Rooted Within
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Rooted Within
From ‘I’m Not Intuitive’ to Master Intuitive: 3 Women Share Their Journey (part 2)
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Ever wondered if your persistent aches, recurring symptoms, or unexplained setbacks might actually be messages from your intuition? This week, I sit down with Ashley, Chelsea, and Katha, three master intuitives who share exactly how learning to trust their innate guidance changed not only their health, but their whole lives. What finally clicked after years of medical runarounds, identity struggles, and self-doubt? The answers they reveal are honest, practical, and surprisingly relatable (hint: it’s not about finding a magic cure, but about understanding your body and mind on a deeper, energetic level).
Topics Discussed:
- Why intuition was the missing piece in years-long medical mysteries and chronic symptoms
- How self-worth, boundaries, and “not being enough” secretly sabotage your health (and how to spot it)
- Real-life stories of using intuition for family decisions, parenting, relationships, and business confidence
- The mindset shifts and tools that helped set lifelong “victim” patterns—and autoimmune flare-ups—free
- What actually changes in your family and home when you start honoring your own intuition first
Whether you’re facing confusing symptoms, uncertain choices, or just want to break out of old patterns, this episode will spark new clarity and give you permission to put your intuition and well-being first. Hit play, and see why trusting your gut is about so much more than gut health.
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- Our free five-day Introduction to Intuition program: https://www.ourwholefamilyhealth.com/intuitionfree
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- Chelsea: https://www.instagram.com/true_north_intuition/
- Ashley: https://www.instagram.com/_sacred.compass_/
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Welcome back to the Rooted Within Podcast. My name is Maggie, founder and CEO of Whole Family Health. This is where ancient wisdom and modern science come together, a return to wholeness led by the wisdom that has always lived within you. Okay, you guys, welcome back to the Rooted Within Podcast. As we promised last week, we are diving into the second part of our conversation with our guests, Ashley, Chelsea, and Katha, who are our master intuitives that have just trained in all three levels that we offer here at Whole Family Health. They have trained their intuition from the very beginning basics to being master level intuitives, which is a huge accomplishment. And if you remember, last week we dove into a lot of really great conversation bits, like how they got started, what did they know about intuition before they joined the program and trained, some of their favorite intuition stories, which are always so incredible to hear, and a lot more. So if you have not yet had a chance to catch up on last week's episode, I recommend going back, tuning into that, and then coming back to this one so that you can follow along with the second half of our conversation. Okay, you guys, buckle up, enjoy this episode. We are so excited you are here listening to this real raw, candid conversation between all of us. Without further ado, here we go. So for the listeners that are listening, when you clock consciousness, there's certain spiritual concepts that you will learn. And let's say your body is a higher consciousness. If you try to go out and teach them and somebody is of lower consciousness, whether it's a sickness or disease or just where their soul is at within the journey, they will quite literally not understand your language. They will have the response of that's crazy, that doesn't make any sense to me. They will be very turned off, she's saying. So that has been a big win of just knowing that if she's talking about stuff and people aren't quite comprehending it, instead of taking it as an insecurity of self, it's going like, oh, no big deal. You know, she's able to clock, ooh, they're not understanding me, and I don't need to like go into this any further. Right. Yeah. I can see that being like a huge point for you in just kind of almost like figuring out which pathway to go within conversations.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it's nice to know, like when I'm talking to somebody and they're understanding. I was having a conversation with my parents, and I could see my dad was sitting and just kind of processing the information, not saying much. My mom was more involved in it. And then I got to a certain point where she just like clocked up, was like watching TV, and I was like, okay, she's not resonating with just the information anymore. We stopped and continued a conversation down another path, and it was fine. And I normally I would have been really frustrated, but I was like, She literally just doesn't get it.
SPEAKER_01And that's yeah, I was just gonna ask. So, like, past Ashley might have been like hurt by that, or like who she's not listening to me, you know, that's saying something about me. So cool to have that skill set then to be like, no, this literally has nothing to do with me. This is their journey.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So it's been really freeing to have that to kind of fall back on.
SPEAKER_01What would you say would be the coolest intuition story you have? I have one that I'm like, for you sticking out. But tell me what you feel like is the coolest experience you've had or the biggest win.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I think a big thing that's coming to mind is finding the property and really getting my husband on board with we don't need to keep outsourcing our decisions to everybody else. It's exactly what we've been looking for. And so that felt really good. It was a property that I had found. I literally was on Zillow and all the realtor places trying to find something. And this one had popped up, but it had been a price drop, and they actually combined two parcels together. So it was more than what we were looking for at a less price than what we wanted to pay. And so we had gone out and looked at it a couple times, and my husband was kind of hemming and hawing about it. And I was like, no, I just have a feeling like this is where we need to be.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this is it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I'm curious to know though, what your story is that's coming up.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna say your body analysis of like the different doctors. I don't know if you want to talk about it if that's too personal.
SPEAKER_02That was like a whole thing. Yeah. So I had part, I don't remember what that was for. It was a body symptom and rheumatoid. Rheumatoid, yeah. The rheumatoid arthritis. Yeah, but I don't remember what you had posted and I responded. Oh, it was for self-healing strengths.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And the body analysis that came with that. And I this was stemming back to that incident starting in 2019 where I had like swollen lymph nodes all over the place. I had like debilitating joint pain. I was having like all these body symptoms. I had gone to like a cardiologist, I had been to a rheumatoid doctor, I'd had like gallons of blood work drawn, and nothing was coming back. I had surgery to remove lymph nodes that ended up being contaminated, so I got nothing from that.
SPEAKER_01And didn't they tell you it was some like wacky diagnosis that you were literally like, no, it's it is yeah.
SPEAKER_02I went to a lymphedema specialist and they told me it was like some Japanese. And I was like, no, there's something more to it. And like Chelsea said, when Maggie sent me that recording of that body analysis, I have never felt more seen, more validated, more understood. And to finally have that like aha moment was life-changing to find out that it was aligned by my higher self, that I was gonna go through all of these obstacles, outsourcing, trying to depend on everybody else to give me the answers that I so deeply wanted, realizing that I had inside of me what I already needed, and just reclaiming my power. And it was all orchestrated all along that it was gonna lead me down this journey to training my intuition. And now that's why I feel like I'm so drawn to the healer aspect of it because I've encountered so many people since I started the program that have said, you know, I have these weird body symptoms, I've been to all these doctors, I'm like, I've done it.
SPEAKER_01Well, and what we pulled was like not something that was gonna ever be in your blood.
SPEAKER_02And so having that information, knowing that it's not something that defines me, but something I can work myself out of and rehearse that was something that I've never experienced in my life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And like you said, your higher self so orchestrated it because just you dealing with people that are like, I don't have a solution for this. I feel like this is my identity. Like you've had countless stories now of people coming to you, like you just said, and you're able to now have the real raw, authentic experience of being like, I've been there. I know how frustrating this is. You can actually feel into them because you've been there, which is a big component of helping.
SPEAKER_02Right. And I think that's a big part of like the intuitive program is really meeting somebody where they're at, making them feel validated and seen, having a customized, you know, answered response and not just the broad spectrum blanket, like, oh, well, go find whatever, make a blood sugar balanced meal. Like, what is that? What does my body need? Like, what is happening? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, and I think too, you guys have such a strong natural intuition that you guys already I say you guys, because you guys have all had body analysis done, but like you knew there was something deeper to the story. You know what I mean? Your heart and your soul was like, there is so much more to this that I'm finding out. And it was like a frustration of not one doctor is giving me the deeper meaning of this, and it's ticking me off. You know, it's like surface level stuff.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's getting back to the root cause and the emotional imbalance that led us down here, like realizing that it's not you're just a flawed human being and accepting that it's like this is the emotional imbalance that you're embodying. This is why it's happening, this is why all of your symptoms are aligning, and really putting all the puzzle pieces together to give you the bigger picture and not only that, but the way to course correct and fix the problem.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So, with that information, have you seen a decrease in your flare-ups? Or a production?
SPEAKER_02I think I've had two since I started the program. So in almost a year, I've only had two. And the last one I was able to get myself out of it much faster. So quick. Yeah. So with Maggie's body analysis, it was determined that I have rheumatoid arthritis, which in blood work, all my autoimmune markers were normal. And so when I had a flare-up in November, it took me out for about five days. And last one, I was only down about two and a half or three days, and it was not as debilitating. The first 24 hours was pretty rough, but once I was able to realize and clack where I was at and really start to work through it, the symptoms came down much quicker.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, your perspective shift was super speedy. Like you just even having that information and being like, okay, I know what's in my field, I gotta get this stuff out of it. You rocked it. It was quick. I mean, who really wants to be debilitated and so much pain?
SPEAKER_02But I'm saying once you get that information, figure out what it is, and then work yourself out of it is so incredible.
SPEAKER_01So empowering. Like it's something I will never shut up about. It is so cool. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Both of those are cool stories. I mean, yeah, amazing. Tell us what would be your cool story. You have one every day. Every day in the chat, you have one. You have so many cool ones.
SPEAKER_03I've had a lot of just fun things that have given me that reassurance because I'm somebody who really needs like, yes, tell me this is real. And there's just things that happen that you cannot deny. Walking into a restaurant that never has a table open and knowing that there's gonna be a table, that's so cool. Yeah, I love working with the girls in our group. Yeah, and when someone comes with a question and doing practicing reads, I love when you put something out there, not sure how it's going to hit when they come back. And I think uh one really fun one, Katha and I were talking last week. I said, Katha, there's something with food, you need to eat more. She goes, Oh my gosh, I haven't been eating before. We go to swim lessons. I understand where that's coming from and those kind of things. I mean, this is someone across the world. I don't yeah, when you hear that I don't know, you can look into that. It's just so amazing.
SPEAKER_01It is, yeah. Yeah, especially when you don't know them, right? They're like not a good friend, they're somebody that you've barely known, and you're pulling all these details about their kids, and they have like the craziest response back of just light bulb moments. It's so cool. Yeah. You've had really what was the little things. What was the one with your property? Wasn't there one with the property you guys just got too?
SPEAKER_03When we were working in class, you gave us the homework work on an ingredient in mine was I want to get good luck. I really nailed those ingredients. I really worked with them. And a few days later, we got the news that somebody was gifting us an old cider. Like gifting, like just gifting, like weird things in the background. It's a little more complicated, but things were working out so smoothly that you cannot deny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you could not, seriously. That is so cool. Yeah, I love that. I love all the stories that you guys have had and continue to bring to the table. And it's so cool to see, like I said, you guys starting out with no knowledge and then being able to pull ingredients to make the matter in reality literally move and shift the cells in your body. Like, oh my gosh, there is no cooler thing to be able to witness. All right. What do you guys feel like talking about patterns and subconscious thought processes, neural pathways? What was your biggest one that you felt like you were able to see for the first time and go, oh my gosh, that has been running my entire life? Like, is there a limiting belief that you were just like, oh my gosh, this is something that I've had since I was a child, or this is something that has been woven into a lot of situations and circumstances that you feel like intuition has been able to kind of shed a light on and help you begin to work through? Katha, do you think that you could think of one? So, what was the biggest subconscious pattern that you feel like you were unconsciously running before finding like whole family health or intuition? And you feel like being a part of intuition kind of shed a spotlight on something that was creating your reality?
SPEAKER_00For me, it was definitely the thing that I have always been in a victim state, like always thinking everything is happening to me, like my sisters are like better at things, I'm wearing glasses, they don't have glasses, I'm having that hair, like always seeing the bad stuff I am having, like or what's happening to me, and always thinking I can't do anything about it. So, like not owning my power, and that's my learning lesson for this lifetime to step into my power and see that I am creating my own reality, it's I am doing this, and of course, at the beginning, it can be really, really hard to know that I am the creator of all these things, but when you go deeper and see that you can change anything in your life, that's so so powerful. Absolutely. And I'm still working on that, that's also tied to my topic dermatitis, because I just see like I did this for like over the years, so this neural pathway is just so so thick, yeah. But I see that I'm so so much bad now, and that I'm starting to own my power and like getting back on track to see like how I am powerful and I can handle any circumstance.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. So, before you joined Intuition, do you think you would have said about yourself, oh, I'm often in a victim state? Like, were you conscious of that at all? Totally, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it was more like I was conscious about it before intuition, but to have the tools and like figuring out maybe the tie of where it's happening in my life and how it's consciously creating. Do you think that was a bigger point?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and also like really knowing that I am the creator of my life, yeah, like really knowing that I can shift anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Uh so, so, so, so, so powerful. And I love too that you have that connection towards the dermatitis, which is such a big part of your life. And you've had it since you were a little girl, right? Yeah, since I'm five months old. Yeah. So, like that in itself, I think talking about having questions before intuition of why I am the way I am, or why is my life this way, or why did I get stuck, having a learning disability or whatever, having an answer to that, I think is just everything because it's been questions you've been seeking answers to for all your life, you know, and to be able to be gifted that answer, I think is so valuable.
SPEAKER_00Also getting you can change it. Yeah, that's also great. Like not only knowing, but also like really having tools you can use every day to change it and see how it changes. Right. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so incredible. Yeah, absolutely. Ash, what would you say yours is?
SPEAKER_02Mine would be I am enough. That's been a thing that I've been clinging to for like the last eight years since I really got into the spirituality world and just that mentality of like I'm not ever gonna be enough for anybody, and then having the trained intuition now leaning into like I am enough, I'm more than enough, and I have the ability to help myself and also those around me, and the struggles and things that I've gone through in my life are a stepping stone into being able to move on in this journey, in this career line, and making an impact in those lives around me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's been so, so beautiful to see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So just reclaiming my power and realizing that I am enough. I have what it takes, and nobody else can tell me otherwise.
SPEAKER_01And like the self-love piece you were describing this morning in the QA, too, I think is directly tied to that. Like, what was the percentages? You know your numbers so well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was 13% for self-love going into the program, and not even a year later, graduated from level three at an 84%.
SPEAKER_01Which is insane. Like, so insane. And it's so evident in your thought process and the way that you're speaking about yourself and the things you're going through, like you just said with your weekend snowmobiling, right? Just was it snowmobiling? There you were a book and you were able something that used to make you feel guilty or make you feel like you weren't being a good mom or fun or what have you. You were able to put yourself first and be like, no, it's totally fine. I'm gonna check out now, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So just realizing when I'm burnt out and need to tap out for a little bit and recharge, it's totally okay. And I need to give myself that permission, and I don't really need to explain it to anybody else. And that's another thing is I've gone from like over-explaining to I'm not doing it. And it doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. Totally. It's not something I feel aligned with and I'm not doing it. Yeah. So, you know, just giving myself the validation that what I say it goes and I don't need to bend and flex for anybody else.
SPEAKER_01So, with this, a question coming to mind is can, and we gotta get to Chelsea. I guess Ashley Spurs, a lot of questions here from me. Would you say that your spouses or people really close to you can sense this difference in you? Like, is your husband going, Holy crap, Ash? Like you are just like authentically being you. Are they able to see the difference in the last year?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, my husband says all the time, like, you've done a really good job this year, like keeping things at bay, like not having the autoimmune flare-ups and you know, things that would have bothered me before. And I'm like, no, I'm not doing it, or you know, making a decision and sticking to it is something that I would have not done in the past. So others around me do notice. And my mom was a big one for when I said no, it was, oh, well, you could just do this or you could just do that, like trying to manipulate my answer. And now she doesn't come back at me at all. When I say no, it means no, and the end of the story, which is totally really nice because it is annoying when people just nag at you, waiting for you to give in.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Yeah, that's a powerful thing.
SPEAKER_02So they actually respect your boundaries and your answers. And when you feel confident in that, there's no challenging it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, seriously, that's such a special ingredient to have in your field because it's like what I say I mean. You know, it's like if you didn't have that ingredient in your field, that's how you get people that are continuing to question you because you're questioning yourself and they're continuing to try to sway your answers because you're trying to sway your answers. It's like that is such a powerful ingredient to have that can spread out to all your interactions, and it just means like no means no, you know what I mean? Like, I say what I mean, I have my energy behind my words coming out of my mouth, and that I mean, bleeds into business, it bleeds into finance, you know, money coming in, all this stuff. That's a powerful, powerful ingredient. Yeah. Tell us what would you say, girlfriend?
SPEAKER_03For me, it was being hard on myself, and that I have realized that that's something that I'm going to continue working on. It's not something that I just magically solve. But having the awareness and being able to see where I'm doing it has been so huge. Realizing that it has, I think you intuited for me at the very beginning, uh, this was like a 21-year pattern that I've had. Not allowing myself to be or have fun and to be youthful and to play was so huge for me. I feel like I've constantly been second guessing myself, uh, being hard on myself, or putting rules on myself that I didn't need to have, and letting that go. My husband is dancing outside the window.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, Mick! She's called him Nicholas. Is his real name Nicholas? I have a pattern of doing that. It's real creepy when you don't know people that just whip out their real name. Love it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, see that. That would have really thrown me. And being able to just be lighthearted and go with the flow so much more to prioritize myself, do things just for me because I like to do it and have fun, follow things that I'm interested in. That has been the biggest life switch for me. Yeah. And it started with taking the leap to do this program, knowing that this felt interesting to me, I want to know more about it. That was something that had been turned off in me for so long since becoming a mom. Everything was about taking care of kids and taking care of a family. And to be able to start seeing the ways that that has shifted in my life in all areas of life has been really fun. And the more I prioritize myself, I see that in others around me. I see that with my husband. You know, going out of his way to help me with things because I'm helping myself with things, and that's really fun to see the ripple effect all the way throughout your life.
SPEAKER_01Totally. So would you say dancing Nick would say that you've been different this last year? For sure.
SPEAKER_03It's funny how he's always been so sweet, but like the compliments and like the affection have just ramped up so much. And you can tell it's because you feel that way about yourself. Yeah. The better you feel about yourself, the more that you're seeing that in your kids and your parents and your spouse. You just feel so loved and so comforted. I have friends, friendships that are so strong, and I feel so supported and lifted up. And I know that that stemmed with doing that for myself.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It is really cool to see energy move like that and be in that awareness of like, oh, this, this, this, you know, I love that. It's such a cool testament of you create your reality, you know, like it's literally you and the energy moving. And when you see it everywhere in your life like that, and you then have the intuition to clock, like, oh, this is so strong in my field. It's a cool, not guess and check, but like effect, cause and effect, you know, that you can see firsthand in your life. Katha, would you say that your husband feels like you have changed over the year?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, totally. It's so interesting. He's so impressed by it, although he doesn't really get it, what I'm doing. But it's so sweet when he sometimes says, like, ask your intuition. What is intuition saying? Like when I sometimes forget it. And that's so, so sweet because I know he is trusting my intuition so much too. And that's what you're saying. Like, he's my inner voice, like inside out voice. He's like totally reflecting what I am thinking. So it's so great to see that he's trusting, so I am trusting too.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes. And does he like ask you questions about like to use your intuition for him yet?
SPEAKER_00Sometimes, yeah. But I use it more for myself and my daughter.
SPEAKER_01It is really funny if you have skeptical husbands to have them years later just come groveling back and be like, Can you intuitively test this? Can you do this for me? Can you? And it's like, uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh. I got you. So funny.
SPEAKER_03For me, I didn't come out with it right away. I feel really solid in it for myself. Totally. And once I finally opened up to Nick, my husband, I was so nervous, like, what is he gonna think? And he has been so on board. Has he? I mean, every day, ask your intuition this, ask your intuition this. I mean, down to his fishing spots and and what? Oh my god, that's hilarious. So that has been really funny to like, I don't know, the more you open up yourself, the more you feel so seen, and it surprises you when people meet you where you're at, and you just have deeper connections and deeper relationships.
SPEAKER_01100%. And I will always say that anybody that is skeptical, whether they're consciously aware of it or not, they're constantly taking pieces of data and stashing it away in their brain and going, Oh, she was right about this, she was right about that. So even if they don't outrightly be like, of course I think intuition is real, they'll become a time where they do that on the external because they've gathered up enough pieces of evidence that they're fully on board, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, oh, I love that for Nick. Have you done your smelt fishing? That's what I asked her before the call.
SPEAKER_03You know why I intuited he who drew a map and he's like, Where should I go smelt fishing? I've got him on the honey hole. Oh my god, and then he was like, I'm paying attention. Now he asked me everything.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, I love that.
SPEAKER_02That's so funny.
SPEAKER_01That is so funny. That was quite a few intuitive hits you had, like in a row. Oh my gosh, that cracks me up. Oh, I love that. Okay, so with this being done, with you guys kind of graduating from level three, tell us like your niche. Like, who are you most excited to work for? What do you feel like is your biggest area that lights you up? What I love about intuition is that there are so many different forms. There's so many different avenues, like there's hundreds of different ways you can use intuition. Is there a specific way or vein or niche that you guys feel you're gravitating towards now that you have such high levels of mastery?
SPEAKER_00What do you think, so as I told you in the beginning, when I started with intuition, that was your post about connection. So I'm totally into that niche to go deeper because I'm just seeing with my daughter how powerful it is to see that everything your child is like telling you, it's just something you can step into your power and be yourself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, maybe let's try to see if we can do Ash.
SPEAKER_02Okay, what's my niche? So I don't know. I have really been drawn to the PTSD mental health, growing up in the medical field and realizing the lack of support and the emotional debriefings when they go through traumatic events has really sparked me to want to make an impact in that community specifically. Absolutely. Yeah, and I also am drawn to the healer program because having body symptoms that I haven't been able to get answers to in the medical world through Western medicine and now having a trained intuition, knowing that I can make a huge impact in the lives around me through a healer program would be where I would want to go.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And I think you're like top notch with energy work too. It's a definite absolutely. And we'll make sure to tag everybody's social media and ways that you can find them too in the show notes because they have really incredible businesses and very specific niches as well. Chelsea, what would you say yours is that you'd like to kind of where do you find yourself navigating right now?
SPEAKER_03I love helping people reconnect to the language of their body. I love giving other people that relief that I felt the first time. You nailed one of my health questions. Reconnecting with body symptoms, especially moms with confidence, like that confidence and that connection to their own body is so huge to me. I know where I was a year ago, and I want to find the other Chelsea that are out there. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You know, somebody's in your corner and can give you that individualized support and guidance that they're looking for.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love that. The individualized that's so you too. You guys are gonna just help so many people. So, okay, one last question, we'll wrap it up. This is forever. We're having the giggles over here. We cannot keep it together. What would you say to somebody that was like on the fence that were like, I don't know if I have intuition or I don't know if this is the right thing? Like, what would you say if they were kind of like one foot in, one foot out? Like, would you have any recommendations for them or words of wisdom since you guys have been through the full intuition programs? Ash, maybe you can begin since we dropped one.
SPEAKER_02I have actually had this opportunity with some of the girls in the school community who have joined that were kind of on the fence about going back and forth about joining the program. And for me, it was like a full body yes. And when I first had reached out to Maggie about this program, I was like, tell me that I'm a high match for this program. Because when you were vetting through all the people and making sure that people were matched and high fits or high energy matches, I was like, please tell me it's me. Please tell me it's me because I just felt so drawn to it. So I feel like if you're listening, you're drawn to this for some reason and just really following the energy, I feel like is a saying that's followed me through the programs. You need t-shirts made. That's on you, girl. Vital. And so I feel like if you are drawn to this program at all, the transformation that you'll see when you complete the programs is something that you will never ever regret.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's so good. So so good. Just knowing that you can't fail. It's like it's not something that is going to be another bust. It's a tool that you'll whether you go on to level two, level three, absolutely just stay with level one is a tool that will help you so much, even at the basic level, just to know yourself better. Who wouldn't want that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. And I think just how many times we use intuition a day, too. You know, it's crazy to have the micro level choices align with your true self-choices and to be able to experience where the fluff is in your life. And just with, like you said, simple yes and no questions, like you can get so much out of that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I feel like it's a lot like a degree you go to college to learn something or a skill set, but this is something I I mean, I have a couple college degrees that I don't use, but this is invested in that is more transformational than any college degree I could ever have.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, such a good point. Yeah, and investing in self and the ways that you can use this, right? In all the areas of life. Like it's infinite the ways you can use intuition. Yeah. Absolutely. Katha, this is our last question. If somebody was on the fence and they were like half in, half out, what would you say for recommendation about taking inner wisdom?
SPEAKER_00First of all, I think it's okay when you're an assistant because then it's supposed to be like it. And it's okay to be critical. That's always very good to like go deeper and see to really like question everything. That's okay. It's really good to have that, but I also I just actually have no words for that transformation I have gone through since May, and it's so funny because I have a daughter who's almost two now, and like during the last two years, I'm at home and I'm like not really earning any money, and we have like the less money in comparison to the years before. But I have spent like at least ten thousand dollars for myself, and I know that was the best decision, and that money just came because it was supposed to be, and sometimes it's very good to like step over that fear and just do it.
SPEAKER_03I remember in one of the first, it might have been the first class, maybe second class, Maggie saying, Katha, you're just along for the ride, you're just here to like see. I do remember that, and then look at how I look up to Katha so much more than that. We all do, yeah. You have just blossomed and transformed and become so powerful. You are not along for the ride.
SPEAKER_01This you're I agree. I mean, all of you guys, I feel like Chelsea, you like had no intention of having a business. Like, none of you guys, I feel like, went into it. Ashley, do you feel like you did with the business?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I feel like I went into it with the mindset of wanting to have a business, but at the same point, I've had so many businesses that I've tried getting off the ground and it's gone nowhere. So learning the ingredients and embodying different things and how the electromagnetic field works and the law of attraction and all that stuff has set me up for creating a successful business this time around. Absolutely. But yeah, I definitely went into it with the mindset of I want to make a business out of this because I knew how transformational and how pivotal it was for me to finally have answers.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's almost like how could you not want to provide somebody else with that feeling? That's how I felt. Like, how could I not share this gift with the world? It almost feels mean, you know.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I'm doing the world a disservice by not serving and giving back in that way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, and it's like talking about journeys, like it was destined in all of your journeys, you know, but it was just seeing that in yourself and being able to open up to that idea of maybe this is my sole purpose. Maybe I do have a spiritual gift, maybe, you know, all of those different thoughts. I think has been really fun to watch you guys expand and like blossom in those thoughts and sense of self and confidence as you guys went through the different months, you know. Well, thank you girls so much for popping on. We appreciate you. And we will also be inside the school community if anybody has questions. I'm sure you girls would be more than willing to answer questions. And I think it's just really cool to hear where you guys started and like the full transformation. So thank you guys for being so vulnerable and letting us in on your world. All right, that was our full conversation. Wasn't that incredible? Like the hearts of these girls, the authenticity, the genuineness, like I cannot. They are the sweetest. And if you are inside of our community, you have heard from them, you have seen them, you have spoken with them, and they truly are the best. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode, just getting to hear from other people inside our community, hearing their thoughts, hearing their experiences. We all know how incredible it is to have our mirror neurons latch on to other people and hear their story and see where life has taken them. So I hope that you guys have enjoyed this week's and last week's episode. And let us know if you need any further support as you are diving into this material. We also have a five-day introduction to intuition program where you can go and do a type of challenge where I really break down what is intuition, and I even give you your first form of intuition. So if you've been on the fence or you've been super excited about intuition and kind of learning a little bit more about it, we do have a free five-day challenge where you can get in, you can learn your first form of intuition, you can kind of get the basics, and it is completely free and so much fun. That is linked up in the show notes for you, and we will make sure that we get you guys the support that you guys are needing, that your higher selves are just orchestrating for you to gather all these different bits of information and details. So we will see you next week for another riveting episode. I hope you guys are having a wonderful day.