YOU WOOD THINK?
Bobby D and Mikey D are 2 Canadians who have been friends for longer than most people are alive and they have teamed up to give their perspective on the world through their lens. We are both licensed professionals in our fields of study and are willing to discuss the hot topics.
YOU WOOD THINK?
Beyond Headlines: Finding Common Ground in This Absurd Age of Division
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The disturbing shooting of Charlie Kirk sets the stage for a candid exploration of America's political divide. We wrestle with the fundamental question: how did we reach a point where violence becomes the response to words? No matter where you stand politically, we agree that dialogue should never be met with bullets.
Truth itself feels increasingly elusive as we navigate a world of AI-generated content. We share examples of shockingly realistic fake videos that blur the line between reality and fiction. When technology can create perfect human faces or manipulate footage convincingly, how do we anchor ourselves to what's real? This technological revolution has profound implications for media consumption and our shared understanding of events.
The conversation shifts to the inconsistent application of consequences for public figures' speech. From Jimmy Kimmel's suspension to past controversies like Gina Carano's firing, we examine how the standards for acceptable speech seem to shift with the political winds. Yet amid this divisiveness, we find hope in the remarkable story of a Black musician who transformed the hearts of KKK members through simple conversation – proving that genuine dialogue can bridge even the deepest divides.
Our wide-ranging discussion touches on everyday frustrations like driving etiquette (roundabout confusion, anyone?), notable passings in entertainment, and concludes with a celebration of the Canadian women's rugby team's historic World Cup victory over New Zealand. Through it all, we return to a central theme: the power of listening, understanding different perspectives, and maintaining civil discourse even when we disagree.
Join us for this thought-provoking conversation about finding common ground in an increasingly divided world. What perspectives might you gain by truly listening to someone with different views? The answer might surprise you.
You Wood Think? Bobby and Mikey D
Episode Introduction and Name Confusion
Speaker 1Bruce was the one.
Speaker 2My wife was convinced my name was Bruce for years, because I never answered my real name and she'd yell out Bruce and I'd be like what? That's pretty funny actually.
Speaker 1Turned a whole bunch of these Klan members into regular people again just by talking to them. Because he's like I don't know where you get the thing and he goes. Well, I grew up thinking that black people were bad, that's what I was told Generational hate. Generational hate people were bad, that's generational hate, generational hate and the guy's like.
Speaker 2You're not even a bad dude.
Speaker 1I had no idea anyway and apparently he turned, like one of the grand wizards, one of the head guys, back to a average citizen and not hating well, if it's true, then you know.
Speaker 2Good on you for being All right. Welcome back everyone. Uncle Frank here with Bobby D.
Speaker 1Bobby D, uncle Frank Mikey D. Call me what you like, either way.
Speaker 2You'll never figure out who I am. No, wait a minute. I don't want you figuring out who I am.
Speaker 1Leave it alone.
Speaker 2Grizzly Adams. My name is Paul.
Speaker 1Kind of yeah, I think so Okay, paul.
Speaker 2Paul, yeah, who was? Oh, wait, my name is paul.
Speaker 1yeah, kind of, yeah, I think so, okay, okay, paul, paul, yeah, who was?
Speaker 2oh wait, bruce bruce was the one. My wife was the one. My wife was convinced my name was bruce for years because I never answered my real name and then she'd yell out bruce, and I'd be like what?
Speaker 1that's pretty funny actually shout out to bruce. Shout out to bruce. All the Bruce's out there. I know one Bruce.
Speaker 2Yeah, I worked with a couple of Bruce's over there, good guys, good guys.
Speaker 1Yeah, one Bruce, professional bodybuilder. You know him too, he's actually from Fredericton.
Charlie Kirk Shooting Discussion
Speaker 2Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I think we're already off topic. We haven't even started.
Speaker 1Yeah, I haven wanted to address, uh, the charlie kirk, because you know, like me and mike were saying off camera, like nobody deserves to be shot over their words, you know no it's not.
Speaker 1This isn't war, this isn't you know whatever. It's just somebody expressing their opinion. So and I was saying to mike, it's like I saw three different videos for they claim there's three different shooters like there's one video said the guy beside him shot him. Then there's nothing. There's a guy up a little higher holding a handheld gun and then the guy on the roof like okay, I mean I don't mean.
Speaker 2I mean really, at the end of the day, I don't need to see any videos of the guy being shot, but regardless, no, but it's just like how that kind of shit makes it so hard. Well, yeah, how do?
Speaker 1you know who even did it, like it was so stupid, and the guys are giving hand signals like you're doing baseball. Yeah, I don't know, like yeah, but ai is so good nowadays like, yeah, it's crazy it's crazy.
Speaker 2I mean you see some that are blatant, very obviously ai edited videos. You see others that you're like you got to look. I don't know if you've seen the ones with the animals, where they it's like it looks like it's a trail cam and the animal comes in. Well, then it fingers you and all of a sudden gives you. It gives you the fingers yeah, I've seen that and it catches you. It really does.
Speaker 1Yep, it does. It's so good. There was a thing on Rogan maybe a year ago and he said you know his guests, they were talking about how good AI is. You want to know how good it is. And then they go do this and they put this up and they're watching. What am I looking at? Like?
Speaker 2there's cities and everything looks it's so I think we talked about this before and I mean, you know we've already gotten again, we've already got here, but the uh, I think it was, I don't know that. I don't know which magazine it is, so I'm not going to say it, but there was a magazine that was using ai models instead of, you know, real life models, right, like instead of real people and and they've already gotten in shit for it as well, oh, it's like because they're they, because people are losing money.
Speaker 2I guess People are losing money.
Speaker 1Well now, you don't get to pay a model.
Speaker 2There's such a danger for promoting such negative body images and everything else as well.
Speaker 1Well, that's another thing, because the AI models I'm sure they're showing are probably 100% perfect, 100% perfect.
Speaker 2Perfect symmetry, top of the line.
Speaker 1Well, that's just it, right yeah that's not how we're made people we're always.
Speaker 2Do you remember? There was like a I think there was a study done on, like on on uh, you know what is attractive, or whatever, and it was yeah, and it's not attractive to me yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it's the perfect symmetry. Yeah, like the eyes are close together.
Speaker 1Yeah and I was like what? No, no I'm not.
Speaker 2No, that is not an energy it goes for, you know, depends on, uh, I guess, where in the world you live. Too right, like well, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah like there's so many different variables that would go into that. So it was interesting to me that they said this is what is considered the definition of attractive it's like 16 old white men decided what it was right.
Speaker 1Yeah, 16 old white men, and they probably pick the blonde blue eye probably right, right, yeah, yeah yeah, that's not what all of us are into, but thanks white guys thanks guys. Yeah, you know yes, but yeah, the charlie kirk thing you know, we're disgusted mike and I are disgusted at the whole thing that somebody has to get shot over speaking you know, then that's the you know, and that's over speaking, and then, and then, now you're seeing like the ripple effects of how each side is reacting to it.
Speaker 1People are losing losing their jobs over it.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Okay Well, you know, not just and not just the high profile, like the Jimmy Kimmel and stuff. Like you're seeing university professors getting fired because of things that they've said. Yeah, so it makes me scared to even want to talk about it right now. Right, Like you know not that we got a him.
Speaker 1We're not going to blame him. Everybody's to blame.
Speaker 2Well, as I was going to say, we're not blaming anybody, but if anything, it's everybody.
Speaker 1It's everybody, right Like the world's just a mess in general. I mean, there's so many hypocrites out there. You know who you are, about different things. Like you say one thing and then it works to your advantage, you flip it around the other way and then you go back and flip it around the other way and OK, you know.
Speaker 2and going back to your video thing, it's like what is even?
Speaker 1Yeah, like even real out there like people.
AI Technology and Media Manipulation
Speaker 2If you're going to like, if you want to look these things up, man, look up. Take the time to go look up the other side of the argument that you already are biased towards, just to see that other side of it Get your facts straight, understand both sides of the story.
Speaker 1So those two big words perception and perspective right, you know you always have your own. You got to see somebody else's right that's right because even you know there's, there's. It goes like this too there's right and wrong, or your, your perception and your perception, and then there's the truth three sides to the story.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, so this char.
Speaker 1So this Charlie Kirk thing, it's horrible. You know he's two young kids and a wife and all he's doing is just talking. It's just, you know, like he's allowed to talk, you don't have to be shot for that.
Speaker 2You don't have to be shot for it. No, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1I mean I'm sure the kid's probably going to go to jail for the rest of his life, oh he, my wife and I were talking about this.
Speaker 2It's in Utah. The death penalty is there.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, it's in Utah. They're calling for it already. The kid's.
Speaker 2What is he? 22 years old, 20-something years old, so they're going to call for the death penalty and they're probably going to get it because they're going to push it through.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I mean he'll be on death row for 20 years or something right? He's going to be on death row for 20 years or something right? Isn't that what it works for? They got an express line down there. I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know, man, I don't know all the state laws. No, I don't either, I'm assuming it is not something that happens instantaneously.
Speaker 1I don't imagine, because you have to go through appeals and all this. Did he do it, did he not? I don't know.
Speaker 2I mean his dad and his grandfather, I think, turned him in. So I don't know. I think it was definitely a family, it was definitely a family member they recognized.
Speaker 1I'm not exactly sure, but I think it was like maybe they they talked to him, if I'm thinking directly, I think they spoke to him said you need to do the right thing and you know I don't pretend to know the whole story because, again, I don't know the whole story, because we don't know what's true but I did see that he had written stuff on the bullets about being a fascist or something. Did you see that story?
Speaker 2I've seen the story. Yeah, yeah so we?
Speaker 1I don't know what's true, you know? I mean I'm like I said, I'm assuming that's the shooter.
Speaker 2I guess you know yeah but it's, you know, with it's the fact that it's becoming normalized, for well, neither one of us for this to be the reaction to your disagreement, right or or sorry, you're okay maybe?
Speaker 1Your mindset, how you grew up, because you don't see something the same way somebody else does, and so it's.
Speaker 2you know it's them or us. You're either with me or against me, whatever the mindset is. It's just there's no more open forums for conversation, for you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I just don't understand how that happened over time, but it's just people trying to dominate you and I don't agree on like a lot of stuff, but we don't ever.
Speaker 2We talk about it If we don't agree. We don't turn it into a big thing and be like, hey, I'm never talking to you again, there's no need to do that. Like you're allowed to have your what they say like ask, asking questions.
Speaker 2You don't understand, somebody's point of view or beliefs or whatever. Like why do you feel that way? Why do you, you know? Like, explain it so that you can at least understand it. Don't just automatically go, you're wrong. And if you're going in armed with the argument to prove them wrong, well, you're never going to get it well, that's not open-minded, that's right.
Speaker 1Right, yeah, it's like I said, there's always two sides. There was one thing I I saw on a podcast a while back, quite a few years ago. It was a black dude, he was a musician and uh, he was down in like I'm gonna say kentucky, but I'm not sure exactly, so don't quote me on that. He was down somewhere doing a gig. He's a pretty good musician, a black fella, and he goes into the bar and he's the only black dude in the bar. And some guy approached him and asked him a couple of questions and the guy says hey, why don't you sit down? And the black guy says I'll buy you a drink. And he's just talking to him and he goes, yeah, no, but then he goes yeah, I'm in the clan, okay, if you don't know what that is, you know looking up it's not a good thing for a lot of people.
Cancel Culture and Public Figures
Speaker 1Just started talking. He goes I never thought in all my years I'd be having drinks with a black fella. He goes you're okay for being black. And then turns out this guy went on Rogan afterwards and then I saw on Rogan. Yeah, on Rogan that apparently he turned a whole bunch of these clan members into regular people again Just by talking to them.
Speaker 1Because he's like I don't know where you get the thing, and by talking to them, because he's like I don't know where you get the thing and he goes. Well, I grew up thinking that black people were bad, that's what I was told Generational hate. Generational hate. And the guy's like you're not even a bad dude, I had no idea, anyway, and apparently he turned, like one of the grand wizards, one of the head guys, back to an average citizen and not hating.
Speaker 2Well, if good on you for being open minded. I think he wrote a book or something too.
Speaker 1It's quite impressive, and he's still doing it.
Speaker 2Oh good.
Speaker 1It is what it is. If that can happen, just talk to people. You've got to also wonder the young fellow that did it maybe wasn't all there at the time, maybe he saw something, I don't know. If you had to shoot somebody like that and premeditated and have it all set up, you're really thinking about doing something bad, yeah.
Speaker 2That's what it's.
Speaker 1it's tough, like you know everybody you know well maybe because of this, maybe because of that at the end, of the day.
Speaker 2Does it matter what his reason was? He pulled the trigger and killed you know, you think you have it all under all figured out at 22, right? Who's got it all figured out at 22, right? I'm almost 50 and I realize the older I get, the less I have figured out.
Speaker 1Man, yeah, that's right, and all of a sudden there's another curveball, that's right, right, you never know, yeah, you never know yeah, but you know I mean that led into like we were saying about the colbert they can't canceling him at the end of the year. And then jimmy kim they axed him immediately, I think.
Speaker 2What is it they pulled? Him off the air indefinitely, or whatever it is, I don't know, something like that anyway.
Speaker 1So whatever he said too, I mean, you know he has an open platform, I guess, but words have consequences for fellows that are making that kind of money.
Speaker 2I guess that always comes back to that right, it's like you know. It always comes back to that right, it's like you know. Do I think Kimmel deserved to be suspended? Not calling him fired, let's say suspended, because I don't think they've fired him yet.
Speaker 1No, but do I also think, gina?
Speaker 2Carano should have been fired from Disney. No, what she said was, you know, in my mind, stupid, but I don't think she should have been fired. But that's you know. So now we're seeing. You know there was in the argument back then too was the argument was consequences for your actions, right For your words.
Speaker 1Well you're if you're not even allowed to talk. Like you know, she wasn't badmouthing anybody. She was just saying how she felt about a situation.
Speaker 2There's blurred lines now.
Speaker 1I guess that's it. Guess, I mean, you're allowed to have feelings professional life. But you know like companies have I mean companies have uh you know, uh, ethics, and, and, and, and. Let's be honest. So when you start throwing around the nazi and holocaust, a lot of people are going to get upset right right, that's, you know, like that's, that's, that's the deep thing but, unless you call me kanye're Kanye West, then you can write a song about what? Is it High Hitler or something like that? I don't know.
Speaker 2Kanye yeah.
Speaker 1He gets, I don't know, Anyway, whatever, but yeah, so these guys are getting canceled and suspended and I'm sure there's going to be a chain right A couple more people.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think you and I were talking offline and I said I you know, I think it was when I can't remember what john stewart was, uh, when he was receiving the mark twain prize or whatever it was, and he was the old john he had said he had said something about comedians are always the first domino to fall or something like that, when you start to witness the fall of the democracy, right like, and it's sure, because the platforms they have and then and their style of uh getting their message out there, guess is usually to go at people. Go at you know.
Speaker 1Well, that's what gets the laughs right. You know, like you got to remember people. Our podcast isn't real either. It's not real. It's satire and comedic and we're just having a good time.
Speaker 2We've said millions of times we don't know what we're talking about. Sometimes we don't, sometimes we do, If you're lucky to get the right episode good on you. Yeah, we're just throwing shit out there. It is what it is.
Speaker 1Yes, If it sticks to the wall like pasta, that's it right, right Back in the day. Now it's been 40 years since, since I was avert, what uh? It's been 40 years since the giant earthquake in mexico a lot of people don't know about. That was a real bad one. It's 8.1 uh, back in 85, and I was just a young man then, but I remember jesus christ man. Yeah, I was thinking god, 40 years ago.
Speaker 2Yeah, like well, why are we talking about? This was before I was born. Nope, nope, damn it man you never were good at math no, no how many fingers do you need? You can count the 21 with your pants off right 40 years ago I was like, what's the 60s?
Speaker 1right anyway, so yeah yeah, so 12 000 people perished and that they don't know the exact number, but it was horrible, changed the landscape of the whole city and everything down there in mexico city, but uh, well, I mean, we were in new zealand, it felt that was 40 years ago today well, not exactly today, but around this time 40 years ago. Yeah, but what I was gonna say? We were in new zealand. I felt a couple things shaking bro around town and when I was in kuwait I felt my car shaking yeah, yeah also.
Earthquakes and Celebrity Passings
Speaker 1So you know, an 8.1 can't even imagine that I think, even the biggest I felt when I was in new zealand was the oh god, what was it like?
Speaker 2that hit the Wellington area and I was living there. It was about six, four or six, five, which was a lot it was that. Christchurch brutal right, yeah, Shallow, Uh yeah, Um anyway, yeah, it was bad man yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah. So I mean, you know hate talking about people passing away, but that's what happens as you get older, right? So there, people passing away, but that's what happens as you get older, right? So there was a famous boxer, ricky hatton. His name was mike, I know you kind of knew who he was, but not really watch his fights. People used to make fun of him call him ricky fatten because in the off season he'd blow right up and he whatever he wanted yeah, but you know, I understand what that is because I've did some yo-yos back and forth, never really got fat.
Speaker 1But you know I managed to blow up and you know just just his older fellow, then was he yeah, yeah, heart attack I believe is all it was, but we don't know why. And then, of course, you know, the biggest heartthrob in the history of hollywood, for the longest time, robert redford, redford, yeah died at home around his family.
Speaker 2So good on him I think he was 89 he was up there.
Speaker 1Yeah, he was. I personally, I didn't even know he was still around well, I knew he was still around.
Speaker 2He was in the Marvel movies there, right.
Speaker 1For a while At least one.
Speaker 2Yeah, at least one, at least one. Yeah, maybe it was just one.
Speaker 1Yeah, good old Robert Redford. Good look of fellow in his younger days there.
Speaker 2Good actor, good director.
Speaker 1Yeah well, that's what a lot of these guys. I just saw a thing of Ron Howard the the other day. I didn't realize how old ron howard is. He's up there too man.
Speaker 2He was, like you know, richie cunningham on the I know happy days back in the. Was it the 70s I guess. Oh man, what a great show, what a great show 60s, 70s?
Speaker 1I'm not even sure. All I know is we want 70s into the 80s.
Speaker 2Maybe let's call it that.
Speaker 1And then he just vanished from the in front of the camera and became the big man behind the camera. Right yeah, what was his? Oh, the movie, sorry, not movie. The series Arrested Development with the good Canadian fellow there, jason Bateman was in that. He's like the oldest brother trying to hold the whole group together. Sure, but that whole.
Speaker 2David's not Canadian, is he? What's that? He's not Canadian, is he?
Speaker 1Yeah, jason Bateman, yeah, that whole nice car, what's that?
Speaker 2he's not canadian.
Speaker 1Yeah, jason baby, yeah canadian yeah, yeah, yeah and uh I didn't know that. I don't yeah yeah, well, a lot of people probably don't know that, but uh, the the narrator in that was ron howard. Yeah, that whole show, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that when I watch it at at the time right, but I'd re-watch it oh my god, that's ron howard's yeah, yeah, what a hell of a job he did in that too.
Speaker 1It was fantastic. But yeah, and I'll tell you something else, I just finished watching it a couple of days ago on Netflix, called Black Rabbit. The two main characters are Jason Bateman again and Jude Law, and it's a hell of a series it's like 8 episodes. It is quite something. I didn't either it just fell into the feed.
Speaker 2Bateman was in. Is he also in that show, Ozark?
Speaker 1I've never seen that either One of the best I've ever seen him do was Ozark. He's better in Black Rabbit. He plays a dirtbag, but he's a good dirtbag. It's crazy. They own a bar and then something happened. He got ousted, and then he comes back and then a whole bunch of things go down and it's good man, it's good.
Speaker 2Yeah, whenever we get around to getting Netflix again, I'll have to watch it. When the winner shows up, I'll add it to the next Netflix list. Yeah Well, that's how you know I always get.
Speaker 1Uh, friends are texting me from overseas. You got to watch this one bro, you got to watch this one. I knew one of the called black beauty or something. Yeah, my friend sent it to me. He says you got to check it out. They're like all gangsters and it's crazy and I yeah, that was what was that? Was that a series on TV? I?
Speaker 2think it was a book series, like a novel right Black Beauty.
Speaker 1Black Beauty might have been.
Speaker 2Well, it's a book, and then I don't know if it's a series or not.
Speaker 1Most things are books, right yeah, but then they've made it into a movie, multiple times also, I believe.
Speaker 2so I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1Was it a show on TV, the only horse show I can Talking? Horse it was a talking horse, but the other one, of course, was the Lone Ranger. Oh yeah, with you know Hi-Ho Silver and Kimo Sabe.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, tonto and Tonto, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1The whole nine yards. The remake was actually awesome. With what the hell was his name? Mike, the guy that played in the Facebook, the two twins.
Speaker 2What's his real name? Hammer Facebook, the two twins. What's his?
Speaker 1real name Hammer Armie Hammer, armie Hammer, armie Hammer, armie Hammer. Yeah, he was a great long ranger.
Speaker 2Yeah, didn't he turn out to be some guy that was, I don't know. They thought he was a cannibal or something like that. Yeah, he wanted to bite girls, or something. There were some text messages and then he kind of vanished and he vanished yeah kind of vanished, and he vanished, yeah, and then there was all that cultural appropriation with johnny depp playing tonto instead of actually getting the native american to play the. Johnny did well, though he did well yeah, he always does.
Speaker 1Well, that guy could fit into anything yeah yeah, yeah, but uh, yeah, that was uh that black rabbit's pretty good all right, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2Like I said, I'll have to add it to the list.
Speaker 1I like jason bateman yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think yeah, you know what else is he winning?
Driving Etiquette and Road Rules
Speaker 2that's that good, I'm uh well, he was in that movie, horrible bosses, which is quite funny. If you haven't seen that, that was funny. That was, uh, one and two. What's the one two that he's in where he's like um, I don't think he's a teacher, but he's, he's just a real prick and he's with the kid but he's like, so mean to the kid, like big brother, like I can't remember what it was called.
Speaker 1He was in a recent movie where it was Carry On or something like that. It was about an airport and he was trying to get something through and they had to pay off people and do some shifty stuff. He's playing dirtbags now. He plays a good dirtbag, dude, I'm telling you, Black Rabbit is killing it. He's got long hair and there's a full beard on him and he's all thinned out.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, hair, and there's a full beard on him and he's all like thinned out.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeah yeah, it looks like he's hitting the gym or something.
Speaker 2Well, there, you know, if you find that kind of typecast, look at liam neeson man. The guy got did the taken movies and he got typecast in that and he's still making those. Actually, you're gonna laugh at this I would just start.
Speaker 1What the hell's the name of it? I just started watching about 10 minutes in ice road vengeance or something like that he's no, it's not a new, it's not a newer one okay, it's not a newer one, but it's one I never saw. And he's in this one and he's, of course, he's hunting, he's an ex-police or whatever and he's hunting down somebody else, but in this one he gets his ass kicked the whole time.
Speaker 2Oh, does he okay I'm like well, that's different, different. Did you sign on for that one? Because usually he's the one kicking some ass yeah, I have a specific set of skills specific. I have a specific set of skills and I don't know who I am, but I will find you. You know one that I re-watched recently, His I hadn't seen in ages. I just wanted to watch it. It was Rob Roy. If you've never seen it, you should watch it.
Speaker 1I haven't.
Speaker 2The pirate movie. Tim Roth is in it. No, it's not a pirate movie. It's a very, very well done movie, is it.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, it's really a toll, it was around the same time that Gladiator came out?
Speaker 2I think as well.
Speaker 1Oh well, gladiator would have took the spotlight on that one wouldn't it, oh God?
Speaker 2yeah.
Speaker 1Well, I mean Liam Neeson. How many times does that bitch get taken?
Speaker 2His daughter a couple of times.
Speaker 1Well, the daughter only gets taken the first time and then the wife gets taken the second time and I can't, can't remember what. Come on, man, like after the first movie, the granddaughter maybe, I don't know. Get your head around it a little bit like hey, paco at the airport, hey, we need a ride.
Speaker 2Well, you know the first one happens and then all of a sudden, I think the next ones are all consequences of the first one, right? So you know he's killed somebody.
Speaker 1That now the family, brother, the brother or whatever the guy who gets killed, now comes after him the exact vengeance and the algerians are looking like bad people in those movies, right, but yeah, it's good I like the taken movies, other entertaining other entertaining.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's, he's quite something, yeah. But uh, I saw uh on the news that uh, rush rush is doing a little flyby over estonia, like and not just like flying over, like kind of hanging. Doing a little flyby over Estonia, like and not just like flying over, like kind of hanging around a little bit.
Speaker 2Yeah, they were. You know they've had drones into the. Polish airspace as well.
Speaker 1here Now, people are probably thinking Estonia's a real place. It is all right. So if you were to look at a world map and of Russia, you would see. Don't quote me on this, I'm gonna do my best, all right, I believe it goes like norway, sweden's here, and then you got poland, and then on the bottom side of poland, I think it goes like estonia, latvia, belarus, ukraine, something like that. Don't quote me, I'll get the tech guy to put something up here, or whatever lichtenstein's probably in there as well.
Speaker 1So our, our tech guys on holidays right now, but I'll get them to stick that picture up, born and raised in northern new brunswick.
Speaker 2Sorry, my geography is as good as as good as a. You know wherever a movie takes place show me on a map. I saw that on a movie once.
Speaker 1I don't think it's real, though there's, there's this mall in malaysia that we go to because it's a close close to where we. Well it's, it's owned by the whole college and university, it's a city, right the whole. They own everything. So, but the mall is so big I was always worried to go by myself. Oh, I know, as stupid as that sounds, because my directionality is not very good, because in malaysia I never drove, I had somebody driving so I would always just sit in the back and just chill out, you know, not really paying attention. Oh, there's a hey old brewery, or yeah, you know see something, but that mall I go in. And so every time I go in with somebody else, just like well, I think it's this way.
Speaker 1They're like, no, it's not, yeah, like that okay, so I'm gonna follow you, and then we'll find our way out sooner or later.
Speaker 2So when we first moved to edmonton though the west edmonton mall no, it wasn't the west edmonton mall, but it was just like we went in. I had to. I was going to get my hair cut. We found a barber shop. Uh, they didn't have a debit at the time, so I had to go get.
Speaker 1We had to go get cash and so I'm in getting my hair cut. So I said to my wife you mind going to get cash.
Speaker 2We just saw a bank machine at the mall. Oh no, anyway, I don't know. Half an hour, 45 minutes goes by no, and I'm like oh no. And I said I can't remember what I said, I'll leave something with you, Like you know. And he's like no, no, I trust you, I trust you. So I went out, sure enough, went in, one door, came out a different door, completely left out. We had just moved to Edmonton.
Speaker 1So understandable, but at the same time, yeah.
Speaker 2Could not find the barber was, and so I had to go track her down. And yeah, sense of direction is not the greatest. Getting better now she's driving. She's getting better right once you have a reason to pay attention to directions right.
Speaker 1It's a difference, so you know driving around more now like oh okay, there's this and then, oh yeah, that's where that is, and this kind of thing. But yeah, directionality is always an issue. Yeah, that's why all the new cars have the little map you can look off or you can plug your phone in and it will show the map and then talk to you and all that good stuff Turn right now.
Speaker 1That's right. I'll tell you something. If you don't know where you're going coming here, if you come off that highway and take that I think it's 2A or 2B to come in, it's this long Like to make that turn, like if you're blink you're going to miss. They need to fix that, man.
Speaker 2How many accidents have there been there?
Speaker 1I was thinking, cause I know where I'm going, but I'm thinking, if you don't know where you're going, it's such a short exit. Yeah, you know what I mean, right that?
Speaker 2one I know and it's bad because sometimes you get frustrated with the person not making the right decisions but, like you.
Speaker 1You'd have to. Don't slam your brakes on. Put your reverse in a row because you missed your turn off.
Speaker 2Go round, turn around, come Back, right. But it's yeah anyway.
Speaker 1Yeah, so we're gonna talk about cars a little bit. So just some quick questions. Rules of the road, mr Michael, rules of the road. So if you don't know the rules, I'm gonna teach you some rules right now. Number one if you back't know the rules, I'm going to teach you some rules right now Number one, if you back out onto OOT, OOT, where the hell, am I from right?
Speaker 1OOT and a boot If you back out into a main road or through way that is faster than 60, that is against the law. Okay, now, they don't really ticket that, but if it causes a problem they will ticket you, okay, so not only that. Now number two I got a bunch here.
Speaker 2These are all things that just happened to you in the last couple weeks.
Speaker 1No, but I did some research because we were talking about some people that did some things to you driving. So another one is this If somebody is trying to pass you and you speed up and don't let them pass, or slow down and don't let them pass, you're going to lose your license on that one. That's a really bad infraction. You cannot do that. I had that happen to me just yesterday and not just that they pulled up.
Speaker 2They saw me coming up the passing lane, pulled out in front of me. Okay, you want to pass the car?
Speaker 1Let's go. You're right, yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, you're in front of me then they.
Speaker 2What they did was then they pulled out to stop me from passing, but then match the speed of the car in the other lane and then just stayed with them the whole way.
Speaker 1Right, that's crazy yeah and then.
Speaker 2So then it was just like, okay, well, I have to pull in now. Now I have to pull in because I was good, you know, eventually coming up, my turn off right, but I was annoyed, right, because it's just well why it seemed I didn't understand somebody do yeah yeah.
Speaker 1Would somebody do that yeah, which, again, I don't, it's dangerous for everybody.
Speaker 2You know, yeah, it was definitely dangerous Like they pulled.
Speaker 1They saw me coming, pulled out.
Speaker 2Like, and they didn't have a lot of time to pull out, they just pulled out Right and then I don't know if it was on purpose or not down to stay with the other car. That's where I thought it was on purpose as opposed to just, uh, an honest mistake or something okay, well, I'll give you another one.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, you know we're gonna go with honest mistake, but most of the time it's just plain foolishness. You don't even think that you're doing something wrong, really, but you're doing wrong. So I had. I finally took my car in to get fixed right. So that's why I got, uh, don't have that car right now. But uh, when I was going I am in a roundabout, okay, a lady stopped, oh yeah.
Speaker 1In the roundabout to let somebody in and I was like what, what do you do with like this? And then the guy behind me. I'm like okay, so anyway. So I'm like I know you can't do that.
Speaker 2I looked it up, you definitely cannot do that, the whole design of the whole design of the roundabout.
Speaker 1Maybe I'm not right on this no you're definitely right. Okay, the only time you can stop in a roundabout is if there's construction, and you have to. That's the only People. Being nice in a roundabout is not the way to go on this, okay.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1Now I don't mind letting anybody in, you like it's cool, I got no problem with that, but not when you're doing that kind of thing like we've had that happen to us in around a little before too. And you can't help it. The brakes go on and oh yeah, I did this, yours, did you kind of looking in your mirror?
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm waiting to see if the guy behind me is paying attention to clip up, you know, yeah, right, another, another, another white knuckle, oh man.
Speaker 1But yeah that, please, people do not, do not stop. Uh, all right, so on the same, okay, on the same drive, on the same drive. So I'm going, uh, this is towards darkmouth, called windmill road, the uh collision centers out there, right? So that's a shitty drive. Anyway, there's a lot of traffic in that area yeah.
Speaker 1And so I'm going to this big white truck like not a transport truck, but you know white, you know construction truck. Whatever it's not construction, it's somebody's own truck. There's white truck behind me. Okay, no problem, I'm doing about a hundred or five. All right, they come around me, they pull into a hundred. Okay, why, why would you do that? Right? So they went around me and then they got slower in front the whole way. So now I'm behind this truck and the car's like okay, so now we're down to 80. They're like come on, man, I can't get out. There's so many cars, so finally get out and I go out and the guy comes behind me, follows me out again. I wish this was not true. I pull in, he pulls back and again does 90. Oh, he's using you as his chase car.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, so anyway the whole way in and I'm like, what, what now? And then I finally get a look at the. Oh, he's using you as a chase car, yes, yeah. So anyway, the whole way in and I'm like, and then I finally get a look at the guy, he's probably 80 oh yeah, you know, maybe he didn't realize what he was doing or he couldn't see.
Speaker 1I'm not mad, but I'm just thinking, why would you do that? And then I'm like, okay, you get a pass. Yeah, you get a pass because he didn't do it maliciously, he wasn't trying to run me off the road or anything like that.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, so it's tough. You got to always try to be. Driving is rough it is rough right, like I know it's right you know, I bet so many cars driving for a long time, and so you kind of you kind of realize that things that are second nature to you aren't to somebody that doesn't drive that often, or just learning, or whatever, right so well, just coming here not knowing where you are if you're in a different city.
Speaker 1Yeah, those are all those things, right yeah, just coming here, there was probably a line of 10, 15 cars behind the one that was in front of me. All the way back they were driving literally like it was 70. They were like 68, 69, I'm gonna get to 60 like 58, 59. Yeah, they come down, put the brakes on going downhill oh yeah, okay, and then I got by them again. Another elderly couple yeah, you. And I'm like they probably didn't know. I understand.
Speaker 2Well, they're trying, they're like I got to stay at the speed limit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1But I think what a lot of people don't know is 10 over, nobody's going to bother you. Yeah Right, and that's why they're like why are so many people up my rear end? Well, that's pretty harsh. Over the speed limit, that's hard.
Speaker 2But there's like on on long weekends, there's always like multiple fatalities on the road right. So it was. You know, I mean it's, you know, I think you know it's probably a universal thing. Um, you know, I think we talked about this before when we were in.
Speaker 1Indonesia, the first time we went like we got off and vietnam got into the driver taking us to the, to the resort.
Speaker 2It was um yep, oh man, we were so puckered up because it was, but, like I always say, the best way I can and describe it is organized chaos, right, but they all but they none, it was never them getting into the accidents.
Speaker 1It was the locals right they're not the the, it was the foreigners, right, the visitors like they were getting because they did all those bikes, man, and then people walk in between and it's just, it's like it's an everyday thing.
Speaker 2All right, you would.
Canada's Historic Rugby Victory
Speaker 1You would think you know, oh, it's only in the movies. No, it's real. I have videos of it in the taxi going. People are not going to believe that I gotta get this yeah like. And the guy's like are you worried? I said no, man, I said I trust you, but I said this is bananas bananas yeah yeah, you know, speaking of bananas, go canada, go canada well, all right, if you don't know, and you're not a rugby fan, you're going to be in a minute. Yep, go ahead, mike.
Speaker 2Yeah canadian women's team yesterday beat the new zealand team rugby women's rugby world cup. Uh, and in fairness, you know underdogs.
Speaker 1Canada canada's ranked number two no, canada's ranked number two. New zealand is number three.
Speaker 2Right now three right twas the Troisiem, troisiem. The big thing is that in the World Cup the New Zealand women haven't lost. I think what did we say? It was? It was like 4,000, and some days they hadn't lost a game.
Speaker 1Yeah, eight years, but they hadn't lost a single World Cup match to date.
Speaker 2So they cockiness get you Listen. Hey, I live in New. Zealand. New Zealand are not cocky.
Speaker 1We know that we're just joking, but Canada's a really good team.
Speaker 2But Canada is an amateur team that had to crowdfund just to be able to go to the.
Speaker 1World Cup, which is disgusting.
Speaker 2Anybody that does see this. Canada will play the winner of England-France in the World Cup finals next Saturday. So pay attention, if you're not, we're going to win. It was a really good game. Not only that, to show you the dominance of New Zealand, Canada beat them 34-19. This is the largest victory against any New Zealand women or men's game in any World.
Speaker 1Cup Ever in the history of the world. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2Go Canada. Well done girls.
Speaker 1Women, sorry, women, women, ladies. Well done.
Speaker 2Yeah, and it was just. I was watching the game in the pub yesterday and man, it just looked like such a good game. They just dominated.
Speaker 1I only saw the highlights. They just dominated.
Speaker 2It was well played, Well you were mentioning.
Speaker 1You're mentioning that they come out fully aggressive. That's the way to do it. They come out. Yeah, you can't come out slow Caught, new Zealand flat-footed.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think the commentator was saying the New Zealand defense is like Swiss cheese right now right Fantastic. Canadians, just you know, do it one more time, girls.
Speaker 1One more time, women. Sorry, One more time women. Let's do it Next week. It'll be this week coming up. Yeah, it'll be this week.
Speaker 2By the time this airs, it'll be this week. So yeah, england's one Number one, I think. They're a good team Canada two, new Zealand three and I don't know. France is four or what.
Speaker 1Well, France is also good. All those four are also good in the men's. They are Well, not Canada. Well, we do good in the sevens.
Speaker 2We're really quick, I think the last I think we can tell this story before we sign off here and I was living in New Zealand. We went to the World Cup when I was there that year and New Zealand was playing Canada.
Speaker 2You got the awesome jersey and you know like you know for Canadians, when we're playing hockey, we always think we're going to, we'll figure this out, we'll pull this out, you. This is our sport. That's right, it's Canada. We're watching the game and Canada scores the first three points of the game against maybe it was even the first try against New Zealand, and one of my friends sitting beside me was like, oh no, this isn't good, and I bursted out laughing. I was like are you shitting me? Do you really think?
Speaker 1Canada just scored now they're.
Speaker 2They had a final score and it ended up being something like 73-3 or something crazy. Go look it up. I don't know what the final score was, but it was not close.
Episode Closing and Where to Listen
Speaker 1It was not close.
Speaker 2So, anyway, it just shows you the Kiwi mentality. They always think they're going to lose.
Speaker 1That's great. Even though they're so dominant, they're such a good rugby team. Good people, right? Good people.
Speaker 2Fantastic people. I love them Speaking yeah here we go Shout out to the gripper Paramount of eels. Another thing sent to us from that's New.
Speaker 1Zealand rugby team. If you didn't know, which most people probably don't- know, Right. So there you go. All right, so once again, you can catch us on Buzzsprout the Apple podcast is there, then you have Spotify and, of course, on Muscle and Fiction with myself. Coach Bobby, that's still humming along, yeah.
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