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'Building Home Anywhere' with Jimmy
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My dear friend Jimmy came into the bubble — and this one goes places.
His family traded the American dream for a life on foot in Wellington, New Zealand. Fifty-three places and 550-ish daily vlogs later, we're digging into that journey.
We talk about why "I could live here" is worth taking seriously, treating travel as a blueprint instead of an escape, the supper club they're building community around, and why you don't have to wait for a vacation to put joy in an ordinary Tuesday.
Plus the Babble Breakdown Five: a samosa stand in Nepal, the perfect cup of coffee (it's a magic, and he'll die on that hill), and whether aliens are real.
You're welcome in the bubble anytime, Jimmy.
Have you ever seen your neighbor bring in groceries? The answer is no every time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05The man that lives next door to me works at a grocery store, and I've still never seen him bring in groceries.
SPEAKER_03You guys, I'm actually really excited about this episode. Editing it was such a delight. I'm chatting with my friend Jimmy, who is living an intentionally joyful life, and we're just gonna talk about his journey, and it's really incredible. So thank you so much for being here. Oh my gosh, I can't am I really gonna do this? And you know what? It's August, it's officially my birth month, and we're doing a thing. So if you would like to support the podcast, you can find me at Patreon. The username is Love Sherry Lee. That's gonna be the bubble. That's gonna be where we can gather, that's where I can create things and just, you know, babble a bit in between in between these episodes. So um, of course, please keep listening if you just enjoy it. And um yeah, enjoy this conversation. It was it was incredible.
SPEAKER_05So my babble buddy for the day is a man that I am lucky enough to have crossed paths with at one of his happy places. And we connected over the last few years. I got to watch him um live a really intentional, peaceful life, exploring everything that the like the wonders of this life and uh the places on this planet that are wonderful. He calls himself a go global treat eater, but I just get to call him my friend Jimmy. So welcome to the bubble, my dude.
SPEAKER_01Thanks. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_05Of course. I'm so excited to talk to you and to maybe just share with more people because I already talk about you to as many people as I can. I'm already like, have you seen my friend Jimmy on TikTok? He is traveling the world with his family and like you're just you're doing something. Okay, let me slow down. Get excited. I will let you tell the story because it's your story. But for those of you who are used to me over over talking everyone, so Jimmy has taken his family around the world over the last how many months?
SPEAKER_01Uh, like two years, two and a half years, two and a half years.
SPEAKER_05So, like 30, 30-ish months exploring, I would say almost everything there is to see, but somehow not at all. Everything there is to see. And you have found a place to settle for the time being or for however long that may be in Wellington, New Zealand.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So thank you so much for working through time, whatever's, because I still don't know what time it is where you are, even though you've told me a number of times.
SPEAKER_01No, honestly, um, the fact that anytime we talk to someone who actually like makes an attempt at figuring out time zones, we really appreciate it because there's people that we talk to frequently who are like, I have no idea what day what day is it there. And it's like, well, you know, like you could put a uh an app on your home screen of your phone that tells us exact tells you exactly what time it is here.
SPEAKER_05I want you to know that I have that app on my phone screen, but I also don't know how to read it. So I'm trying. I'm trying. But thank you so much. I know it's very early there, so I really appreciate you being up way earlier than I would be up for most people on the planet ever.
SPEAKER_01So of course, I'm happy to. I'm always happy to talk to you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_05So tell me a little bit about kind of like how it started, how you came up with this idea, what was it like to did you to bring that to your wife? Like how what was the beginning?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so probably in 2019, we went on a trip to Australia and New Zealand, and we had just found out that Brooke was pregnant, and I think just really started to recognize that the lifestyle that we wanted and the things that we prioritized were not easily present in US culture, and it was going to be really hard for us to find the lifestyle we wanted without moving to, you know, very specific places in maybe like New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and even though we love all of those cities, just like none of them felt like us. And so from there we had started to explore the idea of moving internationally. Then yeah, we just kind of said that we were like something that a lot of people uh struggle with in big decisions, is like you can plan and plan and plan and plan, but like ultimately you just have to say that you're doing and then start doing it. And so ultimately we, you know, said we're we're gonna go do this. And so, you know, Brooke told her company that um she was planning on leaving, and they were like, you know, wait, we like want you to still be part of the company, like we're going to create this, you know, project management position for you so that you can work remotely and you know overlap most of your hours with us, but like it doesn't need to be completely overlapping. And so originally when we had set out to move, we were thinking like, oh, you know, we'll travel for maybe like six months and then try and settle somewhere. And once Brooke was gonna be working, it was like, well, we don't really need to put a limit on this. And so we just like set out with this idea of when you travel to a new city and you're like, oh my gosh, like I could live here, and wanted to put that to like the practical test of like what does it look like to travel to places with little intent of being a a tourist, but incorporating what your maybe like weekend and day-to-day routines would look like and seeing where it felt like home. And so, you know, we got to do that over the course of two plus years and uh went to 53 countries on the like six main continents, and then at the start of 2025 had really narrowed down to like three to five places that we were interested in living, and so started applying to jobs or applying to schools to figure out where might work. And yeah, by about May, I had gotten into a couple of programs, one in here in Wellington and one in Copenhagen. Timing worked out better for Wellington, plus just like the long-term immigration opportunity felt better here, felt safer here. And so yeah, that's uh how we ended up here. It's been like a hundred days since we moved, and it's been great.
SPEAKER_05I love that. I love that I'm catching you kind of like you're a little subtle, but there's also so much more to like right, like you're still the roots are still growing, and that's like so exciting. So I also feel kind of excited to like touch base with you again and like and like a year from now, and just like yeah, what is what does life look like, you know, fully acclimating to a new space.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05I I had thoughts and I was so excited, but I did a really good job of not interrupting you, so I forgot them. Um thanks, thanks. It was hard actually. So, like, what did first of all, I would like to acknowledge that it is there are so many people say, like, that's my dream. I would love to do that, right? And I would say that what you've done, because also you've done it out loud, you've included your journeys on TikTok and you had at least one viral moment that I remember. What you have done and Brooke has done is you have shown people that like that is so possible. It's really easy for people to just I can never, I have friends who were like, I would love to move to XYZ, but like that'll never happen. And I think that you have done such an amazing job of being an inspiration to people to be like, hey, no, there's a there, you only get one shot at this, and you get to live it exactly how you want. And I also love the way that you say like that just that just wasn't the culture we were looking for, and that's okay. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because when you say, when you say, I'm leaving because of XYZ and it's all bad, right? Like nobody wants to listen. Right. When you do so with joy and with curiosity, and but just kind of an interest for experiencing life, it it opens, I think, more eyes than you realize. That's my hope, at least.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree with you. And honestly, it's a reason why like I've stopped spending a lot of time on social media is that like so much of that content is just about like, oh, this is my life now that I moved here. And it it it's demeaning towards people who have not done that, and like yeah, it just always feels so exciting of people who haven't moved and live where they grew up, which there's plenty of reasons to do that too. There's no inherent good or evil, these decisions, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And also I would like to just interject to say that could also be within your same continent, within the same state. I did move a thousand miles away from home at one point, and that was scary, and there are still moments 20 years later where I'm like, did I really leave all my friends behind? And then I also look at, but I've also made so many friends and I've had so many wonderful experiences. And I would also say that one of the things that I'm really focusing on this year is not using the word but or the idea behind the word but because I think two things can coexist at the exact same time. Yeah, and like they don't always have to negate one another. And I think it's just really important for people to see someone like you who's like, hey, look at look at what opportunities exist. Not even that you have this is an opportunity that exists and you you highlight so many. I also just love the way that you travel because a lot of travel content is big, shiny, flashy. And this is actually gonna lead me to that viral post is you talked about what we are missing culturally in the country that I live in is a third place and community. You say it so beautifully. You highlight just the real life in at the very least 50 places already.
SPEAKER_01I think that a lot of what we found that was missing for us in US was this idea of a third place, or which I think maybe manifests itself a lot in the casual running into people and the casual hanging out where the idea would be that your first and second places are home and work. Those are the places you go to every day, but you need something outside of that. You need a a place where you feel safe and a sense of belonging and have a community there. And for longtime Starbucks workers, that was the that was their original tagline and mission was to become America's third place.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_01It was I didn't know that, and they've obviously gone a different direction, but that that was their original intent was to create these spaces that people felt comfortable coming into and spending a lot of time and seeing the same people. And like you said, the the US is just built culturally on building up your own little mini empire. You get your house and you put your walls around it in the form of a fence, and you drive your car into your garage that's connected to your homes that you never have to see any of your neighbors. And then you leave and you go to the grocery store and you're annoyed with everybody else in there, and so you're trying to get in and out as fast as possible. The environment is overstimulating, so you don't want to slow down in it, and then yeah, you go to work where you spend the majority of your time and have an arm's length relationship with the majority of people you work with, and then you're incentivized to just go back home, and everything about our culture says that you should just go back home and make dinner and be with your family, and uh yeah, it's just so broken, and we see so many people who just feel so alone, and like even now living in a place where that environment is radically different, like there's still people here that struggle to find a community or experience loneliness. There's not an immediate, like universal solve to it, but culturally it builds up around this idea of trying to hang out with someone, it just feels so overwhelming because it takes like weeks and like maybe you get an hour in and you're like, oh, was that really worth the effort of going to dinner with them or grabbing a drink with them real quick? Yeah, it was nice to touch base, but like it doesn't feel like you've built up so many things to talk about that, like you don't actually get to anything meaningful, you're just talking about like random life catch-up things, which you can do with anyone, like you've missed the the depth of that friendship and that interaction. But like here we just we run into someone and it's like, hey, do you want to come over for dinner? And like that just happens so often, like you really can't go much of anywhere. Obviously, like we're on foot and we're in a dense urban environment. And so just as you walk out and about, like you're bound to run into somebody, and then you realize, oh, I've run into the same person at these different places, like we probably have similar interests, we should hang out. And you ask someone to hang out, and they're always keen to, and it's like an immediate first of all, keen is that has to be a New Zealand thing. Keen is a New Zealand thing.
SPEAKER_05I love that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love it. If you ask someone if they want to do something, it's like, yeah, I'm keen.
SPEAKER_05That's so cute. I love how naturally it also came out.
SPEAKER_01Like it's just part of their vocabulary now. The one that I haven't caught on to is reckon. I'm like, that's it. It's like too out there of a word.
SPEAKER_04What does that mean?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I reckon that's true.
SPEAKER_04Hold on, hold on. That's a southern term.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it feels like very old school.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's like that's like deep south, Jimmy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh reckon it that one has not naturally made its way into my vocabulary yet.
SPEAKER_05It's probably too many years of trying to fight it, honestly.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_05That is so funny. I love that. And kind of what I was thinking about a little bit while you were talking is that yes, where I live, our culture is really bad at that. We are really kind of like you said, I always laugh because they they say the simulation theory people say like, have you ever seen your neighbor bring in groceries? The answer is no, every time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05The the man that lives next door to me works at a grocery store, and I've still never seen him bring in groceries. You know what I mean? And so here or where you are, you have the opportunity to you're you're actually living out amongst the people, you're actually experiencing life in a way that has is has gone the way of the dodo bird here. But the other thing that I I was thinking while you were talking about it is like there is something to be said. But also I think that if more people hear about if you're talking about this kind of culture and we're discussing this on a place where other people can hear it, it's a little bit like, hey, how could I create that in my own community here? Because I have only recently found out that I grew up in a small town, like and I lived there, I just didn't know. I grew up in a town that I think the last time I checked, the population was like 10,000 when I was growing up. And it's not a big space, so it can't really change that much.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I moved to a huge town, a huge city, Orlando. It's like a I don't know all the terms. Like earlier you said dense urban, and I was like, the fact that you that comes out of your mouth so naturally, and I am clueless. But like I with a feeling that I loved was you know what? I don't necessarily know the lady on register two at Acme's name in Summers Point, New Jersey. But 20 years later, when I go back, she's still on register two, ringing people in. And and like you pass the same phases, you don't necessarily interact with all of them. And so I think that taking that and it sounds like the culture there is just like, hey, hold on, let me like let me be more aware of my surroundings. And I'm I'm actually that leads me. I'm curious. Do you find that in a culture like you're experiencing now? Hold on, I'm gonna complete my first thought and then I'm gonna change the topics. But yeah, I think that it's really inspiring because if you hear about it, you're like, that's great. And I don't have to travel the world for it, I can also create it here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. That's something that I used to tell people a lot before we started traveling full-time. Was like in the US, there's kind of this culture that your vacation, your holidays are separate from your real life. And we even like push people towards structures that reinforce that, like where yeah, my life is not an all-inclusive resort. Oh, we push people towards going down to these like fancy vacations on the the beach where you just sit around and do nothing and have a waiter and feel like catered to. But like we should treat our travel and our experiencing of new cultures as a way to form routines that ref that we can incorporate into our daily lives when you travel to a new city and you're like, oh my gosh, I could live here. It's like, why could you live there? Yes. What what about it? What about your lifestyle and routine there made you think that you could live there? And how can you incorporate into that into your daily life? Because if that's something you enjoy, and if that's something that felt like it fit into your routine, you can make that a priority for when you're at home. And I think that was what really pushed us over the edge was we were like, you know what, we're gonna start to incorporate the routines of the places that we travel to into our day-to-day life, and that then we just flat out couldn't. Like, we to walk to the one coffee shop in our neighborhood was a mile and a half walk each way in Texas. So half the majority of the year, like it's not an enjoyable weather experience. There's no sidewalks the whole way, and that's when you we hit this point of being like, Yeah, we can try and force our routines into our day-to-day life, or we can go find a a life that actually incorporates those. And yeah, so especially things like that, and trying to have casual meetups with friends, and that just led us to being like, Oh, okay, so we never actually see our friends or talk to them. And like, that's just not what we want. And so I do think it's super healthy for people to be looking at like experiences they have elsewhere, especially like Disney is honestly a great example of this. Like, people love Disney because it is a dense walkable place with easily accessible public transit where you don't have to ever set foot in a car if you don't want to, and then you have everything in your urban environment right around you that you can get to easily. And because of that, like that inherently is a reason why people view it as separate from their daily lives because they don't have anything like that at home.
SPEAKER_05No, but it's like we it's not that concept is not supported. You're weird for seeking it out, you're strange for seeking it out. Yeah, one of my best friends, she travels internationally quite a bit and she stays with us for some time, and she has worked on changing that. And we're we're also when you were talking about the vacation, is like the culture here is delayed satisfaction, delayed gratification, work hard, hard, hard, hard, hard until you can take a little break so that you can come back and work hard again. And recognizing that you can you can put that joy in every single day, you just have to choose it wisely is just something I wish more people would start being attuned to. And and the other thing that I wanted to say is what I love so much about kind of the way that you were saying it is like you and and Brooke are just tuning into the frequency of who you guys want to be as people and not this is just how it's done.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And there's something really, really special about that. I think I feel like authenticity is such a buzzword, but the thing that like makes you go, like, yeah, I'm in the right place right now, I'm doing the right thing right now. I feel so good about X, Y, Z. And I'm just I'm so happy for you and I'm so proud of you. Like all at the same time. I remember when you first started telling me about it, and we had other friends who were like only sad. I I I love you, I mean it. See you later. Have a have the best time. And I had no idea at that point in time how much watching you do that thing would inspire me to do the same. And so yeah, officially thanks for that.
SPEAKER_00That's really special. You're gonna make me cry.
SPEAKER_05That was not my intention. I'm just really just yeah. I feel like not only are you making your life better and Brooke Isla's life better. And listen, I'm talking to you because you are my original friend. Very important for me to say that Rick has probably done at least just as much, if not more work than you on all of this. And so props to her as well. I'm a girls girl. So you're the face, but we know we know who's back there cranking the machine.
SPEAKER_01For sure. Yeah, it maybe a month ago, a guy who followed me was coming through Wellington with his family, and we met up and had a drink and just talked about their travels too. And yeah, like I I didn't share our experience for like the positive reinforcement, but it it's really cool to see how just like this simple way of just telling people how you're living your life, like potentially opens up other people's minds to the idea that like they don't have to stay in the same situation that they're in, that they can do something different too. It's been really cool the moments that have happened where I've gotten to hear about that from people also.
SPEAKER_05That's so cool. And like I'm glad that you hear it because like it was brave, it was so brave. And I think as human beings, we forget. I will say this until I'm blue in the face, but like life is a team sport, and that means so many different things. I have a friend who has an amazing analogy that I'm not gonna butcher because he'll be on here eventually. Like, even just sharing your story is working together with other people, and just the interconnectedness of life is it's it's so hippie, but like I feel like that's the magic of what we have going on on this planet. Like it's really easy to use social media and the ability to throw your voice out into the ether for whatever cause or whatever aggression or whatever frustration you have, and it's easy for people to get caught up in that. And I'm so thankful that there is such a balance in people like you who do the opposite, and you're like, Hey, there's so much good to also be had here, whether it be third places or the ability to walk barefoot in a grocery store, or also just like a little snack from the tiniest little cafe in a town that no one has ever heard of, but that might be somebody's favorite snack someday because they saw it on your post.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I think that is, I don't know, for lack of a better word, like that's magic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And that's that's so neat. I love that. I love that. Okay, so you're you're feeling settled, you're really excited about where you are, you are carving a place on the interweb, which is a global phenomenon where people can also learn an experience about the joys that exist in the world that they never knew about, and also you're accidentally capturing all of this for you and your family.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. My biggest goal in sharing our experience in the form of daily vlogs was that one day, if our kid ever wants to, she can go back and watch the entire experience that she had, and she remembers a ton. She'll look at a picture and know exactly where she was, the environment around it. And there are times where she'll remember things that we ate that we struggle to remember. Oh my gosh, that's so bad. And then we know innately that there's so much about the experience that is just foundational in her now, and we see that I also one day want her to be able to look back at videos and see what it was like to walk around the streets in India or Vietnam or wherever and uh see those experiences that she had. And so that that's how it all started. And uh yeah, I feel like that type of vlog started to go out of style right when I started making them. Uh but it that was like the that was the thing that I wanted to commit to, and so out of 700 something days, I had probably 550 vlogs, and most of the ones I I didn't do were days when we were like back in the the US. And so yeah, one day she will have this catalog to go back to to get to watch back the whole experience if she ever wants to.
SPEAKER_05I love that. That's so cool. And also because of the way that the internet is, and what I'm what I'm kind of learning is something you made four months ago might pop off, and like you almost have this never-ending source of inspiration for people, and I think that's really cool and something you should be proud of.
SPEAKER_01There are like very random posts that will all of a sudden get a a hit of engagement and people will be asking questions on, and it's a nice, oh yeah, like I haven't thought about that day in a long time, and so it's cool to have a reminder to go back and look at the things that we did too.
SPEAKER_05Okay, tell me what you're looking forward to. You're settling in. You are welcome in my bubble, literally anytime to talk about literally anything you want because you are one of my favorite humans. But yeah, like what are you what what are you looking forward to?
SPEAKER_01I'm doing a one-year master's program here, so I'll get done in November. And I have really been enjoying my classes. I've been enjoying the push to learn in an academic way again. A lot of the learning that we do as adults is through books or now through the internet, and you hear someone regurgitate information that they have learned, and you in some way have learned it, but you haven't discovered necessarily the foundation or depth to that knowledge. I've really been enjoying having to go back to academic sources and really invest myself into something to give myself additional knowledge, and it changes the way you think and the way you speak. And I've been enjoying that. I'm really looking forward, I guess one of the biggest things I'm looking forward to is that we're starting a little sopper club. So this weekend, tomorrow we're having some friends over for the first one. And so I'm really excited to be just have a broader purpose in making interesting food and food from around the world and sharing that with people. Because yeah, one of our goals in moving somewhere else was to create deep community with people and really jump into that and opening up our home. The way that we tried to in the States was something that was really important to us. And getting to do that and having people say yes to coming over rather than pushing it off, pushing it off, or you know, yeah, yeah, it's really, really special. One of the biggest differences here is that anytime you hang out with somebody, like you're committed to like minimum three hours. Like you just talk and talk and talk. Like we have not gone over to someone's house or gone out to a bar with someone and hung out with them, even hanging out with them for the first time for like less than three hours. And so it just becomes a deeply rooted part of your day that like when you spend time with people, like you're committing a lot of time to them. And so we're excited to give ourselves an avenue to do that consistently with people too.
SPEAKER_05I think that human connection is a magic that people that is underrated far in a way. I love that. I'm so thrilled for you. Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm so excited to talk to you all the time, anytime. But thank you for coming on. I did find my Babel breakdown. I did good. So, five questions if you're ready. What is a sound, smell, or taste that instantly brings you joy?
SPEAKER_01Okay, maybe one that I experienced recently was Wellington is a super diverse place, and there's a lot of really diverse food. And I just went to this little stand that sells Indian samosas, and just it's just the the oil that they are fried in has a really distinct taste to them that just immediately took me back to eating them in India and Nepal. And that was just something that made me really happy.
SPEAKER_05I can see it on your face. I love that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, like that's one I've experienced recently that like just immediately hit me.
SPEAKER_05And you know what? You can have a lot of them. There doesn't have to just be one. So I like that too. That's awesome. What is your favorite word? Do you have a favorite word?
SPEAKER_01I'll reinforce keen. I've I've been really into keen. I've been keen on keen.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_01I reckon that's a good one.
SPEAKER_05Well done! What is a cur a perfect cup of coffee for you?
SPEAKER_01This is a really loaded question for me because I love coffee. I'm gonna go be a barista in an hour and make a lot of coffees. Okay, so there's this coffee that originally became popular in Melbourne, Australia. It is still very densely popular in Melbourne. You go to other cities in Australia and they don't know what it is. We also very randomly found them in Buenos Aires, Argentina, to be prevalent there, but it's called a magic, and it is a uh double ristretto with milk that is steamed similarly to a flat white, and it really is the perfect cup of coffee. It really is magic, as pretentious as it was for them to name it that. That is the the type of coffee that anytime I'm presented with the opportunity to drink it, I'm going to because it's just perfect.
SPEAKER_05I'm going to I'm gonna go to Melbourne and you're gonna meet me there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And we're gonna have magic coffee together. It's gonna be great. Perfect. I can't I can't wait. Aliens, absolutely or absolutely not.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01One one that they're real, two that they're probably cool, and three that in our lifetimes we will know that we are interacting with them.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I sincerely hope you're correct.
SPEAKER_01I do with how quickly technology is progressing now, I think for sure communication with aliens could be wider spread within the next 50 years.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Last but not least, of course, what is something you would like to be remembered for? Like when somebody's like, you know what, that Jimmy, not a big thing, right? But I would like to I would like for people to remember that I smelled like Coco Chanel and cannabis. So, what is something you would like to be remembered for?
SPEAKER_01I think a lot of people remember me for my laugh, and I I I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_05It is a good one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think that uh if that's like the memory that people have of me in their head, that I was around them and having a positive time and it being a positive experience. I think that's something simple that I would enjoy being remembered by.
SPEAKER_05That's awesome. I love that so much, and I will tell you at the very least, that is how I remember you always.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. Amazing. Thank you.
SPEAKER_05Thank you so much for coming into the bubble. You are welcome anytime, even more fun than I thought it could be.
SPEAKER_01Of course. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_05Anytime, any, anytime.