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Remember that rush of excitement when you found a special card in a pack as a kid? That nostalgic thrill has evolved into something much more powerful for today's collectors.
What begins as an innocuous purchase—a Tyler Lockett card from Pike Market in Seattle—quickly transforms into a full-fledged obsession that consumes both time and finances. Our hosts share their remarkably similar journeys into the trading card world, despite focusing on different sports: one drawn to NFL cards, the other to football/soccer.
We candidly explore the psychological elements that make card collecting so addictive. From the adrenaline rush of opening packs to the thrill of scoring a rare find online, both hosts acknowledge their struggles with "throttling back" their spending while maintaining their passion for the hobby.
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All about that Base & Nick Blincoe
The line between fantasy football and sports card collecting blurs beautifully in this engaging conversation with guest Nick Blincoe, who shares his unique journey from watching "King of Collectibles" on Netflix to pursuing an impressive Philadelphia Eagles collection.
Nick's story resonates with collectors worldwide as he describes how living in America sparked his passion for the Eagles, leading to his current quest to collect cards of every player from their Super Bowl winning team. His pride and joy—a Cooper DeJean Clearly rookie—came after chasing it through numerous breaks, perfectly capturing that elusive thrill all collectors understand.
Fantasy football emerges as a surprising driver of collecting decisions throughout our discussion. When you draft players for your fantasy team, you naturally track their performance more closely, creating an organic desire to add their cards to your collection. This symbiotic relationship between fantasy sports and card collecting adds depth to both hobbies, making game days even more exciting when you're invested in players across multiple teams.
We introduce our new "All About That Base" segment, celebrating the often-overlooked base cards that form the hobby's foundation. Each host and guest contributed a base card to a season-long collection that will eventually be given away to a listener in a custom binder. This pushes back against the chase-focused mentality that sometimes dominates collecting conversations.
The episode also tackles the fascinating psychology behind card grading—how collectors sometimes feel disappointed with a "9" even when they can't visually distinguish it from a "10"—and debates whether licensed or unlicensed rookie cards will hold more value as licensing rights transition between companies.
Whether you're chasing high-end autos or completing base sets, this episode celebrates the community aspect of collecting that connects us all. Follow us across social media for more discussions and join our growing community of card enthusiasts who understand that sometimes, it's not just about the cards—it's about the stories and connections they create.
Welcome to Coombe Currie Sports Cards Podcast, don't we? Yeah, definitely episode 12.
Speaker 2:As we were just saying, we've used all our budget on Cardsley breaks and KCC, so this week we have Scraping the Barrel. We've got Mr Nick Blinko.
Speaker 3:How are you guys?
Speaker 2:doing. Nah, that's a joke, we've got Mr Nick Blinko.
Speaker 3:How are you guys doing? No, that's a joke. You'd hit peak numbers and then we're like, okay, we just need a plateau out for a few weeks.
Speaker 2:What's funny is that you've actually been mentioned on quite a lot of the pods. And, as I said, when you came into the green room here, I've never actually heard your voice. Nick, You've presumably heard mine if you've actually listened. You came into the green room here. I've never actually heard your voice, nick, you presumably heard mine if you've actually listened.
Speaker 3:But yeah, like as you say, I didn't even know you were english and until you started this podcast, and then some of the banter that comes through is uh, now you know why yeah we've actually chatted quite a lot, haven't we on the messenger about cards and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But this is what I'm saying. The amount of people that I've been talking to just through getting involved with cards has been amazing. But, yeah, some people don't even know what they look like. Like when I first met Nick from KCC, I'd only ever seen his hands. But yeah, no, it's nice to have you with us and we say this probably every episode. But just having people on have a chat about your PC, what you're collecting and stuff like that how long you've been collecting will be be good to get into. So I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 3:No, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mark, should we start with the? Give us some social media updates from. Give us a little bit of a rundown of TikTok and where we're at and what's happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tiktok's going really well. We're sitting around 650 followers. Views are good, interactions are good, thinking about going down a bit more of a route of searching for an auto, you know, you see, like these videos of like other creators doing like a sort of a search where at the moment content's good, really enjoying it. But yeah, feel like there's room for improvement. But really happy with um the following that we're getting so every day.
Speaker 1:We're getting, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20 followers a day. So it's just growing and growing. So, yeah, um, thanks for the follows, keep it up, keep pinging messages, because always like talking to people, because it helps us learn, helps us grow. Yeah, long may it continue.
Speaker 2:But yeah, what we should say is we've got a new intro and outro. Haven't we debuting this week on the podcast?
Speaker 1:yeah, with the, the groan and the learn, we've become more sustainable to to learn new things. So, yeah, we've got a new intro and outro, which I think is great personally, maybe because I created it, but it didn't take that long, but it's cool. It's a nice new intro. It'll be a little bit more, I don't know just a new way to introduce the pod, introduce some videos and the outro as well. Yeah, so check it out on the socials. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been good. I've seen some decent videos with the Premier League stuff as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's still going really well. In terms of breaking the goods. I've just broken Super 10 this week, which is slightly disappointing, but as it is with the card game, I'm sure we'll get onto some of the tops news that's come out recently in terms of new products. The Hobby Box yeah, the Hobby Box. Obviously, we've spoken about you pre-ordering stuff for New Zealand, which is great, and I actually also bought something special which I'll introduce later on in the episode.
Speaker 2:We haven't even got the base packs over here, so I've pre-ordered some from EB. Do you remember back in the day when we had it was funny about coming here to New Zealand? Do you remember the shop on Western Road called Electronics Boutique? That is EB, isn't it here we had, do you remember?
Speaker 3:the shop on Western Road called Electronics Boutique.
Speaker 2:That is EB, isn't it here? Yeah, we'd always queue to get PlayStation games and whatnot.
Speaker 3:But they're everywhere here Say that again Nick EB Games, I think, was here. That's where all the yeah, you bought all the PlayStation games, nintendo and things like that. Yeah, I don't think they've got them in the UK anymore, though, because the PlayStation games, nintendo and things like that, yeah, I don't think they've got them in the UK anymore, though, because there's that one on Western Road when we were growing up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I haven't seen the name around for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty big here. But yeah, I've pre-ordered the cards. But it said they're due in September, but I've heard rumours it might be October. But yeah, like, give us an update later about the the hobby box, because we were talking with Stu about that, weren't we like whether or not there'd be a hobby box? But we, we were talking in the week mark, weren't we about, um, how the hobby box is made up and it sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1:to be fair, yeah, the setup was great in terms of what. What's included in the hobby box? Um, yeah, funnily enough, obviously, stu mentioned it last week on the pod and, lo and behold, the news comes out this week to introduce it. So, yeah, it looks like some big product in there. And before you ask, yes, I'm interested Just about biting the bullet and spending 200 quid, 200 pounds. That's part of it.
Speaker 2:It's pretty decent when you look at what you actually get in the box as well, though, to be fair. So it seems like a decent product. But let's come back to that shortly, because I want to talk about, just briefly, instagram obviously still putting out a lot of content and stuff like that, but what's amazing is the I've been saying to you quite a lot the last two weeks. I've been talking to people directly, you know, like interacting more, talking to people about their cards and stuff like that, and all of a sudden, the followers. Now I'm waking up every morning. I've got about 30 new followers.
Speaker 2:So keeping that content going and keeping the interaction going with people was, I think we're. Let's have a quick look. Let's have a look. We are on 1383 at the minute, so that's pretty cool, but hopefully, as that grows, we should see. I mean, we've had good numbers on the podcast anyway. Um, I mean, I've made this joke probably too many times, but I thought it would just be like my mum and dad your mum and dad having a little listen, you know listening to it at the moment.
Speaker 1:So no, I think I think my mum did one episode and was bored.
Speaker 2:Shout out to wendy um. But like you know, like everything obviously is linked, isn't it? And I think that the growth on the, the tiktok, because you see a lot more interactions and then the followers on um insta, has been really good. But yeah, stew last just a little recap on that he's obviously inspired us this week. You probably see, from the backgrounds there's a little change in. I've actually gone from just using the iPad to I've gone and got myself a decent webcam and this little beauty.
Speaker 2:So thanks to Stu for that. He really highlighted how poor our production was, so we both stepped our game up. So yeah, thanks, stu. So that's the socials, and obviously we set up the. We've covered the new set up. Let's, before we speak to Nick and give Nick a good grilling, let's mail day, shop day. What's been happening?
Speaker 1:quite a bit in front of me. Actually, I've got something that I forgot. I thought, which is always a good sign when you're spending money on cars and forget that this is coming. So I actually got tops. Now, mo seller, um yeah, and you can buy them. You can buy them either like a single or like 5, 10, 15 the same card. Essentially, you sort of double your bubble in terms of whether you get a numbered card. I didn't, so one of these is yours, kumi, if you want to know but they're a nice card, come in a nice box.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was nice. Nice, I forgot about that. Got shoes, little care package here which came like, so came with his little business card on top that's when you lose.
Speaker 2:Basically yeah, yeah, yeah, came with this little business card on top.
Speaker 1:That's when you lose basically, yeah, yeah, came with some nice Merlin cards, a few of these Chiesa there, and then also came with a Loftus Cheap 199.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's pretty decent. Yeah, those other cards were they? Topps Chrome were they?
Speaker 1:No, these were Merlin. Oh, merlin Topps, merlin refractors um. And then a nice little pack of under 21 cards from um 2023 um, they were sealed, are they? They were sealed, yeah, yeah, opened them up. They're quite um, they're quite nice cards, because they're like first bowman almost like a I guess that's like a rookie um.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that was a nice little care package from shoes. I got um. And then what else did I get? Got some gerard cards. I can't remember if I got these last week or not. Did I show these last week? The the Gerrard?
Speaker 2:number plays. Yeah, you showed us those last week, but then you've sent a couple more for Instagram.
Speaker 1:For all the Liverpool fans out there. I've got this top squad 2005 Champions League final Obviously a big, big moment in the club's history. I remember watching it in a music venue in Brighton and we were 3-0 down and obviously we won on penalties. Got a historic captain there, gerrard as well, and the main talking point which you've, which I've spoken to a lot of people about I don't know the name of it, so it's like a dual, it's a linear oh yeah, you were showing me. Yeah, you've got Gerrard there. And if you turn it one way or the other, it's another player, harvey Elliott. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 2:Have you Nick nah it's going to be busy that's for sure, trying to get a good picture of sides, but yeah, super cool card, lineage, card um lineage pack I've got a michael jordan card, a little bit like that, but it looks like when you look at it, when the light's not on, it just looks like a blank silver card and then you slightly turn it and you can see all the color and stuff like that, but it's not where you've got like two different people on the car.
Speaker 3:That's pretty cool, to be fair yeah, in the 90s they came out with quite a few of those in the basketball, like holograph, yeah, but, as you say, it wasn't two different players, it was kind of just the player moved.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, I think I had them. I think a couple of them from the world cup 94. I think I had, like what you said, nick the hologram, like it showed them, like running or moving or whatever. Um, but I've never seen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a two face card unless you've got like the player that you love, and then you twist it and you're like oh no well and, funnily enough, he's just been loaned out.
Speaker 1:So there's the irony in that. Yeah, so that's that. Was that you for?
Speaker 2:mail day, Mark, was it.
Speaker 1:That was, yeah, busy, busy, busy week. I've bought some other bits, but it's in relation.
Speaker 2:it's the tops which I'll get onto later on in the get into your mail day, and that just. I just wanted to have a little chat about uh.
Speaker 3:Did you listen to last week's podcast with stew, by any chance? I listened to a little bit. Yeah, they got bored. No, I just ran out of time. I'll be honest prepping for your, for my uh, for my uh uh appearance. This week just spent prepping.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if I mean Stu was saying last week this is something that we'll speak to Stu next time about, but it's just something that I found quite interesting. I think I addressed it a little bit on the pod, but I find it. I still find it not sure I can fully get my head around the fact that he all his breaks are random, random teams, um it. Now, it's interesting because obviously with football in the uk it's massive. So I would imagine the answer is as simple as the fact that all, mainly all, his punters are football. Um, but if I was there, um, I don't know about you, mark, I know you're, you're collecting a lot more than just, say, liverpool. But for me the reason I couldn't go into his breaks you know I might do one or two is because I don't want all the other teams.
Speaker 2:I've been thinking about that quite a lot this week, um, but obviously his system works for him. So the whole time he's got people that are buying in, that are happy to do randoms. Then he's got no problems. He's thriving and he obviously is. That's good. But I still feel like there's going to be people like me who don't want. Who should I insult this week? Fulham, you know.
Speaker 1:Really good.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't want Harry Maguire, you know Harry Maguire card. But yeah, what are your thoughts? Because we obviously with with KCC and Carl Crazy. You do get some, don't you? But that's mainly, I find, when there's a new product and the checklist isn't out, so they can't do the individual pricing. So you might get a few early randoms and there's maybe some fillers, but generally it's py2 yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I think it just flattens out the pricing a little bit and you're I guess it's like anything you you take that chance to try and hit one of the big teams that you actually want, um, or taking, I quite like, I don't mind the 10 uh, the 10 team randoms for football, because you know you're going to get one or two potentially decent teams and players are changing, and even from 2023-24 to 2024-25 for the teams. Now for football, no one wanted Cleveland Browns last year and now they're the most expensive this year, obviously with my draft picks and things like that. So, yeah, I agree, but football for me, or NFL that I mainly collect, I like players across pretty much every team. So, yeah, it depends if you're happy to have that random, but also that shot at trying to get one of those big teams to get some of those big cards as well. It's that rush right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I was saying the other week as well. I think we've grown up, mark, on football. We love it. I'm Liverpool through and through and that obviously has an impact on who I want to collect or who I want in the collection. But with NFL, yeah, I love Seahawks, but then I've got like my, I've got my.
Speaker 2:I've got a weird PC of Garrett from Browns, miles Garrett. I don't know why I started pc and him, but it's one I've actually kept quiet. But I think it was originally stemmed from a kcc break early on when I got an alphas like an insert and it was just a lovely car. I should have bought it along, actually, but it was such a nice card. I just started collecting miles garrett, um, and I've never really spoke too much about that um. But yeah've got a Tua Tagovailoa one, which obviously is going to start to crash now.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like you're saying, there there's more. There's so many more players that I'd want in my PC from NFL than football. But obviously, with what we experience here, like it's, you get that. It's probably quite a healthy blend. So, like you're saying, when you get them 10, when there's 10 teams, we're getting like 3 and if you get a combo team. You're maybe getting 4 teams. It's pretty decent, especially if you then pull one of the big teams. But then some of those cards you'd use for trade bait, wouldn't you? Or or something like that. But yeah, just football. I can't, because he says he's strictly random. It obviously works, but he's obviously got more. Um, I don't think there's a lot of premier league breaks here, I think. Is it blunt? Is it blunt? What are they called Blunt?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Blunt yeah.
Speaker 2:They do some football breaks, but I don't think it's hugely common.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But it'd be interesting to see if he ever decides to do a PYT.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I jumped into his WhatsApp group the other day. It's good. There's a lot of interactions between people.
Speaker 2:I think that's like. I bet he's gone quiet today, though, isn't he? After Chelsea's result yesterday?
Speaker 1:I'm sure he's gone a bit quiet as well after that late goal from Carvalho, which I was very happy about. But yeah, the community's really good people put cards in to the group to say, look anyone interested in buying this, and um, I think there was every time he messages about like the breaks, there's five spots left. Yeah, they seem to be snapped up there about within the next, I don't know very, very quickly. So, um, yeah, it seems to be working.
Speaker 1:Fine, yeah, yeah I guess why, why, why? So? Yeah, I guess why fix it if it's not breaking right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, yeah, anyway, I've moved off topic there. Nick, are you happy to chat about mail day, shop day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I had. So I jumped into Dime City. They do a draft style break so I quite like that. I know not big on NBA, but I quite like following some of the rookies. So he's a Bub Carrington rookie auto to 35.
Speaker 2:So I was 10th.
Speaker 3:So they do random order for a draft break, which is quite cool. So you know, whoever random number gets number one gets to select which team they want. And we've talked a bit about ben and I have talked about nfl trying to get something in terms of a draft break for that, because I love fantasy football and we've just started fantasy football league with kcc as well. So that's that style of hey, I've landed the 10th pick, I've got 20 teams to pick. Who am I going to pick? So, yeah, I picked up the wizards young team, so it's quite cool to hit one of the autos for them. Yeah, it's a nice little car that, yeah. Also, yeah, I have actually just sold that, but it came in.
Speaker 3:It's my first I sent off to get graded. So you see, you actually sent that off yourself, didn't you? Yes, I sent it off through a guy, sam, who does PSA and Beckett grading in new zealand, so took a few months because we send it off especially with tariffs and things now, so it's a bit more expensive off to america and then arrive, um. So I was pretty stoked 10 autograph, pretty stoked 10 autograph. But I'm not a big collector of zion, so I got that card as well in a repack through dime city, which was quite cool. Um, and it's probably one of the. I got a also a larry bird through them, which is probably one of the cards I kind of regret selling, because I was got to the point where I was like I'm just just gonna collect football when you're trying to learn at the start. So, yeah, sent that off in January. Yeah, just come back. So anything?
Speaker 2:have you had anything from the breaks this?
Speaker 3:week. No, I've been dry on breaks.
Speaker 2:I saw, I saw you've gone into a few recently, haven't you? Are you in the Origins, one that's not filled yet for?
Speaker 3:Car Crazy. No, I got NT. I got Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a filler brake for NT, so that could be chasing a Bucky Irving. So I quite like Bucky as well. I think we talked fantasy football and who I collect. Whatever players I pick up in fantasy as well, I then try and collect them as well that's not a bad show actually.
Speaker 2:Just try and get a card for each, because this is my, I think you. A card for each, because this is my. I think you've done it before, but this is my first one, so I might do that, although I've got about four Seahawks players, which is probably going to. I'm probably going to suffer for that, I think, and I don't know what I'm doing either. I accidentally dropped a player the other day and realised I've now dropped him out of my team. Yeah, and you can't just pick someone up, can you? I went, I started. I've obviously learned about the waiver thing now, so I've learned the hard way. But I got a lucky win though my first week, because you go head to head, don't you? So it's not like your overall fantasy points. I didn't realise that either, but I literally beat whoever I was up against with.
Speaker 3:A late roma dunes touchdown got me just enough points to win the week and that's what I like about fantasy footballing and collecting cards as well as, yeah, fantasy football gets you to watch all the games rather than. You know I support the eagles, I used to just watch the eagles. Now you end up watching red zone on a get up monday mornings, always just watching football and then and then it then flows into card collecting and you know you get to know players better, how they're tracking, how they're going for a season, so then you can target them a little bit better in breaks or buying cards as well.
Speaker 2:It makes it more fascinating, I tell you, especially the players. You've decided to PC as well. Just watching how they perform in a game is, then, important to PC. Because when I did my, when I did the national treasures one a while back I mean, but in the first one I got a Tariq Woolen um, I don't think it was on card, but it was a nice Tariq Woolen card and he's fucking shite.
Speaker 2:In week one when he, like, arguably, was a contributing factor to us losing the game and there's talk of him being dropped and I'm like, oh, don't drop him, I've got a nice, I've got a nice woolen card. It's all I need. And then I've just put I've just put a um, I've got a couple of nice kenneth walker on car, two on card, uh, rpas, and there's now talk of Charbonnet being the number one running back. Couldn't be any worse week one. But yeah, so yeah, it's definitely more fascinating. And, like you said, there, with the fantasy, I've been what we were saying as well, because Mark's a Packers fan. So I watched the Green Bay game the other day. It was good. They look seriously good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1:I've just. Yeah, obviously I said last week that I wanted to get back into it and I watched that whole match, so they do so. The Red Zone in the UK is no longer on BBC they don't do it, so it's now moved to Channel 5. Oh yes, bit of a budget TV station in the UK, not great, but Domo Leary is presenting it and they've got a good little set-up. So they pick one match a week and they play it live and they do get some highlights from the other games. I was lucky that the first match they covered was the Packers winning, so I really enjoyed it Looking through the Green Bay cards that you sent me.
Speaker 1:They mean a lot more. Now do you know what I mean after watching the game, watching how Jordan loved players in a bit more detail. I think he's really a bit special talent.
Speaker 1:But yeah, this is going to delve me into the NFL and make it for us as well, yeah, played a big part in the match, but yeah, it was just nice to watch it all because I was watching it and then my wife came in and she got involved and she quite liked it and she's very much always stop start, isn't it? It's not like the premier league. I was like no, it's a different sport, um, and I had to explain. It's much more rounds and and offensive defense and um, but it was quite fun to sort of get back into it because then I had to relay how the sport works to her and then obviously, the cards that you said I think it's a deep tiff day.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, 100%, Because you get.
Speaker 2:Especially with people that don't know a lot about it. First instinct's to say, oh, it's stop, start, stop, start. But then they'll sit down and go right. Well, let's watch this set of downs, and then it either comes or it doesn't, and they go. I'll watch one more, and then you watch that and you're like.
Speaker 2:I'll just see what they do and that's how it, because every single play there's like objective, isn't like every play, whereas the premier league you can, they can play it around for a bit and because it constantly flows, um, I feel that especially maybe if it's not your team it's different if your team, but you can take your eyes off it a little bit whereas with um nfl, like once you're, once they're ready at the snap and they're about to go, there's a. You know there's a key objective for those plays, yeah, whereas if you're watching football, for example, you know they might be playing it around at the back for a while, or it goes up the other end, up, back up the other end. It's a bit more uh, what word I'm looking for? There's not, there's not a, there's not like a lot of objective in it, you know, at a given moment. I don't know if that makes sense, but yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2:I just think it holds my attention more.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, years ago I bought her a Dolphins jumper because she was like I said, if you had to pick an NFL team, who would it be? And then we went through the list and she said I like Dolphins generally as animals, so that was her team. And then I think they got punked by the colts. I think like, I think like 33, six or something.
Speaker 2:um, first, game, but she'll land. That's why I'm a pick bears. Just literally.
Speaker 3:Like the logo went off, I'll back bears yeah, there's also miami's good city to go to, and chicago is a good city to go to. So yeah, that's true yeah yeah, well, yeah, you can end up in Cleveland or somewhere like that, not, but yeah um, nick, should we?
Speaker 2:uh, let's have a little segue into not to get that in there, uh, into your PC, and we'll ask you some questions? So I think we. Yeah, let's start with your.
Speaker 3:What you collect, how long you've been collecting uh, so I've been collecting, I guess again about 12 months, um got back into it. I kind of watched that king of collectibles on netflix, yeah, and I clicked it as a kid. Basketball, um, like a lot of Shaquille O'Neal, and I think it just got put in shoeboxes and parents place and things like that. And then I love sports memorabilia. I lived in the states for just about a year and a half, so huge into football, nba, nhl, anything American sport, baseball as well, but Eagles was my team where did you live in the states?
Speaker 3:yeah, I lived well.
Speaker 3:My brother went to university in Philadelphia, so I went over as an 18-year-old went and visited him and he took me to a few Eagles games. And then I went back as a 21-year-old. I went and played rugby up in Boston for a year, saw some Patriots, saw some Patriots. I watched Brady play against the Tennessee Titans. Actually they won, I think it was like 48-7, and it was in a blizzard. Yeah, through I think five touchdowns, I think two or three to Randy Moss. There was me and another Kiwi. It was like minus five minus 10 degrees. Everyone had left the stadium because it was a blowout. But we're like no, we've paid our tickets, we'll stay here.
Speaker 3:so I love, just love anything football really. But eagles been my team so, um, about a year ago yeah, watch that king of collectibles I'm like what's an easy way to kind of get signatures and memorabilia of teams that you know I really like. So that's where cards came into it and jumped into dime city, their breaks uh, I didn't know there was any foul breaks at that stage, so I just jumped into an nba break, just top anyone. I think I ended up with the Phoenix Suns Got no cards and I think it was only Origins break, so there was only five or six cards Got nothing.
Speaker 3:I was like, oh well, this is a bit I'm not sure about this. But then I saw the NFL as well, so jumped into a few of their breaks and it kind of snowballed from there out of Facebook, talking to those guys in Dime City they're real good lads as well Just telling you how breaks work. Then it just escalated from there over the last 12 months I think that's about the same time. Ben kind of got in involved and we started chatting as well, bought a jefferson, justin jefferson uptown off you and we, uh, did a deal there.
Speaker 2:so, um, that's quite a few.
Speaker 3:I think over the time yeah yeah yeah, I think again Justin Jefferson, one of my favorite players in fantasy football, and he's in one of my teams at the moment as well, so I mean the in the KCC one yeah, yeah, I got him in KCC so unfortunately I had to.
Speaker 3:I guess my other big passion is cycling. So I and was in the new zealand high performance, uh, paracycling team, so um, a lot of my money, sometimes that cards kind of help to fund my other expensive hobby of cycling, which has been awesome, because then you know things kind of fluctuate and pricing, you sell things and, um, buy other things and then hope get lucky in a few breaks as well yeah, cycling's not cheap, is it?
Speaker 3:no, it's almost as much to service your bike as it is your car. Yeah, yeah, selling, yeah, selling a car is sometimes a bit easier than asking your wife for money to the same amount to service your car as, yeah, service your bike.
Speaker 2:You'll know you're in trouble with the cars if you start selling your bike to fund your car.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's in trouble there. I don't think I'm far off that. I was saying about three pods ago I needed some new boxer shorts. I hadn't bought any since I moved here, so I bought a load over with me and I just kept putting it off because I was like that's card money. It was down to about three pairs. I didn't want to spend the card money, but yeah, so what's your? What's your um? Absolute banger from your, your pc? What's your pride and joy?
Speaker 3:um, I think it's probably. Yeah, like one I've been chasing for a while is a cooper dejean is that clearly?
Speaker 2:is it? Or yeah, it's clearly?
Speaker 3:it's real cool, nice, um. So it's hard man chasing, say, like you buy the seahawks or I buy the eagles, and so many breaks and you end up with about seven or eight will shipley auto cards. He's an awesome player, but he's backing up saquon barkley, so, and you know, all you wanted was a cooper de jean and um, so I finally hit one of those and a card. Crazy bake. I was pretty stoked.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, are you going to get that one graded or or no.
Speaker 3:I think I'll just leave it raw. Yeah, um, again, it's like weighing up that cost now from new zealand to send things off. I know, uh, we can grade them here, but I quite like them in the one touches, so I kind of leave them in the one.
Speaker 2:All my stuff and one touches we've had that discussion, haven't we, where I was saying that I've got a weird. You like them without stickers across the magnet, but I like them with stickers because I don't like the gold, um, and I find that stuff fascinating because it's all kind of it's interesting how people want to display things and how people want to store things. But I found that amusing at the time that you like I said you like the seeing the magnet, but I I'd hate seeing it. I'd rather see, I'd rather put any sticker over it and see that. But if the magnet was silver I wouldn't. It wouldn't bother me weird isn't it?
Speaker 3:yeah, I guess it's those preference. That's what you want to look at it when you display it right yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I like the, the PCG here in Auckland for grading, because I think the slabs are awesome and I'll just start stuff I know that I want to keep in my PC. I just pay I think it's $25 a card, which in England is about £12.50, £12. So I have it slabbed and they put the authentication or whatever. But then I think it looks quite nice in the slabs. So I think most of the stuff I know I'm going to keep, I'll do that and then if I've got something like really nice, I might grade.
Speaker 2:But there's always that risk, isn't there? Like I've been quite lucky with the ones I have graded, but then I've got a couple of nines and I'm falling into that trap of I don't know if there's a right expression, but like grading snobbery, where I'm pissed off that it's a 9. But I feel like that's because in reality with my eyes I can't tell. So one of the ones that came back as a 9 to me looks perfect, but the fact it's got a 9 written on it I'd be happier if it had a bloody A on it. But yeah, that's the weird. I guess that's the weird preferences again, isn't it like what you like and what you don't like? Nick?
Speaker 1:is that? Are you going to?
Speaker 2:send something sorry.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I'm looking at some of these. I've got my box out of cards and I was thinking about yeah, send some off actually at some point soon. Yeah, it's just about how many I send off and how much is it going to cost. That's probably what I need to pick.
Speaker 2:There's a company in the UK, isn't it that do the? Because I think you know Wadey's been messaging us on Instagram. He sent one off to the, the company. They customized the tag so they make it look like the card as well, so that looks really cool. He sent me an image through Instagram of one that he had done. I think it came back as a nine, but the label was customized to the team. I can't remember if they laughed me what the card was, but let's have a look. But that was quite good and I think early on I'd message you to say maybe check these out because it'd be quite good to see for you to, yeah, send something off and see you know what you think yeah, 100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I'll pick like a handful, maybe three or five or something, and send them off.
Speaker 3:But, um, yeah, yeah, someone said to me like sending off, sending off like um, like beckett, they have the. They grade the auto as well. Yeah, um, and you can with, I guess, psa, yeah, but yeah, so I got a drake, may as well 10. Oh, nice, um, did you send?
Speaker 2:that off or buy it.
Speaker 3:No, I traded that that's nice, but it's yeah because I got that out. Because you're going to talk about base cards, I see yeah, but I think from New Zealand it's quite tough to send cards off, especially to PSA. It can be quite expensive to see what grade. I think it's exactly that you want to add value with psa or with beckett. That was my thought process. If you're potentially going to sell it in the future, you want a high grade. If it's for your pc, then that's me. I like him in a one touch and just leave them as is. But some people like ungraded cards. They see them as higher value than they had. A couple of people say, oh no, I don't want. I want that card but not in a slab. So it comes back to personal preference, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. Well, I think I think as well, like in terms of if you're selling it or you're trying to make you or you're trying to make money, then sometimes a raw card could be more valuable than a 9, for example. But I don't know, I've not been in the hobby long enough to, I guess, have opinion on that. I just think, like the cards, I know that I'm definitely and weirdly like the ones I sent off a lot to be authenticated just to be put in a slab, are like low numbered. So I sent off the two um dream weavers I had which were numbered to four um, and I know that I'm not gonna, I'm more, I'm gonna want them in my. So I didn't see the point.
Speaker 2:But because I like them in a slab, that's why I opted to go for just the authentication, because that gets them slapped, whereas if I'd sent them off and they graded them, say a nine or an eight, it would piss me off having them in and I don't know why that is. I'm not 100 sure why that is um. So it's easier just to get the a um, it's easier just to get the a um. But like you, you know, I got that um romadoons color blast and that got sent off and that's a 10 which obviously I remember the time I was worried because it had I thought it had a print line through it shows what I know, but uh, obviously I was chuffed about it, but I I can't see that if someone wanted that, the fact that I've chosen pcg over, say, psa, I feel like you'd still get a sale.
Speaker 2:It might limit the amount of people, though, say, I auctioned it on ebay, you might have people that, oh, it's not psa, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to look at it, but I still ultimately feel that you'd get what you'd want for it because there's going to be a buyer for it. It's been graded out of 10. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3:yeah I think, yeah, I think it's exactly there, like if someone wants to buy the card, it's like any sale, right, they'll pay the price that they want for it. I think, yeah, I think, pcg, they look real nice cards but obviously, being in new zealand, potentially in it in the states, if someone was buying it, being an unknown grading company, they might go okay, I don't, I'm not gonna pay what. I think it would be for a psa. Again, you don't know until you get that feedback right. Well, they might go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go for it I still think the psa slabs are the nicest slabs, though out of all of them they I quite like them as small as possible, so they're quite thin, they're quite close to the cards, whereas even the pcg ones are quite nice. To be fair, um, I'll, I'll probably put them in at second out of the ones I've got. I don't like the SCG with the black about the black infills, but I think they're owned by PSA. Now anyway, aren't they?
Speaker 3:they've been bought, they've been bought out, but now it's been cool, uh yeah, collecting, collecting eagles cards, and that's probably a majority of my. It's a pc and I don't mind. I've tried to collect every player almost from the superbowl winning team. That's, I guess, a side collection as well. And then my other collection, which you've helped me with as well, ben, is, uh, our contours. Yeah yeah. So it's been quite cool. We're getting a stack of them, so yeah who are you missing?
Speaker 2:who are we missing?
Speaker 3:uh, mecca parsons missus jamaa chase my homes Mika Parsons, Misson, Jemar Chase, Mahomes. There's about 11 at the moment.
Speaker 2:Are you exclusively trying to trade for them, or are you going to look to buy some?
Speaker 3:No, I'm happy to buy or trade. I haven't had a look overseas yet. I've put it on hold for a little bit and then I was like, okay, now's the time. I put a post out and got another couple.
Speaker 2:This week Ty J Spears and then Nick from KCC had a couple as well, I saw the Spears come out in a break, but I think someone else messaged you about that, didn't they?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Bricks. Yeah, he didn't even know he had it. It was his brother who said hey, I think you've got a tie, Ty J Spears, he's. I got the Titans in a break. I didn't even watch it.
Speaker 2:When I go over to the UK, we'll get an update of where you are and see, because me and Mark are going to go to some card shops. We'll see if we can pick some up as well, That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah we're getting there. It it's like it's been fun, it's just something. I kind of got tour three of them, um, and then I was like that's the cool looking cards, so lovely cards. I'll just if I can get one of each, doesn't matter whether they're like the international or um or an insert or anything.
Speaker 2:Just get the players, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, they're not. I quite like the Because I really enjoyed those cards this year and obviously I only got into it really from January. I wanted to see if there was JSM ones, but there was from the previous year, but they're quite nice as well. So they've got the different coloured borders around around them, but they're quite simple cards, which is quite why I quite look sort of quite like them.
Speaker 3:Um, so I've got, I think, three or four jsn consoles from 23 um yeah, it'll be interesting, like that's why you hear that talk around panini for nfl. I feel like I'm just getting into the swing of what I kind of like and the sets that I want to change and then it's all going to change.
Speaker 2:I think nba is changing pretty soon or, yeah, next month I put on here that on, uh, the information I sent out, but the I was reading I was actually listening to a podcast and it was sports card nonsense or something but they or someone was saying that the contract is a 20 year contract and I was reading an article, I think, from the Washington Post or something about how long this has been going on for. So it said in there that I think it was in 2020. I'm gonna say allegedly so we don't get in any trouble but allegedly Fanatic started poaching a lot of panini staff and there was a whole carry-on about some hard drives or something where they had taken hard drives and, um, you know, with secrets about how they print and stuff like that to fanatics and stuff like that. But it was over a like a couple of, like a one or two week period where they'd taken these stuff, so.
Speaker 2:So it looked like they knew what was happening and then started to try and poach people, which is to be expected, yeah, but I didn't realise until the other week that the contract was I think it's separate ones, isn't it with the NIL or whatever, or the players, and then there's like a 20-year I think that might be 10 years, and then there's like a 20-year contract to do the NFL, so without years, and there's like a 20 year contract to do, uh, the nfl um, so without knowing the details, you can see why there's concern from panini about a monopoly, I guess, in the market um. But like you, I've only just got into it, started to know the products and the cards and then it's, it's all going to change to topsps.
Speaker 1:It's quite exciting I guess.
Speaker 3:Yeah, some of the Topps cards are pretty cool.
Speaker 1:There'll probably be a new foot special coming up.
Speaker 2:You like Topps though, Mark, don don't you so happy days I do.
Speaker 1:but I guess, like for me it was match attacks. Then straight into Topps. I liked Topps Chrome and then I was like I went down that path to just really enjoying Topps stuff. I'm sure at some point down the line I'll probably go into Panini at some point and be like, oh, this is amazing as well because it's sort of new to me. But yeah, at the moment I really like Topps' product and obviously it's worked out quite well with them taking the Premier League contract over. But yeah, panini will be something that is like in the background for me, but I'll touch on it at some point.
Speaker 2:I reckon it's just wind? Yeah, definitely. I think again, this is, as our whole Kuma Curry cards is all built on us being complete amateurs. So we, you know, half the time we probably talk nonsense. But I just wondered, you know, like 5 to 10 years down the line, you know, if there's still the contracts as it is, because things can change Does the stuff that people hold from Panini does that become, especially if tops is a bit because I read stuff about a lot of people say, like, be careful what you wish for. So people moan about Panini, but you know what are tops going to do? I think people are talking about the frequency in which products come out and that type of thing. So if it isn't going too well from the point of view of the hobby, does what you're holding in terms of panini, does that become more valuable? Does that become more sought after and stuff like that?
Speaker 1:Definitely be interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, definitely be interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, yeah, even now with football, like tops, say, last year's class for football, american football, I should say like Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams only signing for tops. There was a few breaks that Blunt had done for tops that were like the cards are cool, you get the autos of the rookies that you're chasing right. So I think that's where a lot of the value holds of, say, flair back in the day with basketball and things is yeah, you know they're valuable cards, they're rare because they've got an autograph and uh, you know there's only 10 of them and they're a rookie. That's what holds that value. And if they're doing well, so you say if the player's not doing too well, and sometimes I've thought about whether chase rookies or chase veterans that you know uh, already solidified themselves as hall of famers. Yeah, definitely, they're going to hold a lot of value with that, with that card, yeah, with that card, yeah, what?
Speaker 2:so here's one for you then. So again, as novices, you've got Jane and Daniel signed with Topps this year, but obviously unlicensed product. In your opinion, what's more valuable? Because Topps aren't. I heard that Topps I believe this to be true aren't printing any NFL this year, obviously ready for when they get the license next year or I think it's this year, isn't it? By the end of the season. What's more valuable, jadon Daniels' first auto as a licensed card with Topps or his rookie auto unlicensed? What do you reckon is going to be?
Speaker 3:the more sought after card, more value, I'd probably say a rookie, I think, a rookie card just because, yeah, as you say, time will tell um, who knows who knows what? What people, people, people love the license stuff, so some some don't want to have any unlicensed in their collection and would see that as more valuable.
Speaker 2:Jade and daniels you probably get a mixed response, wouldn't you? If you asked the question because we were talking, maybe four or five episodes ago, about the rookie card, weren't we was that? I don't know if that was with dom, but um, and the fascination and and all that sort of thing, I think for me, uh, I would want the licensed card rather than his rookie card, just just in that, in that particular case, because I would sway more towards the licensing being more important than the rookie card. But yeah, I guess none of us are really qualified to answer that long term as to be what would be more valuable, what would hold the you know more importance moving forward. But I think, personally, what do you think, mark?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I the license, the license camp. I like to see everything and I've looked at um. I looked, there was a gerrard unlicensed futera for england and he just had a plain white shirt on. Um, I didn't like, I didn't, I didn't like it. I won't lie um, but again, it's my personal preference, you know, depending something they maybe so was a card to look great unlicensed. I would like it, but I'm always prefer to see, like, yeah, the badge to sponsors and that's yeah, that's my cup of tea yeah, interesting though when it wants to once I got the license, obviously interesting what the product ranges are and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Then you know, perhaps that sort of stuff then becomes more valuable. Um, but yeah, I think, from from my point of view, when I'm looking is, I guess, how my mindset works. But when I'm looking to interact with people on instagram and stuff like that, I try and avoid the people that are just purely there to sell, buy, sell and trade, because get a few messages where people were just asking me am I buying? And stuff like that. Well, maybe, but I'm not specifically buying. So I'm more overall I'm in the camp of uh cards I want, rather than getting too invested in where the value is, and I guess that links into how you decide to display your card and how you just you know where.
Speaker 2:Like to me, it doesn't matter whether I go to PSA really, in the grand scheme of things or Beckett or PCG. Pcg is local, it's easy, it's fairly cheap and I'm gonna get it back quick and I think it looks nice and I think the stage where I am in my Seahawk stuff, I just want it to look nice and and be protected. So I'm more you know I'm not in it at the minute to make money and stuff like that. I think you struggle to do that in New Zealand anyway with it being so small. As much as I'd love to have a card shot, that would be the dream at the minute, but yeah, like the market is just too small here. But yeah, I'm not too invested in the values and things and what affects it at the minute Probably all in that boat. Yeah, absolutely. And things and what affects it at the minute, they're probably all in that boat. Yeah, absolutely Right. New feature time Mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't get to do a soundbite, but all about that bass, there you go. Does that work?
Speaker 2:All about that bass. Yeah. Record it, yeah. I don't think we can get the rights for that Meghan Trainor song. Rights for that Meghan Trainor song. Is it Meghan Trainor?
Speaker 1:it's all about that bass, yeah let's try and the budget again, yeah that would be.
Speaker 2:That would be good to have right now. But yeah, what we were thinking is I guess this stems a a lot from breaks and stuff like that. When you go in or when you buy boxes, nick, you get that buzz to open a box and it usually ends in disappointment and then you've just got a big pile of base cards that you don't particularly want, pile of base cards that you don't particularly want. But again, from being newbies, I'm not 100% sure why people are against base cards, because I've got one here. This is my Elijah Arroyo from Origins that to me, from most other products, looks like a quality insert.
Speaker 2:That's a really nice base card, yeah, and I've actually got quite a lot of base cards in my PC so I want to put a little bit of respect on the base card with this segment. So what we were discussing is both yourself and I each week bringing along a base card that we really like, that we want to add to the Coombe Curry Season 1 Base Card Collection. Any guest we have on will ask to bring a base card along, add to the collection and then prior to Super Bowl Sunday we'll get the bait the best base card graded. Probably PCG also won't be till next year when we're giving it away. We'll get it graded and then we'll do a little competition for anyone who's been listening and we'll give that collection away in a we said a custom Coombe curry sports car binder.
Speaker 2:We did, yeah it'll be a one-on-one binder, if you will a one-on-one binder, yeah, um, and then we'll we'll have a probably a few weeks off after the super bowl and then we'll go with season two and we'll do the same again. So we want it to be a regular thing, um, so I'm going to jump straight in here, I'm going to go first and I'm going to start the collection off with said arroyo card. Rookie, rookie, tight end he's, um, I think he's going to be quite important for the seahawks this year and, like I said, the base card to me from a lot of other products, that is an insert that looks good. Um, nice, thick stock, um. So, yeah, I'm gonna add the for episode, nice, yeah, so especially this is a 2024 panini aj brown.
Speaker 3:So super bowl winning, yes, that's a nice card that um that's.
Speaker 2:That's another product that that that as a car that just looks nice, doesn't it? It's almost too nice to be what does it sound right? And too nice to be treated as a base card that I like it yeah, quite like that nice yes all right, I'll be going with this based on the chat earlier in the green room.
Speaker 1:One of the top class, fabio Carvalho, and the story behind him is obviously just scored. No applies. The last yesterday it's Chelsea, sorry Stu, but as we spoke about it, these cards, the top of class, the cards are really nice.
Speaker 1:It's Canini as well it's nice Going against my tops, but it's a really nice card. I think it's cool. It's a future star. Yeah, as a Liverpool fan, he came from Liverpool. I think he's great, but that's why it's going in. I'll always remember that that went in because he scored an equaliser against Chelsea. So to all the Chelsea fans out there, I like that chin up that top class stuff.
Speaker 2:The card, it's quite fixed. It's really nice, almost like a mat, isn't it like a mat? Top of the material, good quality cards.
Speaker 1:they are like we said previously, wasn't it the quality cards. They are Like we said previously, the quality of the cards is great, so that's why it's going in.
Speaker 2:I suspect we're not going to see them this year, though are we, because it's Panini. So I would imagine the top class is done, isn't it? I think?
Speaker 1:so.
Speaker 2:Might become sought after. So so getting that competition 100%, I'm just going to jump out and jump back in. Oh, we've got some lag, I think. Yeah, aj Brown, I was. What was I watching today? Someone saying that a couple of teams had inquired about a trade.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Howie Roseman's, manager for the Eagles, and yeah, he came out and said a few had inquired and you didn't want to trade AJ Brown. And yeah, howie Roseman's just turned the Eagles around, you know makes pretty bold decisions and you know, taking them to a Super Bowl really, because even when they brought in Jalen Hurts, you know drafted him and they had Carson Wentz and they'd taken him as the second overall pick and then, only a couple of years later, they take Jalen Hurts and now taking them to a Super Bowl. So I'll throw in a base.
Speaker 3:I've got a Jalen Hurts as well, because you can't have one without the other. Oh, nice Select.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love it. To be fair, you've got to be fake over. Jalen hurts in there. I like that. Thanks, nick. There was, I think this is a been mentioned quite a bit, but did you hear or read the article about August being the record month in sales according to card card letter? So put it in a in the in the the planning group in the week, but, um, they were saying that all the sales that reported into them was 416 million for august. Um, I think that's that card that was sold. The dual logo man was 12.9 of that, but even if you take that out, I think that's about 86 million more than july that's ridiculous yeah, again, as novices to me, I find that amazing, like the fact that people are spending that on a card.
Speaker 2:It just shows, you know, the value that's that's actually in this now and um, these podcasts I've been listening to. Obviously you've got people that have been in the hobby for years and they're saying, like you know, the last national you've got they're going around the national and you've got kids in there. They've got cases that have got like 20 grand's worth of harding or stuff like that. Or you've got parents that say their boy's been collecting for X amount of years and he's made about 200K or something like that. I think people are fascinated with the amount of money that's in the card. But you see that a lot with these influencers or whatever they're called, youtubers, who are at these card shows and they've got kids coming up to them and they're saying, oh, you know, know, what were you? You know, I don't even have that money now. You know what I mean. Like not when, I was 12.
Speaker 2:But it's mad the amount of money that's involved. But when I saw those figures, yeah, that's mad, isn't it?
Speaker 3:that's a lot of money even though, like you watch on youtube, I watched a few about the national and that's what they're saying. Even since then to now, like some card values, like a large number of card values, have gone up like I don't know a reasonable percentage, even in the last month. So you can probably see why there's record card sales and now going through because more people are getting into it and card values are actually going up. But I guess it's like any, any commodity right is maybe a rush before pre-season nfl as well, and you know, trying to grab all those quarterbacks that you thought were going to be good week. One same thing probably for the epl as well people rushing to try and grab players that they think will be good this year before they either go well or values keep going up and up. And with the world cup next year as well, sure, people trying to grab stuff early yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2:It's interesting how reactive um, especially the nfl, like how reactive the card prices are to what's going on. Um, there was they. They one of the podcasters too. We're talking about kate. I don't really.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm not really into basketball full stop, but that Caitlin Clark is out now I think there's only two games or two weeks left of the season but straight away people who, because she's obviously a big name, isn't she? And who people collect and some expensive cards. But they were quick to check on the value of her card just after the announcement that she's out with injury, seeing how that would affect the cards. But uh, evidently that's quite stable. But you but, like you know even the example I gave earlier, which is kind of low end in terms of some of these high value quarterbacks, but tarik woolen for seahawks going into the season, you know he has one game where he makes two errors and there's already talk of him not starting or possibly surplus to requirements. And then you add that other guy in that same game, the kicker something Mooney, was it for 49ers who missed those first two kicks, and he's gone. Now he's done. So it can be quite ruthless, can't it?
Speaker 3:it not that anyone was probably pc in that guy, but um, it just shows how quickly things change yeah, I think that's the difference between, like established players, as you say, those that could go into the hall of fame, and getting getting some of their rookie cards. But then you also want to take a shot on rookies this year, see whether, hey, could they be the next mahomes, and things like that being able to hold those cards for a long period of time yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm hoping for, jalen Milrow. I've got a non-card origins auto coming from in the state. That's what. That's what I had.
Speaker 3:A good run of brakes for Seahawks oh, yeah, I've got a.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I've talked about this one showing it, but that's the patch from the other Arroyo card, but that's really, yeah, absolutely chuffed with that. And I got, I bought this one from either Sam Darnold I don't know if it's focused up or not but that's out of 99, but that's again. If you there's the base card, this is what I was talking about. It's to me that's. In some ways you could argue that's nicer than the blue card, but I like the blue colour match. I'm not going to go hard on Sam Darnold, I don't think, but I've got a couple of decent cards already. And then the Kenneth Walker patch. And then here you go. Nick little, when we do a Never Say Also, I'll give you this. But there's the Will Shipley gift.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a nice card, that isn't it? That's the Will Shipley you were talking about. It's always a Will Shipley. It's a lovely card. It's like one of those hypers as well. I don't know if you can see that on the camera. It's a nice card, very nice. It's a nice card Very nice. Yeah, so that's the new feature. All about that bass Mark, you're going to have to do a little sound bite for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've actually got coming next week a I don't know what you'd call it. It's like a square soundboard. Oh yeah, so I could change my voice and stuff like that. So I'll have a bit of fun with that.
Speaker 2:Get a nice little soundbite in there for that, let's see if we can get the rights to that song.
Speaker 1:Or we could just slow it down. That's what people do when they haven't got the copyrights, and they slow it down fast. Speed up the track. It's not the same. Or we could just sing it ourselves, I guess. Yeah, do a rendition if you want.
Speaker 2:On a slightly different note, I'm just going to show you something. I've got two medals this weekend. Look, we're reffing cup finals.
Speaker 2:Very nice, how'd that go yeah, oh good, mate, I did a Masters final. I was in the middle, yeah, that one, I had to focus it up. It says Masters Cup Official. And then I was an AR for Nielsen Cup final. So yeah, good quality medals. And then I was an AR for Nielsen Cup final, so yeah, but these are good quality medals, aren't they? Look at them. Yeah, I didn't know I was gonna get a medal, but I was chuffed with that. So they're the.
Speaker 2:I've done three finals this year. The first one, I didn't get a medal for bit disappointed. Now I've seen these. They definitely stepped their game up. Yeah, but I'm a bit. I'm quite, quite chuffed with those. But yeah, my final where I was in the middle was uneventful.
Speaker 2:And the other one was until we had a substitute walk round the pitch. He left the dugout, walked round the pitch. He left the dugout, walked round the pitch and we had comms. So I said to the ref next time it goes out, hold the play. And I said I'll get him to go back. And he said, yeah, fine, but then they scored. So the substitute's now made his way. He's behind me and their whole team's celebrating, because the team was made up predominantly of Colombians and it was like a bloody carnival behind me, like literally like banging instruments and flags up the lot, and they've gone over to celebrate with their fans.
Speaker 2:So I'm trying to get them to come back on the pitch and then for some bizarre reason, the guy bearing in mind the whole game had been played in a friendly spirit decides to stand next to me and stick his middle finger up at the opposition. So I said to the ref, I said come and talk to me in a second, come and talk to me. We've got him on the pitch. And I just said to him he's just stood there celebrating and then basically swore at the opposition. So the ref sent him off, gave him straight red and then, and then he asked him to leave and he told the ref to fuck off. So he gave him another red card and, the best bit of all, because he's a sub, he's got a bib on so he can't see his number. So me and the ref are saying what's your number? What's your number? I don't think he can speak English. He then grabs his balls and goes that's my number, I don't think he can speak English. He then grabs his balls and goes that's my number. Third red card. So I've never seen that before. He was given three red cards. So he next season will not be playing for quite some time after that.
Speaker 2:Um, pretty, yeah, fairly entertaining way to end the game, and then he refused to leave the pitch. So, um, drama, yeah, all good fun, yeah, um. What's funny, though, is, uh, the two guys um the ref and the other ar. Earlier in the season we did a game I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast, but I was in the middle and they were both ARs and I gave three red cards in one incident. So it seems every time we're together that was our second game where we've all been together there's always some sort of drama.
Speaker 2:Yeah, running theme, yeah, but there was two red cards for violent conduct and then one for something that he said to a player. There was an alleged comment made. I went and asked the player and, to be fair, he admitted to saying it, so I gave him a red card cards like it's Christmas.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, you see us as the officials. You best be on your best behaviour. But yeah, other than that, it went well. But yeah, I don't know if I'm just too. Yeah, I've not left these medals alone, to be honest, but I chuffed with that nice mate. Well done, second season in already reffing cup final, so quite pleased doing something. Right, mark? Let's end with Hobbybox.
Speaker 1:Hobbybox yeah, hobbybox. Going back to the top screen, really, yeah, just looks like there's going to be a. You know I've never bought a Hobby Box, but for the price it is and for what you should get that's guaranteed in it it looks like it'll be worth worth the price. So yeah, I'll keep you posted on that. But it's up for pre-order now, so yeah.
Speaker 2:I've got the checklist here, so in the Hobby Box, at least autograph, two other hits, four numbered parallels and a Chrome Kings insert too. Very nice, it's got to be done, isn't it?
Speaker 1:You've got to buy a box, I think so, yeah, I've just bought what I alluded to earlier. I bought something else which is in the garage and I'm saving it till till christmas. Reason being it is a ops advent calendar. Oh yeah, so it's essentially yeah, this it's pretty big um and it folds out and under each number for christmas you have like a five-pack top premier league um, which I'm actually buzzing for, um, yeah, and you also get like a pack of they're called like freeze three stars or something like that um, and they can double up as um christmas tree ornaments. So they've got a hole in the top. You could technically hang them up if I wanted to, but I'm absolutely buzzing for that because it's sold out quite quickly so you've got that already yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 1:It's in the garage. Wife didn't see it, so looking forward to whipping that out on the 1st of December surprise. But yeah, obviously people have already bought it and they've started opening it, so it looks really good and obviously you can still pull anything. Anything could be in there. But yeah, five cards a day and then a separate pack of the threes like collection. So yeah, it's really good. I've actually pulled my fifth numbered card from my retail pack. I've got Rodri from man City, oh nice.
Speaker 2:It's my highest numbered card.
Speaker 1:It's up to 499. Yeah, but it's still a buzz, because I hadn't pulled anything for a while from the retail packs and I was getting a bit disheartened. But yeah, that's's my collection, so that's good.
Speaker 2:Nick, what does your missus think about the cast?
Speaker 3:she's just happy I'm keeping her yes, yes, not too bothered. Yeah, yeah, so my, my wife's from just south of Newcastle, so she's not. She's happy that I follow something. It's like fantasy football. She's like I find draft day on fantasy football. I said, oh, it's just like Christmas.
Speaker 2:Good fun innit, yeah. And it's like mail day something comes along, it's like Christmas, right yeah you can't beat the feeling, you cannot beat that feeling, and that's, I think, the same thing with breaks and things, you kind of.
Speaker 3:I think we talked a little bit before as whether it was addictive or not, and it kind of got to that point where you're going, okay, I want to keep chasing downtowns and things like that. But yeah, I've kind of pulled back, uh, probably the last month or or so. It's kind of that downtown or the color blasts, it's kind of died down and fantasy football started and that kind of took up a lot of my funds and time as well, but keeps you out of trouble collecting things like you're not spending your money on anything else if you're spending it on cards yeah, just probably spending too much of it, though, to be fair, that fantasy draft though the fantasy draft was.
Speaker 2:I loved that, mate. It's interesting. Some people have obviously either put their list on and then done it on auto, but I was trying to take my time as if I was properly in the draft, but what an absolute buzz that was. That was probably more fun than probably the rest of the fantasy for me. Loved it? Yeah, it is, and it's probably good rest of the fantasy for me.
Speaker 3:I've loved it. Yeah, it is. And it's probably good timing with the cards, because I've got three leagues, so you know $50 buy-in to each and then KCC was what $20, I think. So it's like I get my pocket money fortnightly for cards or things that I want to spend on, so I had the rein in cards.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to every day like fortnight, but I think I've got about in my let's call it my pocket money account. I think I've got $5 to last me three days, then I'll get a reset. It's really coming into that three days now for a lot of people where that's probably why the breaks are slowing up, and then after Wednesday or whenever payday is, you probably get a massive surge again. Even that card, crazy Origins one's taken a while to fill. Everyone's got like two or three dollars left paid and we'll be back in the game back in the game?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think, then I'm just looking through our list that we are there or thereabouts. Have anything else we want to cover, mark Nick?
Speaker 1:no other tops thing I was gonna say is they've got this golden boot coming up. I pre-ordered one, I know, that's why I thought I'd bring it up, hasn't.
Speaker 2:What's in that? I don't know some cards. I think it's in the shape of a golden boot. I bloody hope so.
Speaker 1:It's in the shape of a golden boot, which is pretty cool. I think you receive a box of cards in a golden boot, which is obviously the top gold scorer right and in the competition I paid a deposit for it.
Speaker 2:So I've paid. I've got that. I've got an eco pack and uh, like a what they call it. I'm just having a look on my email now but I think it's like yeah, an eco pack, is it starter kit or something?
Speaker 1:Yeah, starter pack yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Does that?
Speaker 1:sound right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't find it at the minute, but yeah it's, I sent you a screenshot, didn't I? Here we go, here we go, hold on. The golden cream is great. Premier League super tin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I am. That's what I got this week. Yeah, quite sick. Oh yeah, that's what I got this week. Yeah, quite a big tin. What's in it? Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, I don't need all of these tins to take up so much room.
Speaker 2:Yeah can't say no to a tin, can you? You can't. No, I like a good tin. It's got bits and pieces in it, yeah, so I've got my ecoPak Supertin and a Golden Boot.
Speaker 1:I can't wait for you to take them because you're fresh to the EPL Topps products. So that would be great.
Speaker 2:It would be interesting because the cards look great. Even that numbered card there that you had, even though it was rodry um, but the card looked nice. That looked like a like a cracked ice type design. But we I know we say this probably quite boring like every episode, but like to to get stuff like that out of retail stuff that's like reasonably priced. They're good quality cards, yeah 100 so I'm, yeah, looking forward to that. Um, yeah, we talked about.
Speaker 3:Like sometimes some of the mid value stuff gives you, or lower value stuff gives you, a lot more value than like some of the high end stuff where you're paying four or five thousand. Like, yeah, you can get a lot of high-end cards but a lot of the breaks that we watch, you get maybe 150 or 200 dollars worth of cards out of a $4,000 box. It's like out of a cheaper box you can get almost sometimes the same amount of value, if not more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was watching the the origins break from KCC last night, was it? Or the night before, and it kind of made me chuckle because the way it goes sometimes he did two minis for that and a closer and I'd have to watch it again. But I'm pretty sure that Because I got Giants from one of the mini and I got dolphins, I think, from one of the others, but everyone, I think, who got a team from the minis and a closer didn't get a card from the actual thing. So kind of. I know the point of it is to pay for the box, to get the money in, but just kind of.
Speaker 2:You know there's a lot of work that goes in from the breaker, in this case nick at kcc, to fill those those spots up and then run the randoms to to see who wins those teams and the minis and closes.
Speaker 2:But then because it's one of them products where you've only got is it, was it six cards, seven cards, um cards, to not have one of them teams come out in that kind of. I know it's not pointless and I know it's why it happens, but it just made me chuckle a little bit. And that is the game of breaking, isn't it? You can put a lot of money in and get nothing. Or you know, in the one where I won Giants, I only bought one entry into that where other teams bought or other people bought more and then I got first place. But equally I've had minis where I've bought maybe three or four spots and somehow not even picked up a team. But yeah, on that point, the National Treasures one, if you're spending close, like close to $300 for, say, commanders, and you're not getting a card, I just can't get.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I can't get more than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, imagine that the risk isn't it?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's always that time that you don't, and then it comes out with a JSP. Well, that's FOMO, isn't it?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's always that time that you don't, and then it comes out with a JSTM.
Speaker 3:Well, that's FOMO, isn't it FOMO yeah, but that's it as you say. That's the game that you're in.
Speaker 2:If you want to get into that, yeah they say I think I've mentioned them a couple of times but that Sports Guard N nonsense podcast they were talking about yolo and fomo and stuff like that and that's obviously leads to making bad choices. You know, spending money, you haven't gotten things like that because you feel like you're going to miss the card, or or then you gee yourself up and go oh fuck it, you only live once and I'll I'll pay for it. But as soon as you get, as soon as you start the, the message the person who was speaking about on there was just stay in your lane. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You think you're five?
Speaker 2:dollars, with your five dollars then yeah, exactly yeah, yeah but but ironically you, you know, like this origin stuff. I think this is like. I absolutely love it. Yeah, it's not, it definitely not the cheapest, but it's not the most expensive, but I think that's a nice product. Whereas I know you've just gone in the National Treasures break but I've got a couple of the cards now. But I don't actually particularly like the cards. I mean I would if it was a very valuable one of one, of course, but yeah, as a card I actually like. And then, going back to the top premier league, I feel like if you like the design, you like the card, there's a lot more fun, isn't there to be had out of that product day to day, whereas maybe some of your higher end stuff is nice to get.
Speaker 3:But I don't know, I'm waffling, yeah it's not always chasing, like that high-end card as well, and I think, like you can with teams or base sets and things like that you can like. For me, if I can get every player in the eagles 2024 team over a few years, you know you can, you can have fun with it. Yeah, definitely, and like contours or finding a set that you like and go, okay, let's chase that.
Speaker 2:It's like doesn't always have to be chasing the high-end cards yeah, but like with your contact contours chase, I think, because even I've mentioned it on one of the podcasts and nicks mentioned it as well um, but there's a few people, like everyone seems to know you're collecting contours, so that's another really cool thing. Um, so there's probably obviously you want to complete it, but we all, you know everyone else wants you to complete it as well, like everyone wants to see the completed contours. Um, and I love that side of it as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll get there so, yeah, definitely looking forward to you you doing that as well. Yeah, anything else, mark?
Speaker 1:no nothing from me, just thanks for popping on, nick. It was great to chat to you, great to meet you, and yeah, forward to seeing the collection when it's the the Eagles Super Bowl collection's completed. Yeah, nah, when it's uh, that the um, the eagles supervalve collection's completed, yeah no, no, it's been awesome.
Speaker 2:Cheers for having me no, I appreciate it as well. Yeah, because we're talking about for a while and, um, yeah, it's just, I think I end with this every show, but like this is I get a bit overexcited because this is exactly what we wanted to do, isn't it like where you get yes, nice to have you know, different breakers on and things like that. But, yeah, like getting different people on talking about what they collect and how they got into it and that, yeah, oh yeah. So really appreciate it, mate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good well, only one thing, I think that's it yeah, regards to your family, regards to all your families. Yep, everyone out, cheers, boys, cheers, cheers.
