YOU WOOD THINK?

From Olympic Dreams To Mexican Cartels and Everything in Between!!

Bobby and Mikey D

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What do you call it when an Olympic path swerves into cartel power and vanishes into the open air? We follow the startling arc of a Canadian snowboarder allegedly ascending to cocaine kingpin status in Mexico, where visibility doesn’t equal vulnerability. The story peels back how extradition works, why local authorities hold the real keys, and how public sightings can taunt international agencies when influence outruns enforcement.

From there, we confront a devastating high-rise fire where a flicked cigarette met flammable design. The details sting—bamboo scaffolding, styrofoam panels, years of ignored warnings. We talk building codes, accountability, and the way lived experience of fire changes the way you read a headline. Then the mood twists into consumer psychology as Black Friday posts jaw-dropping numbers. Are we saving money or spending habit? Door crashers, scarcity theater, and the weird magnetism of a deal all get their time under the light.

Policy and place collide next. The UK’s upcoming pre-travel permission for Canadians feels like a small bureaucratic tweak with outsized ripple effects for business trips and last-minute plans. Meanwhile in Detroit, a water-main break freezes a street into a glacier just as the city’s comeback takes root—a perfect metaphor for how fragile progress can be. And as winter rolls in, we trade notes on salt, rust, and the hush of a first snowfall that makes even a messy street look new.

We close strong on the NBA. OKC’s machine keeps humming, Shai’s shotmaking films like slow motion logic, and the Lakers’ identity looks sharper with LeBron embracing a true off-ball third option. We get into officiating trends, playoff physicality, and why scheme discipline matters when the whistle changes. Then we let the legends speak: Jordan’s ten scoring titles in fifteen seasons, defensive honors, and that singular control of a game; Bird’s angles and audacity that still surprise first-time viewers. It’s modern pace plus old-school awe, all in one seat.

Tap play for crime, policy, fire safety, ice, and basketball without fluff. If you’re into sharp stories, smart hoops, and a little winter grit, you’ll feel right at home. If this resonated, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a quick rating—what topic hit you hardest?

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  You Wood Think? Bobby and Mikey D

Welcome And Cold Open Chaos

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Canada, we have this uh snowboarder. So here we go. So we go from Olympic level snowboarder to biggest drug kingpin in the history of Canada for cocaine. Motherfucker doesn't know who he is, where he is, or what's happening right now. He's so drugged up on heroin. It depends on hey everybody, welcome back to You Would Think with Bobby D and Uncle Frank. Uncle Frank. This motherfucker doesn't know who he is, where he is, or what's happening right now. He's so drugged up on heroin.

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It depends on the day that what personality comes out, I guess.

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That's right.

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Yep.

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Okay, no knife. Good. No, we're good. All right. So our good friend that's in Mexico.

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Our good friend.

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Can't Canada, we have this uh snowboarder. So here we go. So we go from Olympic level snowboarder to biggest drug kingpin in the history of Canada for cocaine.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So this guy, uh, you know, they they they can't find him, they don't know where he is. And then FBI goes, yeah, here he is, he's in Mexico.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah. So either you can find him or you can't. So the whole thing is that Mexico has to arrest him, and he works for the Mestic uh one of the Mexican cartels. So they're not going to arrest him because those cartels probably have the po in their pocket. Yeah, so he's just living a good life down there. What's his name? Wedding. Uh Ryan Wedding or something like that. Yeah. So you know he was a snowboarder. Now he's probably in his 40s, but he's from Running. He's on the FBI's won't want his list.

SPEAKER_01

That's that's what I cite.

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So, Mike, if you want to make some money, we can go bounty hunting.

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Yeah, yeah, right.

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15 million. Yeah. Yeah. All we gotta go do is go down there and hang out for a little bit. Ponytail. I'll take my friend Cheech.

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Yeah.

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He can help us translate.

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You're gonna have a hard time with a ponytail, so would I?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah.

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We just buy one of those, but yeah. So yeah, so the the FBI knows where he is, but there's nothing they can do. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure he knows that because, like I said, this picture is just him walking just down the street.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, good on you, FBI. So the Mexican so the Mexican authorities need to actually apprehend him as I think.

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And they won't.

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How it was written in the news is like the Mexican thorough days uh are usually slow to react to some of these things. They're not slow, they're not doing it at all because they're paid off. Right. Right? Like, yeah, so the white boy's doing all right. Good for you, white boy. But really, though, yeah, king pen? Holy smokes, this guy. Yeah, like oof. And the best part is the time they went to go catch him, he wasn't there. Like they got us all everything.

Mexico, Cartels, And Extradition Stalemates

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Except for the first time it wasn't oh no, you the first time they didn't catch him, but uh how they tied him to the drugs.

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This is alleged, by the way. They haven't really charged him yet.

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So yeah, no, the first time they caught him for the the marijuana.

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Oh, yeah, but the other times when they were following him around, he was just they kept saying, He's just gone before we got these like the like the Snuffalopagus of uh Sesame Street. That's right. Right? He was here, I swear.

SPEAKER_01

Right? Oh, yeah, I can't remember. We were talking about Snuffalopagus, and I had said something about Big Bird's imaginary friend, and somebody's like, he's not imaginary. I was like, Yes, he is. Somewhere along the way, he wasn't imagined, they made him non-imaginary anymore. Like he's actually real now. Yeah, yeah. It was always imaginary when I was a kid. It was Big Bird's imaginary friend. You don't remember that?

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I don't think he was imaginary. I don't remember them being imaginary.

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He was imagining he was his imaginary friend. Nobody else could ever see snuffle up against except Big Bird.

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I just thought. Okay. Everybody thinks drugs. What?

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Hang on. How did we get on Big Bird?

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Sober. But yeah, how do we get on Big Bird? That's another story. That's a furry thing. There's a convention for that, Mike in Vegas. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a zipper in the back. Um the shit would be anyway. No, I just thought like Snaphalopagus. Well, I'm just thinking back when I was whatever age I was, you know, 28 when I was watching Sesame Street in grade six. Yeah, yeah. Uh no, I I always thought like he was real, but he always left before anybody else came. Like, oh, you just missed him. I didn't realize he was just in his dog.

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Well, maybe I'm wrong. I always thought he was imaginable. We'll have to tech guy figure it out for us.

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Yeah, tech guy, put that up. You're gonna be busy.

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I I have a friend, I in my head he was always an imaginary friend that nobody else could see except Big Bird. But then somewhere along the way, I think, you know, didn't want somebody having an imaginary friend or girlfriend.

Snuffleupagus: Memory, Media, And Myths

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You could be right too, I guess. I don't know. I mean, was he a woolly man? I thought I think that's what he was. Is that what he was? Yeah, maybe they're still alive.

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I don't know. Okay, yeah. So anyway, wow. Yes. All right, so back on to the stories here.

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This is where you put the where where it cuts and you hear the bong noise. Woo, woo, woo, boo. That's right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Yeah. A long time since there's been a bong used in this place. I know, man. Hong Kong, man. I saw this thing like fires bad. They're burning down all these complexes. It turns out it was a worker who was working on it, took a cigarette, just flicked it at some shit, and the whole thing went up. Yeah, I was reading about it.

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It's kind of quite sad. Yeah, man.

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It's horrible. Um, horrible.

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What did they say? I think they're I think like a bunch of people have been arrested uh for negligence and whatever. Oh well, and over a hundred people died so far. Over a hundred people died over like a hundred or something missing or whatever, like it's or unaccounted for, I should say.

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Unbelievable, man.

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Anyway, it's uh yeah, they had bamboo scaffolding, flammable styrofoam panels. Like, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, the thing just went up like quick.

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Oh, it's horrible. Right.

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And what's the sad part was is I read this uh there was a Canadian. Uh well, he must be Chinese Canadian or whatever he is, but he lived in that complex for most of his life. Right. And then he moved back over. And when he was here, he was watching on TV. He's like, Oh my god, my aunt run, but they were all out, luckily. Okay, yeah, yeah. None of his family got killed, but he was like, he was distracted. He's like, I grew up there for 26 years before I moved.

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I think if you go, if you go look it, you'll see that the the I think the residents have been complaining for a long time about the safety of the materials and stuff like that. Interesting, yeah.

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Well, we're gonna see a lawsuit, maybe. Well, anyway, hang on though, it's China. They just go missing. Yeah, that's right. Right? Jack Maha. Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's horrible, right? Horrible.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you ever did I did I talk about being stuck in a burning building before? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, it's been on here. You talked about it. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, no, we you talked about it when it happened. You told me the whole the stories. Yeah, yeah. Somebody lit it up. You were a firefighter for a while. Yeah, that's it.

Tragic High-Rise Fire And Safety Failures

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Yeah, craziness. Crazy, man. Yeah, whenever I see shit like that, it always just freaks me out, man. That's you know, that was the one thing about living in apartment buildings that always scared me, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't it after 9-11 that you know, because nobody could get out the out of the floors or whatever, right? Like that they they started having like for safety measures, like ways to get out of the windows and stuff like that.

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Oh, they should for sure, but who knows? Yeah, I think technically buildings don't come down even if airplanes hit them.

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That's right.

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So we don't know what happened. Right? Yeah, anyway, we'll never know. But yeah, yeah. Read your conspiracy theory books. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so yeah, terrible, terrible. Yeah, so we we were talking about Black Friday because I'm I'm looking for some furniture, trying to fill a new home, right? Or a trailer or a tent or whatever. Yeah, right. But yeah, so we're looking saying, what's better deals, Black Friday or Boxing Day? Black Friday outruns the deals for sure, it says for that. And uh, you said there was a record set this year.

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Yeah, I saw it. It said something like they made almost 12 billion dollars in Black Friday sales. Now, again, like we talked about last week. So just from Elon shopping. Well, like we talked about last week, Black Friday is not just the Friday. No, it's every day. Yeah, but still, like almost 12 billion dollars in sales this this year for that.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy, man. Like I said, that's just the amount of money that Elon spent on his kids or his gaggle of kids with however many he has. But yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot of money, isn't it?

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That's a ton of money, man.

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But I I imagine, like, wasn't it the whole thing was like I remember everybody would buy electronics on that day.

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Yeah.

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Wasn't it? Yeah, is that okay?

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You'd see the people all lined up waiting for the biggest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think like on the day they also have like door, whatever the door buster projects door crashers. Door crashers, yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Something like that. So people are there, they want to be the first one in to grab those things that are right there. So, like a fucking you know, 60-inch screen TV for a hundred bucks or something like that, right? Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Yeah, yeah, that's right. But yeah, but remember there used to be fights during Christmas, like for cabbage patch kids and tickle me elmo, yeah, yeah, and uh God knows who else.

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When those you know, those toys would sell out right away, and everybody needed to have it for their for their Christmas, I guess, right?

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Oh yeah, fist fights, ladies at Walmart just giving them right, right? Good times, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Black Friday. So pretty crazy. So I'm gonna take it. I mean, I went on and looked just to see, but I didn't, yeah.

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You fall into it, you go on and you look to see what's the what is for sale, and you kind of get there and you go, I don't need any of this stuff. Right, yeah, right.

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You got it all ready, yeah, basically, right? But you I don't. Yeah, right. So that's the thing. I've whatever I can look at. Hey, I need that. Yeah, well, I need that. I need that too, yeah. Right, yeah.

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Well, anyway, yeah, money, I need that.

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Yeah, yeah. I need one of those catalogs of House of Wives. Yeah, that's right. One of those, one of them. Russian order. Uh, yeah, yeah. So wow, Black Friday, crazy, crazy now, absolutely crazy. So uh now, if you want to go away for Christmas next year, if you fly to the UK, this is pretty sad as far as I'm concerned. The UK has now said that Canada or Canadians need advanced permission to enter their country on the six-month visa.

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Okay.

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And it says it's gonna come into uh law February 2026, and it says they can turn you away if they want. There's stipulations attached to it. Yes, and you're gonna have to have something digital to prove what you are and whatever you want. Yeah, so I was. And by the way, everybody, don't panic. It's right here. I got it already ready set up to go. We'll give it to the guy and he'll put it out.

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It must be for like intended length of stay or whatever it is, right? Like it's yeah, but it looks like business people won't know six months in advance, advance if they have to do that.

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See, this is what I'm thinking, but that's why it probably says there's yeah, yeah, stipulate or not, whatever, right?

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But even like even for you know, even if you're planning a trip, you necessarily you know, you might say, Oh, in a couple months I'd like to go to the UK.

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Well, that's not even the thing. The thing for me is why why why is it only certain countries? I mean, it's not just Canada, by the way, it's a lot of countries. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of countries. Can you want like, wait a minute, we're in the G20, bro. Like we're not, you know, it's not whatever, but yes. Yeah. Well, once again, though, the UK is crazy. Yeah, like I said, you can't say anything they don't like, you can get arrested for that.

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Yeah.

Black Friday Records And Buying Psychology

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So if you kill somebody, it's fine, you're out. But you know, you say that the country's bad and you money, you go to jail for that. So what's going on in the UK? UK's over, it's over. It's over. I'm I'm watching different things, and everybody's saying the same thing. Said the UK, don't go. We're all leaving. This is ridiculous. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, Ellen can stay. It's fine. No, right. Ellen. And dude, in Detroit, here's the sad part. Detroit's coming back, right? Right. You know, the neighborhoods are coming back. There's actually a show on TV. These two dudes are like buying houses and building them up and selling them at a good price for the neighborhoods. Then it was a water main break, and then it got below zero and it froze. Right. Ladies and gentlemen, tech guy, look at these two pictures right here. This is crazy. The water, as you can see, is up to the windows, and then it's frozen on top like a skating rink. Yeah, it's bananas. Look for yourself.

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Yeah. So I've I've seen, I've told you, I've seen the pictures before of uh when a water when a water main breaks in a uh underground parking garage and that happens too, right? Your cars are and you see the water like where coming out of the pipe just frozen frozen.

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Frozen solid. Yeah, crazy. Reminds me when I saw that picture the first time, Niagara Falls frozen. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was like 1908 or something. Yeah, I don't know when it was. Frozen solid. It's crazy. Black and white picture. Yeah, right. Yep. So whatever. But poor Detroit, because Detroit was just coming back. You know, back in the day it was the motor city.

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Can't come into work today.

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My car is yeah, frozen up to the window windshields. Yeah. Can you scrape it? Sure, buddy. Yeah, you can't scrape it, right? You'd have to tell cube magic. Yeah, the thing is it's like an ice cube truck. I know, right? Right? It's bananas. Can you scrape it? Yeah, if I had a one of those uh front end loaders, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, yeah. No, but uh when I the show almost talking about these two dudes, like they're really good at what they do. And these these houses aren't like expensive, like selling for 100 grand, 120 grand. Like, you know, they buy it for next to nothing because it's in a neighborhood and they they built they're building the whole neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, okay. You know, then they open the house and the whole neighborhood comes over. We're wrong what you guys were doing. Sure, right? You know what I mean? Oh, it's beautiful, yeah. And they sell it every time. Okay. Well, on the show they sell it. Of course, yeah. Just like our uh our favorite container show where, you know, hey, there's nothing in this one again. Yeah. 12 weeks in a row.

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This this show sucks. Yeah. New Zealand, when we lived over there, they used to do this uh and they but they might still do it. It was like a one of those uh can uh shows where there's four families or whatever, or four couples that they all build their own homes. Like they all design their own. I thought this was going somewhere else. They have their no no, they have their swinging party. No, no, they have their uh you know, they have their contractors and all this kind of stuff. So they build each other's home? No, they build their own, like they design like how their home is gonna look essentially, right? And then I think then at the end they get judged and whoever wins like gets the house or whatever. And then I think the other ones all go. Or no, they're all maybe it's all they all sell them and they all go up on auction, and so then like whoever sells their house for the most amount of money wins the show or whatever.

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Well, that's another thing here in January there's gonna be some people that are gonna lose their homes because the mortgages are gonna change. Yeah, right.

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So I can't remember how many how many mortgages they said were for renewal in 2025, but it was a lot. It was a lot, man. We're we're up next year. 2026, we have to renew ours next year. Should be alright next year. Well, we'll see. Yeah, well. We'll see. Yeah, when it comes around.

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What's today? Sunday. Yep. Yesterday when I went to the gym, I'm driving down uh Sackville Drive, and this this uh uh Volkswagen Passat pulls up beside me, and I look over and I'm like, Where'd all that snow come from? Like the car had like that much snow on the roof, and like they looked barely scraped enough to, you know. I'm like, where were you? Because I just came from an area there's no snow.

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I think uh was it just a couple of days ago that uh I saw the pictures in Kentville. There was snow on the ground there.

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Okay, because like you know, there was there was a substantial, and I was like, that's I think Western.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, got got some snow the other day.

UK Travel Rules For Canadians

SPEAKER_02

Well, I've seen some flurries, you know. I've been driving.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we've been we've had this we're scraping the car now in the mornings, but I've I've scraped a little bit.

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I've scraped a little bit, I wasn't happy about it. Yeah, right? Like oh well, here's the thing. My car is now winter. It's now winterized. I put I put the winter mats in.

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Okay.

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I forgot I actually had them. Okay. I put them in. They're nice, they're cool, they lock in, they got these little clips and stuff in my hands.

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You'll you'll start to see that now. You're gonna start going through your windshield wiper fluid a lot faster.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. The moment it snows and melts, and it's just like gonna be your car's gonna be filthy all the time. It already is covered in salt once they start salting the roads. Yeah, here we come.

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Yeah, I know, right? Here we come. Rust that succorator.

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So you but one thing you will see though, the first snowfall, I love it. Shit show, right? Oh no, it's just beautiful. Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna talk about the driving. Oh no, oh, the driving. Well driving.

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Yeah, driving. Even if it rains.

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You know, you know when the driver's driver's done I can't wait to see it sort of. You know the day that's the worst for drivers? The one that ends in Y. Yeah. That's every day. Yeah, we could that's what I mean. We can talk about driving every day, right? But no, like the first snowfall when everything's covered in white. Like, I I love it. You'll see you will too. You it's probably been a while since you've really saw you know like the first snowfall. So our first year home when we had that first snowfall, I remember just going out for a walk and it just loving it, man.

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Yeah, I might do that. I might do that. I got boots. Yeah, I got all the gear. I'm good to go.

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Were you here when white wand hit?

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No.

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No, you were here when regular wand hit.

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Yeah, it was we were in uni, weren't we?

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Uh no, I was out west because I remember you calling me. Well, I've been in the uni forever, so yeah, yeah. But I remember you calling me and telling me you got up real early in the morning and went for a drive and trees everywhere. Oh, yeah, trees everywhere. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, I was just I was just I just wasn't sure if you were here for the one. Yeah, I was gonna say.

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No, I was out, I was gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was crazy. Yep. That's when uh St. Mary's football players went around and helped everybody pick logs up and stuff. I got I got the book.

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Oh, do you? Yeah, I brought the book.

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Yeah, it's somewhere buried in one of my totes at one of my places where I store things.

Detroit Flood Freeze And Urban Recovery

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I just remember, wasn't it? There was like a beetle infestation down in Point Classic. Yeah, that crazy uh longhorn beetle or whatever. Whatever it was. It just destroyed the when came through. It wasn't even from here, that stupid beetle. It came over somewhere. Which one was it that hit here? Like you were just a few years back. Might not have been the Longhorn Beetle, by the way. I think Fiona, if you went down past Churro up towards Anaganish up that way, like between maybe between I can't remember if it was between Glasgow and Anaganish Fiona? Yeah, yeah. It like trees down everywhere, man. It was crazy. Yeah. That was another big one that hit too. So that was the one I think we lost power once for like four or five days, and then the other one, I can't remember what the other one was. Uh we only lost it for one, so one of them was like really, really bad. We got hammered ho really, really bad. We had shitloads of trees down in our yard.

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Well, I was just thinking they they name all the hurricanes after women. Is that because you know they're kind of like they come in and take everything? I don't think they name them all after women. That seems rude. That's very mean about the ladies. Yeah, guys can take stuff too. Yeah, sure they can, yeah. Yeah, because you know, in the divorce they get the house, the car, the same as a hurricane, they take the house, the car. For sure. They come in wet, everything's good. What? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, that was a bad one. Anyway, that was a bad one. But still, anyway, I don't know how we got way off topic.

SPEAKER_02

I I knew a girl named Fiona in Kuwait, and they would put tampons full of vodka in themselves because they were drunks. What? And apparently, yeah, you could you could absorb it through that. That's pretty heavy duty, Mike. That's real, that happened. All right, that happened. I didn't see that, but that was we were had conversations. Never heard that before. I'm like, well, crazy. Okay. Well, it seems you go to some of these places now when there's tampon machines in the men's bathroom.

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Okay.

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Where are you gonna put those, bro? Your ears, sure, yeah. Just saying, yeah, just saying. All right, so whatever. Get Detroit. So yeah, Detroit, yeah. All right, let's do it. We got way off topic. Yeah, yeah. It happens, that's why we're here. So we went from Detroit Waters. Let's go to Detroit. The basketball team.

SPEAKER_01

Pistons, yeah, sure. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02

They got a couple wins.

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Fuck, they won like 13 in a row, man. Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. Are they first in the East right now?

SPEAKER_02

They are, they are, and Toronto's right there with them. Which makes no, but that East sucks. It's bad. Yeah, yeah, it's bad. Like the bottom two teams have like two or something, two and fifteen or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's kind of crazy, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but yeah, so go go Detroit, but once again, we'll see.

SPEAKER_01

But well, the same kind of thing, right? Young team, they've been together for a few years. Like, this is this is what we were talking about. You know, you see these younger teams that have been together for a few years, they got some chemistry, they're gonna come out of the gate strong. Look at OKC, man. Same thing. That's ridiculous. 18 and 1 right now, or is that what it is? Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I don't, you know, the last time that did that happened?

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73 win Warriors team, I think.

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Yeah, and the Warriors lost in the finals. They did lose in the finals. Oh well. Yeah, yeah. Oops. Yeah, right. But yeah, I mean, it's a crazy start. I mean, yeah. Like, you know, but the old saying is it all only the last game score matters. Yeah, sure. Right? The last game you play is the only one that matters. Because, like you said, look at that. Uh 70, what was it?

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73 wins that year that they the Golden State won.

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Right.

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They started off. That was I can't remember what they they started anyway. Last time a team started 18-1 was 73 and 11. Yep. That's not 73 and 9.

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Or nine, sorry. Yeah. My math, no good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. But yeah, look at OKC.

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Yeah.

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So do the math. 20, 40, 60, 80, 1, 2, 3, 4. Could be five losses.

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If they if they keep going at the yeah.

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Somebody gonna figure out their offense.

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Right.

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Like, what the hell? Yeah. I mean they're tough.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're tough, man. I don't know. Right right now, I don't think there's like I said, like we talked about what's going on. And the games aren't close. We said Curry, you know, Curry had said in the interview was like, first let me say who hasn't gotten destroyed by them so far, right? Yeah, I think they won a game the other day. Maybe it was against Houston, which was a good game, I think. Actually, go back and look at the Highlands. And that was the like, I don't know, in their last 10 games, the only game that wasn't a double-digit win, right?

SPEAKER_02

There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So they're bleeding they're beating everybody handily, right?

SPEAKER_02

There's smoking teams, and that that confidence is gonna keep growing. Yeah, right. That's that that's a machine you're gonna have to stop. You have to cut somebody out underneath the nest. Stay healthy. Yeah, well, yeah. Stay healthy. Yeah, you know. I mean, how many 40-point games does she have for what are we doing? Holy shit, man. Yeah, can you play defense on him?

SPEAKER_01

Somebody like I don't think they can, man. I was watching him take shots over like some like everybody. Oh, everybody.

Winter Arrives: Roads, Rust, And First Snow

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't matter who I'm sorry, but it's it's slow motion too, right? Slow motion. Like he's just I'm like, oh man, man. I'm like, just take the ball.

SPEAKER_01

Go watch uh doesn't make any sense. They played Minnesota the other day, and Anthony Edwards was guarding them. Bananas. He was right up in them, man, and Shay couldn't shake him. Shea couldn't shake him. He lost the shot over the ball and he just did like a crazy turnaround. Nothing but net.

unknown

Makes no sense.

SPEAKER_01

It just makes no sense, right? At least it didn't blow the whistle. Yeah, that's right. They're kind of back up. It was good, it was good defense, man. He was uh Davis had position on him the whole time, no hand checking, like using the arms. Like it was it was good. I was like, fuck, look at him. Well, it's good to watch good defense for a second. Edwards was dug dug in, man. He was like, no, you're not getting by me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, now we got like you said, you got the raptors that are up there. So now all the people that were on the Blue Jays bandwagon are gonna jump on the Raptors bandwagon. Of course, yeah. That team's not gonna make it. Don't get excited. So in the rate right now is.

SPEAKER_01

You got the Raptors, you got the uh the Pistons. Who else is in would be up there? Milwaukee, are they doing? How are they doing? I think all right. I mean they started crap. Oh, they were four and something, but yeah, you know, Giannis always. Miami, I think, is always doing what Miami does.

SPEAKER_02

In the middle of the pack, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Indiana's injured, Boston's injured, so I don't know how they're doing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Boston took a whatchall the other day, though, and fucked up their uh winning streak. Who was it? Uh can't remember who it was, but yeah, Boston stopped another winning streak.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe it was the Pistons. Because we just said they had a 13-game win streak for the first time. I think it was the Pistons, yeah. No, maybe it was Boston.

SPEAKER_02

I think it was Boston, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So there you go. But uh yeah, the Raptors.

SPEAKER_01

Cleveland, forgot about Cleveland, Orlando. They must be up there.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, geez, Orlando, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Anyway, yeah. Yeah. But uh Lakers also, solid start. And like I said, LeBron's the third option. When did you ever see uh ever hear somebody say that? He's literally the third option. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_01

Unless well, until Luca goes off and rests, and then LeBron comes on and it's kind of him and well, you know, I think leading up to him coming back, everybody was like, Luca, you know, Lakers are doing well. And everybody was saying, How's LeBron? LeBron's gonna come in, he's gonna lose because he's gonna mess up the rhythm, because he's not gonna be able to accept that role. And so he's probably just going out there to prove everybody I can play the third role. I can do this, right? That's right. Move me off ball, make me a cutter, make me a screener, make me a cutter, right? Well, you know, he's still six, what is he, six nine? Yeah, he's still probably six nine, two forty right now, right?

SPEAKER_02

Like oh, he's gotta be bigger than two forty if Batista's two forty. Yeah, he looks skinny compared to LeBron, doesn't he? Like, you know, LeBron's legs are big, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, any six to any six nine six nine. I don't know how big Batista is, but six four. Oh, is he? Yeah, okay. Bigger than I thought.

Storms, Outages, And Naming Hurricanes

SPEAKER_02

6'4, 240. Yeah, 6'4's a big dude. That's a big dude, yeah. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, so yeah, Lakers are doing all right, like 15 and 4, whatever. You know, but here's the thing. Like, so I watched that game where they played the Mavs, right? Because I wanted to see Antonio Davis. Yeah, right. So I'm like, you know, oh, it's gonna be a tight game. I'm like, okay, hang on, ESPN. Once again, you motherfuckers are so stupid. So we're we're at we got Mavericks who are four and fourteen. Yeah. All right, so you got a 30% win rate. You're playing a team with an 82% win rate, and you think that game's supposed to be close. Are you out of your fucking mind? Like Davis came back, though. I'm assuming He's not gonna have an instant impact. If you're making bets on the game, like that game shouldn't even have been close, right? You wouldn't think so, yeah. No, you wouldn't think so.

SPEAKER_01

So the league, the league, though, man, it's like we talked about this before, especially with the way it's played now. No lead, no lead is safe. Any team can win on any given night.

SPEAKER_02

I've seen my personal own eyes at least 10 to 15 20-point fucking overcomes and and lost. Yeah. And I'm like, huh? 20 points? That's crazy. You know, well, Reggie Miller scored how many in six seconds? Whatever. Whatever. Right? So yeah, but yeah. So yeah, yeah. It's uh I would just, oh you know, geez. Uh no, the Lakers should have smoked him in that game. But Antonio Davis, he's you know, he's when he's on, he's on. Yeah. Great player. Great player. But uh Cooper Flag's the guy for that team. 18 years old, LeBron. LeBron's mad now. Because Cooper Flag is now the youngest man to hit 35 points in the history of the NBA.

SPEAKER_01

In a game, I am.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Eight years or sorry, eight days younger than LeBron.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, geez. Okay, well, that's not bad then.

SPEAKER_02

Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I thought you were gonna say, like, you know, almost a year younger, right? Because Cooper Flag's so young right now.

SPEAKER_02

Well, here's the thing. It's only happened three times.

SPEAKER_01

I guess now I guess they're the same, right? Because Cooper went one year to university and then came out. LeBron came right out of high school, so of course they'd be the same. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Right, but it's only happened three times.

SPEAKER_01

Why were what do you mean what's only happened three times?

SPEAKER_02

To score 35 points at 18 years old.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

LeBron. LeBron and then Cooper. Okay. Yeah. LeBron did it twice. Okay, yeah. Yeah. But now it doesn't matter, because now Cooper Flag got his name in the history book above LeBron.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which is pretty friggin' impressive.

SPEAKER_01

It is impressive.

SPEAKER_02

Considering if you think all the people of all the years that came into the league. Now, let's be honest, if Kobe Bryant would have been allowed to play that first year, he probably would have scored 35. But, you know, which his name didn't let him play. Yeah, Dale?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't know. I I I remember Kobe, man. Kobe had Kobe was fearless, but he had a, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't as polished as like these.

SPEAKER_02

No, he was chucking at the beginning, but still, I still think he would have scored 35 at 18.

SPEAKER_01

He could have, yeah. If they would have like said, here you go, shoot, you know. Well, that's what that's how Cooper flag cutter, right?

SPEAKER_02

You know, let's be honest. But still, 18. White, good on you, man. Yeah. This guy, poor LeBron. That's one record gone. Can't get that one back. Can't go back on a time machine. Well, yeah, probably has a time machine. Right. Oh, so Bronny was on the bench for uh that game against some Mavericks.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And now he's back at the G League.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so I thought he was, yeah, I didn't know he got called back up. Yeah. Well, well, the same they did last year, remember, he didn't go on any road games, but he was he was on the bench for every home game, but he didn't. Because he lives in LA. Yeah, but he didn't go. Well, they can keep him in the G League and get more games in. He can still play when he's home. And if he gets a chance in a blowout to get some minutes in in the game, he does, right?

SPEAKER_02

So the story is LeBron kicked him out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He said, You can't even shoot, boy. Yeah. You're not my son. Get out my house. Get out my house. Go live down in Rodeo Drive with all the homeless people. Yeah. Or wherever that is. Sure. Not Rome. Skid Row. Skid Row. Good band. There you go. Good band. Yeah. Yeah, but good on you, Cooper Flag.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, good on you.

SPEAKER_02

Impressive.

SPEAKER_01

He's had some good games.

SPEAKER_02

And uh, did you ever watch him just remind you of somebody when you watch him?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02

A little bit. He kind of reminds me of Anthony Davis in a way. Believe it or not. Yeah, it's weird. Oh. Yeah, watch him. He's got the same mannerisms kind of thing. He's kind of long in places you're not supposed to be. Sure. Yeah. That got weird. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway. Yeah. Yeah, what? But listen. So I'm watching a lot of highlights. Yeah. I watched a couple of games. The refs have put the whistle away.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, have they? Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's it's well, this is why the score is like 133, 126.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like, what are we doing, man? There's nobody in double digits. Yeah, yeah. Unless your whole first line is not playing or something.

NBA Snapshot: East Surprises And Streaks

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's funny you say that because I remember I saw a clip of uh Damar DeRozan. I think it was when the Lakers played. And Austin, Austin Reeves had like 21 free throw attempts or something like that. And maybe I fucking maybe it was an AI video, but I have to go back and look and see. Where Damar's looking at it going, 21 free throws, like for Austin Reeves, like a 21 free throws. That's what I mean. I think that's undervaluing how good Reeves is right now. If that's real, that's unbelievable. That's crazy, right?

SPEAKER_02

Does he go to the net that much?

SPEAKER_01

I guess. I didn't think he did, but yeah. Well, he can certainly create his own. He definitely can create his own.

SPEAKER_02

For what he was, he what a hell of a he bet on himself.

SPEAKER_01

Well, look, he had, you know, 38 the other half. He had what 50 some and 40 some when LeBron had before both out, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Right. But as we said before, like most guys in the MAK if they get that shot and you're the guy.

SPEAKER_01

Especially if your game translates to the league, right? And his does.

SPEAKER_02

But he was not drafted. Nobody knew who he was. He played for school for the blind at one point.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that fucking loudmouth Skip Bayless. I was like, who did I see? He said he's the best undrafted player ever. And I was like, oh, Skip Bayless. So now I don't want to agree with Skip.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but he might be, though. Who else is there?

SPEAKER_01

Uh oh my god, I can't. Why can't I think? Uh undrafted. New Donus Haslam wasn't drafted, I don't think. There's there are some players out there that went that went undrafted, but I don't think they were ever that good.

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No.

SPEAKER_02

It's shocking how good he got. Yeah. But you know what he did? He probably sat down with LeBron and just watched.

SPEAKER_01

He definitely said he absorbed, but not just for him. Like for many, like, I mean, you know, like there's always like two or three vets that come along. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He seems like his IQ is very high.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Very high. Easy to play with a guy like that if your IQ is also high.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which is why it's so hard to play with LeBron.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's what I mean. Like they're going to be able to do that. It's got to be hard to play the joke. I know going back to the Lakers is funny. Um, but it's interesting to watch because you can watch you got Luca that can get in a pick and roll with somebody, you know, uh AR that can get in pick and rolls with somebody. LeBron that can get in pick and rolls. And like all ball handlers all actually can read the floor really well. It's a problem. Yeah, it's it's I can see how that's a problem. Like JJ's got some uh some someone.

SPEAKER_02

I'm telling you, watch it. They're they're well coached, they're listening. It's like to watch them, it's like you guys are doing everything right.

SPEAKER_01

So the big thing is they've always they you know, it's the Lakers, man. They're always gonna have scores. It's their defense, right? Like how are they? So they're obviously yeah, yeah. Listen, look at the same thing. And I know they got Marcus Smart, so I don't I don't hear anything about Marcus Smart, but he you know they brought him in for defense, right?

SPEAKER_02

I know we're not we're not even seeing him, he's not even playing.

SPEAKER_01

He must be playing. That's what I mean. A little bit, but he's not gonna score, he's not gonna do all the flat.

SPEAKER_02

But you're not you're not really I don't know. Yeah, like you know, the name's not sticking out. Right, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01

They're too busy showing Luke and I know and I know they said Richie got uh Hachimura. Is that yeah, he got he got really he got like improved a lot on defense, so yeah, he and he's also a streaky shooter, so if he gets going, you know. I think early on, wasn't Luca leading the like steals per game for a while there?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, steal, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think he's leading the league and scoring now, isn't he? Well he was, yeah. I don't know if he still is.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if he still is.

SPEAKER_02

I uh Shay's up there too, like 30 some points.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's about three or four people in there right now, averaging over 30 things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Well, okay, hang on. So just came to me so quickly. So remember we were talking last time we talked about the greatest and the best, and I still said Michael Jordan's the greatest. Here's another reason Michael Jordan's the greatest. 15 seasons, yeah, 10 scoring titles. Where's that, LeBron? Where's that, Kobe? Right? Yeah, just saying. Yeah, just saying that's domination, right? Six rings, six MVPs, that's domination. Six times. That's the greatest of all time.

SPEAKER_01

He won defensive player of the year and MVP. Oh, there's another thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and first all defensive team for all those years, too. For number of years. So not only, not only is he s the best player on his team, he's guarding the best player on the other team. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Greatest of all time. Sorry, LeBron.

SPEAKER_01

He's, you know, say what you will. Jordan definitely was score first, and for a lot of years, I don't even know. I don't even know if he knew how to pass, but he was a decent passer. Like he's got a big thing. He could pass if he wanted to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and when he wanted to shoot three, too.

SPEAKER_01

He read the game really well. Yep. Yeah. Anyway, uh, you know I'm a Jordan guy, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, it's he can't, it's not LeBron can't be the greatest. Yeah. I told you he can be the best, but he can't be the greatest because it's not even close. Put those stats beside anybody, not even close.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think with LeBron, I came out saying he coming into the league with a lot of pressure and he handled himself really well. Yep. Fun to watch. Yep. Uh he definitely was, you know, like, you know, head down, barrel to the rim, dunk on somebody. That was his game. But he could, you know, you rebound, but he's, you know, again, 6'9, 260 back then. Like, is that what he was? Something crazy. Imagine Johnson, man, with more skills. Yeah, the guy, and you know, you know, same with Jordan when they talk about him. It's like he had a 40-some-inch vertical. Like, you just couldn't guard that. Like, LeBron has a massive, you know, vertical as well, right? Like, LeBron can get up. He's just I've been watching Jordan. He's some of those dunks with LeBron where he's like looking, he's at the rim looking at it. Like his head's at the rim, man. It's crazy, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I just watched one where uh Vince Carter jumped over. What's his name there in the USA team? Remember when Vince Carter dunked over the gun. Oh, the French Olympics. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was just watching dunks the other day. Oh, yeah, I forget about that. That's when Vince Carter had hair.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's when he had hair, yeah. Yeah, that was a crazy dunk. And he almost, if you said, almost got punched in the face when Kevin Grenette. Yeah, yeah.

OKC’s Surge And Shai’s Shotmaking

SPEAKER_02

It was real close. Good to be no cold. Yeah, but yeah, like we were saying, the the refs are putting the whistles away. Right? So, you know, it looks to me like that's great, except when the playoffs come and you start blowing the whistle again for those ticky-tack files, you can't do that. So you gotta make sure you don't fuck up our playoffs by doing that. Either call it or don't.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the playoffs will be everybody changes their defensive schemes in the playoffs. They try to slow the game down, right? Because, you know, it becomes speaking of that, the fucking fogfest.

SPEAKER_02

So uh the Mavericks played box and one against the Lakers. Oh, did they? Yeah, I'm like, what are you guys doing? Oh yeah. Okay, yeah. When do you fucking see that? Yeah. Right? High school? High school?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there you go. Maybe college ball. Right, maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, yeah, so yeah, that's what we say. Sorry. Oh, I was just saying that uh, you know, the game, the game does get a lot more physical. Uh, but they need to set the precedent of what's a foul and what isn't now. You're right. Because when they get into the playoffs, you can't all of a sudden, like you said, it's gonna get more physical, and all of a sudden you recognize it's gonna get more physical. So then you become a little more whistle happy, and then every then the ticky-tac foul starts.

SPEAKER_02

There's been some serious fouls, man. I'm telling you. Like, oh yeah, like ones that I'm like, you didn't call that. Oh uh, okay. You know, it's like back in the day that I think I sent you that video where it's the clean block, and he's like on top of it. It's like rotum like a pony. Oh, I was just watching some bird highlights too, because you gotta you forget about that guy too, right? You young people have no idea. Go back and watch. It's bananas.

SPEAKER_01

There's some there's some cool videos out there. You ever watch the videos of like younger folks reacting to some of the highlight reels from like Jordan? Oh no, I've never seen stuff. They're fun. People I I think people can recognize, like, I didn't know Bird had a game like that, right? Like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Unreal. Well, they had to change the rule because you're not allowed to shoot over. Remember, he used to shoot from behind the backboard. Yeah, that's right. Scores them. Oh, and then I was watching the ones where you know, it's like three seconds left, you're at your own end, like this and fucking swish. Right? Crazy. Yeah, well, Curry was play doing that the other day just in practice, just fucking around. Yeah, I don't think he missed any. So he they said uh Oh, we also shot from sitting down. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think they asked Curry, like, who would you love to play in a game of horse? And he said Luca, because Luca's the same. If you ever watch Luca, no, it's a trophy. He does all these crazy jobs. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_02

He does, you're right, during practice, during practice. Did you see the interview with Luca the other game when they beat the Mavs? Austin Reef comes to me on he goes, I still have more dunks than he does. Oh yeah. And then Luca goes, I play defense. All right. Excuse me. I'm like, no, you don't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. They're comparing how many dunks they have.

SPEAKER_01

When have you ever seen Luca dunk the ball? Don't see Luca dunk very often. I was gonna say, I probably see Austin dunk more than more than Luca. Well, yeah, that's why it was so funny.

SPEAKER_02

Austin just comes behind him, right? Anyway. Well, you got anything to add today? No, ma'am. It's all good. Pretty much it. I told you about that ding dong that almost creamed me in the back. Once again, people, this idiot's driving so close to me on the highway, and we come over this crest, and all of a sudden the car in front of me is stopped, and everybody stops, so I had to pile the brakes on. Guy behind me is like, ooh, like this, and then he's all mad and pissed off because he thinks I brake checked him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, I was trying not to get killed myself. Pay attention, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, pay attention to your bumper ride.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like holy well, that's the thing. Your car can't stop. You're driving a 98 Ford piece of human garbage truck. Right. And who tints their windows on a Ford truck? What are you doing? Like, I couldn't even see in the car as he was driving it. No, really. Probably some fucking eight-year-old. Remember, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

See that video of the two cats driving. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02

Some of those are so I know some of those are pretty good, right? Some of those are so good. But anyway, all right. Oh, yeah. Remember, I was telling you, uh, our uh tech guy was telling me that Finland. Oh yeah, Finland is starting to watch our stuff. Uh maybe because we're bitching about the cold, and they're like, oh, those two pussies from the Halifax, they don't know what the cold is, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I do. Yeah, I do. So but yeah, Finland of all places. Well, you know, people Austin, Texas is still following us. Okay. We're hoping it's Rogan. Yeah, we're hoping it's Rogan. Right, yeah. All the command all the comedians are in Austin, so it's got to be one of those fellows watching our stupid shit. But uh once again, if you like basketball, you probably appreciate our stuff. So we apologize to all those housewives that are not liking basketball. You know, when you have to watch with your husband who's watching us.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Sorry.

Lakers’ Identity, Roles, And Defense

SPEAKER_02

All right, you know, we're trying to throw thumb things in there, but uh we're not gonna be talking about uh female hygiene products anymore anymore. Anymore, I guess. We already talked about tampons earlier, too. Yeah, well, hey, we'll put them right here, and I will definitely push those. And yeah, you know, Christmas is coming up. People need those things for stocking stuffers. Sure. Yeah. Whatever kind of stuffers, I guess. Whatever, yeah. Yeah, so anyway. All right, so you know, once again, catch us on uh Buzzsprout, of course, which gives you the uh Apple and Spotify options to either hear or watch. And you can see it on my channel with Coach Bobby uh Muslim Fiction. And uh we're gonna go out and uh maybe sit by the fire and roast some marshmallows. What do you think? Or some hot dogs, something like that. Something like that. Or we can go out and cook one of them chickens. I don't know. Those chickens are kidding, of course. We just eat the eggs. So anyway, have yourself a good day, people. And we're still doing it. Thumbs up!

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