Mindset Makeover

✨ Hello, I’m Fran, Your NLP & Business Coach. I’m exploring a wide range of business ideas and money-making paths, with practical takeaways you can apply.

In this episode, I’m interviewing Paige Spaven.

Paige is a Mindset and Confidence coach for female entrepreneurs seeking to grow their businesses through strategic and subconscious mindset tools. She is also a mum of 2, an author and the founder of the Mindset Makeover Academy.

You can connect to Paige in the following ways ⬇️
https://www.instagram.com/paige_spaven/
https://stan.store/paigespaven

* As a coach, I listen without judgment, understanding that others views may differ from my own.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome And Guest Introduction
• 2:17 Confidence, Fear And Entrepreneurial Growth
• 5:25 Contextual Confidence And Life Curveballs
• 8:06 Practising What You Preach As A Coach
• 10:58 Work Life Balance Through Time Boundaries
• 14:29 Intentional Habits And Healthy Boundaries
• 18:13 Growth Mindset And Personal Evolution
• 21:02 What’s Next: Retreats, Speaking And New Challenges
• 24:02 Who Paige Supports Across Industries
• 26:12 Complementary Coaching Styles And Offers

Transcript

Fran: 0:00

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Melancholy Coaching Podcast. I'm Brian, your host and NLP coach. Join me as I interview inspiring business owners and self-improvement seekers about their experiences whilst delving into personal development, motivation and strategies for overcoming challenges. Let's ignite our creative potential together. Hello and welcome to Melancholy Coaching Podcast, the show that highlights different business owners and ideas. I'm Fran, your NLP and business coach, and I'm honoured to introduce a very special guest. She's a mum of two, an author and founder of the Mindset Makeover Academy. Paige is a mindset and confidence coach for female entrepreneurs seeking to grow their businesses through strategy and subconscious mindset tools. Paige, welcome to the show.

Paige: 1:01

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Fran: 1:04

You're welcome, you're welcome. I've got like a couple of little lamps going on here, and one of them just went out, which is why I twitched, you know, I was sort of looking at it. So for anybody listening, this also goes out in video format on YouTube, which you know, so you might notice that that my lamp went out. We're actually recording this in December, so this is due to go out on the 26th of December, which is a nice little Christmas post-Christmas gift for everybody. And before transparency, Paige and I have actually met in person, and she's actually my coach. So hence being a very special guest, because even though I've got all of the tools and all of the things to help myself and other people, our training is very different. The way that we implement our coaching knowledge is very different, and I still need to strengthen my mindset and have tools and techniques to keep moving me forward. Um so whether you're a coach yourself or whether you're you've got a different entrepreneurial business as a female, then come and check out what Paige is up to. And me, of course. So I've got a couple of questions to ask you, Paige, and we'll have a little chat around that if that's okay with you.

Paige: 2:18

Yes, of course.

Fran: 2:19

And I'm gonna go straight in with what's the most common outcomes that you help your clients achieve.

Paige: 2:27

I'd definitely say the biggest one is confidence because it's so encompassing of other areas that a lot of female entrepreneurs struggle with. And one of the biggest things that comes under confidence is fear, but the two are so intrinsically linked in terms of if we feel in fear of something, we therefore don't feel confident in that area. And when we start kind of tackling the fears, the thoughts around the fears, the energy and the emotion, that all plays into then a wider level of self-confidence in terms of what we feel we can achieve, what we feel like we can do, how confident we feel towards doing that thing that we have a certain level of fear towards. So I would definitely say confidence because it really does kind of wrap up a lot of those other elements that business owners struggle with.

Fran: 3:20

Yeah. And for me in particular, it's it's contextual. So although I've got the tools and techniques, I've been working very heavily on my self-improvement and my mindset, there's certain areas in which I don't feel as confident. Showing up potentially and things like that. And that's where you come in to help guide me. So it's also it doesn't necessarily mean that it's an overarching thing of you're not a confident person or you've you've got the identity of not a confident person. It could be a contextual thing that in certain contexts, whether it be you know within your life or your business, you've got a little wobble, you know.

Paige: 3:58

Absolutely. And you've summed that up really nicely because life does happen, and things happen in our lives that throw curveballs or that knock us a little bit or cause delays in where we want to be, where we I think we're going. And then that brings in a level of self-doubt, that comparison piece. So it's again having that mindset that backs you up through all of those phases of life through those curveballs, because it's the foundations of the mindset that support how you show up in the face of all of that.

Fran: 4:33

Yeah, yeah, I can I completely agree. And I know that it works because I've received it. So thinking about you as a coach, so what's been your biggest challenge as a coach and how did you overcome it?

Paige: 4:49

I think for me as a coach, teaching mindset and confidence, again, like you've said, whilst navigating a lot of changes in life, it's practicing what you preach and being a client yourself of your own work. And so for me, the mindset piece is absolutely massive. I can feel the difference if I'm neglecting my mindset, basically. I can see how that shows up in my work, how it shows up in my energy. And so consciously making sure that I prioritize that and I put my money where my mouth is and I am consistent with it, that's really important in terms of my integrity, my honesty, how I teach, and again, my own success and my own outcomes. So I'd say the biggest challenge, especially this year, has been becoming a mum of two and the adaptations that have had to be made to readjust everything from time management and consistency and how I show up and still time managing in a way that means I can prioritize my mindset because I know that's what brings the best out in me. And so if I want to show up as the best coach, as the best mum, as the best partner, all of those things, I have to prioritize that. And so, yeah, navigating those big changes in life this year, it's been really important to make sure that I prioritize that because I can see such a huge difference when I don't. And yeah, it's the foundation of my business, and so I love to live and breathe that.

Fran: 6:29

I love that as well, and it's it lends itself again to identity pieces, doesn't it? You know, and the shifts that we can have within our mindset. So you are mum, not just mum, that's okay. And it's okay if you are you consider yourself to be just mum, you know, just just isn't a bad word, is it? Um to have those tools and techniques where you can have that mind shift shift between how you want to show up is really important, isn't it?

Paige: 6:58

Absolutely, because you're right, we choose how we show up, and to know how we want to show up and what enables us to do that in a way that feels good, in a way that also brings us a lot of joy, that's really important.

Fran: 7:13

I like that word joy. Yeah, it's lovely. Um this bends itself into the next question that I've got for you, which is how do you maintain a work-life balance? And I think you've kind of answered some of that already. Are there any other kind of little practices or or habits that you like to include?

Paige: 7:33

One of the biggest things for me when it comes to a work-life balance is understanding where my time goes, because so often we can find ourselves saying, I'm too busy for that, or I don't have time for that, or everything feels chaotic. And so very often, if I feel myself shifting into that space where things are getting neglected, or I'm not quite getting the things done that I want to, I really have to sit down and go, right, where is my time going? And it sounds like such an odd thing to do, but it's really interesting when you identify that you're giving too much time for something, or you're almost prioritizing the wrong things without realizing. And so if you want to create more balance, it's identifying where those opportunities are in your time and almost reprioritizing a little bit because then subconsciously, you then know, okay, well, I've boxed that time out there and I've got that one thing done that I really wanted to do. And then you almost create a boundary to then go, right, it's time to go and be really present with my family, instead of going and spending time with your family, but your head is still in your business because you're not managing that time effectively. And so, again, just kind of compartmentalizing and going, right, I've got X amount of time now to go and do this, and then there's a hard boundary, and I can go and do what I want to do that's not business related, and vice versa. So, yeah, for me, having a work-life balance is really, really important, especially because that time with my children at the ages that they are, they want all of the attention and everything. So, yeah, it's really nice to know that I've given what I want to give to my business, and I can now go and give everything else to my family.

Fran: 9:18

Being intentional, isn't it? So it's it's okay. Like I give myself permission to do some social media scrolling is something that helps to decompress me, and just I get some regulation out of it. So I kind of I quite often just scroll with no particular attachment to anything, it's just something that helps me to decompress. So I I allow myself intentional time to do that, and then intentional time to show up elsewhere. One of the things that you've been helping me with is to prioritize something in my life that's important to me that I wasn't prioritizing. It was forever spinning around in my mind, and it was always present that I wanted to do it, and I wasn't putting that boundary in place to set that intentional boundary time to actually just get those ideas down onto paper and start actioning them rather than it just spinning around in my mind. That's what that can help with as well, isn't it?

Paige: 10:18

Absolutely, and again, we talk about boundaries and naturally they feel a little bit scary to people because they can feel quite harsh or quite again like a hard line. But actually, there's so many great things about boundaries where they open up opportunities for us to just again be really intentional and purposeful with what we're doing. They create space, they create time, and yeah, I think boundaries are really healthy and allow us to just be really focused on exactly what we're doing in those blocks of time.

Fran: 10:51

I never used to understand what they were, and I'm quite transparent within within my own learning. So it's you know, no secret to anybody in my audience or that listens to me that I was a carer, predominantly a carer for over 25 years. I retrained as a neurolinguistic programming coach, and until that point, I didn't even realise that we could have different mindsets. I didn't realise that there was a growth mindset, I didn't realise that we could have mindset shifts, and it's been a real revelation to me that I'm actually still exploring and then you entered my life, and it just feels like things are just in alignment for me now. Divine timing. Lovely. So what's next for you, Paige? And I realise that's a really open, big question, so just take it how you will.

Paige: 11:39

Yeah. So 2026 is really exciting because again, part of the work that I do is all around building that confidence, rewiring those fears, and doing the things you you never thought you could do. And so I always really like to practice that in myself in a in a complete variety of ways. So this year I did a triathlon and half marathon. So there's there's that side of doing things I never thought I could do. And then there's the being a guest speaker on a retreat day that again, amazing. A previous version of me never thought she would be able to do. And so, yeah, I'm really excited for 2026 because I think it's it's more opportunities to do new things. And again, it's kind of making it fun as well. It's it's new, so it's a little bit scary, but you know that feeling on the other side of it is just worth its weight in gold when you realize that you can do these things. And so, yeah, 2026 for me is about doing new things, things in my business that I haven't done before. And so one of those things is definitely going to be an in-person retreat day. So, again, all focused on mindset and kind of the vision of your business and really embodying the version of you. So I'm really excited to take what is a predominantly online business in person in 2026. So, yeah, I'm excited.

Fran: 13:08

I'm gonna take that as an exclusive as well. Yeah, completely, yeah. And that's a beautiful thing, isn't it? Because we both coaches, we're very different coaches, we've got very different styles and and a different kind of demographic that we're we're mainly serving. And that's okay. We can still support each other, we can still cheerlead each other, we can still learn and grow from each other or you know, pay into each other's businesses and stuff like that. And it works as well. So for anybody listening who's either interested, if you're interested in being a coach, speak to me. If you want already, and you know, you just want to go over those mindset tools and things like that, then Paige is your lady. And if you also just in the business space, so what whatever it is. So with you, Paige, is it product-based businesses, service-based businesses, or just general female entrepreneurs?

Paige: 14:03

Yeah, so it's very general. And again, at the moment, I have a a range. So I have coaches in my program at the moment. I also have business owners that are product-based, even authors. So it's a it's a real range because I think again, that kind of that confidence, that mindset, that believing you can achieve and that you can grow and removing the blocks to do to doing that is across all, it's across every single one of us, whether we're business owners or not. But yes, if you're wanting to grow your business or again a product range and just want to move from that lack mindset into that launch and growth mindset, then I can definitely support you in that.

Fran: 14:48

Yeah, and that's where we blend beautifully together. Because I like to position myself right at the beginning. You know, if you've got even just a spark of an idea, then that's where I come in. Because I really love that beginning part of just putting some foundations down and some putting putting some roots down. Yeah. You're there with all the the mindset tools and everything to get somebody moving forward, you know, and get them planning and things like that. So lovely.

Paige: 15:16

Yes.

Fran: 15:17

Thank you for your your insights and your guidance as well. Which is lovely. So for those of you interested in learning more about Paige, you can find her on a beautiful Instagram, which is page Spaven. Page Spaven. So it's P-A-I-G-E, and then with the Instagram, it's underscore, and then Spaven is S-P A-V-E-N. You can find the page on Instagram, and it's absolutely beautiful. And I like looking at your Instagram. I just feel it's lovely. We're like mine kind of it's it's how I like it, you know, that I can work on it a bit more. And I tend to approach social media like I kind of show up consistently and then I'll disappear for a while, you know. That's just kind of my rhythm. And it's it sometimes it ends up being a culmination of all those things in my head, and I just go bah onto social media. And yours is just absolutely stunning, it's just absolutely beautiful to see. But it's full of really uh lovely uh content as well that's thought-provoking because you're you're a very gentle coach, and it's it's thought-provoking that can then you can explore that as deeply as you want to. It's almost like you give the permission that you can explore, and then you know, people can take that deeper if they want to. And that's what I love about it. So it's it's it's very gentle, but it's got a lot of meaning there. Thank you.

Paige: 16:46

It is, it's it's a space where everybody's at different points, and some, like you say, are the real kind of hard-hitting go-getter, let's take the immediate action. And then others are still in that space of I know something's keeping me stuck, but I don't know what. And yeah, it's it's it's putting the words out there that allow it to to sink in, but also reflect on it a little bit because it always everybody perceives and interprets things differently, don't they? And so it's it's kind of just opening that door and then allowing it to resonate in the way that feels right for that person.

Fran: 17:22

Yeah, which is what I love as well, because we've all got our own versions of reality and our own filters within our mind and you know, all the things. Um, one of the things I like doing is just being that you can do it too. Like you can follow my journey of something's not working, or you know, all the times I trip up, and you just come along as well, because if it's possible for me, it's possible for you. Absolutely, and that's so inspiring. Yeah, that's that's what I like. I like that. I I just like us knowing as people that we've got possibilities. Yes, we're allowed to explore things.

Paige: 18:00

Absolutely, and those possibilities are endless.

Fran: 18:04

And as women, and again, this you know, in my audience it's is any any gender, so you know, take that as you will as well. So, but with w women, you can take on your own kind of labels as such, of you're a teacher or you're this or you're that, and we're with so much more.

Paige: 18:21

Oh, absolutely, and labels are a dangerous thing because they almost unintentionally limit us to what we think we can do. And actually, there is no ceiling on what we can do. The only limits we put in place are the ones we put in place ourselves, and that does come a lot from labels, and like like you say, it's whether you're a mum, whether you're a project manager, for example, whatever it is, it's you can identify with that, but not allow it to become your identity to the point that it then limits you in other areas that you want to explore.

Fran: 18:58

Yes, so self-identifying or you know, business labels or whatever of useful. And if they're limiting, yes.

Paige: 19:09

Yeah, and this is it, and part of growth is evolving. It's having multiple different identities and parts of us at different times that we resonate with, and then we might shed and release and evolve into a new identity. And yeah, growth requires different versions of us, and so yeah, it's it's definitely being careful with how we allow what we make those labels mean about us.

Fran: 19:32

Yeah, and allowing room for that growth as well. So, you know, my children are all adults now. So at one time I heavily identified with with being mum, it was all I heard for a long time until they were teenagers and then they wanted to call me by my name.

Paige: 19:47

And it changed.

Fran: 19:49

But you know, we open flow with life, don't we? Yes. Right. So you can find page on Instagram and also on Stan Store. Yes and Stan Store, I think it's all one word. Isn't it? And you're on there as under your name as Paige Stavan. Yes. We discussed how to pronounce it, didn't we? And like I'm switching there. Um and on the on the stand store, there is a link on your Instagram where people can find that. And you can also find the Mindset Make Over Academy, which is I've I've taken part in that. I don't know whether I've done it, taken part in it, or um absorbed it. I'm not I'm not sure. I think all of that.

Paige: 20:32

Yeah.

Fran: 20:33

And it's a lovely, lovely thing that you've created. Thank you.

Paige: 20:37

Yeah, it's it's definitely something I'm very proud of and something that I wish I had earlier on in my journey. And that's that's really where it was born. It was what did I feel like I need, and what were my biggest lessons and the biggest elements that I overcame in order to get me to where I am. And so being able to package that into something that can really help others progress is yeah, I'm really, really pleased with it. And yeah, and very pleased to have had you had you in there, Fran. It's been wonderful.

Fran: 21:08

That's a lovely example as as we learn and grow, we can hold our hand out to others and just help them along as well with the things that we create.

Paige: 21:15

Yeah.

Fran: 21:16

Which is a lovely thing. Absolutely. And I think you're right as well, because there can be a lot of regret involved, can't there, over, you know, if only I'd have known that then. Yeah. But potentially, speaking for myself, I wouldn't still wouldn't have been ready to receive it. That's very easy to look back with hindsight. However, we're on the path that we're on, and you know, we create these things that then can then can help others evolve as well.

Paige: 21:44

I couldn't agree more. It's it's so easy to sit there and say, I wish I'd known that, or I wish I'd done that earlier. But we simply have to trust the timing of our lives. And when certain things arrive, again, it's it's knowing that you are then ready for that. And if you weren't, it wouldn't have come into your life. And so there will always be a reason why we didn't know something earlier. And again, whether that is because you are the one to trail break trailblaze that and go and create it and share it with the world, or whether it's because you need to follow a certain process to learn other things on the way or to grow in a specific way in order to then do it. So for me, it's definitely a trust the timing of your life because when you get to that point, you do think, okay, this that had to happen that way, or I'm so pleased it worked out the way that it did. And I went through that experience, that challenge, that learning, because now I have this tool set, or now I'm in this place of my life. And yeah, it is funny how these things work out, and we can wish we knew it years ago, but I definitely think there's patience in the process, and there's a reason why we we all have to take a certain path to get to to where we're going.

Fran: 23:02

And again, a beautiful example of how Paige and I complement each other because I've got all the feels and not often the intentional wording over it, and you're just so beautiful and eloquent with your wording. Um certainly are. I've got to mention your book as well because you're an author and your book is Discovering Mum. Yes. And it's an honest memoir of motherhood, love and identity. And that again can be found via your Instagram, can't it, within your links on your Instagram?

Paige: 23:37

Yeah, so it's available on Amazon, and I only actually published the book this year, but I've been writing it or had been writing it for about four or five years, and it it was all about my identity as a mum and those labels, and how when I became a mum, especially going through the pandemic, it really stripped away everything else that I was until I was literally mum. And that was such a shock for me because I was a brand new mum, and I felt like I'd lost everything about who I was before. And so it's really about going on that journey of exploring who you want to be and stepping into that version of you because that label isn't all-defining. You get to choose who you are, you get to choose your identity, how you show up. And so, yeah, my book really talks about going on that journey of becoming a mum and then, yeah, almost losing that sense of who I was, and then the journey that I go on to rediscover who I am. And so that's why I called it discovering mum, because I was a mum discovering who I was alongside all of that, and I think it's giving yourself permission as well to, like you said earlier, Fran, being more than that one thing and not confining yourself to this label, because yes, being a mum is a wonderful thing, but you are allowed to be more, and there is no shame or guilt or embarrassment in wanting more for yourself than what you have currently. So, yeah, just give yourself permission to explore that and have fun with it.

Fran: 25:17

Yeah. And equally, if you for whatever reason either choose or you know, motherhood is is not for you, then we still have different kinds of labels that are that are limiting. Um and there are still things to explore within identity shifts and mindset shifts and things like that. Um I think it just it speaks to people in general, doesn't it, as well? Absolutely. Yeah. Right. So if you're interested in more content like this, which I know you are, um be sure be sure to visit www.melancholymentor.com and follow us for the latest updates. That's me, and the latest podcast goes on to there as well. And until next time, stay curious, keep igniting your creative potential, and go and find Paige. Lovely, thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. Ah, you're welcome, you're welcome. I was like, please, please come and be on my podcast. And you've arrived. Yeah, now you're here.

Paige: 26:23

Yeah.

Fran: 26:23

Oh, that was so fun, Franklin. Thank you for joining me on the Melancholy Coaching Podcast. I'd love you to subscribe for queries or to connect, email info at melancholymentor.com. Until next time, keep igniting your creative potential.