Third Eye on the Prize
Third Eye on the Prize is a poetic, grounded podcast for people willing to stay present when life's waters get choppy.
Hosted by writer and artist Debra Sansone, the show explores presence not as a concept, but as a lived practice under pressure: in moments of unexpected change, parenting, relationship, grief, intuition...even collapse.
These episodes don't aim to soothe or bypass discomfort, but to stay with it long enough for something honest to emerge.
Drawing on storytelling, spiritual inquiry, and embodied attention, Third Eye on the Prize questions easy narratives and spiritual shortcuts, inviting listeners into deeper contact with themselves and the world as it is - messy, intelligent, and alive.
Taking a look at the turbulence happening in the world right now through the lens of presence.
As always: keep your third eye on the prize, and remember, truth is beyond belief.
Third Eye on the Prize
One Person Somewhere: A Prayer for Presence
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"We can help each other be here."
Somewhere in the world, one person pressed play.
Looking at the map of listeners for this podcast—32 countries, 115 cities—I was struck by how often it comes down to just one person in a place. One listener in Ukraine. One in Morocco. One in Pakistan.
And it made me wonder…
Who are you when you’re listening?
Are you here… or somewhere else?
In a world designed to fragment our attention, presence has become rare—and quietly powerful.
This episode is a return to an earlier meditation, recorded on a quiet spring morning by a pond. What began as a simple walk became a reflection on attention, distraction, and the deeper kind of connection we’re actually looking for.
Maybe, for a few minutes… we can meet there.
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So I was looking at my buzz throat stats on episodes, you know, and it shows you the world map of how many downloads have come from different countries and cities. And I think it's really cool and interesting. And I have a small audience compared to some, you know. And yet, the countries total 32, and the cities 115. There's a whole mess of these countries where it's one download in each place. One person, you know? And yet, look at the look at the the range of it. It's crazy. Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan. It's actually on every continent. Well, not Antarctica. Okay, Uruguay, Indonesia, Morocco, Colombia, and then there's a little another little group where there's two include that includes Argentina, India, Brazil, and Venezuela. There are three downloads from Mexico, Germany, the Philippines, four from France, six from Australia, six Bangladesh, eight from the UK, eleven in Vietnam, 29 in Singapore. The rest are from the US. Okay. But then it goes all over the place. Dallas, New South Wales. This is a riot. Four downloads from Ho Chi Minsi, South Carolina, Manila, Iowa, Paris, New Jersey, Florida, Boston, Vegas, Kyiv, Nairobi, Danang, Cardiff. Wow, there's there's even one from Staten Island. These things you you throw something out, there's a seat or whatever, and it just flies on the wind. It flies on the on the wing of the internet and goes. It's interesting. And I was thinking, I don't know who you are. In Paris or Ho Chi Minh City or Montevideo. I don't know when you're listening. I don't know what's happening in your life. Or in the lives of the rest of you who are listening. This connection is strange. Unique. So wherever you are. This was recorded on a quiet morning in the internet. Maybe for a few minutes, we can leave there. Welcome to Third Eye on the Prize. A portal for presence in a world addicted to appearances. I'm standing looking out over a pond. Near where I live, it's early morning, springtime, signs of new life emerging all over. Animals in the plants, the soil, all kinds of currents moving more. It's quite cloudy today, so there is no direct sunshine, just indirect. And so there is a actually peaceful gray tone. And I'm looking at the expanse of water in this pond. The reflection of the trees that are all around are in the water. So the sky is infusing the water. It feels as though it's infinite. The images of the trees are inverted. Reflection of a bird that just flew across the sky, reflected in the water, and felt as though the bird was flying through the water. And I just listened as I was walking over to the park where the pond is, to the voice of Eckhart with his uh seemingly infinite patience reminding us to become conscious. If we had slipped out of that, if we had slipped out of awareness or were caught up. As it is so easy to be caught in the web, the spider prey gets caught in the web. But that's part of the design of nature that the spider needs to eat, like all living things. But we humans are caught in a massive web that tends to exacerbate our overthinking and distraction, sometimes called monkey mind. And of course, it's the collective monkey mind that created this massive sticky web that seems to be just exponentially growing. And I can't help feeling at the same time as I'm looking at this lovely scene, also aware of the pain of humans to be caught in this massive web. Internet apps scrolling, the franticness to it. And and under that, people want to really be connected. You hear it all the time, looking for connection. We're connected digitally, virtually, but that's really just not enough, is it? We need to touch each other. The world was changed so profoundly by the pandemic. And we are in this phase, well, I think most would agree, difficult, gargantuan uh imbalances. You just look around and you can see that uh the natural world is trying to cope and compensate for this, these gross massive imbalances of humans. Wealth imbalance is massive resource imbalance. Too much water in one place, none or not enough in another, too much heat and fire in one place, not enough in another. And this is not not saying this to feel despairing, but it's just what is. It's just what is. And then you also see efforts to counter to counterbalance or to to write imbalances, small ones, larger ones, efforts to get back to some balanced state and presence. And that's heartening. And we can use the mass of a web that connects us to help do that instead of trying to grasp at as many followers as I can possibly get. So my viewing or subscriber numbers can be higher and higher and higher. And then what? I mean, that kind of grasping is no more nourishing than any other kind of grasping. It's a rabbit hole, it just leads to more grasping. So we can help remind each other to just relax with all that chasing or running away from something, running towards something, running away from something, and just be here. We can help each other be here, wishing you presence in as many moments as you can find it. Namaste. Until next time, keep your third eye on the prize, and remember truth is beyond belief.