Coom & Currie Sports cards

Familiar to Millions, Brock & Rhino tell all in this Coom & Currie Sports Cards Special

Ben Coom & Martin Currie Season 1 Episode 14

Passion meets obsession in this candid exploration of sports card collecting with father-son duo Brock and Rhino from New Zealand. What begins as casual NFL game talk quickly evolves into a fascinating discussion about how fantasy football transforms the way collectors view their favorite players.

The conversation reveals those unexpected moments that spark personal collections – like pulling a stunning Miles Garrett card that becomes the foundation for an entire PC. We explore how collectors navigate the delicate balance between pursuing their passion and maintaining sustainable collecting habits. Coom candidly shares his struggles with limiting purchases, admitting "I can't sustain the level I'm at" – a sentiment that resonates with collectors everywhere who find themselves constantly chasing the next acquisition.

Family dynamics take center stage as we discover how collecting becomes a shared experience across generations. From Rhino's Chiefs collection to Brock's broader interests, their relationship exemplifies how cards create bonds between parents and children. The lighter moments shine through too, with stories about sneaking purchases past spouses and seizing opportunities when "the handbrake's gone."

Storage solutions, display preferences, and the emotional attachment to specific products like Origins base cards highlight how deeply personal this hobby becomes. As one collector puts it, "I've never felt this passionate about something and it's so weird and sudden" – capturing that inexplicable connection many feel toward their collections.

Join us for this authentic conversation about finding meaning in memorabilia, creating lasting connections through cards, and why some collectors eventually narrow their focus from hundreds of cards to just a perfect few. Whether you're new to the hobby or a seasoned collector, you'll find yourself nodding along to these shared experiences that make sports card collecting so much more than just accumulating cardboard.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Coombe Curry Sports Cards Podcast, where collecting meets a game. Uh podcast. This has been, uh, quite long in the making, hasn't it? Yeah, it's our team to get you on for a while.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, like chuffed a bit so we've uh, despite all the power cuts and that, managed to get you both on yeah, no, all amongst trying to get, uh came off the bed early and stuff like that, and yeah, all the stars kind of lined up yeah, that's, that's the um.

Speaker 1:

The tricky bit with us there's yeah, it's quite hard with times because obviously, with Martin being in the UK and us being over here, there's quite small windows. But yeah, no, chuck the bits.

Speaker 1:

Yesterday we chatted about it briefly when we recorded, but I had a power cut as well all the way up to, I think, half an hour before I was going to try and tether and use my iPad, but we had limited power as well, so I went out and bought a power pack that said it was already charged because, according to the email we got, it was going to be off until the morning. So, yeah, but yeah, we were always going to try and get on. But yeah, no, it's good to have you on.

Speaker 2:

Have you been?

Speaker 1:

watching this morning, watching any games.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sort of kept an eye on it a little bit. Had Red Zone going on in the background. Kids probably watch more than I did, to be fair, Trying to do some work and watch some football at the same time. It's pretty it's not easy to get it all in, but keeping an eye on fantasy scores and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've got obsessed with that now.

Speaker 2:

I know man.

Speaker 1:

I think I've got you, haven't I next week.

Speaker 2:

Which division are you in Div 5. Oh, you've actually got him.

Speaker 1:

I think have I.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:

Rhinos eat nuggets.

Speaker 2:

Rhinos eat nuggets, man yeah that's it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it. Week week four I think I've gone uh three and oh, today I think I've got uh, yeah, newbies luck. Yeah, because I had um I've got quite a lot of seahawks, oh yeah, yeah, obviously they destroyed saints today, so they went pretty good yeah, I quite enjoyed that. It makes a change, to be honest. Uh, watching, watching seahawks over the last year, it's just stressful.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to hear me Sorry?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I briefly lost you there, that's right someone called me. Yeah, so it's quite nice to just get rid of that message. Yeah, quite nice to watch a game where they were absolutely flying, to be fair.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, they've been going pretty good and obviously a few up and down seasons. But man, how good has JSN been this year?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I got him in the draft as well. He was like for me, he was like number one pick. I had to get him. Yeah, even today. Yeah, he got an early touchdown as well, which is good, yeah, yeah, quality. But he's uh, as you know, he's. He's my main pc as well. So when you obviously I've got him in fantasy, I collect him. I support the seahawks.

Speaker 2:

every time he does something good, I'm absolutely buzzing yeah, yeah, you've got the jersey in the background there yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's funny um doing fantasy and um, particularly when you start collecting certain players. How you see or for me, I see the game differently. So even today I don't know if it makes me weird, but when he's getting his touchdowns and getting a decent catch and that all I'm thinking about is that PC, you know that's exactly what it's like.

Speaker 2:

I think that's how I started collecting BGN, to be honest. I had a couple of bangers just off of Mini in one of the Triple T breaks and I had him in my fantasy team too and I was like man, this dude's electric. So that's how I started PCing him, to be honest. So it was quite cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think some me and Martin were chatting last night because he's a Liverpool fan and he got one of the team packs from Tops and I think I can't remember who the player was now Jadon Dans, I think but he started just to get a few of his cards and all of a sudden he's now, you know, started to PC him because of that yeah, that's how it works yeah, but that was my.

Speaker 1:

I started PCing Miles Garrett, which when you look at everything else I collected, is a bit of a weird one. But early on, when I first started, I went into. I don't know if it was my first or second break with KCC, but it was an early one, and I got a really nice Alphas Miles Garrett and that card. I absolutely love it. Yeah, yeah, just for that reason I decided to start collecting Miles Garrett. But yeah, none other than the fact that I pulled that one nice card.

Speaker 2:

There's some real good Miles Garrett cards around this last sort of 12 months as well yeah, he's signing again. Real good Myles Garrett cards around this last sort of 12 months as well yeah, he's signing again and stuff like that. So there's some real nice Myles Garrett kind of signatures, a few case hits as well, which is kind of cool to have those, yeah, and he's a quality player. Oh yeah, 100% I've actually got him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've got him in my fantasy as well, and he picks up quite a few points.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he's definitely one of the best defensive players in the league?

Speaker 1:

for sure, definitely so, rhino, who's your team?

Speaker 2:

Who's your?

Speaker 1:

Chiefs, chiefs, have you got the game on now? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've got it on my iPad, actually on quiet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was just watching it was funny last year because it was Ravens Chiefs week one yeah and the game was on at midday and I pulled him out of school and we priority, priority, but then he came away with the win. So he had that over me.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I think for the benefit, obviously, of the podcast. You're a Ravens fan, aren't you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm a Ravens fan, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Who won that game?

Speaker 2:

The Chiefs.

Speaker 1:

Chiefs, yeah, Although I think you should be alright today, I'd imagine against Giants, but it's not been the best start, is it?

Speaker 2:

What do they do In the season?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Not a good start, though.

Speaker 1:

Not many starts. Yeah, so you're also collecting all your Chiefs cards and that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Who's got the better PC? That's my question for the day. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think he's got the better PC. That's my question for the day. I don't know. I think he's got some bangers.

Speaker 1:

You've got those two uptowns.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's got them here. Actually, he pulled them out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He was going to show you his favourite cards, and one of them was the one that he got off you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the Xavier Worthy, yeah, yeah, have you got them there, have you yeah?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's got him here.

Speaker 1:

Go on, give us a look.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, that's one of your favourites there. We've got that one off Nick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, yeah, nice. Oh, you've still got my sticker on as well.

Speaker 2:

That's an important part of the puzzle. You've got to remember where it came from yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:

It's funny because I think I've mentioned this quite a few times. But I've got like, maybe I'm a bit sad, but when I get mine that come from other people, sort of contradictory to what you just said I take the sticker off and put one on. Or, if they haven't got one on, because I don't like the, uh, it's this thing that's fascinating me with. Uh, you know, getting into this hobby, like the weird little things that people like about how they display cards or store them or why they buy them. But I've got a really weird thing about the gold magnet. Yeah, um, I've never been a fan of gold, um, so I like the sticker on there. But even if it's someone else's, it just looks so much better yeah, some of them got really nice stickers too yeah

Speaker 1:

I think sometimes they're, um, they're part of these ones. I got off like I think it was. I don't know, you know like one of the like vista print or something. Yeah, um, but they're quite cheap, I think they look quite nice. So when I go through my box, I don't know, you know like one of the like Vista print or something, yeah, but they're quite cheap, I think they look quite nice. So when I go through my box and then you look down and you can see all the stickers on the top, I think it looks quite like quite uniformed and that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But it's weird the obsession that people have with how they store their cards and things like that. What do you guys do? Do you have them out on?

Speaker 2:

display, or nah, not at the moment, because we're just kind of like we're living at our in-laws for a bit and then just renting now. So and building, we're building a new house and then that's going to have our. I've got a cabinet getting built into the wall, so ah, yeah, yeah eventually yes, but right now no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you keep your Rhino? Do you store your cards with your dad's or do you have yours like totally separate, separate sort?

Speaker 2:

of Say that again.

Speaker 1:

Separate, ah, separate.

Speaker 2:

He's sort of got his own box but then he's got a whole bunch of little Pokemon boxes that he's got all his just kind of inserts and stuff in.

Speaker 1:

Ah, yeah, yeah, so you're into Pokemon as well.

Speaker 2:

No, they're just. You know how you get those boxes. You can just go there and there's like 50 cents or something for a box and it fits all the one touches and top-loaded cards.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, got you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's just a storage box.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, nice. What's so? How I Are you Nice? I assume then, brock, you were collecting first and then, rather than Rhino, get you into it. But you were collecting first and then. Have you always been into it, Rhino, or is it a new thing for you?

Speaker 2:

Sort of Ever since I started, you started too. Yeah, my oldest son. He was a Lions fan, oh a lions fan and he was collecting for a bit, but just got to an age where djing is cooler than collecting cards.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, well, yeah it's something you can, uh, you can always come back to, isn't it? I was thinking, like the other day, I don't know if I can sustain this level of uh, of purchasing that I'm doing at the minute. It's like, yeah, it's you know, like even to the fact that we've we've started uh, we said exactly the same thing last night but even that we've started the podcast at the minute, like cards are life, I wrote something down to talk about. I was like um, just before I came on, I was watching the game. I've won two auctions on eBay.

Speaker 2:

I just can't stop myself it becomes an obsession, eh, to write. It is pretty difficult yeah it's good fun, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

there's all the different areas of it, like even when you get into a break before. I don't know if you find this, but even once you're in the break, even if the break's maybe not for two days or however long it takes to fill, I'm still. I still get a buzz from the fact I know I'm in it and it's the breaks lined up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, um, and then you've obviously got, if you're buying boxes and and whatnot, you've got that, that feeling as well, but just same as buying your singles, when you know, like, I think since january I've not had a moment where I've not had a purchase that's been on its way yeah so you've got that element as well that was yeah, you're probably in the same place.

Speaker 2:

I was last year where um yeah you're sort of nailing all facets of it, you know, and you've always got something on the go, but I definitely have tried to reign it in this year just yeah, especially with breaks like really, I mean obviously um, I'm a big supporter of the kcc team, so yeah, amazing yeah yeah, but um, it's just some of the others just picking and choosing a bit and and then trying to have one or two cards on the go with um off ebay, but I get them sent to a place in america and so I think december 18 they all come back to me, so I'm waiting for that date. It's going to be pretty epic.

Speaker 1:

I'm going back to the UK towards the end of the year. So I keep saying to myself I'm going to slow down a bit to build up some money to get some stuff over there. But then I started looking on eBay because my account, when I made it, has obviously originated in the UK. I can sort of revert it and change the address to my mum and dad's could be a few mail days when you get there yeah, exactly, it's just finding a way because I think my what I worry about is I don't want to be.

Speaker 1:

I can't sustain the level I'm at, but I don't want to be. Nick's probably sustain the level I'm at. Yeah, um, but I don't want to be a. Nick's probably seen a lot of people come and go yeah, yes yeah, so I don't want to be like someone that was there for a year and then you never hear from me again.

Speaker 1:

Um, but I think that's not unique to that. It's unique to if you want to always collect cards, you've got to get it under control. You've got to find a way that works yeah, it's interesting, like I sometime last year.

Speaker 2:

There's a couple of people that were kind of sort of helped me out quite a bit, um, but one of them he's I think he's one of the admins of the nfl cards page. He's just like, mate, at the end of the day, like if you want to be in it for a long term, it's only just cards, like you know. Like, so just you know, reign it back. They're always going to be there. There's always going to be a new set, a new chase and stuff like that. But if you want to be in a long term, you just got to remember that they're only piece of cardboard. It's like, yeah, it's pretty hard to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's weird, isn't it like it's? You know, we spoke, you know, on the podcast about like I remember when I first, when the Wellington card show was on, I went to the trade night before and I was chatting to this guy about is it the fact that you know you've got a card somewhere at home? That? What is the buzz? Because a lot of people, and even myself to a certain degree, you get the card. I leave them out for a bit.

Speaker 1:

You know as I get them card. I'll leave them out for a bit when you know as I get them and then I put them away and then every now and again I'll have a look at them. But it's not part it sounds a bit, a bit weird, but it's not part of your daily life. Yeah, to see, necessarily, all the cards, but I think for me I'm somewhere in the middle like, yeah, it's knowing that you've got a particular card so you can look at it whenever. But, um, yeah, since we moved over, we're still renting. We sold everything in the uk, so I've not had the opportunity yet to to um, really make an office or something like that. But I think what you said, when the time's right, there'll be a built-in cupboard or whatever and have a lot of stuff on display, I think think, yeah, and that's kind of where I'm at is like I've got this vision of what I want it to look like, the finished product.

Speaker 2:

So I'm kind of they're all stored away until that moment and that's when I'll probably get the big kick out of it, you know. Yeah, definitely so it's kind of cool, but I've also got to build in you know Rono's kind of PC and, um, my wife's got quite a bit of baseball stuff as well, so uh, yeah yeah, so yeah, do you, um, rhino, do you, uh, go into your breaks as well?

Speaker 1:

Are you opening boxes, buying singles? How, how do you collect Bit of all of it, bit of all of it. A bit of all of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, a bit of all of it.

Speaker 1:

I don't think you can beat opening a box, though can you Like it's? What do you reckon it's good fun, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's had a couple of. When we moved down here I had a couple of boxes waiting for him, a couple of just optic blasters.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, they're always a good fun rip, yeah, but I think last year we just sent it too hard, eh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you guys collect any like football as in soccer? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you've got a few soccer ones. Who's your team?

Speaker 1:

Who's your team? Real Madrid oh yeah, I do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you've got a few soccer ones.

Speaker 1:

Who's your team?

Speaker 2:

Huh, who's your team? Oh, real Madrid.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh nice. Yeah, have you got what's your? I don't suppose you've got it there, but what's your? Absolute banger of a card for football or soccer?

Speaker 2:

Do you have one? You don't have one here. Eh yeah, right yeah, Football, no, like soccer. Oh no, I don't have my soccer card here, oh yeah, so basically most of Kane's PC is still in Auckland until I go back up and I'll bring it back down with me. Oh yeah, so he's just got a couple of bangers in there, but none of them are soccer, I don't think.

Speaker 1:

Are you going to get involved with the Tops stuff when it comes out, I think either late this month or October?

Speaker 2:

I think probably something I'm just talking from, but I think one of the hard things is I'm not into soccer. Oh, yeah. You get the occasional box or break or something, but mostly NFL and rugby. Yeah, he's got heaps of cool rugby cards and stuff. Oh there, yeah, yeah, he's got heaps of rugby, cool rugby cards and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Oh nice, yeah, yeah, I think the top stuff's the EPL, isn't it? And I think my mate Martin said last night that Matcha Tax is coming out as well this year. I didn't know that. So that's where you'll get the Madrid stuff, isn't it? I think? Yeah, I don't know if you can get la liga over here. I'm not sure. I guess you can well, you got some.

Speaker 2:

You got a matcha tax thing recently, didn't you? Yeah, you got a box with your birthday money. Yeah, yeah oh nice. Got some cool cards, I think.

Speaker 1:

You've got those.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think somewhere.

Speaker 1:

I'm hoping they come out. So I've pre-ordered some of the top stuff for the EPL, yeah, but again I'm like I absolutely love ripping a box. I think that's probably the best feeling. But the problem is, like you know, like from the 2024 stuff, seahawks were fairly non-existent. Yeah, and obviously not. You know, we stuff Seahawks were fairly non-existent and obviously we're starting to see the new stuff now. But with the soccer stuff I'm a Liverpool fan, always have been, and I can't collect any other teams. So as much as I like opening the boxes, I end up with just a ton of waste.

Speaker 1:

I think that's me for so as much as I like opening the boxes, I end up with just a ton of waste.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's kind of that's me for baseball, which is why I don't buy any boxes. I think I brought one box of baseball the whole time and I just ended up giving away most of the cards because all I just collect and support is Red Sox. They're just life to our family. So you know, if I was to pull a Yankees card, I just yeah, I think I don't know what I'd do. I'd use it as a fire starter or something probably. But that's pretty much how it is in our household. It's like Red Sox or die, that's kind of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, to be fair, if I did watch baseball, it'd be Red Sox, mainly because of the connection with Fenway yeah, yeah, that's right they're funny because they, you know, like Liverpool. There's been years where there's been a lot of criticism but ultimately what they've done for Liverpool and I guess for Boston as well has been phenomenal as a whole.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they seem to go through periods of leanness and then you slowly get better and then they'll pour in the money when they need to. But I don't know if it's like that for Liverpool at all, but I mean, obviously Liverpool's a great team at the moment, so you're kind of pretty lucky.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, they've spent like close to, or reportedly like, 500 mil or something like that. But they've sold a lot of players, so the net spend's big, but it's not as big as some other players, some other clubs, sorry. So it's just sensible and I think they've like last year I think Liverpool only spent 30-40 million, if that. So they've kind of got the timings right, won the league and you know where they haven't spent the money every single year.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Like a lot of clubs, they've had this one big year to bolster the squad. From that won the league last season. So I think I don't know how anyone can criticise them. I think you get owners that come in, that you know it's going to take a while to make an impact and with Anfield as well, exactly the same as is it Fenway Park. It's called yeah, but they've obviously renovated that, keeping the history and the character and stuff like that and that's cost an absolute fortune.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, fenway Park. When I was there I was talking to some of the locals and they're always on the fence because they want a bigger park, so then maybe the prices come down a little bit, but then they love the history of Fenway Park, so it's like do you pay more and keep Fenway Park alive?

Speaker 2:

or do you build a massive kind of high-production stadium and maybe the prices will be a bit cheaper. But I don't know. Just the buzz of Fenway Park and the history and the little nooks and crannies in that park is so unique. There's just nothing like it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when I was in me and my mate had been to America a few times specifically to watch football. But when we was last in New York we went to a stadium tour of Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because I don't know much about baseball at all, I genuinely believed that that was the same Yankee Stadium that's always been there. Yeah, it blew my mind when the guy said that it was. It's fairly. I don't know how old it is, but it's fairly modern isn't it yeah? A lot of it's. I don't know if it's an exact replica, but it's pretty much the same as the old stadium. But yeah, I didn't know that at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's a thin line, isn't it? Because I've been to Anfield since they built the new main stand and I think it's one of the single biggest stands, but it's still quite tight.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

When you go to some of the new stadiums you've got a lot more space and you even get padded seats and stuff like that, and I think the history of Anfield, like Fenway Park, is phenomenal. But I don't know, it's a tricky one. Some of these new Tottenham Hotspur stadium where they have a lot of the NFL games over there. It's an incredible stadium, so it is tough.

Speaker 2:

I went to, I did a tour of the stadium in Munich Bayern Munich stadium, man, that's. That's pretty cool yeah it's amazing what they do with the field and like stack it under and stuff like that. It's just crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that's your soccer team there, real Madrid. They've just done the Bernabeu and that stacks that pitch. Can bring another pitch up, can't they? It goes down in pieces have you seen that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, on YouTube.

Speaker 1:

I've never been to Madrid actually, me neither. No, I've been to the Nou.

Speaker 2:

Camp. He hasn't either Madrid, actually, no, I've been to the Nou Camp and no he hasn't either.

Speaker 1:

No, I've been to the Nou Camp but they're renovating it now, but that was an absolute dump yeah definitely needed a renovation. Yeah, that one's due to be open soon. I've got a yeah, we've just started on the podcast a little feature called All About that Bass. Yeah, and I started it because I've got one here, actually. But I've got my Milro, which is pretty much the same as the bass, but I'm absolutely obsessed with this Origins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I personally think it's I'd actually say it's my favourite product.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is very cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the base cards to me look like inserts or something from another product. So that week me and Mark were chatting and we thought we'd start off this base collection, build something up and then before Super Bowl we'll get the best one graded with pcg and then we'll give it away to someone as a base collection with a graded card, oh cool. So we were asking everyone who comes on if they've got a base card that they got hopefully some sort of story or why they like it.

Speaker 1:

And if you're happy to donate it to the collection? Yeah, for sure it. And if you're happy to, donate it to the collection?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. So I'm showing my one, which is it's a product called Ellen and Ginter, which is a baseball kind of product, and it's gone out there which oh nice. So obviously Pedro Martinez is a massive Boston icon. Awesome picture for the Red Sox.

Speaker 2:

yeah, that's just cool this um allen and gins product is quite, it's a real weird product, man. So they they have all sorts of stuff in there. So even if you're going on a break, you can choose your team, but you can also choose non-baseball. Oh, yeah, which, um? And I'll grab a couple of cards. I think I showed you one last night, but, yeah, I'll grab. Oh, where are they got a few here? I'll grab. Oh, where are they Got a few here? So I'll show you the first one, which is not the one I showed you.

Speaker 1:

So this one's the blue whale.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, so it's literally just a blue whale, and this is the world's largest blue whale.

Speaker 1:

That's tiny as well, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just a small cat. And then, yeah, the one I showed you which is just in our down, which is just when you think you've seen it all. Yeah oh man, because everyone was telling me to try and get it, to sign it and then sell it, but uh, but yeah, it's a real weird product. But their base cards are really cool because they're kind of quite classical and similar to origins. They're on that kind of nice rough kind of card. It's not like a shiny optic or a laser edge card.

Speaker 2:

It's, you know, a nice sort of, I don't know, it's a cardboard card.

Speaker 1:

It's a vintage look, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so I happily donate this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, nice one. Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:

I had another one here, but it was really just for the product. But you've already talked about it and that's Origins. You know, this is the only base variety I had, but just Origins in general. They're just, I mean, and even being you know that 55-point sort of thicker stock as well. It's just awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's funny because you know yourself, like when you get some of the stuff from the breaks you've been in, when you get the base cards like if there's a base JSN or something like that, it's never comes in, it's just like lumped in with the stuff. But for me I'm like I'll straight away get it into a sleeve and get it into a top loader. But some of the Origins base cards that I've had come through have just been the same, so they've not even been sleeved and I'm like I don't know how anyone can look at these cards. I know I'm new and that's why we set up this, but to me I've said this about 100 times, it's quite boring now but I keep looking at these base cards and to me they look like inserts from other products. Yeah, Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I think what happens is that you just get so overrun with the amount of bass that you get for me now pretty much all my bass. Unless it's something I really like, I'll just put it in a box and donate it, or even some inserts and stuff, because I just know that in 5 or 6 years time it's just going to overrun my house.

Speaker 1:

Those two boxes. I've got five or six years time.

Speaker 1:

It's just gonna overrun my house so yeah, that's it yeah yeah, my um, those two boxes I've got, I uh, in my head I said to myself that I'll always keep my pc to those boxes. Yeah, so when you fill it, you'll, in theory you'll start. Everything will be an upgrade. You'll become like quite a hard uh process to you know. Take something out of the box and put something in and you'd like to think that you're improving what you got. But it's gone out the window a little bit. I'm already thinking about getting a third box because at the minute and maybe this is, you'll probably understand this more than me, and I think some people have been collecting for years, probably see the same routes that people are going to go down.

Speaker 1:

But yeah I find it hard to get rid of stuff, Particularly the Origin space cards, even for teams that own PC. I find it hard to get rid of it because they, for me, without a doubt, are my favourite product.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're cool.

Speaker 1:

But, even those blasters as well. Even the packaging that the blasters come in was like a matte type finish.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I just thought they were quality and you get some nice inserts in there. No, you do.

Speaker 2:

One of my good friends in the hobby, jay he. I don't know how he does it, man, but he's got. He must only have 10 cards now, 10 or 12 cards. Yeah really yeah, yeah. And they're all just like white flawless. You know color match. You know everything's like perfect on them.

Speaker 2:

It just has to be perfect yeah, and it has to be like sets of three. So I'll have like three um, these are raiders supporter. You'll have three davante downtowns or something like that. Like everything has to be three. So it's like super specific. So that's kind of the other end where you can overrun with base cards and that sort of stuff, where you've got a few collectors out there that are just know exactly what they want, buy it, yeah, and display it.

Speaker 1:

So there's another. I don't know if we were, if I was with someone else about this or it is on the podcast, but if I, if I had to say a seahawks card that had a similar value to my collection and there was an option to trade my collection for this one, let's say, grail card.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I would do it because obviously I enjoy some of the as we've just been saying, a lot of the base cards and I think having that variety in all those different cards is part of it. Yeah, but you know, when we talked about sustaining this longterm and there might come, you know, somewhere down down the road excuse me, somewhere down the road where that's what happens. You know, like you're, you become so specific, you become quite ruthless with what you're going to collect and stuff like that that you, that your collection is is 20 cards or something like that, but they're, like you know, real elite.

Speaker 2:

I sort of went through a stage last year of I mean I just, you know, went crazy and had all these random cards. That were really good cards but they, you know, just weren't fitting my collection at all. So I just got ruthless, sold heaps, but then that allowed me to buy. I've got a list of 10 Grail cards and that allowed me. I. I've got a list of 10 Grail cards and that allowed me. I've brought four of them so far. So I've still got six to buy, but they're just so expensive that, yeah, pretty hard to justify spending two or three grand on one card.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was yourself, wasn't it that posted about the Derrick Henry?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Any joy with that so far no, no, where I was, where I was with that. It's not a car that I specifically was chasing, but I've got a lot of value cards around that value yeah that are different, that I just trade for.

Speaker 2:

You know, like I don't mind getting rid of to trade for that, because I can't see somebody coming out with a downtown that I like and I don't have anything to trade for that, you know, know. So I was just like I'll see if I can nab one of them. But no, no one had one.

Speaker 1:

That's an interesting point, isn't it over here? Because I've been going on about this or you've seen, probably, that I've been trying to sell the two Bo Nix cards, yeah, which last time I listed them they were I put them so far below comps, obviously in the States that, and I've not got any patients.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's the one. That's one of my things I want to get. I just want to keep getting Seahawks cars and I think I need to fix that part of me because I finally got rid of them now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, I'll post them today?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I them today. Yeah, I'd uh, yes, um, yeah, they've gone, but for the price I listed them for. So in, in reality, in, let's say, the American market of I could have got a lot more. Yeah, um, maybe if I graded them and held them for a bit, but the problem is he's I'm not sure about Bonix yeah um, I'm not sure he's going to hold his his value.

Speaker 1:

So I feel I'm happy with the, with the sale and yeah, I'll get a few Seahawks bits, but the money only lasts five minutes in my pocket.

Speaker 2:

So straight into the next new listing, or on eBay or something. That's the thing isn't it.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing. Like you, you probably know a few more, but, like I've started to know, you know certain people for certain teams, but there's not a massive market for each team, so you are quite limited over here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've got a couple of half-decent Titans cards and I've just got no idea where to get rid of them.

Speaker 1:

Eh yeah exactly, I just don't know any Titans supporters. Yeah, a trip to the States, I reckon.

Speaker 2:

Well, we did. Rhino did that New Zealand's Best Goosey competition, so he put his entry in to get a ticket to the All Blacks first, ireland and Chicago in a couple of months so we'll see if he wins that or might be able to take him with me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I am. When I finished the Seahawks game not that I can afford it I started pricing up how much it would cost me to go to Arizona this week. Yeah, because they have their Thursday night football.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

At State Farm and at first I was like I can't do it. And then I priced it up and I thought I could do it all for two and a half grand that's pretty good but literally it's ridiculous. But I would do it if my missus let me, but that that's the biggest stumbling block.

Speaker 1:

She said no um but first I was kind of joking yeah, it's funny because, like when I started telling her first I was half joking, like you know, see, just see her reaction. But then I started looking at the price and I was like yeah is actually doable, you know, I can get on the flight. The flight was fairly reasonable and it was. I was going to go literally get there Thursday morning US time yeah, watch the game and then go back Friday yeah, and then in my head.

Speaker 1:

There's a little cog and I'm like you know this is this is going to work this, but she's not having any of it that sounds familiar.

Speaker 2:

It was funny. When, um, my wife moved down here and we were still in Auckland, the first thing that came, or I know, came up to me. He's like we've got to get a box of cards just because mum's gone, the handbrake's gone. So, yeah, yeah, I've managed to.

Speaker 1:

Uh, because, to be fair, like my miss has been quite supportive. I'm sure she doesn't fully get it, but she did a couple of breaks herself, like I've mentioned before, the one where she got two bears cards out of Obsidian. But the kids have started doing that Lacana yeah and she quite. What's funny about that is she was never particularly interested. But then, when I worked out what all the little symbols meant and then you started looking at rarity all of a sudden she became fascinated yeah, yeah um, so yeah, she's pretty supportive.

Speaker 1:

But um, it's funny how many people you talk to who've got a lot of secret stashes or or keep it away from the missus. Yeah, this guy, this guy bought, uh, two cards off ebay. His tag, or whatever you call it, was the wife said no more cards.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I was chatting to him a little bit about combining the postage and as we were chatting he said to me that if only his missus knew how much she actually spends on cards.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So everyone can relate to that.

Speaker 2:

Kane's laughing in the background because he knows exactly what he's like yeah, so everyone can relate to that. Kane's laughing in the background because he knows exactly what he's like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Is that what you spend all your money on Rhino.

Speaker 2:

Lego, mostly Lego. At the moment he's going through Lego space.

Speaker 1:

Oh, lego, yeah, yeah, nice. What's your Another question for you, kane? What's your favourite product? What's your favourite product? What's your favourite cards?

Speaker 2:

Donruss Loves Donruss eh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah, it's the standard Donruss.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I think it was probably one of our first boxes that we brought. Eh, it was the first. Yeah, it was the first box we brought.

Speaker 1:

It's a fun rip, isn't it? To be fair, I like those bomb, squ Bomb squads, and just the variety in the cards too.

Speaker 2:

You obviously got your raided rookies and your just base cards, but there's so many different parallels and inserts and stuff, so I think that's why you like them in downtown yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I was getting when the optic stuff was out, especially the blasters I was getting quite bored of that, because it was like a purple shock and every now and again you might get one different insert.

Speaker 2:

That because it was like a purple shock and every now and again you might get one different insert, but it was just so repetitive. Yeah, I agree, you're basically buying them to try and get a downtown or something, and the rest of them are just, I mean, all the bases in a box, really.

Speaker 1:

That's the same as Absolute, isn't it? That's the Kaboom, yeah, kaboom, or Bust, bust, especially on the blasters, yeah, yeah. There's nothing else particularly worth much in there nah they're not nice looking cards, really, but the kaboom is. I haven't got one yet, but they are cool cards, aren't they?

Speaker 2:

very cool. I haven't got one either yet no but I've got a few lined up that I'm trying to, yeah, trying, I've got a few lined up that I'm trying to snaffle.

Speaker 1:

It's funny actually, because the downtown I've got my JSM one, yeah, but I'm not. I saw the Mill Row one and obviously I want one. Yeah, I don't like it enough to Origins is my thing at the minute. I still would prefer to keep getting a few more Origins over trying to pay, possibly, for a Milrow downtown, but I'll be buzzing if I pull one, obviously.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, actually you got that downtown off my mate, eh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it, yeah, his daughter, his daughter pillow. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2:

I love you, eh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He was awesome as well. Oh, you saw it actually, didn't you how he packaged it? And he was like he's messaging me saying make sure you're in, and stuff like that he's actually the one who got me into this, into collecting cards.

Speaker 2:

I think he went over to Perth for his brother's wedding or something like that, and he just walked into a shop and grabbed a box and ripped a few and then was telling me about it because both of us are massive football fans.

Speaker 2:

So, I was like, well, I used to collect cards when I was you know 90s, like most people basketball cards, and it was funny.

Speaker 2:

I was just sort of thinking about basically my whole life I've collected something. So there's always, whether it was stamps with my Nana when she was, you know, really sick, or cards or magic cards or when I was at school and all sorts of stuff, and we've got like a pretty epic Metallica kind of figurine and memorabilia collection that's just in boxes in the garage. But then I don't know cards just kind of resonated with me because just the love of the sport really, and even with rugby, like we've got some pretty cool you know aaron smith autos and stuff like that. We've got arty severe to sign a card for us and, um, yeah, just I don't know, we just love sport. So yeah, just like, oh, if you can display that stuff with, because my kind of goal is to have like a piece of memorabilia like we've got in my home signed ball and then have the his chief's cards around it sort of thing. So it's kind of like yeah piece of memorabilia and some cards.

Speaker 1:

It's a bit of a bit of a mixture, so yeah, definitely, um, yeah, and it's like nostalgia as well, isn't it like you, the players and stuff like that moments in time like I've. I've always been a collector as well, and it's funny because I was listening to Sports Card Nonsense podcast and they were talking about it's rare that you get someone who comes into card collecting who's not been a collector. So most people who collect have collected something else, and I have always collected stuff like I was in before I came here, for maybe five years prior, I was collecting coins. Yeah, absolutely obsessed with it. I've obviously got that type of personality, but, um, but I've never felt like with cards. I've never felt like this passionate about something and it's so weird and sudden yeah and it, and it just come from.

Speaker 1:

What I've never been able to put my finger on is before I went to Seattle last year is I knew when I went there that I wanted to get a card, and I can't put my finger on why that was, because I've never collected sports cards and that's a bit of a weird one. Maybe it'll come to me one day, that was, but I knew that that's what I wanted to do. So when I went to that Pike Place market, all I was looking for was a card shop and, as I said on the first podcast, I massively overpaid for the card and even when I got back it only went in my drawer and it wasn't until two months later that I picked it up and thought I wonder if I can get any in Jigba ones. And that was it the rest is history, never had any money, since that's basically how it goes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but definitely got to get it under control. But I think, yeah, I'm chuffed to bits that I've had you both on, it's been awesome.

Speaker 2:

It's been really good.

Speaker 1:

The young guy was pretty nervous. To be fair, mate we were. I still am like you. You know it's funny because we've messaged quite a lot and you've obviously heard my voice from the podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's the same with Nick Blinko last week.

Speaker 1:

Yeah the podcast, but it's the same with, uh, nick blinko last week. Yeah, I've not heard your voice. I've done a bit of facebook stalking, obviously, but uh, I've not heard your voice, didn't hear nick's voice. So when you get people on that you've not had this type of conversation with I'm. I'm just as nervous and I remember our first. I was saying to you our first podcast we did, we were chatting normally and then we press that record button, you, you get a five, four, three, two, one and you just go like really rigid. It's weird Cause no one's watching us, it's just the recording. So if we want to edit something out, we can edit it out, but it is funny. Um, but yeah, we still don't feel perfectly relaxed. But then when you just get into a conversation with someone, like with you guys today, it's been really easy. Yeah, um, and without having. This is the first one I've done where we've not been together. So, um, but yeah, I think it's flowed naturally. It's been a really really good chat.

Speaker 2:

No, it's been good, I mean it's yeah, I was, you know, like talking about subjects that you're passionate about. So that's what you break down today like. It's like if you do a speech at school, you try and do it on something you're passionate about and just kind of flows on. But if you're following your way through something you know nothing about, this makes it a lot harder yeah, but that's a good thing for us.

Speaker 1:

We, we uh, you know, like even now I feel like I'm getting a grasp on it, but I'll probably say things that you've probably got seasoned collectors out there saying what you're talking about. That's obviously what's unique about our show. We're not doing the podcast because we're experts. We're doing it because we're not experts and we want to learn about it. And it's good chatting to you guys, especially yourself, rhino, being the first or the youngest person that we've had on. I see you love it. Yeah, really chuffed.

Speaker 2:

He's probably going to send the link to his mate. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1:

I messaged my mate Martin last night because when I put the preview on Instagram I had Stu will probably hear this but I didn't realise. You know, we had the guy from Cardsley Brakes on. I didn't realise it was his personal instagram oh was it. So, yeah, he put on there. He messaged saying he's got his sunday night sorted. So I messaged martin going I love it. You know I've got this random guy off instagram saying that he's buzzing, that the podcast is out and it was stew from cars.

Speaker 1:

He breaks it's amazing, though, because he's mark showing me sort of conversations from their group and you've got people who are looking forward to hearing it and, um, stuff like that. So, yeah, like the views and listens is just going up every week oh no, it's been really good.

Speaker 2:

It's just, I know, something that's kind of cool to new zealand right, obviously you've got the uk connection and it's that half of it as well, but, um, it's been kind of cool listening to people that I know. Come on and chat to you about cards. I think the first one was probably Nick. It was good to I catch up with Nick quite often. So, he was kind of a good logical choice to have on first, pretty much, I think.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I said to him I was really scared to ask him because, you know, no one likes rejection. Nick was like he's either a bloody good actor or he genuinely loves it, because he's keen to come on. And I think we've agreed to do for him to come on, not always have to be the first week, but roughly the first week of each month. So he's going to try and come on once a month just to talk about, uh, what's coming up, and stuff like that but that's good but he's a fascinating guy, isn't he?

Speaker 1:

because you know I only know he's, I know him from his breaks and stuff like that. But getting into what he actually collects and stuff like that what I found interesting recently he did. He did a sale, didn't it? And it's kind of an insight into what cards he has and stuff like that. By what he's selling, I kind of created this image in my head that he might just be purely high end cards he's got all sorts of stuff he's a bit of everything, isn't he?

Speaker 1:

but again, same with Nick. Having Nick on and having these conversations, having you guys on and just seeing why and what you're collecting, and stuff like that it's oh, mate, I love it just you know, I chat to people on Instagram about their cards and most people try and they want to sell me something. So I'll have a conversation and say, oh, nice card, or whatever. And they'll be like do you want to buy it? I'm like, no, I just like it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just like your cab mate.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, exactly yeah um, but no listen, that's been uh, that's been awesome. We'll uh. This will probably go out um next week as part of the next podcast, but um, yeah, it's been awesome and uh definitely love to have you both on again in the future yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I think next time Kane might be a bit more talkative, because he's done it once.

Speaker 1:

So he's into it. Next show, we might be able to stop you, Rhino.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you have to run it yourself. I can go for a run or something and you can do this, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I really appreciate you inviting us too. Yeah, no, definitely Bring a couple Real Madrid cards next time yeah yeah, I better go and put them up eh, yeah right, nice one. I appreciate it. We'll catch you soon yeah, cool man cheers cheers mate.