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• James Reeves, Michel Kabia, and Jabez Reeves

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One of the biggest struggles believers face today is truly understanding our identity in Christ. When we don’t know who we are in Him, we end up living beneath what we’ve been called to.

We weren’t just saved, we were positioned to walk in purpose, carry His nature, and function in His Kingdom with clarity and authority.

In this episode, we unpack what our true identity really is and what it looks like to actually live and function in it, because when identity is settled, everything changes.


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SPEAKER_04

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the 1014 podcast. My name is James Reeves. And on this episode, we will be talking about the believer's identity, our identity in Christ. You know, um, for many of us, like us on this couch, we struggle with our identity in Christ. We struggle with knowing who we are in Christ, we struggle with understanding the gospel of Jesus Christ and really allowing the gospel to shape our reality. We oftentimes in this life, like anyone else, we allow the circumstances we go through in life or our mood of the day to decide whether we are in Christ or whether we're outside of Christ. So it's kind of correlated to the salvation of Jesus Christ. But on this episode, we'll be talking about the believer's identity, knowing your identity, and just being able to shape your identity in Christ Jesus. So, like always, on my left, I have Zevin Dale. On my further left, I have Jabez Reeves, and on my furthest to my left, I have I was about to say I was about to say Mickey. No, and I have MJ Cabia. So this is gonna be a good episode. You know, I I think it's gonna be a good I think it's gonna be a good episode because um this episode I think it really matches the season for some of us that we are going through that man life is truly why do I keep looking at the camera? Life is truly about your identity in Christ, but um, so and I know that a lot of young people struggle with this. I know that, and I know we say a lot of we we speak as though we're speaking to young people, but it's not only young people that will listen to us, anyone that will hear the message, um, just be willing to accept it. Don't look at us in our age and look down on us, just you know, if you can relate, if you can understand what we're saying, then let it be so. So, the first thing we're discussing is what is the believer's identity, and the reason why this question I think is the most important is because I think many of us come into Christ Jesus with this idea that oh, I'm a believer, I believe in Christ Jesus, I'm I'm saved, but we're not being transformed into the identity of Christ Jesus, we're being transformed into the idea or the system of religion. I I'm sounding kind of like preacher-ish, but yeah, I think many of us are we're we're being we're being taught how to play Christians, we're being taught how to play church, but the identity of Christ is not really being found in us, and Ivan and that idea, and I think, and the reason why that's a problem is because when the identity of Christ is not formed in you, that's when you'll be speaking in tongues, but your heart is full of lust, hatred, envy, bitterness, backbiting, resentment. And these are the things that Christ wants to deal on our insides with, but when we're not being dealt with, or we're not dealing with transformation into the identity of Christ, that's where you'll see those things still take root in our lives. And I actually want to quote a scripture really quickly before we even get into this a little bit more. In Ephesians chapter 4, Paul says something that is very interesting. If you know me, one thing I will always do is I'm always gonna quote Paul because Paul's just carrying some deep revelations. Oh my gosh. So, um, in Ephesians chapter 4, beginning from the verse 17, Paul says something. He says, This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart, who being past feeling have given themselves over to lewdness and to work all uncleanliness. He says, But you have not so learned Christ. So Paul is saying that there's an identity or there's a nature that comes with the Gentile man, or in other words, the man that doesn't know Christ. There's the identity that comes with that man. So for those who think that we're free gracers and that, oh, we think grace is a license to sin. No, we're actually saying that there is a transformation process. And Paul is identifying that the new man transformed in Christ to put off that old man. So the problem is that many of us have the identity or the title of a Christian, but we're not being transformed into the identity that is the likeness of Christ as well. You know what I'm saying? So let's just get into that really quickly and see what you guys all think about that. Anyone?

SPEAKER_02

I I think in agreement of what you said, the church has has put it in a place where your identity is tied towards outward performance. And I think that the where you are now with your identity is not repaired sin, it's a new creation. You are not you're no longer trying to evolve from an old self. You are already made new and perfect in the image of God.

SPEAKER_04

Hold on, but I'll stop you real quick. I don't think it's just the church that is saying that is giving us a performance-based system. Life is full of performance based on the workplace, it's a performance-based system. In relationships, if you don't perform well in your relationship, your relationship is likely to suffer. In every area of life, there is likely to be some level of stagnation, some level of downcast, some level of struggle because there's a performance-based system. So, what that means is the church has to do a better job of defeating the world system out of our mind, saying the contrary of what the world is already telling us, that it is based off your performance. Your identity is tied to what you can and can't do. But it's hard to do that.

SPEAKER_01

It is hard, and it's because we've been trained in the way of the world. I think like the gentile, the gentile man that you were just talking about isn't just about like lewdness, it's also about adopting the identity of performance. So the reason I know like a lot of comments and a lot of people are like, bro, why are you that's all y'all talk about? Like, why don't you talk about performance a little bit? Because it is necessary. And I'm like, it's not, and that's what I'm trying to kill. Uh, but the identity portion of this whole segment that I really want to talk about is sin isn't just an act, it's an identity that we've inherited. You know what I mean? So righteousness is also inherited from Christ. We are now in Christ, founded in Christ, and we have been clothed in the robe of righteousness. Right. We were in sin, we had a guilty verdict, but now that we are in Christ, we are we have the identity of Christ. So I think that a lot of people will try to make their own identity because they don't understand the new identity that they have in Christ. So I will try to build a sand castle if I don't already know that I have a mansion in God. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um and what we and when we talk about like creating your own identity, creating your own identity, like when I remember when I first came to Christ, I thought what it means to be a Christian was that you just fast a lot, you pray a lot, you study a lot, you pay your tithe, and that's just it. Like I thought that was the true obedience that God was looking for. Ritual. So I was so before I before I came to Christ, I was doing a lot of things that are contrary to God's will. You see, but when I actually came to Christ, I seen a lot of people fasting, praying, doing all these things, and it's like, okay, that's it. This is all God wants for me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You see, but then it came a time where I hit a brick wall and I realized I was like, whoa, I don't feel as confident as I used to. So when I stopped doing these things as much, it was like, whoa, okay. I don't know if I don't know if I'm in Christ anymore. You see, so one of one of the first things or one of the first antennas that will go off when you're struggling with your identity in Christ is your lack of confidence. Yeah, yeah. Once you lack confidence in who you are in Christ Jesus, just know you're not walking in your identity. Yeah, yeah, because the one thing that Christ came to do was to make sure that you are walking in assurance every single day of your life. Of course, you're gonna have trials, tribulations, you're gonna have those mind battles, but we're supposed to walk in assurance.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 100%. But how can I walk in assurance if I keep falling? And that's what young Christians struggle with. Right. Because you're going to fall, you're going to fall short, you're going to fall short of the glory of God. So, like in Philippians chapter 3, one thing that I love that Paul says um in verse 3, he says, For we who worship by the Spirit of God are the ones who are truly circumcised. We rely on what Christ Jesus has done for us, and we put no confidence in human effort. So when he what basically what Mike was trying to say is that when you start trying to place your confidence in what you can do outwardly, you will always have a shaky relationship with Christ. You will never have a true assurance in Christ, and you will never really have a true identity in him because you're the one that's trying to will it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Essentially, yeah, and I'll say that that's the biggest issue of someone your renewness being assimilated to you doing stuff is that you want to keep trying to prove, prove, prove, prove. And in that, you're never able to fully enjoy this identity that God has given you. And I was reading Ephesians 1 today, it said, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ. A lot of us need to understand that we are not accidental, that we were selected by God. We were given this opportunity to be one with him. And you're not you're not supposed to be like trying to strive to do this to show your relationship with God or do these external things. Like when you live like that, it's always gonna be up and down. You're always gonna be in today, out tomorrow, high today, low tomorrow. So it's it's important that your your identity is focused on what his word is saying and not what your body feels you should be doing.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I think? Um, hold on, push your mic away just a little bit. I think one of the things that I've seen, and one of the things that just struck me as Jabez was saying that is this is why many relationships tend to fail. I think relationships failing or marriages failing are like, and I hate to say this, but marriages failing sometimes are a representation of how you view your relationship with God. Yeah, 100%. And the reason why I say that is because when it comes to our relationship with God, there is nothing in life that is supposed to separate you from the truth that Jesus Christ is Lord. Right. There's nothing, no, there's no situation because life will bring storms. And the purpose of the storms, or sometimes what the storm is there to do, is to test your knowledge of Jesus Christ. Whether you truly believe that he's God, whether you truly believe that he's the Son of God, whether you truly believe that he came and died on the cross. So what it tends to do is it tends to make you sad one day, happy the next day. It's the same thing in relationships. Are you telling me that you once said you love this person, but it's now the storms of life that are gonna dictate whether that is true or not? That is the same thing like your relationship with Christ. So it tells you that our lives cannot be the determining factor for whether we identify with Christ. For example, if your relationship is rocky, are you gonna identify as single? Dang. If you're if your relationship is struggling, are you gonna identify as divorced? It's the same thing with your walk with Christ. If your relationship is struggling, do does God no longer love you? Are you no longer gonna call yourself a Christian? Are you no longer a believer? All the things that you said about God yesterday, that He's true, He's wonderful, He's a mighty God. That was all when you were happy. But now that things are not going as well, even now in the midst of sin, and this is where God is even the and this is where people like don't want to accept it. This is where God is even seen the most in your sin. I'm telling you. God is the most himself in the midst of your sin. We're not saying that God is a God of sin. No, what I'm saying is that the evidence of God's nature is found most present when sin dwells.

SPEAKER_01

When sin dwells and when you're weak. A lot of people are trying to be strong before they receive Christ, not knowing that Christ can't wait to show him actually who he is until you get to that weak point. What's been ringing in my head that James had last podcast is said he said that like his real walk walk started with Christ when he kind of gave up on himself. That's when it's supposed to start. A lot of people are trying to build up this reputation of themselves in Christ, not knowing that what did Paul say? For if I build up what Christ tore down and it makes me a transgrader. Yeah, that's what it is when we are trying to like build up this reputation, build up our outward performance, build up this outward tent, not knowing that Christ is found when all of that stuff is shaken down. Because you have no leg to stand on except Him.

SPEAKER_04

I think and that's why I'm saying, or I always I'm an advocate for knowing Jesus. And and it's so funny that I always call myself an advocate for knowing Jesus, and the Holy Spirit always says, I'm gonna test you on this thing. Right. Every time I say knowledge, knowledge, the believer will be transformed by knowledge. The Holy Spirit is always reminding me that I'm going to test you on whether you actually believe what you're saying. And everything we're saying on this podcast now, you're talking about identity and the believers should know their identity. The devil's gonna try you. Life storm is gonna try you and say, Oh, identity, right? Are you confident, huh? Let's see whether you truly know your identity. And never feel like in this life, and this is for everyone on the podcast, never feel in life that you have arrived. Right. That okay, I've overcome this circumstance, so ah, no circumstance that will come my way will ever stop me. Listen, we always need God because what we have in this life is we have this system of growth where we get to a level of dependence and independence. So we think that when we have gotten to a certain place where I have overcome this, no longer do I need to depend. This whole life you would need to depend on God. And sometimes for some of us, what tends to happen is we refuse to depend on God to the point where God now has to allow certain things to occur before you now say, Fine, I have no one else to depend on except you. But it's not once you get there and you overcome it that you now say, Okay, now time to depend on myself again. Our identity is found in the dependence we have on Christ. Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_01

You know what sin actually is? Sin is living a life apart from God. Yeah, that's why in Genesis chapter 22 it says he banished them outside of the garden. Right. Because sin is you living away from God, and that's what we want to do secretly. Like I said, when you peel back your heart, a lot of men want to be their own God. A lot of men have hidden pride in their heart, including me, because like you said, some days I feel like I'm on top of the world, and that's what I place my confidence in. And then when I fall short, it's like everything is dismantled. And then the Holy Spirit taught me something. He says, How come it's only how come are you how come you are only elated or happy when you're doing good? It's because that's where you've placed your trust at in your outward performance, bro.

SPEAKER_04

I want to say something. Um, of course, we always gotta have scriptural credence, we have to have scriptural backing for all the things that we're seeing. So, some of the things that I have written down the believer's identity is in more than just the name of Christ or simply being a Christian. The believer is in Christ, the believer in Christ is known by the life that they have received. Therefore, the identity is not a mere character shift, but a life exchange for a totally new man. And I want to I want to emphasize on that point that Christ, you identifying with Christ is not a character shift. God is not just shifting our characters, God is giving us a totally new man, and that's what people don't understand. So, what that means is I'm not just telling Zevin, hey Zevin, work on yourself a little bit. You need to fix this, fix that a little bit. No, I'm saying, Zevin, God has given you a whole new life. And this life is something that you have to be taught. For example, if somebody is truly a mother or if somebody is truly a father and they have a baby, you're gonna you think that parent is gonna tell their child, you cry too much. Start working on that crying a little bit. No, facts, facts, first you cry too much, start working on that crying just a little bit. You like to whine too much. I don't want to be hearing that. Why don't you start feeding yourself? At this point, you should be feeding yourself. No, they have to go through the changes in the new life. Because remember, oh my gosh, God is giving me revelation. Because there's a difference between life in the womb and life outside the womb. A child learns to adapt within the womb, but once it steps outside of the womb, it's a new life. Right. Yeah, that's true. And that life must, and no wonder the Bible says that a man must be born again. Right. And now Nicodemus will say, can he enter the womb a second time? Right, right. Because Nicodemus even identifies that the only way there's a new life is that there must be an exchange, something, there's a process of rebirth. So even for a child, when it comes out the womb, that's when life begins. So we in Christ have been brought into the womb of God and pushed out. Now we have to be taught. We've been taught this identity, it's not a character shift, and I think that's where many of us struggle. We think that we're just shifting our character that ah, I need to work on my lust, I need to work on the flesh, I need to fight these things. No, I'm a new man. Identify with that every day. It's a struggle, right? But that struggle is in my true identity. That I remember the um there was this story that I always loved watching. It was that story of um General Butt naked, and I hate to say General Butt naked on the podcast, but General Butt naked, or now formerly known as Joseph Vlay, which was a Liberian warlord who was, you know, uh general during the Liberian Civil War. And he said that He said that when he was when he was about to go into battle, he said that an angel of the Lord stopped him and said in his dialect, My son, why are you slaving? He said, What do you mean, why am I slaving? I'm not a slave. He said, Look at me, I'm a king. He said, The angel told him, It's right, you are a king, but you're behaving like a slave. So it means that this man was operating, but outside of his identity. And many of us are operating outside of the identity. We are just going through life day to day. Do you the Bible says that you are kings? Priests. Sometimes all it takes is in the moment, God will just shift my mind and say, You know that you're my son, right? And I say, Ah, wait. The same thing like the prodigal son. The prodigal son was struggling, had nothing. He said, He came to him. Why am I the Bible says that he came to himself and said, What am I doing? My identity is not with the pigs, right? My identity is that my father is still king. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

My God. So the identity needs a rebirth, a regenerated mind. You can't. That's why. Oh my gosh. That's why the Bible says you can't put a new wine in old wine skin. That's true. You can't put a new baby into an old womb. No. Oh my gosh. That's true. Do you think you can put a baby back into a womb? No. Now that it's out, this is new life. We need to change it. We need to learn the new life. But many of us are only identifying with the name and not the fact that we received a new life. And look, James, a baby doesn't mature by working hard. No, as evidence works. So we will beat that work. No, it's true though. It's true.

SPEAKER_01

A baby doesn't grow up by like no.

SPEAKER_04

It doesn't. You want to say something?

SPEAKER_02

Go ahead. You know, I read something today on my break from um Peter's. I wanted to read it. It was 1 Peter 2, verse 9. He was speaking to a group of Christians. He said, But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood. Yeah, a holy nation, a people for his own possession. By God that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of the darkness into his marvelous light.

SPEAKER_04

When God says that he's not lying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And it's so important because the people there were feeling incon they were feeling insignificant. They were feeling like they were not with God, that they were not following him. And that lets you know that when God is coming to assure his manner, it's not about emotion. He's coming to ground you back into his purpose. So as you're finding your identity, it's not about what you're feeling or what you what you think your body is telling you. It's about what God has affirmed in his word. And that's the best way to root yourself through it.

SPEAKER_04

You want to say something, M.J. Yeah, no, go ahead. And that's so very vital in this walk with Christ. I think many of us need to come to terms with the fact that we have a new life. And this new, for example, a soldier who is on the battlefield is feeling sick today. I'm not feeling good. That doesn't change the fact that you're a soldier. You're still on the battlefield. It's the same thing with God. God may see you going through things in life and you're like, God, I'm struggling. I'm going through this. My son, you're still my son, and I've called you for a work.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

One thing that shocks me the most, and you know what's so crazy? Sometimes there's some, and I I that's why I urge everyone to at least read most, if not all, of the Bible. So at least some so that at least God can bring the scriptures to your remembrance. The Bible talks about in Acts chapter 9 that God told um what was the man's name? The man who went to go and speak to Paul and Ananias. God told Ananias, listen, go and tell Paul or Saw these things, for he's a chosen vessel of mine. He has to go and suffer these things for the kingdom. Can you imagine? His father is telling him, You must go and suffer for this. And this is the God that we're saying, God, I'm going through too much. That's the God we say we believe in. This man is saying that he is, or not even this man, God is saying that he must suffer for the kingdom. He said, I have to show him the things he Must go through for the kingdom. This man is gonna go through trials and tribulations, and it's this God who sent him. That's why it would be Paul who will be in prison, but he's writing this gospel that you find it enjoy. So our identity is not in the things that we go through, it's in the truth of the gospel, right?

SPEAKER_03

You see, in that boom, that was perfect because what I had right written down here is the believer's identity originateslash derives from the gospel of Christ. So, what does that mean? That means whatever God has done for me, whatever God has given me, that's where I receive my identity. So despite how I feel, despite what I go through, that doesn't change who I am. You know what I'm saying? So just like this the spiritual highs and lows that people go through when they fall short in sin, that's one of the main things that will trigger that I don't know who I am anymore. Or when I'm not fasting as much, when I'm not praying as much, that's when I feel like I've lost myself. But even despite those things, God loves you before you even did those things. So a lot of times when we're doing that, what we're trying to do is we're trying to prove to God why we deserve his love. We don't deserve his love, but guess what? Grace is telling us that I'm going to give it to you despite what you have already done. You see, so the Bible says, Behold, that Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. He is the Lamb of God that was slain before the foundations of the world. So despite anything we have done, guess what? We've already been loved by Christ. He justified us, he's gonna glorify us. That's tough. That's every that's the things that we renew our mind continuously, even despite what we go through. That's too. You know what I'm saying? And I have one more thing here. It says, um, the three components of the gospel goes as follows. The death deals with the payment for sin, the burial deals with the old man, and while the resurrection is the entrance of the newness of life.

SPEAKER_04

The new man. Watch this, and just in accordance with what you said, is what I have written down. Colossians 3, verse 1. If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. So Paul is even dealing with the identity of what you are seeking after in this life. He says, if you are in that resurrection, which is dealing with the new man, then what you are actually longing for changes as well. What you are seeking or searching out for in this life, it changes when you identify with the resurrection. And why many of us are still chasing the cares or affairs of this world, is because we don't identify with that resurrection. So I have written down here that in the verse one of that scripture, or the verse one and two, Paul describes the position of the believer. It is from this position that we can live life. Once we describe who we are, we can tell ourselves how to live as well. So once we identify in the resurrection, we can now dwell and figure out life from the resurrection. Many people are still figuring out life from the death. Right. Right. He died for my sins, so they think that I'm dead. No, you're alive to sin. I mean, you're alive to Christ and dead to sin. Right, right. God forbid I'm I'm alive to sin. Maybe I am still sinning. No, but honestly, we're alive to Christ and we're dead to sin. We're not still dead in sin. We're dead to sin. You want to say something?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. As I'm thinking, the the biggest crutch to a man is him is himself. I think that a lot of times when you spend time trying to reenvision yourself, you become your biggest hindrance. I think that what's holding a lot of believers back from understanding their identity is self-interrogation. I think that sometimes we we victimize ourselves and we don't realize how much power we actually have in Christ now. And I was thinking about um the scripture where Paul was talking where he was saying that we would destroy every lofty argument or something like that. And I think that if we're gonna practicalize your identity, when you have the thoughts that are not like Christ that are that are changing from your identity, you need to interact these things and counter it with scripture. Right. You need to challenge these kinds of thoughts. It's because a lot of it is mental. Right. Tell you the truth. A lot of these, especially with your identity, you you you know these things, you believe these scriptures. Everything we're saying is true, but a lot of people struggle with practicalizing it and seeing themselves in the fullness of this identity, and you have to the only way you can do it is combating it with truth and making sure that you're you're not following the wrong things, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you shoot down lies with truth, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's exactly how you do it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so the believer's identity, of course, we know it's in the death, burial, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but we have to know what those things entail because when we identify what those things entail, we can now start to walk out and work with that new man. For example, I think many believers struggle, like I said, with the identity of okay, I'm a believer, what do I do now? Okay, you say I'm a believer, I'm in Christ. What does that actually look like for me? What that looks like for you is you are communing now with Christ based on the fact that he's finished the work for you. So you're not striving to do something, you're not striving against sin, so to speak. You're striving against sin with the Holy Spirit within you, and you're now living for a new God. You're not you're no longer the God of yourself, or you're no longer serving the devil, you're no longer serving the flesh, you're now serving Christ in the spirit, and that is to fulfill the will of God. What is to fulfill the will of God, to preach Christ and make Christ known so that more people can be transformed by the renewal of the mind so that we all can make heaven. So this transformation is a transformative process that is not overnight. And that's something that even I myself, for example, I'm 23 years old now, not to call out my age. You know what's so crazy? Today I was at work and MJ, I was at work today, and we're sitting down in the office, and I don't want to call the kid's name and who we're with, but the person, the kid said, like everyone, they were calling out MJ's age, like, oh MJ's so-and-so age, and I was like, I'm 23. The little boy was like, You look older than him. I was like, Oh wow, dude, like and he just went back to playing on his phone. I'm like, yeah, I mean things, like, yeah, maybe I do look older than him. And I I I be like, that's why I've been like, dang, bro, I be looking crazy on the podcast, but hey man, I'm a soldier for Christ. You know what I'm saying? I'm just a world.

SPEAKER_03

So y'all know I just turned 26.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, just explain himself.

SPEAKER_04

He is now officially unc. How old are you, bro?

SPEAKER_01

23.

SPEAKER_03

What old are you? Seven?

SPEAKER_01

24.

SPEAKER_03

25. Cool.

SPEAKER_04

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'll let us say something about five from 30. Come on. Don't make me bring out my shape like the level. Now I gotta bring out the old. I fully resurrected. I fully resurrected, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That that left foot still in the grave. No, anyway. I was kind of messed up about that. But anyway, now I'm messed up. No, but yeah, so we as we learn Christ, we're being transformed. And I and I think one thing that something to encourage you guys and encourage us that are sitting on this couch. Like I said, I'm 23 years old. I hey, like I said, I'm not the type of person who I've been in Christ since I was out of the womb. No, man, this journey is a long journey. Yeah, and it's one that is God is with you for the rest of your life, and it's something that he's going to continue working on you. You men, you may be struggling with a certain sin. You may be struggling with a certain part of the flesh, and you're like, man, I haven't changed this part of me yet. Listen, God is always by your side, God has never left you, and he will never forsake you. And he knows that you struggle with these things, and God wants to know that you struggle with these things, and he doesn't want you to hide these things, he wants you to come boldly before the throne of grace. Even shout out to sons of all, sons of all has this song, you guys don't know it. Yeah, it's like we come to you, we come to you, we come before the law. Anyway, so we we come we come boldly before the throne of God. So because we have such a boldness, listen, God is not ashamed of you, God is not ashamed of the fact that you're struggling with these things. What you should be careful of, though, is you should become careful where sin no longer affects you. Yeah, not affects you in the sense that, um, oh Lord, there's a the Bible talks about godly repentance. And and the type of repentance that is it's not so it's sorrowful, and then there's the type of worldly sorrow and godly sorrow. So be careful where you are now to a point where it's like it's worldly sorrow, like ah, I feel bad, but I only feel bad because I got caught.

SPEAKER_05

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04

I don't really feel bad because it struck the heart of God. So listen, bro, you're growing. And sister, you're growing. Young man, young woman out there who might even be in the work of ministry and feel like, oh, I'm still struggling with this sin. I shouldn't preach the gospel to anyone. Listen, if Paul himself can say that the things that I don't want to do, I do and still to and still write out that letter to you, who am I? He said, Oh wretched man that I am. He didn't say, Oh, wretched man that I was, oh wretched man that I am, in this state that I am, who's gonna deliver me? He says, I thank God through Christ Jesus. So, listen, man, you may be going through things, but your identity is always and forever, always will be not in your sin, not in what you struggle with, not in what you've gone through, not in the things that your mind struggle with on a daily, it's in who you are in Christ Jesus. So remember that, please. All right.

SPEAKER_03

Next question, right?

SPEAKER_04

Next question. Why is it important for believers to know their identity? Um, we kind of hit on this just a little bit, but yeah. So why is it important for believers to know their identity in Christ? What do you guys think?

SPEAKER_03

Who wanna go for that? Okay, but um Mike got some facts. This this is just this is just one aspect. I know everyone, I know everyone else got some stuff. Um, why is it important for the believer to know their identity? One, because um it is important so believers are not persuaded by every wind of doctrine. Yeah, you see, because like the the first point that I made was that your identity derives from the gospel of Christ. Facts. You see, so despite like the emotions and the highs and lows, you won't be able to identify with Christ without the hearing and believing of the gospel. You see, Paul says something in Galatians chapter one. He says, He says, I marvel that you guys are turning away so soon. Yep from him who called you to the grace of Christ. Yep. So we're one, the Galatians were called to the grace of Christ, all of us in general were called into the grace of Christ. And he says, but you have turned away to a different gospel.

SPEAKER_01

We have turned away from a different gospel.

SPEAKER_03

He says, but there is no other gospel, there's only one gospel, but there is people that have come to perverse the message of Christ.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, yes, you see.

SPEAKER_03

So what does that what does that look like? You might hear a man of God saying, um, that believe Jesus Christ and you'll be saved. But but but they always hit you with the butt, they always add a few extra stuff. I remember I heard a pastor say that if you don't, if you don't tithe, you're gonna go to hell.

SPEAKER_04

Yay!

SPEAKER_03

I heard I heard I've heard people I've heard people say that if you don't do specific things after you have truly believed Christ, you're gonna fall off.

SPEAKER_01

Or if you're still struggling with this or that, then it shows that you're not really tithe card is your membership card.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. You hear all different types of things, all different types of things. No, but it's serious though. It is true. It's serious. There's only one specific gospel, and the gospel itself describes God's love. Yeah, the gospel explains and demonstrates how much God loves you. The gospel is not about us trying to um prove to God that we love him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man. The reason, the reason why we come boldly to the throne of grace is because we know that our record has been expunged. Right. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of people don't believe that, but that's part of the gospel. A lot of people still believe that they're guilty, right? And that's why they can't come before God um confident. So what I wrote down was why is it important for believers to know their identity? You will strive for if you don't know your identity, you will strive for acceptance, not live from acceptance. So you gotta understand that you've been accepted by God, you have been made righteous in God, and if you don't know that, then you will come to God not understanding him. And that's why I was also quoting the scripture, uh Galatians chapter 3, verse 3, based off what you were just saying. How foolish can you be after starting your new lives in the spirit? Why are you now trying to become perfect by your home, your own human effort? They didn't know their identity. You didn't know your identity. You were tossed to and fro. So somebody can come to you and literally knock you off your path because you haven't truly understood what it means to be righteous in Christ. That's why I was saying that righteousness isn't a single act, righteousness is an identity. And if righteousness is my new identity, and if righteousness is now on my ID, then no matter what happens, I'm righteous. Nobody can tell me otherwise. Yeah, nobody can say that I'm saved one day, and then another pastor, because I go to this program, tell me that you haven't been changed. So you actually aren't in Christ.

SPEAKER_04

That's why many of us are tossed to and fro by prophecies. I saw a video the other day by um Pastor Dalapo um Lowell, and he was saying that many prophecies have destroyed people's lives and marriages. No, facts. He was talking about how his wife was at a church program one day, and the prophet was like, This is your this is your husband, and if you don't marry this man, you will miss it.

SPEAKER_05

What?

SPEAKER_04

Like, and she was like, She didn't like the guy. Right, yeah. She was telling her her now husband that I didn't like him at all. Like, I wasn't interested in him. And that mind you, the prophet, and this is no dis the prophets. I believe it. We believe in prophets, we believe in prophecy, we believe in apostles, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Right, we believe in the move of the Holy Spirit, we believe in the anointing of God, we believe in falling under the anointing. We believe in all these things. We believe that the presence of God can be heavily so mighty among you. John said in he was on the island as Patmos and he became as dead before the Lord. Because when the presence of God is truly on you heavily, it may come in many different shapes and sizes. So we are no judge or scrutinizer to how God will move. But what seven is looking at me like, yes, I am a scrutinizer. No, no, but he she will she was saying that, like, oh, like, nah, and I think that's where a lot of the young people struggle with as well. This idea of um prophets and men of God and being tossed by so many, and the Bible talks about how listen, beware of these wolves in sheep's clothing, beware of these things. The the the disciples actually, how do we know that the end is coming? He said there will be so many rumors, so many lies. So many people will say that they are Christ, that He's here, He's there, He's over, look over there. So there are so many messages and so many things out there that is going to challenge your identity.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna add to that that I wrote on that earlier today that one of the things that you the reason why it's important is because in your early walk you will want to imitate someone. Right. The reason why you need to understand your identity is because when and I feel that many Christians go through it. I'm not gonna say that it's it's singular to one person. I went through it, but early on in your walk, you want to be like your favorite man of God, right? Or your favorite woman of God, whoever this person is that you aspire to be, or you watch. And if you don't understand your identity, when you start to see them do things that deviate from the word of God, your identity slowly shifts. This is where compromise begins to swift into the believer's heart. These things begin to change.

SPEAKER_04

When I was at church on Sunday, shout out to Cap. Um one thing that Elder Sam said was that he said that you, your job as a believer or your job as a disciple, or as someone who was discipling someone, is to show them Jesus and get out the way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

The problem is that many people show Christ, stand in front of Christ. Yeah. And say, Christ is behind me. You gotta follow how I'm gonna do it. Do it how I'm doing it. Otherwise, you're not gonna see Christ.

SPEAKER_01

Paul said, imitate me as I imitate. As I imitate Christ.

SPEAKER_04

And I wanted to quote that because even in 1 Corinthians chapter 4, Paul talks about that you have many teachers, but you don't have many fathers. He's so he was telling them, follow me, watch how I follow this Christ, but do not become idols of me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Don't idolize me, don't idolize what I'm doing. It is only through Christ. And I think that's why another thing that many of us struggle with our identity because we're following our pastor, we're following a man of God, and men of God fail to do a good job of saying, Hey, take me out of the way. I remember one time I even received advice, and that's why sometimes I look, I think about the the group studies that we used to have. One day we may go back to those group studies, but I think about the group studies, and I remember one time that an apostle told me, he said, He said that um listen, he said, if you are going to always be in front of the studies, if you're always gonna be in front of the podcast, or not the podcast, in front of the study, in front of the mic, he said what you're actually doing is stunting their girl. He said, because what now happens is you become their god. Yeah, he said, so sometimes you step away. It's not that you're stepping away from the work, but step away from the sp the limelight. Because people need to learn to walk on their own. A child can't always be on training wheels. Right.

SPEAKER_01

That's true.

SPEAKER_04

Imagine you see a 20-year-old man on with training wheels on his bike, you'll say, What are you doing? You're a grown man now. But because he's never been taught to ride without it. You see what I'm saying? So our identity needs to be only on God, only through Christ.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I was gonna I had one more point before we and I said uh it was because identity determines what you agree with spiritually. I remember that when we were studying the creation study, and then I was speaking about um, it was something about the identity between them getting tricked and then something along those lines. But I was noticing that when you don't know your identity, the enemy can redefine it for you. And if you allow them to redefine it for you, like I said, you will continue to slowly swift away from the word of God to these kind of different kinds of patterns. And if you're not careful, these kind of this kind of position is dangerous for a believer. Because as I said, everything in the in the kingdom is a ripple effect. As soon as one person takes away one truth, Zeban talked about it last episode, a truth with a lie is now is now a lie. It's no longer a full whole truth now. So if a believer is now following something he heard or doing something he saw and it's not the true identity of Christ, it will impact whoever the else they're talking to, you know. So that that thing is very important.

SPEAKER_04

I saw I saw a video one time and somebody was saying that when you're sad or like when you're a believer and you're sad and you're something about being a believer being sad or being down and crying, but low-key, you know too much scripture, so you can't like you can't like you can't actually dwell in the sadness. There's been times in my life where like I'm going through something, I'm like, I deserve this, and the Holy Spirit's like, No, you don't. I'm like, fine, I don't deserve. Like, but let me just let me be sad right now. And and and so many people, and it's so funny because like literally sometimes I'm like, God, like maybe I deserve to go through this. And God is like, no, no, you don't, no, you don't, and in my mind, I know that no, I don't. And and I and I'm like, I'm just gonna go through this all my life, and God is like, no, you aren't. And I'm like, dang, bro, like, but it just shows you that inner witness that your identity is always there speaking, right? Right. But we tend to turn down that voice, we tend to turn down that truth, and that truth, that inner witness that you are in Christ, that you are a God of God, you are the Son of God, you are born again. Yes, that all things do work together for your good. Those things are true, but the devil is trying to redefine your identity all the time. Yeah, yeah, and if not for the Holy Spirit, our identity would be redefined. Yeah, if not for the help of God, we would be redefined in our identity, in our truth, and the circumstances of life. That's why many people are who they are today. They've been redefined in their identity. But believers can be redefined because the Holy Spirit is always speaking. Every time there's a lie, God comes back with ten truths.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_04

The devil comes with five lies, God comes back with ten truths. You're of God, you are born to win, you're more than a conqueror, you are loved of God. You everything will work together for your good. And I'm like, Never leave you or forsake you. Even in the midst of sin, I'm like, God, I'm a sinner. You're not gonna, you're not gonna be happy with me.

SPEAKER_01

God is like, even while you're yet sinners, I died, right? That yeah, that that is even proof that salvation and the issue of salvation and us not understanding it and it not having clarity in the mind of a lot of us, it isn't an effort thing, it's an understanding thing. Because when you don't understand, then saying you can just play with you. Yeah, yeah, you can just play with you any way you want, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's so true.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna talk about Hymenius and Feletus, but that's okay. No, because those guys were actually very dangerous. No, they were. No, they literally persuaded a whole group of people that Christ came.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even tell y'all. It's now the time. Bro, I'm gonna just expose them because they need to be exposed genuinely. They're like Hymenius and Feletus. It's this cult, bro. It's called um, have you ever heard of like the the Church of God or something like that? And they try to convince you that God is also a female. Then they also try to convince you. I met one in Burlington. I met one the other day. It's another church.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's in Alexandria. Yeah, bro. Bro, me and the guy had a debate for an hour in the middle.

SPEAKER_01

Walmart and the dude was trying to tell me that I'm about to go to Walmart tonight and see if I can find him. Dude, he invited me and I said yes. And he was looking at me scared because I was like, Yeah, let's go talk about it, right? Because I was bringing up scripture. He was trying to tell me that Christ has already came. And this was actually a scripture in the Bible. It says, if anybody says that Christ is there, Christ is here. Don't believe them. Because Christ is not here. He's ascended, right? But this guy was trying to tell me that uh that number one, God was a female and a male, and then also that Jesus Christ was an Asian man. He actually walks on the earth right now, bro. Oh, that he's on the earth? That he walked on the earth, bro, in the 90s. In the 90s. Okay. Michael Jordan. So I'm just kidding. But let's continue though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, no, man. So, and and what I have written down here is your identity makes up so many factors of your life. What you identify as determines several areas. So, and the reason why I say that is because if you identify as a dog, you'll do the things of a dog. If you identify as a sinner, you'll do the things of a sinner. If you identify as a newborn again believer, you'll identify as a newborn believer and you will do the things of a newborn-again believer. You understand what I'm saying? So your identity makes up so many things that you do in life. It makes up whether you pray, how you pray, whether you're fearful in your prayer, whether you're believing in your prayer, whether you're understanding your prayer, whether you're studying your word of God, whether you value it, even your identity determines your value system. Right. Do I value God? Do I value community? Do I value friendship? Do I value not see value performance? Do I value you know all these things? So it's important for us to understand our identity because if not, man, we will struggle in so many different things, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's true. I had on this little session. Um, so what are the signs of not knowing your identity in Christ? So a few things that I have are lack of assurance in one's salvation, spiritual highs and lows. Um, your relationship with God is based on doing spiritual exercise exercises such as praying, studying, and fasting, because you fear God will not accept you. Um, you feel condemned often, you seek to be accepted by God after giving your life to Christ. Um, you seek unhealthy validation from peers, and the last thing I have is you see God as a dictator and not a father. You see, so there's a that right there is just a list of not knowing your identity in Christ. And imagine you one person can be going through all of this. Yeah, every single thing. Like, do you know what do you know what type of like affliction is going on in your mind just without knowing your identity in Christ? That's a man. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So you want to say something?

SPEAKER_02

Nah, I was just quoting Proverbs 23:7.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so your identity is so important, man. Um, it's very vital that if you don't know your identity, hang around people who do know their identity. And uh trust me, and this is why community is so important. No two people will go through the same thing at the same time. Everyone experiences life differently, everyone feedback off things differently. So when you're down, somebody in your community is up. Or somebody in your community may be doing better than you. So that's why you need people around you to remind you. The Bible says, Yeah, in and and and I showed this scripture to one of my friends the other day, and they they quoted it in church on Sunday in um Hebrews chapter 3, verse 13. And uh the writer of Hebrews says, exhort one another daily, so that you don't get carried away in the deceitfulness of sin. Or I'm paraphrasing, but it says exhort one another daily. That means exhortation is not something to be taken lightly because if taken lightly on one single day, that day the devil could deceive you. So it says daily be telling each other, hey, remember your identity. But you're more than conquerors. Hey, remember your identity. This situation is not unto death, but it's for the glory of God. Remember your identity that the devil meant this for evil, but God means it for good. Remember your so the the exhortation, yeah, but you can then only exhort in what you identify with. So that's very important. So, but anyway. Oh, it looks like my laptop, my iPad die. Anyway, the last thing that we're supposed to discuss is why do believers struggle to know their identity? This is a very big one. Why?

SPEAKER_02

I think it was a good couple of those two, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So um one thing that of course I know we're gonna hit on and we should hit on is I think one of the main reasons I said there are too many messages and not enough consistency. Right, yeah, right, yeah. Everyone has become a pastor. We glory, we would glory in this truth if we all had one message, right? But sadly, that isn't the case. So I'll say that again. One of the main reasons why we struggle with our identity is because there's too many messages and not a consistency of the truth. We would glory in the fact that there are so many pastors. We need a lot of pastors, but the issue is that everyone is a new pastor with a new rising truth, a new call of God, and a new different dimension, and there's not a consistency of the message. Not a uniform. In this case, we're doing more destruction to the body than good. We're doing more harm than good in the body of Christ. We have too many messages with a lack of foundational principles. Right. We don't understand baptism, we don't understand the Holy Spirit, we don't understand born again, but yet we say God has a call on my life, and brother, believe. But you don't identify with the foundational principles, which your foundation is built off of. You understand what I'm saying? So having different differing viewpoints is one thing, but failure to agree on the simplistic message of Christ is another. Oh my goodness. So when you fail to align with the simplicity of the message, wherever else we go and ascend into will determine your identity. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_03

You want to say yeah, dude. That literally goes with what I have here. It says the gospel is simple, but due to the viety of different messages, following Christ and walking in your identity almost feels impossible. I promise you, it almost feels impossible. It does, bro. I got another, I got something else here too. It says false doctrine leads to the ruin of the hearers and confusion within one's inner confidence about who they are in Christ. False what false doctrine is meant to do is supposed to, like we talked about earlier, suede you, bring you here, bring you there, bring you up, bring you down, but it never keeps you settled. It never keeps you in a place of complacency. It always takes you in a place where it's like, hmm, let me take you up there. Let me take you that way. Let me take you that way. One day you might be confident that you're in Christ. Tomorrow you might lose that assurance. Only because someone else told you, hey, did you know that you can lose your salvation? But you might go somewhere else. A pastor might tell you, Hey, did you know that you can't lose your salvation? Once you leave there, someone else might tell you, hey, do you know that once you fall short, God is God is waiting for you to repent and your repentance has to look a certain way.

SPEAKER_01

And if it doesn't, then you're not actually of him?

SPEAKER_03

There's so many different things that will suede you telling from the confidence that you have in Christ. But the gospel itself, it's simple. That Jesus Christ died for our sins, that he was buried, that he rose again after three days. And if you believe in that, what, Mike? You shall be saved. That's it right there. The righteous.

SPEAKER_02

And it was the question was why we how do we struggle, or why do we struggle? Yeah, why do believers struggle with their identity? I have five of them. I said, because the first battle in the scripture was an identity battle, not a behavioral battle. And I had that because I said that the fall of man began with identity confusion. It says that you didn't lose identity in failure, you lose identity because of conversations with deception. And then the second one I had was because our mind remembers who we were more easily than it accepts who we are now. Wow, that's true.

SPEAKER_01

Those are the two you can answer that question. Say the question again, Mike. Um can you just like quote it real quick? Which one? The third one.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, um, the what are the signs of not knowing your identity? Or why do people struggle to not know their identity?

SPEAKER_01

You can literally answer it with this scripture in Romans chapter 10. For they do for they don't understand God's way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God's way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. Now, that word law, obviously he's referring to the Mosaic law, but you can insert different things there. I'm not twisting the scripture because we do this. That may be reading your Bible at a certain time or looking like this certain pastor or doing this outward thing. And when you do that, when you confuse that and you don't cling to the simplicity of the gospel, then that's when what you explain happens. You're here, you're there, you're up, you're down. You ever try to go to a destination, you take three, four, five steps and then go back, then go left, then go right. It'll literally tire you out. And that's what Satan is trying to do. He's just rag dolling you because you don't have the simplicity, the simplicity of the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

And um and just to reiterate or emphasize or build upon what we're all saying, remember in 1 John chapter 4, verse 1, where it says, Beloved, do not believe all spirits, test all spirits, see whether they are of God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. And I have written down here, not every message is backed by the Holy Spirit or built on truth. This leads to many people being led astray and confused in their walk with Christ. I said I was a person who would constantly change my message and have to correct myself in my teachings because I was not studious, but rather opinionated on the platform. So many people struggle with their identity because pastors, preachers, teachers, whoever you are that is called of God, is coming with an opinionated version of the gospel. Well, but I think it means this. No, but now our identity is based on your opinion. Yeah, that's why people will say, like, or that's why you'll see people like somebody will say, You're never like I I remember, I'll never forget. There was one time a girl told me, and I to this day I still remember it. She was in my class, one of my college classes, and she said, one time my dad told me that I was, you know, a not a harlot, basically. She said, My dad told me I was a I was a harlot, and I slept with like 12 different men. By that time, the girl was like 18. So her identity was based off the opinion of another man. And many of us, even in the kingdom, how much more do you think it comes with the authority of Christ? That somebody is speaking back by what they call the power of God. So many of us, our identity is based on the opinion that somebody else has formed through the word of God.

SPEAKER_03

You see, so even that right there, even tells you another reason why people struggle to know their identity. Because there's a lot of things that people have spoken over our lives that we continuously meditated on those things and they became strongholds. So now when we came to accepting Christ, we see God is loving to us, and God is saying, Hey, you are loved, I love you, you are forgiven. You see, but you remember those times when your parent might have called you a disgrace. Yeah, you might remember those times where your parents said that you're useless. You see, those things continuously ring in your mind. So when it comes to accepting the love of Christ, it becomes hard.

SPEAKER_02

I had that. I said because identity confusion is reinforced by environment, not just internal thinking. Right. And I quoted with 1 Corinthians 15 33. Bad company corrupts good morale. Yep, bad company. If you're constantly surrounded by labels from people, opinions of cultures, and expectations of performance, your identity slowly gets reshaped without you noticing. Right. And environments repeat lies until they sound like truth.

SPEAKER_04

Right. So, and then what I have written down here is of course Matthew chapter 13, and many people don't realize this, but another reason why many people struggle with their identity is what I have written down. Matthew 13, from the verse 18 to the verse 23, when Paul, not Paul, when Jesus was talking about how we receive the word of God. And he talks about those who receive the word on the wayside, by the wayside, those who receive the word on stony ground, those who receive the word um and it's on solid ground. And those who receive the word the word and the cares of this life have taken away from them. I said we struggle to receive the word of God, and it is not because it is not truly rooted in us. This causes us to struggle in our walk, struggle with our identity because we are not rooted. If we are going to walk in our true identity, we will need to be rooted and grounded in the word of God. We cannot be tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine and by every tribulation that we are faced with. So many of us are not rooted and grounded in the truth of Jesus Christ. We're not rooted and grounded in the word because we don't have communities like this where we are able to say, hey guys, let's hop on the call, let's talk about the word of God, let's renew our minds in the truth of God. Many people are isolated in their thoughts, being taught by social media, being taught by TikTok, being taught by some new person with a new revelation. We don't know who he is, we don't know where they got it from. And that's their identity. And if that's gonna be continue to be your identity, you're gonna be a harm to yourself and a harm to so many other people.

SPEAKER_01

I also want to say one thing. There's this weird thing going on like on social media, and it has been for like the last five-ten years, that like isolation is cool, like going in a corner and being by yourself is like is cool, but that's like literally Satan because if you don't have any reinforcement from people around you, and this literally was created by God for this reason, and you want to be isolated and you want to be a cool guy, like in a corner. Um Satan can have his way with you, right?

SPEAKER_04

And people glorify the isolation season, like everybody will go through the isolation season, bro. How long is that? Isolation is a good thing. You've been isolated for six years. And some people when they some people they become too isolated, they become weird, right? They become too weird to even hang around. Right. Listen, these people were together every day. This thing that we call isolation, these men were together every day. Right. I I'm not saying I'm I'm not an advocate for isolation, that you may need times to be alone with you and God. Even somebody today, I was going through something, and I asked them, can you pray with me? And they say, Yeah, but don't forget to pray on your own. And I was like, dang. Like, yeah, because sometimes we forget. But what I'm saying is that listen, we're not disagreeing that there's need for isolation, but I think some people are too isolated. Right. Some people are too for themselves, like we need community, you know what I mean? So, and I've learned that so much more than ever, and I'm challenging myself to build myself around community. But anyway, that was this episode of Zen14 Podcast. Uh, this is a really good episode, a really great episode. I think many people will be helped by this message, be helped by this truth. If you're struggling with your identity, you're out there, you don't know who you are, you don't know what you are in Christ Jesus. Feel free to send us a message, send us a DM, send us an email, comment on one of the TikTok posts, one of the shorts, the reels, anything that you see, reach out to any of us. Our information will be linked in the description. You can reach out to us on social media, and we will be free to help you. But we really hope that this episode blessed you, that you're blessed by God, that you have a good day, great week, great weekend, great night, great morning, whatever time zone you're in, may God bless you richly. Amen. And if you want to show a seed into our lives, no, I'm kidding. We don't need your money.

SPEAKER_01

But you give it every episode at the end, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. God bless you, he's not kidding. And we hope and pray that we'll see you on the next episode. Amen. Shalom.