Coom & Currie Sports cards

Hype, history, and the hard truth about rookie cards in the Premier League

• Ben Coom & Martin Currie • Season 1 • Episode 17

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A shed, a power bank, and a dongle doing lengths in a coffee cup—chaos sets the tone, but the real story is how that same messy energy mirrors the hobby right now. We swap teenage Rome tales of moody shirts and pizza arbitrage for a sharp look at licensing, error cards, and why a Premier League “rookie” feels more like a futures bet than a finished article. If you’ve ever wondered whether comps tell the whole truth or if your PC should be ruled by feel, this one’s for you.

We unpack Match Attax’s quiet arrival and ask whether hobby‑style features can keep pace with the Premier League flagship. On the NFL side, Origins still sings with painterly autos and inserts you actually want to display, while Donruss edges toward “downtown or bust.” Black looms as a sleek gamble. Then we zoom out: Whatnot’s rapid‑fire auctions are built for moving mid‑tier stacks and injecting some joy back into liquidity; error prints and colour‑clash parallels prove that design choices matter when fandom is the heartbeat; and community shout‑outs remind us this is more than a market.

At the centre sits the debate that collectors can’t escape: comps versus conviction. We weigh Ngomoah hype against the steadier gravity of legends like Gerrard, Salah, and Van Dijk, and make the case for better labels—debut, academy, competition firsts—over an imported “rookie” tag that doesn’t fit the reality of English football. Along the way, the binder grows, the Brighton PC gets love, and we admit that sometimes the best card is simply the one that makes you smile every time you open the box.

Enjoy the episode? Follow, share with a hobby friend, and leave a review with your hottest take: are Premier League “rookies” a buy, a hold, or a hard pass?

SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the Coom and Curry Sports Cards podcast where collecting meets again. Welcome to episode 17 of Coom and Curry Sports Trading Cards.

SPEAKER_00:

That's huge, isn't it? Episode 17. It's huge.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, here we are. We're slowly sort of upgrading bit by bit. Still not happy about the setup in the shed. No.

SPEAKER_00:

What what was happening when we were in the green room? What could we hear? A common mutt from the garden next door.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, I've got three things for you from setting up. So it's it's autumn in the UK, for anyone in New Zealand. So obviously the the weather's turned. I mowed the lawn this week. Um leaving the free from the studio. Yeah. Like a nice little Wembley way to the shed, um, if you will. And so that's left a nice little turf for for my for my dog to um to do his business, shall we say? Um now upon this morning walking up to the shed, what do we see? Yep. Um yeah, just a turd into the studio, have you? Yeah, about four nuggets of turd just hanging outside the left-hand side door as I enter the shed. Um that's been bypassed for now, that's been put to the site, that's been parked. Um, I then entered the shed setup, um, my my my rookie technical setup, um and then realised that I'd left um my rookie um some cards inside that we're going to talk about. Came back and my dongle, I guess so you called it for uh for my my orcs uh accessory from my phone has uh has fallen in my cup of coffee. Oh no. Not what I needed. So that that basically um sets my mic up, essentially. So dried it off, put it in an iPhone, iPhone said liquid detected on uh accessory. Brilliant. So uh that was all I needed.

SPEAKER_02:

So what does that mean for your setup today then? Are we sound right?

SPEAKER_01:

Um sounds alright. Tried it again, put it back in, it was fine. So if it sounds good, you're in, then I think we're away with it. But not an ideal start. Turd, followed by lead in coffee, and then um upon being in the green one with your with your good self. Next door's puppies kicking off. Kicking. Not by me.

SPEAKER_00:

How's the garage studio coming? When when's that gonna be open for business?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, um yeah, not much has that actually happened in the garage actually. I need like an afternoon or an evening just to to really move it all around. Um so yeah, nothing much has has has progressed in that sense, but I know what I need to do. So it's not as if I'm going and blind, I know where everything's going, I know what the setup's gonna be. There's gonna be a two-tier couch at the back of the garage. Um that's gonna be a desk where I can set up all of this and not have any issues. What I do need to buy is essentially there's no power to the garage. So I need to buy one of these um what is it?

SPEAKER_00:

Is it not integral to your house then? Is it not? Is it is there a little door where you can just slip into the garage or have you got to go outside?

SPEAKER_01:

No, I um it's separate to the house, so it's in like a um like a courtyard. Um walk behind the shed and then it's over across the courtyard. So you can buy like these um these power banks, can't you? Like industrial ones that last hours on end if you charge them. So I think I need to pick one of them up. But obviously I need to set it up first. Um, an extension lead out. Yeah, or I'll just or I'll just roll this extension lead out from the kitchen. Um so yeah, either way, I'm hoping to get that done. The wife's got a few days off booked in so she can look after the little one. Maybe I can slip into the carriage and get get it moved to get it um.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, get that get that um get that studio prepped.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, because that'd be nice, wouldn't it? I could get a few uh few footy shirts up in the background as well. Yeah, definitely. My most recent purchase from Bulgaria as well. Got Haristo Stoichkov, World Cup 94 Adidas shirt. Moody or Oh yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_02:

That's like the card.

SPEAKER_00:

Those um cards you've been opening, to be fair. Uh the one that tickled me was the pack that was practically identical. Two packs in a row.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, and stitch right up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. The goat. Um probably put a couple of them up on eBay, to be fair. Uh like a like a 10p or something. Moody cards, yeah. The moody cards followed by the moody shirt. The moody shirt is actually very nice, actually. Like the badge and the LES logo are all like stitched.

SPEAKER_00:

They are these days, aren't they? Much better than when we was uh when we were in Italy getting all them uh Moody shirts. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_01:

That takes us back, doesn't it? Um good these days, of course. Do you want to I don't know if you've talked us through that before, but um for the listeners at home, uh how old are we? 13, 14?

SPEAKER_00:

Year 10 that was. Year ten at school, so so yeah, 12.

SPEAKER_02:

Something like that, right?

SPEAKER_01:

We um we went on a uh a school trip, art trip to Italy, to Rome. Ah did you say was it an art trip, was it? It was an art trip, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Was it?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Remember we had to go and draw like the Coliseum and we had to go and draw like we sat like the Spanish steps, I think. Yeah. Um but essentially the the key key bit of this story is that uh someone's luggage got lost, didn't they? And it wasn't mine.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you know do you know uh hopefully she's not a big sports card fan? I mean I I don't even know if she's alive anymore, but um what was her name? Miss Wheatley Crow or something, was it? Or am I getting her name wrong?

SPEAKER_02:

Miss Wheatley Crow.

SPEAKER_00:

I'd love to see her again, because I because I'm a little bit I'm a little bit um I don't know, I think I'm a bit on a spectrum somewhere, and I like to have things done the way I want it, you know, like you go to an airport, I've got my way of doing things.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And something I've never forgot to this day is when we were put in uh, you know, when the the what do you call them? They were like checking the luggage in. Um I knew this was gonna happen straight away because she was going, Oh, put your luggage on, put your luggage on, like that. And I was thinking to myself, well, the lady hasn't finished that one yet. She's got it on the belt, she's putting a ticket route and she's going, Oh, put your luggage on, put your luggage on. Oh, just wait. And then she's like, put your luggage on. Okay, I'll put it on. Lady pushes the button, bang, off goes my suitcase. Not even checked in, no, no sticker, nothing. Um that alarm bells were ringing then. Can't miss, calm down, there's there's no rush here. And then we get onto the plane, as we go, you know, you're going down the air bridge, and I remember seeing my suitcase like in the airbridge, and I was saying to the lady there, because it was uh Alitalia or something, the airline, and I'm like, that's my bag, and she's like, What? What? And I'm like, that's my bag, and she's like, I've got a clue what I'm saying. I'm like, that's my bag, and she's like, Oh, okay, okay, your bag. I'm thinking, oh, it'll be alright, get to Italy. Never seen it, it never even made it to Italy, did it? I don't think it ever left the airport. Did it?

SPEAKER_01:

For some reason, I thought for some reason I thought it ended up in Rio. I don't know where that came from. Rio de Janeiro, uh Brasilia. Um just made it up in my head, probably.

SPEAKER_00:

Um what a shit show from the school as well. They um teachers couldn't organise a piss-up in their brewery, I tell you. I had about uh I think they bought me about six pairs of pants for uh two weeks, didn't they? Told me that Divi teacher, the tall guy. Um I forgot his name is. The right melt. And he told me to turn on my t-shirts. That turned my pants inside out. No, he didn't. Absolutely. He's sat again, minute. I remember mum and dad went to school to have a meeting with them after. My mum was fuming. I'm not surprised. Six pairs of pants and then I I lived off a fake football shirt. I mean legitimate football shirts.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean they were, they were. If you look if you look back, they were no good, were they? Like they were in comparison to what they are now. I mean obviously things. They were. What can you remember remember some of the some of the shirts he had?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it was AC Milan, Inter Milan, and a Christian Vieri one. Legend. Yeah, I can't remember the players, but I I do remember the Inter and the AC Milan ones quite well. Um they were alright, they weren't they weren't terrible. Um do you know the best thing though about losing your suitcase at that age? You've got to look at the positives, haven't you? And there was a lot of sympathy from the uh the ladies of the group.

SPEAKER_02:

A little cuddles from my shoulder together.

SPEAKER_01:

Every cloud. Every cloud. Uh we won't go any further into that story. Uh I will tell you that I bought um I remember a couple that I bought. I think I was they might actually I might still have them, maybe. But it was a Roma Totti shirt, um King of Rone, uh, and a Japan shirt, Hidatoshi Nikata. Um so yeah, good times. Um and they I mean they were cheap, but I remember the dirt cheap. Um whereas obviously now only buying buying the mood moody shirts um that are set quality, aren't they? And second to none and the quality, yeah, and and and detail. Um they are yeah, we're probably looking around 15-20 quid per pot.

SPEAKER_00:

Um do you know something that's we we mentioned the Italy trip on the pod before, didn't we? Because it was kind of the full the formation of Kumakurry Industries. Yep. Um Kumakurry jukeboxes. Um but I I remember um another funny thing I remember from that trip was when we got mugged off by the guy at the pizza place. Um was it Pompeii when we was at Pompeii, you know, like yes, Pompeii, no, Pompeii? Where the volcano erupted and we went and saw all the ruins and yeah, that's it, yeah. And I remember there's a there was half of us who who benefited from the other half getting mugged off, i.e. didn't fall into the same trap, but I was definitely in the half that got mugged off. So do you sell pizza? Um, no, no, no. Actually, yes, we do. Yes, we do sell pizza one minute, disappears. How much is it? Uh I don't know, 10 euros. Yeah, okay. He goes off, doesn't he, to another pizza van, buys the pizza for like five euros and comes back and sells it to us for ten euros. Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01:

Con artist Taurus traps. Yeah, that happens. Tourist traps, yeah. Um not not good.

SPEAKER_02:

Um I have got an order pending for the new Liverpool shirts. Oh yeah. So I will keep you posted on them.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh yeah, I'm gonna get the home shirt, the the um the home the away and the third kit, and they've just released the third kit as a long sleeve version. Now I can get all three of these and the keeper, the the black gold. Black one. Yeah, yeah. Really smart, isn't it? Um I can get with them for less than buying a a real one.

SPEAKER_00:

Just one. Well, as you talk, I'm just because I was on I got an email today from a kind of like our equivalent to like say Sports Direct over here, which is called Rebel Sport. And I saw they were selling all three actually. I'm just looking on the website. 169 dollars. So I'd say that's like pushing a hundred quid for a shirt.

SPEAKER_01:

That's crazy, crazy money. You can't buy it. Yeah, so there's no there's no wonder that people are going and buying moody shirts when yeah, you're looking at the best part of you know 100 pounds or however many New Zealand dollars they are. And it's ridiculous. Just for one shirt, like I remember.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's be clear, we're not we're not advocating you know, we're not advocating for people to buy moody shirts.

SPEAKER_02:

Just for legal reasons.

SPEAKER_01:

For legal reasons advise that but it's an option.

SPEAKER_00:

It's an option. We can't control what options you take. Exactly. I'm just telling you it's an option.

SPEAKER_01:

I will show you the shirts that I bought legally, legally, when they arrive. Um and you can tell me that they are of of a finer cloth of detailing, should we say?

SPEAKER_00:

That could be a new feature, couldn't it? Moody or genuine.

SPEAKER_01:

You decide. Well, I think uh we still need to put out the um I'll take some pictures later on today of the uh the moody Bulgarian cards and I'll see if people can spot the difference. We'll put them up on the social to see if uh how many how many um how many people can spot. Because that would that'll be good, like they'll get some good traction on comments when the the people go and what they're seeing.

SPEAKER_00:

So I suspect they don't over there, they don't really care if they if they print uh you know, like when we talk about Topps and Panini and who's got the license. I think it was Jaden Daniels. Would you rather have an unlicensed Jaden Daniels auto rookie card? Or would you rather have auto from his first um licensed product? Uh but I bet in in you know these moody cards, I don't care about that, do they just wang the logos on, they don't care.

SPEAKER_01:

But the funny thing the thing that cracked me up about it all was the that they were World Cup and Euro cards. So you'd expect the players to be in their national kits. Yeah, and half of them were in their club kits.

SPEAKER_00:

Well didn't we have a uh what's the muk Tomana mix up?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Namanya Matic of Magistra. And there was no muk, was there? Nope, uh, and it's the Scotland flag in the corner, and he's yeah, Serbian.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah. Good quality stuff that real top top draw stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

I bet uh I bet the people at Warehouse are printing them and picking out going, oh that looks good, doesn't it? Tomin A, great player, yeah, yes. Not him, it's not him. It's not him.

SPEAKER_00:

There's there's a um I think it was the downtowns. Oh got a white screen. What's going on? The um I think it's the downtowns. Um over here, they've printed like I can't even remember. This is a terrible story I'm about to tell because I can't remember the team, I can't remember the player, but there's a team and they've printed the wrong player on it or something. Got a high high profile for the downtowns. Um so I I guess mistakes happen even at the uh at the top. Even at the big dogs.

SPEAKER_01:

Um yeah, I guess uh I'd be interested to see. I think you s we shared a video, didn't you? Or you shared a video of um like a card how like cards get made and how to get protested. I like to see. Yeah, 100%. And it'd be really good to see like the how well that the quality checking is. Because like you said, yeah, yeah. That's quite a big mistake to put a wrong player on the cabin.

SPEAKER_02:

Huge.

SPEAKER_01:

Um so yeah, someone was uh someone took their eye off the ball, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think that's the first time. Like I've heard people say, I think like when you when I looked on the comments of that, like like pictures that people shared of that, people saying that's not the first time and stuff like that. So I think you get uh both sort of errors, but yeah, it's pretty you'd imagine like those licensed products as well. Like that's pretty insane, really, isn't it? That you can get to a point where you're putting the wrong bloody player in there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no good actually, but it'd be interesting to see if um how many of them went into circulation. And that'd obviously be quite well. I don't know if they'd be sought after or not. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, everyone loves a loves a mistake, don't they? Even in the back when I was collecting coins, people love a uh an error, an error coin. Um I see that in the card in some of these card pages. Like people I see one today, actually ridiculous. Someone's got like a lead you know, from the top Premier League, they've got like a Leeds badge. And like the foil bits like creased a little bit, and the guy's like, oh, is this an error? No, you've just got a creased card, you mappet.

SPEAKER_01:

It's uh I saw um speaking of that, I saw a guy um I can't remember his name on TikTok and he's quite um like he's got a big following, but he's uh he's a Leeds fan. And he pulled a Leeds badge, but it was a you know like you get all these coloured parallels. So you've got like yellow, blue, green, red, um, like they certain band-ins, you get one in every 10 pack 15, etc. And he got a leads one and it was um a red parallel around the badge, and he was highlighting the fact that growing up as a Leeds fan, he was advised to to dislike a colour red because it was manual, it was Arsenal, Liverpool, all the cut all the teams that they sort of disliked. So it's like highlighting the fact that uh I can't believe they printed a card as red. I mean, but yeah, it's it's what it is, isn't it? But it's quite funny to see.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a bit off that because yeah, I got a uh a nice Allison Becker card recently, like one of those it wasn't numbered, but it was one of them parallels that you're saying about, and it was like had a blue surround. I was like why would you print that? It didn't be worth printing, is it?

SPEAKER_01:

Very true, it's all uh subjective, I guess, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

Well I said, yeah, but you would have thought there'd be a bit of uh um common sensor, but yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01:

Rush release. Rush release speaking of uh rush well sorry, rush releases. Um I just want to discuss match attacks actually. Um as you're well aware, match attacks was the first sort of first collection that I sort of went into when I started uh jumping into this hobby. Um and now they've I felt like they released it sort of out of the blue. I wasn't expecting it. It was a bit later than it should be. Not later than it should have been, but it doesn't really coincide with I guess it does coincide with like Champions League starting, Europa League starting. Um and obviously the match attacks collection is um mirroring sort of European um teams and the European competitions. But um I've seen some of the product quite a lot recently. And it's quite it looks quite nice. Um I was I was uh apologies to Ethel from Morrisons for this, but I actually went into Sainsbury's the other day on my way to work and um there was the stand of match attacks and I was tempted. I didn't I didn't delve in, but I was tempted.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I think you should get a couple of packs, don't you, just to get it on the TikTok, get it on the Insta, just to see what it's like. Because with obviously with the top Premier League stuff, that's obviously amongst like uh like the football slots, football soccer group, that's huge, isn't it? You're seeing loads of it at the minute, especially the hobby stuff, but I haven't seen a lot of the new match attacks. So it might be worth grabbing a couple of packs and um and actually seeing what it's like. Is it are they up the I wonder if they start putting numbered cards in as well, like the Premier League stuff?

SPEAKER_01:

That's it, yeah. That's what I was thinking. I need to look into it a bit more because I've seen some some videos of the people opening them and I feel like they might be, they might be might be the same. Because match attacks are from tops, isn't it? Yeah, so maybe they've gone down the same same avenue they as they have with the Premier League stuff. Um it would make it make sense because obviously this this topp's product has been so well received because of the more exclusive stuff that you can potentially get. And so maybe they've uh mirrored that with the match attacks product um would make sense. But um keep I'll keep you posted. I'm sure I will uh get tempted with the dangling carrot in front of me. Um and uh I'll report back to what uh what the product's like because yeah, going from match attacks last year to tops this year, the quality in cards and product is sort of paramount. Um so it'd be interesting to see how they've moved on, um what they've changed from last year.

SPEAKER_02:

But some of some of the cards look proper decent, so um yeah, we'll have to I'll have to test the waters on that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Um yeah, definitely. I just sorry, something we should have started said at the start. We obviously um didn't have Nick on last week and he was due on this week, but unfortunately uh something's come up and uh Nick's unavailable, so hope hopefully get him on in the next couple of weeks to talk about um some new stuff that's coming up uh with the NFL and what breaks he's got coming up. But there's a product something I wanted to mention. I feel at the minute I was talking about like not doing as many breaks, but I did a break. I did oh yeah, I had um another Origins one um planned, which is for a hobby, was it two hobby, yeah, two hobby boxes and a a blaster um with card crazy, which I was looking forward to. I think I was speaking about that the other week, but that kind of I kind of went all in on it. I didn't really get a lot apart from a JSN, you know, like your Jordan Love one. Very nice. I've got a uh yeah, nice JSN one, so I'm quite pleased that, although I have ordered one off eBay prior to getting it, so I'm a bit annoyed about that. Um but yeah, got that, which is quite nice, got it in hand. Um but the products at the minute for me for the NFL have gone a bit. Um not really other than what was out before, there's it's just slowed down a little bit, which is good for my pocket. Um, but like the you've got like the Domrust stuff, which a bit underwhelming really. There's some once you've kind of got a few bits, like the nice inserts for the like Milro and that, um, it's a little bit like downtown or bust, and I've not actually seen from Card Crazy or KCC, I've not seen a downtown come out. Um, and I think both of them had a bit of luminance product left over, but not a big fan of those, to be honest, and not had a lot out of it from Seahawks. But I think, and I'll get Nick to confirm, but I think the next product out is black. Um, and I've never been in brakes for that product, but it looks really nice. Some nice autos and uh stuff like that. So I'll probably uh dabble double with that when they uh they start coming out, but I mean that's quite a nice product, but I'm still at the minute I'm still I bloody love this origin stuff. So I'm hoping there might be a few more boxes knocking around.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

The origins cards, yeah, they look amazing. Um this week I actually went on whatnot. Have you been on what not yet? No. So it's sort of like well, it's like it's essentially a selling app, but um it's um the card element of the app is you'll go onto the like the main page and it'll all be like listed of like people that are going live. And basically it's like almost like it feels like it's I mean eBay are doing it as well, so it's like a live live.

SPEAKER_00:

eBay Live, I think, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly like that. And I jumped on one the other day and it was um I actually really like the uh concept of it. So some the guy was just putting a card down, like on a on a holder, and he was given like, I don't know, 15 seconds, and you could bid on it. And the last bid got a card. So he must have like obviously he was chonning through a lot of cards and they were selling um probably quite a good way to sell cards that he didn't want. Um like a you know, like a pound, the the auction site at a pound, and obviously there was some good cards, some um some like numbered cards and stuff like that. So it was um I really enjoyed it. It was quite quick. I didn't buy it. No, there wasn't too much that I really wanted. Um but I can see how it would work. Like if I I stayed on for like a longer amount of time or if I went on other people's accounts, could see it being quite um quite good. And a lot of I see a lot of TikTok videos of people that have bought stuff on whatnot, and a lot of the people that um they buy from they chuck in like a bunch of other cards and stuff like that. So yeah, I think I might do this week and just um test the waters on that as well. But it looked pretty good. Um sort of like quick fire rounds of of auctions and um yeah, I'll um I'll let you know what I go for, but it's quite like yeah, I like I like that I like it, it looks good.

SPEAKER_00:

Well this is this is this is the thing, like we we've spoken about on pods before, but like you know what we want to do and stuff like that. And I think my biggest frustration, I guess being in New Zealand, particularly, is that you I can't move my camera, but like across all across my bench here, I've got like different cars and stuff like that. And you can't you know, like I wanted to create a database or or something where you know what people want all the time so that you can you can have that transfer because there's so much waste, isn't it? Especially if you're yeah, you're ripping boxes, but even when you go into breaks, like you know, at Origins, for example, like I've got all the base cards now. So if I go Seahawks because I'm chasing the numbered cards or autos, whatever, I'm still always you know, the amount of millrows it's funny, like the first one I didn't get a Milro base card, and it seemed I was like, Oh, what if I don't get one? I think I've had about seven now. Um, so you you you get a lot of waste, but I'll tell you what I have got though, MC, sitting right next to me, is all my cards for when I come over, all in packets, and they've got names on. So there's a packet of cards for you. You can see a numbered Jordan Love there. Thank you very much. Um there's the the Aaron Rodgers Green Bay cards. Uh there's more, you know, like I've got loads, loads of different packs. What we've got here, I've even got you a Jalen Milrow rookie. Okay, nice fat pack of cards there, and Bo Nicks by the looks of it. I'll double check that and I'll put that in there by mistake. Uh oh, and that Harry Kane as well. On the back some for the brother-in-law and the the nephew and stuff like that. So I've got a hell of a lot of cards to bring over. Hopefully, I don't get done for uh smuggling at the border. If we stopped at customs, I'd be going through all your cards. I know. There's a ton there. Um and then I said to you, didn't I? I've got that uh off the you know, like people put sales up over here on Facebook groups. There was uh a nice Aaron Rogers number card which I've uh secured. Um so yeah, quite a haul coming to the UK when I come over next month. Yeah, next month, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

Whatever it is. Yeah, when yeah. Later next year. Later this year, that's two and a month.

SPEAKER_00:

I confirm exact dates. Uh um, yeah, so quite a whole. Um, but yeah, like I think yeah, the pet peeve, all this yes, plenty of loads of cards here, but you want a more like free flowing trade, um you know, through through like different people, um, but just end up with So many base cards, but then I guess you know you get to package them up and I'm gonna give mine to my nephew and stuff like that. That's be quite cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm gonna uh I had a good idea this week. You know that uh I think we've some videos of them when you may have like a pack of cards, put like a Kim and Curry business card in leave somewhere. Um I think we'll start doing that and I'll get rid of some some base cards because we can maybe put in a few inserts and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, get some following and get and get people interested.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah, maybe we'll drop some off right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Imagine that, find a little package down the beach or something.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, or uh uh yeah shopping centres, Amex, um football, football grounds, five aside, drop one off at five aside on a Monday night.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah kids will open my package and go, oh I've got seven Jalen Milrose. One's losses, one's gained, eh you go, and if he does well, I won't be mining then.

SPEAKER_02:

100%. I'm just gonna jump in on the We got a bit of lag, have we? Well the technical issues never end here, do they?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh Kim and Curry sports cards. An issue we've never been able to get the bottom of. So if anyone's listening who uh has got experience with um podcast setups, get in touch because don't know what's going on there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, um I was gonna troubleshoot it, but I thought just to to um to bypass it happening, just do it every half an hour, just leave a studio come back and it sort of sorts itself out temporarily.

SPEAKER_00:

Um we don't we we we don't need to troubleshoot it, do we? It's a feature, if anything. If anything for USB, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um right, should we go into should we go into some mail day?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well yeah, I mean I I'll start actually MC, I'm gonna jump straight in there because it is a very short mail day for me. Uh I feel um oh I feel like uh I feel frustrated. I feel very frustrated. I've I've caught myself many a times going out to the post box and just looking in the post box, nothing. Nothingness. Oh, it's been a tough, tough week. But what I can confirm to the millions of listeners is that next week, week this week coming up, I should be receiving two Milro Origins patches, jumbo patches. Um I've requested via his mail post from KCC, my cards is currently holding. Postage has been paid, so hopefully um receiving some nice cards off Nick this week as well. So this week should be good. But I really I got a packet. The only package I've had is from Card Crazy, and is we were looking at seven or eight cards, it wasn't a great deal, but that was obviously the grid irons, that was the highlight for me, so I was very pleased with that. Got me through the week. Um I've said it, I've said it before, I'll say it again. That is a from other products, that'll be a case hit. It's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, top five. I'm looking forward to uh receiving my Jordan Love one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. Uh you'll love it. And then we spoke about that break last week, didn't we, with Nick and um Hamish, uh the origin stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

I did a little had a little I actually cocked up because I'd put I sent a picture of everyone's cards to them, and I for some reason thought that HR had giants. So me and HR did a deal for a card that wasn't even his to do a deal with, thanks to me. So that was uh that was a blow. But then I Nick kindly um allowed me to actually have the card I wanted, which was a uh a Jackson Dart base card. And he is hot stuff at the minute in uh in terms of a football, let's be clear on that.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh there was it.

SPEAKER_00:

No, he's um yeah, he's the last two weeks he's been awesome. But I watched, I don't know if you saw it, but they played Thursday night football, they played Eagles in New York, and uh yeah, they beat them quite I'd say quite convincingly to be honest. But Dart and Scatterbow, uh they seem quite the pair, so he's his stock is gonna be massively on the rise. So any Jackson Dart cards you come across, definitely keep hold of them because I think he's probably got quite a bot uh a bright future. Good to know. So I was quite pleased with that. Um, but yeah, that's really I I think I've oh I'll tell you what I have done. I've bought a there's another sale on Facebook over here, and I bought a I don't know if you've heard of this player, Markbees, um Emmett Smith. He's a uh a bit of a legend running back for uh Cowboys. Yeah, so I bought a uh an Emmett Smith card that was great, PSA graded to 10 uh off someone. So yeah, looking forward to that. I've got a few bits and pieces coming. Uh he's the same guy I got your Aaron Rodgers card off. Ah, very nice. Yeah, so I got that and I got um a couple of Cooper Cup cards, albeit in his uh Rams uniform. Um, but yeah, they were quite nice, so yeah, got a few bits coming. Um but yeah, Mel Day, pretty slow for me. Uh I don't even think I went to top play sports cards, so let a message uh Shane and let him know I'm alright.

SPEAKER_01:

That's it. Yourself. Um so I had on yesterday, I had a super tin number one and super tin number three from the EPL Tops product and the golden boot. Um yeah. Have you opened that yet? All we delivered at the same time, opened them all up in one in one go because I hadn't opened any product for a while. Opened them all up in one go and uh yeah, not great. Uh not great. Um now the golden boot, if people haven't seen it, is exactly why it sounds like it's golden boot with uh like five packs and then a separate pack of seven cards, which are the all the golden boot winners over the years. Yeah. All the top scorers, I think. Anyway, those cards are beautiful, really nice. Um so they're great. But in terms of actually pulling anything, I think I've got finally got the Roy Keane Chrome King. Um I've got another Chrome King, just like the standard one. I think I did see this week, I saw someone pull a Chrome King Auto. Don't know if you've seen one of these with Danny. Oh, nice in his filling kit, and I thought, that's a belter. Um obviously like super rare. Um but yeah, I I pulled um and well, jack shit, actually. Nice guy. So yeah, unfortunately that was really underwhelming, a bit disappointing.

SPEAKER_00:

Um but then what's the actual boot like then? What's it made of? Is it just plastic or yeah, it's just plastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Looks quite good. There's a good promo video of it, um, I think on Sports Direct where they they they film round like you know, like the walls in Sports Direct where they have all the different boots.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Um they pan around.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I'm seeing a picture of it, yeah. The gold one is is there. So yeah, it's just a just a it's it's yeah, a tin, like a you know cheap sort of plastic y. But yeah, it looks quite good. Felt quite good, packaging was great, yeah. Five packs and then uh a separate pack of the golden boots. Um yeah, it's pretty cool. Um something different. Um I'll definitely be keeping the golden boot. Um and then other than that, I actually got a lovely care package from Shout Out to Seaside Sport Cards, Andy. And even then he uh he posted by hand to door-to-door delivery, um, which was super kind of him. He um he reached out and um asked if he wanted one of these. So this came. Yeah. Alexander Alexander Isak, um the tops now look quest he's new number nine.

SPEAKER_00:

Um just send me a picture of that for the insta and we can tag him in that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

Um and sent a message, didn't he, via Insta a bit out of the blue, like asking us if we were interested. And it turned out he he pretty much lives on your doorstep, doesn't he? So he I I got you to reply to him on the the messaging, and you've uh yeah, like he's come and drop you that gear off, which has been quite good. And uh didn't you mention that he's interested in coming on the pod?

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, hand in. He will be on the pod at some point. We're just gonna work out dates um uh and um we can discuss. Yeah, Brighton fan based down here, so it'd be nice to chat to him about his collection. Obviously, he um collects Brighton Brighton cards, Brighton Have Albion, so um I'll be keeping an eye out if I have any decent Brighton cards, um, swinging them back his way to to give him a little uh like a transaction or uh payback the favour. Because he also gave me four other cards as well. Um gave me uh blue parallel rookie card yeah, he's the man, isn't he? He's uh yeah, he's very sought after, isn't he? Yeah. Gave me uh yeah, GlackPro headlines. Nice.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um and then Jamie Carragher, retro. Oh yeah. And then this, even though I obviously got the super tin, I got this card. Um recently, he actually sent me this, and this will go straight to the PC rather than the binder. Stevie G, Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I got that, and then obviously he sent me that, so one of them will go into my um my personal collection, one of them will go into the binder. Um so yeah, thanks, Andy. Appreciate it. Shout out to him. Um look forward to getting you on soon and um yeah, having a good yarn uh regarding this card collection. Um my new favourite one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, um, I've got a question for you. Um so not so much when you're buying packs because you've been well 100% diff different to me. Like I I of course open packs and buy boxes and whatnot, but not on the same what's the word, percentage as yourself, so on more breaks um and singles and stuff like that. And I feel when you're looking at singles and you're doing a lot of trading, comps become quite quite important. But I was thinking um in the week, comps are an interesting one, aren't they? Because obviously there's people will use like um 130 point or 130 point, 180 point, like I said, the other week, but uh yeah, and they'll look at the comps and stuff, or people will look at eBay and things like that, but then obviously you get a lot of uh undocumented trades that aren't through those sites, so essentially it's it obviously it's the last sales, isn't it? But is that a true reflection of where a card is? And are people too um too what's the word head up focused on on those comp prices? And is that dangerous uh if people are just relying on those and not doing their their research of what a card is actually worth? Because there's probably a lot of cards out there that are um perhaps nicer than some that happen to have high comps because someone's wanted to pay for it because they've wanted that card, that then people perhaps miss out on, or because people have then become obsessed with those high, those hot what they deem to be high value cards, if that makes sense. So, you know, is someone's desire to buy a particular card dangerous because it's perhaps having an effect on the card prices? Where would you, in your in your like, you know, with what you've bought when you found your cards on eBay for your Gerrard stuff, have you have you looked at comps? Has that affected your decision, or have you looked at the card and gone, well, I'm I'm prepared to pay in the absence of looking at previous sales, I'm prepared to pay X amount. What what's what's your approach?

SPEAKER_01:

Very good question, first first and foremost. Um yeah, I would say like I'm still like still rookie to sort of pricing cards and and knowing what to pay for it, but I would say that if I see a card I like, I I would do my own research in terms of having a look on vintage, having looking on eBay, how much can I get it on there? Can I haggle on this app, but not haggle on that? It's all dependent on the seller as well, isn't it? I guess. So I guess it's a bit of a two-way street if you you have an idea of how much you want to pay, uh, and how much it's going for, and how much you can maybe get it down to. So yeah, I wouldn't say I am there's been some cards I thought, uh, you know, surviver. I've only seen this card once. I'm willing to pay that to get it so I don't miss out. Um getting it.

SPEAKER_00:

So would you say like the primary driver for you is is is actually whether you like the card. Are you in any way driven by what you believe to be a popular card? So do you think uh you know, like so for me, for example, I feel like I've got you know, I've got my downtown for JSN and I've got some really good rookie cards and stuff like that, but I think somewhere down the line I want a JSN colour blast, so I feel like I'm targeting that card. It's not the best example because they are aesthetically pleasing cards as well, so look really nice. Um maybe a better example is a kaboom. I haven't got a kaboom, and I I feel like I feel like they're not the best cards, but I kind of want one because it's a kaboom. So there's an example of where it's almost dictated by the value and stuff like that that I feel that I need that in my collection. Um, it's just something perhaps I need to think about. But are you primarily driven by the fact that you've seen a card, you like the card, and that's what you focus on?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, I'd say like um obviously there's so many, he's he's had a you know a long career. Um so whereas I'm not collecting someone like Ungamoa, who's like a rookie, there's so much of his cards out there that it's sort of personal preference on what I want.

SPEAKER_00:

They're quite expensive now as well, though, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so what I'm looking for and what I like, obviously I would love to get uh a Gerald Auto, quite expensive. So there's always that hunt for an autograph card. Um got a few numbered cards from him, but um yeah, still building it. I actually got quite a lot now. PC is is uh in a healthy position.

SPEAKER_00:

But looking forward to seeing that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But take take take Engamoa, for example. Yeah, what's interesting about Engamoa is he there was hype with him in relation to the card set. When I think of the top Premier League set this year, I think of Engamoa. I feel like he's I don't know, an unofficial um I don't know what word I'm looking for. I think of the set, I think of him. Uh, because I feel like a lot of his cards have have crept up, especially that that diamond rookie card and stuff like that, and they seem to be valuable. But if you look at reality versus what those cards are worth now and what people are paying for them, there's a there's a big gap because if I think of Liverpool, I want a Mo Salah card, I want a Van Dyke card, um, and and the reasons for that are obvious. Now, I I like Enger Moa as a prospect, um, but in reality, I think he's 17, isn't he? He came on, got the goal against Newcastle, which was huge, but that now seems to have propelled the cards. So if you look at say comps on, let's say, I don't know, a fairly low-numbered card, let's say, on in the top set, the comps will be quite high. So every sale now generally will follow those comps, he'll either pay a little bit more or around that price, and it will keep going up, yeah. But but but in reality, what's the likelihood that he's gonna go on with Liverpool and being a major star? He's still got a lot of work to do, hasn't he? Um, so I would say the money would would probably sit, you know. I would still say his odds on favourite not to reach the level of talent that perhaps the price that people are paying for his cards represent, if that makes any sense. Yeah, when his ability in reality catch up with the price that people are paying, and how do you break that cycle? Because some of them cards are a crazy money. I'd rather take half of that price and buy a card, a Van Dyke card, for example, an immaculate Van Dyke card or something like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, um it's uh a topic we could probably just talk about for hours, isn't it? Because it's like that taking the risk on buying him on the on the basis that he's gonna be a star. Whereas the risk in that is what happens if he falls off. And we've seen it, we've seen it time and time again. You've seen you know, for me going back, Jordan Ibe, he was that sort of player, wasn't it? Tight winger. Um I think probably the last one that we had was probably Raheem Sterling, wasn't it? That sort of player, yeah. Um so if you look back at like Liverpool youth players coming through of that age, it's a slim, it's a slim amount of people.

SPEAKER_00:

It's not easy, is it?

SPEAKER_01:

It's not easy to break through. And you know, being where Liverpool are and the the amount of money that we have and the pool that we've got on on world stars now, it's gonna have to do a lot to break into that team and actually get that position. So no doubt he'll go out on loan at some point. And then he'll come back, and if he does well, breaks into the team, brilliant. If he doesn't though, he'll get frustrated, he'll probably go back out on loan. So likelihood is yeah, it's he's got to I mean it looks amazing, but we can't look into the future like and and go, he's gonna definitely be a star, so your card's still gonna be worth it.

SPEAKER_00:

Sorry, go on, you go.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I've got uh I looked at a card on eBay of his and it was like a signed black edge um out of the hobby box of the EPL tops and it was going for like yeah, six or it was on at eight grand, then we're down to six grand bargain. Um Gamoa? Yeah, yeah. Jesus, yeah. It was a like assigned, I think it was like numbered like one of five maybe. Um but these black edge cards are only come in, I think they only come in hobby boxes. Yeah, so yeah, that's it. And that's that's the risk, isn't it? If you if you I guess that's why people are getting them, and that's that certainly a lot of them are selling them, they're going up because they're at uh they're at a high period, and they'll probably get the the value is at its highest, and then the the future is unknown, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah, but people I just I think people are going in hard on Engamoa, and it's just it's amazing, you know, like you know, getting you know, I was saying to what's I saying to you, Huggins, in the week, I've grown up with football, as in soccer, all my life, like like you, just love it, absolutely love it. I'm you know, I'm a football coach, a ref and stuff like that, but I'm going off it in at that high level to the point that I'm I would I would say I prefer watching Seahawks and the NFL. Uh and there's and that is a show. Why is that? VAR, uh the money, uh the the the the fall of like proper football people, you know, it's now box ticking, so the people you're listening to in studios just talking nonsense. Uh there's just a massive drop-off of interest. I don't think I'm the only one. Um, but but seeing how like what a rookie card means in NFL to a rookie card in the Premier League, if you look at like those diamond, the case hits one in 500 packs, those diamond rookies. Um I was quite lucky enough to get the Brighton one. I don't even know who that guy is. Oh what's I spoke to Huggins about him and he said that he's played one game, like so I feel like a rookie card in the Premier League is so much is it it means so different to the NFL. Um but Ngamoa, I just wonder if people you know why they're going so hard on him is because I I feel like you don't get the rookie the rookie cards don't the odds of them becoming as successful as say like a rookie quarterback is different. You know, it's a totally different game, the opportunities are different, you you're kind of far more advanced in your progress or progression when you get into the NFL as a rookie. That I still think as a footballer in the Premier League, you've got a lot more work to do, and even with Enger Moa, who's the best of that rookie class in tops Premier League. I mean, the odds are still stacked against him, as as you were saying there as well. Um, but I just think, yeah, the money for his cards, um, as you and you know, that that one you saw, as you mentioned, is just insane. I don't think he'll ever catch up to his. I don't know if this is an official term, I'm just gonna make this up, but he's like hype price, I'd call it a hype price, yeah, or the gamble price. Everyone's going, this guy could be the big thing. Uh you know, and um, especially with the new product, and everyone's just lumping on, and it's making the card really expensive. So for me to get an Enger Moa card, like you've got there, you know, you probably have to pay some decent money now. Um, yet in reality, even if I got the card, I'd find it underwhelming because he's still barely featuring or barely having an impact. So it's a it's a strange market for me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's an interesting one. And I and I feel I feel that um I feel like a rookie card in the NFL compared to a rookie card for the Premier League holds a bit more stature, I guess is a correct term. Yeah. Feels like a rookie card in the NFL product is like if you're going back years, you know, if you look at like rookie cards for like years gone by for NFL cards, they're that sort of help.

SPEAKER_00:

They're trying to copy something, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01:

They're trying to copy an established thing, aren't they? Yeah, exactly. They're held in high regard in the NFL world in that card um sector. And obviously they've come over to to the football side or soccer side. And I don't know, the more I pull rookie cards in this top thing, the more I'm just like I'm not overly bothered by the other rookies. Do you know what I mean? Like no disrespect to some of the players like Sunderland rookies. I'm like, I don't know if they're ever gonna they're not gonna amount to well, they might do. Apologies to any Sunderland fans, but yeah. I don't do you know what I mean? Like I feel like if you have like a rookie card in the Premier League like Ngamo or I don't know, somebody else that's that's there I don't know how how I feel about it.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just like oh cool.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't I don't hold any high cards per se.

SPEAKER_00:

Um it's underwhelming, isn't it? And I think you again you you you keep like a lot more of the cards that you buy from the Premier League, but like I was saying to you, you know, the mark I got I got what I got this Mark Flecken, um, and it's numbered. It's I know I've got the Lonzo one, which is good, but this is my first oh sorry, my second numbered card, and it's it's the 499, but it's Mark Flecken. I want to wanna I want to want it, but I just don't want it. I've got zero interest in it. Like it I'll bring it for you because I know that you're you're a bit more accepting, aren't you, in the of the football? Like you you like the sets, but that's predominantly because you're like mainly into that with a bit of NFL, whereas I'm NFL on a bit of that. Yeah, yeah. Um and that's the beauty of collecting, isn't it? Like, you know, you know, talking about the the Jackson Dart rookie, I'm not a New York Giants fan, but there's but that card there, the way he's performing, there's a big likelihood that he'll go on and do well. And that particular card for me is more of an investment. Whereas, like, say the the Gridiron card, it's not his rookie card for JSN. I love that card, that's gonna be my PC, so I'm buying that card irrespective of the value, irrespective of what anyone else thinks about it. That's because I like that card. Yeah, um, and some cards in my collection I like and are rare and have value. So there's a bit of everything there. Um but the Mark Flecken, you know, even if that was even if that was number to 10, I'd really struggle to to want it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um and I find I can't stop the the need to buy the packs. But I in reality, I don't I'm not a huge fan of the product, but that's based on the fact I only want a very small amount that comes out, yeah. So it's not really to do with the product as such. Um so I'm finding that quite hard.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, do you know what I was thinking as well with like the rookie cards in the NFL? I feel like they have more. I don't know if this is if this is right, but in my head, I feel like they've got more opportunities to break into the like make an impact, if that makes sense. Definitely the NFL have more opportunities to impact the the the team. Uh Air Go, the rookie card hold a bit more regard and a bit more value, whereas the opportunity for the rookies in the Premier League is so slim. Like I can't think of another youngster that's that's made an impact this this season, maybe Estav Esteval um for Chelsea who scored a goal. It's Liverpool, him and Gamorra, and that's obviously why they're so sought after at the moment in terms of pricing. Yeah. Um, whereas I mean that's what two two rookies out of so many players in in the Premier League. So I feel like the rookie card is is holding less profile in the Premier League in the top Premier League stuff, in my opinion. Um, because they just don't get the opportunity, you don't see enough of them to for them to make an impact to build their value.

SPEAKER_00:

Well all that said though, there are there are you know a ton of rookies. We I I guess the mistake I'm making to a small degree here is that I'm talking about maybe the rookie quarterbacks, uh receivers and whatnot, but you've got so many more positions, and you get a lot of rookie rookie cards that you that you don't actually want anyway when they come through NFL. Um and and in terms of value, you know, your quarterback's always going to hold the most value, then probably your wide receivers, possibly your running backs. But in Premier League, it's not about that's one thing that goes in the favour of football, as in soccer, is that there's not, I wouldn't say a specific position that might hold more value. I think it's really down to the player rather than the position they play, perhaps. Yeah, so that's one advantage, but yeah, like just it's yeah, like there's not the same opportunity, is there?

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, but I think I saw a clip of um I don't know if you seen but Tim, you know, the Tim Lovejoy from Soccer IM or from Sunday Brunch, him and that old Soccer IM that old soccer IM team have got together and are doing a podcast. Um and Tim Lovejoy was talking about. Oh really? Yeah, and he made a good point about the going back from what did he say, from 19 1994 or 6, something like that, when he started going to Chelsea matches. Yeah. He looked at the statistics between the the squad total then to the squad total now is ridiculous. Like you used to used to have a squad squad before you'd have like 14 players on the match day, that'd be your squad. 11 players on the pitch, three subs. Yeah. So you'd see the same players a lot, whereas now the squads uh double that, triple that, you know, 40 players. So the the the amount of opportunity for

SPEAKER_00:

players that aren't aren't starting lineup players is minimal and if they don't make an impact then they can't there's more pressure on there's pressure on managers as well isn't there like you you can't you you know that you get I mean look at Anj Postacoglu he's gone to Forest and they're already talking about replacing him or is he he's what has he had five six games and there's already talk of uh Sean Dyes coming in so how can a manager look at like your Enger Moas for example probably not the best example for this because we know Enger Moa's getting some games he's on the bench and stuff like that and you know he'll get some opportunity to but he's still got to do the business but how can a manager go into a club and um unless you've got no unless there's no money and you and you know that going in and the expectations will be different but how can you start looking at youth players when you know that your job you you lose five games and you're you're getting that dreaded voter confidence. Yeah yeah it's true it's um double edged sword isn't it you give give these youth players you try and bleed them into the team but I just don't think it happens as much these days like in the in the top flight anyway um it's few and far between you don't see enough you don't see enough of these players go on to to remain at their clubs they'll drop down to a a club they've gone out on loan to or you know drop down a league because they're not you know performing well enough so yeah it's a minefield actually it is um but yeah I I just don't think the rookie cards really work in the in in the Premier League and I think people possibly placing value on them because because it is such an established thing within like let's say American sports I don't think it really matters. I think you know if I look at why I might carry on buying those packs is because I want something low numbered I want Liverpool I might I want an auto something like that I'm I'm not in the Premier League I'm not particularly bothered whether it's a rookie card but that but that said because I've got a ton of JSN rookie cards like going back to the the original gridiron card there that's not a rookie card that's this year but doesn't matter it really doesn't matter to me but then if I didn't have a rookie card it it probably would so it's hard to give a balanced view on that but well I think we did didn't we do a segment on rookie cards possibly when Don was on yeah we touched on it didn't we yeah about what you know another point is in England we don't call them rookies do you know what I mean like no we don't know I've never great point I mean that's a rookie card is is that is NFL baseball ice hockey that's American sports all over that yeah yeah but no one who follows a Premier League goes oh look at that rookie coming through or look at that rookie on the bench it's like a youth player or or something from from the youth development system yeah it's almost like they can I don't know if they didn't decide they just you know took that rookie card whacked into the English Premier League but no one excuse me no one uses that term so yeah it's interesting all round isn't it but in but we said yeah I think we said before like you when's the definitive point when someone's a rookie because in the NFL you've got and like in basketball and whatnot you've got a draft yeah so there's a definitive point when someone's a rookie they get drafted their first year as a rookie year. In in in the Premier League like I I can't tell you if I don't think Enger Moa made his debut this year was it he might have played the League Cup last year and that's what you get with a lot of youth players don't you you get uh um they'll come in and play some cup games and and the and the structure's totally different there's no defining point because they're in the youth league and a lot of them youth players will will come in and play league cup game they might get a couple of appearances on the bench for you know in in a Premier League game and not come on maybe and but there's not really a definitive point when they're a rookie again it's something that's just being forced into into the cards over here isn't it because of the American cards and there's probably no need for it because now we're seeing like if you want like I said if you go back to the original point we're seeing like the Engamoa prices are are are more um I want to sound clever here but it's more like a futures market isn't it rather than I like the card everyone's lumping on because it's a rookie card because they think he might do well but in reality you don't I don't I want to I want a couple of Engamoa cards because I'm a Liverpool fan but I don't want to pay that much money for them. So I'm a little bit in in essence I'm priced out the market currently door closed market is closed our end but yeah what I liked on the match attacks that I was last season was instead of having rookie they had like um I think they had like debut like debut edition or match attacks debut or something on it.

SPEAKER_01:

That's essentially like their first it was uh either someone that came through use system or someone that had transferred to a new team quite like that yeah that's quite that's quite good but yeah the rookie card's a bit I don't know don't don't don't don't think it sort of translates to the Premier League does it but anyway no no I agree um should we should we move on to all about that base let's go into all about the base coming on I love it because I think yeah I need to make up for that that was um my sincere apologies about that that's uh that's no good from me so I've come back this week with two base cards no inserts um now I've gone after all this after all this talk of match attacks I went back through the box the tins of of cards that I had from last season's collection and I picked up this player because he no longer plays with this club uh and I think he set the ground running this season um just another Mr. Jack Greelish there in the Manchester City kit. Oh nice um they are nice cards those aren't they they they're fresh yeah they're cool so yeah that's a don't think we've had a match attacks card in the the binder yet so that's gonna go in and then this this is a belter whoever gets this is a lucky person this is none other than your man recently discussed earlier on in the pod none other than Tomine Oh no Tomina I guess you could call it a dual card because it's two players in one it's Tom and A with a Scotland flag with an Yamatic in a United kit and he's with a Serbian on the front and that's the reflect on the that's a belter that is a belter that's going on so that is essentially a one-on-one might I don't know how I can follow that to be honest might as well go home um I'll go with my first tops um Premier League card I'll go with this because uh quality player I think I've actually uh I think I revealed him to you earlier just takes the sting off it a little bit but it's a lovely card these base cards are really nice and like the border around it's like reflective um quality Liverpool player I'm gonna go Cody Gappoy Gappo base card all about that base that was all about that base and he's um quality player so yeah the collection is uh is coming on isn't it um it's it's uh it's quite a nice collection though yeah it's great and we've had some decent yeah lag back on the lag back on the lag are we back on the lag oh I think we are remove yourself from the studio I'll be back in a second I don't even think I want to fix these technical issues quite funny um yeah it'd be a bit a bit weird now if we didn't have the lag maybe we should change it to all about that lag um that could be a new feature um yeah I'm trying to think what um Rob gave us an interesting card didn't he didn't it was it justina wasn't it the Prime Minister Justina Arden were you there for that? Um I remember listening to the episode what is it a political card is it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah yeah I have to have a look at that keep politics out though dangerous pull that doesn't come into Coomancurry sports cards uh politics can remain right out of it if anyone talks politics they will be ejected from the studio and strongly spoken to in the green room exactly yeah um while you're off I suggested a new feature all about that lag um maybe I'll get in touch with uh the the app that we use maybe I'll troubleshoot with them and if it doesn't work we'll have to uh have a feature no quite all about that lag okay the less the less said about that the better I reckon yeah um before we part ways Mark I think we should have a quick update on the Insta just having a look for the most up to date information or we've gained the follower during the show always positive um let's have a look should we should we reveal who the follower is the lucky follower uh Vince Reedy Vince Reedy Welcome to the club Vince Vince VJR cards has uh has joined us he looks like he's a seller predominantly fast shipping he states make an offer affordable home of the great deal um Vince has 64 posts and he's got 511 followers um and Vince puts us up to 1757 followers on Insta um we're still around that 5000 views across 30 days it does change based on what we're posting so I think now like with the consistency over that last 30 days that's kind of roughly where we are um so it'd be nice to break the I think I got to 49.8 or something thousand views across 30 days I'd quite like to break that 50k barrier so get viewing our content get sharing put us in your stories leave a comment have a yarn have a yarn for the English people at home listening yarn is what would you describe it as as a key return isn't it just a yet just a chat a natter natter yarn love it um yeah what other terms are we talking about earlier choice I told you about that choice and church church chur um key returns yeah tick tock side we're looking at 400 and sorry seven hundred and forty odd so we're on the road to take a look um I'll get it up for you thank you and the pod a lot of Bulgaria content this week um yeah which do you want the do you want the uh official numbers yes please seven hundred and forty three followers okay um but like I said to you before I don't know much about TikTok but I know that you get more views per video so like we look at if I'm looking at your your dashboard now the those memes are getting good response aren't they like you said that one that kind of went viral so 1300 just over 1300 views on that one video alone um can only dream of that on insta um and then the new one which is an absolute belter the Ricky Gervais one what are you doing here that is a you're already sitting on nearly 1500 views for that one that one video so if you look at the course we'll have a look Bulgarian edition I think that's on about 2400 views yep that's right yeah 2470 yeah yeah so that was Delboy didn't go down as well but still good numbers 755 and that's the thing with them I like the fun ones that I make that I'm like this is hilarious.

SPEAKER_01:

Obviously it doesn't translate to other people I think you know everyone's not going to laugh at everything that I laugh at so it's kind of it's quite interesting to see the reactions or the the amount of views and likes from different person.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah keep tr we're keep trying what works and what doesn't but um it's it's all fun David Brent one though that is that is absolutely dumb me because it's all been about tops and the the Premier League and that and for for those who haven't seen it there's the Panini adrenaline cards it's like a little stand and you've put David Brent there saying what are you doing here?

SPEAKER_01:

Not in a racist way I actually almost reacted like that so I went for the self-service check out and Morrison's I didn't see Ethel so I went I went did it myself um and I turned to my left and it's just an adrenaline stand and I thought you've got to be you've got to you've got to be joking.

SPEAKER_02:

Where have you come from?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah and like the um the tops class uh no the what was the top class ones remember them ones M cards yeah they're Panini as well yeah there was a stand for that as well so tops pull your finger out because um there's no stands down there I went into Asda's grew yeah but that's a good uh a good meme but yeah look the the socials are good I'll tell you what I'm getting a bit actually at the minute is um a few people and I just do it so maybe I'm the mug but a few people send me their posts and they obviously want me to add them to my stories which I have been doing and like one guy he sent me a few um and I keep adding them now and he keeps sending them so I've kind of opened a bit of a a can of worms there but I won't name him at the minute but he's been through interactions he's been quite a big supporter of our stuff up until in well not up until including now uh and beyond uh but he's he's like been liking our stuff for ages um but yeah he I've had that from about three people where they want me to share there so I guess they look at uh the followers that we've got and stuff like that um but yeah it's a bit if you know if people are gonna support us we'll support them I get it quite a lot from YouTube channels wanting us to uh subscribe to the YouTube channels and even had one guy asking me for feedback on the content and stuff like that so and then actually as recent as this morning I had a message I'm just trying to get it get it up the message that is um use that joke twice now I can't remember you get to your messages oh here we go he said I don't know what I don't know why I'm getting up just to say this he says he had a little chat he said thank you and I love how you run your account I'll take that right thank you very much and that's uh an account called Dominate the Hobby so give uh dominate the hobby a like and a follow yeah same with seaside sports cards as well follow them um and he yeah we'll get them on the pod soon and um we'll have a good yarn with him yeah right I think that's us for today then isn't it yes sir um only one last thing to do isn't there regards to your family regards to your family see you on the next see you next week

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