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S2 EP 8 It Only Takes One Yes: Julie Whitney on Reinvention, Resilience and Second Acts (Ep 51)

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Some stories remind you that it’s not too late. Not for the dream you tucked away. Not for the creative spark you thought you missed. Not for the reinvention you quietly crave.

In this episode I’m joined by Julie Whitney — a self-employed PR professional who, in the middle of the pandemic, found herself standing in a hangar beside a plane she’d never even flown in… and feeling something crack wide open.

When Julie’s husband, “Captain Dan,” unexpectedly lost his job as chief corporate pilot in 2020, the loss wasn’t just professional — it was emotional. Julie personified the Gulfstream jet he flew (Astra), imagining her alone in a dark hangar… and that single moment became the beginning of a brand new chapter.

That night, Julie started writing Astra the Lonely Airplane — and what began as a surprising, heart-led idea became a published children’s book series, award recognition, school readings that move her to tears, and now… the dream of an animated streaming series built around kindness, hope, and helping others.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • Reinvention and second acts (especially when life forces a pivot)
  • The publishing process and rejection resilience (Julie sent 60–70 queries!)
  • What it’s like to read your book to hundreds of kids and watch your message land
  • How hope becomes a practice: “It only takes one yes.”
  • Why Julie defines hope as never giving up
  • Leaving a legacy rooted in goodness, kindness, and non-cynical joy

If you’ve been asking yourself, “Do I still have time?” — let this be your reminder: yes. You do.

Connect with Julie + Astra:
Website: AstraTheLonelyAirplane.com
Email: Julie@AstraTheLonelyAirplane.com

Get the Books - Astra the Lonely Airplane- Amazon....and look for them in the airport when you travel :) 

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One Yes And Setups

SPEAKER_00

It only takes one yes. So if you're trying to write a book, if you're trying to, I don't know, get a uh a movie, I don't know, create a movie, whatever you're trying to do, start any kind of business, it only takes one yes. Just keep going, keep going.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

Danielle Elliott Smith

Welcome to Hope Comes to Visit. I'm Danielle Elliott Smith. This is more than a podcast. It's a gathering place, a space for stories that open hearts, conversations that spark truth, and hope that hopefully shows up right on time. I'm really excited for today's conversation. My guest is a testament to what it looks like to show up for reinvention and step into your second act. Julie Whitney is a self-employed PR professional who is a testament to resilience and reinvention and what it looks like to create and master your own second act. And she has now added to her resume children's book author. Julie, I'm so excited for you to be here with me today. Thank you for joining me. Thanks for having me, Danielle. I'm excited too. This is such a fun story. When I was first reading all about you, I love because we frequently say to ourselves, what do I want to be when I grow up? And do I still have time to do all these things that I want to do? And you are the answer to that question personified.

SPEAKER_00

And it happened in the least expected way. I never had children's book author on my bucket list at all.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Really? See, that's even better because I think that some of us have these things on our list and don't know how to get to them. And sometimes we don't know how to answer the wait, do I want to do this when it pops up? So let's start at the beginning of your story. What were you doing? You're a self-employed PR professional, and how do we take this left turn?

The Day Astra Lost Her Pilot

SPEAKER_00

So in 2020, when the pandemic hit and the world shut down, you know, everyone was on lockdown. Um, it was a tragic year for many of us. And my husband, who was the chief corporate pilot of this beautiful Gulfstream jet that I call Astra, she's a G100, uh, unexpectedly lost his job of 13 years when his company called and said, We're getting rid of the flight department and we're selling the airplane. So, May 5th, 2020, a day I'll never forget. I went with him to help him clean out the hangar, get his belongings, and say goodbye to Astra. And I asked him if I could sit inside her one time, and he lit up the instrument panel, and I crawled inside her beautiful leather interior and sat in the passenger compartment, and I started to cry uncontrollably. It was this overwhelming emotion that hit me. It wasn't necessarily his job loss, but it was about the plane. I personified the plane and I thought, what is going to happen to this beautiful Gulf Stream jet when she's sitting all alone in her cold dark hangar day after day, rusting away, wondering where Captain Dan is and why she's not flying. And Dan had this attachment to Astra? Did you I had never even flown in her, but but she was Dan's baby, okay? My husband Dan, Captain Dan. He knew her quirks, her ins and outs, and flew her three to four days a week as far away as Brazil, and he knew everything about her, and he's the one that took care of her day after day. So I

From Tears To A Book Idea

SPEAKER_00

thought she's gonna be really lonely. And I said, What's gonna happen if she just sits here and no one buys her? And Dan said, Well, if someone doesn't start her engines every 28 days, she's gonna be in really bad shape. So I went home that night and I literally came up with this idea that this is a book. And I started writing Astro the Lonely Airplane that night. And I might add that that was my 60th birthday year, and instead of going to Italy, which was our plan, I had a Zoom pizza party in my backyard.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Well, and that was as a result of COVID, right? So we're supposed to go to Italy and then didn't go to Italy because of the world shutting.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So I wrote a children's book. Needless to say, my PR business had slowed down a little bit, and I decided to write this book, and it was never anything I intended to do because as a PR professional, I've probably promoted about 20 authors and launched their book tours over the years, and I knew what hard work it was. And so, but I just jumped in head first, and I've always been really good at rhyming. Even as a child, I've written birthday odes for my friends on their birthdays, and I write them for my clients still, right? So it turned into a rhyming book because that's how my brain works, right? So it's a rhyming picture book.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I love it. So, how has that journey been? I know you've turned it into it's more than one book now.

SPEAKER_00

It is. The challenge, I'll tell you, I had to have a lot of hope because the challenge is getting it published. So you have to have really thick skin, a lot of hope. Um, so the first book, Astro the Lonely Airplane, was actually published, um, it came out in March of 2022 during Write to Read Week. And the second book, Astra in Hollywood, which just won the Hindi's Library's Best Picture Book Award, um, came out two years later in March of 2024. So both books have been extremely popular. And a third book is also written, Astra's Canine Rescue. Um, but I've put that on hold because I've decided that I want to develop a children's animated streaming series. Good for you.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I love the dreaming big. I want to talk about the publishing process a little bit, though, because you understand the PR side of it, right?

Writing In Rhyme And First Steps

Danielle Elliott Smith

Uh, but I imagine when people come to you, they already have that piece taken care of. So was that a learning curve for you?

SPEAKER_00

Definitely. I mean, I seriously Googled um all the literary agents and um publishers that were looking for new children's books. And I must have sent out, I don't know, I'm gonna say 60 or 70 queries. And I kept getting shot down. But as a PR pro, I know that you can't land every story. You know, it only takes that one. And so my my motto was always have hope. It only takes one, someone's gonna fall in love with it. So I was starting to get a bit of discouraged, but in August of 2022, or 2020, I'm sorry, August of 2020, Brandy Lane Publishers got back to me and said, We love your book. And I actually signed with them on August 19th of 2020, which is National Aviation Day, and the same day Captain Dan got a new job. The stars were aligned for both of us that day. I saw it as a destiny, I really did.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Right. Look at everything come together for you. Now, I know that you mentioned to me that hope is your middle name as well.

SPEAKER_00

It is, and you know, the actual book, Astra The Lonely Airplane, is a story of hope. So Astra finds out that she's being sold, and Captain Dan tells her they have to leave the hangar and find a new job. And she's she's a bunch of quirky

Publishing Hurdles And Breakthrough

SPEAKER_00

different people come by and take her for a ride and try to buy her, and they're kind of mean and not very nice to her. One man's really rude, but Astra holds out hope that they're gonna find the right buyer. And at the end of the book, they really do. So it's actually about having hope and resilience and and dealing with difficulties and life challenges that may arise. So for a child, it might be a move to a new town or dealing with a bully. But this book shares that message of having hope and has a happy ending with Astra's new owner when she ends up in her new glitzy Hollywood hangar.

Danielle Elliott Smith

See, what I one of the things that I love about this, so such a departure for you, right? So working in the PR world, one of the pictures that you sent me was you reading to children. What is it like to have a completely different audience? It is so magical.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I partnered locally with Junior Achievement, and they actually were bringing me into area schools where I would read to up to like 800 people, 800 children in an auditorium. And there's no feeling like it. I'm gonna get tears in my eyes because having a child, having your message resonate with them and having them fall in love with Astra and the book is just unbelievable. I must have a thousand pictures of kids holding the airplane. I wear my pilot uniform. I quiz them from the back of the book, which actually has a glossary to see how much they remember. They are like sponges. I say, Does anyone remember how fast Astra can go or how high she can climb? And they remember everything. And if Captain Dan's not flying the friendly skies, he comes with me in his pilot uniform. He's the captain, I'm the first officer. And I'll say, Does anyone have any questions for the author? And they'll ask me a few questions, but then I say, Does anyone have any questions for Captain Dan? Oh my gosh,

Awards, Sequels, And Big Ambitions

SPEAKER_00

the questions are unbelievable.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Like me, me, me. Julie, do you have do you fly?

SPEAKER_00

Do you have your captain's license? I don't. My husband says I'm not equipped for it mentally because my mind races so much and I never I can't compartmentalize because I'm always multitasking. But um you're a right-brained girl like me. I flow with him though. Um, we did join a flight club a few years ago, and um you it's like you pay the dues and you can it's like renting a plane, not owning it. You know, you get the privileges. And we did that for a couple years. We flew around at a little Cessna, but uh Cessna 182. But um we didn't use it enough, so we ended up letting it go. But I have fun with him, not in the corporate jet, but in little Cessna. He's a very good pilot.

Danielle Elliott Smith

So I'm thinking about how beautifully your message resonates well beyond. So it starts with you having to find a different trajectory. COVID, you're turning 60, Captain Dan loses his job, you're worried about Astra, and you're thinking, wait a minute, how do I find a new path? My business is slowing down, and you just sort of stepped into something new. Where does that level of resilience come from in you?

SPEAKER_00

I think from being a PR, a couple of different things. From being a PR professional, I I have determination and grit, and I know, you know, I've gotten shot down by dozens of reporters

Querying, Rejection, And The One Yes

SPEAKER_00

in my career. So I have very thick skin, and I know you just need to keep on plugging until you land the story. Um, backing up, I think it comes way back to when I started my company actually in the year 2000. I literally quit a job in the corporate world and started a PR business. I mean, I worked for years in the advertising and PR business for different agencies and on the client side and also in the media, but I gave myself the courage to do it. I was turning 40 and I told myself I was gonna have my own business by the time I was 40. So I knew I needed to step things up to hit that mark. Um, I landed a client that was willing to let me work 24 hours a week at home on a retainer while I still grew my hourly business. So I that's that's where a lot of my determination came from. I also might add, I got divorced and became a single mom that year. So that really, I really held out hope that things were gonna be better and that I could do it all, and I did. I was a single mom for many years. Um, I grew my business, but I think that's where it all started in 2000 when I kind of knew, you know what, I can do it. I can do anything. I just gotta put my mind to it. I'm gonna get some rejections, but I'm gonna land some big ones too. And that's how I did it.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I'm gonna ask you a question, someone asked me when I was on book tour, and I thought, wow,

Story Themes: Hope And Resilience

Danielle Elliott Smith

that's that's a deep question. What do you hope your kids say about you at the end of the day?

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, um, my my mother, who just passed away last summer, I'm an only child, uh, was very hard. She's my biggest fan, and I will say I dedicated my first book to her, my beautiful mom Sandy, who's always been my biggest fan. But my I have a son, a biological son, and three wonderful bonus kids who I've had for 20 years. Um they're all very proud of me. And in fact, my granddaughter Maddie, who's gonna turn five this summer, absolutely loves, loves, loves the books. I read them to her every time I go to visit. Um, so I think having the grandkids fall in love with your books is even more meaningful. Um, my son, when he was home last November, he came to a big book signing with his fiance. He had never seen me in action, and I was so happy that he actually got to see me with a big crowd doing my thing. You know, he filmed it on his phone, and um, so I know they're very proud. Um they're especially

Reading To Kids And School Visits

SPEAKER_00

proud that after pitching my children's series and um tray- I created a trailer um and a pitch deck to, I would say, I don't know, 50 different animation and production studios. I found one, as I did with my publisher, that actually fell in love with the concept. I thought my pitch deck and trailer were pretty good, but they're redoing it to a professional level that I can never even imagine. And they're gonna start taking it to all the children's programming shows worldwide and actively pitching it to find either a streaming platform that's interested or else a sponsor. So I'm really excited because they love it, they believe in Astra. I had already written in my mind like 25 books, and I thought, you know, I don't have time to publish 25 books in my life that I have left. It takes two years for each one. So I thought if I do an animated series, I can tell all the stories I wanted to tell about Astra and her three new friends that she meets who are all different from her in Hollywood. Lana the Leojet, Helen the helicopter, and Hank the cargo plane. They all have different skills from Astra, but when they work together, this formidable foresome helps to save people, animals, and our planet worldwide.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I love this. I love the way your brain works. And you know it's funny, on my bucket list since I was a child was wanting to uh voice a cartoon, voice an animated series. And it's it just gives me you you continue to give me hope that I can continue to send things out into the universe and and and spiral into some of the things that that I want to do. That's extraordinary. So beyond the series, is there anything else that you want for Astra?

SPEAKER_00

Hmm.

Flying, Family, And Craft

SPEAKER_00

I just want, you know, the series is about leaving a legacy. It's just about leaving something behind, and that's the thing I really want is to leave it, leave this world with a message of positivity and hope. I'm just so sad that my mother passed away last summer before I got this animation company on the hook because she, like I said, she was my biggest fan and she was always talking about it. And she was so excited this summer before she passed. Harrison Ford's agent asked me for the books and I mailed them to him. So she was really excited about that, telling everyone, Harrison Ford, because I I contacted all the agents of people that were pilots, like John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise. I got some nasty emails back threatening to block me, whatever. Wow. Harrison Ford was. A simple no thank you can suffice. And I I couldn't even send the poo emoji or anything because they blocked me. No, I would never do that. But my motto also is kill them with kindness. So if someone's rude to me, then I send them a really nice thank you back. If they don't block me, which that was the only person I think that ever has. But um, so I, you know, that's really what I want. I just want to leave with this message of positivity and hope and have something that children will enjoy and embrace that's that's good, wholesome, non-political, entertainment about helping others and being kind. Really, I mean that's all I want.

Grit From PR And Single Motherhood

Danielle Elliott Smith

Julie, when if you were to sit in front of people, people like you, right, who are in the midst of a a moment when they are thinking, should I pursue a dream that I have tabled? What would you say to them?

SPEAKER_00

Two things. I would say when I after I started my PR company in 2000, which I didn't even know what I can write off, what do I need for a home office? The the first thing I did was hire a small business accountant who who told me how to file my quarterly taxes and took me through everything, is I've probably sat down with, I want to say, at least a dozen entrepreneurs who've come to me trying to start their own consulting business asking me what to do. And I've walked them through everything and I've sent a lot of them to my accountant who's now retired. But I I pride myself that I've always made the time to help other PR professionals or anyone trying to start any type of small business, tell them what they need to do and what they need to be aware of tax-wise, et cetera. Um the other thing I would say is it only takes one yes. So if you're trying to write a book, if you're trying to, I don't know, get a uh a movie, I don't know, create a movie, whatever you're trying to do, start any kind of business, it only takes one yes. Just keep going, keep going. Um, there's gonna be days where you get down, but just tell yourself eventually whatever you're doing is gonna resonate with someone. I mean, I almost didn't read the email from Brandy Lane Publishers. I actually put it aside in my inbox and kept working on other stuff because I was sure it was gonna be another thank you anyway. Um, you're you're very creative, but we're not interested. So I finally read it at the end of the day and started screaming. And I called my mother first to

Legacy, Animation Pitch, And Teamwork

SPEAKER_00

tell her that the book was being published. So um that is amazing. Did they have they published all of your Astro books? They published both of them, and the third book, even though they sent me a contract, I've put it on hold because I'm kind of focusing on the streaming series right now to see where it goes. Okay. Um, I've had to hire an intellectual property attorney and make sure, you know, that I own the illustrations and everything, and and copyright everything, and make sure everything was squared away before I started doing that. So is there a animator that you work with? Do you work with a specific illustrator? Yes. So how it worked is the publisher actually found my illustrator. So when I did the video shoot, the first book comes with a video with a QR code of Captain Dan giving them a tour of the real Astra. Oh, when we did the shoot that day, I went to the hangar and took hundreds of pictures of Astra, the inside, the outside, Captain Dan, the whole bit. So I had those photos on hand. So when it came time to find an illustrator, I sent the photos in a drop box to my publisher, and they sent me some portfolios of people that they've worked with. And um I I just narrowed it down to the three that I like the best. And then we had them do a sketch of Captain Dan and Astra complete with eyes, like to personify her. And Michelle Simpson of Canada nailed it. I cried, I got tears in my eyes and goosebumps. I can still get tears in my eyes because she just nailed it. She nailed Captain Dan, she nailed Astra. Her mannerisms, her sitting alone in the cold dark hangar with bats in her hanger, and she's leaking oil. I mean, she just got it. And um, we I used her for the second book, too, and um, she's she's absolutely wonderful. So if the third book's published, yeah, she's my gal.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Ah definitely questions where is the real astro? Now.

SPEAKER_00

The real Astra actually got sold to a small business company locally, and Dan is not flying her anymore, but I do believe she's still in Cincinnati. Okay. He

Outreach To Pilot Celebrities

SPEAKER_00

now works for a different company. Um, but she's I think she's still here, and I think the company painted her a different color, so I don't even know if I would recognize her anymore.

Danielle Elliott Smith

But how does Captain Dan feel about seeing himself in in cartoon or in animation?

SPEAKER_00

We are so opposite. My left brain Navy pilot, husband, and the PR pro slash author. We are so opposite. He hates being on camera, and he was such a trooper to do the video. I should send you the book so you can watch the video. He did not want to do it at all, but he did it for me, and he protests about having to go to the schools. But he gets up there and he's so good with the kids. And they love him and he loves it. I mean, he's so good with our grandkids. So I mean, he's just great with kids.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I love it. But he gets up. I have my own left-brain husband as well. Um like incredibly brilliant and kind and just good with people, good with kids, but shies away from the spotlight as well.

SPEAKER_00

He hates it. Um, way back in the um when we first got married, he was one of Red Book's hottest husbands in America. I nominated him and he was one of the five finalists, so he was published in the magazine. He hated every minute of it. Had he let me do my PR thing and emailed everyone I know, he would have won. But he got upset with it. Now, if someone nominated me for hottest wife in America, I'd be like, heck yeah. You're like, sign me up. He was on the front page of the tempo section of the Since I Inquire,

Defining Hope And Self Belief

SPEAKER_00

hot, hot husband, right here in Cincinnati. They came and took photos. Anyway, he does not like the camera. Whereas me, I had to do self-promotion for the book. So it was a natural for me, just wind me up and let me go, put me on TV, let me talk about it. Um, you know, I media trained so many of my clients, and um, I worked in local TV.

Danielle Elliott Smith

So you mentioned that in your bio, and one of the things I noted was that you were an extra in Greece.

SPEAKER_00

I was.

Danielle Elliott Smith

I what was that experience like?

SPEAKER_00

I was um so in the summer of 77, um, the movie was shot in California at Venice High School. Um, Alan Carr, who was the producer, actually had a uh brainstorm that he thought that he would run a nationwide contest to find talented teens from all from major cities in the US and fly them out to Hollywood and let them be in the movie. So I was the winner from Cincinnati. Um really. And I got to go out to LA and um I was in the uh the summer night. We were in the summer night scene. Okay, where Livby Newton John is singing outside in the lunchroom at Venice High School, and we're walking by in the background. I'm running my fingers through a friend of mine

Where To Find Julie And Astra

SPEAKER_00

who I've stayed in touch with, Michael Charbonne's hair. He's in Canada, he's a sports commentator now. Um, and then the last day of school scene where Eve Arden um rings the xylophone and says um that school's out for the year and they all run out the door.

Danielle Elliott Smith

It's always been one of my favorite movies. As a matter of fact, when I was a child, I want to say I was seven, I did a pirouette to the end of the movie in our living room and fell and uh split my eye open and ended up with stitches. Oh my gosh! Plotsy, right brain, not athletic. So, but uh always been one of my favorite movies. Not not singing in.

SPEAKER_00

You have a whole scrapbook and um it just and then I had to do an autograph session with um Kelly Ward, who played Putsy here in Cincinnati at Shilto's because they were the sponsor, Federated Department Stores and Paramount were the sponsors, and um had a got a modeling contract with Shilto's and had to model for them for a year, which was a big controversy because I was on the Pogue's teen board at the time and they made me quit because I couldn't do both stores. Anyway, okay, it was a summer I'll never forget, and it came out actually then a year later in 1978. Um, and uh yeah, I I thought that John Travolta would respond to me, but he obviously doesn't monitor his Instagram account.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Well, I was thinking, I mean, with him being a pilot and you being able to say, Hey, I was an extra in one of your original movies with me, and he looks like a fun connection.

SPEAKER_00

You could be Captain Dan, he can voice Captain Dan. I know. Um Julie, how do you define hope? Oh, hope. Hope is never giving up. Never ever. I don't think I've ever quit anything. I've threatened to, I've threatened to, but I haven't. And when I say I'm giving up, I don't really mean it. So resilience, never giving up. I do have a lot of faith. I have to say, I pray a lot. I'm a very big prayer. So um resilience and just never giving up, believe in believing in yourself. You have to believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, it doesn't

Closing Gratitude And Listener Ask

SPEAKER_00

matter what anyone tells you, it has to come from within.

Danielle Elliott Smith

You are definitely a beautiful testament to what it looks like to believe in yourself. I from the moment we first connected, I felt an infectious amount of joy in you and your story. And that is one of the things that I take away from your story of inspiration and resilience and the 2.0 and 3.0 versions of you. So uh it's a delight to talk to you. You too. I'm so excited that you had me.

SPEAKER_00

I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Where can everyone find you and where can they find Astra? Well, my personal Astra website is Astra A S T R A, thelonelyairplane.com, and you could order autograph copies, which I personally sign and ship on there. But there's also free coloring and activity sheets for all ages on there. You can just go and download for your kids on a rainy day. They can also learn the aviation alphabet, which is on there. There's tons of free stuff on there for kids to do. My book is available everywhere that books are sold, including Amazon and Target and anywhere you could think of. It's also at most of the major aviation museums throughout the US. And Hudson Booksellers has it in 37 of their major airports. So you can find it just about anywhere if you just Google Astra the Lonely Airplane. It comes in hardback and softback. That is fantastic. Where can we stay up to date on what happens with the series? Um, the Astrathelonelyairplane.com is probably the best place. Captain Dan is actually my webmaster. Okay. My left brain computer guy. Um, so he's gonna he updates everything as it happens, news stories. For example, this podcast will probably be on there very soon. Um, and that's probably the best place to go. And then people can also email me at Julie at astrothelonelyairplane.com.

Danielle Elliott Smith

Julie, you are true joy. Thank you so much for spending time with me. Is there anything I didn't ask you that you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_00

I think we covered a lot. I really do. I think that's it.

Danielle Elliott Smith

No, you you are fantastic. Thank you so much for spending time with me today. Thanks, Danielle. I can't wait to see it. Absolutely. And friends, thank you for joining us on this episode of Hope Comes to Visit. I so hope that you've been inspired by Julie's story of reinvention and inspired by her willingness to keep going and keep believing in herself. I do appreciate you spending time with both of us. And I so hope that you'll be back, that you'll share this episode, that you'll rate and review. And until we spend time together again, please take very good care of you.

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