The Mother -Son Podcast: With Kim & Jake
Real conversations. Real connection.
The Mother Son Podcast with Kim and Jacob is a heartfelt and often humorous series where a real-life mother and her teenage son explore the joys, challenges, and awkward moments of growing up and parenting. From navigating friendships and school drama to handling bullies, big feelings, and social pressure, no topic is off limits.
Jacob, who is on the spectrum, brings his unique insights, humor, and perspective to every conversation. Together, they share their journey with neurodiversity, parenting, and learning to embrace each other’s differences and strengths.
Whether you’re raising a tween, parenting a neurodivergent child, or just want to hear meaningful (and funny) mother-son moments, this podcast is for you.
The Mother -Son Podcast: With Kim & Jake
Wait—You Meant That Literally, Right? Improving Communication Between Neurodiverse and Neurotypical Minds
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In this episode of The Mother-Son Podcast with Kim & Jake, we dive into the fascinating world of literal thinking—how neurodiverse kids interpret language, humor, and social cues in uniquely precise ways.
Kim and Jake share real-life stories from home and school, from classroom misunderstandings to everyday “wait, you meant that literally?” moments. Together, they explore how the autistic brain processes language differently, why phrases like “give me a minute” or “keep your eye on the ball” can create confusion, and how teachers, parents, and friends can learn to communicate more clearly and compassionately.
You’ll also hear about the science behind literal thinking, how both hemispheres of the brain contribute to language processing, and what research says about figurative language comprehension in autism. Plus, Kim and Jake introduce creative strategies that help build flexible thinking and reduce frustration at home and in the classroom.
💬 In This Episode
- What it means to be a literal thinker and how it affects communication.
- Real-life examples of school misunderstandings—when following directions exactly causes confusion.
- How teachers can give clearer instructions for neurodiverse learners.
- Why sarcasm, metaphors, and idioms can be tricky—and how to explain them.
- Practical ways to help kids build flexibility, including creative classroom strategies.
- How to create a supportive environment that values direct, honest communication.
- Why literal thinking isn’t a flaw—it’s a different and often brilliant way of processing the world.
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🧩 References & Resources
American Psychological Association. (2023). Language processing differences in autism spectrum disorders.
Autism Speaks. (n.d.). Literal thinking and school communication.
Baron-Cohen, S. (2020). The pattern seekers: How autism drives human invention. Basic Books.
Gernsbacher, M. A., & Pripas-Kapit, S. R. (2012). Who’s missing the point? A commentary on claims that autistic persons have a specific deficit in figurative language comprehension. Metaphor and Symbol, 27(1), 93–105. https://doi.org/10.1080/10926488.2012.656255
Happé, F. G. E. (1993). Communicative competence and theory of mind in autism: A test of relevance theory. Cognition, 48(2), 101–119. https://doi.org/10.1016/0010-0277(93)90026-R
Happé, F. (1994). Understanding story characters’ thoughts and feelings. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders.
Kalandadze, T., Norbury, C. F., Nærland, T., & Næss, K.-A. B. (2016). Figurative language comprehension in individuals with autism spectrum disorder: A meta-analytic review. Autism, 22(2), 99–117. https://doi.org/10.1177/1362361316668652
Morrison, C. (2024). Autism and literal thinking: Understanding the connection. Autism Parenting Magazine.
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