Faith Without a Blueprint ft. Philippa

What happens when you have to believe in a life you were never shown?

In this episode, we sit down with Philippa for a real and grounded conversation on what it means to build faith, identity, and purpose in God—without having a clear blueprint to follow.

From navigating cultural expectations and personal challenges to becoming a voice for women seeking both spiritual identity and practical independence, this conversation speaks to the process of becoming whole through faith.

In this episode with Philippa, we talk about:
 👑Developing a personal relationship with God beyond environment
 👑Identity as a woman beyond culture or dependency
 👑Healing, growth, and building what you didn’t inherit
 👑Faith, marriage, and redefining what a Godly foundation looks like
 👑Empowering women with both spiritual truth and real-world skills

Philippa is a gospel singer, songwriter, and recording artist, as well as a mentor to women from similar backgrounds—helping them discover their identity in God while equipping them with the tools to stand on their own.

This is a conversation for anyone who has ever had to trust God for something they’ve never seen before.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:08

All right, what is going on, everybody? Welcome back to the R Double DC. That is the real double dose channel. Thank you for tuning in wherever it is that you are listening to this on Spreaker, iCloud, iHeart, anywhere in between. I don't think iCloud has a designated. I'm thinking of Apple. Um, but wherever it is that you are listening to this on, thank you for joining us today as we are doing something a little more different and the first of many to come. Again, do remember to check us out on our website, on our platforms. Uh, the Real Doubledose Channel, well, Real Doubledose Channel at Yandex.com is our email, and real double dose channel.com is our website, and of course, real doubledose channel.blogspot.com. So you can check out any more updates that we may have, any upcoming events, and more interviews like this one that we are about to get into, this conversation. Okay, so this is a very special conversation, and really we want to go into what the title says, right? Some people grow up with a clear picture of faith, family, and identity, and others have to discover those things while they're still learning how to survive. I know many of us do, and today's conversation is about what it means to believe in something you were not shown, to build faith without a blueprint, and to find identity in God while navigating culture, expectation, and personal loss. Our guest today is a gospel singer and songwriter, recording artist, and a woman deeply committed to guiding other women into their God-given identity and independence. Her journey spans faith, womanhood, creativity, and purpose, and it's one that continues to impact women for beyond her own story. Today, we're having a conversation about faith without a blueprint. Please welcome Philipp from Nigeria. How are you doing today, Philippa?

SPEAKER_00 2:13

I am fine. I am well. What an introduction.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Well, you know, we gotta do it right over here, right? Um, yes, yes, yes. But but you know, and just kind of jumping into it because you and I already had a little bit of a conversation before we actually got on here. And I want to know more about your story, okay. I don't want to spoil it too much, I don't want to unveil it for her, but I want to get to know, as Lex calls it, your genesis, right? Where where it came from, the beginning of your story, uh, really growing up, what some of your unspoken expectations were from culture, from the family you grew up in, from the region that you're from, right? What were some of those expectations, and how did faith play a role into it?

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Okay, the genesis.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Yeah, you're the genesis.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

So, like you already said, my name is Philippa, and I am a Nigerian. Um, so well, I grew up in a family of I have three siblings that makes us like four of us. And you know, um, like I said, the chat I already sent to you, the bit um a bit of a background. My dad is an alcoholic, not worse. He's alive, he's well. But you know, we I think the first prayer I learned as soon as I learned how to speak was, you know, God, can you make my dad stop drinking? It was the first prayer we all learned how to say before we knew that God exists or who he is or where he was. We just that was like a desperate cry, and you know, can you just make him stop? And so growing up in that context and in that environment, I also grew up in an environment where as soon as you know, um a girl was like out of primary school, high school, before you made it to high school, what you call high school, which we call like secondary school here in Nigeria. You know, some are having like two kids already. So at that age of 13, 12, you know, teenage pregnancies was like a norm. And for the guys, it was like drug abuse. It was a norm, it was something you saw everywhere. Like before you walked down the street, there were bear palos everywhere. It was like um a very poor community, but then deeply, deeply invested in alcoholism and a lot of biases. So growing up in that kind of community was like, you know, um, I realized later on as I grew up that if all you see consistently was that you just are able to recreate it somehow. Because I grew up with some decent kids too, that I felt like, oh, you know, we were growing up and just trying to think of at what point did this person start to use drugs. Some use drugs to the extent that they they right now work on the street mad, because like it has affected their thinking that bad. So I grew up in that kind of context, but um um I think my mom, my mom was like the pillar in the home, and she did her best to kind of create a shelter for us in that chaos. And it was like at some point, it was her having to be really strict on us and just keep us away. At some point we didn't have electricity, we didn't have, you know, but when I'm looking back now, I think that um my story is really, really about a woman who was able to see that there could be more and just kind of try to create an environment for her own children that um could be, you know, I don't know what to call it, like there's darkness everywhere, but you just kind of create like a little bit of tunnel and put on a light. Right. So I grew up in that context, but of course, all she knew was all she could teach us, which was just trying to be disciplined and trying to just keep you away from all of what she saw happening around and all. So um as uh you know, as I started to grow up, one of the first things I hated for the reason of my story was just alcohol and everything because I just saw how how badly the the abuse of it has really wrecked a lot of families in that community were destroyed because of alcoholism and you know drunkenness and all of that. So at a point we moved away from there, and then I started to get involved a lot with church, even though I I didn't even know what I was doing there. But then it was it was a place where we got we had permission to go to. So, well, you know, if we're trying to leave the house, everywhere is a good place to go to, and we would go and join every kind of activity that was happening around there. But I uh a seed was sown, you know. I just started to see that um there was something else, there was something more to life than you know just living, um having friends, taking alcohol, you know, teenage pregnancies, and all of what was all that I had known growing up. So my story is just one of I think grace, because it seems that God had just um put a path for me and he was doing everything to ensure that I met the right people, I moved to the right environment, I just and here am I. So, one of the things I learned in all of that journey, because with my dad being a drunk, an alcoholic, never present, never doing anything for us, never buying um anything um for us or being a father at all, he somehow just would look at me and say, Oh, you're beautiful, you're you know, you're pretty. And he would say some of those things. And I realized later on that one of the things that made me not go um follow boys and all of you know what my age mates were doing at the time was just that feeling that someone at home thought I was beautiful, someone at home thought that I was smart and would just say it, and that affirmation. So, and when I grew up in that environment where the fathers were never present, never kind, there were no kind words being spoken to anybody. And as an adult, I realized that one of the things that was missing around the young women here in my society was that affirmation. So the first guy that says, Oh, you're fine, you know, you have taken off your clothes and wanting to, because of that need that we all have to just be affirmed, to feel love, to feel beautiful, to feel so I started to do a lot of work with young women around um, you know, finding that one person that calls you beautiful, which is God, that says you are beautiful, that says I made you my image, that says you are worth all of this to me. And see how that a drunk, an alcoholic could call me beautiful and it meant something. I just felt like, okay, what if you knew that the owner of this universe thought that you were beautiful? And I think my whole story was around that my identity stemmed from finding out that God loved me, God thought I was, you know, worth it. And so just looking for as much opportunity as I could to have many more young women hear him say, You are beautiful. Yes, right.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Oh, that's awesome. I I love that. Yeah, then that's that's very powerful, too, of how we need to look at it and actually reflect on that word. And what you were mentioning before, and that's one thing I do want to kind of ask about because you said the first thing you learned how to do whenever you learned how to pray was how to pray, God, you know, please take this alcoholism from my father. That takes a lot of consciousness because you typically so many people grow up in an environment and they don't even realize that it's something that is not aligned with what God wants for us or is not quote unquote normal for the life that we should be living, or is frowned upon in some way. So, how did you how were you able to see that hey, this is a substance that should not be affecting uh my father like this, even though it was so surrounded by you? How were you able to distinguish that?

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Yeah, you know, now that you ask, I I realize that I didn't really have um any other I didn't have any examples of what it looked like for a father who was not like an alcoholic. So I'm not sure. So my mom had a friend who had um a father who was a pastor, and the home always looked like you know, the dad played the instrument and he taught his children how to play, and it looked ideal in a way to us. But also I think that knowing that my father was really skilled and that he got got a lot of opportunities to work, but then he goes to the palace and um all the money gets stolen, and we didn't have much to eat, was always for me like what would happen if he didn't have he didn't go there to drink and he came home straight from where he worked, and we could get access to that money because he had a lot of opportunities, he's really skilled, he's a plumber, and he used to have opportunities to work with like big organizations, but he would show up today and not show up tomorrow because he he got you know the first payment and he's drunk, and so he can't continue to work, and it means that he couldn't get more work. So I think somewhere in my head there was also the thought of what would happen if he didn't go that route. Maybe we would have more food to have food to eat because he would ordinarily bring that money home, and you know, so some of that also, and then my mom too. I think at a point out of the whole desperation and everything, you would just um you know pray, pray all the time, and just say, Hey, you pray, pray and ask God to make your dad stop drinking. And that was all we knew how to pray, and we pray it before we before meals, before we just prayed it as the in the morning, we prayed it before we ate, you know, instead of saying Lord bless the food, we're like that, Lord, just make my dad stop drinking, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

That that that's awesome, actually. That and and that takes a lot of imagination too, from a child to think, Hey, what would this look like if the money that was supposed to be earned went to this instead? Or, like, that is some level thinking that even adults don't think at right now. They don't think, all right, let me cut out this vice and let me put it elsewhere, or let me invest it. No, they don't even think that way. So, having that as a child is just amazing and really shows how much of a connection that your mother put and an imprint that she put on you and and your siblings, I'm sure, as well, which is just amazing, and even to the point where that strictness, I I can relate a lot to that strictness because I actually had a father like that. My parents were actually separated, but I had a father like that, and he was just so strict to where it we couldn't even go outside to play, and I hated it for a long time. But once I got older, I'm like, oh my gosh, he was such a blessing, it was such a blessing because if I would have been raised in the upbringing of my mother, you know, not Sebastian or that's still the lady that gave me birth, but if I would have been raised in that upbreeding with the freedom that she gave us, I wouldn't have been alive today. I know that for a fact. So I can definitely relate on that strictness, it is a such a blessing. How did it get to the point from going to you know those activities that you said you were able to sign up for to now you being uh a minister, right? To to being able to teach God's word. If you said at one point you didn't even know who God was, how did how did that go from not knowing who God is to now being able to show people how to gain that relationship with God?

SPEAKER_00 15:10

So um, one of the things my mom also did was as soon as you um were old enough to say some words, she would say, Um, you know, lead you to Christ, say the prayer of um Lord, come into my heart, all of that, and then write the date. So I have no memory of that. That was just always her, you know, writing all of that. So um, but as I grew um older and I started to be part of some of these activities, I um I was living literally a double life because I like to dance, and then I would go to clubs like every Friday to dance. I don't drink, I didn't have like boyfriends or all of that, but I would always try to sneak as at any opportunity that I had to just you know go clubbing and go and dance, and then I was in church too, so some of those meetings in church required like coming to church and having an all-night. So some Fridays I'm in church throughout the night because we're having like a praise night or a prayer night, and then the next Friday I'm at the club, you know. So at a point it was really disturbing for me. So um I I got to a point where I felt like a hypocrite because I was going to church and I hear things like um I hear them say, you know, how that you have to give your life to Christ completely, you have to say it and mean it in your daily life. Like worship is not just coming there to sing a song, it's not just coming to do it on a Sunday, it's that every day of your life consistently is lived for the glory of the Lord. And then by Friday, I'm there all night. And then I had a lot of close calls where we'll be coming back from the club, and you know, sometimes you would see guys on the road with axes, and you know, you just know that a lot of times you are faced with death several times, and then you just want to dance, and so you keep doing it, you keep doing it. And at a point, I had a conference in 2014 where I was just um it was we had to travel to another state for the conference, and I felt like I had an encounter in that moment where I was like, um, I was given a choice. Like, do you really, really want to walk this path, or do you want to um, you know, keep doing this? How long, how much longer? And that was a very defining moment for me. I still don't know, you know, how to put into words what happened to me in that August of 2014, but it was, I just knew that I got to a point and I had an encounter with the Lord, and I it just marked a new start of everything that um even the desire to, you know, just hang out with friends, go all of coving and all of that, it died, you know, and I felt like the Lord took it from me and just gave me, you know, this um desire for him because it was like he gave me the choice, and I said, Lord, if you are going to give me the grace and you would help me, I want to choose you every day of my life and everywhere in my conversations and everything, and that was just um the starting point for me, and I I began to seek God truly and um you know study personally, study the word, and you know, just grow, grow daily.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

That that that's beautiful, that's awesome, and yeah, there's some people don't even get that privilege of experiencing such a radical encounter with God because some people, you know, as we mentioned, we they they grow up in it, they grow up in the faith, and they still have that fire. There's some people who still have have that fire for the God, they still have that relationship, but they don't have the radical nature, you know. There's so many different ones, so having that and having the desire also completely taken from you, that is amazing. That is something that because because there's so many people even now that still struggle with certain desires, you know. We get questions about how to stop these desires, or people wondering, like, if I came to God and I gave myself fully to him, why do I still have these desires? So, I mean, in that context, was there anything that you struggled with in coming to God, like whether it was identity, whether it was your positioning in you know, in the same culture facet of what you said? Because one of the conversations that me and you had before coming on here was how there's expectations as a woman as well, not just being from the region that you're from, but as a woman, there are certain expectations and dependency on a man. So, what were some of those struggles that you faced and were able to see and overcome?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Yeah. Um, well, I think that just as a comment to what you said, you know, sometimes there are some things that um when we come to God, it seems like in a drastic measure at a point he just takes it away and you know it's gone, and that breakthrough just happens. But I think that you know you struggle with over a long time. I remember struggling with pornography, and then you know, sometimes I would fast, I would pray, I would um I would not buy data because here we we buy data to subscribe and be able to connect to the internet, you know. Right, right. So I would stay with the old data. No, um, I was I did a lot of things just to try to hit all of the sites and do all of that, and it seemed like it worked for a a week or two weeks, and you're back. So I think one of the things I realized is that you know, um God brings us deliverance in different ways. And our ability to see that the same God that uses medicine to heal can decide to tell, you know, woman with the issue of blood, just touch the hem of his garments and get healed, is the same God working in it. You know, over here we have a concept where people feel that if you give birth through you know the normal um vaginal birth, it's like um a miracle, it's God doing. But if you have like a CS where you have to go like to the theater and it's like frowned upon, some people come and look at you and after you've had your baby and be like, Oh, I'm so sorry about this, you know, that's you know, we pray. For you, God will come through the next time. Because it seemed like, oh, that was God if you went to have a CS and you came out with your baby. So, but for me, seeing God, yeah. So, seeing that the same God that can help you push out the baby is the same God that can give the doctors the wisdom to bring out the baby, it's still Him working the deliverance. So for me, with pornography, I had to get a point. What ended that battle for me was God leading me to confess it to another person. So when I confessed it, that was the end of it. Right? So I think that that accountability, that um secrecy that ended, you know, sin thrives in secrecy, sin always likes to be covered up, you know. So that opening it up just sort of, you know, marks an end to it. So I think for for us in in terms of deliverance, like God um giving, granting you freedom, liberty from anything you're struggling with, He can do it, He can send you to a recovery group and still God working it. He can answer your prayer instantly and you wake up and you don't have appetite for alcohol, it's still God. So for me, I think that I've learned to see that God works in several ways. And as far as we still trust him and ask him to help, whatever method he chooses to reach out to us, it's it's still him, and he gets the praise for it. So I think that's a good thing. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Oh, yeah, yeah. Because there, yeah, there's definitely some people that just immediately they can stop doing something. Like I've heard, even whenever it comes to certain people that have certain substance addictions, they go and they're like, Oh, it's completely gone. Other people like they are known for it, and they take a long path to get recovered from it. Some of it takes discipline, you know, some of it is the choice to give it up, as opposed to having God just take it from you, and it still builds a certain type of character, regardless of fact, you know. And I think, yeah, there's so many ways that God works in, and so many different avenues and routes and paths that each one of us has to take because it's our own journey, it's our own journey, and every path that we do take, we have a message to help others that are on that path or that are going through it. So, yeah, a recovery group that's something a lot of people don't even think about whenever they are following God. They're like, Well, I don't need to go to some sort of help if I got God, you know, I'll just keep praying on it. But maybe that person is set there to be able to give you the message, maybe that one piece key of information or revelation that they receive from God in order for you to shift your mind completely. So I think that, yeah, that's definitely something that God does help with and and changes in so many different ways. Um, but I want to talk about now also, because you you mentioned to me, not to you guys yet, but you mentioned to me that now you are about to be married for five years. Congratulations, by the way, on your pre-five-year anniversary. Um, and how it's just a completely different season in your life. How did you learn to believe for a faith-filled home and a healthy partnership when you didn't necessarily have a reference point for it growing up? Like, how were you able to even have that desire?

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Okay, so I think when I started to take um God more seriously, I started to be able to um some people that were married um you know in godly homes. Um and to be honest, I still felt like because all I saw my mom do in marriage was struggle her way through. You know, it just felt felt like this burden and this hard work, and honestly, I had no desire to marry. I I knew that I the Lord, and I was I was seeking the Lord, but I I just felt like marriage was you know this extra burden that was not necessary for life. So do it if you have to, but you know, we haven't seen any references of people who didn't, so Jesus didn't, so uh stuff like that. And um, so when I I started to have you know contact with some of those people, I felt like oh okay, marriage can be um for purpose, marriage can be fulfilling, and marriage can be um, you know, literally like a weapon for of warfare. It can be something that a tool that God can use to propagate his kingdom on the earth. So it was for me that if I was ever going to marry, then it had to be the kind of marriage that was not work, that was not a a fight, that was not um, you know. So uh my pastor would say that marriage should be for work and not work, so that we can marry and end up, you know, making the marriage our work. So it comes a full-time job just trying to make the marriage work. And right we can also marry for work, which means two people already understanding that we are not about to God is going to use this to purify us both, and it's ultimately going to be for his work, for his kingdom, for his way. And so I started to read books. I started to read books because I think that one place that we undermine sometimes as believers is that transformation of the mind, you know. Yeah, when when romance will say be transformed by the renewing of your mind, you know, we we take that for granted. You just think that okay, right now I know the Lord, and mine is going to be different, but you don't realize that there's been 16, 20 years of consistent garbage being fed, because that's all you saw, you know, and everywhere for the first how many years of my life now, maybe first 16, 17 years of my life, all I saw was broken homes, all I saw was uh marriages that weren't working, you know, if there was no um physical abuse, there was emotional abuse, there was one form of chaos or another. And you know, I told my pastor at that time, I said, I don't want to marry because I think marriage is work. Why do people marry? And he said to me, Life itself is work. Why do people live? You know, so that was that was a point of thought. So I I prayed about it and I said, God, like if you would have me marry, you have to show me what the possibilities are, how that this can be beautiful. How can it be beautiful? How can it be worth it? How can it be worth the time? And I think one of the books I read at the time was Sacred Marriage, and it talked about how you know marriage is one of the best tools that the Lord uses to purify us, because all of your tendencies, you do not know them as well as you will see them in marriage, you know. Uh, when you see how impatient you are, how you know, and Galatians will talk about the fruit of the spirit being, you know, love, joy, peace, patience, self-control, you would see the lack of it in marriage. And I think I I saw that, you know. So, but then um, while I started to think about it, I just um started to write down stuff that I wanted to see in my own home. I started to write down stuff that I the marriage must look like. God, if you want to give me marriage, I think that it shouldn't be anything because it wasn't just my mom. In my mother's complete family, all of her sisters, her brothers, her mother, there is no marriage that is like standing like the man and the woman still together. So it wasn't just about my my father's family as well. There was no reference in the whole family, and then in the community, the society as well. So I I had I knew I had to look outwards if I could find a reference point around me, then I could find books, I could find um people that were not necessarily close to me, but that I could mentor me from a distance. And you know, I learned, I read the talks. I think um one of the things you mentioned too about addictions and how people just God should take it away. It's something that I also think people don't pay attention, even with parenting. Recently, I know that uh my attention has been drawn to the fact that I have to read, I have to study, you know, to know how to be a good parent. So we just think that oh, I'm a believer and I'm marrying another believer, and so my marriage should be good.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

It's like no, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

So I I realized that God had given some people the gifts of understanding this union better than some of us have, and they've written about it and they've had some good revelation, and why not glean from them? And so when I did that, you know, and it's at a time when my husband has been my friend for years, many, many years. And I know that when I started to have peace with the fact that oh, I was going to marry, and then somehow I still don't know how to explain what happened around that period, but I just knew that you know I had um one of the moments when I was really thinking about the man that I would marry, the scripture in Ephesians chapter 3, verse 20. When I was going about all of my specifications, I just felt the scripture rise in my heart to say that see, God is able to do exceeding abundantly and above all that I could ask or imagine. So that was just I felt God giving me an assurance that what I'm able to do is beyond your imagination, if you would trust me and if you if you would follow me. And so it's been almost five years, and we're still learning, we're still reading books, we're still getting counsel, and I couldn't have imagined this marriage. I know I couldn't have imagined it. God had to you know be leading me to get here. So I don't know if I answered the question, but then that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Yeah, that's amazing. So, how how did that impact also what you currently do? Because you're also you you do music, you do music. Uh, I've I've got to catch a glimpse of it yet, um, through through Lex. Lex was able to show me a glimpse of it. I love it. Um, but how how did you get into music itself? Like, how did all this wonderful glory of starting to follow God and receiving that revelation? How did it turn you into let me start making worship for God? You know, let me share this worship so others can do it as well. How did the love get to that point of passion for him?

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Um, so when I was doing that, um using church as escape of just going there and finding out, you know, however. So I joined almost every function group. I joined the choir, I joined the youth fellowship, I joined whatever would just get me, you know, out of the house again and again, and just to, you know, so um I joined the dance group where because I told you earlier I could go to the club because I just liked to dance. So I found a dance group that was in church, and I liked the fact that I got to dance and it was now, you know, to the glory of God. And so the dance group had like a singing arm as well. So sometimes when some of the singers were not around, some of us that were already doing a bit of singing from the choir and all of that running around, I had done, we just cover up for them. And I noticed that very and quite early, you know, people just felt that there was something about the way I led worship that was, you know, it seemed like this was something that I had a gift for specifically. So, you know, early enough, people were already calling me, they come lead worship at this meeting, come lead worship. And I realized that, you know, I could lead worship with children, I could lead worship where there were older people, I could lead worship. Whenever I stood, it was like the scripture that says open your mouth and I'll feel it. You know, it's just like every time I stood, I knew what song to sing at the time. And I knew that that was just not something that um I knew how to do, it was something that God had put in me for his glory. So I just started to um work on that more, and then I realized that I I just was able to write songs that people were able to resonate with, and um I've gotten a lot of testimonies from people who just listen and listen to songs and say, you know, this song pulled me out of this situation, of this space, of this time. And I I as you know, you get more feedback, you just know that every step you take is pulling you even more and more in that direction. And it seems like God is even sending you, you know, the people that you need to help you better function in those areas, and it just became very easy for me to, you know, um function in that. So I just took more work, tried to learn more about thinking, about you know, um writing, and it's been yeah, I think that's basically about how that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Yeah, so you you were literally positioned in the place to uncover one of the gifts that God gave to you absolutely through through something that you already like doing, yeah, and then it led to you being a singer-songwriter. So that's awesome. That that's amazing. You didn't even know you had it in you, and it just God said, Here you go, this is this is what I want you to do, and you just started doing it. That that's that's amazing, and you know, even with that, how how did you get from finding an identity, finding your purpose, and you know, even the gifts and talents that you have to now saying, you know what, I need to serve more, I need to help women find their identity with uh God, help women disassociate the connection from what we were brought up, and and culture and the expectation of being pregnant as as a teenager, into hey, that's not right, let's do it godly and let's learn some independence in the same time, you know, and and get some skill set so that we can become better and and whole within ourselves. How did that get there?

SPEAKER_00 38:04

Okay, um, so just like the music, uh, that you know, people just started to call invite, and I noticed that um a lot of women felt safe speaking with me. Um they they didn't understand how are you so secure, how are you so sure, how are you so um steadfast, like fixed on a path, how are you so sure of the steps that you take? And a lot more people came to speak and confide. And the more women I spoke with, the more I saw that missing gap of some people are they are believers, but they actually don't know who they are, they really don't know who they are. It's just like you said, some people probably grew up in those Christian homes, and um so the the I think that's for me personally, it's it's an opinion, not from research. I just felt like um a lot of the vices that we struggle with around here can be fixed because we have a majority of the people in my society as Christians, as believers. So I felt like if we could understand the issue of identity better, because you don't have someone who knows that um my body is a temple of God, knowing that I, you know, that's great honor and privilege, just use their bodies anyhow, or you know, just smoke themselves to death. You don't have people understanding the identity and the fact that, you know, this life that you were giving was in exchange for another life, you know, seeing yourself as that worthy of so much love that someone, you know. So I just thought that if we could do the work of identity enough and you know, see scriptures like Ephesians that say you are his his workmanship, you are his masterpiece, you are his. And, you know, just the way I said about my father just affirming me in those small ways, how could the affirmation of a drunkard make me feel secure? Uh, how much more if we understood how affirmed we are of God, how accepted we are in beloved, how how much you know the the Lord looks at us, how much difference would that make in the way we see ourselves, carry ourselves, and the kind of things we get involved in? So that work was that it got to a point. My husband knows that we could just be walking, and I would see a girl and a and a guy, young girl, young guy at an ungodly hour just standing by the road. And I could literally, we've gone out to a place with not once, like not twice, that I would just go to the girl and try to get the girl alone. I want to engage her in a conversation. I always just get this and anger come up, and it's like it's biased because it's always trying to girl get the girl out of that place, just try to speak to the woman, speak to the woman. And so I felt like I had a calling towards the women because it burns in my heart every time I see a woman who is living less than what I believe is God's potential on her life, and I just see how much you know she's about to come to raise more children in this mind, and how much more destruction that is going to continue the cycle. And I just feel like there's so much that a woman can do if she gets it right, if she gets it right. There's so much that can be possible. So I just noticed that I don't I don't struggle when I do anything for women. It comes on me, it just comes to me, you know, so easily. Oh, do a Bible study on the book of Esther. And I put out a flyer and you see the women gather. Oh, do a retreat, do a picnic, do a hangout, and somehow God just provides the resources for it. You know, um, the people that need to be around, people come and say, Can I help? How can I volunteer? How can I? And so I notice that there's just a special grace that women are willing to speak to me about the difficulties. They feel like I don't think that I have achieved anything in that regard. But somehow I think that when they look at me, they see like someone who was able to be in that kind of society and make a difference and work differently, work, decide to work on a different path, and then just come and and so um the other work that I mentioned, the Mahemo arm of the work, was looking at these women, say, okay, yes, I want to do better, but I don't even have any skills, I don't know, like you know, because sometimes it's that idleness that becomes the beginning of the problem because they are they don't have anything that they are doing with the energy, that mental energy of creating something, being a part of something in full. And so I started my HEMO last year, was when I began my HEMO, and the first cohort I trained eight ladies, and it was just soft skills, professional skills, goal setting, time management, um, basic things like using AI, you know, Canva, all of those kind of just be able to do something so that you are able to have some level of um because some of some of it is the lack of independence, like we're completely dependent on the mailman. And so you can see a lady who is um seemingly has gone to school, but just going following someone just because of the financial benefits of it, you know, there's that as well. So I just felt like if we could make women understand identity and then be skilled enough to when I'm working to partner with a man, it's because I know I'm making a conscious decision, not because I feel like I don't have a choice and this is my escape from poverty or this is. My escape from you know just having three meals a day. But then you are doing this because you have you know who you are, and you have met someone else who also knows who he is, and you have agreed to work on a path of marriage, not because it's it's all we know how to do and we don't have options. So I think my hemo was birthed from that place of the my hemo is short for make hamo, make hamo. So it's like um you have this potential. What do you like to do? How can you like from the first eight people? I think uh two got jobs just because of the training, because right now they are they are they are skilled, they got those opportunities work. Um we have um in fact, three of them have jobs. Some of them have been further trainings attached, you know, in data analysis, and because of that foundation that they got. And so for me, it's really feeling to see one more woman. I just I live for it literally, just see one more woman, you know, just get out of that mindset of this is all is obtainable. One of the exercises we do at our training is I just try to ask them, I say, look out what five women can you write that are like models for you. And you see, sometimes you actually struggle to write out models because we don't really have examples like that to say, oh, this woman is doing it great in finances, this woman is doing it great with her home, this woman is doing great with her business. You know, they don't have I say, okay, if you can't find them around, find them out there. If you have to see them on, you know, just look for models, put a picture in front of you and just decide that no, this is not, I don't like this picture, then replace it with another picture of something that can be better. And so for me, I just feel called to the woman, and I love working with women.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

That's awesome. And then yeah, that's actually very vital because so many people do that. So many people have either a codependency or on the other scale, a narcissism mindset to where they they still need somebody to be able to give them what they're not giving themselves, you know. So you're still seeking to essentially make yourself whole from the other person, as opposed to being whole and coming in communion and partnership with another person and becoming one flesh, right? Biblically. So there's still there's always going to be an off of percentage, there's always going to be something missing and something not set properly because you were going from the point of seek, right? The point of scarcity as a point of abundance of who we are in God. So so I completely understand that. And for anyone hearing this, I mean, you you you're doing this and you're doing picnics, you're doing all these things to where you do little get-togethers and stuff. Is there anything virtual or is this just exclusive to people in Nigeria, to women in Nigeria?

SPEAKER_00 47:07

Um, we have um um a telegram group where we need to pray like every Thursday. So that is just for we have this teaching because I know, like I said earlier, that your your mind needs to be renewed by the word, and you know, you hear consistently being said. So um we come, we teach the word and then we pray. So every Thursday we come there and then we take some people just say, Oh, please pray with me, pray with me. I we just share um where you're struggling, and we pray and we agree. So, yes, we have the telegram group where we pray every Thursday, but a lot of our meetings are on site where we just you know meet physically, okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Right, right, right. So, so what about finding you? How can people come and look for what it is that you're teaching? What it is that you are doing all this for? Do you have like a main hub that we can do it, a website or anything like that? How can someone say, Hey, I resonated with Philippa? I want to learn more about it, I want to be a part of this movement that you were doing so I can also become the person in God who I was created to be.

SPEAKER_00 48:23

Okay, so this year I began a new, just to put that out as well. I began a new a bit of an in-cycle discipleship where I'm working with a few ladies deliberately for a year of accountability, of reading books together, of like one of the first assignments was your life plan for um the year, you're going to share it and we're going to hold each other accountable. So we're working a whole one year of you know, reading together, praying together, fasting together, studying. Sometimes you just come together and you know that kind of deliberate work. So I think that if anyone who wants to connect, if you're able to find me on on Facebook, on IG, as Philippa, almost everything I do, you find the links to um the different um expressions of what I do. Hemo and all my HEMO Pathfinders is on Instagram, um, Tamim God Girls. Tamim is um Hebrew for perfect and complete, which is the anchor scripture for God. Yeah, it says let patience have her complete work that you may be perfect and complete. So um it's the Tamim God Girls Um Ministries. You can find us on Facebook. We have a Facebook group and a Facebook page as well. And um, I think basically if you find Philippa, you can find the links to every other thing that I do online.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

Yeah, awesome. All right, yeah. So we'll definitely also include that in because I want women that resonate with you to be able to find you. I know Lex has the same feeling for it as well, and and be able to walk with you through that journey, you know, hear more about what you have experienced and what you have gone through. So check out the description, you know. If it popped up on the video, if you're watching this on YouTube, check out the you know, we might have had it popped up right there. So do check that out. Check Philip on. Thank you so much for being a part of this conversation and for sharing your story with us. And hopefully, so many people have been able to resonate with this because it was very powerful, even within myself. So thank you for much so much for being here.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

Do you have anything else you want to say before we we head out of here?

SPEAKER_00 50:47

This was good. I already did say uh redouble those. This is family already, and I've been so crucial with everyone on the team. You are all so loving, so kind, so thoughtful, and um I'm privileged to you know finally get a chance to speak with you. So I hope that this blesses many, many people.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Awesome! All right, so love, peace, and blessings. Of course, as you see this, check out for anything else that we will have coming soon. But do check out the description to reach out to Philippa here, and as always, you know how we end it off. We will catch you on the flip side. Yeah.