Coom & Currie Sports cards

The Secret Economy of Schoolyard Swaps

Ben Coom & Martin Currie Season 1 Episode 6

Every collector has an origin story. For some, it begins with football stickers frantically swapped in schoolyards, creating our first taste of value, negotiation, and the thrill of completing a collection. For others, it's stumbling upon that first treasured jersey or trading card that sparks a lifelong pursuit.

In this deeply nostalgic episode, we explore the psychology behind collecting and why certain items hold emotional significance far beyond their monetary value. From vintage football shirts to graded cards kept in protective cases, collections tell our stories and preserve our memories. Our special guest Scott shares how childhood collections have come full circle as his daughters now wear vintage shirts from his collection while watching women's football—creating powerful connections between generations.

We dive into how collections become visual representations of identity, proudly displayed in homes as conversation starters and memory triggers. Whether it's vinyl records with spines forming a personal gallery or trading cards meticulously organized in folders, these collections communicate who we are without saying a word. There's something particularly special about American sports merchandise for UK collectors—NFL, NBA and MLB items representing something exotic first glimpsed in movies or TV shows.

The modern collecting landscape has evolved dramatically with online communities, grading services, and sophisticated marketplaces, yet the fundamental joy remains unchanged from those early experiences. Today's collectors might track values and rarity, but they're still chasing that same feeling of connection and completion that began with their very first collection.

Have you rediscovered childhood collections or started sharing your collecting passion with the next generation? Join our growing community on social media and let us know what drives your collecting journey!

Speaker 1:

welcome to cleveland curry trading cards podcast, where collecting meets the game live.

Speaker 2:

We're live. Podcast vendors are back. Six, six episode now, I think. Is that right? That's right yeah sick, yeah welcome. Yeah, incredible really. Um an early segue here because um into uh, the listeners and the socials, I I can't believe that uh, the numbers are still going up. So we were looking at, um like just apple alone, it's like 411 view listens or something like that so people still yeah, still listening to us after five episodes, which is good, more than I could could have actually hoped for when we started it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, obviously, yeah, obviously. You see the Apple side, I see the Spotify side. I think it's about 200 plays Spotify side. But you know, if you think of the bigger picture, it's like you know 200 plays over what five episodes. It's just I don't know, the people't know 30-odd people a week are listening to, or, more sorry, play-by-play platforms. What's that?

Speaker 2:

Us dribble on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just waffle on talking about hobbies and trading cards. Yeah, love it. Long may it continue.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then the YouTube side's picking up as well, which is quite cool because obviously you get the footage and that's where you get to see the JSN shirt that I'm wearing today, which you see usually in the background. I thought I'd stick that on Number 11 there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, really nice actually. When did you get that then? When was that bought?

Speaker 2:

That I actually got in Seattle. Oh right, yeah, so I'd had one before. But it's like the football. Now they have these different versions of the kit, don't they? You know, like player worn, stadium worn and all this, and the sizes vary. So I actually bought this while I was there. Yeah, it fits a treat actually.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it looks lovely. Can I ask how much RRP in US dollars? Maybe I?

Speaker 2:

don't know. I could tell you in shekels boy, but I don't know about dollars.

Speaker 4:

I have no idea.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely no idea. But well, no, no idea, no idea, but I got it from. I actually where the stadium is. I've got like I actually where the stadium is. They've got like the main mega store, but opposite they've got all the I wouldn't say knock-off Nigel shops. They're like just a different sport shop. Right, okay, and it was, I think. Actually it was exactly the same price, so I don't think there's a difference. But I got it from one of those on the trip, so that is fresh from Seattle.

Speaker 1:

That brings. Yeah, that leads me on to um, when I went to Benfica, went to Lisbon a few years back, um, went into a, did a stadium tour, went into a club shop, uh, and was going to buy a Nunes shirt. Yeah, um, obviously before you went to Liverpool, um, it was just before you, it was just before he was sold. Now it was around €120 for the shirt and his name on the back. And then there was a shop opposite the Megastore, literally in the same vicinity, and it was essentially like it looked like it was a market store. There was no Adidas on any of it. Yeah, just like classic benfica badges. No, no sponsors. Um, I just thought that was really strange. Usually they integrate it into one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, close them down, don't they like?

Speaker 4:

don't want to take the business. Do you remember um?

Speaker 2:

do you remember, do you know the very root? Coombe Curry trading cards, coombe Curry sports cards started with going back to year 10 at school. Do you remember Coombe Curry Industries? I?

Speaker 4:

do remember.

Speaker 2:

It's funny what fate throws up. Isn't it Going back to those days when we first said about Coombe Curry jukeboxes?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I remember, yeah, Going around Italy on a coach school kids.

Speaker 2:

Buying all those fake football shirts because my suitcase didn't turn up.

Speaker 1:

That is a story.

Speaker 2:

I slipped out into Milan and they seen Milan shirts all week.

Speaker 1:

Funny. You talk about hooky shirts because there are people listening. I'm actually wearing a Liverpool third shirt, or is it the?

Speaker 2:

away shirt. I think it's away, isn't it the away?

Speaker 1:

and the black one Alternative, alternative one, let's say I bought all three Home away and third Off and and unnamed source, which took a few weeks to arrive. So I'll let you be the judge of where that's come from. Monkey Harrods. I bought all three. They've all got names on the back. All got like the sponsors, literally spot on. Got my little girl this one with Paloma 1 on the back love that. How much do you reckon all in all total? £60 yeah, just under, oh really just under £60. You wouldn Just under 60 quid.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't even get one from the megastore for that, would you?

Speaker 1:

Or the hooky one.

Speaker 2:

I'm not in any way insinuating there is anything untoward going on, but good job, no.

Speaker 1:

Potential statement for next week Anyway.

Speaker 2:

And a fine shirt. It is A fine shirt, it is A fine shirt, it is.

Speaker 1:

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2:

What do you think about the new ones? Because there's a lot of praise I think isn't there for the Adidas shirts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so for Liverpool. I mean the Adidas relationship's always been phenomenal. Yeah, exactly For the more, I guess, from the 70s onwards, and it's just a classic. I've always loved Adidas, probably because of Liverpool as well, and that was helping me on to Oasis last week as well, or this week. Sorry, but yeah, I think the kit and I had a look at some of the training gear and some of the lifestyle range. They will. It's all super cool, super nice. Yeah, really good. We like the Trefoil Adidas logo, like the retro one. That's really cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they've dropped the actual Adidas, haven't they? So you've just got the free. I think that looks really good I don't know why. Something so simple just makes it look a lot better from from my point of view. But I think the home kit's nice the way it's pretty cool, but I'm looking for. I know it's not officially released, but that the the room with the leaked third kit looks pretty nice and green is that like the greeny that's her?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, that's it I'm not usually a fan of green, but I think that's a nice. Oh, here it is.

Speaker 1:

For the listeners at home. We have a special guest. Scott Curry has just entered the room, or the studio, should I say?

Speaker 2:

The studio, yeah, how are you doing?

Speaker 3:

Excuse me if you can hear some music in the background, I mean in the gym.

Speaker 2:

Excuse that. Yeah, that's commitment that.

Speaker 3:

Commitment live from the gym. Commitment to the cap as well. Martin didn't get the memo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah didn't get the memo, did he? Who have we got in there? I can't see it's Puma.

Speaker 2:

I like that a lot. Let's see what you've got on Seahawks, mate Blackout.

Speaker 3:

Obviously Straight into collection stuff. I feel like it's a bit of a pick and mix. Yeah, bit of a chaotic collection of things. Yeah, I'm at all. That's it bit of a chaotic collection of things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, definitely, that's it. We're just chatting about Liverpool's new kit at the minute.

Speaker 3:

Scott, yeah, okay, I see that launched yesterday, is that right? Yeah, first year, yeah something like that.

Speaker 2:

It's first of August, wasn't it? Because there's that weird deal through COVID, but I think it was, yeah, the first of August. But it's not been a secret, really, has it? It's been leaked. I don't know how these things get out, but we knew what it was going to look like.

Speaker 3:

It's the world of social media, isn't it? People know what the kits are going to look like before the club does sort of thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's it 100%. They probably design it off some of these concept designs that people put out, but some of them are nicer than the actual kits, aren't they? Yeah, some are decent.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, funny you should say about, or funny I should say about these unnamed websites that I've purchased some shirts off of.

Speaker 4:

Monkey Harris.

Speaker 2:

Got a website now, has he?

Speaker 1:

They were on this website like two months ago, months ago I think. I remember seeing them on there and I was like imagine if it's wrong, like if if I buy them it's not exactly they've changed the design or something, but they must.

Speaker 2:

Someone somewhere must have but they're usually spot on as well. That's what amazes me. Like you get some geezer in the middle of nowhere, he says oh, this is Liverpool's new kit and I'm looking at it going yeah, bullshit. And then like a month later it's the same kit.

Speaker 3:

It reminds me of those. Remember when you went on a school trip, martin, to Italy I think, and you brought back quite a plethora.

Speaker 4:

You might have been on that as well, mr Coombe.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a plethora of Roma.

Speaker 1:

Home away Italy, yeah of Roma, home away, italy, yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously me. We um, we brought this up slightly just before you came on that we are, we are in year 10 went to Italy and BC suitcase ended up in Rio de Janeiro, didn't it? God knows where, mate, mate.

Speaker 2:

It was at home waiting for me. That's all I know.

Speaker 1:

Well then, from that, though, you got like compensation, didn't you Compensation money for them losing your suitcase.

Speaker 2:

I took them to the cleaners.

Speaker 1:

I took them to. The cleaners Spent all on fake football shirts.

Speaker 2:

No, thanks to the school as well. I think they gave me about three pairs of boxers while I was there and said I can turn them inside out. I can't get away with that these days. A couple of fake football shirts, you'll be alright On you go boy.

Speaker 1:

I remember having a couple of Roma ones. I had got a Japan one, I think, with Nakata. Hit a Toshi Nakata on the back. What a player. Yeah, nice, yeah, good times.

Speaker 2:

It's a variation of names as well, weren't there.

Speaker 1:

But you look at them, fake shirts like now. They're so poor, I mean, they look like I don't know. It's quite hard to describe, isn't it Because they've got no sponsors no, nothing.

Speaker 3:

Well, they were poor, but we never had access at that age maybe, to those things.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, I was thinking about this on my way in um and you'd go on like a family holiday to spain or a spanish island, um, and you'd see those shops with all the kids hanging up and you're like that's a real betty's shirt, like all right, that's a validolid awake here kit. I've never seen this stuff. So just to be able to get in front of it and have the option to buy that thing, or even just a Messi shirt, you didn't have access to it over here when, like 20 years ago maybe you did, but we were just unaware of it.

Speaker 3:

But being in front of those kits you'd only ever seen on tv, like football, italia on a sunday morning or whatever. And then all of a sudden you're like you didn't really care about the quality, you just so. I suppose it comes down to being part of a different thing, doesn't it like if I get that shirt and take it back home like I can, there'll be a conversation around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's different as well, isn't?

Speaker 3:

it, yeah, completely, completely different. You're then part of something else, yeah, so that's what always interested me, even if it was just a pair of shorts or socks that you got from the newsagents that was down the corner from the hotel, sort of thing. Yeah, you took pride in wearing this new batch, this new like yeah, and's new like yeah and that that probably leads, would lead me into the whole nfl stuff.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, I say to martin as well, like, um, tom hanks, big um that film where he's in the giants jumper, that to me was like my first ever exposure to, like I love that, yeah, that nfl stuff. So you're like I want to be part of that thing.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, and then you you've got to find your research in the most random places and tend to be like american films and home alone the goodies, that sort of stuff yeah, you're like well, they collect these american cards and like they they've got them in plastic cases and they like, they're like shrines, um, and we don't do that with sticker albums like we took our swaps into school and we maybe held a bit of like a shiny, held a bit of like yeah, that's worth at least three or four.

Speaker 3:

It was a whole economy, but yeah, the whole. I remember there being an american sports shop on western road. I don't know if you remember that, martin, it was up for like it was open for like two days. That's what it feels like. But do you remember I had that massive converse sticker in the window yeah at home. They just used to give away loads of big stickers at the front desk, yeah and they had crowds we love to draw people in probably yeah, but they had boxes of stickers and cards.

Speaker 3:

You didn't even know what you were buying, but you're like, yeah, I've seen this stuff and I want to be part of it. Um, but what you?

Speaker 2:

don't know any of the players saying yeah, well, I was gonna say what you said there about the, uh, the fashion and the clothes and stuff like that. That's massive, and I think even more so over here, or well, so over here I'm in new zealand, but I'm in the uk, you that, that's that draws you in and it's funny because this is unintentional and we didn't plan for it. But when we talked about the, the, the fake kits, um, for legal reasons, that was well over a decade ago.

Speaker 3:

Um, we've moved on they might not be fake. They might not have been fake as well.

Speaker 2:

We didn't know so, but the but the fashion side of it draws you in. So, like you said in Spain, when you see them, other kits, and it's a bit like the unknown and stuff that you haven't got access to, I think, with a lot of people here like the with the NFL and stuff like that, you see a lot of. I think at the minute you see a lot of dolphins and stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, some nice stuff which yeah 100% it's massive. You can go into H&M and Eastbourne and you can buy a dolphins jumper, can't you? And again, I think it's people just liking the idea that they tap into that American scene yeah they couldn't name you one player, but they like it because they would have seen it in Ace Ventura. Right, that was all to say again, american film and TV.

Speaker 4:

But they like it because they would have seen it in Ace.

Speaker 3:

Ventura right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was again American film and TV.

Speaker 1:

Dan Marino yeah, that's it Exactly Dan Marino.

Speaker 3:

And like oh, what does quarterback mean? Oh right, okay, and you start to get interested in it that way around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, on that note, slight confession here. This is a bit embarrassing, hitting an all-time low, but me and Emma have been watching the current series of Love Island. Yeah, that's taking a nosedive, isn't it? That's rude, that's rude. But there's a couple, there's a couple of contestants whatever they're called on there that have been wearing like this one of contestants whatever they're called on there that have been wearing.

Speaker 2:

She had a lovely New York Giants jumper on the other day and I was like I love that. But the type of people that watch that no offence to those people me but they'll be all over that. So they'll see that jumper and that and, ironically, if that sparks an interest then that's great and I think a lot of people in the UK, where it's not the norm, will see that and want to get involved and perhaps watch it. So you're definitely right what you're saying there. I'm down to 10% on the battery. Do you need the radio Preparing to fail?

Speaker 3:

Get off your love island, Daph, and get your phone charged.

Speaker 2:

Stop voting.

Speaker 4:

Stop voting, get off your love island and get your phone charged yeah stop voting.

Speaker 2:

Stop voting but just just before we because this is this is really really good chat. I like it. But I just just wanted to say as well, just a quick update on the socials Instagram and Martin I've been looking at TikTok has been just going through the roof. Interactions. People are getting more involved and there's a lot more interaction with people now, but the numbers are going high, and one thing we said before this that I want to just get out there is just reiterating why we're doing this, because we've started now to push to Facebook, which we didn't do before.

Speaker 2:

That's a bit neglected. But I've been speaking to some people over here. I've been speaking to Nick from last week's guest, and I just want to be clear on we're new to the hobby, we're new to collecting and stuff like that, and in the UK and in New Zealand, we want to be part of that and we're so into it that that's why we're doing the podcast and the more people that talk to us, the more people that give us feedback like yourself, scott, you're coming on because this brings up a lot of nostalgia and everything's linked, I think, to nostalgia and stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

Massively. I actually think it's the biggest driver. The nostalgic side of things I think is the biggest, otherwise you wouldn't be that bothered about it. No, 100%, you'd arguably be doing like new, new things, but actually we want to collect stuff, because you want to remember stuff, yeah, yeah. And then every I think you've touched on it in previous um previous podcasts, so everyone's got their own way of doing this and starting yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, we'll got their own reasons, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

just gonna stop you there a sec. You know, I just unplugged my mic yeah, and it's just come up with. You notice the recording says on, it's gone to 20 seconds.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, uh, it's all good, my end. What's your saying?

Speaker 2:

18 minutes sweet, we can edit that. This me talking 11 minutes 20.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's all good. Yeah, obviously I'm. I've got the record in mind, so it's fine, mate, don't worry. Cool, sorry, carry on.

Speaker 2:

You're all good bud um, but yeah like you, yeah, exactly yeah, it's linked to nostalgia and and that's why you collect what you collect and through the years, because of that interest. But I just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 3:

If you were to look at the data as well, like the older the card say just take cards, for example they're probably more valuable Because it's not made anymore. People want it. It's like art, isn't it? So I was at an art gallery yesterday and I was thinking about this and collections and stuff, and obviously in a gallery, artwork is curated and put up, but it all has a value and that value is based on what someone would want to pay at Sotheby's auction. Something would go up and it goes like you were mentioning that card that went for half a million the other day. It's only worth what people will pay for it, and the more, the more rarer thing is more people want to get hold of it, don't they?

Speaker 2:

yeah, 100%, yeah, but that's. We spoke about that, uh, previously. When you look at like the serial numbered cars, the, the autos and stuff like that is it's driving factor. So when you, as a novice, one thing I found interesting is you get like older collectors or people that have been in the game like a long time, or the hobby, sorry and uh, they're criticized like people that might want to come in to flip cards to make money and stuff like that. But but for me, people can collect and they can essentially do what they want. Uh, and I've always found that that side of it interesting, because those, those same people you want the rare cards, because and and it's I'd have to write words are all intrinsically linked, isn't it? Because if you the rarer the car, the higher the value. Um, yeah, that's what makes the card more special, unique, or that's why you chase it, that's why you want it in your collection. So ultimately you can have you like me, you like anyone you're going to see a nice card and you're going to be.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter how many times it's been printed or how rare or how valuable it is. You like the card, so that's going to make up an element of your collecting. Um, there's also a value.

Speaker 3:

There's also a value to things like your first card, yeah, like the one you got for a certain reason. So, like ben in in the first podcast you did, you spoke about taking a card that was still there when you went back and you were drawn to it. It maybe didn't have a certain value or a serial number, but it holds more of an emotional value 100%.

Speaker 2:

That's what started it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like a Premier League 94 sticker album has got very little value, but actually you'll remember, um, that like coventry player you got because it was the last one you needed and you like swapped your pack of crisps for it and there'll be a story behind it. Won't to that in its own right? Like carries, yeah, carries a value, an emotional value. And yeah, for me what I've noticed is I like, because we collect everyone collects stuff. I was thinking about this this morning as well. Like, even if you went into like someone's garden and they take pride in that, they collect plants, don't they? Or flowers, it's still a collection.

Speaker 3:

And like I look at this, I think about this t-shirt, this rodriguez new york yankees t-shirt I remember having. I had like 18 left at jfk airport and I went into the newsagents and there was like a yankees annual thing for like 20. I didn't want to get any more money out and this was like 18, so I was going to get rid of my dollars and buy that, buy that t-shirt. That was too big, it was washed down, quite honestly, um, and I've got, like you talk about the dolphins thing.

Speaker 3:

I've got dolphins t-shirt.

Speaker 4:

That was too big it's washed down quite nicely um and I'm not talking about the dolphins thing.

Speaker 3:

I've got dolphins t-shirts and like 49ers t-shirts, giants t-shirts, um, new orleans saints t-shirts like you don't realize, actually, that they form a collection just out of not uh, hoarding and not just not throwing away your stuff, but just because over time, same with cards, I suppose, especially when you get your boxes, that you're doing now like you are going to get a volume, aren't you now? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 3:

Rather than just one. You're going to all of a sudden, rather than over a year, picking up 20 cards in a day. You're going to all of a sudden, rather than over a year, picking up 20 cards in a day. You're going to pick up 100 cards. Do they have the same amount of value as the one or two cards that a bit rough around the edges?

Speaker 2:

you know that you've got second hand in a somewhere yeah, but, but, but then I think collecting with cards and trading cards, it's like multifaceted, isn't it? Like, like you said, you've got the ones that the stories, that that might the value to other people is irrelevant, and it's the story behind it. And then you've got your stuff, where you want to get some high value stuff and and things like that, and I think that's that's the interesting part is, I feel that that you know one element everyone's going to want, that you want the rare card, you want the low number card, you want the valuable card, and that's just makes up a section. But the beauty of it is is everything you said is absolutely spot on. Is that you, um, the nostalgia, the story behind it, and we and we, we go back to last week when we spoke about the tickets.

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, you, you look at any of them gig tickets and I think all of us like, obviously from in our group, we I think a lot of us saw lemmys originally and we had our own ideas and we did it. But when you look at the frame that you create, you look at the gig ticket, bang, instantly. You're like I was with I was with martin and huggins and this happened on that day. It was funny.

Speaker 3:

You have a whole story and the badges mart that you've got next to your record collection.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah and talking about stickers as well.

Speaker 3:

Like around the records, they always used to have a box of stickers and a till. You know and you'd flick through, and no one was greedy, you didn't just grab them all, but you'd flick through and you're, you don't do anything with it, you just add it to your collection in your box.

Speaker 3:

and then, 10 years later, when me and you have looked through mine, martin, you're like oh yeah, that was that NME gig, that first NME gig down by the pavilion or whatever the stickers are still the stickers are still in that bag with the ticket and it's a collection, but it's up in the loft like not really doing anything yeah, yeah, it's all sort of linked, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

like I've got? I've got um next to my vinyls. I've got a box with, yeah, obviously, all the badges. I put on a like a canvas uh what do you call it? Almost like a big badge, the canvas badge. And I put all the badges on there one by one so I can see them and I remember where I got them or I remember that band I never listened to or I didn't like them or whatever.

Speaker 3:

And then I've got a Sainsbury's bag of stickers and leaflets and flyers from Kicks so they're like Isabel she's nine years old and she's interested in that stuff and nella's got paloma paloma will be of an age suit where you're like, let's go and listen to that band that this is collected for this reason for you, these are these songs that mean something to me. Here are these records that are on display, so, like we were talking about how the spines of things dress a room as well, so you can walk into a room. I always used to love my vhs videos, um, and the spines in order, so they would have a serial number. Or, and I said to martin the other day, remember in hmb I bought a um bruce lee all of the bruce lee films and the spine formed a picture of him flexing, um, but you had to get all of the videos because you wanted to complete the picture, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So then your records, like as soon as you walk into that room if you didn't know you you'd still walk in, see a big collection of things in the dust covers and be like, right, I know who this person is yeah I know what they're, I know what they're about, sort of thing yeah, it's funny you say that with the spines uh making that image of inflexing, because a lot of uh in the in the sports cards now they're doing stuff like letters of their names and things like that, so you can get like the same insert and then if you collect them all, put them together, it makes the players names. Yeah, so that's a similar thing it's a clever way of.

Speaker 3:

It's a clever way of uh you in, isn't it? Yeah, I suppose.

Speaker 2:

Then you need the whole. Thing.

Speaker 3:

That was the Bruce Lee thing. I have to get all of these. I remember getting the bus from Upper Lewis Road, where I worked, into town just to check if they'd got them in. I'd ask someone behind the till and they'd be like well, we can order them in for you, sort of thing. Imagine going into HMB and doing that now order that video in for us. It's just not a thing anymore, is it? No, exactly, yeah, but then you go into hmv now and you see those like pop and like the little figures and there's like whole walls of them. The kids are kids from session.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so collecting. Collecting is clearly still still an intrinsic part of the human psyche, or just or kids wanting to find an identity and be part of something.

Speaker 2:

I think that's probably where it comes from most people have collected something, haven't they and like yeah, because it defines them or gives them a sense of purpose.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But again, this is that's another, probably unintentional link back to what we were, you know, when I was saying about why we're doing what we're doing and stuff like that because we get the likes of, yeah, we're driven by sports cars and stuff like that, but we get likes of you on scott, who have got this history of collecting and you've got obviously some really good views on it and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of thought that goes into it. So that brings us back to um, what we were saying is that we want to hear like you know, having nick on last week was amazing because he's a massive part of the community here and you get to hear that side of it. But we want to hear from the likes of Nick, we want to hear from the likes of you and everyone else who can tell us about their collecting and stuff like that. And then it drives this conversation. And then you get to the root of, because one of the things that fascinated me, which is a driver of why we're doing this, is why, you know, I sound like bloody.

Speaker 4:

Meghan Markle now but it is.

Speaker 2:

why isn't it?

Speaker 3:

And it triggers all these fascinating Well, it's like what is your why? What is your purpose? It's not necessarily. Why do you do it?

Speaker 1:

We sound like all the young'uns now Me asking you.

Speaker 3:

It's you asking yourself, isn't it Like?

Speaker 2:

what is my?

Speaker 3:

why? What is my purpose? What am I doing this for? What's the driver Like? What is my purpose? What am I doing this for? What am I? What's the driver? Yeah, yeah, you're going to have a conversation on a Sunday with your kids about it. Aren't you Like um? Or they're going to get into, they're going to see something on TV and get interested in that. You're going to um, support and underpin and go go out with, to go and buy that Funko Pop toy thing that they like and you might not like, but you enjoy their enjoyment from it.

Speaker 4:

I think there's a big part of that we go down the.

Speaker 2:

I took her, actually I took her into the card shop the other day and we opened them in the card shop. So again, the Disney ones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but I'm not forcing it. It I'm just involving her in it. And what was nice is that actually? You know, I'm taking it into the card shop, we're opening the cards in the card shop and it's like getting involved in like you're doing something similar to me, you're collecting your thing, I'm collecting my thing. But she enjoys sorting the cards out now and she looks for the little uh, there's like a little uh, what you call it like logo on the bottom, which sort of like dictates its sort of rareness and stuff like that, and she's all over it. So she knows what she's looking for.

Speaker 3:

Uh, and she's only five, it's amazing and I've seen it on youtube and stuff like is. He just got a looboo doll um box given to her by a good friend of mine, um, at the weekend, and she was checking the box for the qr code and if it had this, because she'd seen it on on like review videos online yeah, um, but she went to bed with it, she fell asleep with it like she wouldn't let it, wouldn't let it go, um, and there's the start of like a another collection, yeah, yeah, even though some of them go for like 800 quid and stuff like that yeah do you know, going back a step here, we came in all guns blazing here and this has been a class chat but we've not actually, as far as I can remember, introduced you.

Speaker 2:

So today's guest or this week's guest is none other than Scott Curry, martin's brother, and I think when we spoke about you coming on, we wanted to, which we've gone straight into, so this couldn't have gone any better. But I think we wanted to know about what you were collecting when you were younger and stuff like that and you like, as I know, anyway, you boys love football and stuff like that. So there's a lot of stickers and things like that. So just give us a little bit more of what that was like when you were younger, going back to the Prem 94 and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean, do you remember we did a Telly, a 90 video as well for.

Speaker 1:

Media.

Speaker 2:

Studies.

Speaker 1:

We did, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3:

Mine goes back to, like our dad Martin. There was an SO garage opposite the Sea Life Centre in Brighton and they did. I think it was Italian, 90, might have been even earlier, might have been later, but they did. England and Scotland scored coins. They were in these lovely little white SO wrappers. I think it was an SO garage. So I remember them being around and collecting them. I remember having loads of Paul McStay ones for some reason, and I think Alex McLeish was probably in the squad as well, and Terry Butcher and all those people.

Speaker 3:

But at the time you don't really realise you're collecting, you're buying into something, just you're buying into something that you're given. And then I remember us going up to Scotland to see Family so you'd get a Premier League sticker album. But then you'd go up to Scotland and you'd go into an RS McColl's newsagents and realise that of course there's like a Scottish Premier League sticker album, but you're only up there for like a week or two. So you do, you do your nuts on like boxes of stickers, swapping between swapping between us like um and learning and learning that side of things, and then, like you go, yeah, at school the whole swaps thing for premier league sticker albums becomes its own little economy. You don't really realize that you're learning.

Speaker 3:

You're learning value of staff and bartering theft probably off quite often. Or like the value of like a pack of crisps, yeah, and all that sort of stuff, or an arm wrestle or whatever, and having them wrapped in an elastic band and stuff like I would never forget my swaps.

Speaker 3:

I'd forget my lunchbox, my shoes, my school t-shirt, everything, but I all I definitely had, because they're like, they were like my currency, um, and then and then, what did it move into? It moved into, yeah, I think, like seeing stuff on film, finding shops that maybe do those sorts of things, so like Space Jam, michael Jordan, air Jordan, seeing them in shops and being like okay, so this is a basketball player.

Speaker 3:

That's also a film star, also on trainers. I never saw that in the Premier League. I never saw that in the Premier League. Didn't see like Tony Yeboah on a pair of like minor football boots or anything but, in America.

Speaker 3:

It was like it didn't really have a cap, did it. It was just like the stardom. You just naturally wanted to be a part of it. I remember playing basketball down Hove Park court rubbish. But I bought a basketball and could never buy a basketball top. Couldn't find, couldn't find one of those. Um, then you started to find out about baseball and nfl was where it really stuck for me. Um, and like religiously now watching red zone on a sund Sunday at 6 o'clock all the way through, so like it can be midnight, and then you start to understand that time zone. It's not the rest of it.

Speaker 3:

Picking up like players, autobiography books which I've been really interested in, I started to, I got. So the last thing I probably properly collected or took an interest in were the McFarlane NFL players McFarlane, however I say it, nfl figures. I remember getting an Odell Beckham Jr, one of that catch he made which was like the greatest catch of all time, on the sideline as a touchdown, a one-handed one. I think that was my first one. And then I got my brother-in-law a I've forgotten his name Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. I found him a Tom Brady figure. Yeah, I've probably got about 10 of them, I'd say and I liked you still got those I used to have to keep collecting.

Speaker 3:

You just had to keep checking Amazon to see what new ones were in or where values were or something. And then watching over time, the Odell Beckham Jr one, like creeping up from a tenner to like 150 quid because the next set, the next series had come out, sort of thing. And like, martin, you with the Green Bay stuff. So, yeah, collecting. I've never been an, I've never been like an incessant collector or been to places where collections or groups of people that collect things are taking place, but I've always collected things. Does that make sense? Yeah, definitely so. Like magazines and stuff. Like that Martin with the NME like magazines and stuff like that Martin with the NME. Like magazines and stuff. Yeah, like you said, it's got so many facets, isn't it? Yeah, and it can be so many different things.

Speaker 3:

The card thing I remember going through the garage recently and, martin, you were the same thing we found all of those NBA cards in the, in the plastic sheets, and again they. They held a massive emotional value because I'd sort of forgotten about them. I didn't even remember that they were still around. I could only name you a couple of players, but I think I mentioned to you the Penny Hardaway stuff and Orlando Magic. I remember just being obsessed with Orlando Magic and I think that's because the cards I got at the time. Well, the packs were just washed with Orlando Magic stuff. So you were like, well, I've got most of the Orlando Magic stuff, so I'll buy into that franchise. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Great, Sorry go on. Matt, so I'll buy into that franchise.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, great, sorry, go on Matt.

Speaker 2:

No, after you, mate, after you I was going to say on that then right, so obviously emceeing more with your football stuff me and my NFL stuff at the minute, and the cards, something that's a bit topical at the minute so this week's been the national card show in America, in Chicago. So I've got a question for you, boys, right, and you can both answer this based on your current situation with collecting, right. So let's say, for argument's sake, us three get a flight to Chicago, we land at the national. What's your strategy? What are you doing? Talk me through it. You arrive, what do you think is your first move strategy? What you're doing?

Speaker 1:

Talk me through it you arrive, I'll let you go first, bro. I'll go first yeah, Probably get a hot dog.

Speaker 3:

Do you know what I thought?

Speaker 2:

coffee, a couple of lagers how funny is that one?

Speaker 3:

I thought, find a coffee first.

Speaker 1:

Kind of a Bud Light, not a hot dog, and probably have a little. I'll do maybe a lap, go around see what's on, what's available, um, and then I did it at the fanatic store, did a lap of it hannah was waiting went back to what I wanted to look at in depth. It probably would be the same strategy with that. Yeah, anything that I sort of that piqued interest I'd probably go back to. And then obviously not ever been to a card show. I can sort of understand how they work. Obviously they have sort of stalls and they sell memorabilia or cards. Yeah, I'd look into, obviously, what I'm collecting at the moment, seeing if there's any Liverpool cards, ideally Gerrard, but if I'm in Chicago probably looking at NFL, aren't we really? That probably won't be an awful amount.

Speaker 2:

No, I think they've got it all, honestly.

Speaker 3:

There'll be some MLS cards, right, and that'll be a whole new world that you'll be exposed to.

Speaker 2:

That's a good point. To be fair, yeah, I'm not too hooked into and like Gerard, the LA Galaxy card?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that would be nice, got them on the watch list.

Speaker 3:

That's great Ibrahimovic, like all these European players that have gone across that were like absolute heroes, but for us they were fun, weren't they? In terms of their career, they're probably done, but they go to the MLS and then bam, and then their card off the side of that you get.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there'll probably be some incredible cards. I've already got some of them Gerard, la Galaxy ones on the watch list and I've actually got. I've actually got an LA Galaxy Gerard shirt that my friend who works as a vintage store in Brighton they've got. It came into the store. So they get like bulk, second hand, like vintage or second hand like sports, sports gear. And as soon as I came in she said, do you want this? And I was like yes, please.

Speaker 3:

LA Galaxy teak shirt is already classified as vintage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that makes you feel that was what that was what 2014. I think he was at. He was at a galaxy round went on to some great things after that yeah, absolutely so, yeah, I would, yeah, I would, yeah, go around, have a little look, go back, see if there's any Aaron Rodgers rookie cards. Yeah, and just speak to people, because a lot of the time now, knowing what we know, a lot of people that are new to it are probably going quite blind.

Speaker 1:

And wouldn't, barter, and wouldn't read it off and go oh wow, that's $100, I'll get it like me on day one in Seattle, how?

Speaker 2:

much is that $85 to take my money yeah, sold it's a $10 card. It's fine. Take it Seattle. How much is that? $85 to take my money? Yeah, sold. It's a $10 card, it's fine.

Speaker 1:

Take it. Yeah, I think that would be my sort of plan of action.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'd imagine it'd be quite overwhelming from what I've been listening to, because obviously for this I'm listening to a a lot of podcasts and I think that's why I wanted to emphasize the angle that we're coming up, because a lot of these guys they are. They're good to listen to, but they're so-called experts.

Speaker 3:

Um uh I'd question what defines an expert, because they've been doing it for a long time or they've sold a certain amount of cards or their collections, certain value.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know that. That's a great question. Because for those who can't see, you're giving it the old air quotes, because some of the stories are a bit dubious. You've got I might not be careful what I say here, because you know we want to be mixing with these people. You know we want to keep them on side. But one of them is telling the story and you know this is this is a uh, a company or whatever. They're charging people membership to give them advice and it's about flipping so we can turn like I don't know, three hundred dollars into ten thousand dollars or whatever. But then this guy is telling this story about how he you know he's allegedly been collecting for years and stuff like that and he's been ripped off on ebay because he didn't do his due diligence. And I'm I'm in my car and I'm listening to his podcast. I'm shouting at the radio going and you're charging people for a premium membership. You're the one that's trying to, you know. So it's interesting, but like you.

Speaker 2:

But you know, amongst all these podcasts you get a lot of views on what's going on at the national. What has been interesting is like the mistakes that people have made, so like even when I went to the car show in. Well, you know, that's nothing in terms of size compared to the national. I was a bit overwhelmed, to be honest, because I hadn't been to something like that. You've got all these tables and cards and I'm like that's why I wanted to ask you because, like you know, I feel what we're six, seven months in and even there I felt overwhelmed.

Speaker 2:

And I think some of the podcasts we listen to they've been talking about like they'll go to a table so walk around and they'll see they might have made a list of what they're looking for. Then they see a card. They see like a nice version of it and they might not the guy that you know, they might not want to budge on the price. So then they walk around and I heard a lot of similar stories where people then forgotten where that was. So when they want to return to it later they can't remember what booth they were at. So, like one of the interesting tips was like just write down where you saw things and write down information. So I think when I was talking, you know, like with the strategy, I think, having listened to that, that would be something I would do, because I know I'd get overwhelmed.

Speaker 3:

I'd probably go to the first table and just buy the first seahawks card well, and also on that, there's like there's only one of those cards right, presumably, to say, if I saw a uh, an eli manning giants quarterback card and it was one of ten, there's one going. There's probably only one of them in here. I'm not going to leave it for an hour of 10. There's probably only one of them in here. I'm not going to leave it for an hour yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, but I've never been to these things. So, like Martin, it would probably be yeah, find a, find a coffee, decaf, probably something like that. If they do that, they'd definitely do that in Chicago, of course. Yeah, yeah, it probably would be overwhelming, wouldn't it? You'd have to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like the whole expert thing, I think everyone's got their own. Like I could, you could have no cards but be an expert in it. So if I look at like art collection or art sales, you could be. You could work for Sotheby's selling artwork and have no artwork, but be an expert in values, have the contacts to have buyers and sellers, and then you'll have other people there that are purely in it because they want that card for their collection and they're the other side of the spectrum. So they've got a thousand cards. They're an expert. They knew when, when the card was printed, what season or where he was at, and in terms of where that player was at, in terms of their career. Yeah, that's his expertise.

Speaker 3:

So it's true it's a tricky one because it's because it's such a wild, expansive discussion. I suppose you're expert in the thing you're interested in. Yeah, I'm an expert in the value of the cards, but I'm not an expert in the cards in general, like what for what series they form, or that sort of thing. Yeah, I could say I'm an expert in um Panini FA Premier League sticker albums from 94. But it's only because I had them. That's a mastermind. It's only because I had them, you know.

Speaker 2:

That's it, but that's why you've got respect. Everyone's the way anyone collects 100%.

Speaker 3:

So, like Martin said, it would definitely be more about the conversation. You probably have some great conversations with some old boys who have got ridiculously old cards, the baseballs in the plastic case that are signed, all that sort of stuff. Just lovely stuff to be around. We'd be there for the stories you'd 100% be, there for the stories.

Speaker 3:

It'd be hands up, wouldn't it? Completely vulnerable to your innocence and like youthful naivety, just be like. I just like being around it and I want to see what's here and if something takes, your takes, so it'd be a giant thing for me. If it was an old giants card or book or signed piece of something, I'd be, I'd be in, I'd be in for it.

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, but just to be around that stuff that you've never had access to before, yeah, exactly yeah, stories is a great one, and I think you, we could go there with a list or target of things you want to buy, but I think a lot of my time would be, uh, well, now, try and get a bit of content. Obviously, uh, but you go around I just enjoy talking to people and stuff like that and you probably end up talking to a lot of people that aren't, that are just there viewing it as well. So it wouldn't be like the vendors, because you know, uh, a massive amount of them are going to be trying to trade all the time, but you, I reckon you'd meet a lot of people wandering around and you'd lose a lot of time just chatting and and seeing what's going on, obviously trying to pick up at the odd freebie and that not a problem direction or something so like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that those guys over there giant, giant experts, um, or those guys over there will know more about la galaxy than I do. Yeah, and you get pointed in the right direction, I suppose yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, coombe. It's funny you say about making a note of where the cards are or where you've seen them, because I was at a car boot sale maybe a month or two ago and I was in that exact position, went back round, lost it, don't know where it's gone, can't remember the store it's on are laps and laps that I give up run home. So, yeah, it's probably best to get. I don't know. Maybe get a floor map. Stick a post-it note on the side of the table.

Speaker 3:

Take the registration down start putting start putting little deposits down, like taking options on stuff, like put a dollar down on a card.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, give them your name and number, like if anyone comes in for a card.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, give them your name and number. Like if anyone comes in for that card, give me a ring and I'll, I'll make a decision funny enough.

Speaker 2:

I um, when I was in the shop the other day I was chatting to the guy after don was on last, well, not last week, a few weeks ago, uh, and I've gone through, I've got. He went through the like the singles boxes and he gave me a load of cards, west Ham cards, and he said to me just in conversation that he's got a Jared Bowen also coming in. And I thought you know the good guy I am trying to hook more people in. I've put that aside, secured it for Dom, so I'm going to bring that Jared Bowen there. But again, that's, that's just the evidence how it escalates. Like he's buzzing, wasn't he like us doing this and talking about it? And then I'm buzzing because he's buzzing, and then that's what happens and, like everyone's, I've got I said out the woodwork last week, but I think it's out the woodwork, but a lot of people have been um, what's the word?

Speaker 2:

Inspired, encouraged or whatever to talk about. Actually, we collect and it's funny how many people actually are collectors, which is everything we've been speaking about. And, like you said, scott, that can be anything. Yeah, and it's amazing really. The principle is the same thing, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

It could be cars. It could be coats, hats, trainers the reasons are the same. It's probably about being part of something bigger than you. Could be coats, hats, trainers. The reasons are the same. It's probably about being part of something bigger than you, something new, something overseas that you don't have access to here. I think the principle is probably the same, yeah definitely.

Speaker 2:

MC. We're going to move on to a regular discussion around mail. Mc. We're going to move on to a regular discussion around mail days.

Speaker 4:

Yes, we can what we had what's coming?

Speaker 2:

up garage days, shop days, mail days, you name it yeah, so what's been happening?

Speaker 1:

I'll start with garage day. I haven't brought anything out of the garage, but I did spy something in the garage SPL sticker album, as Scott mentioned earlier. That was in there alongside what year, I want to say. I think it might have been 2003. Yeah, I didn't get it out.

Speaker 3:

One last thing on not one last thing on collections at all, but it's on the garage thing. So dad's obviously got a load of football shirts up in the loft, right, yeah, and there's a box of a collection of shirts and what's what was nice the other day is obviously the lionesses were in the euros final and won it. But um, both dug out two italian 90 england shirts that we would have bought from Asda down the marina. I remember getting them. One of them is an actual Umbro top, the other one was part of a pyjama set. But I've got Isabel and Nella, 9 and 3, both in England, italian 90 shirts watching the football. Then Izzy and Nella dig out some of the old Adidas and Admiral.

Speaker 3:

Rangers shirts and they fit. They fit Izzy. So this collection that sat in a box for 30 years maybe yeah, she's now active again. They're now rocking. They're just walking around the house as if it's just you know whatever, and I'm like I remember where I got those things from and now my kids are wearing, asking questions about them, full circle. Love to see it there's a picture on my Instagram picture of the pair of them outside in their in their shirts.

Speaker 2:

I've like a lot, of, a lot of support for the women's football and yeah, and stuff like that. You see that quite quite regularly. Yeah, um yeah it's really important.

Speaker 3:

I think you've got, I've got two girls. Um, they're both into football. You want them to. If you can see it, you can be it cliche stuff I want them to get up to. You're the same? Well, actually, we're all the same. We're all fathers and daughters, aren't we? And then, yeah, my, my nine-year-old, who is wailing to her football, was very, very competent, very good player, being able to see, see these, these women in front of her having massive, massive levels of success. Um, as the norm is really powerful, it's a really powerful thing. So I think it's. And they've got their england sticker albums, lioness's sticker albums.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what I found is some old, dormant triggers in me where she wasn't at three years old, she wasn't quite lighting up the stickers properly, so they were in a bit wonky um. So there was a bit of there's a bit of an education. There was a bit of like, do's and don'ts, some non-negotiables. I called them, yeah, like, uh, let's, let's take if we're gonna do it, but let's line up the corners please. And the way and the way she opened some of the sticker packs was a little bit careless. Yeah, but she is only three, so I just didn't want the edges getting damaged. We know what I mean. Do you remember when the stickers? I think there was one season with the Premier League sticker albums where the team stickers were slightly taller than the other ones.

Speaker 2:

If you tore the top of the packet, there's always a risk of catching the top of the team. You get two parts. You get part one and part two, and then you have to join them up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the team photos yeah.

Speaker 3:

But they've got. I've been involved in women's football and I think it's. I think it's massively important for them to have, for them to have role models and to now see boys having Chloe Kelly as a role model or Williamson as the England captain. They just they've got that on the back of their back of their shirt. I think it's massive for them, it's massive for society, isn't it? It's? I don't like the word equality because I think it gets thrown around quite a bit now. I think it's lost its way a little bit as a term. But yeah, they can see that level playing field. They can go, izzy, can go to school, play football with the boys rather than getting chucked in goal, that sort of stuff, yeah the opportunities are there Because the boys have seen it on TV as well.

Speaker 3:

They're like oh okay, england did win the Euros and the men didn't win the Euros, so does that mean the women are better than us? So I think they walk in. Girls walk in with a bit of a swagger. It's quite interesting, quite funny.

Speaker 2:

Our times are changing. Have you got anything in the post, Mark?

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir. So obviously the box that you kindly sent over from NZ, I actually went through after last week's episode was recorded. A few of my favourites to pick out Jordan Henderson, prism Nice, I just love Henderson as a player for one, so that was a great one. John, the Van Dyke Phenom from the Adrenaline this season, which is really nice. Quite a cool card, oh yeah yeah. And obviously the one that you bought for me and you, the You'll Never Walk Alone Alison one, was really nice, wow.

Speaker 1:

But, obviously there was quite a lot to go through and unpack, so thank you so much for sending them over. I had like five plastic packed bags worth. One is for Huggins but I haven't given it to him yet. I also bought a hanger box a Topps flagship edition hanger box off TikTok shop and it came on Friday and I actually broke it yesterday. Now you get 35 cards, which is quite a lot, and the main card that I got out was this wonderful Federico Chiesa refractor. It's black and white, like it's in a Zubake kit, and it's numbered 75 to 150, is there a name for that? I know bookmarks are 1 or 150, is there a straight down the middle? Is there a name for that? Bc?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, that should be straight down the middle.

Speaker 1:

I love that yeah, a couple of good like future style, like pink refractors. Yeah, they're nice, but that was. That was quite a nice box. They're really nice cards. I like the. I like the chrome ones, aren't they? They're the chrome style. Yeah, just like the standard edition, but they're really nice. Let's just call them shinies, yeah, take it back 100. So that's that. I bought, a bought not really bought a folder, but some of my life because I don't want to put it into top loaders.

Speaker 2:

So it's a new box, a new binder. You're going hard now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's not gone unnoticed in the living room. And I'm still waiting for the delivery of my two Gerrard cards the Project 22 and the Premier League rookie card. So they should be with me early next week. Other than that, that's it, mate. What about you?

Speaker 2:

So again, another slow mail day. I had the I think I mentioned the Virgil van Dijk patch card which had. It's funny, actually, because when I first saw the patch I got it delivered. I was so excited about it because when I first saw the patch I got it delivered.

Speaker 4:

I was so excited about it.

Speaker 2:

But I looked at the patch and my first thought was well, where's the patch? You see the square and it just looked like it was a white backing.

Speaker 2:

And then I got a light and I'm looking up inside it and I could just see the red fabric and I realized it's part of the number from the back of the shirt. But when I showed Emma she said exactly the same thing. She went what happened to the patch and I started laughing. I was like exactly what I said when I saw it. I was like showing her. I was like if you just look up there you can see the bit of red fabric. It's like the number um. So that was a cool card. That was immaculate.

Speaker 2:

Um, as in the, the product and yeah number to 10, I can't remember what number it was, but that came. And then I had my. You know, I was talking about getting the cards graded. I had my submission come back, so that was a PCG 10. And then I had a few autos and stuff that I just had. You know, like when I said about the authentication- oh yes, that's what that is yeah, yeah, and this is the card.

Speaker 2:

This is the famous card I mentioned about when Emma went into a break and she got this absolute belter. Tried to charge her for the grading, but she's not having any of it. So that's a pristine 10, yeah. Well, this is what I was going to say. Yeah, like you noticed that, I was going to say if you can see, it's a pristine 10. Yeah, so wow it's annoying because it it's a 10, 10, 10, 9.5. I thought it was a bit bit stingier than really should have given it an extra 5 and gone that.

Speaker 2:

Um, so I had those back, which is just increased. My buzz for sending cards off to be graded like that in itself is an addiction. Um, just looking at the timeline, you know, when it goes to the next phase of the quality check one, I'm like smoothed on a bit. But, um, we're already talking about um sending the girls because they've got like this legendary you know, like we're already talking about sending the girls because they've got this legendary. We're talking about the rarity, legendary Mufasa from Locana. So we're talking about sending them off, getting them graded so they can have a graded card, because Lily's already fascinated about the cards and the slabs and stuff. So she keeps saying we said we'd send it off. She's like does that mean it's going to be in one of those things like yours? And I'm like yeah, yeah, so next phase yeah, so that's mail day.

Speaker 2:

I've not had my stickers yet, which I thought I'd get monday, oh yeah um stickers. They've not come, yeah um mail day should be good because I've got my KCC break cards. Nick sent me a thing tonight, so he's sending them out tomorrow. I should get them Tuesday. There's quite a bit in there, I think some rookies for Seahawks this year, so looking forward to getting that and then I think it will go quiet for a bit. Yeah, I've definitely slowed it down now I've got my collection established, definitely looking to do more trades than spend.

Speaker 2:

You know, try and keep, use my inventory, as they say. But interestingly, talking about segues, going back to the top to start the show, pushing the Facebook now. So I think what I want to encourage the listeners to do is join the Facebook, join the group, because I think, mc, we need to. You know we want to look for a way to trade more, so you get these sales groups and stuff like that. But I think you know we're doing sales groups and stuff like that. But I think you know we're doing the podcast and, uh, stuff like that. But what, especially in the new, in the new zealand space, is I want to create more chat and stuff around trades, knowing what people are collecting, almost flirting with the idea of a database or something, so you know what everyone's collecting. So when you get stuff, you can shift them on more or you can have conversations.

Speaker 2:

And I had a guy who messaged me tonight. Actually, uh, he said he was a seahawks collector and I've seen his name a little bit, but my first reaction was, oh, you know another seahawks guy, he's going to be getting in on the breaks, but uh, but then we were chatting and he was a really he's a really cool guy and what's interesting is the first instincts then to like help other. So he's saying what he's been collecting and I said, actually it's really good to know there's more Seahawks guys, because when I get cards I can help him and then you'll become familiar with what he's got, what he's holding, and then he'll know what I've got. So there's actually a buzz in actually helping each other. And that goes back to stickers and stuff like that, doesn't it? When you're at school, everyone's aware. And you said, scott, it's like, uh, like a little. What do you say?

Speaker 3:

like a little economy economy, yes, like a circular economy, isn't it? Yeah, but you know, yeah he's, he's got number one or he's got that one you need, but be prepared to pay a bit because you, he knows you need it, so that's exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you buy it on cheap and then sell it for more. Um, that's it. But even last week when we opened that box and, uh, that contours came out of keon coleman, straight away I was like my mate, nick blinko, is looking for that, uh, and then nick from kcc's like right, send that to him. Um, so there is also a buzz and everyone knows kind of what everyone's collecting. So, like people I'm not the only one that knew this guy was trying to collect all the contours cards so then everyone's like what ones you need, and then everyone's looking out for that card. Um, so that's another. That's another reason.

Speaker 3:

Like we, you know, we just want to contribute to the hobby now as well it'd be interesting it would be interesting to take the idea of an art gallery, which is a collection of art which is held in high regard and has a bit of a sort of way. People think you have to behave a certain way in an art gallery stand in front, some art go oh yeah, I like the brush strokes, blah, blah, whatever you might, whatever your opinion might be, but take it the seriousness of an art gallery way and and have card displays yeah, that'd be really interesting. So, like shush, like everyone's quiet just going around, like like everyone's quiet just going around, like I like that the descriptions under the card and like they're just up on the wall and like held in the like the be quite interesting, wouldn't it especially?

Speaker 3:

in the UK because I don't, don't know if that would exist, apart from like the fanatic store, martin, that you were at and stuff. Be quite interested, wouldn't it? That's like a cult sort of art gap, yeah, but for cards, collections of like, yeah, american sports or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I think I think to an extent, some of the booths at like the National, for example, or Fanatics Fest, have like stuff that's display only you know, like some of that stuff that might have been consigned or whatever. You know like we were talking about golden and stuff. Yeah, they go to the national, you can go and consign with them, but they've also got stuff that's been consigned which is there just to you know, get people to look at.

Speaker 2:

So it's like you know, come to the booth because you've got this, this card, and while you're here, buy this or consign this um but but that that works because if you know there's something like and that's the funny thing with cards you know like essentially they're just bits of cardboard but when you get the history of it, the rarity of it, where it's come from and even when it's been consigned, there's a story like how you know.

Speaker 2:

I see one, funny enough, on golden, where I think the card was, but it was a couple who were trying I think they were paying for ivf or something, and we're like getting lower money and this guy pulls this card, sells it for x amount of money and he's saying like we can now, you know, afford the next round or whatever it is, and stuff like that. So even when you go and see that and you see it on telly or you see it on social media, if you can then go and see I don't know if people listen to this game, I don't know what the guy's talking about but if you then go and see that card in the flesh and you link it to that story, it adds a bit more to what you see, and it paid for.

Speaker 3:

like he goes and takes the kid that was born out of IVF in front of the card that paid for it. Oh yeah, I like that. Yeah, like unbelievable stuff really isn't it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true. Isn't it In the future, when it all goes to plan and the kid's growing up.

Speaker 3:

He or she's 10 years old and she's like. By the way, daddy sold that card to pay for this.

Speaker 4:

Here you are in front of this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like it. There you go, you'll see that on display. Scott, I assume it was only bills and council tax for you in the mail this week, or phone bill.

Speaker 3:

So what I did see in the post this week was that box you sent from New Zealand to Martin. I actually did see it come in and there was a big part of me that wanted to take ownership of it and open it up, get involved.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, it says here it was delivered.

Speaker 3:

Yes, no, the only things for me in this collection again, but it's like the J Cole clothes stuff, that guy, and if we just tip into fashion a little bit, he does really interesting collections of clothes in a short run. You know once they're gone, they're gone, they're done, and it definitely draws you in to wanting that, wanting that stuff or to be part of that thing, and there's an amazing story behind his stuff and the numbers that he uses and all that sort of stuff. So no, that he uses and all that sort of stuff. So no, but yeah, it's just the boring stuff for me. No cards as of yet. Yeah, although I might start. Yeah, I might start. Who knows where that starts? Yeah, starts by.

Speaker 2:

Conversation Exactly, mate, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3:

You'll be out after me. Find me a Giants card. We're up and running. Oh, you'll be out. Finally, a Giants card. We're up. We're up and running. Oh, I've got some Giants cards.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to bring. I'll tell you what I'm going to bring a tonne back with me. I tell you I can't wait trying to draw Huggins in with the golf cards. The golf card correspondent. On that, though, a little update with where we're going nice segue again, we have recruited Ben Huggins, hj, as a permanent member of the Coombe Curry podcast. So he's going to be our quiz master, not always in person like today, but he's going to be doing the quizzes, keep them interesting, keep them neutral, entertaining.

Speaker 2:

So he's now a permanent, permanent fixture and I have been talking to um several parties, let's say about some regular spots where they can bring updates on various things, products and things like that. Um, so there are things in the what they say in the offing, things in the what they say in the offing in the works so watch the space. Hopefully we can update you soon what are we on? To next plans for UK. That's what I wanted to talk to you about. When I come over, what are we doing? We're going to plan to go to Germany or something.

Speaker 1:

See our German friends yeah, go visit the German fan base, sign some memorabilia, some cards, probably no, look at me.

Speaker 2:

Some Kingman Curry one-on-ones.

Speaker 1:

There's only one at the moment, boy, but there will be one when you go to Fanatics in London.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, so yeah, we're going to go with I think there'll be more than one.

Speaker 1:

I can't wait for you. Well, first off, yeah, we're going to go to London. We're going to go to the Fanatic store and BC's going to get his 101 card printed and it's going to blow his mind. So, yeah, we'll do like a day out in London, won't we? And then we're looking at, yeah, germany. We need to look at what card shows they've got over there. We'll do a day out in London, won't we? And then we're looking at Germany. We need to look at what card shows they've got over there, because that would be really good to do that and hopefully, maybe tie in a Bundesliga game. That would be good.

Speaker 2:

Let's talk of a live podcast somewhere. Oh yeah, Get some guests and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, potentially a live podcast from fiddler's elbow pub in brighton, which is um my friend's pub. He runs it and also the name of our five-a-side team who recently won division three, um on the last day, so you know, um, there is like a snug, there's a snug at the back. Um, uh, potentially do, yeah, if we get in there like early or in the middle of the day, it's a bit quieter, we can um bring in, like get like a group of people in, do a couple of, couple of episodes and that'll be fun. Um, yeah, so lots in, lots in the works, but yeah, we just need to iron out some dates, don't we really? Um, yeah, and where are we going? Because where else did we say, is it edgerton?

Speaker 2:

yeah, we, want to hit a card show. We talked about edenbridge, didn't we? Edenbridge, that's the one um yeah, but I think we need to like we're saying you know we want to. We want to hear from people that are interested in what we're doing and see if we can go and, um, you know, meet up with them, do a live podcast there, like even the germany thing. If we can get someone who's been listening and who wants to host or be on it, then that'll be. That'll be really cool as well.

Speaker 1:

So you just want to do things that are a bit different yeah absolutely yeah, and obviously keep bringing that fresh yeah especially when we've, um, obviously started this, started this being other ends of the world. So to get us together, I think we're spending a fair bit of time together. Sorry, emma, sorry Hannah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

We live near each other, the family that have wanted to catch up with us.

Speaker 1:

It turns into a business trip. Pop over. I'll sort of bed out in the garage boy. We'll be in there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'll take it Not a problem. Shall we on that note then? Shall we let's? I mean, this could be a shocker and he could have stitched us up here, but we, I've been sent a quiz from the new quiz master, ben huggins, uh, and they are a series of voice clips. So we've had the first one, that where he sort of briefs us and then I'm going in blind here. So we are essentially live. Uh, I have no idea what he said. He could be about to mug us off on our own podcast, um, but I, it's huggins. I know it'll be done in good faith. So, scott, you're involved in this. I don't know if you've got a right there in the gym.

Speaker 3:

I'll do my best. I'm on six percent battery um on an old phone which was at about 90 when I started this, so yeah a motorola.

Speaker 2:

It's a Motorola flip phone, that's it.

Speaker 3:

It's because I've got a snake running in the background draining the patch with it.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to play this. Let's just go with it. I don't know what's going to happen, so I'm going to play the clip hopefully you can hear it, and we're just going to go follow the instruction. Here we go here we go first clip question number one faces prints.

Speaker 3:

Alright, I'm going to say something like 258.

Speaker 2:

I've gone 150.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually going to go 273, I'm going going to go 273.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to write these down. So, bc Scott, you've gone 258. Eight correct and MC. What did you say?

Speaker 1:

175?

Speaker 4:

273. A bit off too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, I think I guess you just go into the next question. Here we go. The answer is 355. Okay, I like what he's done there hold on, so that's one point to Scott then here, we go. Oh yeah, I see, yep, sorry Got that one. Mc, well done, thank you Right. Moving on, moving on, here we go. Here we go. I thought.

Speaker 4:

I mean Question, I mean Liverpool question, but ones that people you know Can guess. So this one is a Liverpool thing, although not relating to Liverpool FC. I mean, I'm surprised from Liverpool's John Lennon that's a classic argument so I think that's probably fair. So yeah, a point if you get two out of three and a bonus point if you get all three right.

Speaker 3:

Which three airlines right I've got it's going to be Ryanair, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

oh, that's a shout, yeah. Going to be a there, isn't it? Oh, that's a shout, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's going to be a link up with our oh, I like that.

Speaker 2:

It's got to be easy Jet. They definitely fly. I thought they, yeah, jet 2?.

Speaker 1:

Jet 2? Do you know what I'd, jet 2.

Speaker 2:

yeah, british, airways, I'm going to go EasyJet Jet 2 BA yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm going British Airways, right, and yeah, probably what's got Aer Lingus or Aer Island or whatever Irish yeah, one of those ones Irish the answer to question 2 EasyJet Ryanair.

Speaker 4:

Very well done if you got this one Jet Irish. The answer to question two easy jets well in air. Very well done if you got this one jet two so we got.

Speaker 2:

I got two out of three, scott, what did you say gone? The battery's dead, oh no, it's a two horse race.

Speaker 1:

I think. I think he'd be still there because I think he would drop out otherwise. Do you know what I mean? It would go back to just me and you. Anyway, I think he went for he went Aer Lingus, ryan Jair, ryan Air and Easy Jair Scott did. I think he went for he went Aer Lingus, ryan Air and EasyJet Scott did yeah, I can't even remember what he said.

Speaker 2:

Now should we just move on to the next question? Yeah, I think the answer was EasyJet yeah, let's move on, here we go. The answer was easy Jet, yeah let's move on.

Speaker 4:

Here we go. The answer to question three I was a bit more than we thought. Actually, I did have a go at my own quiz. I'm, I guess, quite a bit under this, but the answer to question three is my favourite. Give you a bit more spot on my heart. I don't know really, but let's give this a go. Question three bit more spot on mark. I don't know really, but, uh, let's give this a go. Question three uh, how many people, as of the 2024 census, live in new?

Speaker 4:

zealand, so both islands and any in the islands of new zealand. You seem to know how many people live in new ze to have in 2024? Yes, oh.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what are you saying? Really bad of like populations? I'm going to go, I don't know. 250,000?.

Speaker 2:

That's more than that boy. A million, I know what million it's in, but I don't know it's. I'm going to go five and a. I know what million it's in, but I don't know. I'm going to go 5.5 million. That'll give you a clue Wow 5.5. Go on then, I don't know, london's about 8 million, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Is it? I think London alone is about 8 million.

Speaker 2:

I'm 95% sure it's 5 point something million that live in New Zealand. So I'll give you a clue. So I've gone 5.5. I'll go. You're going to go one above or one below, aren't you?

Speaker 1:

I'll go 4. Exactly, 4.

Speaker 2:

What? 5.4?.

Speaker 1:

No 4 million.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just said to you, it's in the 5 millions oh, right, sorry, 5.3, 5.3, there we go.

Speaker 1:

5.3, good, 5.3 here we go and this is only the quiz hold on.

Speaker 4:

The answer to question three adds a bit more than I thought. Actually, I did have a go at my own quiz and I guessed quite a bit under this, but the answer is 5.2.

Speaker 2:

I've been robbed, been absolutely robbed. I think that puts you. Do you know what I'm seeing on board with this quiz? Yeah, I think that puts you. Do you know what MC I'm bored of this quiz? Yeah, I think we should. I think we Good format. I think we need to work on it a little bit with HJ.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2:

Because the WhatsApp thing rolls on, doesn't it? So I don't know where I am.

Speaker 2:

I'm confused. I could do with some spacings where he goes like question number one. I think we've lost the punters here as well. Yeah, we'll move on. Yeah, we'll move on, and I think we have more than covered out what we plan to talk about, and I think the I think this has been a really good chat. To be fair, yeah, I really enjoyed it all guns blazing talk about, and I think the I think it's just been a really good chat. To be fair, um, yeah yeah, yeah, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, really. And um, speak to someone obviously close to to my collection, I guess growing up, um, so we, yeah, we really thank him for coming on. Obviously lost him due to battery loss, but it was great to have him on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all suffering with battery issues tonight. Professionals we are. Yeah, no one's ever heard of a plug socket, but yeah, I think to. Yeah, to reiterate, we just want people to follow us on Insta TikTok, get on the Facebook page, get on the Facebook group, because there will be stuff coming. We're pinning some New Zealand sales, some UK sales, permanently to that group as well, so that's constantly open. So you don't. You know it'll only be updated monthly. Um, I forgot something we haven't spoke about. We've just updated the playlist uh, yeah give that a listen, but oasis oasis.

Speaker 1:

Well, um, phenomenal one word phenomenal. Um, hands down the best gig I've ever been to. Yeah, um, yeah, still sort of getting over it actually. Um, the energy in the state in wembley stadium was something else. Um, it was a great day.

Speaker 1:

We did a lot we went around london, yeah, I went to the, went to the pop-up store on carnaby street. Um got like the debut album on a limited edition tour-only final program, and then I bought a long-sleeved Adidas t-shirt and I also wanted to buy one of the football shirts, but they were sold out everywhere. So Adidas and Oasis have done a collaboration and released a big collection.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was amazing, unbelievable um, which has led me to go back onto ebay and try and get these Oasis trading cards. Remember me telling you this, uh, I think I remember when I was telling you, oh, yeah, yeah, when they, when they reformed that um, there was a company that designed like these really cool, like sort of um, triple a, backstage passes, limited edition, um, numbered um, like some of the band's plectrums in a card, and all this um and they, I think the boxes were like 100 quid, um, I've seen, I've seen a couple on there for 100 quid, so tempted, but yes, overall, tempted, nice, overall, unbelievable yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, nice Glad. I think all the reviews have been good as well, haven't they? And even over here, that's all people are talking about, because they're coming to Australia, aren't they? I think they're playing Melbourne, amongst other places. Yeah, decent.

Speaker 4:

Do you have?

Speaker 2:

two Nah, nah, I'm not going boy they're not coming to New Zealand and I'm not. I love Oasis and I've seen High Flying Birds and what's the other one called Liam Gull yeah, what was it?

Speaker 1:

what they called BDI.

Speaker 2:

BDI yeah, I've seen BDI twice actually and I've got to go and you know I'd go and see it if it's here. But yeah, I'm not bothered Too far Although that said one of my things as well. Would it be the same getting old and stuff like that, but everyone's. Now I'm sort of regretting it a little bit because everyone's raving about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've had a few friends that do exactly the same, but yeah, it was amazing, honestly, so good.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully they get the bug for it. I've heard there might be some new dates and stuff added. There's talk of it, isn't there?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, rumours of next year. Yeah, rumours of the tour.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so they've probably got a bag for it now, haven't they God?

Speaker 4:

yeah, god, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think that's it, Anything to add MC.

Speaker 1:

No, just obviously the Tops Premier League announcement for next season. Oh, yeah, obviously we spoke about that in our WhatsApp group about they're releasing diamond rookie cards. Yeah, I think I'll go with collecting tops next year. I think I'll veer away from match attack. They look good Looking forward to that, because that gets released I think next week, I think in the UK anyway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw a picture today with the new Liverpool, with the new the new Liverpool, with the new Adidas kit. I was like that's amazing, like it's only come out two days ago the Topps design.

Speaker 1:

I saw I saw a post about it. The Topps design for this year's Premier League is like a sort of a throwback to the design they did in 2007 to 2008 season. So the design is very similar, it's like a little own to that and yeah. So yeah looks cool.

Speaker 2:

Looking forward to um getting into Morrison's and clearing up so, as it stands, you're thinking that that's your your bag to neck for this coming season.

Speaker 1:

I think so. I think, since I've started collecting, the tops has been my preferred route of getting cards, so I think I'll go with them this year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think I'll keep an eye open again for the Liverpool stuff. But I think, yeah, for me, nfl, I love Phoenix, the Phoenix stuff. At the minute Nick at KCC listed another break for Phoenix Hobby Box, so tempted minute. Uh, nick at kcc, uh listed another break for phoenix hobby box, um, so tempted um. And uh, the optic stuff later in the year.

Speaker 2:

But I think I was thinking about this because I think we were speaking about it, about uh, like the favorite products and stuff like that and a lot of us talk about that.

Speaker 2:

But I like they do it for or they did for this year for the Premier League, but like that mosaic, big fan of that, big fan of Phoenix and Optic. And, as I mentioned before, there's the Obsidian stuff and I just saw I think it was this week or last week the Obsidian football came out, but it seemed to be like a lot of I haven't looked at the checklist but I think it was more like football on the whole. So there's quite a range of stuff you could get. I think if I was going to collect a bit more actively in the football or soccer football, whatever, it would be more that stuff because the Premier League, like I said to you before, I can't think of anything worse than having man United cards or whatever in my collection. Yeah, but Obsidian though, yeah, such a good product. You know whether it's football or football soccer, but the cards are so nice and that card there, that's.

Speaker 2:

Obsidian.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're really nice yeah they're just really nice products.

Speaker 2:

I think the Mosaic, the Prism stuff comes out late I think that's a lot later towards the end of the season Something that Nick might be able to confirm from KCC Because this will be like the first since I've been collecting, like transitioning into the next season, the next cycle. I came into it late in theory, in you know, like in the cycle. So, yeah, looking forward to obsidian, looking forward to mosaic, uh prism, um, but I think I'm just gonna go. Seahawks have got uh jayden milrow qv this year, so I'm gonna try and go hard on him. I've seen some nice stuff in the elite which is out of the minute.

Speaker 2:

What's frustrating about that, though? The price has gone up for the breaks for. Seahawks, because obviously you've got some decent rookies, but I think the.

Speaker 2:

I've been in three elite breaks and I'm only getting like base cards, like I'm not seeing. But on eBay I'm seeing some really nice Jalen Milrow stuff, some autos and things like that. So I'm not sure what's going on there. But yeah, I might, might not get too involved with that this year and just wait till later on when the other stuff comes out that I'm really keen on. But yeah, same same strategy for me just wait till later on when the other stuff comes out I'm really keen on. But yeah, same same strategy for me. Uh, just going to focus on those rookies for seahawks, I think, and this time around I'm going to buy less into the breaks for other stuff you know like where, like I might go bears, broncos, vikings just to get the the like stuff to swap up and I'm just going to go into what I want and really focus on that seahawks collection.

Speaker 2:

Um, nice, hopefully that will leave me some spending money for the uh for the england trip and uh, we can break some boxes and stuff over there oh yeah, that's the plan um, oh, mate, yeah 100. It's going to be absolute riot in there when we get in.

Speaker 1:

I have to shut this door down.

Speaker 2:

I know Coombe and Curry sports cars are coming, little limousine but, yeah, that's the plan. So yeah, but that leaves me with one thing to say, and that is regards to your family.

Speaker 1:

Much regards to your family as well. Bc, I've passed that on.

Speaker 2:

And I think we have got to a nice point and over and out, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yep, see you next week. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening.

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