Ep18: Best in Class!

Anthony and John follow up their last episode by discussing the best in live action superheroes and villains costumes!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

What's going on, guys? I am the Black Sheep Anthony C. And I am the big John V from South Carolina all the way to Cali. This is another edition of possibly a fresh edition of One Tape, Real Talk on movies, games, and far less blood clot adjacent pop culture. This is true. Thank God we got that over with. Guys, if you didn't listen to our last episode, yeah, that would make sense. You need to go listen to that and come back over here. But today, we're talking about the best of the best, the creme de la creme, you know what I'm saying? Of superhero and super villains costumes. Who did it the best, man? That's what I want to know.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

But definitely Red Skull from 1990s, Captain America.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

So me and John ain't talked about it. John, are we are we doing this bracket style again, or we just gonna make a list? What you wanna do?

SPEAKER_02 1:00

I figured this was gonna be a two-parter, so I mean, do you want to do just a list? I was gonna do bracket style.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

We could do bracket style. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Okay. Well, you I started the last one, so I'll let you start this one. Ugh.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Hold on, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

You gonna make me start? Yes, sir. You have to be the one to shoot the first one down.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

I mean, you normally go first on these things. I know, but this time I'm torturing you. You can't torture me, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm always on top of my game. Let me see.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Let me see who I gotta pull up my list here. Alright. I'ma go with this is a hard one. You know what?

SPEAKER_00 1:59

I'm going with a new one. And I don't give a damn what nobody says. I'm going with David Cornswith Superman. You know, I had it on my list too. So I'm glad that he at least made the cut.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Yeah. So I'm gonna go with the first villain on my list, Doc Ark from Spider-Man 2.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

You know what? I don't like I don't hate it, but I don't care. It's not like crazy. You know what I'm saying? Because the biggest thing I don't like it, he shirtless to the whole thing. Damn near. It's just a trench coat. It's just trench coat and shirts. I like the re like the uh revamp version in No Way Home more. But yeah, man, I don't hate it, but it's just it it leaves a lot to be desired for me.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

So this one's right up my alley because I think it was a good way to one seamlessly mesh the comic goofiness with the live action aesthetic that obviously this movie has, and two, the arms are stay with me now, guys, all practical.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

I mean, that's cool. Yeah, but I mean, but that's cool, but it's just a fat naked guy in a trench coat.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

That was where I was gonna say, I might have to lose this because I'm banking a little bit on my love for practical effects.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

But here's my thing. It's not a part of the actually a costume, yeah. Yeah, but not even that. It's not even that bad. But I'm thinking when I think Doc Op, I think like even I don't like the I don't like the Spider-Man video game version of Doc Opp. Because I think the 90s cartoon did it so well, even though with that stupid bowl cut, but with the green and yellow, you know what I'm saying? With the whole I I think that that suit is just iconic.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

But I mean I do love the green, and to be fair, that's a hard one to translate to live action. It is because it's so ridiculous, but you could do it.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

You you could do it. I love it, I think it's great. But a lot of people hate hate it on David Cornspi, but I think it looks really good. I think honestly, it was gonna either be him or gonna be a Superman return Superman.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

I mean, I'm not mad at either of those. I sweat gets a little bit of an edge out because one, his movie is newer, so just by default, it's gonna look a little better.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

But like, dude, you go back and look at Superman Return, Superman. I'm just saying, and and I know like I'll get a lot of flack for this, right? And I don't even know if I should say it. Should I say it, John? Say it. I personally believe that Brandon Raw looks better in the Superman costume than Christopher Reeves. Someone's gonna fucking read you. I think he pulls it off a little bit more. I mean, I hate to say it, like dead serious. I like, I like day, I like Brandon Ralph's them take on Superman. Even though it's supposed to be the same Superman from the Christopher Reeves movies and stuff, but like, bruh, the guy, I mean, like, he's like, let's be real, in the 70s and all that, like, live action Superman was slender, he wasn't this bulky guy. I think compared to Christopher Reeves, he kind of pulls it off a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Well, one, it helps because David Corn Sweat's got a little more of a physique on him. And two, I think they made the underwear look better. Because it's less like straight up tidy whiteys, and it's more it's more boxer briefs.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Am I thinking? Yeah, no, I like corn sweats. Look, corn sweat look is the one thing I will say, corn sweat looks like he's ripped out of a damn comic book.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Yeah, he's got the cowlic, which also really helps. I mean, I I dig it like I'm I'm willing to give you this because he is actually wearing a costume.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Hold on. I'm about to I'm about to share this with you. Let's take a look at this. Tell me look look at just tell me if I'm tripping. 2006 and 1978. Who wore it better? Okay. Let me know when you get into it. Just look at it and tell me, guys. I'm sorry you guys can't see it. I just literally sent him uh all six live action Superman. Yes, they have been six. Can't forget Dean Kane. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

I'm not gonna say he wears it better, but he is more, he looks more like Superman. Exactly. Exactly. Because he's more traditionally attractive, Christopher Reeves got a really weird face.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

This guy's all right. Dude, the dude's dead.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

But even when you go look at like there's a there's a link at the bottom. If you look at David Corn Sweat compared to Henry Cavill, I think this I think this suit looks better than Henry Cavill's. And I know I know Henry Tyler Ho Chan. Yeah, oh yeah, that's from a Superman Lewis. That's that's a great take on it. We just talked about that off the cuff. But David Cornsweat, I mean, like, I know I like the new 52 style, which I think they try to go more that style with Henry Cavill, but it just doesn't look, it doesn't translate well on live action.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Yeah, like because it looks more like he's wearing a onesie than a super suit.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Yeah, and that I got what it was going. I mean, don't get me wrong, the suit does not look bad, but we might rank these suits one day. But um, John, so can we acknowledge that Superman moves on?

SPEAKER_02 8:20

Yeah, I'm I can't, as much as I love the Doc Ock, because I think the trench coat awesome. I love him with like, you know, the trench coat, the fedora, and the glasses, but if I'm being real, this is me banking on the fact that I love practical effects. Yeah. So I will give this to you.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Alright, so who do you got going into the next round?

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Well, I have one of my favorite comic book accurate suits in live action. And we don't get a ton of these that I think are ever quite as close as this.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

I know what you're gonna do. Ryan Reynolds Deadpool. You wanna you you know you're gonna hate me right now?

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Don't do it. I got one of the best, I got one of the best live actions that has ever been put down. And I I got to go with none other than Wolverine from Wolverine and Devil. So you think you're fucking funny and cute and bullshit. We finally got the yellow suit, bro. We finally got the yellow suit, bro. And then tell you.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Man, bro, I didn't even think you were gonna pull it.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

I was like, even with even without the cowl, it looks good. But with the cowl, with the cowl. It looks so good. It looks so good. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

But I'm not gonna lie, I do think I still gotta go Deadpool here. I mean, this might be a little bit of a quantity versus quality here. That Wolverine suit's in one movie. And the Deadpool suit gets three movies, and I think it looks equally good in all of them.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

Yeah, he's in one movie, but he carried a franchise without the suit. He did, he did.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Now, if we we can get into portrayals of these characters, and people might not like that. I think Hugh Jackman did a better job than Ryan Reynolds did.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

He did. I he did. I'm gonna tell you like this. Not only did we get the yellow suit, right? Not only did we get the yellow suit, and we're just talking specifically this movie. We got damn near every iteration of fucking Wolverine in a montage.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

You know what I've realized, Anthony? We just be putting heat on us for no reason. We don't even try to.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

We're just you know what? I'm just gonna say the thing. I'm just gonna say what we gotta say. I mean, all I'm saying is I I can't, I don't know if I can give you what Deadpool, bro. Because the Wolverine suit goes too fucking look it up. It's so good. I'm telling you, it looks so fucking good, dude. Like, I love the Deadpool suit. When I first seen Deadpool one, I'm like, fuck, they got the white eyes and everything, right? And it looks great, like it looks fantastic with the white eyes. But listen, I'm gonna tell you, but seeing belt buckle. But hear me out. You know how you saw Deadpool with the first the first trailer and you know, whatever, right? It it was great, right? It was fucking great, right? Yes, okay, but just imagine, take yourself back before you knew when you first when it first got announced, Deadpool Wolverine, and then we saw the first trailer of Wolverine wearing the whole costume without the cowl. You lost your fucking shit. Then you went to go see the movie, and then the third fucking act, he slides the cowl on. Tell me, Death will hit hard like that.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

So I think part of this, and I'm gonna be fair, and and you may have a point here, is Wolverine pisses us off because there's a good half dozen movies where he doesn't wear the fucking suit.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

No, he literally wears black leather in one when one movie, maybe a second. I don't know if he wore it in three. I I only watched three once and I hated it.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

No, the most egregious thing they ever did was in in The Wolverine and the director's cut.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Oh, you're talking about what they showed us, they showed the suit, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

They show the suit and he doesn't wear it, and I'm like, all right. That's wrong.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

I mean, dude, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, and I'm not knocking Deadpool because if anything, Deadpool should be here. And you know, I'm not a Wolverine fan. Yeah, you're you're a Scott Summers guy. Exactly. Like, I'm not, but like I can't deny how good. I can't deny the hype I had for this movie for that suit. Bro, I went and cop the Deadpool and Wolverine pizzas like four times. Remember that? Oh, at Little Caesars? No, the fucking piece, the frozen pieces they came out with.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Oh, yeah, yeah, they did do that.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Yeah, they had they had the pineapple and olive and the damn chorizo and bacon. Bro, three pieces. I ain't even gonna lie. They need to keep them in rotation. I the pineapple and olive is the Deadpool one, and it shouldn't work. And what's crazy is a lot of people did you gotta pay attention. The Deadpool pizza is pineapple and olive, it's the same color as Wolverine. Wolverine's spicy chorizo is the same color as Deadpool.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

It was cute, and I was like, ah, ah, but I mean, like, dude, I can't wait to see, I cannot wait to see this suit in fucking doomsday.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

It it does look great. The build-up is the biggest thing going in its favor. Exactly. I'm gonna tell you this. Go ahead. Because Deadpool doesn't have the build-up that this suit did. No, like on the other end, though, there is something to be said that Deadpool suit looks good every time we see it.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

It does, it does, it really does, dude. I have the Deadpool Blu-rays, and you can it has it's texturized on the sleeve. You have to sleep, yeah. It's dope as hell, like for real.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Oh man, and then okay, you know what though? I will also say if we're gonna knock it, right? Because we're trying to be fair here, he does only wear the cowl in the third act. Because it's so fucking epic.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

That's all I'm saying, bro. It's so fucking epic, it's epic, bro. It's so fucking epic, bro. Come on, man. Look, listen. You tell me you didn't lose your shit in the movie theater, dude.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

When I saw that, I was like, did he do it? Oh no, he didn't. I was like, oh well, you know, I know he I know he's not gonna wear the suit, right? Because he's he's Hugh Jackman. It's a whole joke. Then he doesn't wear the fucking costume.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

You know what? You know what? And then hold up. The only way this Wolverine suit can be beat is in doomsday if he wears the yellow and brown one. I'm a yellow blue guy. I'm a yellow, I don't like, I don't like the yellow and brown one. I don't, but I cannot lie. I think it would work. It would work, like dead serious. Like, I cannot lie when I say I prefer yellow and blue, and of course I prefer yellow and blue. But the yellow, that's the only way you're gonna be able to top that Deadpool and Wolverine bringing the cowl out for the first time, is if he does the the yellow and brown, yeah, or or they do yellow black. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

I mean, but like, dude, it's and even then, I still don't think the yellow black's as good as the yellow blue.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

No, I need the yellow black with the fucking stripes on the side. You know what I'm saying? Like the claw mark stripes on the side of it.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

They're listening, people are listening to this right now, these fucking dorts on their fucking.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

I don't give a fuck. Dude, listen, we're only on pick two, bro. This is gonna get hard. But I wanna I really want to call it a tie. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Here's here's here's what I say we do. Let's go to round three. Okay. And by round three, if we haven't decided, we flip a coin. Is that fair? I'm not flipping no fucking coins.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I'm not flipping no fucking coins. Fuck that. You shouldn't be laughing.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

We'll go around, we'll get we'll come back to it. That's fair? We'll come back to the case.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Okay, since that one was a stalemate, I'll let you choose the next one.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Okay, all right. Let's go. Oh man, I'm horrified now, bro. You know how hard this is gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Okay, I'm gonna give this one an honorable mention. This isn't my pick, though. Okay, the Tom Holland Spider-Man brand new day traditional suit, and I would have picked it, but we haven't really seen it yet, and that felt a little scummy to do. So I'm gonna go with my normal Spider-Man pick, and I'm gonna say the Toby McGuire suit from Spider-Man 1, 2, and 3.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

You know what I love about this suit, dude? The texture on the website, yes, dude. The way and people thought I was crazy. Oh people thought I was crazy, dude, when I said, Man, that shit, it popped more. You know what I'm saying? I love it. It popped more in live action.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

It does, and you kind of need that because, like, part of the problem, and obviously, like I said, I'm not gonna count the con suit as much as I love the way it looks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Um question, are we keeping this strictly live action? I mean, I guess if you want to pull some uh no, no, no, no, I'm just asking because we can make an animated one later, but I'm just asking, because if we can't do it, I was going strictly live action. Okay, okay, because I'm not gonna use what I got in my pocket right now then. No, no, no, no. I was literally going Spider-Man Unlimited for the 1990s. Oh, yeah, that's that's a fun suit. That's a tough ass suit. But I will go. I ain't gonna do a Spider-Man. I ain't gonna do a Spider-Man, I ain't gonna do a Spider-Man, it's not fair. Let me pull my first villain. And I gotta go. Oh, this is hard. I got a bunch of villains here. I gotta go. I gotta go, I gotta go winter soldier stealth suit from Captain America Winter Soldier. Oh, yeah, this is a good one.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Okay, this is this is fair. I like this. I like the stealth suit.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Yeah. Man, you know how I feel about my Spider-Man now. I do too, but dude, Bucky with the face mask, like dude with the with the stealth mask on, and like the leather with the and then the iconic shot of him grabbing the shield. I ain't even gonna lie. Cats think I'm tripping when I say that Winter Soldier is a top four villain, bro. He's a top four villain in the in the I mean, yeah, he becomes a hero, but like he's a fucking problem, okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

You know, man, I'm also gonna say this this one gets a big advantage of like it's probably the most comic. Comic accurate.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Yeah, I'm telling you. It's not like Sebastian's fan, bro. Pulling it fucking off, bro.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

I mean, I love the fan, and it shouldn't work. This is another one that, like, in live action, it's such a busy design already. Yeah, that it really shouldn't work, but it does. So it gets that big advantage going for it. But then Spider-Man, like, for a long time, this was a lot of people Spider-Man, man.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Yeah, it was. I mean, I give I can't listen, bro. I'm not knocking it, like my childhood is Spider-Man 2002, bro.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

It's got great texture, like literally.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Oh, that you break it now. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_02 21:15

I said I'm like, I like like we just said, I love the texture, I think it looks great. It's got the big advantage of it. Is the first Spider-Man suit, the eyes are awesome.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Oh man, this is another one, bro.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Bro, this is gonna get hard. Okay, this is this is gonna get hard. I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Let me get Wolverine and I'll let you get the Spider-Man. Big deal. All right. That's all I can because I cannot listen. I cannot vote. I love Toby McGuire's Spider Man, but I can't sit here and say it. I can't sit there and say he completely beats Bucky.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

No, no. It's this is a hard fought victory for Bucky. It's it it works so well. It looks great with and without the mask, which is a big contributor.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

Um I think a lot of my favorite moments for for like Toby's Spider-Man is when the suit is up. Yeah, we're just yeah, it looks looks so good. We'd go on this for hours. We'd go over this for hours. Go ahead, Anthony. Yeah, like Bucky looks great with and without the mask, which is a huge thing that I can't say for a lot of these.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

And then like a lot of my favorite Toby moments are like when the suit's ripped and it's battle damage. I think it looks great. Look, like let me be fair. I'm saying, I'm saying Toby, but this is this is a like a different world. You could maybe you you could taunt me in the bucky.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

It's that buck you one that's so tough, bro. You didn't expect me to pull that one, did you?

SPEAKER_02 23:06

No, no. I you know, I had it as like a backup. It was like one of my seven seeds. Yeah. And I was like, man, low key, bro. Like, I feel bad. Disrespecting this.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

I'm telling you. Alright, man. It's on me. Yeah, it's yours. All right, so we got move Wolverine and Spider-Man move. Oh, that's not gonna be easy. Alright. Fuck. I don't know, man. I really don't know. How many more we got?

SPEAKER_02 23:42

That was round four. The start of round three.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

That was round three, so this is four, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Yeah, this was four. Whoever wins this is going up against Toby Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Ugh. That's a big well, might as well go ahead and do it. I'm going Andrew Garfield's Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

I knew you were gonna pull it. Shit on that movie so much, but it has one good thing about it.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

It's that fucking suit, bro. And there's a couple scenes. There's a couple scenes. But it's that fucking suit, man. Alright, well.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Do I do it now? Do I do it to you? You can try. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna throw I'ma throw you for a loop here, okay? Because this is not someone you would have expected me to pull.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

I'm gonna say Aquaman, the black manta suit. Fuck you, bitch. That's in my motherfucking damn list. That's in my top two, you motherfucker. It's so good, dude. You know, you is my favorite villain against me. Man, get out my face. I don't even talk about you. You know, I'm not gonna lie, I'll give it to you. You can't give it to me. It's already there. It's already there. Okay, so we agree, Black Banta? I can't say that. I I was like, because there's there's an argument, man. It looks great. Yeah, and I I got one for you even better. Because you're choosing you're choosing the one from part one, right? I was gonna say, I mean, I could go part one or part two.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

They're pretty even for me. Yeah, probably probably part two. I like he's a little slender, I like he's a little more slender.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

And it's and it's got the silver helmet and shit, the old school helmet.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

But I mean, bro, it shouldn't work. It looks dumb as hell to some people.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Yeah, but nah, man. That's that's traditional Black Manta, bro. That's for people who don't know, this is my favorite superhero villain. This is remember when he first told me this. I didn't believe him. This is my favorite superhero villain. Black Manta is my go-to, like favorite villain. I love his arc. I love his son. You know what I said? If you didn't know Aqualad is his son. Hasn't always been like this. I think I was in my late teens, early 20s when New 52 came out, and I think that I don't, I'm not sure. Is that what it made him black? I think so. Well, no, I think he started. But uh I found out because let's be fair, nobody actually grew up watching Aquaman. Really? Yeah, nobody. Anyone who says they did is a liar. I mean, unless they're like old as fuck, you know what I'm saying? So and I got the lore for Black Manta, and I'm like, yo, I've really dicked this guy. This dude's dope as hell. Golly, but it's Andrew Garfield, bro. Oh, I almost want it. I I almost want to give it. It's Andrew's fucking because like that's super tough. That suits fucking tough, but I gotta go black. I gotta go black. I'll give you that one. I gotta go black man to go. I would I couldn't sleep, I couldn't sleep if I damn chose anything else.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

Because I'm assuming you're saying the amazing Spider-Man 2. Suit. Yeah. Yeah, like the Amazing Spider-Man 2 suit. I I might be a little biased and say I like that suit slightly more, but this black mancha suit's too good for me to ignore, bro.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

Yeah, it is, and it's on my fucking list too, John.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

I had to go there, man.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

All right. All right, well, I'm starting us. Yeah, who you got for number five? Wow. This is this is tough.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a weird one.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Peacemaker. Okay. It looks good.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Actually, you know what? Scratch that. I do have a different one. I'm gonna pull another one of my favorites. Titans Nightwing.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

It looks good. Yeah, this this is one. But I got one that looks I got one that looks better. Go ahead. I'm going nano suit from Infinity Wars, Iron Man.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

I don't think it makes it. Oh shit. That suit's tough. It's tough. The reveal, the reveal is tough. That suit's tough. But it's not the best looking suit. Yes, it is. Like, I like that it's sleek. It's sleek as hell. And then, like, bro, the damn this the gadgets on it, bro. Now, granted, they didn't go the nano suit from Infinity War.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Okay, yeah, I was making sure it wasn't the like the one that he had from Endgame. That's the same suit. Well, I mean, because that one has the energy projection, and then an energy.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

That's the same suit.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

They're similar enough. I don't know why I'm trying to separate them. Yeah, they're the same suit. It's like, bro. Look, I might be a little bit of a hater here, but this nightwing suit, great, man. Like, they finally gave it to me. I finally got what I thought I'd never get. A live action, good-looking nightwing suit. Yeah, it looks good. Like, the only knock that you could probably throw at it is he's got a little bit more dick bulge than I think he needs.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

I wasn't looking down there, but yeah, even you know, whatever tickles your fancy.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

No, you know, I was I was fucking trying to come up with everything to make sure this dude can make it. And I'm like, the one thing they can bring up is for some fucking reason he's got a massive bulge.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

It looks good, it's clean. Like, it's I love the colors, right? They pulled off the black and blue perfect. Yeah. I might just be fighting it up.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

I might be fighting it up. I mean, I don't know, man. Uh I don't hate it. You know what I'm saying? But I just I just think that look at the have you did you look at the Iron Man suit? Yeah, yeah, of course, bro. We watched the same movie. I'm talking about have like, are you looking at it now?

SPEAKER_02 30:48

You know what? Look, let me pull up a picture of it right now.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Like, the only thing, only grab I got is that they they didn't go to comic route because it would have made fans squeamish because you know the nanos are supposed to be coming from inside his body.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Yeah, there was blood, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Oh maybe okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I for I forgot about how good this looked.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

I'm telling you, this shit's fucking gorgeous, bro. That's a gorgeous ass suit, bro. And then he made it better in end game. He made it better in end game because it had more gold on it. But like, I like the contrast. I like the contrast of the red. That nano suit's tough, bro.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I for I'm sorry, Nightwig. I tried. I tried, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

That's who's tough. That's who's tough. And look, it was gonna either be that one or the nano suit Mach 2. I don't know if it's Mach 2, but I'll just say Mach 2. But uh the Nano Suit 2 from Endgame, or I was gonna pull out from my favorite one from the briefcase. That bitch is tough. The one he pulled from the silver and red, bro, the silver and up. That bitch is tough. Like for real. Man. Iron Man, Iron Man is hard to beat, bro. I'm a bit of a purist here. I think the very first Iron Man suit's the best Iron Man suit. I like the Mach 2. I mean, what is it? Mach 2 or Mark III. I like it. I think I think it's Mach III, because I think Mach 2 is when it's silver. Yeah, but like, bro, good God, bro. How do we get listen? This man don't miss. Like, they're serious. He don't miss. Look, look, look, I said somebody somebody made it in silver, John, just to appease you. I'm about to send it to you. It looks it looks good in silver.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

It looks, yeah. I mean, and you know how I feel about my red. Red being my favorite color and all.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

Yeah, but like, bro, this shit tough. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

It looks it looks good in end game where he does have the more goal. Yeah, I think the Infinity War one looks a little better. I also love when it's battle damage.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Yeah, bro, and then like you got the battle with him, and Thanos Thanos rips the mask off. It grows back halfway. Like, dude, it's I'm gonna tell you like this. Nobody, and I say nobody in all of Endgame whooped Thanos' ass like Iron Man did. I am Iron Man. That's right. They should have dropped a song. They should have dropped a song like they did, I'll tell you. But yeah. Yeah, I will I said that would have made it. That would have been bro, bro. What? Yeah, you need you need you need the fucking the vocals. All you needed was the instrumental, just that first bit of iron. Iron Man, yeah, that shit would have been fired. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

But so Iron Man makes it? Yeah, I'll give it to you. I can't. Even in even in my worst worst world, I can't deny that shit's fire. And I tried, guys. I tried.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

Well, you're up next. Who you who you got who you got? No, that was me. It's you. No. I chose Nightwing. Oh, yeah, you did. Well asshole. Well, I gotta go none other here. What's this? Not round what? I gotta keep track.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

One, two, three, four, five, six. So we got four more.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Alright. I know you're gonna be like, I don't know how you're gonna feel about this one, but I love this suit. I love the character in this suit. I loved it. It looked great in the movie. I gotta go Blue Beetle, man. DC's Iron Man. I mean, we were we were going a similar a similar path.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

And I do like the Blue Beetle suit.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

I do. I mean, I had to go my favorite color, man. Black and blue, man. You know what I'm saying? Shit. But I'm gonna go a little bit harder, and I'm gonna go the Black Panther suit. Well, I didn't think you were gonna choose it. That's why I had it. That's why I asked how many. I think I think it looks great. It does. It does.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Which one though? Uh I could say the Killmonger. I do love the black and gold.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

I think Black Panther, that's Killmonger. I know, I know, but I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

I'm gonna just say 2018 Black Panther, the black with the silver trigger. Yeah. Yeah, like looks great. I love that little extra addition of the purple for the kinetic force.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

They need to know what ears. We ain't gonna argue this one. I'm gonna give it to you just because the chapter posed me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Also, real quick before I forget, I think a lot of the time they mess up the animal ears. I think it like they either go too far one way or the other. But they really nailed it here. Like the ears don't feel too too big or too small.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

But I will I will slide it to you. No, I just chose. It's on you. Oh, it is me, it is me. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

I don't want to go. I might lose this, man. I might. But I'm gonna go with the Scarlet Witch outfit. From Multiverse of Madness.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Okay. Go for it. I gotta figure out who I'm choosing.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

That was another hard one for me, I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

I like it. I'm looking at it. Forgot how good it looks, right? It looks good. I'm no, no, I didn't forget how good it was. It looks good. But I'm trying to figure out which one of these I'm taking. There's two of there's three good ones, and I don't know which one I want to take. But golly man. I'm only choosing one from this movie, and I don't know. There's three people I want to choose. I'm going to Rorschach from 2009 watch. I didn't expect any of these to make it. I'm not gonna lie to you. Because I was gonna go to Comedian and I was gonna go Owl Man, but I was like, let me go ahead and get my boy Rorschach's blow.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Yeah, his looks really good. And also it's early early CGI that doesn't look terrible.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

No, but like the trench coat, so fucking comedy accurate. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's it's simple.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

It's simple as fuck. They pull off the face really well, which is which is a big thing. Because there is definitely a world where the face doesn't look as good as it does here.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

But weirdly enough, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:56

You know, I think Night Owl that's his name. Not owl, man. Night Owl. I had to think about it. But yeah, damn. But like I thought about the comedian. I love the comedian's costume, but I just feel like there's not enough screen time with him in the costume.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

And that was gonna be the one thing I think that you could throw against Scarlet Witch.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

But I love hers. Same thing, very comic accurate. I think they pulled it off really well. The crown, the like that more burgundy red that she's got going on. It's also the addition of the black fingertips, yeah. Really stylistic choice that I liked.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Yeah. And her gradually just getting to that costume. Oh that's just dope.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Oh man, dude, Rorschach.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Let me double check the movie. I mean, you're dealing with two people who are schizophrenic, I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Yeah, they they are. Give me back my face! My face!

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

Oh man, I'm looking at it right now. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Oh, this is close. It's close. That's what I said. It's not it's not not close.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

What do you think knocks? Like, what knock would you have against Rorschach?

SPEAKER_00 40:31

I don't have one, bro. That's the sad thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

What knock would you have against Scarlet Winch? I don't have one, bro. I'll be real. I don't have one. Yeah, I was like, that's where I'm really like tripping here. I was like, is there something I could nitpick? I guess you could nitpick that Rorschach is in a better movie. Yes, yes, but uh that's is that how we're gonna decide this?

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Oh no, man. I'm just I'm throwing everything at the wall. Seeing if it sticks.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

I mean, like, I mean, he is in a better movie. That's that's not a conversation. Um I like red more than I like, you know, the white, the white and black.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

But is that really an argument?

SPEAKER_02 41:25

Yeah, I was like, wow, I didn't expect this to be the one that was really gonna hang us up.

SPEAKER_00 41:32

Yeah, no, right, dude. It's gonna be like, I'm gonna be real. I like I don't know, I like Rorschach's more. That I mean, and I know it comes down to that. I just like Rorschach's a little more because of how comic accurate it is. Like, not saying hers isn't comic accurate. Yeah, it looks like a little bit less different, but like Rorschach looks like I mean guess the slim, the simplistic nature of his costume makes it easier, but like for it to be that accurate, and then the CGI on the face.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

This this is gonna be this is gonna be our our our designer, okay? I'm gonna give it to Rorschach and I'm gonna tell you why. She doesn't have black fingertips, she has black gloves. That's how nitpicky I'm gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

If that's up to you, I mean that's how you want to do it, you know. I'll tell you like this. I'll tell you like this. Go ahead. And this is go down to the nature of the character. Rorschach is more intimidating without powers and without his mask. Anthony? Yo, can you hear me? Okay, now I can hear you. I said Rorschach is more intimidating without powers and without his mask.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

I don't know, man, because she looks great when she's running around.

SPEAKER_00 43:05

The kid's all I gotta say. All I'm gonna say, yeah, I can't say because like dude, she does have that scene with the fucking Avengers.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Yeah, I love the scene, and and for as much shit as Multiverse of Madness gets, the scene where he goes to see her for the first time, yeah, and she's sitting down, and you see uh like you see you see the like the way she changes the the background, yeah. Like that's great, that was really intimidating.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

But I don't know, bro. Damn, I can't like I said the more I think about the movie is was like she damn she she kills a whole fucking team, dude. No problem.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Yeah, and it's it's very entertaining, it's very well done. But you know what, you know what? I think. This is where we gotta decide. She wears it less of the movie than Rorschach wears his.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

I guess. I ain't timing.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Well, because remember, there's a lot of the movies she's wearing like normal clothes.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Yeah, you only got like what the prison scene where Rorschach isn't really in his Yeah, isn't wearing it.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

So if we're being fair, and this is close, and I do think there's there's a very fair argument for Wanda. If I'm being fair, he doesn't like she doesn't wear hers as much.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

So we'll give it to Rorschach. Reluctantly so, but wow. That was that was tough. I was not expecting that one to be as tough as it was.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

So what's this? It's it's you, man. You start us. How many we got left? Three or two?

SPEAKER_02 44:59

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So three. Three. This is far harder than the bad series.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Yeah, it is. Man. And I'm trying to go a little different, you know what I'm saying? Not what you expect.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

Yeah, yeah, have some fun with it.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

You took that one from me. Well, this is hard, dude. Because I don't know what the hell to do. I'm trying to get my picks in. You said what? We can do a three-way round. Nah, no, it ain't gonna be fair. Um, dude, I don't know, man. Alright, I'm gonna throw this one out there. I don't know how far he's gonna get. Let's go with Judge Dredd from Dread, Carl Irvin.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Oh, okay, okay, okay. I was I was like, hold up, hold up.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

I am the love. Hey, regardless of what his suit does look good, though.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

He takes off the mask. He does.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

That is true. That is true, but I'm just saying, but he does the suit does look good. It's your boy, man. But anyway, yeah, it's Carl Urban from Dread.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

Oh man, okay, non okay, okay, okay. Let's go. You know what? I might lose this, but I'm taking I'm taking the risk, okay?

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:59

Battenson.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Like, I gotta go with my gut. I thought I was gonna hate this suit when I saw it.

unknown 47:13

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

I love it, bro. Like, I love the short ears. That's your whole thing. You this man hates long ears, bro.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

He is an earist. Yep. Only thing I'm gonna tell you the biggest gripe I have about this one is the collar. I don't care for the collar.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

My only thing was um it like I feel like it doesn't get enough fights.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

Yeah, and then another thing, and I know this is such a nitpicky thing. I don't like the bat symbol on the chest. It's not a bat symbol, really. I like that it's a battery. Yeah, but it's like I said, it's not a bad symbol.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

Like, I'm a big fan of how intense this suit is. I think it's got that great little mix of like, you know, the black and the gray. It's got the complimentary colors. Well, tell you what.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

I'll retract Carl Urban. How about that?

SPEAKER_02 48:14

You gotta do it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Can I I mean if you allow it, I'll retract Carl Urban. Um, but I know you're gonna say it. I'm going Christian Bale, Batman Begins. Oh, okay. Stressful. Far less stressful. I think I I everybody says the second suit. I don't care for the second suit in the dark night. But Christian Bale's second suit, Batman Begins. He doesn't have the voice. He doesn't have the voice, but that suit is tough. That suit is tough. That suit is tough. But that voice is not. His voice in Batman is good. I mean, Batman Begins is good.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

And Batman Begins is not that bad.

SPEAKER_00 49:03

Yeah, that's it's not bad at all. It's good. It's actually a decent Batman voice. He actually look he looks like Batman.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

For some reason, he became this guy, and he talks like this. Sometimes long enough.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

But you know what, you know what he has over Pattinson? What? He has a bat emblem on his chest. And I'm I'm doing I'm doing Batman Begins versus the Batman because it's only fair. Yeah, Batman begins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

I mean, you could have pulled the Dark Knight. I don't think it's the most unfair.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

No, but I don't like the Dark Knight suit. I don't really care for that suit. Too skinny.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't love how much it hugs his face. This is like us having to be Batman fans and be super nitpicky. But then again, it took time for the battens and ears to grow on me. Because I always felt like the one thing I didn't love was the nose.

SPEAKER_00 50:09

If I'm gonna be real, I don't like how open his mouth is. Like the cow's opening. I don't really care. I know it's in sections and shit, but I don't really care about that. I will say this, Rock Paston does have one of the hardest posters out there.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Yeah, yeah. It's great. Do we go based off the Batmobile?

SPEAKER_00 50:29

Why, you want to win it that way? That ain't got nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Hey, you know he's got a better Batmobile.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

Does he know? I mean, my Batmobile flipped the damn 18-wheeler. And that was a part, that was a part of a bat. That was part, that was like the front part of the Batmobile. Like just the two times.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

Batmobile is far less Batmobile and far more tank.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

And the last time I checked, the greatest Batman story of all time, Batmobile was a tank. So I was a far less Batmobile. If anything, it makes mine more Batmobile.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

That was the most personal attack I'd ever heard someone take.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

The fuck you say about my Batman? That's right. The fuck. Come on. I ain't gonna lie. I love the Batman begins on that. I gotta give it a Pattenson, though. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Like this is pretty close for me. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Yeah, I gotta give it a patten. The Battenson.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

What's your next one? Oh man. Okay. Just know it's losing.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

I don't know. I don't know about that. We got what? Two left, right? Two left, right? We got two left. All right. I feel like these next rounds are gonna be a lot easier. I'm not gonna lie. If you say so. I'm probably lying to myself a little bit. Um, I'm gonna say Loki. Loki.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Loki. Loki. Loki. And then to that, sir, I got to go Thor from Infinity War and from uh Raktorop. That's the same person. iPad story. That's where I'm going.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

I was gonna say, my biggest gripe is that he loses the iPad.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

Yeah, I gotta go iPad Story. I don't like, but I do like the short hair, I do like the whole look.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

I think first off, Infinity War is the best version of Thor we've ever gotten to screen.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Yeah, seriousness, all that shit. War hungry. I think Doomsday is gonna is gonna do him justice, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

But I do love how comic accurate Loki is. Like the fact that Tom Hillson could pull off the horns, and it looks good, right? It looks good, which is not something I could typically say for a lot of these like late stage. I I really like that. I think I gotta double check. Let me let me take a quick gander at endgame Thor. Or I'm sorry, not Endgame. Infinity War Thor. Okay, 'cause it's been a little bit, so infinity war Thor.

SPEAKER_00 54:00

I forgot it was black. Yeah, it's just tough.

SPEAKER_02 54:05

Six, that looks good. Stormbreaker, the cape. I don't remember this suit looking this good. I told you. That shit's tough. Okay, and then let me look up Loki real quick. I love the Loki suit. Him with the horns. How comic accurate it is.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Which Loki are you picking though?

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Oh, Avengers, first movie.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

I I did, I did go there.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

I think he kills it with the Bifrost, the golden green looks great. I mean, like, I might have to give you this, bro, but like Loki is Loki is tough.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

Loki's tough.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Like, it looks great. Am I gripping?

SPEAKER_00 55:08

No, no. I mean, Tom Hiddleston pulls it off. Yeah, like it's dorky.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

I love that he's got the helmet.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

But he can he fails in comparison to his big brother. Yeah, I'll give it to you. I'll give you a door. It looks good. I tell you, man, I'm pulling. Hey, I'm pulling two. Last two are my two favorite costumes of all time. Like.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

Okay. Well, it's yours, Anthony. Floor is yours. BVS.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

I knew it. Bat flag, baby. I'll let you pick which one you want. You want the gray suit or the armor suit? I'm asking you which one you want to lose to. The gray suit or the armor suit. Okay, that's what I thought you were going to pull against Battenson. I was so scared. I was almost there, but I was like, it's not there.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

It's so good. This is the most comic accurate live-action Batman suit we've ever gotten. He's the greatest Batman of all time. It looks phenomenal. It looks so good. It looks so good.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

And then, hey, you're talking about comic accurate Batmobile? He got it. And he got the fat bat on his chest. And then like the he's got the physique, which is a big thing. Yep. And then he's built like that. The workout montage, bro. And then, hey, I ain't gonna lie. You know what sold me on this movie? I mean, I was already gonna go see it. But the scene with Superman in the sky and them him at the at the bat signal in the rain.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

Okay. I'm gonna fight my damnedness here, okay? You can try. I'ma pull something. You can try. Because this this is one that was also on my list, but I left off.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

You already know.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Damn, am I gonna be that guy? You can try. I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

Oh man, dude, this is hard. This is fucking hard. We ain't even made it to round two yet.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

I know, bro. This is insane. Guys, no, you're in for a treat. Fuck it. Tom Holland, Spider-Man from Homecoming.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 57:52

That's what I'm pulling.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

You better all bring in the blood clot bat.

SPEAKER_02 58:01

Hey, don't you dare talk about the crazy costume, bro?

SPEAKER_00 58:06

You better all bring in the blood clot back, bro. Ben Affleck, Ben Affleck. Listen, bro, I'm not gonna lie, I love talking. I would have chose to say specifically the iron spider. What? What? Bro, I would have easily chose the blue. Man, the iron spider is not beaten Ben Affleck.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

If this, hey bro, if we had the suit, you went. The out.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

You went out for a second. Repeat yourself.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

If I wasn't giving myself the caveat of not using the other suit because we haven't really seen it yet.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

I mean, I would have chose, I would have chose from I would have that wasn't from homecoming.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Oh, well, because you see him for like a second. You're right, you're right. I guess I should have said like that's yeah, that's what I said.

SPEAKER_00 59:00

That's from endgame. It's in Affinity War. We get in the Affinity War. That's like, hold up, that ain't from Homecoming. Yeah, you see it, but he turns around and but I ain't even gonna lie, the original is better. The original suit? I love the original suit.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

Yeah. If we were rating our favorite Spider-Man like homemade suits, it's not my favorite though. I mean, it's not homemade though.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

Tony gave him that suit. Yeah, I know, I know, but I love the homemade suits. Yeah, but I think it's I think it's honestly it's definitely number two for me, number two and number three, as far as like live action suits. It looks great.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

It's very comic accurate. The only thing I think you can nitpickes is like yeah, the black stripes under the armpits.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

And even then, they're not that egregious. When we saw it in the trailer, we thought that's Spider-Man. Yeah, I was like, it's that's very Spider-Man. You know what's crazy? Both of these suits debuted in the same year, 2016. Yeah, 2016. That's kind of crazy. Yep. But if you I don't think it looks better than Ben Affleck suit, man. Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck suit is ripped strictly straight from the Dark Knight Returns.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

I don't know why I'm trying to fight this, bro. I was gonna lose no matter what the fucking shit is.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

This shit this shit is literally ripped straight from the the iron suit and the damn gray suit straight from Dark Knight Returns, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

The gray suit is the best one.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:39

The gray suit, yes, that's my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

I knew I was gonna lose this. I didn't I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

I said I knew I was gonna lose this one. I'm not gonna lie to you. This was one I walked into because as soon as you said it, I was like, yeah. I mean, you tried.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

I did, I did. Now, let's get on to second and third. We we didn't kill, we took a crazy amount of time getting this first round out.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:09

Okay, all right, guys. We're gonna try and speed up a little bit here, but no promises because this is still going to be very hard for us.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:18

Okay. Round two. Round one of round two. Corn sweat Superman versus Wolverine. I'm not gonna lie, this is pretty easy for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

Well, you going Wolverine? I'm going Wolverine. As much as I want Corn Sweat to win this, I go Wolverine. Okay. I was like, that felt because like an easy one for yeah, just because of the impact of Wolverine's reveal and all that stuff. It took it took 20 plus years for us to get that, so yeah. And it looks great. It does.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

I don't want to do this next round, Anthony. Let's go. Come on, man. OB Spider-Man versus Black Mantha.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

DC is a good one. You know, you know, though those two are yours.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

I know, bro. I know. I gotta you know where I'm going. You're going, Black Mantha. I'm going, Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

I think I think Spider-Man has been a good one. I'm gonna be real. I'm gonna tell you this. The wow factor for both when you first seen them are crazy. Because they're both the first iteration of the suits, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

At least in live action.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

In live action, that's what I'm saying, in live action. But to Toby's disadvantage, it's not the best Spider-Man live action suit. I that's the only disadvantage.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

I don't know if I can say that though, bro, because like there's an argument for this to be number one.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

There is. I mean, if if we're arguing legacy, then black men are gotta go. If you want to argue legacy.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

I was gonna say that there is something to be said about how much staying power this one has.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:18

Yeah, I mean, it's still one of my favorite suits. So I would say Spider-Man. Like I said, I do think, like you said, legacy. I think legacy is the only thing that helps it, but it's not the best looking. It's not the it's not the best live-action suit, and it's not really comic accurate, but that's that's that's whereas Black Mantis is like comic accurate. Extremely comic accurate, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Yeah. I was gonna say also the variants of the suit are nice, you know, like the different types of battle damage it gets.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

I I don't know if you'll count this. Maybe this is a little bit of cheapness.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

The black suit also helps elevate this. It doesn't do you know how I feel about Spider-Man 3, so that ain't helping your case with me. I'm I'm going off merit and legacy alone, which is the only round I'm gonna give it to you in. I'll give it, I'll give it to you over there over Black Panther. Okay, alright, alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

Then there's another one. Nano suit Iron Man versus Black Panther.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

Oh. I ain't gonna lie to you. I think this is where Black Panther ends. I don't know, man. I love Black Panther. I love how I love Black Panther. I have a Black Panther shirt. I do. And it's dope. It is, it's a dope suit, but that fucking nano suit, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:53

You uh this might be recency bias talking because I was gonna say the Black Panther suit, but you making me look up that that nano suit again.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

That nano suit is tough, bro. I forgot how good it looked. But that nano suit. It looks good. I love Black Panther, but Black Panther is like top three fucking damn black superhero for me, and like, but bro, that nano suit, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

It's also the same thing, it's got the variants, which does help.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

Yeah, like that nano suit's tough, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:29

And this is one of the few ones where we can really rip that card. Like, it and the Spider-Man suit are the only ones where we can really rip like the different types of versions that exist of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Yeah, I mean, but that nano suit is tough, bro. I love the Black Panther suit, I really do. Like, it's by far one of my favorite live action suits. It's just that nano suit. Hey, I know I keep saying it. That nano suit is tough, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

I'll say nano suit, but like there's a world where you taught me into Black Panther.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:05

Yeah, I mean, dude, there's a world where I'm talking me into Black Panther, but like, damn, dude, that nano suit is tough, bro. It's it like, and again, bro, I just looked it up again because I forgot.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

I was like, damn, it does look that good. Like, I forgot. It does look that good. So, do you want to go Iron Man?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Hold on, let me take a look at this Black Panther suit.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:31

Black Panther suit holds up real well, too. And if we're being fair, the gold Ikeanba.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

I know that's killmonger. Yeah, but yeah, the gold, but like that Black Panther suit's tough, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

Damn. JC is tough, dog. I'm willing to give you Black Panther because you gave me Black Mantha.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:54

Yeah, but I mean, both of these are your picks. No, the Iron Man's my pick.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

No, Iron Man is my biggest pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:01

Yeah. I mean, I love the black and purple. But like, bro, there's something about that nano suit, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

And I'm I'm also a sucker for black and purple, purple being one of my favorite colors in general.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

Bro, I love the Black Panther suit. And I know, like, our black listeners is like, bro, what? Like, yeah, bro. Like, I love this suit. When I first seen it, I love the design. RP chat with Bozeman.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

Again, like it's it's got that nice balance of the comic accurate, but bringing it to live action.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

Yeah, but that's extremely well. But that nano suit is tough, man. I gotta, I gotta give it to Tony, bro. I really do. Like, I bro, listen, by a smidge. By a smidget, I gotta give it to Tony. This is again, bro, this is tough. It is maybe it changes when we revisit this shit, but like I had Black Panther on my list. John B. Anthony.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:06

You thought that was tough. I need you to pull up your big boy britches because this next round I think is harder. Let's go. Rorschach versus Battinson. I'm a like, I don't know, dude. I don't know. Because Battenson is like a grounded Batman brought to life.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

Rorschach is like a grounded black Batman ripped from the damn pages of the comic book. I'll tell you, Rorschach, Rorschach probably has the best fucking Batman voice. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Debatably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

I I I will say Batflick might get might not be a perfect Batman. His voice isn't bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:05

Yeah. Hmm. I'll let you since you've been itching, flip a coin for it.

unknown 1:09:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:15

Do you call it heads or tails? It don't matter. I mean you uh heads, Rorschach, tails, bats. Okay. Coin is flipping. I'm not mad at either one.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

And it is heads.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:34

Rorschach moves on. Yeah, I'm not mad at either one of those, so like, yeah, that's the only way. Alright, who's next?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

I mean, do you just want me to move one on? You might as well get a fucking die round. It's bat flick versus Thor.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:49

That's harder than what you think it is, but yeah, Batflick.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:53

Yeah, I was like, come on now, man. Alright. Yeah. This next round is Wolverine versus Toby McGuire Spider-Man. Legacy ain't gonna beat you here, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:10

Legacy ain't gonna hit you here.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

I mean the weight for the suit.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

Yeah. I think I think I think Wolverine edges it out, bro, because of the comic accuracy.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:26

It is. Even though I do like the texturing, like at least for movies.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:31

Yeah, but it's not comic accurate. And the colors aren't even comic accurate. They're a little darker.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

But he's his red is too his red is too rooted, and his blue is too dark.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:43

We got a violent, bloody Wolverine in yellow and blue. And it looks the park. Yeah, it looks the park.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:53

People, I'm not gonna lie, like when I hear people say. No joke, Anthony, no joke. This movie was nothing but fan service, and it was stinky poo-poo garbage. One, objectively, you're wrong. Subjectively, you're wrong. And who cares when it looks this good? Yeah. Um, I always say there's a place for some fan service, and this is a good example of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

Yeah, I mean, like, dude, we waited 20-some years for this movie, and it, I mean, for this suit, and it delivered. I love Toby Maguire. Listen, I love Toby Maguire. I do. But if we're basing this off the best looking comic accurate, it's Wolverine. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:49

I I can't argue. I can't argue.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

Okay, there we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

I was like, why am I looking at this wrong? Why? Wait, what? Okay. Here. And then you did not move on. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:15

John fucked up the bracket again.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:18

No, no. Somehow we got another uh a three-way at the end here.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:24

Because you didn't you miscount it. Who who didn't? Hold on. Something happened. Go back to the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

Superman versus Wolverine.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:34

Wait, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. There's ten, ten brackets here. Thor got eliminated last round. And then it was our last bracket. You know what happened. What?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

Hold on. Hold on. Let me see. So. Yeah, so damn, it should be four. It should be four left.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:10

Because Black Panther just got eliminated. Rorschach versus Battenson happened. Loki versus Thor. And then Thor went up against Batfleck. Batfleck doesn't have another contender, so it would be Battenson versus Rorschach versus the nanosuit. Which honestly is close. Like I'm open to doing a three-way, or we can throw in one more round. Because then Wolverine is in the finals.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:47

I don't think so, bro. I think because we gotta I don't know. Should we do 12 then? Because like 10 should work, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:59

Clearly, we don't know how brackets work.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Yeah, clearly.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:03

So I think it's gotta be future reference, guys. We're sorry we messed this up two times in a row. Yeah, I mean So I think it's gotta be 12 moving forward.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:13

Or either, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:15

So no, you know what it is? It always has to be in a multiple of four.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it's saying. Because normally like eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it would be four, and then it's two, and then it's one. You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

All right, well, cool. We got a three-way. We'll we'll we'll roll with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:34

Or I we put we let the um we could have Wolverine go against the nano suit, and we can have Rorschach versus Batfleet.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

That let's do that. Okay, all right, all right. Or or yeah, yeah, let's do let's do Rorschach's out the way anyway. Yeah, I was gonna say Rorschach doesn't be the nano suit. He doesn't beat the nanosuit, he doesn't beat Wolverine, he doesn't beat and he doesn't beat Batflick.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:05

So uh So you want to do a three-way Wolverine, Iron Man? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

Yeah, let's just do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

Alright, so Batflick, Iron, Iron Man, Nano suit, and Wolverine. All your picks, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:19

I mean, what can I say? I love comic book movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:22

Um, wow, this is legacy helps.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

Legacy helps nobody here. Yeah, no, it doesn't but comic comic accurate is sick. That's all I'm saying. It's sick, man. The only one you can falter, maybe would be Iron Man, but I'm pretty sure somewhere there's an Iron Man suit that looks like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:52

I think you could nitpick. Well, even then, yeah, like there are Iron Man suits that look like that. You could nitpick the sleeves on Wolverine. But he loses them at the end. Yeah, I was like, if you want to be a super purist, but like when he got the cowl on, he doesn't have sleeves.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:10

Yeah. So this is tough. I'm gonna tell you what we should do. We should call it a day and just rank them one, two, and three. I'm telling you. Because there's no losers here, bro. There's no fucking losers here, bro. I legitimately, this could be a tie. Because you have, because like like even if you use so the variant of each suit, right? You got Wolverine without the hood, Wolverine with the hood. That's sleeves and no sleeves. You got Iron Man's Infinity War ant version, and you have the endgame version. Colors just change, he soups up the power to take on more solar power, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. Yeah, one is gold, one's a little more red. Yeah, Batfleck has the traditional Dark Knight returns and the traditional Dark Knight Returns iron suit. Like shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

And don't forget, he's got the desert suit where he's wearing like the but that's not in Batman versus Superman.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:13

That's injustice bleak. You're right, you're right. That's unjustibly. Yeah. Fuck! What man, why you let me win this much, man? Dude, I didn't expect it to get to here.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:28

This is tough.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:32

Like, I think if I'm being as yeah, say it. I dare you to say it. I dare you to fucking say it. Say it, Don. I can't, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

I was gonna say as fair as possible. There is no fair, they're all great.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

They are, they're all fucking great. Dead serious, bro. Like, and then you can't go comic accurate because all of them are fucking comic accurate. You can't like and thank God I didn't say what I was gonna say. I was either gonna say, let's let one of them face Black Panther or we pull in a Captain America. Thank God I didn't say that shit. Yeah, this doesn't help at all. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

Oh okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with my gut, okay. I think, and and I gotta use my feelings here. There's one thing that Batman and Wolverine don't have. And what's that? And that was the experience at the theater for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:49

Yes. For you, not me. I saw all three of these bitches in theater, John. Okay. I had a pack Batman vs. Superman. I had a packed Infinity War, plus a packed endgame, and I had a packed Deadman versus Wolverine. It doesn't help me at all, John. Who didn't have I watched all three of these in theaters.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

I didn't get to see, I didn't get to see fucking Wolverine in theaters.

unknown 1:19:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:26

Well, dude, this shit should not take this fucking long. I thought this was gonna be way faster and way easier. By far the longest episode we've ever had, bro. This is so hard, dude. And earnestly, guys, this is not performative.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

No, this is genuine. Bro, there's listen. This shit. There's no wrong answer, honestly. There's not. There's not no wrong answer. But there is like, dude, where do we where do we make the draw where we draw the line in? Legacy helps nobody. Because they've all got it. Yeah. I mean, like, the only person that doesn't have it is Batfleck, but then we're not judging these last three off legacy. It's about comic accurate representation.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:23

Batfleck kills in the movie if you're gonna knock him for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:27

I mean, but he has a reason to. I mean, but we're gonna go. I'm gonna tell you like this. Okay, but I'm asking this. If you go save, if if Superman tells you to go save his fucking mom, and you say I couldn't do it because I would have to kill somebody, would you want to have that conversation? No, not particularly. Okay, then you blow them motherfuckers up. Okay, I'm just saying, you saving Superman's mom. Rule book out the fucking window. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:05

We could go again.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

This wow, this is extremely difficult.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:11

Yes, yes, and it's my fault. I got us here. Yes, apparently. All right, the process elimination. If we had to say who is the most comic accurate, who okay, if we had to say who's the least comic accurate looking, okay, if I personally do that, I'd have to say, I'd have to say Iron Man. Don't want to.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:43

So I was gonna say Iron Man because technically it's not his blood.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:48

Yeah, that's what I say. So we have to say Iron Man comes in bronze. Now this is now we thought we were making it easier. Um, we did not, no, no, and then people could be like, well, Wolverine has the white eyes. Did you not see the iron bat suit? It does have the eyes.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:15

Oh shit. Okay. So then I think we gotta go variance next.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:22

What you mean variants? Like different, so yeah, different versions. So we got I think his suits in bat and Justice League looks fucking amazing. They're not, I think they pay homage to bat suits of the past. You get what I'm saying? Like with the metal pieces and stuff, since he he alters his suits to the I I think that favors Batman more. Because the only thing that you can give Wolverine would be the uh old man Logan. Yeah, and old man Logan from Logan.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

Because everything is very comic accurate.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:01

Yeah, and then but like after that, it's you got the leather suit. That's the last time he really wears a suit outside of a two-piece, or like he's not really wearing any clothes. Yeah, he's just wearing like or you do have you do have the X uh, I can't remember what what number he is. It's not X23, that's the girl. Where he has the fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:23

X24, X24, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:25

Yeah, where he has the fucking thing on his head for being experimented. That is one that we forget about a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:31

Oh yeah, I forgot in the fucking that movie so bad, but it did do that scene.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

It did do that scene justice. But it's not in Wolverine Origins, it's in uh I want to say Days of Future Pass, not Days of Future Pass, is it? No, I'm pretty sure it's in Wolverine Origins, dude. No, it's not. It because they see Logan and Logan runs past them. It's an X-Men movie. I can't remember which one it is. Maybe it is Days of Future Pass, and I'm just I think it's I think it might be Days of Future Pass. But I'll look it up. But but like for Bass for Batfleck to only have to be appeared in three movies, or if you count Suicide Squad, and both of both, you can't say, hey, at least I mean, the only thing you can say is Wolverine and X2 and X1 and Logan and fucking Deadpool and Wolverine. The rest of them are hit or miss. You know what I'm saying? So like I said, like, but then Bathfleck has comic accurate suits.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:37

I was gonna say, like, the thing that I think gives Bathfleck the edge.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:44

I'm gonna tell you what gave him the edge. His suit in the flash. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I mean, that movie's not very good, but like, hey. But his suit is tough in that movie, bro. Not even, I'm talking about being athlete, not even, not even like, dude, when he got the gray and the blue.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:06

The Danny Elfman score plays.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:09

Yeah, the gray and the blue is tough.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:13

Which is fair because I do like I do like the blue on the Batman.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:17

Yeah, the gray and look at this shit. The gray and the blue is tough, bro. Like, I know a lot of people don't like that movie, and I don't blame you. That movie's not very good. But to be fair, Batman is the highlight of all that blue.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:30

Yeah, of that very not good movie, yeah. Yeah, it's just the titty plate that kills it for me. Yeah, but he has to protect himself. That's it. Yeah. Him with the goggles is also very comic accurate. This would be the one I think I gotta give it. He does back.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:53

I'm about to say, and he has that Arkham suit. Look at this shit. Oh, and he's got the yellow utility belt, which is also big. And then the Arkham suit in Justice League, because it's basically the Arkham suit. Yeah, it's the the more slender eyes, and them metal plated, you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say Batman by a very small margin, very small margin.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

Yeah, edge of a razor's edge. Yeah, it's a very small margin. Because the one big knock I've got against Wolverine is it's only got the one movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:36

I mean, yeah, but then even even when you dive into his other movies, he's not dressed like Wolverine.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:42

Yeah, I was gonna say that he doesn't have other Wolverine. Like, there's not like another version for him to bank on.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:53

Like it's not like we were doing look at this and tell me how I can't he lose. Yeah, yeah, Snyder cut, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, and then he looks great in the armor, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:15

So I think it goes to Batman. Yeah, I hate saying it, but I mean, I don't hate saying it, but like hey, they seem I I'm I'm still not really confident. Yeah, it's tough. Guys, y'all let us know what you think. Also, if we were wrong, like if you if you would re-rank this, we're not gonna lie, I don't blame you. I wouldn't blame you, but I'm just saying, like, y'all let us know. Who do you think is the best looking comic book suit in all the movies? And we're gonna revisit this again next year because we got Supergirl coming with Lobo in it. Like, this, and we got Spider-Man new suit coming out this year. It's gonna be best believe we're gonna redo this bracket, and we'll have a song, uh, we'll have 12 next time to make sure we get a we won't mess up the numbers. We're so used to doing tense. But guys, that has been another edition, an extended edition of One Take Real Talk, and it was all in one tape, one shot, keep it real, keep it real, peace, peace.