Dialing In with Brett

18. should i curse my enemies or just hex them?? ft. a witch

• Brett Hamilton Productions • Season 1 • Episode 18

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This week on Dialing In with Brett, Brett admits to changing his mind about Halloween, reminds his listeners he has a college degree, and dials in a witch.


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SPEAKER_05:

Hi, this is Brett. I was dialing you in because I had a question. I there's no way. Hello? What a dick. I can't even like I can't even be fuck with those teeth. Happy Halloween. I feel like we've done six Halloween episodes. I also was gonna like do a full costume in this episode, but then I ended up doing full drag last episode, so I'm like, we're uh witch's hat will do. Which witch, which actually works out great because we are having a witch on this episode. Happy Halloween, y'all. Welcome back to an episode of Dialing In with Bret. This is episode 17.

SPEAKER_03:

Might even be 18.

SPEAKER_05:

Shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Because I'm 18 and I still listen to Dialing In with Brett.

SPEAKER_05:

Nice. Um, how are we? I feel like I I was gonna say, I feel like I haven't talked to y'all in so long. I say that every single episode, and it's like I've recorded an episode two days ago. I've done nothing but fucking talk to y'all. Since I saw you last, I had my Halloween party. There's a vlog out tomorrow from the Halloween party. Y'all, we got crazy. It was so funny because we had the decoration set up on like Tuesday, which was cobwebs all over my house. And they were probably like dangling about like four feet high, and so I did have to like bend most. I had to bend not crouch.

SPEAKER_03:

Throwing a party is crazy because you do it all and then it's just over.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

Also, the fact that we did a Halloween party and now it's still not even Halloween. I'm like, it's no, it's over. Yeah. Like we've done, we had our party, rip this shit down, get these bats out of my fucking house, but we still haven't gotten Halloween yet. Which I will be spending insert throw-up in mouth noise in Vegas. I'm going to Vegas this weekend with my like friend group, which will be as terrifying because I've only been to Vegas for like work-related things, and I like got so fucking drunk. And that was with like work people. So the fact that I will be there with like actual friends, like I'm I'm doing a a um detox. I'm doing a two-week detox where I'm not drinking.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel like to detox, you have to do more than just not drink. You have to like put something else.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, obviously, I'm still gonna drink. Are you gonna do the cabbage soup detox? No.

SPEAKER_03:

Juice cleanse?

SPEAKER_05:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't know exactly what I'll be detoxing myself from alcohol unless there's any like social outing that involves alcohol. Then I will obviously have to drink a little bit. On my hinge, it's like drink sometimes, smokes sometimes.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, you have drinks sometimes? Yeah. I have yes.

SPEAKER_05:

Actually, I might have yes smoking sometimes.

SPEAKER_03:

When someone says sometimes, like, okay, now I feel like you just made it weird. Well, I feel like why does that have to be on your profile at all?

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I do and then like the pill.

SPEAKER_05:

Pills is if you have pills on your hinge profile, you're fucking insane.

SPEAKER_02:

Pills, yes, is like like pills, yes, but they're um allergies.

SPEAKER_03:

Your birth control pill.

SPEAKER_05:

That's like it's like pills, yes. It's like drinking never.

SPEAKER_03:

It's like, what do you if the pills is supposed to signify drugs? I feel like there could be a different like clip art photo other than a pill.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. And it's also like which ones.

SPEAKER_02:

What comes in pill form?

SPEAKER_03:

Brett's like Adderall and Molly.

SPEAKER_05:

I actually don't know. I don't really take it. I mean just Molly. Is Molly a pill? I don't know. One of them you put on your tongue. I think that's Molly.

SPEAKER_02:

Like a tab of acid.

SPEAKER_05:

Ugh, fuck a tab of acid would go crazy right now. I'm not myself unless I'm a tab of acid.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you ever have those? This is big in junior high, those like breath mint like tabs. Oh. That literally like were pretty much acid and you put them on your tongue.

SPEAKER_05:

Are you talking about Listerine strips?

SPEAKER_03:

No. Wait, yeah. There's no bug. You put it on your tongue and then it makes your mouth mint.

SPEAKER_05:

In your defense, Listerine strips is like the closest thing we have to acid that's not acid because it's like really an experience.

SPEAKER_03:

But it comes in a tab that dissolves on your tongue.

SPEAKER_05:

And maybe we're talking about different things. These are like a strip that you like have like you pop open a thing and you like pull it out of that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. A tab that you put on your tongue that dissolves your body.

SPEAKER_05:

Tab is crazy. It's like a f filtery A filtery tab.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

A tab? I'm thinking of like a pill. No. Pills, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

No, tabs are like it looks like paper kind of.

SPEAKER_05:

That's a tab?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

That's a that's a sheet of paper.

SPEAKER_03:

I just want to say that I started editing the episode that I was gone for. These two.

SPEAKER_05:

Holly's like so insecure that like all the comments are gonna be like, why is the chemistry between Brett and Bailey so much stronger when Holly's not there?

SPEAKER_02:

I've decided to take a backseat for this episode and be quiet since I'm so prominent on the last episode.

SPEAKER_05:

We were so dumb in the last episode. Truly, I don't know how much you're gonna cut, but you guys are gonna think like I'm just reminding you guys. Oh fuck, it's not even there. I have a degree. That's not even my real degree either. Hey, look behind me. That's a fucking degree.

SPEAKER_03:

Will you tell them about our shot collar idea?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, or should it just be a surprise? No, honestly, no one fucking listens. No one listens to it now. No one's gonna listen to that episode. Oh kidding. Um, I say like so much in a way that I'm like, I'm sound seemingly so unintelligent, which is also true, but I'm also like using the word like every six seconds doesn't help with that. So I'm going to stop saying the word like. I need to put a sticky note here that says no likes.

SPEAKER_03:

But if that doesn't work, we're gonna get another.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh no, so yeah, so I did tell uh Bailey to order an adult shock collar because I'm gonna do an episode where every single time I say like, unless I'm comparing two things and use like correctly, then I'm going to get shocked. And it's like that's insane. Yeah, well, I also need to kick this habit. It's nasty.

SPEAKER_03:

And turns out they don't sell adult shock collars on Amazon.

SPEAKER_05:

So we're gonna be doing like a kinky BDSM website. And it's gonna be like a sex thing, but it's not a not everything has to be sexual. Sorry, me going into a sex shop. Not all this is sexual, they have it's multi-purpose, multi-use, okay? So yeah, I'm gonna get a bedazzled shock collar. Wow. Um, for an episode, and you guys are just gonna watch me get shocked to completion.

SPEAKER_03:

Imagine it's the most watched episode.

SPEAKER_05:

Kink cam, kidding. Anyways, not sexual related sexually driven. I do want to say LA influencers caught some heat by a New York influencer this week. They said LA influencers are flaky, which, like, yeah, I'm flaky as hell, and I don't think that's an issue. Like, that's not that bad. Like, oh, you're gonna make a video about how we're flaky, okay. I don't think that has anything. Well, I also, yeah, I don't think it's specific to like influences, but it is bad.

SPEAKER_03:

It is like something that our generation is getting really bad about.

SPEAKER_05:

But I also like who cares? I actually don't even know what I want to say about this, but I do think being flaky is just like who cares? Like genuinely grow up, like, oh my god, who like we got everyone's got so much shit going on, like why do you care that much anyways? Like, I would never like leave someone high and dry alone at a restaurant, but it's like if I cancel on someone like five hours early and I see them like five times a week, like I really don't feel like horrible. And like maybe that makes me a bad person, but I also am like I if anyone cancels on me last minute, I really don't care at all.

SPEAKER_03:

But I think her thing was like a prefixed event that people said that they were going to that just Oh yeah, well that's actually crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

But I don't think that's like specific to LA influencers, so I think that's crazy to like catch astray.

SPEAKER_02:

In the spirit of Halloween, you guys know that TikTok trend where people are like when you're running from the serial killer, but you turn around and it's fill in the blank, and then they start like walking towards the camera, like stripping. Yeah, to that song. Who is the person where it's like it's like a celebrity?

SPEAKER_05:

Too many trends.

SPEAKER_02:

That's like my job. You're literally like research trends, and then I do, and you're like, This is before I told you to research trends.

SPEAKER_05:

Did I I need to add this clip to the BTS dump of I have been saying this about them recently, which someone already made a fucking video for. She's actually that girl's so funny. But it will be like the your friend who says like the most niche reference ever. Like, you know, you remember in like 2008 when blah blah blah, yes you do. What in this was there? You don't remember yeah, you do. Okay, let me and it's like, no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, but that's crazy because like I don't even have Twitter. So if I know these things, you should too.

unknown:

I don't go on Twitter.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, back like what I was saying. Who's the celebrity where to you, both of you, it's like they're running after you with a knife, but it's blank, so can you fill in the blank for mine, Brad?

SPEAKER_05:

Joe, Josh, Josh Hutcherson.

SPEAKER_03:

I haven't spoken about my crush on him here yet.

SPEAKER_05:

You don't need to.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, Joe Curie in his Steve Harrington costume. Thanks.

SPEAKER_05:

Go on.

SPEAKER_03:

That's a minor.

SPEAKER_05:

Like most people.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_03:

No, it's not. Yes, he is. He's in high school. Steve is not in high school.

SPEAKER_05:

He is in the show, so. That is a third. Predatory behavior, predatory behavior.

SPEAKER_02:

Steve Harrington is 17.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_03:

No, like, yeah, I think he is. Okay, Brett, who's yours?

SPEAKER_05:

Like, who is my celebrity crush?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, who is it? Like, this could be anybody. This could be like a movie character, a real celebrity, uh, an IRL even, who they're chasing after you with a knife, but you're like, uh, I'm coming back.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, genuinely like most people. Um. I don't know. I mean, like, my celebrity crush is Theo James, if that helps.

SPEAKER_03:

You've never talked about him.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I never talk about my celebrity crushes because I'm living in the moment with my friends.

SPEAKER_02:

Who had the best costume at your Halloween party?

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like going through everyone's costume in my head right now.

SPEAKER_03:

Tristan is Megan.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh yeah, my friend Tristan dressed up as Megan, um, which was great. And like when he would do the little dance thing, that was fun. That was fun. He also dressed up as Ma last year, which I also think is so fucking funny. So he's two for two.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you want to talk about the heist?

SPEAKER_05:

I like don't know enough about the heist. Like, I didn't research it at all. Basically, just I know people stole from the loot.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the whole story.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And people, our generation has kind of been romanticizing it. I've seen a lot of like edits to robbers by the 1975. That song's always gonna do it for the city.

SPEAKER_03:

There's footage of them like leaving on like a crane-like thing. Oh my god. I don't think they've been caught. But I saw a TikTok today that was like one direction if they robbed the Louvre, and it's like an edit, and it's like a picture of handcuffs, and then like a black and white picture of Harry. Do we know what they took? They took a necklace. They took a few things, I think.

SPEAKER_05:

I might buy the necklace. Wait, the necklace is cute. I really think like imagine robbing the Louvre, like that level of adrenaline, like when you would ding-dong ditch when you were like 11, and then you would go back to the person's house after, and you were like, I feel fucking invincible. Imagine that, but you just stole like a hundred million dollars worth of like the biggest. Like, I would be I would be on live, I would be texting everyone. I know.

SPEAKER_03:

What would like your song be when you're about to go rob the lube? And then what would your exit song be?

SPEAKER_05:

Do you have one like lined up?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, robbers would be awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

Mine would be robbers leaving, but if I was entering, it would probably be lucky I got what I want by jungle.

SPEAKER_03:

Nice.

SPEAKER_05:

We should rob something. Have you guys ever stole? Yeah. No, I'm kidding. I'm actually a pussy, or just a good person, I guess. Um, but one time I popped a tag where I one of my friends got me a vineyard vine sweater for my birthday, which I was like, that's fucking crazy. We were in like we were like sophomores in high school, which obviously she just ran her parents' credit card, but I'm like, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever. Um, but it was way too small because she got on clearance. And so then I went back and I was like, oh, just like exchange it for something else. Everything else is like so much more expensive full price. I did actually take uh one of the full price sweaters and then put a different tag on it, and then went to an old lady in Wasn't it at Von Mars? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

They're like the only place in Iowa that sells everything.

SPEAKER_05:

And that was my fucking like Louvre heist. Like I was like, holy shit. I didn't feel that bad because I'm like, Vineyard Vine prices are like outstanding. Like that's insane. No one shows.

SPEAKER_02:

Also, they're gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, Vineyard Vines will be okay. But that's the closest thing I got to stealing.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you interested in talking about how the Dodgers are in the World Series right now? What are three things that you like?

SPEAKER_05:

I like fashion, I like interior design, I like writing, I like hiking. Yeah, y'all make me feel like I'm a horrible person. I have hobbies, I just don't like watching.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think you're a horrible person if you don't have hobbies.

SPEAKER_05:

And like Halloween.

unknown:

You do know.

SPEAKER_05:

I just don't like the same things y'all like. And that's okay, because I love y'all. Cut. Not that I love y'all, but I do feel like we have very different interests.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Like what?

SPEAKER_05:

Like y'all like sports betting.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what I'm craving?

SPEAKER_05:

What?

SPEAKER_02:

I was gonna say I'm craving like a soup that's roasted for 10 hours in a crock pot right now.

SPEAKER_05:

You're the only one capable of making something like that.

SPEAKER_03:

So baby, it has to be- I can't make soup because it's gonna be 90 degrees in LA this week. In this like, witch talk episode, I don't want to speak it into existence, but I have had a thought.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like scared.

SPEAKER_03:

With how much you keep your back door open, I can't believe you haven't had any mice in your home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I've always thought that.

SPEAKER_03:

Because I've seen mice like buy your trash. I don't know how they don't get into your home.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay, well don't I don't claim this energy. Um Have you ever had a mouse?

SPEAKER_02:

In your house?

SPEAKER_03:

Like in your house.

SPEAKER_05:

Stop manifesting mice in my house.

SPEAKER_03:

No, I don't want there to be a mouse. It's just like I feel like things like that, just like if I lived in this house, I would be so stressed about. But like for what? Because you could just not be stressed about it and also not get mice.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Two things can be true.

SPEAKER_03:

And that goes back to our differing anxieties.

SPEAKER_05:

See, I think that is like the have we talked about on the podcast, or is that just separately?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast.

SPEAKER_05:

We always say that we have like the complete opposite anxieties, and the things that the girls are anxious about, I'm not, but the things I'm anxious about the girls aren't.

SPEAKER_03:

But we do have different anxieties. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

We need to come together and be all of our anxieties. We need to learn from one of the things. Is there any?

SPEAKER_03:

But I hate being around people that have the same anxieties as me. Because I feel like it really like.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it's like, no, only one of us can be anxious about this. Pick a different thing. Yeah, I probably should be more anxious about like parking situations, given my track record.

SPEAKER_02:

What's your anxieties?

SPEAKER_05:

I don't know what am I anxious about that y'all aren't.

SPEAKER_03:

We've talked about this before, but I can't remember what the yours seem to be more like relationship driven.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh yeah. Well, yeah, I don't give a shit about other things. Like, oh, my car gets towed. Yeah, that will suck. My friends don't fuck with me. Well.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, that's a normal thing to be anxious about, I feel like. Or your anxieties are like kind of more they're like bigger, overarching life themes. Like, I feel like I'm not, I feel like I haven't accomplished enough. Whatever.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

But mine are more like, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

What happens if we park on the street overnight? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

What are yours, Bailey?

SPEAKER_05:

Your big three.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I kind of just have like an overarching guilt complex where I like think I'm in the wrong all the time. Half the time I am, but like I like feel, I just like always feel like shame and guilt, which I think a lot of times people say that derives from like growing up Christian. I stopped going to church when I was four, so I don't really know why.

SPEAKER_05:

Christian guilt.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. But it's fun. I like it.

SPEAKER_05:

It's fun. You know what? You love it. Am I in the wrongly every single fucking second?

SPEAKER_02:

No, genuinely. Genuinely.

SPEAKER_05:

Next, we will be dialing in a witch. Oh my god. Forgot that like I was wearing the witch. That's actually kind of like on brand. Did you all notice that? Know that? They were like, maybe you could wear a witch hat. I'm like, sure, I'll fucking throw on a witch hat. I'm like, we can actually get into it early. I'm dialing in a witch. So I am just curious about spells. I really like don't know if I believe in spells and magic, but like baby at this point, fuck it. I I will believe about anything. If there's anything that's like, oh, this could help you find love. Sign me the fuck up. If it's shady, I don't give a crap. Crap. I was like, I just said fuck. I can't say fuck twice in a row. I don't give a fuck. Um, but and also like, you know, there are a few moments uh I had a few desperate moments where I've done some like weird shit that I've seen on TikTok that it's like, this is how you can get that person to finally fall in love with you. So I just I need to like ask her if I just wasted my time. I think I already told the story about how I dug a hole and wrote I will marry this person 17 times and then buried it in my front yard um when I had three random girl roommates. Um that still hasn't come true. So I just want to pick her brain about that, what I can be doing. Also, obviously, I have some ops out there. I don't know if my ops are strong enough where I need to put a curse on them yet. But it's nice to keep on the back in my back pocket where it's like, I mean, like, it's nice to know. It's always good if you like me to put a hex on someone's family. That's an option. So I guess we'll just kind of walk her through that. I really don't know what to expect. I haven't I don't have a lot of experiences with witches randomly. Um curse versus hex. Let me write it down with one of these unsharpened pencils. Okay, curse versus hex. What's the difference? Um, okay, what's the deal with curses and hexes? Um, no, I do, yeah, that is good to know. Because I'm like, maybe I don't want to put a hex on someone's family, but like a cur like a curse, I feel like is just like, oh, like, oh shit, your life is gonna be horrible. But like a hex is like, oh, immediate impending danger. A curse is like, damn, yeah, that sucked, didn't it? Yeah, well, maybe you shouldn't have done. Anyway, I might put a few curses, maybe a few hexes, and hopefully, God fucking willing a love spell. I need to like, I don't think it's gonna happen organically, me finding love. Uh, so someone will need to be put under a deep and dark spell. Anyway, dialing in a fucking TikTok witch. I am gonna say which witch am I speaking?

SPEAKER_01:

Hello.

SPEAKER_05:

Hi, Sophie. Hi, how are you?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm good. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_05:

I'm great. I'm very excited to be talking to you today. You are the first and only witch on this podcast.

SPEAKER_04:

So oh my gosh, I feel so honored.

SPEAKER_05:

I know. I'm I'm very excited. Let's just let's just jump right into it because I have a ton of questions. What is like your magical upbringing? Have you always been a witch and had witch tendencies, or did you develop that later on in life?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so I was actually raised by um Hellenic polytheists. So my parents grew up kind of like worshiping and working with like Greek gods. Um, my stepmom is also like a hoodoo practitioner, and my dad like professionally does astrology. So like he teaches classes about it, and I grew up doing magic my whole life.

SPEAKER_05:

So are y'all all witches or are you the only witch?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I don't know if my dad would identify as a witch, but my stepmom definitely is. Um, so definitely us two are witches for sure.

SPEAKER_05:

And what exactly, like, what are the precursors to becoming a witch?

SPEAKER_01:

I honest, I I honestly get asked that a lot on my page by people. I feel like there's this really big misconception that you have to be like born into a magical family or have some sort of like bloodline to be a witch. But in my opinion, the only thing that makes you a witch is like actively choosing to take up the craft and to like practice magic, in my in my opinion. I think learning and choosing to do it is what in fact makes you a witch.

SPEAKER_05:

And how do you practice that? It's like drills and stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, drills.

SPEAKER_05:

You run in drills.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I mean, like it's it's a study, right? It's it's an academic practice. Um, something I recommend to people who are just starting out is learning about herbs and herbal associations that are good for certain things.

SPEAKER_05:

Is that mostly for spells?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Do you grow herbs? Mostly for spells. I honestly I can't keep anything alive to save my life. I have like horrible ADHD and so I will just like forget that I own a plant for like a month.

SPEAKER_05:

Obviously, murdered my like big plant that I dropped way too much money on. It's completely dead now. But like it's not my fault. How often do you do love spells?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my god. Fucking every day. Am I allowed to say the F word? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

But you do a ton of fucking love spells and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I do, yes. That is probably like my most ordered product on my site. Everybody wants to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05:

You can buy it, I can buy it for purchase.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm trying to expand like my price range to make things more accessible for people because my rituals are like a little bit on like the higher end, but I'm introducing like some new dart spells that are a lot like cheaper for people to give people like other options.

SPEAKER_05:

Magic ain't cheap.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's not. I use taper candles, which are expensive, and like between like 20 different herbs and oils and crystals. Also, it's it's a very labor-intensive process. Like, I don't think people realize how much time and work and like prep actually goes into doing a spell. I think a single spell can take me between like three and four hours, like on like the low end to come.

SPEAKER_05:

Wait, so what is that process like?

SPEAKER_01:

So, like someone will reach out to me and tell me that like they ordered a spell from me or like that they're interested in it. We'll talk about it, they'll place their order. Let's just say, like, for a love spell, I'll have them send me their full name and their birth name, and then the full name and the birthday of their partner, and then their specific intentions for the spell. Um, and then the next step is generally to write out a petition, which is basically kind of like a magical, I don't know, letter, letter to the gods about like what you want to happen. After that, I normally prep the candles. So I'll write everyone's names and birthdays on the candles. And usually for like a love spell, I'll have to like bind them together. Um, and then I put my ingredients and I speak my intentions into it. Um, and I just kind of sit in my altar space and then I talk to the spell. Um, I feel like honestly, my approach to magic is a little bit different than some people's. I just talked to my spells like they're a girlfriend, or like I'm just having kind of like a heart-to-heart chat with them. I know a lot of people like make their incantations rhyme and stuff, but I can't rhyme to save my fucking life.

SPEAKER_05:

Also, it's like if you don't have to rhyme, like why the fuck would you like what's the point? Like, if I could just get it across just talking normally, like why do I need to be like ripping bars right now?

SPEAKER_01:

No, I mean, like, it's about it's all about the energy you're putting into it. I cuss out my spells all the time. Yeah. I once had I once did a spell for this lady who wanted her sugar daddy on OnlyFans to like unblock her. And I like just like yelled at the candle for like an hour.

SPEAKER_05:

I was like, Unblock her?

SPEAKER_01:

He did unblock her. Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_05:

Obviously, when you're putting out like the energies and spells, regardless of the type of spell, are there any like side effects or like if have you ever done a love spell that has gone wrong?

SPEAKER_01:

And honestly, not really. Um, I think backfire is actually like a really big myth in the community. It's a very like wicken kind of idea. Um, that like, oh, if you put out negative intentions, they'll come back to you. Um, it's a question I get especially with like uh justice spells. Um, I do free justice workings for SA and D V survivors that were able to eat, yeah, like results through the justice system. Um, and that's something that people ask me a lot. They're like, is it gonna come back to me in a bad way? And like, I guess what I'll say is I'm a very experienced witch and I have very disciplined like cleansing and protection practices. And I've never like cast a spell for someone that has come back to them in a negative way, like, or for myself.

SPEAKER_05:

What about like we had a question about hexes and curses? Are they the same thing? And also, do you practice either of those?

SPEAKER_01:

Hexes are definitely more of kind of like a temporary inconvenience, I'd say. Curses are a little bit more. Yeah. Well curses.

SPEAKER_05:

We'll hear you out.

SPEAKER_01:

Curses are a little bit more permanent and binding. Um I don't really do, I don't really do hexes, honestly, because like I feel like if someone I don't throw out curses and hexes pedally. Like if someone pisses me off, I'm not gonna like curse them or whatever. Like I only curse like murderers and like rapists and like really, really bad people.

SPEAKER_05:

And like guys who have left led me on for like a couple months.

SPEAKER_01:

I always leave my curses pretty open-ended because I think they're more effective that way, and it leaves it a little bit more up to kind of like the divine or the spirits and like what they think is best. So that's generally kind of my rule of thumb. I also do that to avoid like in case anyone like tries to get me to curse someone and is like lying about something that they did, like it only sends like what they did back. So, like, for example, if someone asked me to like curse someone claiming that like they hurt them and they didn't, like it just like wouldn't work on them too.

SPEAKER_05:

So this question is probably gonna be worded so poorly, but what are your thoughts on like fate, if that makes sense, since like what you are doing is kind of like changing fate. Does that like what are your thoughts on all of that?

SPEAKER_01:

My dad would have a much better answer to this question because he studies like you know, divination and stuff. Um, but there are kind of I guess like different different forms of fate. Uh, we do have fate that we're kind of like born into, but there's also um ones that are sort of like more more malleable. I think also people people ask me that sort of thing in regards to like love spells a lot specifically. I feel like there's a lot of people who have concerns about love spells interfering with like free will and things of that nature. Um, and I try to explain spells, especially love spells this way to people specifically. Like what I'm doing is not real like changing how someone feels, if that makes sense. It's kind of spells are sort of like an energetic catalyst for an event to occur. So what I'm doing is kind of like making the vibes the best possible for the outcome that you want, if that makes sense. It's more kind of like energy manipulation than like actually like I don't know, making something happen or like changing fate, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05:

Like if you had a limited resources, unlimited funds, and you could just like take everyday people in and just do like a general spell for them, which spell would you do?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's such a good question. Um definitely like healing workings for sure. I feel like even though people don't come to me for that, it's mostly like love spells are money. Like I I feel like healing magic is some of the most effective and just something that everyone probably needs a little bit of. Um, especially for people who struggle like really severely with like PTSD or like chronic illnesses. Um, like I definitely would do more healing workings for people. It's just they don't, they don't ask. They don't ask. They want to get back with their ex. They want to curse their other ex.

SPEAKER_04:

Like it's, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm actually doing an ongoing project where I do free justice workings for S A and D V survivors. The forum is currently closed just because I've kind of met the maximum amount of like occupants I can do in the next little bit. But I will be opening it back up after Halloween. Um, and I'm I'm just really glad that it's something that I get to do for people because like it's just kind of my way of giving back to the community. I know when I was going through what I went through, that like I didn't really have any answers. And it was very frustrating for me to like not have the justice system or the legal system, like you know, to be able to get justice or have things be set right that way. Um, and so I'm trying to kind of like pay it forward and offer that back to people.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's so great and cool. And I'm happy you're on here so other people can hear about it too. What is next for you, like as a witch? Like, are you practicing anything new? Are there any spells that you're like learning now or kind of what's next for you?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so my schedule's been very busy. I'm currently in my like senior year of college.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh my god. That's crazy. You're doing all this and also at school.

SPEAKER_01:

I Yes, it's it's a lot. I will be releasing some new like jar working soon. There's a full moon in Taurus coming up on November 5th. Um, and I'm gonna be making some jar spells to help with like sleep, um, and also like some anti-anxiety stuff.

SPEAKER_05:

And I have anxiety. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you might have to check it out.

SPEAKER_05:

You might have to check it out.

SPEAKER_01:

I actually my blue-collar boyfriend is helping me, so I'm like blue-collar boyfriend's fucking hysterical. It's such a stereotype, and the it's like the witchy bisexual and the blue boyfriend.

SPEAKER_05:

Like that's like the dream, dream couple, blue-collar boyfriend, bisexual, witchy girlfriend, like bug.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, he's helping me set up um like a new live streaming setup. I'm running out of space too. Like, I have so much shit here, and like I just kind of need a bigger workspace. So he's helping me build one later this week, and I'm excited about that too.

SPEAKER_05:

But um, well, I'm so excited for you. I feel like I mean, you're doing so many things and so many cool things and so many good things and helping out so many people, which is so great. Also, like being a fucking full-time student that blows my mind. Maybe if someone is interested in, you know, starting to do some light magic just at home, or even just kind of like manifestations, etc., just general good vibes. What would you suggest they do?

SPEAKER_01:

I would definitely suggest lots of research, um, diversifying your information sources. I would also say, like, please avoid using AI. Please avoid using Chat GPT to do spell research. Not only is it like awful for the environment, but also chat GPT literally like makes shit up like all the time, especially in regards to like witchcraft stuff. Um, some good books that I'd recommend are The Green Witch Um and Occult Botany. I think learning about herbs for spells and personal uses is like a great place to start. If you're interested in Greek magic specifically and like finding symbols to use in workings or working with the Greek gods, the Pikatrix is a great text that's actually rooted in like traditional Greek magic. Um, I also feel if you're interested in like Greek deities specifically, just like getting a children's book about the myths is like, I know it sounds like so stupid, but it's a good kind of like simple way to learn.

SPEAKER_05:

If you want to plug yourself in your channels and any final thoughts you have or want us to know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely. Um, so my TikTok and my Instagram are both Sagmoon Magic. It's S-A-G-M-O-O-N Magic. Um, and if you're interested in spell work, you can also contact me at Sagmoon Magic at gmail.com as well. Um, we have a very welcoming community online. Um, not there's not a lot of toxic witch witch talk bullshit in my community. Everyone is very, very nice. Um, so feel free to stop on by. I go live pretty much like every day to just do my makeup and do spell work and stuff. So come check me out if you're interested and come say hi. And don't be scared if you're new. We we love we love newbies, we welcome anyone, anyone from any spiritual background is welcome as well. There's actually a lot of like Christian witches in my community too. So like anyone and everyone is welcome. Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_05:

Thank you so much, Sophie. Happy, happy witch witching to you.

SPEAKER_01:

Happy witching.

SPEAKER_05:

All right. Well, I love and appreciate you, and I'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for having me on. All right, I like do want to know more.

SPEAKER_05:

I kind of want to like get into witch witchcraft. Yeah, I know. Bailey had one time set out. But uh when you set out water for me, Holly, you, and the guy was and the person I was hooking up with. Like, you're a good person. Um my life has been horrible ever since, but um, it's because I didn't set my intentions. I should have asked more about digging the hole in writing. I will marry XXXXX 17 times. It does it doesn't sound like it hurts. Like that's the thing, like, even if magic doesn't work, it doesn't hurt. Yeah, so I might as well just be do it like digging holes. This bitch, this backyard about me look like holes. Call me zero because I am digging this bitch up. Um, anyways, wow, that was great. I feel like inspired, but like I'm probably not gonna do anything except for maybe reach out to her in like three months to like have someone fall in love with me, but I'm like, damn. Wizard wizardry is it? Witchery, witchcraft. I'm collecting herbs and doing a potion. You're pissed off at me. Bitch, I'm making potions in my backyard and digging up a hole in you guys know it. And you also love it. Am I in the wrong? My 26M girlfriend 24F. 26M girlfriend 24F got bored during the lockdowns last year, so did I, and has and has gained an obsession with witchcraft. She keeps saying that she's a witch, I believe her, and she has filled our house with herbs, candles, crystals, rune sets, what, and weird trinkets. At first I didn't care because I thought it was a temporary thing, but I was very wrong.

SPEAKER_03:

Why are you shaking like a leaf?

SPEAKER_05:

My hand or my body? Your hand. Oh, I don't know. Because I have a condition. Probably, maybe. I need to get tested. I keep just saying I need to get tested, like just open-handedly. I think just about anything I need to get tested. She gets up at three in the morning just to do rituals and spells or whatever it is witches do. My girlfriend burns so much A incense that it gives me a headache and makes our house smell strange. I hate it. She also tries to make me drink random herbal teas that taste like shit. I really was trying to be supportive, but it's starting to frustrate me. A few hours ago, I came home from work, and as soon as she saw me, she told me that she sensed bad energy. I'm gonna start doing that. Uh, and started spraying, in all caps, some mist thing on me. So I might have snapped and told her that she was acting crazy and she needed to let this witch thing go because she's not a fucking real witch. Wow. My girlfriend was offended and told me I wasn't a supportive boyfriend, that I was acting disrespectful towards her beliefs, and now she's refusing to talk to me until I apologize. Now I wish I didn't say anything. Am I in the wrong? Lot to unpack here. Here's the thing. Uh do I believe in magic? Well, like, kind of, but like could I ever date a witch? I don't know. I don't think I need it like in my house. I think that could be kind of a lot. Like, again, I believe in magic, I believe witches, but I think I don't need to be that close to the source, and I do think that could be tricky if someone I was dating just like kind of picked up witchcraft, even though, like, honestly, after the call, I'm I believe it, I'm here for it. But again, I don't need it in my house. Similar to a lot of things where I'm like, baby, if you want to run a marathon, great, but we're gonna well, let's take a break. Like, I don't need to date someone who's running a marathon or training to run a marathon. Like, I don't that's too close to home. I feel unsafe in my own home now. If one of my friends is training to run a marathon, I fucking love that. I support that. Keep it outside, keep your ASIC, check your ASICs at the door, check your Brooks running shoes at the door. Similar to this, I'm like, I I love you, I love you so much. Let's just keep the sage outside. Obviously, you know, want to be a sport of white run and everything. But like also, like, this is semi-harmless. But then if I were in his position, I think it would get to a point where I'm like, okay, I I mean like saying she's fucking crazy and not a fucking real witch, like let's calm the fuck down, baby. But also, like, I do think like when someone just randomly picks up a hobby or interest that they haven't always have, and it becomes a big part of their identity. Again, you can run a fucking marathon, but not in this house. But then also, like, normalize women having hobbies, normalize learning witchcraft. Remember the episode, the Christianity episode when like the guy's dad died, and then it was like, oh now he's like fully Christian and like kind of shaming her for not being Christian. It's like the switch up sometimes is tough. Where it's like, I get you have this interest and hobby, and I want to support you, but also like baby, like you need to stop saying I have like the room has bad energy every single time I walk into it. That's actually so fucking fun. I'm literally gonna like start saying I'm a witch and telling everyone they have horrible energy because that's fun. And let's do more of it.

SPEAKER_02:

He probably did have bad energy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I'm sure he did. It's a straight man, they don't have good energy.

SPEAKER_02:

That's the thing, too, is it's like he's like mad about the smell of incense. Okay, well, I bet you shower once a week.

SPEAKER_05:

No, I know. I'm like, I'm sure if I got to know the guy, I'd be like 100% of the woman is completely in the right. Like, he probably has so many annoying hobbies that it's like.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, like I bet he's talking about crypto.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't care.

SPEAKER_05:

I bet he's like making NFTs, so it's like I'm sure he sucks.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

But I mean, I'm I'm just taking it as is as face value. I do think he needs to show a little bit more grace, but she also needs to maybe ease up, and maybe this is kind of her thing, and she just kind of does it on her own, and he's less involved, and spraying gets gets sprayed less.

SPEAKER_02:

Kind of sounds like you're saying E-S-H. Everyone sucks here.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. E-X-H.

SPEAKER_03:

E-S-H.

SPEAKER_05:

E-S-H. Is that a term? People use that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so people either say Y T A What? So the assholes.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, okay. You're not. Oh, from like the segment that I thought I made, uh, but it's actually just completely copied.

SPEAKER_03:

Like a whole language for it already.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like, oh my god, that's so cool. People are starting to use that language for my am I in the rhyme. It's like, no, baby, again, you just like said an idea that's already fully developed. Okay. I'm calling both of them. I'll just talk to both of them. They live together and shit with the new normal now. Hello. Which witch am I talking to? Ha, kidding. I know it's you, baby. Hi, how are you? Good. Loving your witchcraft and everything. I'm obsessed. I do think this is gonna kind of need to be like a solo hobby. Yeah. No, I'm sure, I'm sure your boyfriend like sucks and has so many horrible qualities. I actually do want to um talk to him here in a second. But yeah, you are slightly in the wrong with let's just I'm not even gonna say you're in the wrong. I just we'll just so with some slight modifications. Let's keep let's we're gonna build you a studio outside. Your blue-collar boyfriend's gonna build you a studio outside, and you're gonna be able to do all your witchcraft in there and kind of just check that outside. Um, can you put your 26M on the phone? Thank you, sweetheart. Love you, witchy. Hey, what up, man? Hey, so go for breath. What up? Oh, okay. Yeah, you're the um, yeah, like I don't like I'm not saying you're in the right, but like I do like I can get how it could be a lot. The witch I get it, man. I get it. I get it. Look at the look, buddy, I get it. Uh, but yeah, you are slightly also in the wrong. Again, like you guys are but just have to like you gotta push and uh it's a push and pull system, so yeah. Cool, man. Alright, great. Talk to you soon. Alright, buddy. See ya. Like, completely understanding. I think they're gonna be able to make it work. So yay.

SPEAKER_02:

This is completely off topic.

unknown:

Holly.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't think we've been on topic in this episode, so you're fine.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, Holly's family was in town this weekend and they asked to connect to our Wi-Fi. And Wi-Fi is funny because when you set it up, it's like, ooh, I'm gonna have a fun little username. But then you forget that you have to tell people the username when they come over. Also say, what is your Wi-Fi username and password?

SPEAKER_05:

Obviously, mine's Bretchler pad. Which same thing, I'm like, I'm not just gonna have some boring ass Wi-Fi name, and now I'm like, um, that's Bretchler.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, so if the hat on you right now were the sorting hat, what house would you?

SPEAKER_05:

I really don't know enough about Harry Potter to answer that. Okay, Slytherin.

SPEAKER_02:

I think Brett would be a Slytherin.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I'll probably they have like the worst attitudes right here.

SPEAKER_02:

So you and Draco could be cousins.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, I also want to do a genuine podcast episode where I'm completely fucking genuine, heartfelt episode dropping.

SPEAKER_02:

And what would you say?

SPEAKER_05:

Well, I would let who would you dial in? I would let the people ask the questions. QA, get to know the real me. You guys won't be able to handle it. I'm a handful. Anyways, thank you guys for another special episode of dialing in with Brett. This is the Halloween episode. Halloween is dead after you listen to this. Just kidding. I think there's one more. Well, if you're listening to the day of first of all, A, thanks. That's really fucking sweet. My god. Um, but this should be the last you ever see us do anything Halloween related until the vlog tomorrow. Until the vlog tomorrow. And then after you finish that vlog, baby, we're we're focused on bigger and better things. Thank y'all so much. Happy Halloween. Um, I really got into the Halloween spirit this year, which I didn't think I was capable of doing. And, you know, just like enjoy the little things and hug a neighbor. I'm not gonna hug any of my neighbors because I have a weird relationship with all of them, but um Oh, really quickly, how do y'all know there's like a skeleton at Target. How do you not know Lewis? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03:

He's he went viral like last year or two years ago. He's like a big pumpkin and like a grim reaper. No, but a Halloween decoration I'm Lewis. And they've made him into Who is Lewis? And they've like Target took that and ran with it.

SPEAKER_05:

They had a fucking Lewis collection. They have a Lewis line. Insert clip of Lewis.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a video of like kids. I think this is in New York, and somebody had a Lewis decoration, and the kids all yell at the same time, Lewis! Like everybody knows Lewis except you.

SPEAKER_05:

I really wish I would have known Lewis because I feel like I could have gotten some really good Lewis content out of gotten some really good content out of Lewis.

SPEAKER_02:

Luckily, he's not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_05:

Lewis is fucking sick.

SPEAKER_00:

Lewis on the pollen. Oh my god.

unknown:

I should go get him when he's done.

SPEAKER_05:

Dialing in Lewis. It's just like his three like self auto replies. Lewis Lewis. Great. Ooh, what other noises does is that all he does?

SPEAKER_02:

He doesn't do much, but it's honest work.

SPEAKER_05:

He's a good fucking guy.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you like Jack Skellington?

SPEAKER_05:

He's aye.

SPEAKER_02:

I yearn for his body. No, I want his body type. I don't want him.

SPEAKER_05:

You want to look like him, or you want a man like him?

SPEAKER_02:

No. No, I want to like.

SPEAKER_05:

Look like Jack Skellington. Smile like Lewis. Be conversational like Lewis. Holly said, introduce yourself like Louis.

SPEAKER_02:

King your heart out like Jack. Aww.

SPEAKER_05:

Organize like Bailey.

SPEAKER_03:

Can I just rattle off some are you smarter than a fifth grader question so that you can prove once and for all if you're smarter than a fifth grader?

SPEAKER_05:

Which no one has ever thought I was, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

What is the capital city of France?

SPEAKER_05:

Paris.

SPEAKER_03:

Nice. What is an adjective?

SPEAKER_05:

It's something, a word used to describe something.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my god, do you have the cheat sheet up there?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. The amount of tests I had, like my quizlet on my phone pulled up while using, who gives a fuck.

SPEAKER_03:

What is a baby kangaroo called?

SPEAKER_05:

Joey.

SPEAKER_03:

Brett, like I'm impressed.

SPEAKER_05:

I want them harder.

SPEAKER_03:

What can travel around the world while staying in a corner?

SPEAKER_05:

Me. Um yeah, any function. Um, like a stamp. That like what?

SPEAKER_03:

What comes once in a minute, twice in a moment, but never in a thousand. But never in a thousand years.

SPEAKER_00:

Who?

SPEAKER_03:

What comes once in a minute, twice in a moment, but never in a thousand years.

SPEAKER_05:

Tomorrow or yesterday?

SPEAKER_03:

The letter M.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm fucking tired of this. I'm not doing any more riddles. I'm not, if you want some like cold hard fucking facts, ask me. I'm not doing this, that, and the other. Alright, y'all. This has been a fun one. Um, seriously, happy. We didn't address, did we address this? It says I partied with Dialin and with Brett for the party. Whatever, y'all don't give a fuck. I love y'all. Thanks for listening. Blow my shit up. Hey,