Yo Pops Podcast
Yo Pops is an easy listening insightful podcast shared between father-son duo Lynwal and Shean Williams. The creation of the podcast was to help build a bridge for young and old alike, whether the relationship is present, lost or no longer earth side, we aim to make everyone feel included in these honest and open conversations, also providing the opportunity for you to lean into this wisdom and experience anytime you should need it. Our hope is that you hear something that either helps, makes you think or simply makes you smile.
Yo Pops Podcast
Why am I feeling stuck?
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Stuck is something we all feel at some point or junction in our life journey. It usually comes with a feeling of paralysis, a feeling of not being in control of the destination. Or the receipt of new information that causes us to want to change path. Often time its the small nudge in perspective, that reveals a whole new picture, that allows us to exchange perspective for perception (Eyesight for insight). In the matter of changing anything significant there are common cornerstones that we must build upon to support the dawning of what's new.
Time, patience and process should produce a calmness that is routed in knowing, not through information but practical experience.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Yo Pops Podcast with me, Sean Williams, and my father. Our blessings. We hope that everybody is okay and you're having a wonderful week and you are surviving the heat kind of coming down. It is coming down indeed. Let me get through our first little announcements and Yopops protocols. You can follow us on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, at Yopops Poddy. Also, my father, that sounded way too what's the word I'm looking for? Official. You know what something sounds a bit like? Yes. So my dad, Im, his URL is at Bishop LA Williams. Correct. And mine is at Sean Williamsworld. Also, you can look either the link below or in the description and you can donate and support us through our paypal.me at yo popopspotty. Also, my dad has a Patreon. Or if you just want to send some comments or some nice emails and just say, guys, we love it. We like it. Sean, you talk too much. Bishop, we need you to talk more. Keep those views to yourself. No, I'm joking. We want to hear everything. We want to hear everything. And we appreciate everything that you are doing to support. And Dad, how are you on this fine morning? I am very, very well. You sound well. Yes, I am. How are you feeling about your upcoming trip? Because I know you travel shortly.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I go to Zimbabwe.
SPEAKER_01Why are you telling everybody where you're going? Of course. Now you've got people that are just going to come to the house and be like, he's not in, it's alright, they've gone off.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, uh try it. Consecration.
SPEAKER_01I know what you're having. I just want to know about how you're feeling about the trip.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm feeling good.
SPEAKER_01Um I know there were some things that you're trying to tie up and stuff, so sometimes when you're gonna go and do those official bits of business, it's yeah, it's a lot because as soon as you hit the ground, there's a lot to do. That's right. So hopefully you're feeling more prepared this end.
SPEAKER_00Definitely, um, most of the preparation is on that side, really. Okay. So um, but from my side, I'm good.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. All right, let's jump into today's potty. Um, Dad, I was away working this weekend, um, and funnily enough, I I sometimes like to sneak off and find a little quiet corner and hang out in. Um, or sometimes just have a moment to just breathe. Right. Oh, you'll just want to breathe. Why? Because when you're performing to a vast amount of people and you might be good at what you what you do, right? Okay, sometimes people want to talk to you a lot. Oh, okay. And if you're a person that that you like to talk, but you want to keep it at a hello, oh thank you so much. That's lovely. Yeah, and that's like conversation done for you. Okay, and then like, so what do you do? And where do you and if they're paying, you can't be like, look, can you just go away, please? Like, if when I'm on the stage, all right, cool, we can do, but listen, this is my personal time here. You can't say that. Or you're those work opportunities might become a bit fewer as well as we so um I often try and find either the darkest corner or the corner that my whatever my outfit for the days I merge into the furniture so people camouflage, you know, like animals in the wild. Just you don't see me until you see me. Okay. Um, but I actually overheard a very interesting conversation between um two men, actually. I guess they were friends.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I think they've got to the part of the night where their partners were very, I think they've been having some drinks and were feeling very celebratory on the dance floor. Really? So I think they took it as a chance to sneak off and not have to hold handbags and dance on, you know, dance moves that they don't know, and feeling a bit kind of like, oh, let's make an exit. Um and they were talking about work, and from what I gathered, both were married. One had children, right, and the other was talking about having children and stuff. And then he was just like, I just feel stuck. And I was just like, you know the way where you you you kind of go, let me bring my breathing right now. He's just like, I just feel stuck. And then his friend was like, Is it the family? He's like, No, no, it's not that, but like, I know I need to provide, and I know I need to do things, but I hate my job and I'm not happy, but I need to make money, and you could feel kind of his despair, Dad, because you realize that he maybe didn't feel like he could tell his wife what was going on, or if he had, that the response he got back didn't soothe or medicate his soul in any way, he didn't get any answers, or he didn't find any rest in the advice that came back. And I almost wanted to be like, I'm over here, come in. But I was just like, this might scare them if it's already dark and they see this black figure coming out of nowhere. So it got me thinking, Dan. It got me thinking. Um, because obviously the last five years has been very what's the word I'm looking for? It's been a period of change and transition for a lot of people. Um, a lot of people went into the pandemic and lockdown periods, kind of having one idea of life and about what they want to do and how they are, and then they came out on the other side and there was new ideas, or you know, they they doubled down in where they were. And I think lots of people have had uh either realizations um and they are exploring their environment on a personal, professional, and maybe even emotional level, and they're saying, okay, what makes me happy? What keeps me fluid? Um, and so I kind of felt like his conversation, his feeling with his friend was something that was wider than just them, dad. Yes. Um, and obviously, with what you do and the amount of people that you speak to, I think it's a common feeling for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00It is, it is. Uh, a lot of people suppresses that feeling, uh, but it really is, and especially men, yes, um, in particular, uh, because there are three things that most men do not think about.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Let me put these down and at the at the early stage of their life. Okay. What number one is that they look at what is considered to be the norm, and that is you get yourself a very good job, yeah. Uh potentially a business, but most people would go for a job, and they think, well, the next step I will get married. Yeah. And then the next one would be have a house. And number four, they would have a they would have children. Yeah. And for most people, that's a lifelong journey. See, now in these days with technology and everything like that, a lot of people by the time they may eat hit mid-30s, they've got all of that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Where where do you leave yourself to go after that?
SPEAKER_00Well, that is where that's where the frustration and the problem comes. Yeah. Because most ladies, um they they're happy with that, with just that. Um, yeah, because it's number one, they've got the they've got their children. Yeah. Number two, they've got their home, a security, yeah. They've got a husband who's got a job, uh, and themselves might have a job or a business as well. So what else is there to worry about?
SPEAKER_01Do you also think that the reason women tend to feel more comfortable at that point is because historically, but also biblically, they have ticked off the to-do list that is intrinsically built within their nature. Absolutely. So it is the ability to support nurture and care. Absolutely. Does that make sense? Yeah, manage as well to a certain extent.
SPEAKER_00And so those four things, yeah, you know, let's be honest about it. Most women do a fantastic job of handling of handling that. And um she's happy because he gives her security.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um she's happy because he gives her children security.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And she's happy because the good gentleman is doing his part, and she's able to support him in what he does. However, once that is done, because of men's inherent creativity, when they accomplish that, where do we go from here? And that is why you would hear that gentleman saying to his friend, he feels stuck. He's not regretting what he has what he has accomplished. No. He's simply feeling, okay, I don't know where I go now in terms of my vision or my creativity. Because for him to embark on any form of creativity, he's going to upset the apacot, as it were. Of course he is. And the good lady may not be very happy about that because she's happy that he's steady, secure, he secured the family, and now he's coming up with this wild, wild notion that he's stuck. Yeah, that he's stuck. You know what I mean? But for him, it is again redefining his his goal in life, his vision, his purpose. And he's thinking, what I'm doing is out of necessity, out of duty. But what is really his dream, his vision, that's what they have lost along the way.
SPEAKER_01I almost feel that um that sometimes men get to that stage and they become resentful to the commitments and the responsibilities that they have, not because they don't want to fulfill their their responsibilities or their jobs, but it's almost like they feel that they've been hoodwinked. Right? Because the model that they're set is like you say, finish education, find a wife. Yeah, a lot of time they're not finding a helpmate, yeah, but they're finding um an idol, indeed, for want of a better word, right? They're finding something to put on a pedestal, indeed. Um, and then they kill themselves to get that job that will pay for the visual lifestyle they think will keep what they've put on the pedestal happy. And then they get into the rig and roll of okay, now I need the house and I need the car and I need the children, and then it's almost like they get to the pinnacle of the mountain they thought life was about, of course, to realize that that mountain was really a mirage and the real mountain is over there, and to climb this fake mountain, you got rid of all of the tools and all of the equipment that you needed for the real one. So I would say to you, how then would a man who potentially is in a position where he's coming to the realization that he may have overly invested in the wrong idea of himself? How do you then kind of go back to what I call the foundations and rework that I think I think there's two things.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you it cannot go back to what I call the foundation per se. Okay. What you need to do is to change direction in in some in some way or the other.
SPEAKER_01Expand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for example, you're on a journey, and you've done well up to now, but suddenly you either miss the sign down the road and you go down a dead end road. Yeah. Now you're gonna come to a point that you got to stop and you can't go any further. That's where he is stuck. So, what do you have to do to get out of that? Number one, he has to reverse. You know what I mean? And get back to the point where he makes the wrong turning. Wow. You see what I mean? Before he can now proceed to go forward. Can I ask a very quick question?
SPEAKER_01Everything you're saying, I love, how would he identify the wrong turning?
SPEAKER_00Well, uh, because he's come to a dead end.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but he's stuck. But he's gonna be reversing, and just for one of the conjecture of the argument, there is gonna be a certain panic because he's now gonna be aware of time. Right. Right? And a lot of the time, Dad, is I remember when you had a car crash on the M25, you are a fantastic driver. But there was a point when you realized you weren't in control of A, what you could see ahead, B, how where you are, and see your it was your um, there's a word I'm looking for your your reactive, your reactionary skills, right, Dad? Because crashing or not crashing, a lot has to do with how quick you can react to what's happening at the moment. Does that make sense? Yeah. So I would say to you, Dad, with if a if a man has found himself in that position, generally when I see it, which is why I think sometimes we get men that will in the the latter seasons of their life, and all of a sudden that we start dyeing hair and we start we start wearing clothes that doesn't perfect our age. Right, absolutely. You get the convertible and and and you get the girlfriend who's who's old enough to be your granddaughter, and then you're like, So with all of that kind of, I call it life's natural tornado happening, then how does he gain enough clarity and calmness to be like, okay, not that turning to go down a worse and but to go back and does that make sense?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, of course it does. In a situation like that, he needs help.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00He needs help. And the person who is best positioned to help him oftentimes don't know that if she's not discerning that he is in need of help. Now, the reason why a lot of men find themselves in very dubious dead-end road is because they uh do not like to talk as they should. That is their that's men's major problem. They rather implode rather than sitting down and explain.
SPEAKER_01Now do you think that comes from maybe some of what they've seen in their in their their seasons in their life where they're learning and assimilating information?
SPEAKER_00It has a great deal to do with culture. Yeah. You see what I mean? Because various cultures, you can't you can't afford to show certain weaknesses, you know, it's just not not done.
SPEAKER_01That I'd even go as far as to say that especially where men are concerned, it feels more gender-based. Any man or any young, any, yeah, any child that's grown up with their father in the house, I think it's something that it's quite a man thing to do. Yeah. Which is why sometimes some of the expressions of some of the expressional releases of frustration, whether it's drinking or shouting, or he just goes into the shed or he just goes into it. Does that make sense then?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And it and this is the way it requires discernment.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And if she can see that all the boxes are thick, then why is he not happy?
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_00Because you can't mask that unhappiness when you've done a dead-end road. You see, it's there only if the person is not interested, then I'm talking about life partners, not the partners, not interested to notice that he is having a meltdown, so to speak, in his emotion. Because it would flog up in one way or the other. Yeah, it would. She's going to be the most trusted person, although he talks to his friend like you heard him talking. But his friend is limited in what he's going to be able to say because more than likely he's also stuck perhaps in his situation. Can I be honest? That's exactly what it sounded like, Dan.
SPEAKER_01You could say he was just like, oh, okay, um, you're you're good. And I'm just like, oh, you both are in the same precipice. Yeah, that's it. So almost thought that like his friend almost had become resigned to his fate. And he it's almost like he didn't want his friend to say it because it it was almost reminding him of the time where he went to the person he thought could help him get out, and he was just like, it's almost like he didn't have the heart to say there is no getting out of this.
SPEAKER_00Indeed. Is it but you see, the problem is, you see, the thing is that there is, yeah. But is who you go to to find the solution, you see? Now, the person who is going to be best able to help you find that solution, if she's smart, that is, is the is your is your partner, your wife, whatever it may be. You see. Because she's going to be able to say to you, what he's asking is permission to go forward in a direction that she hasn't yet seen. You see. Now, why would most women reject that? Because it is potentially putting her security at risk.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_00Wow. Uh, let me give you an example, which has always struck me. You'll have somebody who decide, okay, they want to be um a parachute jumper. You know, an old say an old middle-aged person or um a fast car driver or they want to jump out of a parachute or they want to go hiking out in a and you see you'll see a a good woman who said, okay, if that's what's gonna make you happy, I'm going with you. Um I'm gonna be supporting you. But you also think that's because she knows where the life insurance policy is.
SPEAKER_01She's not that wicked. I mean, when the one in that kitchen, and I went if he doesn't come out, we could put a nice picture up of it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, so I didn't mean that.
SPEAKER_00I didn't see, but the idea is that you know she would support him. Yeah. And she would. You don't go on, you don't need the parachute.
SPEAKER_01Maybe you can fly.
SPEAKER_00That's too much. Sorry. I didn't sleep, I listen, I didn't sleep deprived. She's going by supporting him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He feels he feels a sense of release, you feel wonderful. You know, I mean, obviously, if you take that extreme to go try jumping out of a plane without parachute, then you know, of course, of course, he, you know, we know what will happen. Yeah. But in in general, it could be a business. It could be some other um a real heart desire. Yeah. Because a lot of men as not really follow their heart, really. They follow what is norm and what is expected of them. Because if I have the good job, I have the nice house, have the nice car, have the children, everybody gonna, you know, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. But who stopped to ask, is that what you really want to do? Is that your vision? Is that your purpose? You see, and it is it is what what will make him mega happy is to know that he has put in place the securities, yeah. Right, comfortably for the family, and now he can pursue his passion without feeling guilt or putting at risk the family, um, the family security.
SPEAKER_01Dad, do you think that men often fall into the trap of pursuing the path, the most the quickest path to the destination of success without truly assessing the how do I put it? It's almost like It's almost like they have an idea of what they think they want based on what they've seen that tickles their personal fancy most. And then they will look at whoever they um whoever they think to be successful or the most efficient person to get there. And it's almost like they try and then carbon copy their journey, their their decisions and choices in order to get there without truly firstly identifying A what is in their heart, B what has God purposed for them. And that C and I I noticed this a lot that um men tend to attach themselves to visions that will end that that will end up validating who they think they're supposed to be, right? Rather than leaning into the thing that's going to make them what they were always destined to become.
SPEAKER_00Indeed. And that is where a lot of men um lose it in the latter part of their life. Because you get to that point where you can only enjoy so much food, you can only um spend so much money, you can only all of these things, it does not leave you any degree of satisfaction. The only thing that leave you with life satisfaction is purpose.
SPEAKER_01Say that one more time.
SPEAKER_00That leave you with life, life satisfaction is purpose. Why that? Because you are tapping into both your spiritual and natural purpose for existence. You see what I mean? See, that's what it that's what it is. Write that down. You're gonna need that in your life. Indeed. So um when uh a person therefore um come come to themselves and say think, yes, I've acquired all of those stuff that I acquired, but there's a sense of emptiness on the inside because you've not fulfilled your purpose. Yes, I mean, and that is where even with people with millions, billions, in fact, it's like they've got nothing. Yeah, I mean, they can buy the town, they can buy the boat, they can buy, but it's like they've got nothing, and they're constantly pushing and pushing. Well, why are you pushing? You got big you you won't be able to spend it in a in 10 lifetime, but that's not it, you see, it is still searching for that purpose to their life. And that's where a lot of people get stuck. I mean, those who can buy their way to make it look pretty and make it look wonderful, then they do, but those who can't, then they find themselves, even with having the good thing, break it, destroy it, risk it.
SPEAKER_01Can I ask you a question? Based on the seasons that you've gone through in your life and the stages that you're at when looking back at it in context, where did you feel like you ran into if you ever did, a period of feeling either um immobile or stuck and can you recall what you did to undo it?
SPEAKER_00Where well personally, I speak personally first, where I feel um when when I felt I was stuck, it wasn't because I'd run out of option or lock vision. The mistake I felt that I I would say I make was thinking cooperative. And that is for me, it is something that every wise person, especially men, should consider because you can go out there, take the risk, expend whatever you gotta do, thinking you got everybody inside, until something begin to shake or not going to plan, then you see, you suddenly realize that you haven't got everybody on plan. And now if you're carrying something and everybody let go of the air, and then you're going to, to a certain degree, find yourself stuck until you can come up with a solution by which if you have nobody to carry it with you, you can carry it yourself.
SPEAKER_01That was one of the hardest, that was one of the hardest and most valuable lessons that you've ever taught me. And if I'm honest with you, in order for me to get to a place where my thinking really was able to grab hold of what you were saying, it took me about 10 years. It took me about 10 years. And I, there are certain conversations that we've had that, dad, my brain can play it like a film file. And I remember you saying there, there was some stuff I was doing, you're like, I understand why you're doing it. That thing does not share the same divine DNA as you. And you're gonna get to a point and that's gonna break your heart. Yeah. And I was like, Yeah, dad, da da da da da. And I was saying myself, that may be your story, buddy, but it's not gonna be mine. And then you start seeing certain things that because if you if you're a person that looks, you start seeing certain things, you're like, no, no, because you're like, how has his how has his idea run up into my film set? Like, no, no, no, no, I'm in charge of everything here, and then you're like, no, because these are the natures of people that you cannot change. No, no, you can't, no matter how much good you want for them, no matter how you cannot change the way a person thinks or how they have um processed what they've come through. And dad, the minute I stopped fighting what you said to me, right, instead of it becoming or feeling like waves just being dunked on top of my head, it's almost like my spirit said, Lay on your back and allow the current to take trusting. Oh my gosh, dad. Yeah, and I remember the point where I stopped trying to hold and I just went, and I let it go. Yeah. And the minute I stopped panicking, dad, I found myself in the position that I was kind of supposed to be in. Yeah. Um, and I I said that to ask this in the next question. Um you realized you needed to undo the core the corporate nature of your thinking, how did that begin to either release mobility back into either your vision or your everyday, or what did it do within your maybe your emotional system that allowed you to um psychologically it was very um challenging because you find yourself blaming yourself for not seeing it? Why did I because you could you you play it back and you go, it was there, it was there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but that is one of the first things that you begin to to feel. Now, and you might remember hearing me say that I somebody said, Do you beat upon yourself? I said, Yes. Or with a feather. I said they're gonna be laughing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's a device down. You know, I give that to my students and they all that they all like they're it's almost like they want to laugh and cry.
unknownYeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because they're like, because I say to them, I'm like, if life is gonna beat upon you anyway, why would you do it? Yeah. And I say to them, I go, if I was in a room and there were two of us beating beating a person in the corner, you your natural proclivity would be like, Why are you doing? And I said, That's what sometimes you allow life in yourself to do to you.
SPEAKER_00Indeed. Indeed. So that was one of the things that I recognized that I had to beat myself. Sure. But it's what I is what I use to beat myself, yeah. That I felt makes a difference. So you simulate the action of punishment without inflicting the injuries. Precisely, because I'm that masochistic. You know what I mean? No, I hear it.
SPEAKER_01I hear it.
SPEAKER_00You know, and um, and sometimes when people think you're beating yourself, um, you know, they don't bother bother to want to beat you. Because I mean they use a sticker, piece of metal, or something to beat you. Now, so that was the first thing that I felt that yes, you gotta learn from that experience. And it's how fast now you can go by tapping into what you really are about. Because it might have been different reasons why you decided to bring everybody on board. It may be your own insecurity, your own fear of, you know, okay, I'm gonna be successful, but I need to share that success with somebody.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? But in fact, at the best of time, that's not how it works. Because some peace some people just, that's why there's 90% of people working for somebody else rather than themselves.
SPEAKER_01Do you think if you stay in a period of immobility that or feeling stuck, then it drains your energy and also your belief that you can either change your situation or that you have the strength to see the process through.
SPEAKER_00I think what it what has to happen is to resort back to you, to you. You know what I mean? Right? Don't try to fix it for anybody else. Don't try to be be uh appealing to anybody else. Just resort back to what is inherent in you. That's brilliant. And that's where you're gonna, you're gonna you're gonna do it. And I can still remember um when you were at a certain job and you one day decided, okay, you're not gonna be there anymore. And it came and it was like everything had gone. It's easy really, that's how it felt. And I'm thinking, okay, while you were depressed, down, sad about it, I'm saying, great. Now you're ready to follow your purpose. And from that day, you begin the building, setting in motion your business, setting in motion your ideas, your vision, and look at you today.
SPEAKER_01And sometimes I think heaven will disrupt your environment, dad, to bring you to pop. No, no, no, no, no, no. Do you remember the? Of course I remember it. I could not believe the email that was sent me. No, no, no, no. We can talk about it, dad. I'm talking to my dad. I don't care. Dad, if I could have brought down fire from heaven, on top that there would have been a barbecue on Gleason Road, and I'm telling you, the whole thing would have gotten like a bumper that I would have made the 5th of November look like a marshmallow party. Dad, I read that email and I responded with such ferocity that I don't know how I managed to stay in the like when I was saying I was tap dancing on the line of like insubordination, stroke, just rudeness. And I remember once the emotional feeling of wrath. Yes, this wasn't anger, Dad. Like I've been angry before and I've been agitated. No, no, no, this was this, Dad. This was this was wrath. Um, wrath burns out. And when those embers were no, no, because they were flickering. When I came and saw you, they were flickering, Dad. Listen, the thing was threatened to be a forest fire, and and and I've seen what embers can do when left unattended. And you very calmly came with a very spiritual extinguisher, and you're like, I don't think this is a bad idea. I have always thought you should be doing stuff for yourself. Oh, so you don't know what they're going through. Tell you what, take the office at the back. Go pray. And when I had the minute to stop and think, it gave me the chance to re-evaluate my reference points. And I was like, God, every time you've put me in this simulation, it's always because you had better waiting. That's right. And I was able to look at myself in enough self-awareness and go, God, I am a creature of complete habit and comfortability. I know if I like something, I'm not changing. And because I'd allowed the temporal feeling of anger and north to leave, I was able to then see, in retrospect, like, I almost ended up apologizing to the Holy Spirit dad. Because I was just like, over the last five years, you have given me very clear signals where you're like, it's get ready to move. That's right. Stop getting comfortable. We are not setting this clay to keep you here. This is wax. I'm melting that so you can move. And I think you're right, Dad. Once I got over what I thought I was losing, and I got the vision of what I was supposed to go and possess. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And now you have laid foundation that is unprecedented.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And if you, you know, even this, even the same people wanted you back, you said, I mean, etc. So they didn't even know why. They perhaps had gone to that extreme. But by that time, you already now understand that you got a purpose. Yeah. In which you got to you got to you got to follow. So that is what happens when you, if you get into that stocky failure, feeling of failure, it's not that you're failing, it's just the simple fact that you need to reevaluate. How do you perceive, what do you perceive as your purpose in life? Because no matter how long, your purpose never goes stale, it never changes, because everything is set for a reason. The sun can't just decide you're gonna shut off the light. Because can you imagine the havoc it would cause to plant life and every other life going? Every one of us are put here to follow a divine purpose because other things is um is is depending on you. It's like the flowers deciding, okay, no more pollens, that's it. What's gonna happen to the bees? And if the bees don't make the honey, and the list, you know, that's it. That's a chain reaction. Yes. So so when that happened, don't you know, don't panic, just move forward. And there are others who can identify with the fact that, okay, there was a time when all I want to do is to work for somebody, because it's simple, it's easy, I'll just get my little money at the end of the month, and I'm good. But then one day they may come and say, I'm sorry, you here's your notice, leave. Then you fell right back down to square one. But when you have your own thing, following your own purpose, your own calling, nobody can do that. You're never gonna be disappointed. Thank you so much for your time.
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SPEAKER_01Um, but more than that, we just want to keep regenerating this good information because we want you to empower yourself to extract all of the potential that God has put inside you and for you to live a victorious and overcoming existence. Um, Stad. Thank you. Okay. And guys, what do you want to say by now? Blessings. Did you give him the two fingers? Of course. Peace.