Coom & Currie Sports cards
Remember that rush of excitement when you found a special card in a pack as a kid? That nostalgic thrill has evolved into something much more powerful for today's collectors.
What begins as an innocuous purchase—a Tyler Lockett card from Pike Market in Seattle—quickly transforms into a full-fledged obsession that consumes both time and finances. Our hosts share their remarkably similar journeys into the trading card world, despite focusing on different sports: one drawn to NFL cards, the other to football/soccer.
We candidly explore the psychological elements that make card collecting so addictive. From the adrenaline rush of opening packs to the thrill of scoring a rare find online, both hosts acknowledge their struggles with "throttling back" their spending while maintaining their passion for the hobby.
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Hidden Tins and Secret Stashes: What Lengths have you gone to?
The collecting bug has bitten hard, and none of us are immune. This episode dives deep into the psychology behind our card collecting habits with special guest Dom, who confesses to hiding purchases in his cat's house to conceal his growing addiction.
When does collecting cross the line into obsession? We explore the irresistible pull that sends us into stores "just to look" before emerging with armfuls of packs. The psychological rewards of anticipation, discovery, and the thrill of the hunt fuel our hobby in ways we're only beginning to understand.
We tackle the fascinating question of whether grading one-of-one cards makes logical sense. If there's only one version of a card in existence, does its condition rating really matter? This leads to a larger conversation about why we collect - for personal enjoyment, investment potential, or perhaps something deeper about human nature itself.
The episode features a lively discussion about rookie cards across different sports, particularly comparing American drafting systems to European football. What makes a card a true "rookie" in Premier League collections remains surprisingly complex.
Between quizzing each other on Liverpool and West Ham connections and exploring how certain songs become permanently linked with sporting memories, we even manage to squeeze in a live pack opening. Listen for Dom's priceless reaction when he sees what cards fate has dealt him!
Whether you're a seasoned collector or just getting started, this episode offers insights into the psychological forces that drive our hobby. Subscribe, share your thoughts, and let us know what collecting compromises you've made that might rival Dom's cat house stashing strategy!
We're back Podcast Vendors, episode three.
Speaker 2:Podcast Vendors are back.
Speaker 1:We are back. It is sweltering here in England and it's all ticking New Zealand, where you are, Coombs.
Speaker 2:I was just talking to Dom in the green room when I was saying that. He said it's hot, but I said it's bloody freezing there. Although, that said, it's been a bit milder today. A lot of rain though.
Speaker 1:Oh dear. Well, first off, yeah, thanks for all the listens and the subscriptions. It's going strong across all the platforms. So, yeah, thanks for all the feedback, just like last week hearing back from people you've gone to school with, people you used to work with and even people that you know you didn't really know that are into trading cards or that have got the the buzz for it. Exhibit A Mr Dom Locke, who is a special guest this week.
Speaker 2:Welcome, welcome Dom.
Speaker 1:Welcome Dom to the pod for this, this episode. He's case in point. We episode Case in point. We will get on to why Don has joined us on the subject of trading cards. But for now, don is a lifelong friend of ours, my best mate, and we just want to introduce the story after we go through a couple other bits. So, yeah, we'll go into mail day, um, and then we'll go into tom's story about why he's on today.
Speaker 2:so bc um, just just before we go into mail day, I was just actually as we, as you were talking now just looking at the insta. So you were saying last week about how well we're doing. I think there's quite a lot of interaction on the what do you call it? Tiktok.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know how good the numbers are and stuff like that, but we are now on 888 followers on the Instagram, is that?
Speaker 1:right. There's meant to mean something, isn't it? What 888? Yeah, the Instagram. Is that right?
Speaker 2:Is that like a sign that's meant to mean something, isn't it?
Speaker 1:What 888? Yeah, like oh, there Is it yeah it's like like 666, obviously the devil, like 777, it's like luck, isn't it? Or something like that. Is it On what 888?
Speaker 2:Look, but yeah, 888, but the interaction's good as well.
Speaker 2:So, like what we've, what I found is uh, I I think we were saying that in germany, the car market's massive um and uh, I contacted a guy, uh, recently and he started to share some of our stories and stuff like that and then we got a massive spike in in follow. Oh, there it is, he's back. Yeah, like we got a massive spike in followers, so that's that's been really good as well. So, like across, obviously we're this is now the third, the third episode, but across everything we're doing, the interaction, the following and the comments that we've had back. It's been amazing. Um, not something I imagine.
Speaker 1:Three episodes in or two episodes in.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, thanks to everyone for that. It's been really good.
Speaker 1:Good feedback.
Speaker 2:And a lot of people, dom included. We've got guests lined up for next week and then I spoke to I've mentioned him a few times, but Nick with KCC, who I use for breaking. He's potentially going to come on and talk about that side of it, which will be really good as well. So lots of interest, which has been really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's. From what Kiwi Card Collective is he?
Speaker 2:That's it, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the one. Yeah, Lovely.
Speaker 2:And as per last week, I, about half an hour ago, come off another break, of course you have go. Come off another break, of course.
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, got absolutely nothing though there was a from 10 boxes, I just had seahawks. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Can you explain that last week with ben? Because obviously that when you were talking about breaks and you said about cards you don't own, so if you're watching a break, you physically get the cards that they're breaking yeah, so they, so you.
Speaker 2:So basically they'll list, like, what boxes they are. So it might be that differs the quantity, the type of of card it is, but then they list the teams and they list the value. So you buy, you just buy into the break, so like for me generally, I buy seahawks um and then once it's filled, once all the teams are sold, they open it and every Seahawk card that comes out will be my card.
Speaker 3:Oh, I've got you. I thought it was just watching them do it live Nice. That could be a problem for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gambling in its purest form. Yeah, yeah, I think I said on the first pod like I find that when I win nothing I want to go again, and when I get a banger I want to go again. So safest ground is somewhere in the middle. You're not going to find that any time soon.
Speaker 2:No, exactly, yeah, so yeah, that wasn't a good one, um, but mail day, mail day, I've I've had quite a bit actually. So I had a, although a lot of minds revolved around uh, I've put that as a topic on our on our list today. But a lot of minds resolved, revolved around uh, I'll put that as a topic on our on our list today. But a lot of mines revolved around uh, this, this submission I did for grading um, so I got a while ago I was doing a little video for our insta where I was opening the box of phoenix and I was too busy like concentrating on the actual video trying to get that right.
Speaker 2:And as I'm going through the cards I've realized the port of color blast, absolute banger, um, but you can see when you watch the video there's a few seconds delay before I realize what I've actually got in my hand and um, but I was convinced I'd convinced myself. I had a print line in it. So, um, being paranoid, so I sent it off. That prompted me to do a submission, sent six cards off to PCG in Auckland and I've been tracking it for about the last three weeks, I think every hour, just go on for an update, but finally they put the grades on there so you can hide or reveal the grades before you receive them. I did on the video, say that I didn't look, but I did look.
Speaker 1:I couldn't wait. White lies have got to stop and make it. I know.
Speaker 2:Do you know what we should have said at the start of the pod?
Speaker 1:I should have read my statement about my comments regarding the NBA alienating a third of our listeners if you can, if you can address the uh the audience to uh um what you're about to uh say yeah, I can confirm, I, uh, I don't really like basketball.
Speaker 2:It is a true statement, uh. But I I very much respect the the nba card and have a mich Jordan card, as a few boys have. But have you watched that documentary? I think it's on.
Speaker 1:Netflix. I think I was a bit late to the…. Yeah, Golden, isn't it Golden?
Speaker 2:No, the one about Michael Jordan, david Lastone. Yeah, that's it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Unreal yeah.
Speaker 2:I jumped on the cards. After that I was all over it. But that side of it is yeah, but some of these new players and names, I haven't got a clue, but in terms of statement I very much respect it whilst I don't watch it.
Speaker 1:So just to clarify no apology, you respect the game.
Speaker 2:All the best yeah best exactly, yeah, exactly, let's move on, let's move on um but, yeah, got the, finally got the uh, the p, the pcg package. So that's kind of made up my mail day where I wanted to do a video as well, and I've uh bought a couple of them along and I have one for you there and but but yeah, it's been a pretty, a pretty good process.
Speaker 2:Obviously I like, as I said in the video, I like the, the PSA slabs and that, but they I think that's probably the name that most people grade with and listen to but you, even in the States you have to wait so long and over here you're probably waiting a year before you get your cards back, so really opted to go with yeah it's mad yeah, but there's I don't know the ins and outs, but all this stuff with trump and that and the tariffs, I think it costs more as well when you've got to pay.
Speaker 2:I think it's quite a complicated process oh, what so if?
Speaker 1:you were to get them graded in american and sent.
Speaker 2:If you were to send them to american and get them sent back across, yeah, yeah, basically, yeah, then you get over here you've got like middlemen who who do it for you but you're still looking at like the best part of a year just to get your cards back. Um, it's a bit crazy, yeah, but but then I think I said this on the first part when I buy off eBay or from the States, I just buy a graded card anyway because I think well, the postage is expensive but then it would cost you that for grading anyway. So I'll try and buy graded cards if I'm buying them from the States. But this process here with PCG has been awesome. They said like two to four weeks. It took three weeks for them to come back and then, I suppose, in a similar vein to breaks and stuff like that, part of the fun was keep refreshing it to see when the grade actually came up, see what you got. Now I've got a new addiction submitting cards to PCG.
Speaker 1:Sorry. So just clarify what grading is and the sort of process. Why do you do it? Why do you send them off?
Speaker 2:We could do a podcast on that In a nutshell.
Speaker 2:I'm interested in the psychology of it as well. You know, like last week I was talking about how you display or store your cards, and is it, knowing that you've got a particular card, that that is what does it for you? And I still don't know the answer. But I think for me, a similar thing for with grading, because I I don't really know why because I'm quite happy I don't need to have, uh, a particular grade as such, or that's what I tell myself.
Speaker 2:But then, like when I was waiting for the grades to come back on this, you I got a 9.5 on my favorite card and I was absolutely gutted I didn't get a 10. But then, like I'm sitting here telling you that like in reality I'm not that bothered, um, but yeah, like essentially because obviously with us we're talking about our journey and we're fairly new to it. So obviously you've got your experience guys and podcasts and pages where this is quite basic talk. But for me and you, this grading is really like sending it off. You've got a system where ultimately you're looking for 10, so it's out of 10, and they usually do it on like four different sections. You've got like your centering of the image on the card. Then you've got the quality of the surface, the corners and the edges, so they just basically grade it. Ideally looking for a 10 and dating say again dating
Speaker 2:yeah, that's it 100%, but we'll settle for a 9, I'll even take an 8, but yeah, that's basically it and it ends up in a slab like that. But it's also a good way to protect your card. So what I brought along today is that one which is one of my, one of ones which I put on the list because I want to ask a question about that. But this is they did an option where you can just offend to say that the card's authentic but it's a lot cheaper. But the reason I did that is because you then get it obviously professionally slapped. So it's quite cool for protecting the card.
Speaker 2:But I think you would usually do that if, like you know, like you've taken a card along to a show or something and then got like a player to sign the card, just to say that that's a legit autograph. But we'll come on to that again because I want to ask a question about one-of-ones and whether we think it's worth grading them, because essentially it's kind of irrelevant, I think, because it's. If there's only one of that card, does it really matter whether it's a 10 or a 7?
Speaker 1:yeah, we're touching it. We're touching it later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool yeah, I mean that's that's probably not the most, it's not the best uh explanation that's probably ever been given, but it's. It's just a rough idea. But yeah, like what I was saying, we could talk about it for hours. Really like the psychology behind it, because I'm just as happy with some of the cards I've got in like one-touches or top loaders. But I reckon that if you know you've got a card that you're never going to part with, then maybe it's worth, as a minimum, getting it slapped just for the protection. But yeah, that's pretty much my mail day, so talk us through yours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm going to change the name of it to Garage Day because I have nothing in the mail. This week. I have ordered the missing update packs for the match attached collection, which I haven't seen anywhere, so I've had to buy them off ebay. So that's the remaining update packs with star ballers. One of them's called and the other one's called new signings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and once I've got that, that means I've bought all of the like add-on collections. You know, like all the tins, all the update packs, yeah, and then it'll be really a deep dive into this need, need swap sort of website to try and get the the rest of the collection finished. Obviously it's going to be a bit difficult to get some of the more rarer cards in the collection, but I want to just get the base base set done. But, yeah, going back to the garage day, so essentially what happens with me is I'll go into the garage to put something in there, I'll get something out, and then I'll veer to the right corner at the back which is all my stuff and I'll get an inkling into. That box has definitely got some sort of card in or like a sticker album or some football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I do have like some boxes full of you know stuff from your past that you formally, you know, collected in the past yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So I've got. I've got an amazing box of um sort of I guess my sort of rarest stuff that I've got. So I've got like a little gaz coin, little handheld game like a game. I've got um loads of like early, like world cup stuff, the euros, like euro 96, welcome 94. I've got all that sort of stuff in there. And then I know I've got my sticker albums in one of the boxes at the back at the bottom, but I haven't got into that yet. But I did find in one of the boxes a pack of cards in a plastic place. Um, now Waddington's top trumps, um, this is from. They were created in 1992. Um bonus point, for if you know who that player is, I can't really see from. They were created in 1992. Bonus point if you know who that player is.
Speaker 2:I can't really see. When I first looked at it, I thought it was Paul Ince.
Speaker 1:It's England.
Speaker 3:That's Walker, is it Correct?
Speaker 1:Nice, that's a nerdy point for the quiz. So, yeah, yeah, this is from. So essentially, this Top Trumps will be off the back of, I guess well, it looks, italian 90. So you've obviously. Everyone knows the premise of Top Trumps. Right, they've all got sort of, they've all got points on it. So the legend is Sir Gary Lineker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:Up against a few defenders. So you've got all the different countries Ecosse, otherwise known as Scotland, all these different cards of. I mean, look at that Argentina. Bonus point for who that is X Glove Rangers. You're going to have to lower it again can't see his head sorry, there you go no idea. Claudio Canizia. So yeah, these are from like World Cups gone by, so that's quite an old one. I think that might be like I don't know, 86, maybe, 86 maybe, anyway, have you got one from old man B, or whatever his name?
Speaker 2:is that Cameroonian player? 86, maybe. Anyway, I found these. Have you got one from Old man Bean, or whatever his name? Is that Cameroonian player?
Speaker 1:There's a Cameroonian team. He was probably. I don't know if he's in there or not, but that looks 90-90, doesn't it? Yeah. So I mean these are all in like they've obviously barely been played, but they're just. And they've obviously barely been played. But some of the pictures are a bit random, like this Italy one looks a bit you could have picked for a team. You had a squad picture match action. That's a bit random, but I thought they were quite cool.
Speaker 2:To be fair, I like that. Don't get anything in the mail. Go back into the archives if you will treasure troves. Yeah, exactly yeah I don't know we were talking about the subbuteo ones, phil vab no, they are called.
Speaker 1:What were they called? Soccer stars or something something like that? I've definitely got them. I've definitely got them somewhere. So the next mail slash, garage day, new part of the pod I'll bring something else in, but I do obviously have something for next week that I will reveal what I got in. But that's yeah. Not much to report on my end no, that's good.
Speaker 2:I not much to report on my end. No, that's good, under control. Unlike me, I'm still battling with it.
Speaker 1:I'm the locking key boy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I mean even this. I was saying about that break I went into before I started Saturday morning, before I went off to do my ref in. I said to Emma I'm definitely not going to buy into it and she my ref in. I said to Emma I'm definitely not going to buy into it. She said as soon as I got home I sat there, I was on the couch for 10 minutes and she went how have you done with not buying into that break About that?
Speaker 1:First thing I did when I got home. Why are you looking at your phone so long?
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, I was only home for 5-10 minutes. I was thinking about it all day.
Speaker 3:What's the cost of buying?
Speaker 2:it varies, but Seahawks 2024 stuff there wasn't a lot of like decent rookies so they're pretty cheap, to be fair. But, like you, usually there's like a couple of boxes and like some of the top teams are the big rookies. I think $69 you're looking for like like Bears Broncos, so that's probably 40 quid couple of boxes, but like the thing is with them, like you pay that sort of money because, like if you pull a banger then you're you're laughing, but like some of them, some of them expensive things just don't come up, so like people are paying a fortune which I've fortune, yeah, and then you can get absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2:Um, but that's the way it is, isn't it? It's a risk you take, that is. I go with them sometimes, you know, just to get a bit of inventory for trading, a bit of collateral, yeah bit of intent.
Speaker 1:Inventory of inventory. Ten dollars, ten dollars, ten dollars yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:Just a reminder, boys, for later on in the pod. We've got the a little personal break for you, boys. I've got your pack of top class. I've got some bits to send you, mark, in the post, so I will put whatever you get in these in with that and you can give Dom his. Hopefully there's a bit of luck in there. They're top class. Some things you might not be able to get those over there. I don't know if you've seen them on the shelves, but they are a quality card. Very much recommend them.
Speaker 1:I saw them in Morrison's, obviously because that's where. I go to get my cards.
Speaker 2:We're sponsoring the show.
Speaker 1:the amount of times you've mentioned Morrison's, maybe I should have a word with someone and see if I can speak to someone in head office about it.
Speaker 2:Tell them about the pod See if they want to come on.
Speaker 1:Just get one of the checkout. Ladies, come on. He's always in here. He's always in here looking at them, tins.
Speaker 2:Jane from Shoreham.
Speaker 1:I have seen them but I have not purchased them. So very excited to see what you rip for both of us and what we get. Obviously, fingers crossed for Liverpool, my end. But yeah, okay, let's go into Dom's story and I know he's got a question that he wants to ask about rookies. But let's go into Dom's story. I'll pass it over to you, dom, and you can tell the story about. Yeah, I'm not going to touch on it too much, I'll let you explain. I, dom, and you can tell the story about. Yeah, I'm not going to touch on it too much, I'll let you explain.
Speaker 3:I think Ben Huggins last week sort of started off with my Outing me, as it were, because I thought we'd have a relation of over nine or ten pints at a festival, but it came out earlier as to the damage I did when I I mean, I'm an addictive person anyway. Like I'm an addictive person anyway, like I collected everything, whether it's bugs or things inside pin breaks, eating weenie terrapins. Like I was collecting everything McDonald's, toys, stickers, cards, everything I could get my hands on. And obviously, like over the years I mean there was a few years ago where I decided we should.
Speaker 3:It was me, mark and a couple of other lads we were like we should get a football sticker book for the season and I went back and bought the whole box and just complete the whole thing and I had piles of swaps like this that I wanted to talk with. So yeah, when I went down the path, I mean I text Coon this week saying I think I'm going to sack these ones off and just get ready for next season I don't really know what I'm looking for, how it's going to be and then I just found myself walking down the road with two more tins of I hide at work now.
Speaker 3:So I want to hear this story about the tins that you stashed away in the cat thing oh yeah, so we're getting the house ready to have it photographed and this is like six foot cat free. Since my baby was born it's just become a like dumping ground for anything. You just pop something on the basket and if you're not careful it's just burying and dismantling in my way, just sort of slamming it around and suddenly the tin drops out of the middle. I don't really want the cards that much. How did that get there? I don't want the cards that much because they're right how did that get there oh?
Speaker 3:not now. I don't like the, I just like like the. I just, every time I walk by Sainsbury's I'm like yeah, there's a lot that's how it starts popping the Sainsbury's Sainsbury's is.
Speaker 1:Sainsbury's to you is to, morrison's is to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if they don't have the dog with me then I've got to use the opportunity to go into Sainsbury's. If I do have them, I can't go. So it's like a no-brainer really. And I can see them through the window. The little stands like the back of it. I can see the stand peering at me through the glass, but it's a difficult one because I had all the Home Alone cards and the Batman cards when we were kids and stuff. But it was more like you buy a purse and you see what you get. With things you've got a vacant space to tell you what you don't have, whereas the cards you don't have. You don't know what you're after and what you're not. My little question later about the rookie cards is really, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't try Nice one, I'll have to tick an extra box now when I upload the pod. Explicit tick. Sorry, mate, next time you're in Sainsbury's, see if you can get Ethel off the checkouts to come on as well. Representative in Sainsbury's. See if you can get Ethel off the checkouts to come on as well. Representative from Sainsbury's.
Speaker 3:well, I tell you what there's a great, because I go back twice a day. The other day and I think you thought I'd try to nick him first name terms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's tracking you around the store on the camera he's up to change his string and handcuffs. Or things get out of hand, oh wow.
Speaker 1:Nice. So you wanted to know, didn't you want to know about rookies? What's the premise of that?
Speaker 3:The sort of thing really was obviously that, culturally, if you asked me to name the number one golfer in the world, now, I don't care, I couldn't care less. Sorry, I'm into it and it's boring, I don't care, I'm a football person, that's it. But if you asked me who Mickey Mantle was, I could tell you a rough estimate about him just through references in TV. He knows the music, all these things they talk about. But my question really is obviously because, culturally, we know about these things just through American TV. But if you're in a modern day pack, I guess a rookie card, is it just their first card that exists? Yeah, now you've got little rap bands like Bobby Bailey and they've already got, they're already in the kind of special, sort of limited cards and it's it, boy, it's second season. So, yeah, my question is what we're after?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think, um, someone, uh, I might be, I don't think I am, I could be wrong on this, but I think the sports card revolves around rookie, so in NFL, basketball, baseball and that it's basically their first season. So when they're drafted, first season, bang rookie card. But whoever, obviously those players that are drafted quickly, number one, number two, know your early picks. They're usually the what, the cards that are most valuable. But but what's interesting about it is it links into, like you know where you, to me it's a little bit like stocks and shares.
Speaker 2:Like you, you gamble on to a certain extent. Like you know, there's a decent quarterback get his rookie card and you might lump on, you might buy some quite a lot of different cards and stuff like that. But you, you go through periods where, like you can see videos on youtube where people have spent a fortune on, like I think there's some good examples of cj stroud a few years ago, like people lumped on um, is it cj stroud? There's been a few through history where they've lumped on, thinking that they're the next best thing and then obviously they may or may not make it. So it's a gamble. Like, if you look at, say, paddy Mahomes now if he had some of his rookie cards.
Speaker 3:They're now high-valuable cards good value, but everybody knows they might be valuable, because surely everybody keeps them. All the things they tell you in limited edition, the special ones in my head, they're the ones that will be treasured, like you get in yours framed and boxed there, whereas it could be the random one that's a complete base card that everybody discards in 20 years. Yeah, my father used to go off and buy like options and things and stick them in the attic and he put them away. But because they're the limited edition, everybody kept the boxes. They're actually worth nothing, but it's the one that would have held its value.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, but I think there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1:Like tom, you know like people find?
Speaker 2:tom brady cards, don't they? For, like, you can get base Tom Brady cards that are worth a fortune. I think a lot of it revolves around that. But then for me we spoke about this Mark, didn't we? The different reasons why people collect and stuff like that. For me it's a bit of both. I'll pick other teams in the breaks because you want to pull a massive card so you've got value. It might help with trading or something like that where you can sell it and then buy what you want. But, like you know, this is a I like collecting Jackson Smith and Jigba. That's a one of one. But that's for me. That's just a card I'll always keep. So I'll always keep. So it's not so much. That's why I went with that authentication, because to me it's irrelevant. That's a card I don't want to part with. I'm going to keep it and I'm collecting that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, say again. Is that the one of one card?
Speaker 2:That's it. Yeah, yeah, but I've got like a massive Jackson Smith and Chigbert collection. But yeah, he might go on and hopefully touch wood, being a seahawks fan, go and win a super bowl and those cards might go up in value, but I'm not collecting him in this instance because of that. I, you know, I'm just choosing to to do that, whereas this one which got a 10, I'm not. He plays for the bears, um, so he's, I don't. I don't personally collect it, and that card's now worth probably a thousand eleven hundred, possibly twelve hundred dollars, but I can possibly sell that to then get more money for what I want to collect. So I think for me personally, it's about collecting the cards I want and anything that I buy, or or get excited about the value I will use to buy cards I want. So it's not really. I think everything's linked, isn't it like you want? You want more rare cards and stuff like that. That's the question I haven't been able to quite answer is is what drives that?
Speaker 2:because, yeah, to a certain extent I'm saying I want to collect these, these cards for me, but you also, you do want the rare cards and you do want it to be a valuable collection, which is a weird thing because just because I'm saying that I won't part with them. So I don't know psychologically what drives that, but that's kind of where I'm at at the minute with it.
Speaker 3:I'm certainly know psychologically what drives it.
Speaker 2:That's how we yeah, well, that's it. Yeah, you're not. You're not wrong there to be fair, yeah, that's true that's it, that's with.
Speaker 1:I was looking at Stephen Gerrard rookie cards, yeah, and yeah, just from essentially just from the first season he broke through, from when he made his debut yeah, expensive, like hundreds of pounds on ebay um, obviously. But then you also see, what I've seen recently is um, like rookie stickers, so um, messi's like first world cup, and then it'll get graded and it'll be kept and it was sold for however much. It was sold for same for, like that's why I mean yamal.
Speaker 2:So sought after because he's a man at the moment.
Speaker 1:I know he's. He is the breakthrough star, isn't he? Him like, um, make your boy for psg, um, yeah, so that that's sort of if you have a rookie card for like Yamal, that's going to be. He's already propelling himself in his career.
Speaker 2:You know it's going to be worth a decent amount, but on, that though, if you know like right now, say you pulled like a 101 or a Yamal auto, you could go on eBay or other places. And you could go on eBay or other places and you could sell that for a hell of a lot of money, yeah, but let's just say that over the next three years he flops.
Speaker 2:Then you're going to lose, yeah, no one will care. So all of a sudden that just becomes common or like dead cheap, or you can pick them up, and I think that's you know, like with, say, pokemon or something like that. I could be completely wrong. I don't really know what I'm talking about. I'm just trying to apply a certain logic, but it's not like Pikachu is going to turn shit or something like where is that platform? He's pissed someone off or something. He's got injured.
Speaker 2:But with any kind of sport, I guess that's the element. That's the rip, yeah, but I think there's a buzz of that as well, though you know what I mean. It's the same when you buy I don't know if you I used to, but I didn't really know what I was doing but if you dabble with stocks and shares and that you get a little win and you're like buzzing from it, so so I think there's an element of that with the cards as well. The problem is with me. I haven't got the patience to play the long game, so someone offers me a bit of money, like now for a card.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, I'll have that, get another card. But you know, I've got some that I'm going to try and keep hold of, but I just like trading them for so I can get more Seahawks or Jackson Smith and Jigba cards.
Speaker 1:I think I remember watching I think I sent it to you, dom a guy called Neil Bedford. He's a photographer. He takes shoots Kasabian, doesn't he? And Serge Pizzorno quite a lot and like a real cool photographer, and he basically had a box of Premier League 98, I want to say from his garage unopened, from his dad's boxes or collection or whatever, and he spent I don't know how many days, but he opened like a pack a day, videoed it and he was looking for a Beckham. That's all he wanted. He was looking for a Beckham Every morning. Every morning he'd wake up and he was looking for a Beckham.
Speaker 2:That's all he wanted. He was looking for a.
Speaker 1:Beckham. Every morning he'd wake up and he'd be like good morning, sports fans and he'd put a stack of stickers and he'd get all these random ones and he'd be like never heard of this guy. I don't remember him.
Speaker 3:Yeah 45 Beckhams. The build-up was brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, the build-up and the anticipation build-up was brilliant. Yeah, exactly that, the build-up, the anticipation. That's what we spoke about, isn't it? Yeah, you went on, for I mean, then you went on for I don't know how many days, um, but it was really fun to watch him open them and be like. You know the photography and that that stick is terrible, like the collars poor or the collars down or shattering right and it was really fun to watch.
Speaker 1:So I think, did you get him back? He did, yeah, he did. In the end it was like bloody Christmas day in a moment of humanity.
Speaker 3:He did a second box recently. Yeah, he did a second box recently. He did a second box recently. He did a second box recently. He did a about this row opening a box, looking. I don't know if it was Beckham he was looking for again and he was getting all these Bradford players and he's a Bradford fan and it was the one year they were in the Prem, so he was up for it. And then the next morning there was this video and he went oh, I got drunk last night and just opened the whole box and he just pulled.
Speaker 3:Oh, jump on the train and get a beer and I'll open up on the train you said.
Speaker 1:I remember Kumi you saying to me do you remember when I went to Fanatics and I bought that Match Attacks Madness box.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think I hadn't opened it for like two weeks, I know yeah. For me. I was like I want this to be like, I want to take my time with this and open it and see these brand new cards that are only exclusive to London. And, yeah, it was a lovely day when I finally opened that box, but you can't believe how long I had it for and how long I hadn't what demonstration of self-control is?
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 3:I couldn't do it rare you can't change what's inside that box. If you can't open it, it could be yeah it could be.
Speaker 1:yeah, you never know what's in the box, and that's the joy of it.
Speaker 2:That's it. Though the whole time it's sealed, anything could be in there, isn't it? That's it the hope? It's the hope that kills you. It is, it is. Sometimes it's made. I think some people actually collect sealed boxes, don't they? That's a thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, they'll save it until, yeah, I don't know years and years down the line, and then maybe it'll have value.
Speaker 2:Maybe I should do that, because if you don't open it, you don't know. Do you? Yeah, that's Anything.
Speaker 1:I'd be torture, torture. You'd have to lock it away somewhere. You'd never go. I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I definitely couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. You know we've you questioned Dom about Rookie. Oh, he's gone again.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 2:right, he's had enough. He's gone. We can't afford to have him on any longer. Let's get him off. Money's run out. Yeah, no, we had a question about rookie cards. What I don't understand and this potentially sounds stupid is in the Premier League with the Premier League cards, and that I've got a just for those watching a little harvey elliott rookie card you can see the little beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, go on oh yeah, I was gonna say I don't really understand at what point, because you know, obviously in american sports they get drafted, so there's a clear kind of defining point when they're a rookie. But but I'm not sure, because he played for Fulham, didn't he, before he went to Liverpool. So I'm not sure exactly how it works with the Premier League, but you know, lovely card though.
Speaker 3:I think this is to the detriment of the Premier League that we don't have a draft system. The error with the game is then the money that's spent. But obviously, yeah, you're right, that crossover from being college football to the NFL is a big moment and obviously it's a huge event. So, yeah, that is your time. But yeah, harvey, I think he was Did he go back to the Fulham online for a while as well? I don't think he made his Premier League go back to the Fulham on loan for a while as well. So, yeah, I mean, I don't think he made his Premier League debut for Liverpool, so it's not.
Speaker 2:No, it's a bit of a weird one, yeah, yeah that's what they've started to do on the match attacks.
Speaker 1:They've put well on the Chrome ones in the corner, top corner. So you know that that is now a rookie card. So I guess if you go back in time to when, like me, talking about Steven Gerrard rookie card, it doesn't tell me that that's a rookie card, but it is one because that was his debut season.
Speaker 2:That's why.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's good that they now actually highlight it on the card.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I think it's better than they didn't.
Speaker 1:Because it's like you know it's a rookie. Yeah, true.
Speaker 3:Like okay, this one is more value. I'm a traditionalist, I say everything Fair enough, yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I was going to say interesting point because it's, you know, with American sports there's that clear defining moment when they're a rookie. But yeah, I don't know, but maybe it's a process of just falling into line, because I know there's always been very like, as we've been talking about, like different football cards, but like these, these ones now that are like the same. You know, like this, this harvey ellett, one's like mosaic and obviously that's like synonymous with like n NFL and basketball and stuff like that. So maybe where they're just trying to come into line with those, but it's, I guess, driven by money, isn't it? Yeah, and stuff like that, get the rookie card on there, more money spent, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Bunsen burner.
Speaker 1:We're going to move on to what you were talking about earlier. So grading a one of one is it worth it?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's the so, again reiterating that we're obviously still fairly new. I started pretty much in january, similar science yourself, dom, even newer um. I've only got one, one of one um. But here's another question, actually Slight change of subject, but in a similar. Even with your numbered cards, right, say, you've got like a card number 100 out of 300. Technically you're going to have to bear with me here, is that not a one-of-one?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because there's only one, 100 out of 300 so oh god, I'm clutching, but number 300 or 300 will probably work more than number 17 there you go.
Speaker 2:What, what done for you as well. If you get a, say, you've got a number like a number card, so it's like 33 or something, and you've got a one, so one of 33 or 33 out of 33 bookend, that's what they call.
Speaker 3:It adds more value did that, yeah, so I was speculating that it probably would be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they look for all all sorts like colour matches as well. If you've got the inserts the same colour as the kit, that's a colour match. Or if the card's numbered the same number as the shirt the player's wearing, as well, that's all. These sort of things are what people look for, have they ever?
Speaker 3:I mean, the Holy Grail must be a misprint. Oh, they love a mis there.
Speaker 2:I mean, the Holy Grail must be a misprint. Ah, they love a misprint. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Something that's upside down or something that would be like tangent-wise. But if you guys are into the boobies, it's like the coins, though, isn't it? You know, like when they get.
Speaker 2:People love an error.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's worth millions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I see a thing on Insta the other day or whatever it is, on TikTok or Snapchat or Twitter, whatever it is, where someone was opening some NBA cards and they just slipped in a. There was an NFL card in there but it was a massive thing, massive carry-on about it, just saying how weird that was. But I wonder if that particular card now is worth something. Because it was an error, it's essentially in the wrong pack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know if that's a, thing, but I suppose it's that sense of it's like now it's out, it's ruined. Inside, there it's gold, but outside it's opened now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, gold, but outside it's, it's opened now. Yeah, that's true, um, but, yeah, like. So, going back to the one of one, um, my theory again, as a novice, you probably get people listen to this who have been in the, you know, collecting for years, who this is probably old hat in terms of conversation, but we're learning as we go. But I don't see if you've got a one of one and I'm stating the bleeding obvious here but that's the only one of that version of the card. So it to me it's almost irrelevant what grade it is, because obviously if you say you like a, you know a particular car, like a downtown or kaboom or something like that, and you want that in your collection, they're not, they might not be numbered, for example, but you want the nicest example of it if you're going to put it in your PC. I guess ultimately that's what it's about. But with a one-of-one, if it's the only version of it and it's graded 7, graded 10, it doesn't matter because you can't get another version, that is their version.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of what I wanted to put out there, graded 7, graded 10, it doesn't matter, because you can't get another version, that is the other version. So that's kind of what I wanted to put out there and see what you thought I mean even folded in half.
Speaker 3:it's still the only one.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:But it's still the only one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think, in my opinion it would be. It would only be you only get graded to add value to it, right? How good condition is it if it's mint condition and it's slabbed and it's a 1-1? It would only like accentuate what it is. Obviously it is 1-1, that's it. That is the only card. But I guess getting it graded and slab would make it even for me that presentation wise, it would be, yeah, superior I guess I suppose the yeah, yeah, like the angle you've come out, actually is a fair point.
Speaker 2:Because, say, you had a budget of x amount of pounds, dollars, shekels, whatever, um, you were the, you might go, I might buy that one or one, or I might buy that one or one. So in the scenario you might say, oh, what's the better condition? One or what? Where am I going to get most value in terms of my money? So maybe in terms of a sale, yeah, but from the angle of you're going to let's assume you're going to put it into your, your pc, I mean, that's why I've gone for, just just to have it slapped, rather than because for me I'm not gonna. Well, he says that if I get a good offer, thanks, all offers, welcome. Yeah, you can find. You can find the email in the link when you get your little box out yeah, oh no, it's not a podcast.
Speaker 2:No, uh, not the minute anyway, um, I get desperate. But you, uh, but yeah, like, for me that's staying in my pc, so like, I think from that point of view I'm happy with that decision. But yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, if you, if someone's got like a budget and they're looking where they're going to place that money, I guess then it becomes a bit more important, I suppose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, yeah, that was a short conversation well, sometimes conversations will be short, sometimes they'll be a bit longer, not a problem um, okay, we've got really anywhere.
Speaker 2:Any other angles to go with it, though? Is there like that?
Speaker 3:that really is it I think that's been so, isn't it is? If you get it, if you get it graded, you're telling the world this is where it is, I've got it. Yeah, it's been. If the house burns down, it's slightly better than it would be, so it's all right because I've got mine in a bloody bomb-proof box, so I'll be right waterproof, fireproof, like they've got a, got a combination, so that briefcase is it chief no, it's got a slot for it.
Speaker 2:It's got. I'll put an air tag in it though here he is yes you leave it at the airport or something. Oh Jack.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:The amount of bloody cards I'll be bringing back when I come over in.
Speaker 3:November.
Speaker 2:I'll need to check a separate bag in 23 kilos.
Speaker 3:Not like that, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:A weekend in Germany? Yeah, Check the cards. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's that, let's move on. Yeah, right, we're going to move into the quiz. So, right, I have got. Let me know if I need to go into my notes, but let me know if, um, if I disappear you've got, can you still? Can you still hear me though?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, we can all right, I might have to do it this way because there's a list um, so, um, I would like, so I'm going to ask the questions um, dom, your buzzer is irons. Uh, coom, your buzzer is reds. So shout out that as soon as you think you've got an answer to the question, not now. Okay. So I want you to name me five players to play for both Liverpool and West Ham Irons, irons, okay, don, let me just get my list up.
Speaker 2:I've got a bloody mind though.
Speaker 1:Don go for it, Paul Ince, paul Ince.
Speaker 3:Lachlan Beningham. Yes yes, we had. I just had one in my head then Javier Mascherano Yep, jeez Narva et al All there. Yep, oh jeez Narvetawal there, I've come too soon. Philbub, craig Bellamy, craig Bellamy.
Speaker 1:Say again Bellamy Craig, bellamy correct.
Speaker 3:One more.
Speaker 1:One more.
Speaker 3:I feel like we sold you one recently, one more, one more, one more.
Speaker 2:I feel like we sold you one recently, jarrett Bowen soon probably, but that'd be nice er ping me not in this one back out oh, I couldn't be in it if I wanted to like mind blank.
Speaker 3:Oh no, yossi was a good one. Yeah, I don't want to sit in silence for ten minutes on your podcast, so I'll have to bow out of that one. I can't think.
Speaker 1:Right, ok, well, coombe, I'll pass it over to you, but you've got to name five different players.
Speaker 2:Oh well, then let's move on.
Speaker 1:Really Go on Right. The point will go to Dom. You could have had Andy Carroll, joe Cole, stuart Downing.
Speaker 2:Danny.
Speaker 1:Ings. David James, glenn Johnson, Paul Konczewski, neil Mellor, neil Ruddock.
Speaker 3:Yeah, neil Ruddock, julian.
Speaker 1:Dix, Julian Dix, I was going to say to you who's your favourite player, don, my favourite player of all time. I will give the point to Don, as he named, four.
Speaker 2:It's the second time today that Julian Dix has been mentioned. I was talking to someone earlier because I was talking about when I pulled my calf when I was refereeing. I said the problem is I don't always warm up. I said, like Julian Dix, I just have a can of Coke and go straight out there. A cabana of Christ.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what a hero, oh, Dixie.
Speaker 1:All right, move on to the next question. One nil to Dom. Okay, the next one is okay. Okay, the next one is okay. How many times? So? This is obviously based around Liverpool and West Ham, due to who you both support football wise. Yeah, how many cup, finals, league and FA Cup have Liverpool and West Ham met in words? Uh, yeah, bonus points if you can name the years that's, that's buggered, it up because I was going to say one. Well, how many?
Speaker 2:first of all, I was going to say one, I was thinking the probably sore point. But when Gerrard got that goal, otherwise known as the Gerrard Cup Final. Yeah, what a bloody year, though 2006,. That was correct, yeah so the actual Dom.
Speaker 1:Do you want to chime in?
Speaker 3:there's been more than one been more than one has there yeah. I don't think it's many, but I couldn't name you any other years okay, so there's been two.
Speaker 1:The other one was a League Cup final in 1981, where Liverpool came out victorious. Two won victors with goals from Kenny Douglas and Alan Hansen. Nice, so I'll give you the point Coombe One, all for the one-coach final I'll take it. Give you the point, coom 1-0 for the one cup final. So that leads me very much onto the next question from the previous in the 2006 FA Cup final. What minute did Steven Gerrard score the equalising goal to make it 3-0?
Speaker 3:we'll be doing the closest here or we'll do closest it's got to be, isn't it? Yeah, I'd go 87th.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I'm going to go. What I was going to say, I was going to say 89th it's the 91st minute yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 1:BC 2-1, just go. Stuart Downing played for both teams running down the wing. I'll take it BC 2-1. Just go. Stuart Downing played for both teams running down the wing. Who did he play more for, west Ham or Liverpool Irons?
Speaker 2:BC.
Speaker 1:Reds Split down the middle. Love to see it. So Stuart Downham made 74 appearances for one club and 73 appearances for the other club. The team he played for 74 times was West Ham United too old.
Speaker 2:That is a shame that wasn't my answer.
Speaker 3:That was just me buzzing in, but I'll take the point. Well, that's what I thought yeah. It's just taking that word for it Controversial now go reds.
Speaker 1:Final question um, this is card related. Now, yeah, it's probably a bit of a guessing game, because I obviously looked it up and I got the question from this. But who is? Um? So I typed into google the rarest liverpool trading card, um, so that question will go to you, coon, and I put in the rarest west ham trading card. I want you to tell me which player came up and then up for the second point. I want to tell me how much you reckon that cost, and I will give you a point if it is close rarest out of both of them, or rarest each.
Speaker 1:I'll go. You go West Ham, dom and Cream, you go Liverpool, bobby.
Speaker 3:Moore, it's got to be unfortunately not.
Speaker 1:No, I'll give you another guess, more recent. What's? What's been the most? What's been the most? What's been the best West Ham moment in the last? I don't know it's.
Speaker 2:Jarrod Bowen. Jarrod Bowen isn't it it's got to be didn't ask you didn't ask you yeah, it is Jarrod Bowen's point to you.
Speaker 3:Dom bonus point this has gone awfully wrong, yeah this quiz has gone downhill, but if you can hazard me a guess, and if you're one for the new.
Speaker 1:How much do you think so Jared Bowen, conference league winner one of one. How much do you think so Jared Bowman, conference League winner One of one. How much? One of one? How much do you think that's worth In?
Speaker 3:Thousands. I can tell you, to the penny, what that's worth. It's priceless. It is priceless. I'll say a thousand pounds. How much? A thousand Eight thousand pounds. I was going to say that. I'll say £1,000. How much £1,000 £8,000.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that. Thanks for asking Point to you, keane.
Speaker 1:No right, keane, your turn.
Speaker 2:Phil Bab.
Speaker 1:Correct An auto Phil Bab from 1995, is that serious? No, no, no. An auto Phil Bab from 1995, is that serious?
Speaker 2:no, no, no that would be bizarre, wouldn't it? Phil Bab? I will go with Kenny Dalglish incorrect.
Speaker 1:it is Mo Salah, one of one as well, from a few years back. But can you tell me how much that cost to the thousands? So in increments of one time, 11,000.
Speaker 2:That's 10,000. Oh, do we have points for being close?
Speaker 1:You don't. And Dom won because you gave the point to Jared Bowen, so well done.
Speaker 3:Dom, I didn't answer two questions, but I got two points. That's good.
Speaker 2:Congratulations.
Speaker 1:I had good intentions that quiz, but it went a bit off the rails, so my apologies.
Speaker 2:Can we get your face?
Speaker 1:back.
Speaker 2:Sorry, can we get your face back now, or there he we get your face back now, or there he is.
Speaker 1:Thank you for participating in my.
Speaker 3:That was good state of the quiz, but I enjoyed researching it all yeah, I'm intrigued to see if those cards are actually the most valuable in another 10 years or just because they're desirable now. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:That's what we're talking about. I love that. In another 10 years or just because?
Speaker 1:they're desirable. Now, there you go. That's what we're talking about. Love that.
Speaker 2:It's the name of the game. Yeah, Is that a nice segue into the next section?
Speaker 1:as I say yeah, that is a nice segue. Is your favourite word, King? Yeah, into the playlist and what's been happening with that?
Speaker 2:recently. Uh well, we're still mid-july, so nothing really. Um, yeah, oh, so we're sorry um music. My apologies yeah, I wanted to ask a question. I said this today to some guys over here in nz. Uh, in NZ, I think I'm getting we're getting really old, obviously, but match of the day, right? You must remember when it went to ITV the premiership, yeah it was awful, awful.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, that goes without saying, but the theme tune was Beautiful Day, wasn't it? You too? When I hear that, I think of football, and I was talking to someone about it today and they have no recollection or anything of it. So it's got me thinking. Songs that, obviously with you both being passionate about music, and that songs that you associate to sport, yeah, Off the back of you saying you too, uh, beautiful day.
Speaker 1:Um, that would have been 2001. The reason I know that is because when that happened, I went to gran canaria with my family and I bought two cds for my compact disc player, for the plane, yeah, um. One was rush hour two, soundtrack classic. Yeah. The other was um, was u2's album and lemons will kill me for not knowing the name of it, but the one that's got beautiful day on it, yeah, um and yeah that always. Yeah, exactly the same as you. That always reminds me of the premiership, yeah um, yeah it'sout Obviously.
Speaker 1:you hear it every week, right when you watch it, or however long the Premiership was on for Other songs.
Speaker 1:I always have the Style Council shout to the top because it used to be on a Rangers video as a kid, a montage of goals of Ali McCoy's Mark Hately and me and my brother Scott will always, whenever we hear that because it does get played here and there, it's a classic song from the style council, who Paul Weller was in um will always take us back to watching nine in a row. Uh, like a 80s, 90s video.
Speaker 3:I think the most synonymous music, sport song, which is a sport. Another sport I absolutely cannot stand, which is people driving cars around the track. Oh yeah, yeah, and you hear Fleetwood.
Speaker 2:Mac.
Speaker 3:It's just one song, you know, and I remember when I got into Fleetwood Mac quite young because I was looking for bands that might, desperately looking for bands to make me look cooler than I was, so I was like freaking them out and I was like going through them. I was like that's a bit weird. They've ripped off the old uh formula one theme tune here, but it's like it's a song like beautiful day that you don't associate with music. Yeah, but you can think about the lightning seeds and cock Cockney Rebels and the Anfield Rap and Come On, you Reds by man United, which was just diabolical. But then when you think of the songs that actually the sport's sort of taken them over a bit. Really. It's that Rage Against the Machine on the Tony Hawk Pro Skater Games. It's always like it's what got me into. Rage Against the Machine was that computer game rather than the other way around.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's the theme for the next playlist songs in sport yeah just don't put come on your reds on there not happening, not on our watch. Do you remember? Pass a move. It's a Liverpool groove. Of course I do.
Speaker 3:Of course I don't know why I'm singing that it's an absolute belter, that is, do you know. What's tricky, though, is when football adopts songs that are good, and you hear it a couple of times, but I was in Portugal a few weeks ago and we're sat on the beach on a lounger when you're like, right, we probably got an hour here until the kid kicks off, and then you can just hear a load of bleep singing sweet caroline and all this stuff used to be good, and then suddenly after about 20 minutes of these drunk sort of bold, white, 60 year old cabbies singing.
Speaker 3:then they start bubbles and I was like, oh, of course they're west ham fans. They're like they've ruined my day. Of course they're West Ham fans, of course They've ruined my day down here and they're just going to West Ham. It's a tough bridge we're on here, but they can just ruin it. If I hear Sweet Caroline now I'm like, oh God, let's leave this bar and go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm the same with that song. It was a song in boxing quite a lot, but it seems to have moved to all the other sports now.
Speaker 3:It's a bit of a weird one and you never want to know. This is the obvious one, isn't it? It's the most powerful song in music in football really. It's Borussia Dortmund, as, but they're talking about tributes to Diego Iota with singing it when Wolves are playing Liverpool next season, and you just think it's going to be monumental, really, because it's that song we associate with Liverpool in this country, but just globally, it's a football song.
Speaker 2:I went to. I remember the year it was, but do you remember when Lovren got that late win against Dortmund, martin? It was the year we got them to the Europa League final, but we lost to Sevilla. Yes, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that semi-final.
Speaker 2:I went to that with Sonny. I think that was voted one of the games of the season, but obviously, with Dortmund singing You'll Never Walk Alone as well, it was strange because they played the first part of it and then the music stopped and both teams were singing You'll Never Walk Alone. It was probably one of the best things I've ever experienced.
Speaker 3:Mad yeah that was good. Me and Mark would watch that in that pub in Fulham, didn't we? We watched that whole campaign in that pub. It was brilliant.
Speaker 1:We did. Yeah, we both lived in London and we were. I can't remember the name of it, what was it called?
Speaker 3:Something like that, yeah.
Speaker 1:Something like that. Yeah, we watched near enough every game in there, didn't we the?
Speaker 3:whole thing. Yeah, it was wild, really good.
Speaker 2:Bloody belt for the game that.
Speaker 1:I've got a scar on my back from that game. I think when Lovren scored we all bundled each other and someone had their keys out because they were going home. Cut on my back.
Speaker 3:Got a scar on my back.
Speaker 2:Couple of Dortmund fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, I bleed Liverpool.
Speaker 2:Right, I think it's time boys. Yeah, rip them up. Rip them out which you Don't measure the guest Left, right, left, he's going for left Stage left. I'm going to keep this on camera, so there's no allegations. Nice card, eight cards Eight cards.
Speaker 1:Let's have a look. Eight cards Lovely. Is there any guaranteed cards in there?
Speaker 2:on the pack does it say no, you've got 135 base in the set, 135 special. You've got electrics max power winner impact hero board.
Speaker 3:Right here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2:You've got an Alex Moreno Not in the forest. You've got a future star. That's not a bad one, actually, that Lewis Miley. He's highly rated, isn't he? You've got a Harrison from Everton. This is not a good pack, is it? Oh no, you've got Gordon.
Speaker 1:It's not as nice.
Speaker 2:They're lovely cards though.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's getting worse.
Speaker 2:Hold on. It's Cunha, isn't it? I think no, you've got Lamina and Gomez. It's going really downhill here. I don't even know who that is. We've got a keen Lewis Potter. I'll tell you what. You've got a belter on the end. But this is Now talking about trades. This is one that MC's going to like. He's our number one. That's an absolute belter there will be.
Speaker 1:Let's see what.
Speaker 2:MC gets. I'm sorry about that, dom. That is an anti-climax. That is disappointing, right, mc? Right, here we go, go on keep it above board, keep it up there. Oh no, it's not a good start, although you've got Sepp Vandenberg. The ex-Liverpool man. Yeah, I'll put that in your pile. Thank you, you've got a Murillo.
Speaker 1:Decent defender.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you who would have liked this card. He's going to be gutted. Ben Huggins, our previous guest, look at that.
Speaker 1:Oh, that is a beauty, mateo Moran. Who's that I can't see?
Speaker 2:It's that, hinshaw isn't. It. He's on fire, that boy isn't he Very good. Save that. That's a lovely card actually. Nice, lovely cards.
Speaker 1:Is he going to United? Who knows?
Speaker 2:Max, oh, no, inanna.
Speaker 1:Oh God, excellent, Great these are not.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we go, here we go. No, not him Next one.
Speaker 3:Is that? Will Hughes there? No, get excited for Will Hughes.
Speaker 2:Here we go. There he is. That's a West Ham player, somerville.
Speaker 3:Do you have Swapdon, swap your father Get on the pitch, but unfortunately Graham Potter's a complete melt so he's not going to play him.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who this geezer is. Oh look, dango, who is. Oh yeah, bournemouth striker, yeah. Who is? Oh yeah, bournemouth striker, yeah. So that feature was a massive flop you got many Leeds mates Coon what for who?
Speaker 3:Somerville. Well yeah, friends, leeds fans, you lived up there. Yeah yeah, did you ever go to the games up there?
Speaker 2:yeah, but mainly when Brighton were up to be fair.
Speaker 3:Oh God, I bought a.
Speaker 2:Huddersfield season ticket, just so I could avoid them. I've done it again. I've alienated a section of the listeners. Every week there's statement next week won't there? I did not mean to say that I do not care. Yeah, you know I don't like Leeds and I'm not bothered about saying that. So if you are a Leeds fan, I feel sorry for you.
Speaker 1:What a great way to end the episode.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, what have we got on the list? See you next week, right?
Speaker 1:What's the last up? Thanks for listening, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:Don appreciate it, appreciate your time that's been good and we'll I think we'll have you back on definitely follow the journey yeah, I, it's similar to us as well, isn't it? So you're, you're hooked, absolutely hooked ruined thinker yeah, it is a slippery slope, and you, you and you, you've already uh proved that uh, stashing cards in the cat's house, that's, that's a new one that's a new one.
Speaker 1:that'll be be the new one Stashing cards in the cat house. There you go done.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a feature, isn't it? Asking every guest you know what levels are they stooped?
Speaker 3:to to conceal purchases. I think the worst thing I've done is I don't know if I should say this, but like when Mark sent me the link about Diego Yotta, I read one paragraph of it, exited the Daily Mail app and went straight onto eBay to see if I could buy some Yotta cards. And you're like that's cold, isn't it? But it was like that's where my head went and it's just like what a moment.
Speaker 2:Oh, no Question my upbringing at the moment. They did not mean to cause offence, but that is the reality, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It's statement after statement next week. Yeah, yeah, but that is true. I went to a card shop in Wellington the other day and I was chatting to this guy and he just put in some extra cards in like the cheap boxes, you know, like base cards and that, and he says I've got all these Liverpool cards and just came up conversation. I said I'll have a look through them. And as I'm going through them he went I've got no Jota cards. He says literally like you, a couple of days after a guy comes in and absolutely cleans him out of Jota cards. But I suppose for people who are trying to make a buck or two, that's the sort Prices, isn't it?
Speaker 3:It's sad, but it is what spikes things.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to. Obviously it's night over here, but Liverpool play in Preston, aren't they? So I think Liverpool have got a tribute plan. That'll be interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 3pm live on ITV1. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I heard that. That's pretty rad, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll take it. Either that or trawling through the realms of an Amazon Firestick.
Speaker 2:I won't talk anymore about oh, now big statement next week. Oh no, oh no down with Sky, yeah and you've got your TV licence and all that everything's above board.
Speaker 1:Obviously, of course, guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No yeah, and you've got your TV license and all that. Everything's above board, obviously, of course, TV license.
Speaker 1:What's that? I've heard of it, oh no.
Speaker 3:On that bombshell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see you next week. Love to the families.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Regards to your family, mark, regards to your family, regards to your families, all the best.
Speaker 2:Dom, thanks for coming on, cheers boys been a pleasure have fun.
Speaker 1:Cheers pal, cheers boys.
