Closing Opportunity Gaps with AI | Samuel Ogah | #21

What does it really take to build something that matters?

In this episode of Founder Fumbles, Dahmari Taplin sits down with Samuel Ogah — AI Engineer, founder of ZICloud Tech, and creator of the African Innovation and Cultural Center — for a real conversation about purpose, pressure, and persistence in entrepreneurship.

Sam’s journey is rooted in impact. He’s not just building businesses — he’s building systems designed to close opportunity gaps through education, innovation, and automation. But like every founder, the path hasn’t been easy.

In this episode, we go beyond surface-level wins and dive into the real experience of building — the challenges, the self-doubt, the lessons, and the growth that comes with it.

We talk about how Sam got started, the obstacles he’s faced, and what’s helped him stay consistent even when things felt uncertain. From developing new skills to staying mentally locked in, this conversation highlights what it actually takes to keep going.

If you’re an entrepreneur navigating your own journey — trying to stay motivated, build something meaningful, and figure it out along the way — this episode will give you both perspective and fuel.

🎧 Tap in and hear the real story behind the mission.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:18

Welcome to the Founder Fumbles podcast where we go deep into real life entrepreneur struggles and comeback strategies. I'm your host, Damari Taplan, and today we have my boy Sam. Sam, how you say your last name? Uh Ogah. Oga. Sam Oga. Samuel Oga. Okay, so let me tell you about Sam. Sam is a very important, great entrepreneur. So, first of all, he's the founder of African Innovation and Cultural Centers. He is also the founder of Z Cloud Tech. He's an AI engineer and he's an award-winning Colorado entrepreneur. And now he is building systems that close opportunity gaps through education, innovation, and automation. Ladies and gents, my boy Sam. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me here today. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you for coming, man. We this took a lot to schedule tonight. Yeah. So what's been going on with you? How's business? How's life? How's you know, everything?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

It's been going pretty good, and it's been a busy summer. Uh, just with family and just business and everything. We just got into a dashiki festival. We just got it done last week. Uh that was two weeks ago now, and it was very successful. We had about 6,000 people. 6,000? Yes. I missed it. I probably didn't have a ninth annual. Mine years of doing it every year.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

The only time we missed was during COVID. So you hosted that festival all on your own? We do, yes. And you get 9,000 people to come? 6,000. 6,000. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

We do it under the Colorado Innovation.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

That's one of our programs, actually a program. That's beautiful, yo. Yeah, no, congrats on that. Thank you so much. Um, so um uh African Innovation and Cultural Center, that's your business. Correct. What is it about? What you what you do with that?

SPEAKER_00 2:09

The African Innovation and Cultural Center is pretty much focused on how we can help this specific demographic of people. When I moved to Colorado in 2015, I realized there was so much gaps for people of color and just bike. And some of what I saw was I didn't see people having a gathering where they can get together. And that's what gave her to Dashiki. Where I started doing it, like, what it would be so nice to have all these people in one room wearing the African attire and eating the food, dancing to the music, and that's how the whole thing started. So we did Dashiki for five years, and now we have programs. During COVID, we realized that it was not just enough to have Dashiki. People wanted jobs, people wanted mentors, people wanted to have their mental wellness done properly, or have someone talk to their kids. People also wanted to have a business. So we introduced four major programming around what we do. One of them is youth empowerment. Under that initiative. Youth empowerment. Yes. Oh, nice. Youth empowerment, which we had, then we have the business development, we have career development, and then we have the community and cultural center with the Shiki's under. Under each of these programs, we have special projects that we do. And we've served about 30,000 people.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Uh till date.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

So you do this full-time?

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Yes, I do it full-time, and I still, so I'm a pretty busy man, right? You get another business. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Your other business.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

I have our other businesses, Zit, Z Cloud Tech. Yeah, Z Cloud Tech. So Zit or Z Cloud Tech? Both. So we have uh doing business as Z Cloud Tech. We have Doom Business as Zit, we have Zoe Innovation Cloud Technology, all one company, you can call it whatever. So, what's that? The Zit Cloud Tech is a tech company that we started as an initiative to see how we can better train people. When I went into IT a few years ago, my background is heavily in IT. You must have seen that. And I'm also a principal AI and DevOps engineer right now. I have some contracts with uh the Department of Defense.

unknown 4:10

Man.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Yeah. So go ahead. So when I started that going into IT, I realized it was so hard. I had to do some training from India. And I realized that the training I did was horrible. It wasn't well done, it wasn't structured. I did it three times. I didn't understand any of it. I had to go learn on my own on Udemy, take an exam, still didn't understand. So when I got it right, I said, I'm gonna redo it, improve the system, and do it right so people can actually find jobs. So that gave birth to uh Z Cloud Tech. I started from a WhatsApp group. I had three friends that wanted to get into IT. I started training them. It went to 20. At some point, you were 40. That's like, okay, I can't do this alone. What about Mr. Mike, Mr. you know, all Mr. B and C out there that want to get into IT that don't know about me? Why don't we structure it, turn it into a business, add other programs around it? Because I was teaching AWS at the time, which is my specialty. Now we have cybersecurity, we have AI ML, we have DevOps and all of that, and also Scrum Master.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

So what's your what's your uh how do you get all these people together?

SPEAKER_00 5:17

You get 6,000 people together? Correct. So I feel like one of the things is over time, when you're building a brand, over time people get to connect with it. Okay, people get to know what you're doing, people get to see, you know, resonate with that. And our brand has been built from the need of the community. You know, it's not a lot of people doing what we do out here, especially for this demo specific demographic. And you can imagine the first dashiki was just 300 people. We promoted it for two weeks, sold out, and it's been 400. We did it in-house, like an indoor event for five years, because we had no funding. So, this was the first outdoor event? No, for three years now, it's gone outdoor. It's free. 100% free. Yeah, I missed it. We brought a headliner from Nigeria, Femi Kuti.

unknown 6:05

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Yeah, so that was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

So, what you do outside of work, man? You're super busy. Like, do you have time for anything else? Well, I like to travel. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

I travel a lot, and uh I have, you know, I have kids, two kids with one on the way. So I travel, like to spend time with my family, like to read. You know, I'm a creative, so I like to paint and just sometimes go to the movies. So I do have a very tight schedule at the same time. I have time carved out where I just be by myself or have time for family, because it doesn't stop. When you are a founder, it just is always something else coming up, or you're trying to pivot, or you're trying to create a new concept, or trying to improve what you have. So I'm like, okay, we gotta have a life outside of that.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

So it's just a struggle. So you're also a Colorado Award-winning entrepreneur. What award did you win?

SPEAKER_00 7:06

I won the Colorado Award win uh for the year from uh Colorado Technical Association. They gave me the award for Colorado Entrepreneur of the Year. Uh the Colorado Entrepreneur of the Year is focused on someone that has contributed at different aspects, meaning you're contributing in the community, you're contributing to IT, you're contributing in people's life. Okay. So that was what made up what I, you know, I had. It was a pretty tight, you know, uh uh uh category. We had other guys too, very powerful. And uh, you know, I'm happy that I won that category. And uh previous year they also nominated me for emerging technology leader of the country. Emerging technology, yes, that's dope. You know, so so yes, that word was great. Um that was this year.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

So um I see a lot on your uh LinkedIn profile that you always talk about like closing the opportunity gaps. What exactly does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Yeah, closing the opportunity gap to me is just finding room and areas where we see there's a struggle. It could be education. For example, I'll give you a very good example of what we did with our young tech program, which is under our youth empowerment. We realize that a lot of our kids or a lot of the schools do STERM, but what they do cannot be used right now. You have to go to college, meaning there's a curriculum that has to be learned till you graduate. Then maybe you can use it. Things are changing so rapidly that companies are making decisions within two to three days and weeks. And I don't know how relevant some of that knowledge would be. So we reinvent that and now reintroduce doing it right now. So we have our young tech program that teaches you AI, quantum computes, cybersecurity, and all of this. You can do a product from it. All the kids that went through our summer count have an app or an AI chatbot, or they develop something or an application that has security around it. Because we want them to start innovating right now. So that's when I talk about closing the gap. That could be a good opportunity. What about business owners? We have a business accelerator program that helps business owners do it right. We realize that so many business owners in our community do not, they have a business but no structure system. So we started helping them three years ago through our digital equity program where we take few businesses every quarter, take them through the phase of what is it to even own a business? Is your business feasible? Do you have a selling product? Do you have a bank account? It's like a little accelerator. Yes. And they don't have those, but they're running a business, and that's why it doesn't last. You know, people keep closing their doors. So that's what it means, closing the gap, practical examples like I just gave.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Yeah, and just educating people pretty much. I just heard you say that you teach people about cloud computing.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

I'm gonna have to go learn about cloud computing, but what do you think about cloud computing? Because a lot of people always ask me, what is cloud computing? I can't really explain it that good. What is cloud computing to you? What do you think that is? Well, cloud computing is It's a lot. And I know and I know it's hard to explain, but if you can make it as simple, you know, as possible. Let me know what you think.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Uh, cloud computing they really is just the ability for you to have your application. I'll give a very good example for anyone that does not even know anything about cloud. Think about a building or think about your computer that you have. For your computer to run, you need a database, you need your network, you need your server. That's your laptop or your PC. Right, right. What happened was a few years ago, they decided to build a building where this networking database now lives in that building in an unknown location, but because you cannot access it, we call it the cloud. So it's actually a building where we now store your database. We can build your application from that cloud storage. And the good is the fact that it's public. So we have a few public clouds like AWS and all of that. The fact that your pictures, you see apps like you know, I'm sure you've seen iCloud, you've seen where you uh opportunities where people have to like Instagram, all of those are running in the cloud environment. So when I try to illustrate what cloud is, I try to give examples with the applications that we use every day. So as a cloud computing guy, okay, you manage that infrastructure. Okay. You ensure that when you are or Zynga is trying to build an app, I am the guy that's going to make sure the app design comes out right. And that storage space, that server is what is appropriate for you. That way, when someone is using the application, there's no downtime, it's secure, the database works, and there's that low latency. So that's delivery.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

You help people with that. Correct. I'm gonna have to connect with you because I I got some issues, you know, that I need that I need solved for real. Please, you should go. So, what's your background, man? How did you get into all of this stuff?

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Um, you know, defining my why and uh, you know, always takes me back to my early days of where I come from. I'm from Nigeria originally. Uh moved here years ago, you know, lived in London as well, before moving to the US. I came here for my undergrads. It's always been my desire to see how I can do better for myself. I come from a very extensive nuclear family and I have a bunch of relatives as well. So seeing how where I come from and what I had to go through, the fact that I had cousins that had nothing. I was always that one guy that I said, I promised I'm gonna make a difference. How can I be that guy that is helping or building that bridge? So it's always been my desire. So I was looking for a career that gives me that opportunity to do that. And that's where I landed in IT. Okay. You know, on how do I create and stay innovative to ensure that this knowledge and I'm able to help, I'm able to stay creative. But then I have a heart for the community. I always want to give back, I always want to help people. And that's where the community piece came into it. So it's an innovative and community piece. Yeah, you got a big community, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Thank you so much. What what would you say was your uh your like your biggest challenge, you know, building this community and also being an entrepreneur at the same time, you know?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

The biggest challenge when you're building a community is just the setback. And sometimes it's hard to get even people, get the community together. Sometimes it's hard to get that support from your community. Sometimes you feel alone. Like, you know, I had to question my purpose so many times. Like, what am I doing this for again? You know, and that had to take me back to my why. Like, I had a why before I came to where I am, and that is always one. And now my why is also my family, my wife, and those became my purpose, you know, being able to keep pursuing what I do. So it's a lot of challenge, just that loneliness as a business owner starting and not having a lot of people that do what you do. It's it can be challenging, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Didn't you tell me something before that you wanted to do something like connecting like Africans and African Americans?

SPEAKER_00 14:41

I mean, we've done that already. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, we've been able to do that through our platform. We've connected that bridge. Uh, you know, now we're connecting African Americans, Africans by book to opportunities that on a good day they don't have access to.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Okay. Do you get a uh are you doing this all by yourself? Or do you get like a co-founder? Oh, we have a team.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

You got a whole team.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Yes. Of course we got a unique team.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

We have a whole team. Yeah. We have a team of at least seven groups and maybe three contractors, and then on Zit, we have like six, seven.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

So you have a team. I mean, what's your team look like? Do you have like a co-founder or anything like that?

SPEAKER_00 15:19

I wouldn't necessarily have a co-founder, if any, that's my wife. I'm the founder of all of them. I have I have uh potential investors, but most of the intellectual properties owned uh by me. Uh luckily to say I just invested my own and all turned out right. But my team has been doing an amazing work supporting and ensuring this day. I have a board of governors that make sure everything we're doing also is aligned as well.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

So um what I always ask people this question, but what skills would you say you lack as an entrepreneur? You know what I mean? Um, and what you're doing about it?

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Well, one of the skills I struggled with was marketing and being able to define my why and being able to just sell better, especially through doing specific videos. Sales and marketing. Yes. So, and I have the past two years, I have invested a lot on that with just being in different rooms, learning from people, getting mentors that have done well, reading different books. Uh, when you say investing, you mean investing in your education. Correct. Education to become good at sales and marketing. Wow. Being able to sell myself, being able to confidently talk about what I'm doing clearly and not be people get confused about people don't. It's hard to express yourself sometimes. It's very difficult. And when you can do that, you can sell your product, you can convince people to even come to whatever you're doing, just like you got me here. So it's very important, I feel like it's something as a founder you need to have. And nowadays, everybody's on social media. I want to do videos. I don't have to do all the videos, but I am the brand. People want to hear from me sometimes. So I bought a camera, I just totally invested a couple of thousands. Very nice camera. I learned how to use it. I can make videos anytime of the day. And now we're going into whatever I'm gonna say soon, and new things that's coming. So I think I've improved, but I'm still growing. I have a marketing team behind me now.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

You can tell me about the new things that's come now if you want to. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

I mean, we have a podcast that is gonna be launching before the end of the month. We're still getting together. The podcast is focused on business, tech, and community. That is everything. Business, tech, tech, and community. Community.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

Are you gonna break those up? Are you gonna talk about everything?

SPEAKER_00 17:40

And it's gonna be so our audience is gonna be those within that niche. And those we select to be on that podcast, we either you're doing some business or you're in tech or you're creating community impact. I feel like that's very powerful. So we already started a group of that, like a year plus, it's been growing, but we're like, you know what? We need to talk more about what we do. I need to bring you on my podcast to just talk about what you do in the community. You want to talk about what we do, and that helps to keep things going. And we're trying to ensure that we are staying relevant with innovation, we're staying relevant with how information is being disseminated within the community in using social media as a platform. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

No, that's beautiful, man. So uh when you when you're coming out with the podcast, I think maybe our first episode will be September.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

September? Yes, the first one.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Really? That's soon.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Um is it gonna be like online or is it gonna be in person like this, or are you gonna do it?

SPEAKER_00 18:40

It's gonna be in person.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

It's gonna be in person, and we're gonna pretty much pretty much see. We're still trying to decide. I'm trying to get advice from you. Let's be doing it on what days should be post. So I'm still learning. I've involved some friends as well to help me get the right gears to ensure that it's coming out right. The quality of the everything looks good.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

Yeah, I mean, I'm still working, I'm still kind of a newbie. Oh, yeah, I'll be calling you. You at least you're ahead of me.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

I'm sure you watch YouTube. I haven't done that. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

But at least you you get uh learning the camera was was big enough, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

I have two cameras. Yeah, two cameras, I have lights, I just need to get some of the backdrops and I have a space. We have an office space downtown.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

So yeah, that's crazy. Um, no, that's that's great. Um, so have you ever, I know you do a lot, man, and I know it gets really, really, really hard sometimes. Have you ever felt that close to giving up?

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Yes, so many times. In 2017, we had a setback. We, you know, we had issues. We booked an artist to come for the dashiki, the second. Yeah, the second. I thought Dashiki, and he didn't show up. And had to refund people's money, get a bad name, and then we brought another artist, and that one didn't go very well. So it was a mess. I had to go on the under, you know, and stay low uh under the radar for like a few almost a year. You're gonna hide while you're I had to redefine my purpose, I had to find myself. I was like, okay, should I move? I was about to move and be done. Because most of the guys that started this with me, they're gone. Everybody moved. I was the only one left, and I was the person, everybody was pointing their finger at me.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

So it's embarrassing when stuff goes wrong like that, and especially when it's not your fault, it's not it's the worst when it's like I understand. Like, if hey, if I forgot to book someone, yeah, but if you book someone and they didn't show up and it looks bad on you, then everybody was there.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Oh it's not like they didn't everybody was at the venue, and then you're finding out this person is not gonna show up. That's the worst. It's not like a day before the day off, the hour, the time. Let's get him on stage, he's not there. That's worse. So that really uh, you know, was really uh a setback for me, and uh that was also my defining moment where I really had to go back and re just did some thinking and just evaluate what I'm doing. Uh, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

Yeah. So what what what like kept you going? Like instead of quitting, you know what I mean? What kept you like, you know what, I'm still gonna do this, I'm gonna just take a step back for a moment. But what stopped you? What just motivated you to keep going and not stop?

SPEAKER_00 21:29

So one of the things, you know, that kept me going was my why for what I was doing with the community. Uh you know, it wasn't about the artists. It was never about the shiki. Or never about it was about just helping one person and paying it forward and ensuring that everyone around me is empowered with the necessary skills and tools. That requires me to do more to be able to do that. I can't give what I don't have, or sometimes I have to put The right people too. So that was one thing that helped me. And the second thing that helped me is the fact that if you're trying to make a difference, it's not easy. If you're gonna quit, then just don't even try. So I you know, I haven't looked at a few people I follow that do the same thing. It was like, okay, this person, every story I heard, there was a point where I was about to give up, and that was the defining moment. So that got me back into being able to collect my thoughts and kind of refocus. We had to do some changes, and that's where the Colorado. Right. Uh African uh innovation and cultural center came into. That's yeah, it's like, okay, that's more, there's more than just this. So that was some of the moments, some of those building blocks that are coming into play.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

You need that stuff to happen in order for you to grow. Yes. That bad stuff is needed. But that is the correct answer. This has turned into like why podcasts, because that's what, you know, I think if anyone can get a lesson from founder fumbles, you know what I mean? Uh what keeps you going? Most entrepreneurs have the same exact answer. Go start with your why. Go back to your why, why are you doing this? So that is the that's that's beautiful, you know, and I'm glad that you're sticking on to that. Thank you so much. But what is something that you wish you knew earlier, you know? Um, like way when you first started, like what was something like, you know, when you first started your business, if you knew what you knew now, you would start this way.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

I mean, one thing is just doing it right and being diligent. What's doing it right though? What do you mean? Doing it right is sometimes we tend to be in a hurry and be okay. You want this done full fast, you want the money coming in fast. Okay. There's no such thing. I just keep different steps, you still come back to that fundamentals that you miss. So for anyone out there, or things I would do again is doing it right. Don't you don't have to reinvent the wheel all the time. It's hard. Learn from someone that has done it. Get close, build a community around you. You don't have to do it alone like we, some of us did. And now we've learned build a community around you, be in the right audience, have the right mentors, coach. You don't have to even pay if you don't have money. Go on LinkedIn, look for someone, try to see what you can give in return. Because people always think mentorship is about getting. No. Provide a service, provide a solution, and you can even use the opportunity to get someone to mentor you to be relevant as well. So that's what I'll do, different, is just build a system, take your structure, take your time, be right. Doesn't mean you sleep and don't do it. Yeah, taking your time does not mean you take two years. That's what I'm saying. No, taking your time to be a day more. It could be more hours.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Yeah, take your time to do it right. Yes, educate yourself. Yes. And if you can, find a mentor.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yes, be able to take risks. You need to take risks. Everything we've done, we did not know how the outcome is gonna be. When we took that shiki from the building where we used to charge 40 bucks and it was 21 and up to free, we didn't know how we're gonna fund it. We had to find funders, and thanks to my funders that have been sponsoring this event and keeping it going for free. So it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Yeah so um, you know, if everything went right this year, um, or overall, you know, what does that look like for you?

SPEAKER_00 25:32

If everything went right this year, I I think we had set, you know, we have goals that we had set with our impact numbers. Uh, you know, for example, we want to reach more uh middle and high school kids around mental wellness. So if it went right, I'll be happy to see how we can get out there and reach more people.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

We also want to reach more businesses, which we are kind of already doing. We have a cohort coming up, uh, I think in a week or two weeks from now for the digital equity cohort. So I think if that went right, that would be great. And then that podcast starts because I love to talk. You can see. So if that goes right, I think that would be an opportunity to just have the right people sit there and just talk about what we're doing as well and connect the dot. So that's what it looks like, and then maybe get some more funders. That's always funding. Yeah, always look for, you know, and then another thing that's coming new, uh, you told, you know, which is with Zit, you know, we Zit as a company, as a tech company, have sat in, we have two uh market, you know, business model. Our business model is training and service. Training and service. That's what we've been doing. Service in terms of all the training we do, we provide that as service to different organizations that need the cloud architect, that need the DevOps guy to come in and do the work. Hold like a placeholder while they're bringing the real team. But that's gonna change. We're keeping the training because we want to keep important in the community, but then we are going to bring in curriculum. This is the first time ever I'm talking about this. I've not even talked about it, but I'll just probably keep I'll drop some few things before I make the announcement. We're bringing in more, we're gonna focus more on education. Education, integration of the education, AI, and also training teachers. Training teachers. Correct. So exciting. We're gonna become a certificate lance sense provider.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Yes. So that is like one of the most exciting things for me. And then we're expanding to 10 different states, hopefully. So there's a lot of new.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

That is a lot of great stuff. Like you're gonna be able to give people certificates, and you and you also expand into 10 different states. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

That's true. Because we want to, you know, it's a lot of AI, you know, information, a lot of buzzwords, or people even using AI in different schools, but they don't know how to integrate that into their curriculum. For the past three years, that's what we've done with the youth program, was test run there. And we've successfully done it, and now we build our own curriculum from scratch because we couldn't find nothing out there. And what we found is too much for the kid to learn for an adult. So we want to help everyone else provide that service and even build it into their system and then train the teachers. How better can it be? Come on.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Nobody builds anything from scratch anymore. Yes, that's true. Uh AI to start with, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Correct. So, yes, we did, you know. So, so that is, you know, those integration part of it in and also being able to get the teachers to learn some of this so they can teach it right. Yeah, I think it's also a big gap.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

No, man, but I don't know why, but I I trust you to get all of this stuff done. You know what I mean? Um, you've been doing some great stuff, man. Um I'm so happy to have you on this podcast. Thank you so much. Um, but yeah, that's all my questions, bro. So um, before this is over, just let everybody in the audience know like where to find you, like your socials, um, websites or everything, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Okay, well, if you want to learn more about what we're doing in the community, go to www.cacenter.org. We also have social media, one of our social media is called the Dashiki Fest. Another one is called the African Cultural Center. That's our social media. We're on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

And then for the tech side of things, you want to get into tech, you want to get some training done, you want a mentor, you want to find a job. Make sure to go to our website www.zitcloudtech.com. Z-I-T Cloud Tech. Yes. Okay. Uh no, Z-I-C. Oh, Z-I-C. Yes, cloud. Okay. Then say Z-I Cloud Tech. Okay, okay.com. Uh, or just you can find me on LinkedIn as well. Uh and just follow us. We have also the same platforms, uh, Instagram and Facebook. And definitely looking to have conversations with you. Book some free consultation calls. Let's see what how we can help you. Thank you so much.

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I appreciate you, Sam. Man, uh, thank you everyone for joining this episode of Founder Fumbles. If my boy Sam uh inspired you in any way, shape, or form, please, please, please reach out to him. We just I'm gonna put everything in the description. Um, and please, please do not forget to like this video, subscribe to this video, comment to this video, and share this video. That's one of the most important things. So, thank y'all for joining this episode. I'll catch y'all next time. Peace.