Cubicle Confessions
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Cubicle Confessions
Confessions from the Route
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In this episode of Confessions from the Route, House and Josie are joined by a very "on-time" special guest, Miss Special Delivery. From wild mailbox moments to the unspoken rules of route life, nothing is off-limits.
Expect hilarious stories, a few "you can't make this up" encounters, and a behind the scenes look at what really goes down between the post office and your front door. Miss Special Delivery brings her own bag of stories - from awkward customer interactions to the chaos of working the day to day....and let's just say...some packages come with extra baggage.
Whether you're a fellow carrier or just someone who's ever wondered what your mail sees before it gets to you, this episode delivers laughs, relatability and a little bit of truth stamped first-class.
Enjoy listening to Confessions from the Route where the drama is always certified.
Hi Josie. Hi, Hal. Welcome to Cubicle Conception.
SPEAKER_04Everybody got down. Everybody got back. Everybody got down. Everybody got down. Everybody got down.
SPEAKER_02Now, most of us have had that moment. You hear the mail truck, you peek out the window, and suddenly it's like, why am I hiding from the mail carrier like I owe them money? But have you ever stopped and thought, what does their day actually look like? Today's episode is all about life beyond the cubicle because our guest didn't just sit at a desk. She walked miles, battled the elements, dodged dogs, and probably knows more neighborhood secrets than anyone should. We're sitting down with a former mail carrier to talk about the weird, the wild, and the surprisingly wholesome moments from life on the route.
SPEAKER_12So grab your stamps, QBs, and let's survive biblical life together. Yay! So today is episode one, season two.
SPEAKER_07We made it sessions. We made it to season two.
SPEAKER_12Love it. And today we have a surprise guest. This is gonna be epic.
SPEAKER_02So excited. Our first guest. I know talking about the post office. There's so many mysteries about the post office and postal workers and what they deal with. And I have a lot of questions that I need to I need information.
SPEAKER_12I think people think they know what a postal worker does, but I don't think we truly know what they deal with on a daily basis.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it looks like a tough job. I mean, I think about the days when it's like today where it's freezing and snowing and just miserable. And you know, are you out walking or are you in one of those trucks that just casually rolls up to each mailbox and you just roll the mail right in the box?
SPEAKER_12Right. And you just I'd want that one. I'd want that job.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like our mail truck, it's like a van, and they like pull up and throw the mail in, but sometimes they're kind enough to walk it into the garage, which is so nice. He didn't have to do that.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I don't I don't know our male person. I don't know, he's a stranger to me.
SPEAKER_02We used to have a male guy, his name was Bill, and he had he looked like Jerry Garcia from The Grateful Dead, and he was so nice, and he'd come up and chit-chat, and he was just so cool. I loved him, but he's he got a new route somewhere else. And then there was the mail carrier that we used to have when we worked together. Love those guys, they were so nice. I like the FedEx guy. That was the only one I liked. Because he looked like a model. He was of course you liked him. You we both, when he came in, we were like like two little giggling schoolgirls, like, oh like, oh have a good day. Oh god. And he was like this muscular tan. Why was he tan?
SPEAKER_09It was like middle of winter.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, this guy's tan. He's very much the tightest shirt. I think it was like a woman's shirt. I was gonna say it was like wearing our size. It was so small and tight, and he just would walk in. And why where's your jacket? Why don't you got a jacket? January. I didn't care.
SPEAKER_07He knew what he was doing. He knew. He was like, oh, here I come with my muscles.
SPEAKER_12It's not like he gets any tips.
SPEAKER_07No.
SPEAKER_02Do you think he was on the prowl? Um, you know, he might have been. He might have been. We came to the wrong place because we were we were not interested. No. No. You can look, but you can't touch. Yeah, that guy was he was very nice. Yeah, I like the old postal workers though.
SPEAKER_12You know, I give a lot of credit to postal workers because I I never really had to deal face to face a lot of times with customers. But they have no choice. They deal face-to-face all the time when they're delivering the mail.
SPEAKER_02Really? Wouldn't they just kind of throw the mail in the box and run?
SPEAKER_08Run.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's how most people that's how we would do it. No one wants to actually talk to the people in the houses. They just want to get that mail in that box and move on to the next one.
SPEAKER_12What if there's some psychotic customer though that knows like exactly when the postal person shows up and then they make sure that they're there?
SPEAKER_02I'm sure there are.
SPEAKER_10You got mail.
SPEAKER_12It's happening. This is happening. Our first guest. Are we ready? Ready. All right. I'd like to introduce everybody to Miss Special Delivery.
SPEAKER_02Welcome. Yep. You know, talk about whatever you want. Spill the tea. Yeah. We're we really don't have any boundaries.
SPEAKER_12Talk about your your day. Well, you've you've listened to us, right? You're a fellow QB. You're QB? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's so exciting. Yay! Well, this episode is confessions from the route. We have some questions.
SPEAKER_12You can you can go first. Your questions are always better.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, no, I don't think so. Are they? I don't I don't know. I just got a little sweaty. Sorry, I'm a little nervous. It's usually just us, and we just shoot the breeze, and yeah, just you know. So, Miss Special Delivery, you worked for the United States Post Office. Is that correct? Correct, correct. And how long did you work there for?
SPEAKER_11I worked there for about a year.
SPEAKER_12Hmm. So you kind of knew the ins and outs because you were there for a while.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure you got some stories, some good and bad. Um and so you were a carrier, is that correct?
SPEAKER_08Yes.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha, gotcha. Um, and your route, was it so I don't know, I've seen different routes. You know, you'll see people walking and delivering mail, you'll see them in the truck, they'll pull up and just throw that mail in the box. Like, what was yours like?
SPEAKER_11So I uh was at the bottom of the barrel and I was also at a retirement place. Oh the retirement people like are starting to finish. There was a lot of like driving routes, but me being the youngest and able to use my legs. I was the only one walking.
SPEAKER_08I was like how you said that to be able to use my legs.
SPEAKER_09That was that was that. So that's one way to get your steps in every day.
SPEAKER_12Did you did you buy yourself did you buy yourself like one of those watches so you can count your steps?
SPEAKER_11I would just take my phone and on like my phone there's like this health app and it would generate like how many steps I would take a day, and it was like over 30,000 steps.
SPEAKER_09Oh in a day? In a day that's sucks, that's a lot. I try to reach 6,000 sometimes.
SPEAKER_02That's like a you must have been so tired. So that's a long day. So so after the 30,000 steps, like how many hours did you work? Like how many hours are you on your feet? Like eight hours, probably. A full eight hours.
SPEAKER_11Oh, like 8 a.m. to sometimes I would punch out at like 8 30 p.m.
SPEAKER_02They paid overtime, right?
unknownOh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Good really nice. Good, good.
SPEAKER_12That's I feel like for Chrissy for like complaining for working eight hours sitting at a cubicle. I know. I know.
SPEAKER_02She's walking. You were just like rave in the storm.
SPEAKER_11Oh your feet would be wet or like it'd just be freezing. Like it was definitely a form of torture.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. That's terrible. And and you know, and Buffalo, we uh we only get like maybe ten nice days a year. I mean, it's just the winters never fucking end. It's so cold and wet and gross, especially right now. You're probably so happy you're not doing that right now in this longest winter, the coldest.
SPEAKER_11Especially because there was no heat in the vehicles either, unless like the the the box little there's no heat in those vehicles? So heat. And if there was heat, it was like this little tube and it was like cold.
SPEAKER_08Whoa, whoa, whoa, what wait tube?
SPEAKER_02I wait, what's the O face on house was amazing. I just like literally just shit my pants during this. Like, what the f how do they not it it I don't even know how you'd survive this winter? I mean, it was like in the negatives for weeks. And you're in a truck with no heat. It wasn't in that experience. Thank God. Well, I'm glad you got the fuck out of there. I mean, I what if you tell me no heat, no warmth, I'd be like, bye. That is crazy. Yeah, I definitely would be uh fuck that.
SPEAKER_11So I'm like, oh, might as well just pee my pants.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_02It's awful. And you're just you're just downing water all day so you can continuously pee. It just reminds me of Dum and Dummer where he's like, I gotta pee, and he's like, just go, man.
SPEAKER_11I would do that, and then I would be so embarrassed because I would have like a wet butt and then I'd sit in the snow to try to like die. Like, oh, I fell or something.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. That's a rough horrible. So I feel like I would like see someone outside and be like, hey, can I just like use your bathroom?
SPEAKER_12Remember our ours used to do it all the time. She did come in. Yeah, they would have the female we had. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02She used to come in. She's like, Can I use your bathroom? We're like, oh, yeah. He would uh, you know, they were they were they literally like became our friends because we saw them all the time for years, and you know, can I use your bathroom? I give them a coffee and tea and water, and right.
SPEAKER_11We give them Christmas presents and there was a lot of people like that, like in the summer where they'd give you like Gatorade stuff like that.
SPEAKER_07Oh, that's so nice. That's really nice.
SPEAKER_02Come on in, you could you shouldn't have Oh my god. Oh god. Speaking of creepy men on your route, have you ever felt the need to carry like mace or a weapon? Like, were you ever in a situation where you're like, you know, I should have some kind of protection or a way to defend myself?
SPEAKER_11We actually have we are supposed to carry dog mace. So I would have that all the time on me. But I feel like no, in a sense. Like I wasn't ever like I would say, like, afraid or anything like that. If anything, I was just cringed out and I had a notes in my um notes app of just all the whack ass shit everybody would say to me.
SPEAKER_12Oh my gosh, can can you please share? I was just gonna say, do you still have them with you? Okay, let's see. Let's see if I can Oh, she's physically gonna share the screen with us.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_11Okay. The title was The Most Disgusting Pickup Lines Maril Carrier Edition.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. I never really thought about like getting hit on.
SPEAKER_09Like that's fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_11What's crazy too is I actually put the addresses on all of these.
SPEAKER_09So that you remembered when you delivered it. Oh, they were really smart. Which ones were the most disgusting? That's really smart.
SPEAKER_11Oh, I have one. Here comes the sexiest mail carrier ever. Can I take a picture of your legs?
SPEAKER_08Oh.
SPEAKER_11Um, this one's funny. What's your name? Special delivery? And they say, okay, you could leave now.
SPEAKER_06It's a good one. Yeah, it's a good one.
SPEAKER_11Then there was this one, and the carrier that I was subbing in for had Virco Spain. So in the summer, like when she was wearing shorts and whatnot, that put this kind of place into context. So it goes, we went from raggedy legs to sexy legs.
SPEAKER_07That hurts. That hurts.
SPEAKER_11Oh my deliver bell proceeds to walk away, says, Hey there, haven't seen you. I go, I was off yesterday. Grabs me and pulls me close to feel my tattoo and look at it and says, I don't know, you were a bad girl.
SPEAKER_12Oh my god, please tell me I did you punch him? Did you want me to fucking punch? I would have that's where that mace comes in handy. Right?
SPEAKER_11Seriously. I was like That's creepy.
SPEAKER_12Oh, yeah, that's horrible.
SPEAKER_11Now now when the bunch like, hey there, pretty lady, you're pretty happy a closer lady. How's my favorite CRT? And we are CCAs.
SPEAKER_08Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_11Now that service right there, baby. Actually, really funny. So I had a certified letter and that needs to be signed. So I'm waiting there for this person to open the door, and she opens the door and she's like, What is this? Because the certified uh sticker was over the sender. And I'm like, You just have to sign it and then you can open it. And she proceeds to peel off the sticker and it says like the casino, and she goes, Yeah, I know I banned myself from the casino. I forgot.
SPEAKER_02Oh, she panders. Oh man. Well, they sh people should be banned. I was at the casino working like a month ago, and this woman, it was like seven o'clock at night, and she's like, I've been here since six in the morning, and she was like, she was like drunk and like she's said she lost like $10,000 and she's trying to make it back. And I'm like, girl, you need to be you need to take advice from this person, like stay away from the casino, ban yourself. Holy shit. Yeah, those were just some of the things that wow.
SPEAKER_12That's crazy. That is now wild. Now, when someone said something like that, like so fucking perverted to you, were you able to like like red mark them or something? So like when it someone else got your route or someone else had to deliver mail, they were aware what a creepy fuck these people were?
SPEAKER_11I mean, I guess you could like leave a note within their cause like when you go in for the morning, you have like this bookcase that you have to like uh sort out like mail that is that can't go in the machine.
SPEAKER_08Oh.
SPEAKER_11So you could like put a note, I guess, within their address. But typically it was only for like dog butt or like dogs, like dog warning cards or people would write notes saying don't walk down this person's lawn. Or like I guess you could, but there was never that because it's all creepy men that work there anyways.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. So no one so no one was really protecting the the lady carriers, it was just like throw them to the wolves, literally wolves, and they make these horrible comments, and that one guy grabbing you like that, that's that's terri terrible.
SPEAKER_08Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's just creepy. That's so weird. I would never touch anybody's tattoo.
SPEAKER_11And those were the people that would be like, oh, come my like come in, go to the tattoo. Oh, yeah, you want to pay up for it.
SPEAKER_09You need to use the bathroom. Yeah, let me touch your tattoo. Come use my bathroom, all right?
SPEAKER_08Oh, like no, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Oh, girls. That is really wild stuff.
SPEAKER_12Wow. Some funny days though, like was your best moment that you would say that you recall when you were uh in the special delivery.
SPEAKER_08I'm gonna have to think hard on that one.
SPEAKER_12Um like I I thought maybe like peeing your pants was like the top priority.
SPEAKER_08It was the top notch.
SPEAKER_11That also did kind of suck because well, actually, one time I actually used that as an excuse to get out early, so that worked in my favor.
SPEAKER_08There you go.
unknownThere you go.
SPEAKER_11So that actually worked really well for me. So other times I would just walk around with pee pee pants.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, it reminds me of Billy Madison where he's like, it's cool to pee your pants.
SPEAKER_09And it's like then they all draw on the field trip and they all have like pee in their pants.
SPEAKER_12I would take I would take it that there really was nothing beneficial or over the top when you were uh a mail carrier.
SPEAKER_11No, not really. I would say it's a good job for people that like I guess are close to retirement.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, just something for them to do like throughout the day and stuff like that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Like you could still like walk around, like see nature, like all of that jazz what I would say elders like to do.
SPEAKER_09That's me, I'm a bird watcher and I love jazz. Oh, you just found your new career.
SPEAKER_02I'm I wonder if there's any openings, because uh feels like it's the right move. I don't couldn't do the no heat though.
SPEAKER_12Is there was there something specifically you like to be called? Like did you did you mind being called postal worker or mail carrier or I wouldn't mind honestly.
SPEAKER_11Like everybody would say the male man and then realizes I'm a girl, so they'd be like, oh, male woman.
SPEAKER_08Oh, male woman. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's funny. Good. So would you say so the scary what is the scariest moment you've had on the job? Was it that when that guy like grabbed you and was like touching your tattoo? I mean, that's pretty scary, but was there something else that happened?
SPEAKER_11I wouldn't say that was scarce. I would say like definitely there was this one time where this dog was on this rope, like not even really a leash, like a rope, and he totally snapped it off. It was like an elder lady, and he was like screaming like at the door, get over here, get over here. And obviously the dog's not listening at all. And all I have is my bat.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. What'd you do?
SPEAKER_11But like I don't want to use dog mace. Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_02Right. What do you what did you do?
SPEAKER_11Eagle dog and whatnot, a little ankle biter. So I'm just like waving the mail.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_11That was like the scarcity because like my heart was sinking. I I've known that that dog is like outside all the time and whatnot, and whenever it barks, like she brings it in immediately. But this time she was not assuming that it got off the leash. So she was just giving it a couple minutes, I think, and those couple minutes.
SPEAKER_08That is scary.
SPEAKER_02I I mean, even just like like a year ago, I was walking my dog, and she was still a puppy, and this dog just came running at us out of nowhere. And I'm like, dude, like that is I was so scared because you just never know, like, if the dog's friendly or not. Is it gonna attack you?
SPEAKER_11Is it you know I would say though, like, the dogs on the job? Like, on the brute that I think that had, I would like those were my bestest friends, the dogs. Aww.
SPEAKER_08That's sweet.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, wouldn't it tell the owners, and you're not supposed to do this, but I would give them like slim gems. Why does my dog have this shit?
SPEAKER_08I can't understand what's going on right now.
SPEAKER_11Oh yeah. The owners were always like very nice, though, too.
SPEAKER_12Well, that's good.
SPEAKER_11That like had the nice dogs, I would say.
SPEAKER_12I had one incident incident with my dog, and it was with my black lab, and we were in the back of the yard, and you know, I have a lot of property, so I let the dogs roam. And all of a sudden we turn around, we're like, shit, where'd the dog go? And then all of a sudden we hear in a far off distance on our front driveway going, Help, somebody, help me. Well, my dog decided to do like a shark bait and was just making a circle around her and and huffing, just oh my god, like and she'd be so scared. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_09That is so scary.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, he's scared. Yeah, he didn't do anything. He's just, you know, if he was gonna bite her, he would just fucking bit her. But he didn't. He was just kind of like, I don't know who the fuck you are and why what you're doing on my property. He's like, But you need to fucking leave.
SPEAKER_02Then then you got my dog who's just a murderer, could walk in the house and she'd be its best friend. Like, you know, it's fine. Oh, you're here to kill our family? Let me give you a kick. Let me be your friend. Sit on your lap.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I'll sit with you. I had uh I had a question. What's one part of the job people don't understand? What was one thing that you think you could like tell some of the people here that don't know what it's like to be, you know, so a male woman?
SPEAKER_11It's you're not just delivering mail. Like you're you clock in, you're pacing all of your mail within like a bookshelf, and that's like a good hour and a half or how however magazines or newspapers there are on top of loading up a cart, bringing it to your truck to then load up your truck just of the mail, and then you have these six thousand packages that you have to sort out to for your route, load that in your vehicle, and then go to the first cut of your street, get out and start walking. Oh after that street's over, you get back in your vehicle and then go to the second street, get out, grab and all that chess. And you would only get a 30-minute break and a a 10-minute break.
SPEAKER_12Just listening to you, I would never be one. I know.
SPEAKER_02Like my feet hurt. I'm tired. I know I'm like, fuck that. I'm just I I'm tired. I'd be tired the first hour and done with it. I would we would start a podcast about it. Yeah, we'd be like, let's start a mail carrier.
SPEAKER_11Sometimes I'd be so tired just from the night prior because it's like what? I walked so much and it was so cold and everything that I would just on my 30-minute launch, I would just nap.
SPEAKER_12That doesn't even sound like old people could do that job.
SPEAKER_11Just in the amount of walking in the house.
SPEAKER_02It's just so cold in that car.
SPEAKER_11I'm cold. Okay, so the the aluminum canned ones have the heat, but the regular like minivan, they actually do have peat. Even when it smells so bad.
SPEAKER_02Why do they smell bad?
SPEAKER_11Because all of the men like pee and because everyone pees.
SPEAKER_02Because everyone pees in there, so the cars all smell like pee.
SPEAKER_11Yes.
SPEAKER_02You know, when you did say that you would pee your pants, I was like, man, those seats, I hope they're leather.
SPEAKER_08Oh my god!
SPEAKER_12Now were you like the only one that used to do stuff like that, or did you know that other like nail carriers would have to do the same thing?
SPEAKER_11Um, no, I never met anyone that I was gonna say it, but we all do it.
SPEAKER_08It's just, oh, you peed your pants? Welcome to the club. Welcome to the post office.
SPEAKER_11Some some people wouldn't even know that I pee my pants could spend to the station to like lock out and then have like my sweatshirt wrapped around my head.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, I'd be so dehydrated. I would just be like, I I can't drink any more water. So I I'll just pee all day. I mean, if I drink a bottle of water, I'm peeing every 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_12You know, I have you I have you on the call right now, so I gotta ask something personal. So it really pisses me off when I get my neighbor's mail, and I get my neighbor's mail a lot. Like, why the fuck does that happen? Why is it yeah, like they see my fucking numbers on I I have them in big, bold, fucking outline red, like my numbers, and I still get the wrong fucking mail. Why?
SPEAKER_11Well, so the machine operated mail, it's literally like machine operated for the whole route. So it's in like sequence to house by house and street by street and everything. And sometimes the person like your neighbor to whatever other side of you um won't have mail. And they'll just like be it's like a continuous disruptive thing where you're just looking and grabbing all of the same number and putting it in the mailbox, and then the next house could have not any mail. So then that's when like sometimes you misdeliver because you're just so repetitive with just grabbing the mail and looking at the same number and putting it in the mailbox, you don't really like, I guess. I used to do it all the time.
SPEAKER_12So what you're saying is I sh I shouldn't be a bitch about it then.
SPEAKER_02I'm never calling the post office to complain again. I gotta ask you. So sometimes I'll go to the post office to bring a package there or whatever. Those ladies can be real bitches. They're miserable.
SPEAKER_08They were rude to us.
SPEAKER_02Why are they so miserable?
SPEAKER_12Is the group like segregated? Like, is it like the inside mail people are better than the the walkers?
SPEAKER_11Well, no, they're actually worse because they don't show up to work, and then I would have to be doing their job on top of like the clerk's job. So like sorting out, they're the ones that scan in all the packages and everything and sort the mail into cubby so that we could grab it to put it in our case and everything. And that since I was at the bottom of the barrel, I would have to get nominated to do clerk's job of like sorting packages, scanning it in, and then also have to case my s like case my mail and do all three everything else.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's so awful. Well, yeah, I'll never complain. I won't complain. I and they should be like, oh, at least we're in this warm office with dry pants and because I got my neighbors' mail. I don't want to walk ten steps to give my neighbors mail. So you but and you'd call and sit on hold to complain? Oh my gosh. It's funny. Oh my gosh. How was um working in the winter, like the inclement weather and having to deal with like a snowstorm and we're if it the weather was bad enough, would the would you guys not do the mail or oh no.
SPEAKER_11The US po like the post office literally their slogan is like I forget, honestly.
SPEAKER_08Don't fuck it up.
SPEAKER_11What? Like mail always has to go out, basically. Wow. So I remember like there was that really big like snowstorm and whatnot. I remember schools were closed, but we still had to go in to deliver mail, and obviously the mail trucks suck. So I was stuck and I'm like, I'm stuck in the snow. And like I would put um salt in the back of my truck just in case I would get stuck. Oh, that's smart. It wouldn't do anything. I'm like rocking it back and forth just I was probably stuck for a good like forty-five minutes. Oh my god. Damn. And yeah. I would put like toe toe warmer thingies in my shoes. Then I think like the worst experience I had with them was when I it was snowing so bad. And I was wearing the the postal shoes that they recommend. And they gave me the biggest blisters of my system. Like the whole like my whole wheel. And then my supervisor um pulled up on me like complaining to me, saying that I have the worst performance because I'm not delivering on time and all this jazz and people were helping me deliver and everything. So I ended up got sent to the office. And I literally just showed her my blisters. And she had the audacity to print out postal shoes that I should be wearing because she didn't see them on my feet because I changed them because they gave me the blisters, and I'm like, I was wearing those. Those were the things that gave me the stupid blisters. But yeah, that was like I would say what kind of set me off. And I was like, all right, enough is enough. Right. Oh yeah. Especially the the people that work in the the state like the office. Oh, they don't they don't give a shit about you. You're just a number and if you do good, if you do good delivering mail, then that's good on them because it's like those are their statistics statistics.
SPEAKER_06Oh wow, they go off the dog.
SPEAKER_11And the postmaster like influences the supervisors to be nasty. Like there was a multiple like carriers that you supervisors, but they ended up stooping down.
SPEAKER_02She's that's insane. I uh wow. I don't even know what to say. That's just so crappy.
SPEAKER_12Was there was there anyone in the post post office that you just cause like we had a couple people that we worked with that we were just like, fuck you. Like enough. Like back the fuck up, like your breath stinks, go get a piece of gum type deal. Was there anyone there that you used to like really butt heads with?
SPEAKER_11I was really like, I guess, friendly to all of my coworkers. I really had no problem with anybody.
SPEAKER_07That's cool.
SPEAKER_11It's I just wouldn't understand that like if I was pissed off, like they wouldn't just come and talk to me. And I'm glad because that's good.
SPEAKER_02They respected you. Some days you just don't wanna pow wow and shoot the shit with people, right? Right.
SPEAKER_11But there was like a lot of creeps, like that's what it kind of was filled with was just creeps, like that worked there? Yeah, that works there. And that's what's so crazy to me too. Like, it's a federal job and half of them are all on drugs.
SPEAKER_07Oh wow.
SPEAKER_02Wait, what? Like like what kind of back to that. Like Don't they drug test you guys? I was just gonna say No, really don't? For even it's a federal job and they don't drug test.
SPEAKER_11Nope.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_11Driving a vehicle too.
SPEAKER_02That is interesting. I wow, I did not know that. I didn't either. I just thought any kind of government job, anything through like the state or anything, wouldn't you have to get a drug test. And sometimes they do like pop-up drug tests. I like how they they drug test people in the court system, but they don't they don't drug test people driving around delivering mail. It's interesting.
SPEAKER_10That's why your mail would get messed with it. That's why that explain it. You better you gotta check your give your postal work or drug test. I might as well just give them a beer. Just give them a beer.
SPEAKER_12What's your proudest moment as a mail carrier?
SPEAKER_08Um getting paid. I I agree with you.
SPEAKER_02I I feel that's perfect.
SPEAKER_09You couldn't have said it any better.
SPEAKER_02So now I know that they say that um vandalizing a mailbox is a federal offense. So if did you ever come across a mailbox that was maybe vandalized or like was removed or something, and like you had nowhere to put the mail? And like, are you supposed to let them know, like, hey, this mailbox was vandalized? Are you supposed to like tell on them?
SPEAKER_11I never know for vandalizing. I would never like I don't think I really even saw one like that. Like a lot of mailboxes that I would deliver to were on houses. So if anything they were just painted or anything like that. But when it goes for like plows during winter and whatnot, and if they didn't have a mailbox, you're not getting your mail today 'cause you don't have a mailbox to put it in.
SPEAKER_12So what would you guys do with the mail then if you didn't deliver it?
SPEAKER_11We would hold it at the post office and they could come pick it up.
SPEAKER_12How long do you hold the mail?
SPEAKER_11Typically it would be for like I think it was max is like three months or three months, three weeks.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Then what happens if they don't pick it up? Where does it go?
SPEAKER_11Um you're supposed to send like void 'em, basically. So like you write saying like um like a return sender?
SPEAKER_12Yeah, so it's weird. So now you gotta now you have to re-deliver it to the d the sender.
SPEAKER_11Honestly, like I would have mail that like like return sender stuff. But the one thing that you don't like return to sender is like magazines or newspaper, like you just toss those. Like that's like somebody actually got fired from the post office for throwing out mail. That was like first class.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, that's isn't that jail time? They always threaten you know, they always get threatened with that. Like, oh, it's jail time, you should never tamper with or open someone else's mail, or you could go to jail for like ten years and could you imagine going to jail because like you opened someone's mail or like threw it away or Oh, I wouldn't that be crazy?
SPEAKER_08That would be horrid.
SPEAKER_12Did you ever open someone's mail?
SPEAKER_08No. Because you didn't want to go to jail. We're all afraid.
SPEAKER_12No. Was there ever a package that you saw that was like no one was coming for it and you just wanted to open it to see what it was?
SPEAKER_11Um, no, not necessarily. Uh there was like this house though I remember that packages would like just got stocked up and stocked up, and then it got to a point where it was like, Why am I delivering these packages? It's like raining outside, they're all damaged at this point. And the neighbor ended up coming out and talking to me and told me that, like, oh, they're calling to do a welfare check because they haven't seen her in in a really long time. Oh, that's crazy. But yeah, that's like the only time where it was like packages were just stacked up. The other time, people are so meaty because of like the thieves with packages where it's like they have you literally like open their house and put it in the in the sunroom or like the back door.
SPEAKER_12Because of the porch pirates. Yeah. They're horrible.
SPEAKER_02In this city, it is so bad. It is. My a friend of mine lives in the city and like they have a camera and it happens all the time. They'll just and they're so like confident, they're not even mysterious, or they're just like, bam, I'm bright colors, walking on the porch, one in the afternoon, grabbing their packages. Crazy.
SPEAKER_12Did you ever see the TikToks where the guy was sick of getting his packages stolen? So he planted a color bomb inside of them. So when you go up and then when you walk so far away from the house, it automatically explodes. People are like covered in like purple dye.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That is a necessity. I think more people should.
SPEAKER_12If I was a postal worker, that's what I do. I would just set people up with porch bombs all the time. Just like sit in the car and watch them. I'd pee myself just like you. You'd pee yourself laughing.
SPEAKER_11Wait, wait for them to open the package. Oh, that's so funny.
SPEAKER_12I was gonna ask you, what's the weirdest thing someone said you about dread delivering, but you covered that shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was gonna ask you I don't wait to ask that. What was the most awkward package you ever had to deliver?
SPEAKER_11Um, somebody's dog's ashes. They have to sign for it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's so sad. Did you know like the dog from that your route?
SPEAKER_11No, no, it was like a fill-in route, thankfully. But she opened the door and she goes, Oh, that's like, and says the dog's name. And I'm like, like, I was like confused at first, and then I'm like putting two and two together, like, oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_07That's so sad. Oh my gosh. That is sad. Wow.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. But the other another weird thing was ladybugs. Like, we would get or chicks, and you would just hear chick chick-chick in the post office, and it's like, what the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_02They would mail Wait, they did you say they mailed mail ladybugs and chicks? Chickens in a like in a box, and they put them in the mail?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02They put ladybugs there's so she's like, wait, what? Wait, what? Ladybugs, you know why people um I I know this ladybugs, they they sometimes when you have like an infestation on your plants, you'll actually release ladybugs to take care of whatever bug is oh wow, really infesting the plant. But um, I guess that's how you get the ladybugs. You just order them in the mail and ladybugs. Now, what kind of package does a ladybug come in?
SPEAKER_11Like oh, they were like just in a box with no holes, and it was like blind animal stamp on it.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_11And then you look and it's like ladybugs.
SPEAKER_07Crazy.
SPEAKER_11Couldn't see them or anything.
SPEAKER_07Fucked up, dude.
SPEAKER_11But the chicks you could definitely see in here.
SPEAKER_07That's so cute. I would steal them. I would steal. They're so cute.
SPEAKER_11It's so weird though, you think about it. It's like I'm delivering mail and it's I just have like 28 chicks.
SPEAKER_02What about like any like uh bomb threat or anthrax or was there ever anything like you know, that was dangerous that happened, like for you guys?
SPEAKER_11No. I would say the only thing that was like annoying is like you had like a leaky package or something, like say like your th somebody's shampoo exploded. They put it in a plastic bag and you'd still have to deliver it. So like they're not getting like yelled at by the customers you are. And like you wouldn't report it like via your iPod thingy um saying like damaged material, but other than that, like they're obviously still complaining to you. It's like Yeah. Why'd you even deliver it? Right.
SPEAKER_08That's linked.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, they would like package still gotta get out.
SPEAKER_02Wow. That's nuts. What about like a a hoarding situation or anything where you like couldn't even like get to the property. There was just so much stuff in the yard.
SPEAKER_08Um I don't recall any like hoarding, I would say.
SPEAKER_11I would I remember this one time speaking about dogs though. There was like twenty little, I don't even like Yorkis maybe on this porch. And I'm like, what the hell? And she's like, Oh, come on in. I just had babies. And I'm like, so what? Not including these. So I'm in there and I I have my I have a video and it's like I have uh my mail in my hands, I have my shoes on, my whole outfit, my bag's still on, and she pulls she throws like three dogs in my in my hand, and I'm like, Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02She probably wanted you to take them with you. She had so many. Were she like selling them? Like, did you ask her?
SPEAKER_11Selling the new puppies, but all of the ones on the porch were supposedly hers.
SPEAKER_02Wow. I mean, I know Yorkies are small.
SPEAKER_11But uh, like that location, I don't think you can have that many dogs.
SPEAKER_02Maybe she's illegal. I think it is too. Like, even where we are, I think the max is three. I don't even know what the max is where I am. So she just has 75 Yorkis running around. She's just like, please take them. Take them, give them away.
SPEAKER_09Right. Yeah. And the portion see all these freaking poor little furry friends tearing on the page.
SPEAKER_02They're like smaller than a cat. I'd be afraid I'd step on them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Those are the worst, I would say though. Like, rather than the bigger dogs, like the bigger dogs, I would say like were more calm and like you'd see them. Whereas the little dogs, they're coming out of the woodworks and a little crack out of the garage.
SPEAKER_09Fuck, there it is. No, no, it's the malt the wall maltese.
SPEAKER_08There it is. It's the Schnickerdoodles! Oh the chew chihuahua.
SPEAKER_02Chihuahua The Chihuahua is living behind the molding.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_09No, seriously. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_12Has there has what what is it? Um, let me start that over again. Hang with me. Has the job taught you anything about people in general? Like, did you did you walk out of the situation being a male carrier as like with like feeling more well-rounded individual, or did you leave the job thinking people are fucking shitty and everything sucks?
SPEAKER_11Um Probably both. Like in a whole, I would say I walked out thinking like Damn, like federally this shit is corrupt.
SPEAKER_07Like it does.
SPEAKER_11It's crazy.
SPEAKER_08The workers are treated like shit.
SPEAKER_11Like there were some good days. Like I made friends that like I still speak to, I guess, here and there. Um other than that, like it's just older people not in my age range that like I would not really connect to.
SPEAKER_12What about clientele? Do you s did do you do you miss any clientele? Like some customers they used to deliver to that was like extra special to you? Not the tattoo guy. Did you get his digits?
SPEAKER_11There was no like people. It was mostly dogs.
SPEAKER_02All dogs. I don't mind that. I wouldn't mind that. I I like animals a lot better than humans. She's like, man, I miss Barry. Who's Barry? Barry's a dog.
SPEAKER_11And like at that point too, like when people would like talk to me, I'm like, I kind of just want to like do my job and get out because I already know I'm gonna be here till like nine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you just want to work as fast as possible and get out.
SPEAKER_11But that was like also horrible to do. Like if you're a hard worker, never. Because actually never be. Because as a post office, they will I would do like an eight hour route and probably like five hours and they would give me another five hours of a different route and I'd send them home and it's like because they're not on the overtime list. So they would take slow work to like try to get overtime and that's like I don't know, like double pay or triple payer for them or something since they're not on. And it's something with a union too where like they could get money out of it in a way. So they would send obviously the the ones at the bottom of the barrel who aren't forced to be on overtime list, which we had no option because we weren't uh a full-time, I guess, male carrier, but we were there the longest. Like I that still doesn't make sense to me.
SPEAKER_02I would make no sense.
SPEAKER_12Out of all the jobs in your career, is this would you say this is the worst or have you had a worse or job than this?
SPEAKER_11Um I would say it's definitely my top three worst. I would say yeah. Maybe number one out of top three.
SPEAKER_07I would say yeah. It sounds pretty awful.
SPEAKER_11And I know people have other jobs where it was just like my bosses were like just weird, but like I would work with my friends, so like we kind of would get through it together in a way. But there was never like tortured like with like physical like Yeah, that sounds horrible.
SPEAKER_02I think that's when it it's it's physical on top of mental. Right. That's like a whole new ball game.
SPEAKER_11And it's like you're working ten hours a day, and since the CCAs, like the newbies, they would have to work Sundays too. So like I was working seven days a week. Seven Amazon packages on Sundays.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. I always feel so bad for those people.
SPEAKER_11It's not Amazon.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, true. No, it's true. I I actually like I feel like that's a relatively new service. And I remember the first time I saw like the Amazon or mail truck delivering mail Amazon, and I'm just like, on a Sunday, like why we can we've survived without getting mail on Sundays for like many many moons, and like why are we suddenly like in need of our Amazons on Sunday? That's fucked up.
SPEAKER_12You know what the creepiest thing is is in my area where I live, the guy who actually delivers our Amazon packages, he works for the postal service, but he drives a beater and he wears regular clothes, which is so he's an RCCA, which is a rural city carrier or rural carrier.
SPEAKER_11Or an RCCA, something like that, because I was a CCA, so I'm a city carrier.
SPEAKER_12Okay. He scared the fuck out of me walking up my driveway with a package, and I'm like, I it was dark, and I don't have lights on my street because I live in fucking East Bumpock, and he's walking up my driveway, and my dogs are going crazy. I'm like, what the fuck are you? And he's like, I'm just a delivery part of Amazon. And I'm like, oh my god, you scared the shit out of me. I'm like, give me my package, get the fuck off my property.
SPEAKER_11So yeah, they're like rural carriers, so like they actually have to pay themselves to get their steering wheel put on the opposite side of their vehicle.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh yeah, yeah. How was that driving like that when you've never driven like that? I don't think they do any training in that.
SPEAKER_11They you have like a training for like three three hours like for one thing.
SPEAKER_02Wow. I feel like I would need like a physical road test to be able to drive on the opposite side like that.
SPEAKER_11I feel like they care more about just like delivering the mail because when they're training you, it's like they implement that immediately. It's not just like, oh, get used to just driving, I would say. But they would have like a little obstacle course, I would say. And you're just driving in circles around a parking lot for probably like three hours and then they're like, okay, and they get in the vehicle with you and you just hit the road.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Like okay, like they're not supposed to wear earbuds. You see everybody wearing earbuds. Right. Right. On top of that, like everybody's supposed to they would say curb your wheels. So like if you're parked on the road and you see like a curb, like their wheels have to be pointed in. So like if their parking brake like fails, it's not like there's a vehicle going down a big hill or something like that. But you don't see anybody like do any of that.
SPEAKER_02It's crazy. Do they handle the repairs to your vehicle if something needs to be maintenance, like a oil change, tires, issues?
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Um one time I had a flat tire and I was stuck on the side of the road for like two and a half hours, so I still had to finish my eight hours of like group. And it's just like this random like I think it's USPS McCamin. Maybe. I forget like what they're called, to be honest. But they just come and fix whatever and then go about their day, but it takes forever, so that's why they like are like never want to call, I would say. But they do have like tags where it's like you write up the vehicle and whatnot, but it's like they have fans. Some fans wouldn't work in the vehicles on a hot summer day, some of the heat wouldn't work on a hot like a really cold day, so it's really like I don't know what they were doing.
SPEAKER_12And they don't fix stuff like that for the workers.
SPEAKER_11I I mean last I checked, I would write things up and then I would my keys would be back. And I was like, okay, this is the list of I remember the first, like my first, I guess, like two weeks, three weeks working there, I'm in the aluminum can. And I'm driving and I look at the ground and it's literally just a screw missing, and I see the road underneath just while I'm driving.
SPEAKER_02Holy fuck. No way. Like a Fred Flintstone. Like a Fred Flintstone car. They like they had to like they didn't have an engine, so they had to just run with and use their feet. So that's why you get those blisters. You're just like the car died, and you just had to run. You're like, I need to get home. Like, this is the longest day of my life. Seven days a week. Man, that is just blows my mind. Like, I I always knew that that job was tough, but like this, you're putting it in a whole new perspective.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That is a tough job.
SPEAKER_12I would never ever fucking do it. I wouldn't either.
SPEAKER_02Even if I were young, even if I were in my 20s, I wouldn't work.
SPEAKER_07Even when I'm elderly and want to walk more, I'm gonna say fuck that.
SPEAKER_02I say fuck, yeah, fuck that job.
SPEAKER_09Um I have so much respect now. I do.
SPEAKER_06Oh, they're gonna start giving them.
SPEAKER_09That's Mike.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna ask you, what is something that we can do for our mail carriers to make them happy? And you know, if they're having a a day where they're bleeding and full of pee and running their car into the ground, like what can we do?
SPEAKER_11Um, hold your mail, don't order packages.
SPEAKER_12That was like hold on, holy shit.
SPEAKER_08Everybody delectively do it on the room.
SPEAKER_02I know with with postage being like what 75 cents now? Like you would think people would not be mailing things.
SPEAKER_11Right. Everybody, yeah, there's still a lot of mail that goes through.
SPEAKER_02People pay it. It's just like groceries and everything else. You just you pay it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. Well, what's one message you'd want to deliver to the public?
SPEAKER_08Um putting you on the spot.
SPEAKER_11I would say that made me realize like work life balance in a way. Because it was always just work, work, work. And it's like I'm so young, so it's like I still want to enjoy life, although like I do need to work, work, work. I would say a message to the people, uh cancel your mail. Yes, cancel, cancel.
SPEAKER_08Cancel cancel.
SPEAKER_11If you see somebody, like if you see a postal trunk on the side of the road, maybe throw a couple scrubs. Save them a t save them a c a few hours to eat their lunch.
SPEAKER_02I'll bring them lunch. I'm just gonna buy them, buy 'em lunch every day. Just make them grilled cheese. She probably I'll be the weird lady. Like, come on in, have a grilled cheese, and they'll be like, We really need to get going. Like, I need to get like what I'm doing a good time. But I made wait I'm making tomato soup from scratch. You have to wait for me to finish it. Come in, come meet my dog. Yes, come on and have a seat. Have a seat.
SPEAKER_12Do you like what you're doing now?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I actually enjoy it.
SPEAKER_12Good. Oh, that's wonderful. That's good. I'm glad you got out of the mail area. I mean, I love it when my mail's delivered, but I I I do feel bad that you had to experience that. That just sounds heartbreaking.
SPEAKER_11I understand though too. It's like there's an app and people see the mail that's getting delivered and what's in the mail, why do I have to deliver it still?
SPEAKER_12I don't I don't have that app. No, I don't either.
SPEAKER_02I do have the post office app, but I I don't know. I just used it to make labels a few times.
SPEAKER_12So I'm so I could physically see what mail is being delivered. And then can I say I don't want that piece of mail? Can I say, like, oh, if there's five magazines, be like, I don't want any of the magazines?
SPEAKER_11I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_12That would make the app worthwhile.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it would.
SPEAKER_12To be like, oh, I see I have five bills coming in. No, you can trash those.
SPEAKER_11Well, I don't need those bills. Like stuff like that. What are they gonna do? Just be like, oh, don't want that trash.
SPEAKER_12Okay, so you found a loophole in my my thing, my thought process.
SPEAKER_08That is funny.
SPEAKER_11No, but that would be interesting too. Like when I was delivering mail at like on houses, I'd see like a piece of paper on their window. I'm like, ooh, who's getting evicted today?
SPEAKER_08Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02I like having so much knowledge. I you do. I like how you find all these ways to just like make the day better. Like, you know, who's getting evicted? And like, you know, you you found like the the humor, like keeping track of all of the creepy comments, like you found like the humor in the situation in in the really tough situation in the tough work day. And I I really uh respect that. That's really amazing that you you did that. Because that's a tough job you did, really. Right. Yeah, that is a very tough job.
SPEAKER_11That's why you see me at the bar every night.
SPEAKER_09Telling your war stories. That is great.
SPEAKER_12Is there anything else you wanna you wanna chit-chat about or you feeling good?
SPEAKER_08I'm feeling great.
SPEAKER_02Feels good to vent, right? Snort.
SPEAKER_11So yeah. Like just talking about that. I'm like, ooh, like I actually love my job.
SPEAKER_02Yes, right? Like reliving some of that trauma and the stress, like it just wow, well, what a good decision I made to get out. Oh, I'm so proud of you.
SPEAKER_07Me too.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. You're like my new hero. Yes, and I love how you said like work-life balance is so important, and with that job, I wasn't getting it. And now you found a career where you have that, and that's huge.
SPEAKER_12It's huge. Yeah, you you saw the warning signs and you took action, which is hard for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02It is, and and like working for like the post office, and you get like, you know, there's a lot of perks with that and longevity in the company, and just I don't know. Just the retirement. The retirement, the pension. I mean, but at the end of the day, it's like, why bust your ass for I get it, but like if you can find something else that is satisfying and you can have that work-life balance, why not? It's worth it.
SPEAKER_11So worth it all the time and be like, you only have 30 more years. I'm like, I'm gonna go. Only for 30 years. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You'd be out on workers' comp or like, you know, with that, you never know what'll happen, and like being on your feet and all those hours, and just you're not like use your health insurance, go to the chiropractor like every other month.
SPEAKER_11No, and I'm like, when? I don't even have time to eat dinner. Right?
SPEAKER_10You're cause you because you gotta go to the bar.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's true though, like you're walking 30,000 steps a day. And I mean, at yeah, and people would probably look at that as, oh, you're getting your steps in. I mean, I even said that in the beginning, but it's not like you're exercising and you're not probably eating healthy, you're you're just exhausted.
SPEAKER_11Probably like the skinniest I've ever been in my life working there.
SPEAKER_02I bet, because you were just on the move.
SPEAKER_11A hundred pounds, not even.
SPEAKER_02Gosh, I should get get a job there. I'm having trouble. I'm trying to lose five pounds. I can't. It's so hard. I'd be like, gosh, after 30,000. Maybe I should just start walking 30,000 steps. It's too cold. I can't walk too.
SPEAKER_11Like, I gained like 40 pounds, but like a healthy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's healthy, right? Because you're sleeping better, you're eating better, you're you have time for you. Your mental health has improved from not being stressed and overwhelmed all the time. So and getting creepy people touching your tattoos and dealing with that.
SPEAKER_06It is.
SPEAKER_12That's just so messed up. It is. Yeah, that's so weird. That's total boundaries 100% right there. Absolutely. Well, I just want to say thank you so much. So much enlightening. You are an amazing first guest.
SPEAKER_02You won't go down in history as the best first guest ever.
SPEAKER_05Miss Lady Special Delivery. Thank you, Miss Lady Special. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_08We're not worthy. We're not worthy.
SPEAKER_05We suck.
SPEAKER_08We suck. Which is just one name.
SPEAKER_12Yep. Next guest, man. They're gonna, they're gonna have to, they have high standards. It's gonna be awesome. So my new favorite episode. Yep, definitely. Definitely. Right there. Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02Taurus, thank you for having. Yes, you'll have to come back on.
SPEAKER_11Yes.
SPEAKER_12All right. We're we're we're gonna just say bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. She was fucking amazing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was great. That was great. I I learned so much about the post office. I know, right? Like I said earlier, I I knew that was a tough job, but wow, that is that is a lot. There's a lot of things we just don't know or think about.
SPEAKER_12And she just put in such good story captions. That was that that just made it so much what more worthwhile just to listen to her stories. Yes. She was amazing. Yeah, she was fantastic. Be kind to the post workers. Postal workers. Yes, definitely. That's right. She didn't even have to, you could say person postal worker, right?
SPEAKER_02That's a postal worker. So well, Josie, do you have some words of encouragement?
SPEAKER_12Yeah, yeah, I'll throw them out there. To the ones driving the route, walking the floors, answering the calls, delivering the mail, handling the chaos. This podcast was for you. To the brave souls who walked 12 miles, delivered 147 packages, and avoided three suspicious dogs, and still managed to smile. You are built different because what you do is essential. So are you, Warrior.
SPEAKER_02And that's a wrap on today's confession. Whether you're surviving your nine to five, plotting your escape, or just here for the chaos, we see you. Remember, every cubicle has a story. Figures might just be next. Until then, keep it honest, keep it human, and try not to hit or fly off. Cubicle Confession signing off.