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Trauma to Triumph: Reclaiming Power with Jules

Fran Barley Season 2 Episode 6

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✨ Hello, I'm Fran, your NLP Coach, and in this episode, I'm interviewing Julie Dalton.

Meet Jules — an Identity Empowerment Coach and Mindset Mastery Specialist who transforms hidden struggles into unstoppable breakthroughs. Rising from deep personal trauma, she helps professionals and leaders rewire their minds, reclaim their power, and step into authentic success. Her message is powerful yet simple: your past does not define your future; your mindset does.

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https://www.tiktok.com/@jules_unseen2unbreakable
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Fran:

Hello everyone, welcome to the Melancholy Coaching Podcast. I'm Fran, your host and NLP coach. Join me as I interview inspiring business owners and self-improvement seekers about their experiences, while delving into personal development, motivation and strategies for overcoming challenges. Let's ignite our creative potential together.

Fran:

Hello and welcome to the Melancholy Coaching Podcast. I'm Fran, your NLP coach, and I'm thrilled to introduce an identity empowerment coach and mindset mastery specialist who transforms hidden struggles into unstoppable breakthroughs. Rising from deep personal trauma, she helps professionals and leaders rewire their minds, reclaim their power and step into authentic success. Her message is simple yet powerful your past does not define your future. Your, your mindset does. Jules, welcome to the show.

Jules:

Thank you so much, fran, for having me today. I'm so excited.

Fran:

Well, complete transparency for anybody listening. Jules and I actually know each other, so we met as coaches. After we'd retrained as coaches, we met during a training weekend and have been firm coach friends ever since.

Jules:

Yes, we did. It was a good weekend as well, wasn't it? Yeah, it was eventful.

Fran:

Yeah it was. I've got a couple of questions for you that I'm that I'm curious about, and then we'll have a little chat around them. If that's okay, of course, that's fine. Can you share the moment when you realized mindset is the key to your own progress?

Jules:

Of course, excuse me. I think there I really had hit rock bottom and I was around a couple of people that were talking about this mindset thing and, let's face it, you know, through social media there is so much out there about mindset and obviously this is going back a few years ago and I was intrigued. I've got a tickle, sorry, I was really intrigued by it because I'd got to a point where I'd hit rock bottom. I'd got to a point where I'd hit rock bottom because of the things that I had been through and it just had failed one after another, after another and after another and I was absolutely mentally tired. I wanted to give up.

Jules:

To be honest with you, I'd done many things to try and boost the energy where I was just so mentally exhausted. That wasn't working, it was just numbing it. I spoke to one or two people, which it was lovely, with what they said I don't worry, jules, it will get better. Okay, but it wasn't getting better. I'd gone to the doctor and nothing about against the medical organization, but I didn't want to take a pill because one day, yeah, one day I wanted to get off the pill.

Jules:

I wanted to talk to someone, but I didn't know what. I wanted to talk about waiting lists, because I couldn't afford anything at the time, because I wasn't working, because I'd hit rock bottom. Waiting lists were an incredible amount of months one and a half months, sometimes three years. And, yeah, it was just. I just knew I, I had this burning desire inside me and I just wanted more to be honest with you, I wanted answers, I wanted someone to just listen to me and not take it all away, because I know they couldn't take it away, because it was me that had gone through and experienced the trauma and the upset that I'd gone through. And it wasn't even for someone to say do you know what it's going to be better? Because I didn't want better at that time, because I just could not feel anything. And then I have been listening to different reels on social media and you know what the algorithm is like. When you start listening to one sort of positive mindset reel, it brings in, it floods in a lot of others and I think at that point I just I had this pull and I can't explain what it is, what it was obviously. Now I believe it's a subconscious mind. I just had this pull that I needed and wanted to know more. And you sort of like you, you sift through the good and the bad on the social media platforms and I was noticing that I had this pattern. And this pattern wasn't just about toxic partners or toxic family, because that wasn't really doing anything for me. It was more about your mindset how you wake up in the mornings. In the mornings, the moment you first open your eyes, those first few seconds minutes are are vital, and my head at that point was going a thousand miles an hour because of having adhd hadn't been diagnosed at that point so it was another weight or another burden where it was just holding me down. And then someone that I knew funny enough ex-partner. He recommended that I listen to this motivational speaker and I was like yeah, yeah, okay, whatever. But he was like no, it's really really good.

Jules:

At that point, to be honest with you, I was so desperate because I was tired of breaking down in tears and rocking on the bed like a baby and sitting on the balcony and thinking it's just going to be so much easier. I just needed it to stop my head, you know, and I listened to this guy and I remember sitting there, you know, I'll say this person started to watch the first hour with me of this session and as I, it was locked down. So, again, very limited, obviously. Everyone knows that situation in that time period. So this most rational speaker was doing it through Zoom, but such a wide, wide audience.

Jules:

I remember watching it on the television and there were so many screens with so many people all the way around the world. To be honest with you, and on the back of my head I was thinking, yeah, but you know, is it true, was this just a money maker type of thing? And they were like giving like little little talks, and I was thinking, yeah, I can relate to that. Yeah, I feel a little bit like that, still not trusting the process, and then, like they throw an audience, I throw a question to the audience, and I'd be sitting there thinking, yeah, but you had to answer, because then they would emphasise Simon, everybody, what do you think? Come on, let me hear you.

Jules:

And I was going like yeah, and then my ex-partner was going, no, no, get it out of you, because you've been holding so much in over the years of different traumatised experience and things that I'd gone through, that I just buried it so, so deep and this event went on for four days and it was through the night. So again, my memory was tricking me because, obviously, where I had tried to, it was putting me into a place where I was used to going back through experience of what I was used to. So if I had done an all-nighter and I do apologize if I I'd be thinking, oh my god, no, I should be asleep. So my mental thought pattern was I wanted to learn but I needed to be asleep. I'm now awake all night because it was coming from America and I was thinking. Again, I was fighting mentally but I also knew I needed to stop this process because that process that got me through so many years wasn't healthy and it wasn't actually fixing my problem. So it's trust in the process and you made that.

Fran:

You made that active decision, didn't you? You made that active decision to actually help yourself at that point because you know what, fran, I was desperate.

Jules:

I was so desperate because I knew I didn't want to be where I was. I didn't I felt depressed, but I knew I didn't want to be where I was. I didn't I felt depressed, but I knew I wasn't depressed. I felt so low and so literally like depression. You know when your thought process is like you're sloshing through that thick mud. You know you want to get to the edge, but you just don't know how you're going to get there. Yeah, listening to this motivational speaker, I actually thought, wow, that first day, wow, that was. It sounded all new and I was attracted to it. But, I'll be honest with you, still didn't trust the process, far from it. Did the second day, did the third day, I was on a high, absolutely on a high. And then the fourth day was, for me, so spiritually motivating. It was the first time that I actually managed to do proper meditation and it was an actual out-of-body experience. And without saying, I don't know if I can mention his name, it was the motivational tool, but it was Tony Robbins.

Fran:

I know who you're talking about.

Jules:

Yeah, if you go to Sikkim Live. You get to walk across the hot coals, yeah, but you get sent this plank of wood, yeah, where you break it. You look at the wood. You think like no way, and I broke it the first go of breaking it. I actually broke it and that was who I wanted. That's who I wanted to become. That's when I knew mindset therapy was the answer. Now, you know I'm not saying it's the answer for everybody, but for me, when I knew mindset therapy was the answer. Now, you know I'm not saying it's the answer for everybody, but for me, when I think about everything that I had gone through and I had every reason not to want to get up the next morning, every reason from every angle, from friends, from family, from society, from everything I didn't have a there was no reason for me to actually want to wake up the next day, but there was something inside me that wanted to wake up the next day.

Fran:

This is part of your breakthrough, though. So, although this may not be for somebody else, it's because something else is for them.

Jules:

You know, this is just something that works for you in the way of a breakthrough and that actually enlightened you to your actual mindset and your your mindset being the key to your own progress let's face it, when you know we are everybody's is, everybody is different, nobody is the same and we think differently, we speak differently, we want things differently, we go through things differently and we deal with things differently. And this goes back to me saying that that one pill, how can that one same pill do something for me as it's done for 100? Because we're all so different.

Fran:

And that's no judgment either for anybody that does no no rely on on medication, whether it be for long term or short term.

Jules:

That's what's going to work for them in that moment in time, definitely definitely so, things that I learned I I knew that this was great for me. At that time, I wasn't really thinking about, okay, well, that tool can help that person, this tool that I've learned can help that person. At that moment, in that time, it was for me and that felt weird because the abuse I've gone through, thinking about me, was wrong, it was selfish, it was a negative, but I was so drawn and so in love with everything that I had learnt. I wanted to share it with other people. That was probably the very start of my mindset journey, because on that journey, everything that I learnt, yeah, it was for me. On that journey, everything that I learned, yeah, it was for me.

Jules:

However, I was then realizing, the more we talk and obviously before that I was a beauty therapist, so I'm a therapist anyway and you're listening to people and you obviously have to have confidentiality with what you're listening to because they're your clients. So I never shared any details or anything like that. However, things that they were saying and I could offer a little bit of advice because they were asking me what was my opinion. So, in a professional way, I gave a little bit of my thought process, but not telling them to make any decisions, but just saying to them why don't you think about it like this? But I actually wasn't putting one and one together and thinking, yeah, two, two being mindset therapy.

Jules:

So I already had a passion, obviously, with what I do, what I did do with the eyelashes of wanting people to feel good about themselves. And as the more I was learning, the more I was looking into it, the more I was learning, the more I was looking into it, the more I was now starting to listen to podcasts, the more I then started to think do you know what, if this can help me? And I'll be honest with you, at that time I didn't actually still appreciate what I had actually gone through. I didn't know either what I was about to go through as well. I just felt if I could help one person, one other person, with what I had learnt, acknowledged and then eventually be qualified in it. For me, that was something that I truly had a passion, and I had a passion there and then for wanting to help others Because, like I say, with everything that I had gone through, I needed something, and the mindset therapy was definitely what, what got me through it's an important point that you raised, actually, of being asked for advice.

Fran:

So you gave it and as coaches, we work on permission. We're permission based, so we don't necessarily impart advice, although we can ask to share something that we've gone through. But people have to be ready to come forward, don't they?

Jules:

they have to be ready to want to help themselves 100 and you know there's trauma comes through all types of areas of our lives. One part of that which I can relate to well, I can relate to one part of that, but I'll just emphasize on is abusive relationships. You can't tell someone. If someone's talking to you and they're telling you, for example, about what sort of relationship they're in, how they're feeling. It could be very easy about what sort of relationship they're in, how they're feeling. It could be very easy, especially for someone that's gone through it, to run and say you know what you need to leave, just get out now. You can't do that. That person has to come to the decision themselves and you can't decide for anybody. And that's the same with coaching. We don't ever tell our clients what to do. They have to come to that decision themselves. We're their guide.

Fran:

So we're their guides through that transformation. As such, yes, and it's all permission-based. Yes, I've got another question for you because I'm a curious little girl. So what's one step that listeners so anybody listening today what's one step that they can take towards their own authentic success?

Jules:

Success is a funny word. How do we judge it? Or how do we even view, or how do we even explain what success is? Because, you know, success isn't about impressing anybody, is it? It's about unless you want it to be?

Jules:

yeah, that's true, but when it's your own personal success and you are talking about this journey in life, it's really about aligning our actions with what truly matters to ourselves, and that would be the same to your listeners as well. You know, we are actually living in a world where success is often measured by a surface level of achievements and to a point when we brought up and we're in a society that's what we do, don't we? Especially in a corporate life, maybe Our success is what we've got materially. For example, it's like we award ourselves with little trophies it could even be what sort of car, how high or low the income is. While those things can be part of our journey, they aren't the destination.

Jules:

And I know for myself, when I've brought something, I thought, yeah, that's amazing. Once I've brought it, it's like where's the next thing? What's the next thing going to be? Now? You know so authentic success is it's personal, it's quiet, it's the kind of success that doesn't always come with applause. And that's another thing you learn when you go on a journey, because sometimes you think, oh my God, I've just achieved that. And you're looking around and it's like, oh my God, there's no one else around to acknowledge or to praise you for your success. Now, I'm not saying there's no family members or partners or friends, because I know with yourself, when you see me grow, you're like you. You've done so so well. It comes from ourselves, doesn't it, at the end of the day.

Jules:

So, with that in mind, something, what does it feel like successful? It feels like when you wake up and you're feeling just like you are living your own values. You're doing it for you, and if no one else ever comments about it or praises you, you're actually doing it for yourself. What does success look like then, if no one's actually watching you or you're answering the questions, not anyone else's, it's your own compass.

Jules:

You're the author of your story and, like we say as coaches, it's now the present that then gives us purpose to move into the future. We now become our own authors of our own book. And when you get to that point, that feeling, that feeling of success, seeing that actually what the work that you've put in, that feeling no money can ever buy, that feeling is absolutely amazing, absolutely amazing. So, because the truth is, at the end of the day, when you define success for yourself, you stop chasing. You stop chasing other people's approval, you start creating something that's sustainable, something that's fulfilling and something that's real, and you're being honest to yourself, and that's where the real power behind your own success is.

Fran:

And that's where the one step that anybody listening can actually do today is to acknowledge that they can have success.

Jules:

It's what success means to them, so it's completely contextual within their own kind of values alignment and what they want to achieve and that might be hard for some people to to absorb and some people to take in, because, again, we are also very, very different, also very different. But those of us that have been mums and we've had babies, you know we all have that newborn baby in our arms and we think what the hell do we do? And there are so many baby books on the shelves but, yeah, that one baby book is not going to suit your own baby, so you have to figure it out yourself, because you learn day by day what your own baby needs. Yeah, we get the sense of direction, we get the sense of if you do it this way, this is going to make it better in the future. But then you can read another book which actually contradicts that. You know.

Fran:

There are different ways of learning, aren't there? So for me, we're all different learners aren't we yeah?

Fran:

you know. So for me, I do love books. Yeah, so I love the classic literature books. If it's a fiction book, then sorry. If it's a non-fiction book for actually academic learning, then I'm going to take a highlighter pen to it, I'm going to fold those pages and I'm going to like put my highlighter pen through it because that's to fold those pages, and I'm going to like put my highlighter pen through it because that's the way that I learn. I have to take each section in in, you know, little chunks. So this, this is all. This is all about the fact that we're all different learners as well, so it's finding the thing that's going to suit you. This, these transformations that are offered. You know I offer transformations through my coaching you do for yours. They're available for people and there are different ways of them accessing that due to different learning styles and different places people are on in their journey of life as well. Yeah, because once you've got these tools and resources, there are standard sets of tools and resources that can be used.

Jules:

Yes, yeah, definitely, definitely. And that's the beautiful thing about the mindset, because you're teaching yourself something new. Because when I say you're teaching yourself something new, it's because and most of the time, we just almost drift into a life pattern, a work pattern, a relationship pattern. When we sometimes have that wake-up call, then it changes and, having that mindset, we learn what the need is that we have, which tool is going to help us and our clients. Like you said, and that's the wonderful thing, there are so many tools for NLP coaching out there. There are so many tools, so many tools in mindset transformation. And, yeah, that's honestly the most wonderful beautiful thing about the mindset because it's not just sticking a plaster on a wound, it's healing the wound from underneath to then come to the surface and we know when those tools are applied it's going to work, definitely, definitely going to work amazing.

Fran:

Thank you for sharing. So what's what's next for you, jules?

Jules:

um, I seem to be more drifting into public speaking, which, when I very first started my coaching journey, I think we've always said, yeah, public speaking, podcasting, haven't done the podcasting bit yet. You're ahead of me with that. Public speaking, yeah, that's what I'm doing a little bit more of. I've been a guest a couple of times in Bangladesh not literally, physically, but online and that's been a real privilege to be part of. It's been, it's been lovely. So, yes, public speaking again to help people, podcasting and to offer retreats, which is something else that I've always wanted to do as well.

Fran:

So, yeah, now, I know that you're on TikTok, yes. So for those of you curious about identity empowerment coaching, you can find Jules on TikTok. Now, on TikTok, you're Jules, underscore unseen to unbreakable and it's a number two. Yeah, and that's a platform that you're just starting to build up, aren't you? That's very coaching related.

Jules:

Yes, it just gives again things that helps me at the very beginning, for example, like the motivation, motivating. All quotes I obviously give offer little tips to help, little tools to try and help. And it's building up a trust as well with people, because you know so many are out there that are unfortunately saying what they do but they're not qualified in doing it. We know that we are qualified with it and we're experienced. We've gone through things. Now we've got the actual qualification to offer the tools because we know we're going to help. So it's like having a double whammy, isn't it really? Now I've got the actual qualification to offer the tools because we're not going to have to.

Fran:

It's like having a double whammy, isn't it really? You're also just starting a YouTube channel, so again, that's Unseen to Unbreakable, isn't?

Jules:

it on YouTube. The reason I actually called it unseen to unbreakable is I see you and I see you. When someone is standing there, I see them. And to hear someone say to them, when I heard someone say to me I see you, I see you, I, I see you, I see what you're going through and it's like an arrow going into your heart. It was for me and it's comforting. So, going from unseen, thinking that you're invisible, pushing those feelings down, becoming out of control within yourself, going from that to becoming someone that is actually unbreakable, that's grounded, that has got the power within themselves to rise and to shine. That's why I call it Unseen to Unbreakable.

Fran:

And that in itself is the transformation. To go from unseen to unbreakable is the transformation itself, isn't it? You're also on facebook. I'm not sure how active you are on facebook with your actual coaching I'm not on facebook anymore. I accidentally deleted it, so it's a personal account that you have on Facebook.

Jules:

So my main platforms are TikTok, linkedin, and I've just started to. Oh, of course, linkedin, yes, and I've just started to. I've just opened up the YouTube channel, so I'm just looking at content to get that together. I've just also started to do my TikTok lives as well. I interview different people. You was my beautiful guest yesterday. Hi, you're welcome. So yeah, so it's just slowly getting myself out there and to be seen.

Fran:

Yeah, well, that's the beauty of these social media platforms in that we can choose where to show up. So you mentioned social media earlier and the algorithm and stuff like that. This has just reminded me to say to any listeners that are interested in in the social media part of it you get to show up how you want to and where you want to. You don't need to share everything. You share what you want to be seen. So, whether that's for a personal point of view or whether it's that you've got a business profile or you know you're starting a little business or something like that, however it is, you use it with that intention.

Fran:

You don't have to share everything on social media. You can have it as private or just not put it out there at all, and I always forget about it's just an example as well. I always forget about LinkedIn because I don't use it. So when you said LinkedIn, I'm like oh yeah, of course you're on LinkedIn because I know that you're on there. I just don't. I don't use. It's not a platform that I use. No, and that's okay. You know, we, we show up where, where we choose to and where we think our audience is best served.

Fran:

Yeah, definitely, definitely yeah, and I know that you're going to encourage me to get going more on TikTok.

Jules:

I am. Yes, isn't it funny. Different areas yeah, then let's, let's scratch that. But yeah, tiktok is definitely a platform, is definitely becoming more for businesses to promote their business.

Fran:

Yeah, especially the video, just just out of interest. What's so talking about coaching and coaching techniques and stuff like that? Do you have a favorite technique? Do you have a go-to you know, one that kind of resonates with you more with the type of coaching that?

Jules:

you do for myself or for other people, either okay, either, okay. I know this one for me. First, it's grounding. Grounding myself, because I'm always one of those that I could be living in a beautiful country, but I'm still thinking the next thing where's it going to take me? What am I going to do? Where am I going to go from here? Where's it going to take me? What am I going to do? Where am I going to go from here?

Jules:

And by grounding yourself, breathing, you know, fully grounding yourself with the breathing and everything else. That's the number one thing. Then it's the timeline, because oh really, yes, I mean, there's so many tools there, there are so many tools. The timeline because for me, where my head is having ADHD, I'm always racing forward. I've always got a thousand things going on in my head, so I need to slow that down. I'm going to miss the moment to slow that down. I wasn't going to miss the moment. Doing the timeline and then anchoring that special moment of what I want to do. It does it's a sense of grounding as well, because it makes it more real for me and it really does give me a focus, because, having ad, I lose concentration so quickly. I get distracted.

Fran:

It's like using. So you're using that timeline to actually put a pinpoint in it and say that's the place, that's where we're heading, that's the place.

Jules:

That's the goal. Now. That can all change because you know what, for me, I love manifesting and that can change. Do you know what I mean? But I know what my goals are, but I know what my goals are, I know what my goals are. So I have done my mood board with a relationship the house, first class or business class, podcast, public speaking and that's for me see it, feel it, live it and it just makes it a purpose. Past you can't tell anything about. Present brings you to a purpose and that, for me, does so much for me, and I've seen it do so much for others as well that I've talked to so, just for anybody listening as well, by timeline we mean timeline coaching.

Fran:

There is also timeline therapy, but I you know, jules and I do timeline coaching and that is that you have a timeline stretching out of what's gone before the present moment in time and what's to come in the future. So it's really good for pinpointing those intentions and those goals. It's really good on working towards things and it can act like, you know, your north star that guides you and, as coaches, that's what we can do for clients as well, because we can do timeline coaching and I love that. It's very good. It's just on track as well. Yeah, absolutely. I'm just going to say I love that you've got a like a. Is it like a mood? What did you call it? A mood board or a vision board?

Jules:

some people call it a mood board vision boards. I probably named it wrong vision board, because you name it what you name it. Yeah, yeah, definitely when I yeah for me that, when I yeah for me that's. I used to have it on my home screen on my phone, but I think I changed the picture. But yeah, just seeing that and I think, yeah, that keeps me on track. I also have to write things down every day that I've got to do as well.

Fran:

Oh, I make lists on lists and I doodle on everything. I'm somebody that responds very well to either pictures or having something written down. Yeah, me too. So that whole kind of visual aspect of what you want and thinking about what you want, you know, is a lovely thing within a vision board. Yeah, definitely working towards success as well, because you truly picture and then you know embody the things that you want to be, or picture the things that you, that you want to achieve and that can help.

Jules:

And I think you saying that, friend, you know, sometimes when we talk to individuals, you know we say some wrong questions. What do you want to do? Where do you see yourself? And I know for me, I was stuck with the answer for that for so, so long, so long. And then when I did think, yeah, but that just seems total, if I had a thought in my head, I thought, yeah, but that's so far out. I've never reached that. Or yeah, but that's really, is that for me, because I've been doing this routine for so long, so many years.

Jules:

Honestly, if someone had said to me 10 years ago, this is what I would do and I say 10 years because obviously I was divorced, going through a divorce, I had no tell-a-lie, I wasn't even going through a divorce at that point, ten years ago, if someone said to me I would be living in a certain place, doing a certain thing, helping others, having goals that aren't even crossing my mind, I would have turned around and said I'm sorry, but you don't actually know me, because this is me and now my life is. It's completely changed, all for the good. That's the journey. You know, I've had to go through some horrific things, but it didn't stop me from ending up, which is my reason for living my purpose, but that's the thing as well, isn't it?

Fran:

We can always change, you know, we can change, we can evolve, can we can change, we can evolve, we can develop and, and definitely we can do that with our minds, and that's what mindset's all about, definitely yeah, definitely yeah, well, thank you for joining me today, jules.

Fran:

We've kept it all nice and professional because obviously Jules and I know each other, so so again, just to reiterate, for anybody interested in Jules and what she gets up to and the the type of coaching that she does, then you can find her on tiktok as Jules underscore, unseen, number two, unbreakable on linkedin I'm gonna remember linkedin this time youtube, which has just started, so it's a channel that's just started, so unseen to unbreakable on on youtube. And for anybody looking you up, I'm gonna put your name out there it's jules dalton.

Jules:

So yeah, thank you, and thank you so much for being as a guest um. It's been absolutely joyful. Thank you, I've really enjoyed it. I know it's been long awaited. I know you've been trying to get me to um.

Fran:

Come on here, I know keep trying to encourage you to come on my podcast. I know oh dear. So if you're interested in more content like this, be sure to visit wwwmelancholymentalcom and follow us for the latest updates. This podcast also goes out on YouTube, and so it goes out in video format as well, and I always try not to be too distracted by the video because I've got different screens up on my laptop, because sometimes my camera glitches and stuff like that and it kind of throws me off a little bit. So I'm always like don't look at the camera, don't look at the camera. This goes out on YouTube as well. This goes out on YouTube as well. So wherever you find this, you'll either find this somewhere out on social media as the actual podcast or on YouTube. Then just drop a follow and come and say hello and until next time, stay curious and keep igniting your creative potential.

Fran:

Bye, Bye. Thank you for joining me on the Melancholy Coaching Podcast. I'd love you to subscribe For queries or to connect email info at melancholymentorcom. Until next time, keep igniting your creative potential.

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