From Blue Jays Mania To NBA Gambling Scandals

A couch, a city, and a swing that shook the country. We start with Jays euphoria after a 12–4 win and a pinch-hit grand slam that felt ripped from a movie—complete with the human detail of a hero sleeping on a teammate’s pullout because his family took his place. The joy was real, the sixth inning was chaos, and the next day’s media whiplash after a loss raised a sharp question: are we celebrating substance, or surfing hype?

From there, the tone hardens. We unpack alleged NBA gambling ties, rumors of X-ray poker tables, and the thin line between competition and corruption. What’s the difference between betting on yourself in a fight and manipulating rotations to protect a prop? When coaches’ choices can swing overs and unders, trust is the first casualty. We talk ethics, incentives, and why lifetime bans aren’t the whole story—the real risk is a league where every big night looks rigged.

On the floor, the spectacle is undeniable. Wemby changes angles other players can’t see, Zion’s power returns, and Luka fills the box score while defenses sag behind. Records fall nightly, but many feel paper-thin, born from stat-slicing more than true rarity. We question the “chuck rule” that hides end-of-quarter heaves, the copycat celebrations that teach bad habits, and the ref-barking that slows transition. Greatness is more than makes; it’s timing, context, and restraint.

We cool down with a dose of nostalgia—Predator’s big-screen return and a quick tour through voice acting’s rise from cartoons to console epics—before closing with listener updates and where to find us. If you care about sports integrity, player culture, and what we’re teaching the next generation, you’ll find plenty to push back on and plenty to cheer for. Subscribe, share with a friend who lives for late-game drama, and drop a review with your take: what’s hype, what’s history, and what line should never be crossed?

Transcript

Jays Fever And National Bandwagoning

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey everybody, welcome back to You Would Think with uh Bobby D and Mikey D.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Yes, it is.

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And uh so basketball has started, my good man.

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Basketball has started. Yeah.

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And I hit my microphone. Sorry, tech guy.

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Couple games in.

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Yeah, a couple games in. Uh I don't know where to start. Actually, you know what? Before we hit basketball, let's go with Go Jays. Okay. Yeah, I was about to say it's probably the biggest story in Canada's. Yeah, it is. It's the biggest story known to mankind.

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All the non-baseball fans are watching baseball.

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All the people how why is he running so fast?

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Canada's team, it's pretty sad. I mean, we did the same when the when the Raptors, you know, were in the finals, everybody and their dog.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Yeah, we didn't, bro.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

But I'll tell you one thing, you know, I know we'll go back to the blue jays in a second, but I will tell you there's uh I I remember when the the last two years the Oilers have been in, and I living in Edmonton, uh, you know, I'm a oilers fan. I followed it. Uh I root for them all the time. And uh anyway, and then uh so I said, well, if you know the oilers are even gonna cheer for the Oilers, so many people are in here going, no. It's like, but why not? It's like because we don't have just the one Canadian team like we do in baseball, like we do in basketball. Yeah, that's everybody multiple teams and people just like I'm not cheering for Oilers, or you know, same with when the Canucks were in, I'm not cheering for the Canucks, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

That's funny, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11

Yeah, but it's it's it's kind of funny how you know, for these sports where we have one team, every the whole nation will rally around them, but in hockey, nope, not gonna do it, right? You can see that's the thing, you know. Anyway, back to the blue back to the blue days.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Well, the joke in Asia was people saying, but Raptors say they have a team, don't know.

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Vancouver's a team that didn't that folded.

The 12–4 Win And Pinch-Hit Grand Slam Lore

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so the Jays, you know, came off that uh fantastic win, 12-4, lots of home runs and stuff.

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And everybody's the sixth inning was crazy. Yeah, crazy. Nine and nine nine runs and six six.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Nine runs, yeah. Grand Slam.

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Grand Slam, yeah. Said first time ever that a pinch hitter is hit a grand slam.

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Not only that, do I have a story for you? Listen to this. Uh I just got this by somehow. Uh uh, so anyway, so the guy I don't know his name, I'm sorry. Uh tech guy put it right here. Uh, the guy that hit the pinch, uh pinch at home uh Grand Slam. Okay. That night before the game, he slept on a teammate's pullout sofa.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Because his family was in town. He gave them his place and he slept there. And I guess he's quite the comedy, uh comedian because uh he says to his buddy, he goes, Well, can I sleep in the bed with you and your girlfriend? And he's like, Nice try. But see, think about this. He slept on a polo coach the night before the biggest game in his life. Pinch hey, come on in. You know what you're supposed to do, and he fucking did it. Crazy, absolutely bananas. But you know what's even more crazy? One of the broadcasters called it ahead of the game. Way ahead of the game. Oh, dude. He said this guy's gonna say, listen, I'll tell you what's gonna rock the house. Excuse me, so-and-so, again, that guy. Uh, he goes, he's gonna come off the bench and he's gonna do something, and the place is gonna go bananas.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Oh, okay.

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Yeah, and buddy, you're a hero.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Media Whiplash After Game Two Loss

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Absolute hero. But yeah, so for me, people don't even know this. A lot real baseball players and fans would know. Don Mattingley is one of the coaches and has been on the Blue Jays for a few years. He's been in baseball for 40 years. He's coached the Yankees, he's played for the Yankees, he's played for other teams. That man was so emotional, finally, after all this time, right, that Blue Jays get to go to the World Series. And, you know, people are probably watching, going, Who's the who are those two old men hugging? Don Mattingley, and because I was like, Yeah, dad would really like to see that because I was a Yankees fan, you know. Yeah, but yeah, I was like, great on him, man. Because you know, you you play your whole life to get there.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

And it took him 40 years, not even as a player, but as a coach. So I hope he wins, man. Just for him, and of course, go Jays, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:45

Well, it's funny because like here we are talking about game one. We're doing the same thing you were talking about earlier, right? Like the sports channels weren't talking about it today because we lost last night.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Yeah, yeah. So that's the thing. I was game two. Saying to Mike, you know, we we go to bed at six right after supper. So we we we couldn't see the uh the game, you know. Okay, we watched part of it, right? But anyway, so I I get up and I figure, you know, you click on Sports Center, like I was saying, and I'm waiting 25 minutes in, there's nothing about the game. It's like, what's up? Then it goes on, it goes, uh Jay's lost 5-1, and now the Stamp Peters. I'm like, uh, what? The day before was 20 minutes of the heroics and look at the fans, and yeah, and now it's just like Canada. It's just like F you USA, you're getting no play whatsoever. I don't even know who scored the runs.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

Right? You know, all I know is one-one up until the whatever time we went to bed. I went I went to bed.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

I went to I called it a night after the fifth, and I think it was one-one still after the fifth.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

That's right, and you came to bed and I had to move over. I remember that. What? Was that you? Maybe not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so NBA. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Um, everybody likes a little gambling. Everybody likes a little gambling. Apparently, the people who like gambling the most are uh Chauncey Billups, uh uh Damon Jones, and of course our good friend Terry Roset. So uh uh. Um FBI is involved, Mike. That seems to be a small problem.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Very much that's not the first time the FBI's NBA players in gambling that uh, you know, there was that uh Jailblazers back in the 90s. Well, there was just recently there was um uh the kid that played for Toronto there, Michael Porter Jr.'s brother, he got invested. That's right. What was that one for again? Same thing, taking himself out of games to help people, you know, like yeah, yeah. And then um the oh god. Like the bigger Beasley from Detroit there. Thank you. Beasley from Detroit, the young player that hasn't signed yet, he's under he's under investigation right now as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Oh, he hasn't signed?

SPEAKER_02 5:44

No, because he's under investigation. Oh, that's right. Right. They're not gonna. So same with so something, I saw something. Um Sophie Cunningham plays for the Indiana Fevers, had posted something, so this is what I saw. She was saying. Well, she's like, Are you fucking kidding me, essentially? Because what's in there is that because of the with that, whatever the in the collective bargaining agreement or whatever, whenever a player is suspended, like pending investigation, whatever, they get paid. So Rosier. So Rosier is like slated to make like$29 million this year or something like that. So he's still getting his sales out, right? So that's why so good on you, Sophie, for calling it out.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

That's more than the whole WNBA makes. Yeah, yeah, that's brutal. Oh my god. She's like, are you fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Or I think she just said something like, can this be real? But essentially, yeah, are you fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Well, it's like when a police officer does something wrong, you get suspended with pay.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Suspended with pay.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

What? Okay. Anyway, yeah. So um here's here here's the big thing, though. We were talking about this off camera because we're trying to build one now. An X-ray table. Chauncey Billups had an X-ray table built so he could see through the cards and cheat. What we hear is it's for millions and millions of dollars they were you know gambling with over the over this period of time.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

Sorry, remember, all of this is allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Allegedly, of course, yeah. Yes. This is just what uh, you know, what we're hearing. Our ESPN sideline analysts have told us. Yeah. Also, mob ties.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Yes, I've heard that.

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Yeah, so that's a problem.

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Yeah.

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Right? You know. Well, so there's two different things, right? Yeah, so go. What do you know?

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Well, there's Chauncey Billups and stuff was running these illegal poker games.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Illegal poker games. And that's where the X-ray table was. I saw it with my own eyes.

SPEAKER_02 7:20

Yeah, and then the other one is like the the guys like you know, uh manipulating games so that you know betters can make their money.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Yeah, which is you're you're probably gonna be suspended forever. That's you're done, right? If they can prove that. You know, taking yourself out of a game when you're on a hot streak.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Well, I think well, faking injuries, like you know, faking injuries that come off the court so you don't get your over. Yeah, so you get take taking yourself out of the game so you don't yeah, exactly. Right. Barkley came out and said, I love gambling. I love gambling. He goes, You don't do that though. No, you don't bet on you're in the league, you don't bet on games, you don't manipulate games, you don't give insider information. I think Damon Jones, this of course, they can't wait to bring LeBron's name into it, but he was getting information about when he was playing, when he wasn't playing, da da da, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:05

So yeah, yeah. So anyway, but I mean, I don't know. I think almost most sports you can't bet, but here's the thing in UFC, I can bet on myself to win.

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Yeah.

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And guys do that. Okay. You know, why not? Right? But you certainly can't bet on yourself to lose. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

But I mean But but the thing, like you're making so much money. Why are you doing that?

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Like, what is the Oh, because it's the same reason Jordan would play a million dollars a hole in golf, right? It's just because he can and he's so competitive. Something has to get them to go.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

Again, that goes back to what you were just saying. You can bet on yourself to win. Yeah, you can bet on the hole. Jordan can bet on the hole, but he's with all intents of winning. Yes, he's not cheating, he's not like got x-ray tables, or he's not pulling himself out of games to manipulate games.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Oh, so yeah, okay. So here's what I want to know. Right. So, you know, I'm the coach, you're a player. Probably more reasonable, right? I'm the coach, you're the player. And, you know, if I'm in on it and you're having a hot game and I've been already told he can't score more than 20, yeah, and I go, Sop, Mikey. Yeah, what? Yeah, fuck, sit down. No, no, no, we're good.

X-Ray Poker Tables And Game Manipulation Risks

SPEAKER_02 9:13

But it's gonna, you know, exactly what that's gonna do. Those questionable things where the uh hundred percent. Where the uh the coach will pull somebody out and they'll say, Well, how come you didn't play so-and-so in the fourth quarter? It's like, oh, that's personal. It's like it never comes to light. Well, and they always tie it to, you know, there was some you know behind the scenes stuff, there was you know something detrimental to the team, whatever it is. But fuck, it's gonna make people start to question it, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:33

You know what came to me right away? It's when Phil Jackson took Oak Kobe when he had 80. I'm like, wait a minute. What? What? I don't know. Phil, Phil, call Mikey on the the red phone.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Remember, as much as we all love Jordan, uh, you know, there's always that conspiracy that floats around, which I don't believe. I don't believe it either. When he retired that it had to do with the gambling.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Gambling debts. Yeah, they said just go walk away for a little bit. Go play some baseball. Yeah, go disappear for a bit. Go play some baseball, be real good, and you know, you come back when we clear it up.

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Right.

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But again, I don't uh I don't uh I don't know what he was if he was betting like uh you know, like manipulating the game or anything like that. I think he was just gambling, right? Yeah. But they all do it, like that's what they say. Like, you know, they get on planes, they gamble. They you know they go to hotel rooms, they gamble. Like they gamble all the time. It's just this is different.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Yeah, it's different. It's different. But anyway, come on, guys. Yeah, come on, guys, get us in on the action, we're gonna keep doing it. I want to know. Yeah, right. What I want to know is how much money were they doing? Because, like you said, they don't need the money.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Well, that's just it. It's all for the well, you know, it's for that that for the adrenaline run.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Right, because you're what you're doing is it's illegal. That's why the you know, the uh Federal Basketball Investigation League came after you. Is that what FBI says?

SPEAKER_03 10:55

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Yeah, all right, yeah. So there it is. My new guy. Sorry, LeBron. You're not in the ground yet, but it's soon, son. I know you're a top 20 player, I get it. Wimby's my new guy.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

How is he? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah, we we gotta get him a sandwich or two. Yeah, yeah. Gotta get some carbs, right? You know, get him on the Shaq diet, whatever that was. Yeah, because Shaq put 100 pounds on. So uh, yeah, maybe some grits. That'll get him some. We need some carbs. We need grits and potatoes, and we need some heavy passes for that.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

That's like we talked about last week, last week, or whenever it was.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Put on 40 pounds, you can't even notice.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

He's he's phenomenal, but he's so healthy.

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He's so ridiculously good. Other players are just shaking their head, they don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

Did you see though the other game? The blocks uh is it two nights ago? Not the blocks, I know the other game that's yeah, they had nine blocks in the game against the Pelicans. But what I was talking about is uh Zion dunked on him twice.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Yeah, I saw that. And he smiled both times. Yeah, it's like that was awesome, Zion, just for the record. Yeah, I'm glad you're back too, bro. You're all leaned out, sort of. Stay away from the hamburgers, stay away from the hamburgers. We got skinny Luca, we got skinny as uh, but the thing is skinny Luca still can't play defense.

Wimby, Zion, And An Early-Season Scoring Surge

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Yeah, but he still dropped. I know. He is 40 something, whatever, 43 and 49 in his first.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Luca, Shay, Aaron Gordon, you know. Aaron Gordon, yeah. Everybody dropping 40 and 50. Why not?

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Oh, it's been quite the uh Yeah, there's no defense. Quite the Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

You know, the uh you're killing me, man.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

I was starting to like I was I I have to go back. I mean, I'm not a I uh I'm not a stats guy, so I can't tell you this. I'm sure. Hey, put it up here, uh uh IT guy.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Oh, yeah. Right here. Yeah, put it up. Put it up.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Want to see what how does it put this? How does this season compare to other seasons with these early scoring outputs? Like, I mean, we've seen so far every single game, every single night, there's been two or three 40 plus games. Do your best, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

You know, like we were talking about just like you know, this guy broke this record, this guy broke this record, it's always a record, but it's like everything's a record, but it's like they're they're finding the most obscure stats. They're the first Laker ever with, you know, you know, two 40-point games, but plus 10 rebounds and five assists. It's like okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Oh, there's worse than that.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Are these real, like, are these real records? Like that we get.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Yeah, Lucas the first Laker to sleep with three Lakers girls and score 40 and have a cheeseburger all in one go. Well, not wearing his underwear the correct way. That's right. First time. And then somebody else, Terry Rosier, me too.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

I had money on that.

SPEAKER_02 13:23

What did I see the night that they announced the gambling thing? Oh, it just blew up so quick, man. I wish I could remember that. Um, I think it was Aaron Gordon with the the number of threes on opening night or whatever, and the record that he beat was Terry Rosier's record. And as like, you know, Ernie Johnson was reading it out, he goes, You just can't make this stuff up.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Yeah, Ernie's so good. Ernie's so good. Yeah, you just can't make this stuff. What's the chance of that? Yeah, I think. You'll never hear about Terry Rozier at all. Not anymore.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

Gordon does something that night, and he breaks Terry Rozier's record.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Anyway, that's Aaron Gordon's crazy good, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

He had a so he is the highlight from last night. Jokic throws him the lob. 360 dunks. Oh man, what a dunk, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

But he can still dunk that.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

I still think he was robbed in the dunk competitions against Levine. Agreed. Yeah, and that's I Especially the second one, the one where he like was doing it.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

How does this man not have a dunk trophy yet? Are you kidding me? Yeah, that was in the game. Anyway, but here's my thing.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

Yeah, that was in weird.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Why was he able to do that? Because the two fucking defenders are stupid. Nobody talks to each other, both guarding the same guy, and then they looked at each other after he ran around me. He's just like, he was so open it was ridiculous. I could have threw that up and he would have got it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm like I thought you were gonna say you could have dunked, but no, no, come on, man. I'm gonna be off a trampoline. Yeah, yeah, and the back of a pickup truck. That's right. Yeah, but yeah, it was just like as soon as he went around that, he's probably like, what? Okay, like he's so open. He was waiting for, you know, I didn't even know what to do. He's like, nah, 360 it is.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Yes, I'm doing a 360.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

He makes it look so easy. It's yeah, it's stupid. Yeah, it was fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

But anyway, yeah, you're right. Like that first night he scored 50 points against the Warriors and still fucking they lost.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yeah, and still lost.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Yeah, because Curry went stupid again, like usual, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

He did. Yeah, he did. The Chucker. I'm gonna keep calling him a chucker because when you're so far out, it's not a shot anymore. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

We've talked about this before. The difference, the difference with Steph, there's like only a couple of them, like Steph, Dame, they can do it, they can hit them on a regular basis, too, not just like once in a while.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Pretty common, which is scary, really. Yeah, but uh, you know what what I was saying, uh, there's another record. Uh oh, it's an edge comb there for uh Philly. LeBron, you took a record from you. LeBron had 12 points in a quarter for his debut, and I guess this guy had 14.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Yeah, he had 30 that he had 30 some points. Yeah, killer game.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Like, and everybody's like, who's this guy?

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yeah, because I saw I saw something that they were talking about rookie debuts or whatever, and Cooper had uh you know an okay game to start, he had like 10 points or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

He's so good, but dude.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

He's gonna be good, man. Like, I know they like, of course, you know, he has what he has a 10-point game, everybody's like starts going at him right away. It's like his first game in the NBA. The next game he had like 17 and 10.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

But even if he averaged 10 the whole year, that's still pretty good. You know, if he's like 10, 6, and 2 or something, but yeah, I mean he's only like 18 years old. Well, that's that's my point. He's a high school kid. Yeah, I know. Playing in the NBA where no boys allowed. Yeah, he ain't no boy. His parents must be super proud, man. Oh, yeah, yeah. His guy's gonna be the face of the league. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_02 16:23

But yeah, they're so they were talking about him, they talked about Ace Bailey, they talked about all this stuff, but this this edgecomb came out and had a great you know opening night, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how he did the second night, but the first night he first night he had a really good game.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Well, like you said, the amount of records we're hearing, like it's just they but they some of them are just made up.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Well, that's what I was saying to you. Like, well, what are the records though?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Like, the most points on a snow day in March.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Yeah. So it's like, you know, most points in one one quarter by a rookie. Okay, that's fine. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Right by a rookie who's left-handed.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah, that's right. Exactly. That wears Jordan's. Like what what?

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Yeah, that's like this. So they're breaking it down so much. That has a blonde wife.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

You know, with the last name Edgecombe.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

There you go. Yeah. I know, right?

Steph’s Range, Celebrations, And The Chuck Rule

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Anyway, they uh now uh go ahead. No, no, I was just gonna say it's uh it's just it's just a way to get you to kind of click in and see what they're talking about, I guess, right? Bring you to their there's so many different uh like uh outlets now that you can go get your news from, so everybody's trying to get that catchy title to bring you in to watch their stuff.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Yeah, yeah, but you know what though, I think what it is is like you pick when you stay with it. Yeah, you know, you don't bounce around, you know what I mean? Like you don't really I'm sure the six people that watch our podcast are the same six people each week. Yeah, right? And they're just like, yeah, I just like what they have to say, and their information's usually pretty good. Like I said, if we we get it wrong, the tech guy fixes it.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Oh, the tech guy.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

So make sure you fix our shit, tech guy, because we stupid.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

That's right, tech guy.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Get it right, get it right. Checks in the mail. That's it. Can the post strike, we don't know when it's coming, man.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Yeah. So listen, you were talking to me about Timberland boots because you're wondering if I needed a pair. So, what do you know about Timberland boots in the NBA?

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Uh well, I I have to go look it up. Like I said, I saw something the other day where they were saying. Whoever got defensive player of the game or whatever. Like, I noticed a lot of these teams are doing this shit now.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

Defensive player they still have that, huh?

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Well, you know, like, yeah. Uh just no, it's just look, it's just like an internal thing that they're doing. Each team does. Like, you know, who's the, you know, who's the game?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Like the Blue Jays with the home run jackets.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Similar, yeah. Who's the player of the game? This is like who's the player of the game tonight? Who had the game? Who gets the game ball?

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Who gets the That's a normal thing in every sport who gets the game ball?

SPEAKER_02 18:31

I think Denver had one where they handed out a chain, like, you know what I mean? Whatever. They all they all they all start to do this shit. But anyway, I thought I saw something the other day, I wish I could remember who it was, um, where it looked like they were giving them a pair of Timberland boots.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

And so I thought, is this something like Seems racist? Is this something that everybody's gonna get a pair of Timberland boots each game, or is it like a pair of Timberland boots that are shared around? I don't know, right? Because like imagine, so you know, giving you a pair of Timberland boots for having a good game, like for doing your job that night.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Like, you know, Oh, I'm sorry. For doing my job, I get extra gifts.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Of boots that I can't hardly afford with my twenty million dollar contract.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

I think I was telling you, I was watching the thing with uh in my mansion at Steve Nash Dirk, Udannis Haslam, or whatever the the new Amazon Prime uh show, whatever it's called. Right, right. And they were talking to them about it, and and you know, Steve Kerr and Haslam and and and Dirk were all like, no, like in my day, we didn't we didn't get that kind of thing. We didn't need extras. Blake Griffin was on there and he goes, Am I the only one that's okay with participation awards?

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Yeah, shut up, Blake Griffin. Yeah, you're stupid. Yeah. Wait, is Blake Griffin the one that married the Kardashian?

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Is that another one?

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Uh somebody looks like Blake uh Blake Griffin?

SPEAKER_02 19:45

I can't remember. I think he was dating one of them. I don't know. Well, is he? Who hasn't? Oh man. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

You know, be careful. Don't get fat and white. You know what happens with Lamar Odom. Yeah, so that's why I was worried about Luca. So I kept telling you about Luca. Say Luca gets any fatter, Lamar Odom's gonna fuck him. Right? Fat white kid. Yeah, so anyway, so LeBron, participation trophies. Why are grown men that are getting paid a ridiculous salary to play a game? Twice a week, or maybe more than that, right? Three times a week. And now they want a pair of Timberland boots that are worth probably$400.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Well, that's that's my thing, is that I don't like I don't know. Again, I guess what I said. We'll have to get the tech guy to like put it up here, whether that's a if it's uh every game somebody's getting a new pair of Timberland boots, or if it's it's just uh same thing that they do with the chains and stuff like that, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Yeah, okay, maybe, but you know, I'm I'm I don't like the participation trophies because in the Olympics you get you know gold, silver, bronze, there's no like paper specifics.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

It's just I know it's just different, right? Like, you know, I think maybe a team team maybe always done this kind of thing, but it was never it was just behind closed doors for the team and that's it. I don't think they did.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

We would have heard about it. When I think it was, it's like every other one. It's like who gets the game ball? Yeah, well, exactly, right? Football, basketball, you know, and football good just a million balls, but you know.

Trash Talk, Refs, And Whining Culture

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Yeah, but who cares? Like, you need a game ball, like get a game ball when you, you know, like Aaron Gordon the other day. Oh, yeah, go, yeah, tell this story. Well, the game ball. He's like, No, we lost. So it's great that I would broke my, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Yeah, but he doesn't care. He if he scored five points and they won, he'd be happier.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

So because he's a real guy, right? But they offered him the game ball because it was, I think it was was it must have been his career high, maybe, or maybe the first time he scored that many in an opening night. I don't know, but I don't know, it was 50 years monster.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Good lord.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Imagine if you got a game ball, like you'd you'd have a trophy case, like he'd have a whole gymnasium.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Was he 20 for 50? Is he was the Allen Iverson numbers?

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Well, it's funny you say that the other night when Shea had his 55.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Yeah, how many 75 shots?

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Well, I saw he was he had like 30-some shots, but then he also had 20-some free throws, which imagine that's like another 12.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Yeah, Kevin Durant caused most of those, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

So that's almost 50 shots in the game. Insane. It's crazy, right? Insane.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

I watched part of that game. Once again, I went, Yeah, he's not doing too bad. And then I go 28. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Where did you get 28 from? You've been on the floor for 19 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Well, there was this there was something going around where it was like he was on the floor, and it looked like I don't know if he was complaining or not, but it looked like he was complaining. It's like, dude, you shot 29 free throws and you're complaining about not getting a company. He was complaining.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah. There were some complaints.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Listen, I love Shea. Good Canadian player. Oh, yeah. Good to supporter Canadian player. He's quite happy that he won last year, got the MVP, won the. But stop the whining. Yeah, don't start. You too. Stop the whining.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

So you two sooky babies.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

As much as I love LeBron. He's a whiner. He's he's one of the biggest whiners there is, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he's made it okay to spend your time arguing with the wet ref and whining to the ref instead of running back down and playing defense, right?

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Okay. I just went back 20 years in my head. All 20 years. I don't remember a coach ever, other than maybe Michael Jordan's, but you can back me up on this. I don't remember ever remember a coach ever coming out in the conference, you know, afterwards, the same, you know, after going, LeBron James is not getting any calls. How many coaches come out and say that about this? When when's the last time you heard it?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

I don't know. I'm sure it happened. We probably just never paid attention to it because it wasn't just it just sticks in my mind, though.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Like the coaches always around the playoffs is always when coaches will play that game, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Maybe when Shaq was playing for Orlando. Yeah. My boy's not getting any calls. He's seven foot eight, three thousand pounds. Man, those guys were hanging off of Shaq.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Hanging off of it. I think it's like oak tree. Same with same with LeBron. Like, how do you ref somebody that's that strong, right? It's stupid. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

It's stupid. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

But yeah, I mean, still at the same time. But yeah, stop the whining, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Well, that's the thing. Come on, Shay.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Kids are watching you.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

You got 29 feet. Even Ja Rule put his gun away while he was on the bench. Whatever you were whining about. If you were whining again. Tech guy, confirm if he was whining or not.

Touchdown Celebrations And Odd Sports Rules

SPEAKER_01 23:53

But uh tech guy's gonna hate you. You're asking a lot this day. Tech guy can go fuck himself. Sorry, tech guy. You know that thing in his pants, it's not his penis, right? That's a that's a gun. Oh shit. Yeah, just saying. Yeah. Yeah, he's uh works for the Mexican. Anyways, uh oh good. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah. No problem, Paquito.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

But yeah, anyway, I saw that the other day. I got a little bit annoyed by Shay. If if that if he wasn't, yeah, I didn't like that.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

I want to see whining. I don't like that. Luca too, shut up the two of you. You we should put them in Dana White's slap contest.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

There's you know, listen, I you know, you're gonna there's gonna be a couple of times. Time and place for whining. There's gonna be times where you're gonna get hammered and there's gonna be a no-call or whatever, but it's not every single time that you take a shot should you get a foul call, man. Like, especially when you're especially like you know, James Harden started this as well, right? With the hunting the foul. Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Like, yeah, jumping into you.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Anyway, I don't know. Again, it's you know, there's this is where these guys are smart because they actually they play within the rules, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:56

So until they have to change the rules because of it. That's right. Right? So speaking of that, this this chuck rule, what's it called, Mike? Where you can chuck it from half or whatever the hell you want to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

They don't count the percent, it to count it towards your percentage within a certain whatever the last like couple seconds of a then it shouldn't count towards your points.

unknown 25:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Right? What do you mean? Now we're giving now we're giving uh uh participation. Yeah, now we're giving you a free chuck.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Yeah, because you don't talked about that before. It's because they don't want to mess up their shooting perspective.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Okay, so what if I foul you? Because it doesn't count, so the foul shouldn't count either.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

That's right.

unknown 25:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

What the fuck is wrong with you? We can chuck it, but we're not either. Stephen A. Smith, we're ahead of you on how brains work for this shit. You haven't even talked about this. This is me and Mikey D already bringing it up. Fuck you, Stephen A. You piece of human garbage. Stephen A. Yeah, Stephen A. Stands for asshole, as we know.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Right?

Predator Hype, Nostalgia, And Carl Weathers

SPEAKER_01 25:44

But yeah, okay. So here's here's my thing, though. We were talking about curry. I don't mind you doing your little shoulder shimmy, you green-eyed freak. But don't do it when it's like, you know, second quarter and you're 28, 19, and you hit a three and nobody was in your face. Don't do that, because that's why kids do that. If that was a win and shot, cool. If it was right at the end of the half, cool. It was in Wimby's face, cool. It was for nothing, no reason. It's for no reason. You're a 38-year-old. How old is he?

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Oh, it was mid-30s.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Come on, man. Like you're supposed, you know, you already ruined the game with your threes. So stop screwing it up for the young kids. Because now they're gonna chuck it and oh they score when they're gonna shimmy when it's it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

We've talked about this before. He's insane with what he can do, but you're right. You know, uh go back and look early on. Don't try to be uh Steph Curry kids. You can see Steve Kerr just like hands in hand, hands or head in hands almost going like, what is he doing? And then but then he's just kept making them is the problem with Curry.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Well, and then I also heard Steve Kerr say, you know, I I've never seen Steph take a bad shot.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Shut up, Steve. Taking all kinds of bad shots. Yeah, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 26:53

They just he's you know he can just make a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Yeah, and that's the thing. Yeah, you know, I I don't even know anymore at this point, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Well, that's it, right? Like, I mean, that is the thing, is it? Is it still a bad shot? Yes, it's still a bad shot. You can make a bad shot. Oh, it's still a bad shot, right? Yeah, yeah. But it's amazing, like how often.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yeah, what he can do, right? But you know I agree with you.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

You don't need to, you don't need to dance after everyone.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

No, you don't. I mean, you know, every now and then, like, Jordan didn't do that shit.

unknown 27:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

LeBron didn't really do that. Yeah, well, that's fine though. Well, which actually, that's why they had the you know, have them have that talk because they that's when they started putting the microphones on the side of the court. You were hearing a lot of words you're not supposed to hear, children. Oh, yeah. And they're like, you need guys, what? Oh my god, imagine you guys need to stop using that word. They could never put those things out. Come on.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

When Kevin Garnett was playing, they couldn't put those things out.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Oh, Lord Almighty. I heard more than one. I'm like, whoa, what the hell? Yeah, and then I'm every once in a while you hear the announcement, sorry, kids, it is a family show, but every once in a while, you know, man or be men.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Yeah, they're trying to improve the sound, they're trying to do all these different things. You could hear the f-bumps and the oh the words just like it's kind of funny though, because we talked about this. I have I have no problem with the trash talking. The show boating's a different story, I guess, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I just saw that uh a dude scored a touchdown in the NFL and or CFL with either one, but I don't care. And he dunked like on the goalpost and foul. It's a flag, yeah. So it's an unsportsman like. Oh, yeah, okay, right. Yeah. Just like, what?

unknown 28:27

Yeah.

CDs, Phones, And Jetsons Rumors

SPEAKER_01 28:28

You can do all those stupid iggy shuffle bullshit dances and spin the thing and shoot your guys, but you can't dunk it over the that's weird. Yeah, that's a stupid rule.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

That is a rule.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Because that's really hard to do.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Yeah, yeah. Right? You have to have a vertical, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

So what are you doing? Let the boys jump, man. Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't get it, but okay. So uh I saw the uh the trailer for uh Predator, a new Predator movie. Now I'm not gonna give it away to anybody, but man, it looks looks hot. Looks coming out um November 4th or 5th or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Oh, okay. It's coming out soon, yeah. I like the Predator movies. I've always liked it.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Oh, never seen a bad one. Never seen a bad one.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

There's some there's some ones that it's you know, you watch it and you go, this is exactly what you expect.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Well, that's what I mean. I don't go in and go, well, maybe this is gonna be cinematographer magic. Yeah, yeah. Uh what's happening? Yeah, it's a giant monster and people trying to kill it.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Favorite one is still the Arnold one, though. Very good original, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Yeah, so good. Because that was everybody was in that. That's why. Jesse the Body, Jesse the Body Venture. He was a monster, bro. Carl Weathers. Rest in peace. Yeah, good old Carl Weathers. He's been in all kinds of crazy shit, too. Yeah, right. He was in Happy Gilmore.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

He was in Happy Gilmore, yeah. The broken hand. That's a broken hand.

Voice Actors, Cartoons, And Game Likenesses

Jay And Silent Bob, Clerks, And ’90s Throwbacks

Listeners, Platforms, And Posting Schedule

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah. Oh, you know what else he was in? The wood hand, yeah. Arrested Development. He was the acting coach in Arrested Development, and uh one of the white dudes was like in love with him. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, like he was Carl Weathers actor. I gotta give him some money. Yeah, it was weird. That's fine. Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty good show then. Yeah, yeah. That predator looks it's gonna go in the theaters, it's not like straight to DVD or oh yeah or to uh Netflix I mean DVD I said DVD DVD did say DVD say it to streaming yeah uh strigan streaming man streaming huh I found all my CDs I know I forgot if I told you oh you didn't tell me no yeah because my 2025 cars CD plate I did not put in but yeah so I found all my CDs I got like all my hip and I got it like oh yeah my Pearl Jam. Good yeah I got it all so yeah so now I have options oh that's good yeah I got all kinds of options now I got the FM AM AM AM still working and it's still there I don't got like trucker trucker one nine yeah sure CP or whatever news radio probably yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so now I can do all kinds of shit did I tell you why my phone doesn't hook up to my car no because it was bought in Asia no because I purchased that phone in Asia yeah because in Asia like quarter of the price right right so I bought it be smart up get the brand new Samsung before I come home they get home like okay I can't put my banking information on yeah yeah I can't get that can't do like okay and I'm like I really don't want to spend another two grand on a phone use it enough for that you know so I'm like yeah I'll suffer and see what happens until the till you need till you eventually really need yeah until something goes sideways right right so uh I don't did you ever watch the Jetsons when you were young like that show yeah George Jetson his boy same time as the Flintstones were on yeah yeah the good old Flintstones but the Flintstones were a lie that we know remember can't have Christmas Jesus wasn't born before caveman what's wrong with you people Hanna Barbera nice try and I think we talked about that but we did talk about it somehow yeah uh what was I saying oh Jim uh Jim Carrey is going to be in the uh new version of the Jetsons to a voice and a character or a live action assuming it's a voice not a live action I mean Jim Carrey's you know a thousand years old now and he goes away from Hollywood for a while he keeps saying he's never going back and then he always does well I think they pay these voice characters quite a bit of money you can make a lot of money doing that I just found out recently that uh Kelly Quick the the one off of Gangbang Big Bang Big Bang Theory Huh that's interesting that is interesting don't look at my search history that's right Kelly Kucko but yeah how do you say her name you know who I mean right off the Big Bang C U C Yeah cook you are it's the noise your roosters make sure yeah anyway turns out she there's this uh uh it's not anime it's like whatever just a cartoon cartoon but she's the voice of uh Harley Quinn in the I I'm pretty sure it's Harley Quinn um right here if we're incorrect our our guy will take care of there's there's tons of but she's been doing it for a while yeah there's tons of shows that people and they're they're not just shows there like there's a lot of actors now that do the voices for in a lot of these games now because these games are crazy now too right oh yeah like the the big time games yeah yeah like the like like you know PlayStations or whatever yeah yeah whatever games like there's all kinds of there's all kinds of different games now like that they uh they'll lend their voices to and and then then the likeness of that of them is actually in the the the game now so I wonder I wonder if uh Kelly Kuko looks like the character that she's doing I don't think so because it's like supposed to be the you know whatever she'd be Harla Quinn so I would say yeah yeah anyway yeah yeah anyway uh I mean I like that I wonder who else is doing that because what's his name the fellow does Simpsons Hank Azaria he must do a lot of shit because he can do like 12 different voices uh Seth uh Myers no no the Rogan no no the guy that does uh oh my god why can't I get it how many Seth do I know there's a family guy oh right uh Seth McFarlane McFarlane yeah yeah he voices about five different right fuck you yeah yeah yeah yeah his yeah you know the funniest thing I've ever heard said about him uh Patrice O'Neill remember Patrice O'Neill big black dude had diabetes and didn't care like he's like don't care I'm not gonna change and he died early because of it sure no don't remember him but anyway yeah he was on a roast oh okay and uh Seth McFrom was on the roast and he sat there and he goes for a man that writes that many show tunes for a uh a comedy theater there's no way you're straight yeah yeah just say you're gay man just say it it's okay we're all friends just say you're gay it's just like and I was like there is a lot of show tunes Stewie's always singing in that show always singing in that show but yeah so anyway so um remember the boy pirates pirates pirates of the Caribbean yeah Johnny Depp Johnny yeah yeah yeah so I just uh I just saw that Johnny Depp is uh making a big comeback in the movie theater oh okay because I guess he needs some money how's that even possible he doesn't need money I didn't read that but he's come back he's gonna be Ebon Ebers Ebon Ebony Ebon Ebini it is what it is Ebenezer Scrooge in uh Christmas Carol sure yeah but it's not coming out till next year which is okay but okay so he's gonna be fully you know just like in um yeah in the in the the pirates movies he'll be full of full character mode or whatever always gonna be character mode for sure right but uh I mean the the last one that I saw that was a Christmas carol this was ages ago was with Bill Murray. Yeah yeah Bill Murray was the guy in that one do you remember that one? Yeah scrooged yeah fantastic I still watch it at Christmas time well they keep they cut out my my the the funniest part the the part where he said the girls need to pull their top tents more and he goes I want it so you can almost see the nipples you can almost see the nipples sir and he goes that's where we need it yeah right I was like what's going on in this is not for children is not for children big boob and gag girls are just wearing tiny little outfits and he kept going smaller or whatever because remember he was such an ass. That was a great man when did that come out holy smokes oh that would have been nineties right early 90s maybe I still trying to remember who was when we were when I was still in high school or not anyway speaking of 90s uh I just saw something our favorite dude from Mall Rats uh Jason Lee oh yeah I just saw something about him I can't remember what it was though it just all of a sudden came out of nowhere I'm like oh where's this guy been you know anything about him no no he just kind of he was in a couple of those movies but I don't think he went behind the camera maybe one of those guys yeah don't know anyway no don't know he was never yeah anyway he was good I like Jason Lee but yeah yeah who was silent bob what's his real name uh Jay and Silent Bob yeah uh the director there Kevin um Kevin Smith Kevin Smith yeah also a great dude yeah great dude those were malrats what was the other one uh what did he direct no no no they were in both of these oh well they were in clerks and Maul Rats the one clerks clerks a great movie I think you know what there was they but they did there was like Jay and Silent Bob um oh god the Jay and Silent Bob movie but there was a Star Wars one they did I guess yeah there was uh yeah there was a bunch but you know I'm just thinking you know what this is this is this really happened it was you Sean Steve and me and we went up to the record store because Steve wanted to buy a Pearl Jam album and we went in and I bought the old bootleg takes yeah I went in and I bought clerks and mall rats on uh BHS okay yeah yeah that was a long time ago ladies and gentlemen I just watched clerks I remember that just a few months ago now on one of those on whatever streaming servers must have been prime yeah we'll see what that's like but yeah it's still yeah it's it's still it's clerks it's still funny it's still what it is right still what it is Randall's the guy that works in the the convenience store next door comes over and hangs out with was it Dante Dante and Randall and then Jay and Silent Bob anyway great movies noochies crazy anyway um we're gonna find out not through this donkey because he can't do it because it's an issue that we had with somebody else we're gonna be able to find out how many um looks or views whatever they call it on uh Spotify oh okay yeah we're gonna figure that out so okay cool right now we we feel it's seven six or seven people so we'll see and maybe we'll get up to eight you never know maybe so way to go Middle Sackville and Dartmouth again and Indonesia yeah crazy Indonesia yeah of all places well I'm assuming it has something to do with you started your other time uh yeah I'm thinking so because you know I I taught a few Indonesian kids but not as many as I did from others places you know maybe they told somebody told somebody told somebody he was in prison yeah yeah one of those deals sure yeah anyway so it's uh Bobby D and Mikey D for you would think and uh you can catch us on Buzz Sprout and uh anywhere Apple has their podcast what was that first one again Buzz Sprout Buzz Sprout I hate saying that word when it comes in I always want to say buzz feed yeah yeah right no no no but management says I know management says buzz sprout yeah right and uh Apple Spotify and uh that's it so go Jays and we'll see what happens later on Wednesday game tomorrow I guess yeah they'll be shifting to LA now so yeah go Jays so and all of our episodes are up at uh Wednesday at 11 a.m so there you go everybody there you go all right peace have a good one and thumbs up