Hulkamania Meets Helmet Collecting: We chat to Nik From Kiwi Card Collective.

The collecting bug strikes again! This time, we've got Nik from KiwiCard Collective joining us to pull back the curtain on what makes card collecting such a captivating hobby for people of all backgrounds. From those who display their treasures proudly in glass cabinets to those who squirrel them away in storage boxes, we explore the fascinating psychology behind our collecting habits.

Nik shares the origin story of KiwiCard Collective, now approaching its fifth anniversary with nearly 1,700 members. What started as a small breaking operation has blossomed into a thriving community that brings together collectors from across New Zealand. His journey reveals how the social aspects of collecting—meeting fellow enthusiasts, sharing in the excitement of big pulls, and hand-delivering cards to ecstatic collectors—often become just as meaningful as the cards themselves.

The conversation takes a delightful turn when one of our hosts describes how his initially skeptical wife transformed into an eager collector after helping their daughter organize Disney Lorcana cards by rarity. This perfectly illustrates how the collecting spark can ignite unexpectedly, spreading from individual passion to family activity in an instant. We also discuss the fine line between healthy enthusiasm and potential addiction, with Nik offering insights on maintaining reasonable boundaries while still embracing the thrill of the chase.

Storage solutions spark particularly animated discussion, as Nik showcases his impressive display cabinet featuring signed mini helmets with personalized inscriptions like "Aotearoa Broncos Country" and his pride and joy—a John Elway signed helmet. The eternal question emerges: do cards bring more joy when admired daily on display or when rediscovered in storage boxes? For many collectors, the ultimate dream remains a dedicated space where their treasures can shine.

Whether you're a seasoned collector chasing rainbow parallels, a breaking enthusiast looking for community, or simply curious about what drives people to collect, this episode offers a thoughtful exploration of the hobby that continues to capture hearts and wallets alike. Join us for laughs, insights, and even an impromptu Phoenix Megabox break that showcases the unpredictable excitement that keeps us coming back for more.

Check out KiwiCard Collective on social media for upcoming breaks and join our community as we continue to share our collecting journeys.

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Milestone Celebrations
• 10:36 Mail Day Discussions
• 26:55 Spotlight on KiwiCard Collective
• 43:38 Card Storage & Display Solutions
• 54:05 Collecting Addiction & Community
• 1:08:16 Phoenix Megabox Break
• 1:17:57 Quiz Time & Wrap-Up

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

welcome to Coombe Currie trading cards podcast, where collecting meets the game. Welcome back. Podcast vendors. Episode five hit the five mark. Um, yeah, here we go, we'll. Um, we've got another special guest that we'll we'll get on onto in a little bit, but we'll start with an update on the numbers now. I'll start because, um, I think we we need to announce a milestone, um, from the instagram side, tiktok. I um have, um, I don't know if you've looked bc, but I've been doing quite a bit of networking this week, um, so, yeah, just looking at, like um, other users and seeing what they collect and their breaks and all that, so started following quite a lot more more channels, um, whereas I've sort of just been focusing on posting content and whatnot. So we're actually on 399 followers, um, and we've followed some really good, some really good ideas from some users on there. So, um, yeah, really positive on on the tiktok side, really enjoying it.

Speaker 3: 1:09

Um, but, yeah, let's hand over to you to let us know what milestone we've hit yeah, I think I think you know on the tiktok what I found, because obviously I don't, I don't do, I've literally I follow one account and that's our account. Yeah, that took me a while to uh to sign up for, but what I found looking through, um, our pages, is like more interaction. So we got higher numbers on the instagram, but the actual instant sort of into sort of interaction is a bit, is a bit lower, but we have hit the a thousand followers I think. I think when I looked today we were on 1,019 followers, which is quite a lot.

Speaker 3: 1:51

Yeah, it's amazing, really, think about it, trying to mix up the content as well, rather than just put a load of pictures of what cards we're getting and stuff like that. So that's been quite good. But at the start it was looking for other accounts, following those and getting some follow backs. But, um, I'm trying to work out the sweet spots, trying to work out the algorithm, because sometimes I wake up and I've got like 30 new followers, um. But I got to a point the other day when I was tracking the, the 1k, where we got, uh, we went up to 1006. And then I went in the other room to tell emma about it and I think we had, we had a chat, half an hour later checked and I'd lost three followers.

Speaker 1: 2:34

I've never done anything yeah, that's awesome start, though it's only been a couple of months yeah, yeah yeah I mean, yeah, obviously, like um, the, the way that we sort of work is that you've been doing the majority of the instagram because it's just working, it's just growing and growing and growing, so, like, a lot of your content is is just hitting the mark at the moment, yeah, so, yeah long may it continue, because, yeah, thousand followers over a short amount of time is not to be uh overlooked, is it yeah, it's interesting as well, um, because we don't.

Speaker 3: 3:07

I think we spoke about this on one of the other podcasts, but I don't really know sort of where we want to go with it and stuff like that. So it's just like you know, one of the reasons we've asked you to come on nick is, um, you know, like we've come at the whole thing like as the novices we are, and and what's interesting is that we've mentioned about how many people a lot of our friends and how many sort of closet collectors there are, people that have come out of the woodwork, and that's the right thing to say. But even with the Instagram and stuff like that, it's just, I suppose, to a certain degree, we don't know what we're doing, so we're just learning as we go, which is why I think it's quite interesting.

Speaker 2: 3:48

It's all part of the journey, though, eh, I think you know, building an audience and everyone getting to see your experience yeah, that's kind of what makes it unique to you guys and yeah, it takes a little bit of time.

Speaker 2: 4:01

You know you find your feet, you find your brand and, um, it'll just continue to build. Just you know all about the effort that you put in. Um and, yeah, just be watching, like watching the last few months and obviously really being involved with kcc, um, yeah, it's just been just been awesome to see it kick off and start growing yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1: 4:20

Yeah, so yeah, thank you so much um for nick for coming on today. Nick is from kiwi card collective um in new zealand. Um, we'll get on to um sort of more of a spotlight on him um and asking him some questions about um what he does, why he does it um in a little bit um.

Speaker 3: 4:38

But yeah, let's jump into mail day, should we dc yeah, I've got got a quick story for you though, right. So on, on the theme of what we're just talking about, with um sort of our journey and stuff like that, I've been listening, uh, because I went up to for our New Zealand listeners, uh, wanganui um on Saturday. So I listened to a lot of other podcasts just for ideas and to see, and most of the ones I listened to are like American ones. So you've obviously got like real established, um knowledgeable people, and then you at the other end of the spectrum, you've got us who don't really know what we're doing, we're just learning and stuff like that um. But what's really cool for us is, like I said, it's the people that have contacted us saying like, like we had uh, lemme on last week, he's got his 1977 star wars cards, um, so that's like really cool to see. But some my wife, emma, she's been, I suppose I don't know what the word is, but quite supportive, but there's a lot of eye rolling that goes on and things like that possibly don't relate to like what that buzz is. You know like chasing the cards and things like that.

Speaker 3: 5:42

But a little revelation, little revelation in our house the other day I've been buying the little ones, those Locana cards, like Disney cards, and she's got a massive collection of them but they just go into a box. And the other night I was in I've been to there's a new sports card shop in lower Hutt called Top Play Sports Cards. I'm definitely in there too much, but he started saving me like bundles of cards for her. And then in his counter he had the I'll show you. Actually he had this Rapunzel card and it was like $40. And I was like, well, I've been buying these cards and I said what makes that a $40 card? Because I know nothing about it and it's to do with this little logo that sort of dictates the rarity of the card. So I came home, did a little bit of research and then I printed off all the different icons and put them on my little girl's box and she sorted all her cards by the logo and we realized we had some pretty decent cards.

Speaker 3: 6:47

And then I think it was yesterday night, I'd come back from refereeing and my wife's flicking through her phone what are you looking at there? She's only researching, like these $200 boxes of LaCarna cards like that. She's hell bent on getting one of these enchanted cards or something, and I was. I couldn't stop laughing. I was saying all the eye-rolling and grief you've been giving me, and what's funny, though, is that when we talk about what makes people tick, how they store their cards, how they acquire their cards I genuinely believe it was when we sorted them into rarity piles that sort of piques the interest. You search through the cards to see what you've got, and as soon as you get excited because actually you've got some of these sort of rarer cards all of a sudden we're looking at how we can get our next lot Disney's got that little bit of magic as well.

Speaker 2: 7:41

Yeah, which kind of, I guess, going back to your youth, um sort of thing, um, but awesome to have a family involved. You know, yeah, my daughter used to jump on, help out with breaks and um, and got quite involved in the early days.

Speaker 2: 7:55

She's obviously a teenager now, so not quite so much, but yeah, I think I got her like an ev it was her favorite character and a PSA 10, which she took to school to show, and she came home buzzing about it. All the boys are like she's got a PSA 10,. You know, she was really excited about it and that still sits. I've actually got it out today and, yeah, it still sits here with my cards. Hopefully once she gets past these first few teenage years she comes back to it.

Speaker 3: 8:27

Yeah, do you collect both of them as well, nick.

Speaker 2: 8:32

I've got a few there. It's kind of more just a fun rip. We don't have any sports card shops in Hamilton, oh yeah, but there's plenty of TCG around, you know, so you can cruise in town and go and pass a card merchant or grab a pack, have a bit of a sneaky car rip and carry on I was when I was in the shop the other day.

Speaker 3: 8:51

I was looking at um, because the disney, the tops chrome disney car is quite expensive. Um, but someone had given us a load as well and the girls quite liked him. They're like kind of all silver. And then they got the characters on. And I'm chatting to the guy in there and I'm looking at the box and the cogs are turning. I'm like should I buy it? And then he says I'll look at a youtube video, see what's in there. I'm looking at it and all of a sudden I had a bit of a realization like don't do it. Don't do it because it's.

Speaker 3: 9:16

It's a slippery slope you just start. Yeah, I mean like, like we said, the first podcast, the first one just started with that one card in seattle and I still don't know what triggered it. And now, all of a sudden, I'm looking at, uh, disney cards and all sorts um yeah, the tops, tops boxes have got the super fractors.

Speaker 2: 9:35

Yeah, yeah, if you get a chance to do a bit of research on what the mickey mouse and minnie mouse sold for crazy, crazy value in them.

Speaker 3: 9:44

yeah, one thing I can't get my head around, though, is I've seen some videos where they've got autos on and that I'm not sure who actually signs them.

Speaker 1: 9:53

I've seen some of them as well. Is it the actor or actresses that are inside the costumes, or what's the or?

Speaker 2: 10:00

where do we? I know some of the Marvel cards. You get that. You get the actors signing them, yeah, but yeah, I'm not so sure on Disney.

Speaker 3: 10:08

Yeah, maybe the voiceover people.

Speaker 1: 10:12

Yeah, yeah, probably right yeah.

Speaker 3: 10:15

Mail day, then Mail day is slowing up for me now. So as I sort of establish more of an idea of what I want to do and what I want to collect and I guess how I'm getting them, it is slowing down. I've said since January I've had a constant stream on eBay the stuff that I've bought from America, where obviously it takes a while and it's coming to an end. I think I've got two or three things left to come on eBay, so it's a little bit of a slower stream, but I'm not sure if I got confused as to when I got it. But I actually spoke to you, nick, didn't I? About the Dream Weavers.

Speaker 2: 10:52

Yeah, yeah, the Phoenix first off the line this year.

Speaker 3: 10:57

Yeah, because I'd never seen them before and I think originally I spoke to you about it and you said they were quite a nice card. But I got my, my second one, which is the AJ Barnett um. I think that arrived this week after the last podcast, not sure I mentioned it, but that was kind of my big uh, recent addition. Um. But tomorrow is an exciting day for me because I'm a little bit it's like when I I had my business in um England I get my priorities wrong. So I started my business instead of focusing on what I do.

Speaker 3: 11:27

It was just about merch. So I wanted all the shirts and hats and stuff like that, stickers and things like that, and I've done the same. So I've ordered some Coombe Curry stickers just to put on my storage boxes Nice, I'll fist the print and they're arriving tomorrow. So I'm absolutely buzzing for that. Nice, off Fistaprint and they're arriving tomorrow. So I'm absolutely buzzing for that. And I've got some cards turning up from Card Crazy from a recent break, and I've purchased, as I said to you, mark, a Virgil van Dijk patch number to 10 off someone that posted it on I think it was one of the facebook groups. So, uh, I'm really looking forward to getting that tomorrow. But yeah, I think, other than the the dream weaver, I've not actually had anything. It's just been more visits to the card shop.

Speaker 3: 12:17

Um, yeah, it sounds dangerous having one locally oh yeah, I it's funny, we've got an ongoing joke now, because every time I go in there I say I'll see you next week and he's like I'll see you tomorrow and I'm like well, we'll see but it is interesting because you can get the same.

Speaker 3: 12:37

He's got, obviously, all the singles boxes and stuff like that. So I get a similar buzz to when we're doing the breaks, just looking through those boxes in the hope that you're going to find you know something different or something you want. So it's quite nice to actually go in there, sit down, go through the boxes, have a good chat. It's been good.

Speaker 1: 12:57

Nice. I've had a pretty busy week actually, In comparison to last week. I actually recently picked this up, which is actually I got really excited oh, you've got it this is a.

Speaker 1: 13:12

I'm holding a box of ptg. This is obviously the grading company um in new zealand, um. So kumi sent me a box of a mixed bag of bars, actually, um, which I haven't actually gone through yet. I've sort of saved them. So yeah, they're all like in these packs that kindly sent over to me. So that'll be um delved into later today. Um, because I haven't had time to look through them. Um.

Speaker 1: 13:38

Funny story about this I've actually got my first small storage box first small storage box for my cards which is, I guess, like a smaller version of yours. Just yeah, pretty straightforward, pretty standard. Obviously, my collection is sort of just starting out. My match attacks are sort of already in the binder, but I've obviously started collecting Steven Gerrard cards. Here's the first one. It's a Champions League rookie card which I shopped around for quite a lot just because, as you're probably aware, buying cards without having them in person is a bit of a gamble, isn't it? You don't know how good condition they're in, and I find on eBay obviously you guys don't really deal with eBay that much sometimes they'll scan the card in and it'll show you how it is scanned and then some people will just take a picture of it placed in a card holder or something like that.

Speaker 1: 14:40

So I looked through because there was a handful of them online and I got it and it's in pretty good condition and I've got a couple coming this week. I've got the Premier League rookie card coming for Gerrard as well, and I've got a project it's called Project 22.

Speaker 3: 14:59

Is that where that? Yeah, they look like artwork, don't they A bit more like artwork?

Speaker 1: 15:03

Yes, they're all designed by artists. So I've got a gerrard one coming from um, holland, brought off on ebay. Um, so that's coming. Really excited to see that in the flesh because it looks proper cool, um. So yeah, the ger, the JR collection is growing. I also got the mystery box that I think I spoke about last week off eBay.

Speaker 3: 15:33

That was quite Spurs heavy, wasn't it?

Speaker 1: 15:35

It was very Spurs heavy, so I don't know if the guy was an Arsenal fan and he should want to get rid of it.

Speaker 3: 15:41

He either hates Spurs or he loves them and has got too many and thought I'll get rid to some of them.

Speaker 1: 15:46

I actually, I actually thought so it cost £10 give or take with the postage.

Speaker 3: 15:52

I actually thought it's pretty good going for a tenner yeah, he had a few numbered cards in there as well.

Speaker 1: 15:57

He's got like a numbered Hoiberg to 94, which is depending on your elite. Got an auto numbered Ethan Wheatley rookie card never heard of him. Never heard of him either someone else hasn't heard of him and I got another rookie card, a Hale Nigerian numbered to 299. I thought that's alright for a 10 now, isn't it? And then you go. I've got like some nice, like nadweki prison, got got him twice actually, um, not bad actually to be fair.

Speaker 3: 16:37

Yeah, it's all right for a mystery box.

Speaker 1: 16:39

Yeah, like galazzo de bruyne, I thought you know that's not bad actually because considering it was my first one, I was a little reluctant. But I did see a guy on um. I got off a guy in tiktok. He was doing an like an unboxing of buying from this, from this um, this shop on ebay. So I decided to take the plunge and try it and thought that's pretty good.

Speaker 1: 16:58

So, yeah, happy with that um, which will probably take me into my potential first break this week, um following a couple of uk guys called oh, I think they're called og breaks on tiktok and they do like I think it was maybe around 15 pound, for basically they number all their cards in in in envelopes. You pick left or right and they pick a number on each side or a number of. If you go left, you pick a number from this side, they open the envelope and you get they're all autos. So whether it's an auto and a numbered, it's luck of the draw. Do you know what they are?

Speaker 3: 17:40

before. Can you see like a list of what the actual cards are and then they're put into envelopes, or you have literally no going in blind.

Speaker 1: 17:48

Um, yeah, but they. They guarantee that all of them are autos.

Speaker 2: 17:52

So that's why that's good. Yeah, good, good, they've got a guarantee in there, a recaps or recaps. Repacks are always a bit of a risk, yeah, if there's no checklist or you don't know what the chase cards are. It's the same with the mystery boxes. Yeah, but doing the right thing, you know, getting um, seeing other people in there, unboxing of them um gives you a bit of confidence yeah yeah, 100%, nick.

Speaker 1: 18:15

Yeah, so obviously, speaking to to to Kumi, and obviously, knowing what you do, you guys are sort of um, sort of well versed in in the break side of things. Um, I still haven't broken my duck on that yet. Um, and I think that'll open up a kettle of wine.

Speaker 1: 18:33

You'll come and I'll be like oh, that's good the start of a slippery slope but, um, yeah, yeah, looking forward to my first break because I reckon I'll be, yeah, I will be buzzing, and then, like you said to me last week, it will be whether it's like, oh, a bit disappointed I'm back in, or like elated or something. What comes out, I'll go again, yeah.

Speaker 3: 18:55

Well, it'll be interesting to track how you feel when you do it, because it's yeah, like you know, when you do the first one, see what you get and then come back and say what your plan is after that, because it's we'll get on to it in a minute. For me it's actually part of the. I've thought about this quite a lot. It's like the best way to explain it is. With these Locana cards.

Speaker 3: 19:20

I had a look at the price of these enchanted ones, what they're chasing. It's more affordable to just buy one than it is to perhaps buy the boxes and try and find one. But I actually find doing the breaks quite fun as well. So for me, maybe this is a weird thing to say, but it's not 100% about I'm doing it because I want to get this card. Obviously I am, but there's something about it, not 100 about I'm doing it because I want to get this card. Obviously I am, but I obviously there's something about it, about the, the lottery of it and stuff like that. That's actually quite fun. Um, and I find like when I've you know, nick, when I've picked my teams and sent my money through and we you know the list of filling up and stuff like that kind of once you're in it, that period where you know right, I've paid in, I'm ready, and you're waiting for the break.

Speaker 2: 20:07

It's kind of part of the fun as well, um yeah, yeah, it's kind of the build-up, hey, yeah, getting, you know, getting getting ready for the break, and you know it's it's a lot better, um, when it's happening fast. Um, yeah, but yeah, it's uh, it's all part part of it, I think. Um guaranteed autos, though, um, you know, I think be able to come away from your first break with an auto is always a bit of a buzz yeah definitely so yeah, it should be a bit of fun yeah, my um again.

Speaker 3: 20:36

I say this all the time, but we talked about this in a previous podcast. But emma, my wife, when I first started doing it I think it was about two or three of your breaks she said to me chuck me on a team or whatever. And I said, well, you can. She says you've got to transfer me the money. So I paid her pay, but she picked Bears because she liked the name and I think it was the first one she ever did. It was an Obsidian break of one of yours and, uh, I think they're five card boxes, aren't they?

Speaker 2: 21:10

a seven card box.

Speaker 3: 21:11

Yeah, and um emma picked bears, so obviously you've 32 nfl teams. If you work on that basis, you know, with those short boxes you'd be lucky to get a card. Um. She picked bears and pulled two bears, um. So out of the seven cards, two of them were her cards. I couldn't believe it, um, but one of them was that those atomic initials, the caleb williams, and I've actually got that off at the minute with um. I've got that pcg being graded so hopefully that comes back next week. But I told her this week. I said said you owe me $40. She said what for?

Speaker 3: 21:47

I said I sent your card off for grading.

Speaker 2: 21:51

Your grading fees.

Speaker 3: 21:52

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 21:53

Yeah, so I think the PCG guys are actually at the Auckland Card Show in a couple of weeks' time. Oh, are they? Yeah, yeah, looking forward to getting up there and, yeah, looking forward to getting up there and rifling through a few boxes and seeing what's out there football-wise.

Speaker 3: 22:09

Hopefully they get my cards graded before then they're pretty quick with their turnaround time, though, eh. Oh, impressive. Yeah, and it's quite again. I'm obviously easily pleased, but when I go on their website and I see their timeline and I see it jump up a step, I get a buzz out of that as well. I think I'm going to get a new addiction to sending cards off to be credited.

Speaker 3: 22:34

But that's quite fun as well. And just on Friday afternoon they went from grading to quality check one or something. So that was nice going into the weekend knowing that process is done. Um, yeah, so it could be a good week. Um, nick, mail day for you. What have you had this week?

Speaker 2: 22:54

well, um, pretty quiet on my purchases lately, really. Um, I've got a got a um silver hollow from optic um bonix coming in next time I catch up with Brock, so a little bit of a trade there. But yeah, don't think I'm even waiting on any break cards at the moment, but most of my mail has just been sealed boxes ready for ripping over the next couple of weeks. A few releases Donruss Racing, which is a NASCAR product, something different, good to rip those boxes. Releases kind of Donruss Racing, which is a NASCAR product, something different. You know, it's good to rip those boxes. Kind of a small part of our community, guys that are into the NASCAR, but yeah, but mainly football. So we had Elite and Luminance come in this week, yeah, and just kind of getting through that new 2025 product. But, yeah, those who are getting out to Auckland seeing some stuff in person by not purchasing over the last few weeks, yeah, got a little bit of extra coin in the pocket so get up there and hopefully find something nice.

Speaker 2: 23:55

Broncos wise, but we'll see.

Speaker 3: 23:59

Do you know how much of that card show is made up of sports cards? Will there be a lot of NFL there, for example? Or is it TCG heavy?

Speaker 2: 24:09

It'll be quite TCG heavy, I think from last time. Feedback from last time was that, yeah, really TGC heavy, but there's a few sports card vendors, there'll be a bit of NFL. So, yeah, just looking forward to it. It's a bit like getting down to Wellington a few of NFL. So, yeah, just looking forward to it. It's a bit like getting out to Wellington a few months ago. It's just getting up there and catching up with people that I don't really get to see their faces, Facebook profiles. So meeting people for the first time and catching up with those that I've met before delivering cards yeah, a few beers along the way Should be fun. What did come out tonight, though? From the 2025 product, you can see that there is the first Ashton Jonte auto from Elite. That's a nice-looking card as well, isn't it? Something? Just yeah, from sitting on the desk from the break earlier tonight.

Speaker 3: 25:02

Yeah, that's a nice card. That, yeah, it's funny actually because the card show in Wellington. We, that's where I met you first in person. But it's funny when you say about faces and names, because I don't know if you remember, but I got into the pub or the bar where the trade night was being held and I realised I don't really know what anyone looks like. I've only ever seen Nick's hands. I got myself a beer and I messaged you. I was like whereabouts are you? And you sent me a picture back. I was like, ah nice.

Speaker 2: 25:36

Yeah, events like that. You know a few people and I was the same at that trade show trade night, kind of knew a couple of people. But all the KCC guys that came along, it was the first time meeting them. There was lots of Rob and Ash and Roland just awesome to see actually people in person and it's kind of one thing you, when you're riffing, you kind of don't get to see, that reaction, yeah, so seeing people in the flesh giving them their cards, it's good.

Speaker 3: 26:10

Yeah, I found that, like I said before, even though in New Zealand the community in reality is really small, but when you're in it it kind of feels big and then you get to know people. I've actually made quite a few friends, mainly through KCC, where we started messaging and then I've become quite good friends with, like nick lincoln and hamish. We messaged quite a bit, um, uh, matthew bricks and that, but I've not actually met them in the flesh. It's a bit weird. So it'd be nice at some stage to have, uh, you know, another trade night or something like that where you can actually put these uh names to faces and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 26:51

Yeah, definitely, I think I'm the same. I started out only knowing a few people in the hobby, but now it's just a huge amount of people, but yeah, not many that I've met in person. There's only a handful of people here in Hamilton. The sort of base seems to be mostly Christchurch or South Island.

Speaker 3: 27:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:18

And yeah, so getting out of Hamilton and I've definitely got to get down to Christchurch and catch up with the crew down there. That'll be coming up at some stage.

Speaker 3: 27:24

Yeah, that'll be cool.

Speaker 1: 27:26

Well, I guess that's a perfect time to ask Nick about KiwiCard Collective, for people that don't really know about it or what it is. How did it start? How did it come about?

Speaker 2: 27:39

Yeah, so KiwiCard Collective. We've been what is it? Just over five years now.

Speaker 2: 27:46

The page has been alive and it was actually set up by my younger brother, sir Joe, kind of the founder of kcc, uh, and and at that time was really focused on on nba and uh, sort of through the covid heyday. Um, you know, I just started talking to joe about it um, yeah, he kind of offered the opportunity to start doing NFL, which is awesome because I mean I've always sort of followed sports and mostly rugby, rugby league and a bit of NFL, but yeah kind of got that passion going for the game as well and yeah, it's kind of grown from there. You know that sort of COVID period where there was no kind of people were stuck indoors. It really kicked off. And I'm not going to say it was easy starting with NFL because a lot smaller base of collectors than NBA, but yeah, we kind of rocked through and had five really good years of sort of moving from NFL, done a bit of Pokemon, a little bit of NASCAR. As I mentioned, joe looks after the NBA and WWE side.

Speaker 3: 28:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:00

Yeah, it's kind of built. I think we're coming up close to 1,700 members in our little community. It's not, I know. It's kind of really built around just trying to make breaks affordable. Yeah, so, instead of big three, four box breaks sticking to you know, one or two boxes and you know, I guess for those that want to spend a bit more, then there's the frequency Release day tend to do single boxes of each product, um, but anywhere from two to four boxes, um in that release week, um, and then, and kind of focusing really in that sort of uh through to to mid-end, um, as you start jumping up, um to the top end, the likes of national treasures, uh it's. It's been awesome to rip those boxes and I've done it a couple of times ENT and Immaculate, but never been able to make that step up to Flawless. You start hitting $10,000 a box and it becomes quite hard to fill those spots.

Speaker 3: 30:07

Yeah, I imagine. So that's where the gamble is massive, isn't it? And it's almost like a different league then, or that's my interpretation of it because, you're still putting in a serious amount of money to not guarantee that you're even going to get a single card.

Speaker 2: 30:24

Yeah, but they are beautiful cards though.

Speaker 2: 30:26

Oh, they are yeah, I've done a few breaks out of the US. Yeah, with Flawless and before sort of this year where Bonix kind of pushed the price of Broncos right up. Yeah, yeah, sort of jumping in and it's still a big buy-in. But yeah, I was lucky enough to come away with a Champ Bailey to 25, somewhere down in the collection. But yeah, for us it's just about building an awesome community, people that are passionate for collecting, I guess for me, collecting not so much the cards but, as a kid, all sorts of stuff. I think I just had numerous stamp folders when I was little.

Speaker 3: 31:16

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:17

But then you kind of but a little bit like my daughter, yeah, you turn into a teenager, things drop off and you sort of start picking things up again. When I was over in Jersey and working in the music industry, it was all about limited edition CDs and kind of. I've still got a trunk of stuff that we brought back from there. And you know the cards. I guess, as I was younger, the cards were, you know, quite a small part, but yeah, it's sort of bringing that in. But that passion for sport, you know, as we roll into the season now it's all about, you know, training camps, so it's not just being able to rip the boxes but also keeping close to the games.

Speaker 3: 32:05

There's an element I think of. Obviously you've got the nostalgia of collecting and of the team as well, and the older players. But also I was saying last week because I started watching NFL, I was a classic. I just said it's two-stop start and it wasn't for me and I've been like that for years. A lot of our mates liked it. You liked it before me, mark. But then Lemmy was saying it was on my stag do, wasn't it, and I?

Speaker 3: 32:32

saw that Odell Beckham Jr won out of catch and that was a trigger for me to watch it, sort of kind of right, I'm going to sit down, I'm going to watch a game. But you know, I've been. I think it took me a year and a half or something and then I picked Seahawks as my team and then got fully behind it. But actually starting to now collect the cards and, yeah, there's that nostalgia side of it which for me is very modern. You know Russell Wilson's my nostalgia, because that's when I started.

Speaker 2: 33:02

But the knowledge I tried to take that one out of my memory banks actually.

Speaker 3: 33:09

Let's talk about the Broncos. But the knowledge of the players and stuff like that. Since I've been watching NFL, this is the most excited I've been for an upcoming season because of the work from the last six months through the cards, having a knowledge of those players and obviously the rosters are ginormous. So even trying to remember the whole roster for Seahawks is one thing, but then the cards come out and I feel like my knowledge of the player base going into the season is just off the scale. So that's like another by-product for me.

Speaker 2: 33:46

Yeah, definitely part of it. Yeah, you get to know that whole roster, Definitely part of it. Yeah, you get to know that whole roster. Back to the box breaking. I guess one of the things I really like about it is a lot of people don't get to actually rip these boxes. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:03

And being able to rip boxes for people, seeing people's mail days and other people's passion for cards and the sport. That's the real bonus. Um, the the thing I spoke about, um with with not actually seeing people, um, it does kind of make it a little bit hard. But there's a couple of our community um couple of girls in the community live just around around the corner from me, literally five minutes walk, and I ripped a gold Travis Kelsey kaboom from Absolute this year and I pretty much got off the live, flicked the message hey home, yep, I'll be, there in a couple of minutes and went around and they were just fizzing.

Speaker 2: 34:51

So seeing that passion and emotion and the girl was so fired up about a card, that's probably been a highlight of the five years. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you kind of well, it's just that little bit impersonal online so it took me a little bit to get going there.

Speaker 3: 35:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:13

But once you get to know everyone and you know what it means to them to get that card, you know that's the real highlight for me.

Speaker 3: 35:17

Yeah, funny enough, that was going to be one of the questions I was going to ask. When I talk about and Martin talks about the little triggers or the little things that we found quite exciting, like with me recently submitting cards, I'm finding, like you know, I'm enjoying that process. For you doing the actual breaks as well, is that something that, um, that there's like addiction is the wrong word but something that you, you really get excited about as well?

Speaker 2: 35:46

pulling the car, yeah like it's new, new products coming out all the time and, and you know, new, new players uh coming in each year. Uh, there's definitely that excitement.

Speaker 2: 35:54

Um, you know, I wouldn't uh be, I'd probably get shot if I um spent that much of money from the family account on a box of cards, um, so being able to, you know, and that is another real highlight, you know be able to rip boxes um that you wouldn't normally rip for yourself, yeah, yeah and uh, and, but still, you know the odd personal slips in christmas time or, yeah, when you've had too many beers, but, um, it's um just a real buzz, yeah, when you see, see that card in your hands. I think in the early days there's uh some video of me, uh, oh sorry, of my hands shaking like I've got uh parkinson's when I bought a tom brady downtown, you know yeah it's this combination of nerves and excitement of those big cards coming out do you feel?

Speaker 3: 36:49

do you and you feel that for other people as well? So, even though someone else has got the card in the break, when you see that card come out, do you think that's the same effect?

Speaker 2: 36:58

Yeah, yeah, definitely, it's just, it is a thrill to grab it. I'm probably a little bit understated in my emotions compared to a lot of breakers, but it is. You know it's a buzz to get. Get that card, know that it's for one of you. Know the people in our community, um, and, and what it means to them, uh, and then the whole, I guess, process of getting it there, yeah, and I get the photos, sending it off to them, and getting you know, getting it packaged up, gets a bit nervous when you're putting you know a couple of thousand dollar, bit nervous when you're putting you know a couple of thousand dollar card on the courier.

Speaker 3: 37:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 37:32

But you know, touch wood, Everything's got to where it's meant to go.

Speaker 3: 37:36

That's good.

Speaker 1: 37:39

Nice, yeah, because I always remember Ben always talk about KCC. From the beginning of when you were starting your collection, ben, you were always talking about KCC. So it's nice to actually speak to yourself, nick, and sort of learn a bit more about it so we can see I can see a glass cabinet behind you yeah yeah it's the the collection.

Speaker 2: 38:03

um, it doesn't get to go out in the lounge but away here in my little office spare bedroom yeah that's where all my PC ends up.

Speaker 3: 38:16

Do you Sorry, go on Matt. No, you go.

Speaker 1: 38:21

What's your sort of PC consist of, and you know what sort of cars do you go after.

Speaker 2: 38:26

Was it teams or what sports Tend to chase Broncos. Yeah, so really focused in on that, I do have a little bit of a mix. I did have a nice Shaquille O'Neal auto which I've just sold for an NBA. I think it was the only NBA card worthy of showing off to anyone. But yeah, mostly football, a mixture of cards. I've got a couple of nice mini helmets that I've had done at private signings, with little personal inscriptions put on them, and then you can see at the top there the full size helmet, which is a little bit of a splurge, but I saw it was shiny and it had John Elway's auto on it, so I was like that's coming to New Zealand.

Speaker 3: 39:16

Nice, You've got some bits out for us, Nick, haven't you to show us from the PC?

Speaker 2: 39:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just grab that helmet down. Thursday oh definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just grab that helmet down first eh. Oh, definitely. Probably the pride and joy of the collection Got a bit of a mixture, yeah, of both vets and rookies when I started out. I was quite rookie heavy, yeah, but then I've kind of, yeah, got more into the vet side, yeah. So you can see here the Duke of Denver inscribed on that side and then LA in the middle yeah. Yeah, nice little pickup.

Speaker 3: 39:58

It's a cool helmet as well, isn't?

Speaker 2: 40:00

it Amazing. Huh, yeah, yeah, really well done. Yeah, not many of them around, so that little bit of rarity, yeah.

Speaker 3: 40:12

And that cabinet as well. The cabinet itself is nice.

Speaker 2: 40:20

Yeah, yeah, there's the cabinet. I can't remember where I got it from. It was just one of those local kind of oversupply type stores. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just wandering through and went, oh, look at that, and I don't think I was meant to come home with it. But I sort of came home with what I was meant to get as well. And then, yeah, just, I did try to get it put out in the lounge but yeah, wife wasn't having it. So I came in here, perfect for it, and you know, I think, a five dollar set of leds from kmart light it up and yeah, she's away that's it, glass of red.

Speaker 2: 40:59

Spend a bit of time with the cards, yeah yeah, um, so this is one of the uh, one of the other um things, one of the mini helmets that I had done. You can see it's signed by Bo Nix. That was pretty much straight after the draft last year. Oh nice. And then the inscription is Aotearoa, broncos Country.

Speaker 3: 41:20

Oh, that's cool yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:24

Yeah, I think. The other one I've got is Terrell Davis. Yeah, and that's got. How is it? Let's Ride Aotearoa on it. He struggled a little bit with the spelling, I think, but got there at the end.

Speaker 3: 41:40

That's pretty cool though, with the personal inscriptions as well, isn't it? It makes it really unique. I know it's obvious, but that's really cool.

Speaker 2: 41:48

Yeah, yeah, Not for sale items, you know well, it makes it really unique, and that's obvious, but that's that's really cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, they're not for sale items, you know. Yeah, they're horribly wrong to need to sell them, um, but they're just something that you know no one else has got yeah, no, definitely, um, with the sorry going back to the cabinet as well.

Speaker 3: 42:07

That's something that, since that trademark, I've become fascinated with, because I was chatting to a guy who was a TCG collector and we were talking about how you obviously how you store your cards. Because it's weird, because at the minute I think I did a post on Instagram, I've got mine in those sort of big storage boxes that look like they've got the big red button in them. Yeah, but you kind of want them on display, but I'm not sure what to do with it yet. So that's a new. That's something that I want to ask different people. You know how they store their cards, because it's a bit of a weird one, isn't it? And I said to this guy is it knowing that you've got the card, even though it's not on display? Because, sort of, from what I've listened to on other podcasts and the conversations I've already had, I feel the majority of people have their cards in boxes. I could be wrong, but is it knowing that you've got that card?

Speaker 2: 43:01

Everyone's a little bit different, eh. I mean, I've got boxes and boxes stored away under the table here as well, but you kind of. For me that didn't really work.

Speaker 3: 43:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 43:15

Wanted to have them out so I can look at them. You know, yeah, you invest quite a bit of money, yeah. You invest your spend low. So having them out and be able to see them, you know, regularly, it's all part of, I guess, the way I like to collect and store them.

Speaker 3: 43:35

Yeah, I think what I'll do in the future is I think my plan is to. I don't want to bore everyone with a story, but obviously we I don't know where we're going to live. So we've been in New Zealand for two years. We sold a house in England and that, so we only actually planned to come out for two years, but now we're pretty much going to stay here, um, hopefully forever.

Speaker 3: 43:57

hopefully my mom's not listening, uh black next year but, yeah, like we, so we, because we don't know where we're going to live at the minute, we still rent, so we're down in Wellington, so you're kind of limited with what you can do. But ultimately I think, yeah, I'll probably have a shelf with a few bits on and maybe rotate through I think.

Speaker 2: 44:24

Yeah, it's definitely easier when it's your own place. Yeah, because you've seen many different ways of storing them, whether it be a cabinet like that or little guides on the wall that you can slot your cards into and have a wall of cards. Tim, one of the guys from KCC and a good mate as well, when they built their house, he made sure that the TV room was the display room, yeah, and was able to get all his Eagles gear out where it can be seen regularly.

Speaker 3: 44:57

Yeah, that's yeah, they've got to be seen, haven't they? They've got to be seen or you've got to have. Yeah, definitely have someone display, but it's definitely yeah, it's definitely interesting and that's like like, what I want to speak to more people about is, you know? I don't know what the answer to that question is, but again, that's like the cool thing about what we're doing is just trying to chat to people and answer those questions. See what makes people tick, you know how they collect and stuff like that, which is, you know, we with the podcast, so far, the people we've had on have kind of been our mates who have come out um the woodwork, but that's the right saying is it the woodwork?

Speaker 3: 45:35

or been inspired to tell us about their collections? I guess, um, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 45:41

I think the end goal for me with with being on display is kind of you know that the ultimate's the man cave here. So, um, out, the ultimate's the man cave here. So, um, some of the stuff that you see in the us where it's kind of all it's just. You walk into the room and it's just the team theme yeah, right, the way through it.

Speaker 2: 45:59

Um, orange leds everywhere. Big screen, pool table um, yeah, that's kind of the ultimate. One day I'll get away from the, the spare room, spare room office and out into its own little world.

Speaker 3: 46:12

Build under, go into the sort of dig out the have like an underground bunker. I've got an obsession at the minute. You know, on Facebook you follow these people that do things like that. But my new one at the minute is like these big RVs and sort of like bunkers, which again it's like these big rvs and um, and sort of like uh like bunkers, which again it's the americans in it like dig out underneath the the house and have like a secret passage down and then, like you said, you go down and it looks like, uh, like a club or something like that. You got the pool table down there, like the one with the team. Colors and stuff like that are pretty cool as well yeah, the preppers eh.

Speaker 3: 46:51

Yeah, that's exactly it, yeah. But while we're waiting, while we're waiting, we'll put a pool table in and get our cards out Got to have some entertainment when you're living down there.

Speaker 3: 47:06

Eh yeah definitely yeah, I think he, um, we spoke a little bit because one thing that, uh, me and mark spoke about on some of the podcasts which we plan to do is talk about which kind of links to all the sort of different topics that we've been talking about, about the addiction side of it, um, because I think, like with me and most people say that I mean Don was mentioning that like that sort of addictive personality and I think when I started collecting and got that first card, left it in my drawer for a while I still to this day don't know what kind of triggered that and then when I picked it up, I thought I'll see if I can get a Jackson Smith Jigba card.

Speaker 3: 47:47

And that kind of that, was it? One look on eBay, bang, I was hooked. But for me it was like a race to get an established collection. So I wanted I didn't want to just go, you know, take it easy, which is kind of how you've been, mark, isn't it? You've been kind of quite a measured approach, bit of research and try to decide what you want, before you kind of attacked it, whereas I've just gone gung-ho, get a collection and I'm now just starting to kind of stabilize and decide what I want to do and what I want to collect. Um, I was going with that, that's what I was saying before, I guess that's one for the bleepers part of how you collect the action, sorry, yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:37

I think. Sorry I've lost my train of thought now, but in the brake world, you know, I think the first brake I went into I came out with two autos. Um, from from that first break, yeah, which?

Speaker 3: 48:53

is like saying that that kind of that got me um that's a bad thing, in a way, like because you're like oh, we were saying, yeah, you either get. If you get a banger, you I feel like I'm back in, or if I get nothing, I'm back in. It's those middle ones that are like, okay, I feel under control, but when I get an absolute belter, you kind of want to go back for more yeah, I mean I was clearly balanced with, I guess, brakes and ebay.

Speaker 2: 49:20

But when I say balanced, I was still all in yeah and um okay, with joe and uh explained to me how ship my cards worked, so everything you're buying in the US coming into one place, getting it all back together. It just became affordable to get your cards back en masse.

Speaker 3: 49:42

Yeah, rather than paying that shipping fee on each individual card, I guess.

Speaker 2: 49:46

Yeah, yeah, and so that was a bit of an enabler, yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:51

But it was also oh, I wanna be the first person to have this type of card in New Zealand. So you kind of just keep going and going, yeah, and that's where I mentioned about kind of chasing rookies versus chasing vets. You know a rookie, you've just got no idea where they're going to go, but there's some bloody nice cards.

Speaker 1: 50:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:14

Whereas the vets, they've been there, done that and they, you know, become, I guess, a bit more the centrepiece of your collection.

Speaker 3: 50:24

Yeah, maybe a safer bet if you're going to spend a lot of money as well, because you know what they've already done is in the bank. So if you're going to put the money in or buy the card, unless they get themselves into trouble you're pretty safe.

Speaker 2: 50:38

Yeah, unless they do it. Shannon Sharp yeah.

Speaker 1: 50:42

There's a few things that can still hurt them.

Speaker 2: 50:46

But I mean, it's like anything you kind of for. For me it was about I've just got to set a boundary and that's my limit, whether it's okay I've got to buy this big card, then I'm not going to touch anything else for a month and just really having that control on it. This year, with breaks with Broncos being you know pretty high, um, second or third highest team in breaks from a cost perspective just really sort of pegged it back and went up. I know the products I want to get into. I'm going to go with those and just keeping, I guess, some tight controls in place yeah, yeah, I think from I guess I don't know direct question from doing the brakes.

Speaker 3: 51:36

I think having the when you're talking about the community and the car community and knowing people as well, that probably helps in identifying if someone's overspending or stuff like that as a breaker. Is that something that you can you consider, I guess?

Speaker 2: 51:51

or uh, you do think about it. Yeah, um, for me, uh, when I know someone's um put a good chunk of cash into a break, um, and a box is crap, I I kind of walk away from it going shit, you know.

Speaker 3: 52:07

Sorry, excuse my language I'll just tick the box, it's all good.

Speaker 2: 52:14

But it's kind of you know, you look at the box and you look at what came out of it and you do feel bad you know, and then you kind of go all right, well, I don't know, next time there's hopefully something better in there.

Speaker 2: 52:31

There's been a few times where you have seen people make bad decisions. But you know, it's kind of if you know them well, it's about being able to find them a message, show some support and at the same time, most people really want to help themselves. So when you see it move to that next level, which is when they actually start scamming other people to get some of that money back, that's where you back off and it's one of the parts of the hobby that um, I don't really like. Um, I don't like chasing money. Uh, don't like seeing people losing money.

Speaker 2: 53:15

Um yeah so you know it's the same for a lot of people. Um, you pretty much got one chance and and don't you know, you don't? You don't want to blow that when it comes to the scam side.

Speaker 3: 53:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 53:29

But you know, just also do keep mindful, yeah, that people do put a lot of money into the hobby. So you know, most of the guys that are in KCC know that. You know, for me it's just find me a message, pretty open, pretty easy to deal with.

Speaker 3: 53:47

Definitely.

Speaker 2: 53:48

And you know, if you kind of see that stuff going on, then it's, you know, just get in touch. Uh, you know, it's like like anything um checking in making sure your mates are all right yeah, I think I think the again the whole concept is new to me.

Speaker 3: 54:05

Um, and you know, like the way that you you do it in particular as well, you I don't know what your plans are for the future, but you've got I only use, I do some of the card crazy ones, but they've obviously, with them being a shop and and stuff like that, you can pay with your, you know, directly with your card, or use credit card or whatever, and and I guess possibly to an extent people can, then they've got more options to buy into the break, but obviously with yourself you've got to have the money to be able to do it. So that kind of helps as well. I think in theory, people aren't using credit cards and stuff like that to do it, which is sort of really cool. But from your point of view as well, when you you're seeing that people are paying a lot of money, you must feel you know when that that you know maybe someone's bought into a few breaks, maybe not had a hit, and then when they get a hit, you're also experiencing that.

Speaker 3: 55:01

Um that same feeling because I yeah the same, the same high for them, yeah, yeah and you're pleased as well because you're seeing what everyone's putting in, because you're kind of the man in the middle. So the vibe I've got from KCC is really about correct me if I'm wrong, but it's about let's try and you know you want to get everyone their kind of hit or you want to get everyone some really good cards as well. So when they do and that's shared around. It must feel really good.

Speaker 2: 55:29

Yeah well, so when they do and that's shared around, it must feel really, really good. Yeah, definitely. Um, you know kind of uh that that's why we do it. You just you want to get those cards to people's hands. Um, you know, I think I'll talk a little bit about the payment method. Um, joe and I've sort of sat down and had plenty of conversations around the what next uh for us and and that sort of thing, considering those payment options like credit card afterpay For me. I know how easy it is to just use afterpay here.

Speaker 2: 56:02

I've done that a few times in bigger breaks in the US. Sorry Australia, and yeah, it's kind of you wouldn't use afterpay at the TAB, you know, yeah, yeah, so it's kind of off the table, but we can use it for your fuel there now.

Speaker 3: 56:19

I saw it at a petrol station.

Speaker 2: 56:20

You can use afterpay for your fuel, if you're doing that. Yeah, yeah, I kind of get it for necessities, yeah, and then it's tough times out there for some people. Yeah, I kind of get it for necessities, yeah, and then there's tough times out there for some people.

Speaker 3: 56:31

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 56:32

But yeah, it's kind of, you know, essentially a cash business, yeah, and that from a payment perspective, which kind of, yeah, means the money has to be there, yeah, yeah, Obviously some don't know where it's coming from, but you've got to pay for your spot before the break breaks, that sort of thing. So, yeah, it keeps it quite tight.

Speaker 3: 56:54

Yeah, definitely, I mean, I personally. Yeah, it's one of the reasons For me personally, I've opted to stay primarily with yourself. I do some with Card Crazy, but if you start, I know there's a few others in New Zealand and obviously UK and US. There's hundreds, but I feel like that's a control for me. I've met people and it's obviously a really good community with KCC, so I feel comfortable doing that, and on occasion with Card Crazy, they've been really good as well. So that's a control measure for me. Me is that I just stick to you.

Speaker 2: 57:36

I stick to them and it kind of feels I think it's working for me. I think. Yeah, it can get. You know, I look back to the COVID days it was pretty much across most of the pages in new zealand and, and also breaks in the us. Um, and australia, yeah, um, and yeah, you kind of just got to tell yourself to to piggyback a little bit um at the same time, um, during that period, the value of cards was significantly increased. Yeah, so so you kind of?

Speaker 2: 58:08

had oh, I'm selling something, you were selling something and that was funding it, and it was easier to sell higher value cards.

Speaker 3: 58:15

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 58:16

Yeah, so for the old I mean for me and a lot of people being able to just keep self-funding is, I guess a bit of a goal.

Speaker 3: 58:26

yeah, where you're getting good cards, not necessarily what you want, but you're able to then on sell that um for what it's worth, um and then use that money to build your collection, whether it be via buying uh singles or uh buying into breaks yeah, I found over here though the for me personally I found that, like you, obviously start to learn who collects what and you kind of got names in mind when you get certain cards, but then you've not really got a lot of sellers per card. I found that I don't know if that's because I haven't sort of kind of discovered everyone yet, but it maybe does seem limited. But I found maybe around the 150 mark. You can usually shift it quite quickly, but then obviously anything beyond that and obviously you'll know some of those cards are worth a lot of money. So it becomes quite tricky to then because we don't have as Mark. You know we don't have kind of eBay here, do we as such?

Speaker 2: 59:25

Yeah, you've already got the Trade Me option. You can use eBay, butbay, but shipping into the us because I get a bit prohibitive um, and you, you do have um people that can sign um uh spoke his card crazy. Um dad and matt um their fanatics um side of things, uh, that once that starts back up again, it's a way of getting your cards into the, into the us and getting good value for them. Um, in I guess the cards, some of the cards that I've sold, you kind of gotta, you gotta be around that um, I know four or five hundred us dollars to to really make an ad up. If you're gonna to ship from here, yeah, you take fees into account $50, $60 to get it on the courier, have it tracked door to door. Then it sort of bites into it.

Speaker 1: 1:00:22

So yeah, selling in the New Zealand market be quite a low, mid, anything high.

Speaker 2: 1:00:28

You still get chases of case hits and that sort of thing, and now you do get good value.

Speaker 3: 1:00:35

But being able to utilize australia and the us markets definitely helps yeah, they, I think with, like you say, with the courier there, though they've got I mean, america is kind of the the hobby, isn't it? And they, they're not going to spend those extra fees generally, unless it's something I mean. Correct me if I'm wrong that's extra special, but they've got everything they need there, really, haven't they?

Speaker 2: 1:00:57

yeah, yeah and I I managed to sell a propriety order into the us when he was building into his first super bowl, um, and that just offered free delivery. It was a card, I think, originally from a $5 or $6 spot in a break and as that hype was building, that ended up selling around the $600 or $700 US dollar mark for that card so you've, got to just free shipping under seven, I think six or seven hundred us dollar mark for that, for that card um, just yeah free shipping yeah, I'll.

Speaker 2: 1:01:34

I'll take that, because you'd never sell it locally, yeah and you're getting good money for the card as well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's not a bad idea.

Speaker 3: 1:01:43

I've got my um, uh, rober dunes Blast. That I'm considering because I think next on my list is I've got a Jackson Smith and Jigba downtown, but I want to get a JSN Colour Blast, so I think that's. I've had that graded with PCG, so I want to try and shift that. That's going to be my next move up the bone X actually.

Speaker 2: 1:02:08

Yeah, it's nice for that. That's going to be my next move. I picked up the Bonax, actually ripped this nice break for Brock and managed to pick that up. Nice pleasant surprise having a look on 130 point yesterday, seeing that early season, pre-season pricing starting to have an impact and things are going up again.

Speaker 3: 1:02:28

Yeah, I assume that's one that will stay in your PC though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:36

I just wanted to have a quick look and go where's the value? At? No, I haven't looked at it in a while, yeah, but yeah, cars like that, a bit like the helmets, you know they'll stay with me, unless there's a need to sell it. Yeah, it was an eclipsion for some time.

Speaker 3: 1:02:53

Those Phoenix Colour Blasts are really nice. That's the sort of. I guess my only feelings around the Rover Dunes is that it's such a nice card, but I really want. I've got JSN's the next target and they're high value and it's quite a bit of money. So I can't afford to uh, get a jsn one and keep that. But it is a nice card yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2: 1:03:17

Um case hits have kind of been my thing this year. Um with getting so there was that. Then picked up one of the origins blank slates and a mate manning downtown yeah yeah, a few of the things that were missing from the collection are now in there, so pretty happy with how things have turned out the last 12 months.

Speaker 3: 1:03:35

I know one card that you are missing, Nick, which you need, that Bo Nix the 25 or 33.

Speaker 2: 1:03:43

The green one from Phoenix.

Speaker 1: 1:03:45

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:03:47

We'll see how. I get out of the Auckland card show.

Speaker 3: 1:03:52

That's there, if you want it.

Speaker 2: 1:03:54

Probably should have pulled the trigger before the season starts and prices start jumping up and he's taking us to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3: 1:04:00

Yeah, yeah, I think it was number one, wasn't it as well? Let me double check that. Bookmark, yep, bookmark.

Speaker 2: 1:04:10

Yeah, the old eBay 101.

Speaker 3: 1:04:11

Put the price up a bit. Yeah, the time's flown as well. We've got the Phoenix. It can be on the other side the Phoenix Megabox.

Speaker 1: 1:04:30

A nice segue into the break, yeah yeah, with my uh, I've sent you.

Speaker 3: 1:04:36

Another thing I didn't actually plan for is the distribution of the team. So just before the podcast I sent you some numbers which related to this random list of. I just googled like the full team list. I had it and they had numbers randomly assigned.

Speaker 2: 1:04:50

I just went through. It was the rankings sheet. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:04:53

Is it the rankings? Yeah, I haven't even looked at it long enough.

Speaker 2: 1:04:58

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:04:58

The power rankings. Yes, I started just at the top because Seahawks were at one and I went through it and just went down the list. So I sent you some numbers and a picture of the list and I went through it and just went down the list. So I've sent you some numbers and a picture of the list and I think I'm just going to crack on see what we get, see if we can find one of those color blasts. Yeah, I was about to say. I assume in these you can get color blasts.

Speaker 2: 1:05:22

Is that the international mega or standard?

Speaker 3: 1:05:25

mega. No, unfortunately not no. Standard mega low budget on this podcast. But at least we're not going to subject you to a pack of top class.

Speaker 2: 1:05:41

Seen quite a lot of Phoenix this year.

Speaker 3: 1:05:44

I really really like Phoenix.

Speaker 2: 1:05:48

It's a nice product and there's plenty of hits in there. Yeah, I think for that international mega at $200 a box we're getting, I think, through the case we got a 101, 4 to 10. Yeah it was a really good product for kind of hit ratio.

Speaker 3: 1:06:07

Yeah, it's good value as well, isn't it? Because I like these good product for kind of hit ratio. Yeah, it's quite. It's good value as well, isn't it? Because a lot of these I think um card crazy might have done a a case of these, but you don't really get a lot of numbered stuff, and I think for that slight extra bit of money you get some, some pretty cool stuff in the international ones. But can you get a color blast in these nick I'm not'm not sure.

Speaker 2: 1:06:29

I haven't seen the standard Megas. It should say what the ultra-rares are on the side of the box.

Speaker 3: 1:06:34

Oh yeah, hold on, I've gone in, I've gone early, we'll find out now. So we've got a Jamar Chase. There you go, cortland Sutton.

Speaker 2: 1:06:51

Josh.

Speaker 1: 1:06:51

Allen.

Speaker 3: 1:06:52

Yep A, kyron Williams, malachi Cooley, that's quite nice, actually Not numbered. Purple, jaden Hicks and another one, troy Franklin. But they're all yeah, they're all base. Try and go a bit quicker.

Speaker 2: 1:07:17

People falling asleep on the motorway a lot of talk on the training camp, about Franklin yeah, I'm definitely not going to get into breaking.

Speaker 1: 1:07:34

I was going to say how much that box was it's about my 56th.

Speaker 3: 1:07:39

Gino Smith, I think. Brian, there, that's better. Look at that. That's better look at that. Oh, that's quite nice. So that's different. I think. Another rookie rising. There we go. I'm losing the audience here.

Speaker 2: 1:08:10

I've got my camera the other way around, so it's not on reverse. I can't see the cards coming out. I didn't want anything I brought up on screen to be in backwards writing and that sort of thing.

Speaker 3: 1:08:25

I'll have to tell you then I'll try and make it more entertaining. Demario Davis oh shit, demario Davis. Kyle Hamilton here we go. We've got a Mike Evans. We've got a Tyreek Hill. When you have a look at them later, there's one that has a different pattern on it, which I've not seen before. That's quite nice. I'll have Gene phoning me about that.

Speaker 1: 1:08:53

Is that a bit cheater, yeah?

Speaker 3: 1:08:55

Yeah, and then we've got Terry and Arnold, and then we've got a base Jaden Daniels rookie card. Nice, three more.

Speaker 2: 1:09:04

Didn't see much JD5 come out of Phoenix.

Speaker 3: 1:09:07

No, what a nice card. We Didn't see much JD5 coming out of Phoenix. No, what a nice card. We have got a Derek Stingley, aaron Jones, patrick Queen and we've got which could be numbered. It's not a purple Sam Laporta, a Braylon Allen Contours and a Jazan Newton. Is it Jazan Newton On the Manders? Yes, the rookie. And then we've got a purple Malik Neighbours. That's quite nice, actually Not numbered, but it's quite a nice card that.

Speaker 2: 1:09:45

Yeah, yeah, nice one Chase for HR. Yep, those Contours cards are probably one of the best inserts in the set.

Speaker 3: 1:09:54

Oh, that's so nice yeah, standard inserts anyway yeah, I started. I had a look into the, the jsn um contours from last year. They're quite nice as well, so I've got a few of those. We've got a Foy Aloucan, bobby Wagner, a Jalen Thompson, a Russell Wilson. Less said the better, a rookie rise in Estime.

Speaker 2: 1:10:23

He's in Steelers' colours, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3: 1:10:25

Yeah, that's true. And then we've got another Estime rookie card and a Kool-lade McKinstry Last pack, this pain's over then A CJ Mosley for about the hundredth time this season. There you go, mark Jordan Love.

Speaker 1: 1:10:47

Lovely, here we go.

Speaker 3: 1:10:49

Yeah, nice card. Get that in your collection. We've got another contours here, derek Carr. We've got a Tyron Matthew and the contours is a Keon Coleman, and I know a man that wants a Keon Coleman. Contours Nick Blinko sweet yeah, I'm sure he's been grabbing the that wants a Keon Coleman contours Nick Blinko.

Speaker 2: 1:11:14

That's sweet. Yeah, he's been grabbing the set.

Speaker 3: 1:11:15

yeah, yeah, he's been trying to get all the contours and someone was posting a lot the other day Bill's lot and I said to him why doesn't he message him? I think he was. I don't know if he managed to secure it, but I'm not sure which one of us has got bills.

Speaker 2: 1:11:32

If it's me, just send it on to Nick.

Speaker 3: 1:11:34

Nice one, and then we've got a DJ James and a Disser Isaac to finish. Yeah, no Colour Blast.

Speaker 2: 1:11:46

Dominguez, speaking of colours and parallels, have you started thinking about any rainbow chasers from any of the products? I don't know what that is so rainbows is getting one of every parallel. So in your prism I think there's about 50-60 parallels of each player. So getting them all the way through Obviously a lot easier to do when you start with the one-on-one Hit that and a break, and then you can go through and get the others.

Speaker 2: 1:12:25

But yeah, got many failed rainbows in the box under the table. But yeah, got many failed rainbows in the box under the table, only ever completed one. And that was only because there was only three cards in that. So that was one of the ones I pulled out earlier. It was pretty early in the KCC days. I had a box of mosaic draft picks pulled the 101 KCC days. I had a box of mosaic draft picks. I pulled the one-on-one rookie scripts of Javonte Williams, the draft picks college uni. That came out in a break. It was a local guy that I know quite well and managed to wrangle it off him, then went through and grabbed the gold.

Speaker 3: 1:13:10

Nice.

Speaker 2: 1:13:11

And then the silver. Yeah, so just a three-card rainbow. Yeah, I don't know if it's really a rainbow, but it's just quite a cool chase here if you can persevere through.

Speaker 3: 1:13:26

Yeah, without knowing it was called rainbow. That's kind of what I'm doing with bloody name. Now mine's gone. Aj Barner, yeah, the Seahawks, because I did a trade with Nick Blinko on I don't know if it was yours or Carl Crazy, but I ended up pulling the international gold, the one of 10. But I ended up pulling the international gold, the one of 10, and then I found another one on eBay. It was like the three of 10, so I've got the two. I've got two of those, and then I bought the like the normal gold, so I've got one of those to 10. And then I've just started buying every Phoenix parallel I can find of his, including the dream weaver. I think I've got about I think I might be on seven or eight different ones, but there's so many of them though.

Speaker 3: 1:14:16

Every time I go on and type in like AJ Barner Phoenix, it's just a different one. I think I'll be bankrupt.

Speaker 2: 1:14:25

Yeah, it's easy to jump on and grab the checklist and work out all the parallels, start marking them off and it's a good bit of fun to be had with collecting. I guess picking a lower-end rookie or a vet is a good way to do it because it doesn't come with a really high cost until you get into the tens and the fives and the ones.

Speaker 3: 1:14:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:14:51

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:14:53

I think yeah, so there must be. I think there is. Like I'm not seeing one listed, but I'm assuming there must be, like a one of one of the AJ Barner.

Speaker 2: 1:15:03

I think in Phoenix there's about three or four one ones.

Speaker 3: 1:15:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:15:09

Yeah, so to get the full set, that's definitely a bit of a challenge. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:15:14

I guess, like what you were saying there, I guess you'd expect to see some of them over time start to appear on, because he's obviously not a high-profile player. So that's probably something that, if I was ever going to do it, I might sort of just plug away at that over the next few years as they pop up.

Speaker 2: 1:15:31

Yeah. Yeah, definitely a way to do it that kind of long-term instead of rushing through.

Speaker 3: 1:15:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:15:37

I mean, like any product here, the first few months or weeks after release the value of the product was higher. It all kind of dropped down over time and I guess Hato out and then you know fingers crossed that he doesn't all of a sudden have a breakout year and jump back up when you're chasing those higher number or lower number ones.

Speaker 3: 1:16:01

I mean, if he does really well, then those cards will go up, I guess. But I'd also quite like to I know it's incredibly unlikely, but it'd be amazing if I could get grab a few more of those international golds and then kind of highlight what I'm trying to do, see if the rest can be tracked down. But I don't think that's achievable. I think it's quite unlikely that I managed to get two of the ten.

Speaker 2: 1:16:26

I think it's trying to get all ten of the ten I've seen a was trying to get all ten of the ten, yeah, I've seen a few people do that sort of thing. I've got there's a patch somewhere. It's in one of the boxes of another, gervonta.

Speaker 2: 1:16:42

Williams in his college gear. But the patch has been cut up and it's three, that one's three or five, if you get all five, then it makes. But the patch has been cut up and it's three, that one's three of five. If you get all five, then it makes up the patch.

Speaker 3: 1:16:54

Oh yeah, nice.

Speaker 2: 1:16:55

Yeah, but yeah, now that he's out for the Cowboys and not doing so well, it's a little bit more in reach.

Speaker 3: 1:17:04

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:17:04

But they haven't popped up for a while.

Speaker 3: 1:17:07

Yeah, that's yeah, maybe I'll. They haven't popped up for a while. Yeah, Maybe I'll just hope that AJ Barner doesn't do that well, and try and get the 10. I've got the undisputed title in boxing. I'll try and keep them together. Then you've got all 10. It's kind of like a one-on-one, or I could destroy nine and then turn it into a one-on-one.

Speaker 2: 1:17:27

Yeah, the only one still in circulation.

Speaker 3: 1:17:30

Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, time's flown, I think, mark. You've got a quick five-question quiz to finish us off, and then we'll wrap it up. I think it's been good.

Speaker 1: 1:17:44

Quite soccer-heavy actually, so I might reduce the amount of questions that we'll ask. Sorry, I'm going to do far away I'm sure I'll fail are you a football fan, nick?

Speaker 2: 1:17:57

I've not actually asked that um, I no, I'm not not a big fan, have a bit of an understanding of the game and know a few players, but um, mostly a bit like wrestling, it's's kind of all older stuff.

Speaker 3: 1:18:10

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:18:11

Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3: 1:18:13

So what was it?

Speaker 2: 1:18:13

What was it? It was Gatwick. Before you get into that, I was at Gatwick and I was standing next to this guy and all the girls from the touch team that we were touring with were like going a bit crazy and I'm like what are you talking about? And I was standing next to Alan Shearer. Oh, really no idea at all who he was, oh nice. How long ago was that? That was back when we were in Jersey, so it would have been somewhere between 2003, 2008.

Speaker 3: 1:18:48

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, so you got any Alan Shearer questions Mark. I probably won't answer them correctly.

Speaker 1: 1:18:59

No, I haven't All right, so I guess we'll go with. If you know the answer, you just say your name, Bennett or Bennett, and then you can answer.

Speaker 3: 1:19:11

Thanks for clearing that up Well after the last times.

Speaker 1: 1:19:17

After the last one, I thought I would just state the rules this time. Okay. So question number one Hulk Hogan passed away this week at the age of 71. But what was his real name? Ben? So question number one Hulk Hogan passed away this week at the age of 71., but what was his real name?

Speaker 3: 1:19:36

Ben Ben. Go ahead, Terry Bollier Correct.

Speaker 1: 1:19:41

Great knowledge, terry Bollier.

Speaker 2: 1:19:44

Yeah, I couldn't remember the last name. I knew it was. Terence here.

Speaker 3: 1:19:48

Yeah, To be fair, I only found that out this week. I knew his name was Terry what?

Speaker 1: 1:19:53

the night.

Speaker 3: 1:19:54

I've never even heard that second name, so that will surprise me. I've never heard that. Balea, balea, balea. Sorry my, Are you a Hulkamaniac?

Speaker 2: 1:20:04

Nick. Oh, back in the day, hulk Hogan, macho man, ultimate Warrior there's not many of the legends left, yeah, unfortunately so 24 inch pythons definitely moving on alright.

Speaker 1: 1:20:27

So this is when did the New Zealand all-white soccer team make their first appearance in the World Cup finals?

Speaker 3: 1:20:40

what are you looking for? A year or something?

Speaker 1: 1:20:43

well, yes, it's done every four years, isn't it Ben?

Speaker 3: 1:20:47

oh good hey Nick.

Speaker 2: 1:20:49

Yeah, go ahead, nick. It was 81, was it 81 every four years, isn't it, ben? Oh good, hey Nick. Yeah, go ahead, nick. It was 81, was it?

Speaker 1: 1:20:55

82,.

Speaker 2: 1:20:55

I'll give you it 82,.

Speaker 1: 1:20:56

you're in the right ballpark. In 1982, the World Cup was in Spain and, from my research, it was one of the country's most memorable sporting achievements. Delving deeper, they actually lost all three group games, including a 5-2 loss to scotland um next question one, all okay. The next question is can you name me three New Zealand football players or soccer players to have played in the English Premier League?

Speaker 3: 1:21:38

Ryan Nelson.

Speaker 1: 1:21:41

Can you buzz in please?

Speaker 2: 1:21:46

I was going to pull him up and then start with the next one, but I'm probably stuck with two. I don't know if I can get to pull him up and then start with the next one. I'm probably stuck with two. I don't know if I can get to the third you're doing better than me.

Speaker 3: 1:21:55

I've got a mind blank. Oh yeah, got another one, ben yeah, go on. Winston Reid.

Speaker 1: 1:22:05

Winston.

Speaker 3: 1:22:05

Reid correct.

Speaker 1: 1:22:07

Yeah, winston Reid, ryan Nelson, go on. What's the third one?

Speaker 3: 1:22:14

Nick, have you got any idea?

Speaker 2: 1:22:15

he got. He got carded in the crowd when they were playing here a couple months ago oh yeah, in the crowd.

Speaker 1: 1:22:22

Yeah, chris Wood yeah, the obvious one yeah yeah, most obvious one yeah, so that who gets the point for that? I'll give it to Nick, actually, because he competed.

Speaker 2: 1:22:35

Third one we'll go one and a half, eh, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:22:40

I like that, mark. Keep your camera still.

Speaker 1: 1:22:42

You make me feel sick sorry, I've had to put it on charge because it was lying. Sorry, there you go. Alright. So for the New Zealand soccer to put it on charge, because it was mine. Sorry, there you go, all right. So for the New Zealand soccer team. What players made the most appearances?

Speaker 3: 1:23:00

I mean, are you looking for top five, top ten? Who's made the most appearances?

Speaker 1: 1:23:04

So one player from the New Zealand soccer team who's top of the charts made the most appearances. One player from the New Zealand soccer team who's top of the charts with the most appearances Nick.

Speaker 2: 1:23:16

I'll get this horribly wrong, but I'll go with Chris Wood. That's incorrect.

Speaker 3: 1:23:22

Correct.

Speaker 1: 1:23:24

No, it's incorrect. Chris Wood has made 84 appearances. This player's made 88. Go ahead, Ben.

Speaker 3: 1:23:33

Ryan Nelson.

Speaker 1: 1:23:35

Incorrect.

Speaker 3: 1:23:37

I'm running out of players now.

Speaker 1: 1:23:40

That's all right, ivan Viselek.

Speaker 3: 1:23:44

We've been here all night.

Speaker 2: 1:23:46

Yeah, have you heard of?

Speaker 3: 1:23:49

him Nick.

Speaker 2: 1:23:50

I have heard of him, but I would never have picked it. Oh, he's been here all night. Yeah, have you heard of him, Vic?

Speaker 3: 1:23:52

I have heard of him but I would never have picked it, oh, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:23:54

Yeah, 88 appearances. So Chris Wood's four appearances off of reaching the same milestone. Chris Wood is New Zealand's top goalscorer, but how many goals has he scored Nearest?

Speaker 2: 1:24:12

to 15.

Speaker 1: 1:24:15

Can I?

Speaker 2: 1:24:15

phone a friend. Say again, nick, sorry, can I phone a friend?

Speaker 1: 1:24:18

Yeah, All right. Ben, you said 15. Nick, what did you say Nearest to 15.?

Speaker 2: 1:24:27

Go 23.

Speaker 3: 1:24:30

Oh 44. Oh 44.

Speaker 1: 1:24:34

Oh okay, that's quite a return 44 goals in 84 appearances for New Zealand international team. That's pretty good going.

Speaker 3: 1:24:40

One and two yeah that's not bad, is it?

Speaker 1: 1:24:43

Not bad at all. So, Nick, you are the winner. Congratulations on winning the MC's quiz.

Speaker 2: 1:24:50

Don't feel like I should have won with being that far off.

Speaker 3: 1:24:56

Funnily enough, in that card shop Top Blaze Sports Cards this new one down here he's got a Chris Wood Immaculate card. I can't remember what it's numbered to. It's a 9.5 Beckett. And every time I go in there I look at it and I'm tempted. It is because we're saying they're nice cards. It looks so nice.

Speaker 1: 1:25:17

Well, get it. Yeah, tempted.

Speaker 2: 1:25:20

And that's the thing with collecting. Eh, it doesn't. I was just going to say it doesn't have to be something you'd normally collect. You just see it as you like it and you go to the cash buy it.

Speaker 3: 1:25:33

Yeah, definitely they're nice looking cards it looks good in that slab as well with the gold label.

Speaker 1: 1:25:42

You having some troubles there, matt no, I'm saying Chris Wood could be the record all time appearance in New. Zealand so worth an investment, isn't it?

Speaker 3: 1:25:53

Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. I'll get down there Wednesday following this quiz.

Speaker 2: 1:26:00

The quiz is done. Don't forget immaculate football is coming up. Say again Don't forget immaculate football is coming up.

Speaker 3: 1:26:08

Yeah, that's true. I'm tempted. Now actually Seed's been sown, let's see what happens. Right, I think this is now officially our longest podcast Hour and 26 minutes we're at now. I think it's been a really good chat. We seem to have lost Mark. His camera's gone. I know Lost the host. He's still there.

Speaker 1: 1:26:37

I'm still there.

Speaker 3: 1:26:38

How's it going? He's back. He dropped off for a bit there.

Speaker 1: 1:26:44

That's because my battery's dead.

Speaker 3: 1:26:45

I'm sorry, that's all right, nick. Yeah, I really appreciate's been. It's been really good and and what's been good for us as well, we want you know different people on. So far, the people that we've had on at the minute have been brilliant guests, but they're kind of people we know, uh, people that have kind of, I guess, watched us and got excited about talking about cards, whereas what's been really cool is talking to you. Established collector. Um, obviously got kcc as well, and it's been cool to ask those questions because I feel like I know you quite well through breaking, but without actually knowing you. So having the opportunity to have this chat has been really good um thanks, thanks for inviting me along.

Speaker 2: 1:27:26

Um, you know, it's awesome to be able to, yeah, jump on and do this like we used to be, as you mentioned, just seeing my hands and being able to get to know you guys a little bit better and be part of your journey and get the message out there to the hobby that it's alive and well in New Zealand, not just NFL, nba, wwe, tcg, all that stuff's going great guns. Thanks heaps for the opportunity.

Speaker 3: 1:27:56

I really appreciate it. It's been good. I think we'll wrap it up there then.

Speaker 1: 1:28:02

Lovely to meet you, nick.

Speaker 3: 1:28:03

I'll have to jump on a break at some point yeah, jump on.

Speaker 2: 1:28:10

It's normally about what I normally go about nine o'clock, so nine in the morning your time. Um, yeah, jump on. Follow the page and uh, yeah, be awesome to have you on there don't trust him.

Speaker 3: 1:28:22

Shady character, cool, um, nice one. Nick, stay on the studio and we'll have a chat after, yeah no worries nice one, coombe and Curry over and out. Cheers all the best guys cheers all the best guys see ya see, ya, see ya.