Charlie Kirk

“When we lose our humanity we become less than the very least God intended for us to be.”

S. Williams

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:17

Hello everybody and welcome to Yo Pops Podcast with me, Sean Williams and my dad.

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Hello.

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We are coming for you, fake people. And he's way more merciful than I am. So if I catch you.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Anyway, dad, how are you? Very, very good. How's your week been? My week has been very busy. I hear you.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Um, but productive. How are you feeling about obviously the season starting to change? You can feel the windows.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Very, very um sad. Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Why? Because I love the sun. And I love waking up to a warm, bright morning.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Yeah.

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I do.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Me, I'm actually really looking forward to the winter. Yeah, because you're a winter baby. Baby, yeah, 100%. I love it. There is something about it's the regeneration through the breaking down of the old. Okay. So I like, especially in my garden, lots of leaves are falling. But I I've got this like amazing what it's like a leaf blower and a leaf sucker. So I go in there, I'm just like, and I'm I'm a bit childish in some of my things I like. So it makes me feel quite happy. But more than that, it's watching. We've got big conifer trees in the back garden. Um, and we've got a couple other like shrubby type of trees. Um, and when you see them become bare after being so green, yeah and full, yeah, and sometimes I stare in amazement because I'm just like, you were so like you're so bright and big, and and then you see it reduced almost to nothing for it to then after the period come back into something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

And then it really reflects the circles of life, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 2:35

It does, Dad.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

It really does.

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The seasons and the transitions and stuff. Even in nature, the the law written into it, it's not linear, right? It's not the same, right? And I think sometimes it's human.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

And whether you're whether you're ready or not, it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

That I really like about it. Yeah, yeah. That's the best thing about it. Um, Dad, I want to get into today's topic because it's it's quite um well, it's happening now. Um, I think it's affected a lot of people differently, but by and large it's kind of asked the same questions of everyone. Um now, for those obviously watching at home that will be aware of this, and obviously just for the sake of our conversation, um we tragically saw the assassination of Charlie Kirk in real time. Um now I'd like to add this premise that whilst I understand the intention of what he was trying to do, and I think what his his his motive for being was, I do think that there was certain aspects of his expression was compromised because I think, and this is just me personally, fundamentally, you cannot marry faith and politics. Um, and the reason I say that is because obviously Charlie Kirk, um, to the best of the knowledge that we have, was a Christian believing. Um whilst I understand a lot of the premises that he was building his arguments upon, I'm also aware that his primary model in what he was trying to do as a Christian believer is Jesus. And one of the things that we're very aware of, and the scripture helps us to understand, Jesus didn't really get involved in politics. Um, a lot of the time, the people of the time and the region they thought he was coming to overthrow the Roman government that had besieged the Jewish people, um, and they were living under Roman rule. And every time they tried to trap him, he was just like, Well, my firstly, my kingdom's not of this earth, that's right. And secondly, he would say, Give to Caesar what's Caesar's, and give to God what is God's. And so, in terms of obviously my own personal understanding and thought process where Charlie Kirk was concerned, I can live in between the space of understanding what he meant, whilst also being able to take into account what he did, and sometimes some of what he said was inflammatory. But that doesn't negate taking a person's life. Right. Um, and so obviously, I do want to ask you like just your thoughts on it, because I also have some questions. Um, but I want to get into what I think is the humanity of like the situation and the tragic episode. Um first question I want to ask you, Dad, what were your thoughts when you first heard about what happened?

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Okay, um, before I start, let me once let me say to the family um our condolences, yeah. And uh, of course, we understand the grief that the family would be going through, yeah, especially our children and um parents, etc. Not to mention his wife. Um, so yes, our thoughts and prayers are with you. Uh regarding the situation, it was clearly shocking um the way it was done. And as you already said, it was in real time that this um happened, and it sort of flags up a lot of um issues that I feel oftentimes are ignored until something tragic like this happens, then it sort of brings people to a certain level of consciousness, but it is indicative of what's going on today in the world. And um I felt that it did not reflect what humanity is really and should be about. What we were creating. Yeah, indeed. Yeah, and it so easily could lead so many who are not grounded in faith or in human decency to see things from a very radical perspective.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Yeah, I completely agree. Um, Dad, my first question is, and and it concerns the family, which I thought it was really beautiful that you kind of the first thing you did was you lent into the family and and those um, you know, connected um in the collateral sense. Dad, and this is gonna be the hardest question. And I I'm kind of asking this to you, not only as my dad, but also as my pastor, right? And as a pastor, um, because I sometimes think in moments like these, it's spiritual leaders that kind of have this freedom of movement to talk about the real. Yeah, only your pastor's gonna tell you, like, stop crying, suck it up. And we're not saying that at all. We're not saying that at all. But in terms of the position that you hold and the wisdom that's just evident, I think there's some stuff we can tackle. The first question that I wanted to ask was his wife and those boys, then how do they begin to pick up the pieces?

SPEAKER_00 8:27

I think one of the first things that one has to do is to acknowledge the reality of the situation, and that is it's going to reflect loss, it's going to reflect pain, is going to really impact what they think about their future and the role that he played in their lives. It is acknowledging that in the first instance and recognize that yes, we have suffered and are suffering loss. So once one comes to terms with that, then one can begin to readjust their lives to reflect the situation that they now find themselves in. And when I listened to his wife, and she was immediately um saying what she plans to do and is going to continue doing in uh reflecting the work that he has started. That that I felt is a good indication, as long as it's not being done out of anger, hatred, and bitterness. Right. Because sometimes those can be fueled to perpetual to go and do things um which can be counterproductive.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

How does she make sure that those elements don't contaminate the well bad?

SPEAKER_00 10:18

I think she has to number one look at the good in what he was in what he was trying to do. I mean, of course, there may be elements that others may not share, and um and in her case, she has to really focus on the and the real good that he were trying to achieve and um pick up right there. You get what I mean, rather than to use it, as it says, as a means to excel other areas that does not bring reconciliation or um or bring people together from, especially from a godly perspective. Yeah. I think that's really important. That's where her challenge is is going to be. Now, he's clearly well connected. And if she were to play her card right, then his legacy could be, could outstrip anything that he may himself may even have intended. Um, because the fact that the world, well I said the world, I'm talking about those who are familiar with the situation, those who are in a circle, would they everybody is going to be putting out the best to not only immortalize his memory, you know what I mean? But to help help help the vision and above all to continue the legacy so that his children coming up can feel that yes, their father did not die in vain.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Um Dad, what does this say about the world?

SPEAKER_00 12:09

I think in general, it really shows that the world is in a very difficult transition at this particular moment. It really is. And um it really challenges the narrative that oftentimes come across as a world that is good because it isn't. It's a very complex world, and the complexity leads into a lot of division and strife that affects everyone, politically, religiously, socially, even the environment, you know me, this seems to be impacting. So, yes, so it is something that one cannot ignore that the world is in this state and people are crying out for answers. Um, they really are, but many are not seeing it, and that's where a lot of people are taking things into their own hands. Even those who are not fully understanding the complexities just feel that they need to do something, and they're gonna do it however the emotion pushed them to doing it, and that is why you see so many upheaval going on around the world, politically and socially. You know, you look at most major cities are encountering a lot of protest, yeah, people are getting out on the street, and you're seeing a lot of people's ideology being manifested in different, different ways, and you can't help but wonder how long before it becomes extreme, where it's not just one person shooting another person, but where everybody taking up some kind of arms to defend themselves or to defend their general principles and ideas.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Do you think that we have normalized radicalism? And let me give this let me give this context. Many of the games that my students would play are military combat games of an extremely graphic nature. People now through console and gaming are able to speak to one another, strangers, yes, complete strangers. But they then use the characters that they are through the games that they're playing to go and exact the type of retribution or judgment that now most people say, well, I wouldn't do this in real life, but the reality is the things that we think are the basis of our ideas of self, of how we govern self, of how we feel we should be dealt with, so on and so forth. So if you're consistently playing these types of virtual simulations, then and I can only talk for myself, that I've watched games like Halo, Call of Duty, and other games, and you can shoot a person in the head, right? And it will simulate what would happen in that space. I can fully tell you that when I saw the video of um Charlie Kirk's assassination, whilst I was absolutely shocked that this could happen, firstly, on a university campus in a place like Utah. Yeah. Now, Utah historically is a massive Mormon-centered um type of space. Now, obviously, you know, society and places they develop, so on and so forth, but especially the way America is done. I always try and explain this to people when I speak about this. The best way to understand America is to look at America like Europe. And when you hear the state of New York and Texas, I want you to think of countries, not cities. Because I think we kind of in our head we look at America and go, oh no, no, America's a big country. These are all the cities. No, no, no, no, no, no. America is a continent. Yes, and these states are countries, and within these countries, you have cities. Because I think sometimes, well, why is that law different to that? And that's the same. It's because it's not one thing governs all. You've got these little kings who are called governors, yeah, who then come to create uh what we call the Senate, and we're now seeing it happen here in England because the European Parliament is becoming far more powerful than individual countries' parliaments, right? And their governmental systems. So I say that to say, with all of these types of um, what's the word that I'm looking for? With all of these types of graphic simulations and images that kids can watch and see. Dad, when I watched, like I said, the assassination of Charlie Kerr, there was the, oh my gosh, I can't believe this happened, where it happened, how it happened. A university campus is not going to be without cameras. For a man that they're touting to be the next president, potentially of the United States, Dad, months ago you had the president in a similar situation, right? And we can say that through a miracle, he he was able to escape that situation, and then now you have a young person who you're backing to be to walk in the same footsteps, right? You've also got the prior information of what happened to the president. Yes. This is also a man that has access to the White House whenever he wanted it, Dad. To me, there are so many parts of this situation that it doesn't make sense to me, Dad. And I'm just talking, I'm a civilian. Yeah. So if I'm a civilian and I'd like, well, if I was in that situation, I'd like, have we checked A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. We're not here to discuss that. But what I am asking is, have we radicalized, have we normalized radicalism?

SPEAKER_00 19:16

I think um one wouldn't say you intentionally have done that, but in practice they have done. And um, based on the examples you've given, yeah, it is practice that becomes perfect.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

And so when you have children practicing this kind of radical behavior, um it they grew up, yeah. With that that now characterize their own their own inner man, uh their own personality. So you look at somebody like that young man, he's pretty young, I understand, and you're asking the question in a family, a mother and father, and other others around him, how would he have come to develop such extremity to plot plan because he thinks somebody is saying something against his ideology, his way of living and thinking and being indeed that okay the solution is not to debate or to discuss, is to eliminate. And you find these things in these kind of cyber environments where there is no practical or logical discussion, it is how much violence you can perpetrate against what is considered to be your opponent. Yeah, you know, and people are taking it from cyberspace, as it were, into the real life around. And unfortunately, in the interests of greed, society is allowing it. Wow. So rather than examine what are being produced and asking what impact it's having on the young minds, oh, it's making billions. So therefore, it's all right, um, just let it slide. So so so people are more radical in their thinking than people who care to admit. Um because it's the the danger is not just to try to correct something, it's to leave something uncorrected. Yeah. And and that is what What people are now experiencing in every area, you know, from a child is born, the parents knowingly that what is on the various social media, uh, various uh program is not in the interests of morality. No. You know what I mean? But they will just simply leave their young child to be exposed to all kinds of extreme things by people of different age, different mindset. And the only time it seems to draw their attention to it is when something as desperate as this happens. Then everyone will look back for a couple of weeks and say, oh, well, you know, we should get rid of the guns, we should um don't allow our children to be exposed to this kind of stuff. But then it doesn't last long. It wears off, and everybody gets back to the to their to their life and see it as known. So it's easy for society to embrace radicalism without being specifically targeting or saying, okay, look, we're gonna be radical, you know, but just don't do nothing about it. Know it's happening, but just don't do anything about it.

SPEAKER_03 23:29

What would put you in a position where you'd know something so toxic is happening, but then you would choose not to do anything?

SPEAKER_00 23:37

I think, I think um, again, because of this state that the world is in, it's almost that people are looking at things and saying, okay, you know what, that's not important right now. You know, um, we've got far more critical issues dealing with.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

And therefore, we're not going to spend time with these social domestic kind of kind of kind of stuff. Um, we got too much of the big things to deal with. And so leaving it unattended, you know what I mean? Don't set in in motion laws, you know, getting the institution, get the producers of these things to say, well, hang on here, you you've crossed a certain line and we are not going to allow it. You see, but as I said, it's being driven by economic, uh, what they call this social socioeconomic situation that the world is experiencing. And as a result, it's almost if it's going to if it seems to be working or making money, then let's get on with it.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Yeah, I don't know. I completely agree. Um that why are these things happening? And the reason why I say that is because if I look at the protests we've had here this week, um for the last, I think we're now coming into the third or fourth year of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Um we look at China's solidification of their position, and they're already making very clear overt signals as to what they also choose to acquire. Um when we look to the well, when we look within what I call the Arab Emirates that we are seeing packages of food flown in on what looks like drones, and there are multitudes of children running along coastal sea lines in the hope that they may be able to get a morsel out of this package. You have Elon Musk, who's one of the richest and most successful men in the world, allegedly supporting the person who put on the protest we saw this weekend. So when you look at it kind of wide view, different visual expressions, but the same thing underneath, and that's why I sit and I ask Dad, like why is this happening and what is happening?

SPEAKER_00 26:49

I think there are several factors that will contribute to this kind of emergency and you know, the unrest that is presently going on. First and foremost, you have to look at it the socioeconomic disparities that is taking place and um the political polarization that is happening around us and the growing dissatisfaction that we are seeing with various institutions. Um, you know, these combined together sort of is leading into this um state where everyone is thinking of self, uh almost like self-protectionism, you know, really that's what it really is leading to. Who can um survive and doesn't allow themselves to become dominant, you know, or by dominated by anybody else. So when you look at that on the broader um spectrum, you see you can understand why we have the kind of stuff going on in the world that we have. Take for instance, you have, like, say, China, you have America. Um America holds China trillions. Yeah. Yet you are now looking how to pressure the person that lent you money for your survival. And it is a perfect case of what the Bible says, that the borrower is a slave to the lender. But then the borrower now wants to destroy the lender, you know, and you see this kind of situation uh more and more. The same thing applies with Russia, same thing applies with Europe. Um, you know, they're all interdependent on each other. So by projecting this violence against each other, I mean, who are they fooling? You know what I mean? But it feels like positioning, and everyone is vining for certain positions that give them uh better advantages and make them more successful. And this is what is happening. And as you make mention, I've say the Middle East. Yeah, the Middle East is a very complex world. You know what I mean? And it it is a world that transcends political ideals and social belief, and you know it it moves into religious, into religious um context, really, to be honest. And you are you see a situation being driven by many factors, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

And it if one doesn't have an understanding of what is going on, that's the key word, it's really many don't have that an understanding, and so they're looking at events in isolation instead of context, which will then provide a thread. Because there is a thread, Dad. Of course, and if you have the eye to see it. You know, sometimes I've said to you, there's nothing worse than something hidden in plain sight. Of course. Of course. Because it's right in your purview, yeah, yeah, but you just don't have the faculties or you can't discern amongst what seems normal, what's out of place.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

And you know, the best way to, and then most perhaps the most one of the most simplest way to um to relate this is what we call the two the two newspapers. Okay. You see, uh, newspaper number one, let's say the natural newspaper, it tells you about yesterday. You know, that's what it reports on about yesterday. And then you got newspaper number two that tells you about yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You see, that is the Bible. You see, now, from the Bible, I could literally tell you exactly how everything is going to pan out, you know, leading up to the next seven years and beyond. Because it is, as you said, right there, hidden in plain sight, available to those who genuinely want to know. Because there are some people who don't want to know what tomorrow is going to bring because it may not fit their narratives, it may not fit where they think they should be and where they want to be. So the best way to deal with that, that knowledge, is to ignore it. And whenever time you do that, down the road you're going to face the consequences of it. You know, it's no different than, say, for example, the common political word is climate change. You know what I'm saying? Now, if greed was not the driving force, it we wouldn't be having the problem we're having today. You know, but again, even though they were being warned, and some scientists will tell them, the political will was not there to make the changes, to make the difference. And in the is, you know, what we are seeing today is the same thing, right? We are heading into something that, I mean, everyone knows about Armageddon. And that is what, in principle, from a biblical perspective, is where we're heading to. And all the players are being drawn in to exactly what is going to happen. And the main player today that is carrying out what's going on in, say, the Middle East is at the you know, it's a pivot. They're at the center of this Armageddon pending situation that's happening. But it's work, we're it's all working up to it. So to get to that point, other structures are going to break down. And that's what we are seeing in countries, in continents, a breaking down of what we call law and order as we know it. Yeah. To make way for a chaotic exact existence, which then leads into things like find this Superman who's gonna come and save the world.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

Do you know what? I read something um just to kind of go left a little bit. Um they are creating a thing for athletes called um the enhanced games. And there is a British swimmer who has left his funded program because the supplements and the medicines, the performance-enhancing substances they can give him. Right, they are now looking to push themselves to the absolute limit of what they believe is their natural human potential. That a little bit like Dolly the Sheep, I think they flashed Dolly to us in 20 yeah, that's quite the quite 2010?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

About 20 years ago. Yeah, 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

And the first thing I thought, Dad, is it if you're happy showing me Dolly, where are the Dolly's pollies and mollies that didn't make the camp? Because you didn't just get it right the first time.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

I mean, they they're behind the scenes there's so whenever you're comfortable enough to show me in real time, it means you have practiced this behind closed doors, yes, to the level that you now think, okay, we've got it under control. Um and you spoke about a Superman type figure coming and and I I say what I said to kind of I agree with you, Dad. I think that a lot of the time we are presented with information that for the vast majority of us, because we are so hankered down in our jobs and our responsibilities, that if you ask me, 95% of the population on planet Earth, especially those that live in built-up what I call societal structures, right? Not necessarily indigenous or indigenous leaning people that want to kind of they're still very much living off the land, it's very earthy. We haven't got over what that pandemic was, Daddy. And most people, a bit like PTSD, they've locked it. You know, we went to go see Inside Out and she had the big vault that had the ghoulie creepies, and you go in there, and it was things that scared her from her childhood and so forth. Yes, and dad, I I just feel like so many people's vault is literally bursting at the seams, and what I'm seeing in society is almost taking the hinges off it, yeah. Yeah, right, because we're now getting to the place where we're seeing things that are clearly wrong and out of place, but it's almost like we're just like, well, okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Yeah. I think what you can't help um notice as well as to a certain degree admire, um with humanity ingenuities, is that like you make mention of the Dolly, the sheep, you create an extreme situation. Yes, yeah, and you present it to the world, which is good, yeah. And then you leave that chain of thoughts with them, yeah, with the world, and then you run to another extreme, yeah, and you create something that have little bearing and somebody like and something like Dalitish Sheep, you create robots, yeah. You get what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Yeah, but you create your robot now looking more like humanity, but dad, not to interrupt you, do you know China have created a robot that can incubate? Oh, yes. Oh yes. I got sent this. Yeah, Dad, you have this robot, yes, it has a child in it. Yes. Now, the reason why it tweaked my thought process was for this reason. Um I really respected the way you and Mum led our family during the COVID pandemic. The reason why I respected the way you and Mum led our led our family through the COVID pandemic is because um we have like a family WhatsApp group, um, and depending on how much everybody's getting on, we talk or don't talk. No, I'm only joking. Um we we kind of my little brother lived on a different continent, um, and between myself and my older brother, we travel a lot, and my parents are they they travel a lot, they just came back from um Zimbabwe a couple of weeks ago. That's correct. And my parents decided that as far as them as parents, they'd raise their sons, given us all the information we needed. Um, they had tried to lean us in the direction that they think we should grow in spiritually, emotionally, and all the other rest that goes with it. And so when we were going through the pandemic period, my parents didn't sit there and say, Well, we think you should. They merely provided information, told us what they were gonna do, and asked us what our viewpoints were. And because um loose slips sink ships, I'm not gonna tell you what we decided to do as a family because it's none of your business. Um, but in terms of what you did, you provided us with so much information that we could make what you like to call an informed decision. Now, one of the pieces of information, because me and my brothers also have our separate WhatsApp group, you had found something about uh a technological company called CRISPR who were doing um on the face of it amazing work with nanotechnology, right? On the face of looking at what it is, yeah, for you to get to that level of intricacy in intelligence about biochemistry, dad. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

Yes, it's feel like something from another world, right?

SPEAKER_03 39:36

But the problem was is that the technology that they had developed was altering what was in your body naturally, which then is problematic because we are the coding of us, right? That it to put it very plainly, it is divine genius to the ultimate level. Of course. And no disrespect, God didn't need any help when there was no world, he didn't need any help creating the world, and he's never needed any help maintaining the world, right? And he'll need no help when he decides to do whatever he's gonna do with the world, which is namely come back and rule it. So the first thing that popped out to my mind when I saw this robot was that machine has the ability to put nanotechnology within that living soul. Right, Dad? And my whole kind of body recoiled because I said, wait there, that this is machine manufacturing to a whole other level. Because now you're really, how do I put this? You are openly in defiance to divine creative process, um, and so when I when I looked at that, Dad, I I sat there and I asked myself, okay, then what's the answer? This is where we're moving to, and I it's my final question as well, Dad, because obviously I I've absolutely loved this this conversation. You've you've given us so much great information, but to people that are at home and will be sitting there and going where do like this is just they're just seeing calamity on top of calamity. Dad, what is the answer?

SPEAKER_00 41:27

I think I think number one, it has to be your relationship with God. Yeah, that is the number one thing because we are getting to a point where everything is interdependent on other things, other people, other places. And the few people, perhaps the less than one percent, the one percent who is controlling the narrative. Because one must never be deluded. Yeah, you mean there is a one percent who can tell you in advance what they're going to do, turn it into some kind of a silly little yellow men, yeah, and tell you this is what we're going to do and turn it into to make it so make it so desensitized to the danger of it that people see it and feed it to their children. Let's take something like, as I said, those little yellow men that we see on the television.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

Hold what you're saying just for one second, because I want to qualify something. Most people, when they hear things like 1%, small group of people, that group over there, their mind immediately, nine times out of ten, goes to what I call conspiratorial thought processes. Now, the reason why I want to put what you said in context is because we live within the realms and the the dad when you the proximity of the one percent all the time. Let me make it make sense. When I was at school, there was only one head teacher, one deputy head. Right. There wasn't only two people in the school then. Now, when you look at the leadership structure from the head to the deputy head to governors, and then you get departmental leaders, then you get regular teachers also in your regular workplace. Like I remember when I was um 15, no, 16, 17, I used to work for Next. We had a manager, we had a deputy manager, we had a supervisor. In people's workplaces, there will be HR, exactly, CEO, C So sometimes we hear certain words and our immediate can be, oh, that's conspiratorial. No, no, no, no. These are structures that are in your every single Even the court system. Of course. The crown system. The crown court's not the same as the magistrate. And the magistrate's not the same as a tribunal. Of course. So I just wanted to kind of contextualize the case. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

That is well put. And it it again helps everyone to understand that is the system or the structure that is governing the world. And then that's why, for example, when you have something like the conference, the DAB outcome conference, you know, leaders, one leaders are two from every country has to be there. So those are what we talk about.

SPEAKER_03 44:37

And these people are also in the know of information. Yes. That if a school's going to shut down, the head teacher doesn't find out when they know things far enough when a company's being wound up. They will sit there, but right, when are we going to let the work population know? Because we still need business to keep going until we're not going.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

Exactly, exactly. So it's important. And this is what is actually happening. So when these um ideas, our plans are being um implemented, they have already had the narrative as to how it's going to happen. And it's not so much being bothered as to the lust of life. And if it means losing a certain amount of people, plays, and things, they are going to do it. So where we are right now, we are seeing that kind of method operandi going on, really. And some may think, well, it's some form of culling, you know, I mean, uh, the human race. So because they feel that the human race is running out of resources for different reasons, and how best you're going to do it. But that is from a more political, social standpoint. Yeah. But the one that matters is what has been foretold two centuries, two thousand years ago, that leading up to the conclusion of human government, you're going to see the world plunge into this chaotic situation to the point where they said they will be crying for a Superman, is what I mean, to come and save them when the real Superman is Jesus. And that's who you really need to come to terms with. And he just in conclusion, uh, I had I received a uh a little clip, video clip, it was from one of the countries in the Caribbean, and they were saying that in this mall, people just break out worshiping, praising God. Just everybody in the mall, you know, and they were suggesting that there is indeed a revival that is coming because everything has to maintain balance. You can't just have all evil and don't have the potential for right actions and righteousness. So, yeah, so that for me is how we're going to aid a more normal, I would call godly system, is to be as proactive, not to be ashamed, um, identify where the problem is, and of course, do our best to bring balance and adjust the way people think, feel, and um go forward.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Dad, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for this conversation. Um, thank you guys for hanging out with us and sharing with us. Also, please, we never sit here and want you to be codependent on us for you to understand. We just want to be a source of information and inspiration that then allows you to create the independence within yourself to be able to go and look at the information, test the information, administrate the information. Um, please like, subscribe, and share. Um, please feel free to follow my dad on his platform at Bishop L. Williams. Um, mine, Sean Williams World. Um, we have our hate Patreon links that you can donate to. We have our PayPal links if you like what we're doing and you'd like to support us as we try and further the intention of what this podcast is. Um, but from me and my dad, have a great rest of your day.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

Steve Bless.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

What do you do when you find yourself in a situation and you feel there's nothing you can do? Um the answer is heaven has relegated you down to the one thing you're supposed to do, which is to be present. To allow yourself to become an instrument of divine and greater use. To the family of Charlie Kirk, we want to send our condolences. Um I also want to say that love is the greatest power that God has given us on this earth, and one of the byproducts of love is forgiveness. I believe the intention of Mr. Kirk's mission was to project and to create perception of the greatest person that ever walked the earth, Jesus Christ. And in his intention, he came because love was his purpose and his reason reconciliation and salvation. So in moments like this, when those of us that have deeper connection stand in these moments, it is for us to show and reflect the world, the model of the most perfect human that ever lived and walked. One of the last things he said when he hung on a cross next to two strangers that were worthy of the punishment he was going through was Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. Forgiveness isn't just about the other person, it's about you. So I implore all of those, whichever side of the divide you stand on, forgive. It is the solution and it is the way to clear the path for resolution and reconciliation. If you can forgive, you open the door to love. If you open the door to love, then we sit at the table of understanding. If we sit at the table of understanding, then we have a chance to connect based on the intention for which we were made and created. Take care of yourselves and each other. Bye guys, I think.