Finish the Damn Book Podcast

Bridging Science and Spirit: The Four Worlds of Consciousness with Dr. Eleanor Haspel-Portner

Susie Schaefer

In this episode of Finish the Damn Book, Susie Schaefer sits down with Dr. Eleanor Haspel-Portner — psychologist, researcher, bestselling author, and creator of the Four Worlds Framework and Noble Energy Maps. With over 45,000 documented cases, Eleanor has built a rare bridge between science and spirituality, revealing how human consciousness shapes both our inner and outer worlds.

She shares her fascinating publishing journey — from hand-typed manuscripts in the 1970s to modern self-publishing — and how divine downloads, data, and devotion to truth guide her creative process. Together, they explore how balancing mind, body, emotion, and spirit leads not only to powerful writing but to authentic living.

If you’ve ever wondered how to bring your purpose to the page while staying spiritually aligned, this conversation will inspire you to finish your book — and evolve your consciousness along the way.