Dreams (Part 1)

In this episode Shean asks his dad about dreams. After a deep conversation had with a friend he looks to delve into the conversation hoping to extract the information about the power they have, their significance and possible meanings. The pair lean into the spiritual implication and explore the human element of mystery and intrigue where dreaming is concerned. This conversation is sure to leave you with needed answers, new questions and a deeper understanding of you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Hello everybody and welcome to Yo Pops with me, myself, Sean Williams, and my father. Blessings to you. You love that. You love that little thing. It's been a little minute, and we're super excited to be back with you all. My dad's been off gallivanting. That's why we've had to wait so long. Not really gallivanting, he's been hard at work. Actually, going through a season of a lot of bereavement at the moment.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

The last two months has felt quite intense.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

It has been in this space, to be fair.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

It has been indeed. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:58

I am good, and uh yes, I am good. I'm very excited about getting back to what we love doing lesbians for a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Um we've been we've been a little bit busy, but the good thing is that we've obviously been ahead of time.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Can you just tell everyone that I was getting out of gallivanting?

SPEAKER_01 1:17

But it doesn't mean that content hasn't been gone, it just means that I was able to plan ahead of your gallivanting, make sure that I could keep the consistency of product so that when you finished running around and doing whatever you're doing, that we could still come back and get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I was serving the community.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yes, yes, yes, you were, Dad. Serving the community, but cheers, everybody. As you can see, we've got our Yo Pops mugs. Dad, give me a little cheers. Cheers, well done, well done. Um, you can also order these soon. Give us till the summer, um, and you'll be able to go on our online platforms. And actually, it could be quite a nice giveaway to people. I would think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

We'll do some Yo Pops. I think those, I think those who are supporting YoPop, I think it would be nice to send them something to remind them.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

I'll tell you what we'll do. We will we because we can look at that for our analytics, we will take all the names, we'll put it in a hat, yeah, and then I'll get you to draw three names at random. That would say. And then we'll contact we'll contact those wonderful people. Great idea.

unknown 2:20

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

Yes, yes, I think so. I think something has happened. Something has happened.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

How do you mean the ideas are flowing?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

I've always been an ideas guy, dad.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

So that's the creative mind.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

There you go. There you go. Um, I'm super excited to get into today's episode. Um, I had a very interesting experience um last week. We were putting out some content and product from our previous discussion. Um, and I don't know if you can recall, I spoke to you about a man that I'd seen in Starbucks. Correct. And I was I was very, I don't know, my spirit had just decided to hold him in its processing form. And remember, I said to you, I didn't say anything, I didn't do anything. I felt like I should have maybe gone and introduced myself. And you'd actually said to me, like, you actually missed an opportunity there. Yeah, you missed a massive opportunity to go and impact that person in real time. Um, and you mentioned very briefly about dreams and how people dream and so on and so forth, that the response I had from people was crazy. People talking about, oh my gosh, sometimes I dream and I can't remember. How do I remember? Other than like, I dreamt something and I don't know what it means, how do I figure it out? And then other people talking to me about I suffer from night terrors and sometimes I'm afraid to go to sleep, and then other people talking about sleep paralysis. It was it was interesting to me because I don't suffer from nightmares, right? Um, I don't really suffer from night like sleep paralysis unless I'm creating, right? And at that point I'm so just excited about what I'm doing, I don't want to sleep. Um, I do think, Dad, that I have dreams that I don't remember because sometimes I'll be like, oh, yeah, I think I dreamt last night, but I can't remember or um put my finger on what happened. So I've set some questions, Dad, that I want to talk to you about, and we're gonna um touch on today. And the first question I wanted to ask where did dreams come from?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Okay, um, dream comes from one, your environment, it comes from the spirit, and um it comes from you as a person, okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

These are the basic area of dreams. So you just um identified three spaces there. You said that dreams primarily come from A, our environment, B, our spirit, yeah, and C, what was the last one you said? Yourself. Ourself. So, in terms of just breaking that open a little bit more, when you say um a person's environment, how do you mean so most people are affected by the activities that's going on in their everyday um life?

SPEAKER_00 5:20

So if you want to say, for example, people who find themselves being traumatized with what we commonly call nightmares, is oftentimes based on what they've been engaging in. Wow. You know, I mean, for example, children would be engaging in horrible movies and anything that, you know, while the mind, while you're awake, the mind can uh can um work with it. But when you're asleeping, then a different process takes over, and you know, you're bringing back, it's like regurgitating what you um have been exposing yourself to, and that's where a lot of people um get nightmares.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

So even let's say, for example, um the horrific situation going on in Gaza, would it be normal to think that a lot of those children would be traumatized, yes, and or even now they'll be dreaming of bombs, yes and constantly.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Okay, yeah, and that is why um in a lot of cases you there those would be they would be recommended to have some kind of a psychotherapy to help them um get get over it or to deal with it from the subconscious because things like that can impact a person not only consciously but subconsciously. And it's what oftentimes carries on or follow people for a considerable period of time in the man because they're turning up things from their subconscious, so that is really what is happening, so that can lead to all kinds of emotional, in this case, nightmares and dreams that people are being traumatized by.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

The next place you said that we dream from is um our spirit. Our spirits, yes. So when you said our spirit, that is our human um consciousness. So again, all of us are engaged in activities. Now, the one I've just mentioned is the one that sort of mainly to do with what you expose, what environment you're exposed to. But humanly, um from a human perspective, you can just go in about your everyday life, and then that can trigger dreams from your aspiration, from your desires, and um yeah, you can you can have it from that.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Um that basis then, would it then maybe not be so much in the basis you said from our spirit, but rather our soul?

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Well, your spirit and and your soul are basically in the same place. Okay, is that I mean so your soul largely deals with your environment and your senses. So your conscious thinking. Absolutely. So the things that your senses are engaged in, is I mean, can trigger uh dreams based on your aspiration. So, in other words, if you say, for example, you want um a certain career or you want to go to certain places, you're beginning to focus your mind. You're looking at pictures, for example, you're looking at how you can get to that thing that you're aspiring to, and therefore that can trigger dreams in both positive and negative.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

So then would it be safe to say then that the spirit is almost it's the heart of the mind?

SPEAKER_00 9:16

It is the heart, it is basically it is the um, you see, human beings are tripartite.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Well, to their body, soul, and spirit. So it is so when you have when you have that, for most people their their spirit is not activated. Um, so therefore they mainly rely on their soul. Right. You get what I mean, which it's feed from the senses, and the senses feed from the environment. Okay, when your spirit is activated, then it takes you to a higher level of functionality, and that is where you connect with God. Does it mean? So that's why the Bible said, and you are the quicken, Ephesians chapter 2 and verse 1, and you are the quicken who were dead in trespasses and sense. In other words, you were never living by your spirit realm, you're living purely from your physical mental. Sensory world. Yes, yes, your mental capacity. Okay, but when you are connected to um when your spirit becomes alive or become reintegrated, integrated again, then you are now moving and operating on a higher level, which is where the God factor comes in. So it is so through that spirit level, God can in turn send you vision that is for both now and the future, okay, which borders on the prophetics.

unknown 10:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

So you're using a lot of words that people may not be um completely um tuned into. So when you speak about the prophetic, yeah, a prophetic word is a word that comes to you before something happens to either prepare you or speak over you what is going to be that has not yet happened. That is that is correct. Okay, cool. That is correct. You said that the last place that dreams come from, um, you said our environment, our spirit, and ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

Yeah. So yourselves is to do with your soul, which we just sort of um explain perhaps in a roundabout way.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

But if you want to lean into it a little bit more because you leant more into um your spirit, so then lots of people won't be able to differentiate between their soul and their spirit. Now you began to lean into it where you said your soul is your conscious mind, it is how you your sensory palate detects all of the information from the environment around you, which is external, yeah, and then it feeds it into your mind, let's say. That's right, and then obviously you then act upon that. So now when you're talking about your self, are you now talking then more primarily about your soul or talking about your spirit? Your soul.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Okay, cool. Your soul, because um majority of people who are not exercising their spirit, as it were, they're they're the hundred percent. In fact, yeah, I would say that is on their soul.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Okay, so can in a roundabout way, is it okay then? Can you move into talking about it coming from your spirit then? Because I think what you did was the last explanation was more so about one soul. Yeah, and then now obviously we can talk about it maybe being spirit-centered.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

If that does that make sense, well, there has to be a separation, yeah. And most people do not acknowledge those three separations, okay? So they don't acknowledge that there's a physical world that connects them to their environment. There is a soul that is self-centered. It's all about you. It's that which stops you from climbing onto a roof and decide to fly because your consciousness is aware that if you do it, you may just not fly again.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

And then your spirit is what brings you into the divine aspect of your being.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

So to concisely put that together, your body gives you world consciousness through your sensory detection. Touch, smell, sight, feel, hearing.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Your soul gives you self-consciousness because it's how your mind regulates how you feel through your emotions and your will. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

And then you were saying that your spirit nice what connects you to God. Got you. So you get your information from God, and it's what helped to make you what God intended in the first place for you to be made in his image and likeness. So, so when you then uh are dealing with God, then he deals with you through dreams as well, and it it merges on the ability to see the present and the future. And um you know, and if you were to go biblically, you'll have something like Joel 2, 28, where where God told him that in the last days, then he will people will become more spiritually aware. And so he would send them dreams and visions as to what is happening. See, so so that's what you so that's what you have. So when a person has a dream, they need to ascertain in what realm is that dream.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

So that they're either having a dream because it's been environmentally executed, self-centeredly executed, or it's been spiritually executed. Correct. So would you say that depending on where your daily investment is, that will determine the type of dreams that you're gonna be experiencing?

SPEAKER_00 15:12

It would do, unless God wants to take you beyond your physical daily activity into the supernatural, that's when he would show you things that is gonna come to pass that has not yet myself known. In so you can be in preparation for that.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Okay, all right. Let me pull that back just a little bit. Now, if you are engaging in an active spiritual walk and relationship, would that not just be a byproduct? So are you trying to say that there are then two versions of dreaming that you do on a spiritual level?

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Yeah. This the spiritual level says it's mainly to do with God's intervention into your life. If you're gonna do do it in the self, are you gonna be in the soul realm? Then, of course, from your daily activities, then dreams can be triggered from that perspective. That is why sometimes you don't remember what you dream, because it depends on how much it impacts you. Doesn't mean how much it's relevant to your activities now and in the future. So a lot of people are dreaming. People always dream, but the problem is that most don't remember when they're wait when they wake up, unless they have something very traumatic, empathic, that really sits with them, or even something relevant to their self-preservation, then they would remember. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Now forgive me because I want to make sure that we're as clear as possible about what we're speaking about and what we're saying. Now, I semi-lost you when you said that it's almost like you said that your spiritual dreams can be impacted by what you're doing on a self-centered way, which kind of I lost. Yeah, we think that again. So it's almost like what it appeared that you were saying is that your how you dream spiritually can either be affected from what you're feeding into yourself from a soul realm, or God is gonna send you a message of intervention or what's to come. Now, just based on what you were explaining before, I would have followed the root pattern that let's say I'm worrying about something, right? Okay, and that is purely within my my mental capacity in my mind. I'm worrying about something that's gonna come. Um, and let's say that now I will dream about that thing that I'm worrying about. Now, are you saying that because of that, that God will then give me a dream to deal with that, or are you saying that that there is something completely different, and I'll dream that, whatever that scenario is, and then I may be granted another dream that will either answer that or deal with that.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yeah, that is what so what I'm saying is that, and to really understand dream, then one has to keep those three elements separate. Namely, what comes from your environment, um, mental, emotional, what comes from you, that's right, and then what comes from the spirit. Got you. Now, in either cases, God has that sovereign ability to override any situation, right? But we are dealing with the norm. So, in the norm, a person sitting down, for example, watching some of these graphic, gory, horrible stuff, you see, that will impact them, and that's where, as I said, depending on the situation that people experience, it brings what we would call nightmare. You get me? You see, that's because you're feeding the imagination, and the imagination has no limit to what it can conjure up. So if you imagine you're feeding your imagination about something horrible, let's say, you know, um I think they got a film called The Night of the Dam. You get what I mean? I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Which absolutely frightens me as to what you're watching. I'm not able to quote such a movie about the night of the movie. Don't lose your point of view. You know, I don't I don't watch horror movies. No, that's why you don't have nightmares. And before bed, I refuse to watch anything dark. That's why you don't have uh nightmares. Because, and let me can I give you like a context as to why I don't do it? Yeah, I feel like the imagination is a child that's just come from a buffet, and then they come in the door, and instead of give me a coat, go upstairs, go hang out, you're like, come and sit at the table to eat a 10-course meal. So if I'm already full, yeah, and then I go and eat more, dad, I'm gonna puke everywhere. Right, and I sometimes feel that this is, and I've had a couple conversations with friends and you know, people that I know really well, and dad, I sometimes put the phone on mute because they're like, oh, how was your night? Oh, I had a terrible night. Why? Oh, I was having some really weird dreams, and I can remember what they told me they watched that. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

And when you turn around and go, you know that stuff you're watching last night, they cannot see it, you know. And this is where people have problems. So because nobody well takes the time or they don't seek to get information to understand themselves, you see, you see, that imagination is so powerful. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's in principle unlimited, it is that which takes you. Outside of the limitation of life around you into the unlimited scope of life.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Do you know why what you said I think is so powerful, Dad? Because as a child, there was this game called the Etchasketch, and it was a blank, like digital screen with two knobs, and it with these knobs you could draw, and you could also, with these knobs, get rid of everything that you draw. And Dad, I sometimes sit there and I think that our imagination is the etch a sketch that God has put inside us. Yes. So that at any point He can sit there and go, I want to show you what's next.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

And then we're in there, Dadgo, with our own little Yes, exactly. And this is why your environment is so critical to what you create and what and what and what you do. Because it is that creative element. Now, if I can just from a biblical perspective, if you remember the story of um Tower of Babel. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Now, what would make a god firstly, before you say that, can I give context to the Tower of Babel? Because there may be people watching that just like the Tower of Babel. So the Tower of Babel was um a monument in the time of Noah's genealogy because we understand that the king in that time was actually Noah's grandson. That's right. Nimrod. Um and we all know that Noah was one of eight that was saved from a cataclysmic flood that God used to basically wipe out the earth because there was so much wickedness going on. I always think it's important to note that Nimrod would have grown up with stories of the flood. Absolutely. And that would have been very traumatic because the only person that knew what was going on was Noah. Yeah. The rest of his family had to trust that this alcohol-loving man hadn't had too much. Daniel was a night before, Dad. Do you understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Because I think sometimes, especially when I read the Bible, now I'm older, I read it with more humanity and reality, Dad, because these people are no different from us. Of course. So we we get on and we understand that the world is in a state of unity, and Nimrod is like we are going to build ourselves a tower that is going to reach heaven. And the basis will be that should there ever be another one, another flood. Now, Warren, Dad, and also I think it's important we know, God had promised Nimrod's grandfather, I'll never do this again at that moment. Which also lets you know Nimrod didn't trust the God of his grandfather. No, no, he didn't. So Nimrod gets everybody together and they build this tower. Dad, please now take over. I think I've got everybody up to speed.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

And um they were making amazing progress.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

And to the point God himself, dad, was like, I'm gonna go down and see what Nimrod does.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

That's exactly the point. So now having seen, now one of the bases of his coming was that he reiterated that if he allows it to continue. He God that if he Gods them to continue to build, there's nothing that they will be able to do. Because of the unity, the power of unity. That they won't um achieve. Because their imagination was now so bruised that they'll you know, incredible thing they can they can think of. Now, for that to move God to change the whole language situation so as not to violate their will, you know, I mean, shows the power of the imagination. So go back to what we were saying, that the things that people watch absorb, you see, I mean, triggers imagination, and that's why as you go through life, you see more fantastic things, either to the negative or to the positive, taking place, whether it is in the aircraft that the people fly, from the ones that the army uses to the Boeing 7 for 7, you know, so you have that, and depending on what environment you're exposed to, as to where your imagination is going to drive you. So when, given the fact that every person has their machines, it's how they use it, yeah. How they what they expose themselves to. And so for those who expose themselves to things that they haven't got the car, they are not at the place to monitor, to to regulate, rather, to regulate properly, it takes over. So when it gets there, they can't handle it, then it becomes fear. And that's where when people say they have nightmare, for example, you'll have them running away from things and trying desperately to get away, and sometimes it translates into the physical. You hear wife said husband kicked them, you know, in when they were having a nightmare or a pendulum, isn't it? Because it's so it's so graphic, it's physical. You can feel it, that it comes into the physical. So that's what that's what you um you're having.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Dad, I want to ask you another question, but before I do, I had a really amazing insight as you were speaking about first thing. You said God came down to look at what they were doing, and you said that their imagination was it was free, yeah, right. Um now we understand that Sodom and Gomorrah fell into the judgment they did because their imagination had just gone. Yeah. And it's funny because as you were talking, I looked and I went, God had to stunt their now to prevent their next. And I've never sat there and thought, whilst I'm obsessed with this great tower, God could see what he was gonna do next day. Yes. And it's almost like he sat there and went, if I don't go and stop and and let because if I let him get into what he's gonna do next, after he's built a tower that touches heaven, Dad, you're not gonna be like, well, fact actually, we might as well just go to heaven.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Yeah, we're risking the same thing right now with the the space, the space programme. How do you feel about Musk and Trump, Dad?