You've Got a Friend in Us: Toy Story (1995)

Toy Story is one of those movies everyone thinks they remember, until you rewatch it and realize it’s sharper, funnier, and a lot more complicated than you gave it credit for. We go back to 1995 and talk about how Pixar’s first feature became the first fully computer animated film, helped redefine animation, and somehow still holds up even when we start poking at the “toy logic” a little too hard.

We unpack the real engine of the story: Woody’s jealousy when Buzz Lightyear shows up and instantly becomes Andy’s new favorite. That rivalry turns into one of the most relatable friendship arcs in family movies, especially once Buzz hits his identity crisis and Woody has to step up in a way that actually matters. Along the way we get into the best set pieces, from the green army men birthday recon mission to Pizza Planet’s claw machine aliens, plus the stuff that hits differently as an adult, like how fast the toys turn on Woody and how wild Sid’s house still feels.

We also zoom out into Pixar’s bigger legacy, the franchise’s box office track record, and our running debate over whether Toy Story 5 is a lock for a billion dollars. Then we rate Toy Story across plot and writing, acting and casting, production and visuals, music and sound, and cultural impact. There’s even a Malachi Talk mini-segment with a kid’s-eye take on the creepiest moments and the best parts.

If you enjoy movie reviews, Pixar deep dives, and honest nostalgia that still calls out the weird stuff, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review. What’s your score for Toy Story, and did Woody deserve the heat?

Transcript

Welcome And Toy Story Setup

SPEAKER_06 0:29

Hello and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast, the movie podcast where we discuss and review films that are at least a decade old. I'm Omari Williams.

SPEAKER_03 0:41

I'm Jay Richardson.

SPEAKER_06 0:44

A lot of energy today because we are discussing Toy Story, the original 1995 computer animated pioneer film Toy Story. Yeah, come on now.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

You gotta brand me.

SPEAKER_06 1:02

Yes, you do. Yes, we do. I put some stank on it. It's not Oh, that's because that's exactly what that song was missing. Some stank. Randy Newman is rolling around his grave.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

You know what? I thought this man was still alive. I'll be honest.

SPEAKER_06 1:24

No. Oh, I'm pretty sure he is. I just said that.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Oh my god. Why you just kill him off like that?

SPEAKER_06 1:30

I didn't kill him off. I mean, his fricative grave. I don't know. Whatever. Alright. Man, this movie is so iconic. It's so I don't even know how to introduce it.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

He's definitely still alive.

SPEAKER_06 1:43

It does. It does. I know he's alive. I knew he's alive. I was just saying that. Alright. I mean, you you put a stank on his freaking most popular song might kill him off, though. So hey. Oh my gosh. Listen, you know when they say, oh, this person or this whatever doesn't need any introduction. That's that's it with Toy Story. If you don't know Toy Story, well, lucky you, we're about to put you up on some game.

Why Toy Story Matters Historically

SPEAKER_06 2:10

Here's some quick hitters. Notable facts before we get into it. I think this might be common knowledge, I'm not sure, but this is the first entirely computer animated film ever. Right? And this is the first Pixar film. You knew that. Yes, both things, did you?

SPEAKER_02 2:34

I knew it was the first Pixar film. I did not know it was the first complete complete computer generated film at all.

SPEAKER_06 2:41

Oh, well, oh, well, damn. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's it has the accolades for that. There were like some short stories before this, you know. But as far as a feature-length film being totally and entirely computer animated, this this was this was the film to do that. It it set the record for the highest grossing opening film that weekend, and it became the second highest grossing film of 1995. I'm not gonna make you guess, but it was behind Die Hard with a Vengeance. This film was nominated for three Academy Awards original screenplay. This is the first animated film to actually receive this nomination. It was also nominated for the best original song, You've Got a Friend in Me, and then the Best Original Score. So Pixar, everybody knows Pixar to be synonymous with Disney. They said Disney, Disney, Pixar. It's two different studios. Disney owns Pixar now, but that didn't happen until 2006. I am gonna do my best not to make this a Pixar pod because all the stuff behind this is very fascinating. But John Lassiter and Brad Bird and them, when they had left, we talked about under we talked about them on the Fox and the Hound episode, how they left Disney. Well, Pixar, Pixar, well no, we didn't talk about sorry, we talked about Don Blut leaving. But eventually Lassiter and them left as well, and they formed Pixar. It was a subsidiary of Lucasfilms under a different name, and then eventually became its own independent thing, and it did so for several years. They started doing movie releases with Disney. There was some contentious contract things here and there, and then eventually Disney was able to purchase them. Like Disney's trying to do purchase everything in our lives, and now you have Disney Pixar, you know, starting from 2006. So Pixar has made 30 movies and they have earned collectively 17 billion dollars. Nice collectively. That is an average gross of 589 million dollars per film.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

From the way you're talking about, I can tell that you are a big Pixar fan.

SPEAKER_06 5:05

I am. Are you not?

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Pixar is great. Pixar is great.

SPEAKER_06 5:09

Oh no, I am. And that's why I said I'm not gonna make it a Pixar pod because like the whole business thing, like that part excites me as well, in addition to the quality and output of films, you know. And I mean they have to be one of the greatest animation studios ever, just hands down.

Pixar Billion Dollar Sequels Trivia

SPEAKER_06 5:26

Which leads us to our first, our only trivia question of the day. There are five Pixar movies which have grossed over one billion dollars. Can you name those five movies? I will give you hints. I will give you hints. Alright, all five movies are sequels, none of them is the original in the franchise. Okay. The first movie came out in 2010, and then after 2010, 2016, 20. So there's newer-ish kind of movies, like none of the 90s movies, of course, made a billion dollars. Biggest hint uh two of the movies are sequels in this franchise that we're discussing. So that's a give me, but you still gotta guess which two. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

I guess toy story four.

SPEAKER_06 6:23

That's correct. Yeah, they the days gave it gave it away, yeah. So Toy Story Three and Toy Story Four both gross over a billion dollars. The other three movies, again, there are sequels. One one of the movies has deals with underwater life. That's correct. And one is an action movie with a base with a family. Yep, and then the last one came out in 2024. Yeah. This one a very interesting concept dealing with emotions. Oh wow, okay, yeah. You said ah, and then you went quiet. Oh my god. Inside out too. I was like, uh I almost said emotions, but I was like, that's not right. Yeah. Yeah, so those five movies, and those are numbered in some of the highest grossing movies ever. Actually, 13 of Pixar's films are in the 50 highest grossing animated films of all time. Very successful studio, and it all started with this film right here, Toy Story.

Favorite Pixar Movies And Money Talk

SPEAKER_03 7:47

You know what Pixar movie really got me? And I think it might have been a combination. The timing was released. But I love like I loved Soul. Like, oh my god. Yeah, it got released right in the middle of just when uh I think that was a pandemic movie, right? Just when COVID hit, so everybody's inside. Like, it just I I absolutely love that movie. But I guess it didn't make as much money. But well, you couldn't go outside to buy anything.

SPEAKER_06 8:17

It had no chance, yeah. That was straight to yeah, so it made 122 million worldwide against uh a 150 million dollar budget, so that's that's terrible. Yeah, but it it it went directly to Disney Plus, you know. So that's not the movie's fault. That is a really good movie, yeah. It's a such a good movie, and like the whole concept of like being in the zone, like I really liked how they displayed that, you know?

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah, yeah, no, I like it. Yeah, but yeah, I don't yeah, I didn't have a chance with the yeah, it went straight to Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

So, you know, how do you pay for it? As long as you already fan Disney Plus, you don't have to pay for anything. So yeah, that's a little difficult. I'm sure if it was like uh an actual release, it probably would have done much better, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_06 9:00

I I think so. I think so. Is there any movie? Which movie? Oh, sorry. Sorry, you go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 9:07

I was gonna add, is there is there another Pixar movie like not in your top not in the top five that you don't you really enjoy?

SPEAKER_06 9:15

Coco. Coco really hit hard. That's a good movie. It's a really good movie. I really enjoyed that. Music. I mean, Pixar always usually does really well with their music and their films, but the story was good. The visual it that was a really really heartwarming story. I really like Coco. I've been meaning to re-watch Coco actually, just watch it with Malachi. You must sit him down and watch it because that's that's a good one, that's a fun one.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:42

Okay, cool.

Plot Basics And Toy Cast Roll Call

SPEAKER_06 9:43

So Toy Story is classic story.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

We have Is it a classic story?

SPEAKER_06 9:50

It's become a modern day classic.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 9:54

Yeah, yeah. So we have no, it's actually a very original story, which is why it was so goddamn amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Classic story, you know, toys come to life. I'm like, oh nutcracker? Like, yeah, I was like, oh no, duh.

SPEAKER_06 10:09

Yeah, so very original story. So the concept of the movie for for any small child that hasn't seen this, or any adult that's just not into I don't know, cartoons or animated shows. You have a group of toys, and there's the I don't know what to call Andy, their kid. I almost said like their owner. That's it, just sounds too like slavy, slavey, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

He always sounds like that. Anyway, that's his toys.

SPEAKER_06 10:42

So you have a bunch of toys that are played with by this boy, Andy, and the toys' whole thing is you know, keeping Andy happy and you know, doing their toy duties. The movie kicks off with Andy's birthday approaching. Actually, his yeah, his birthday was approaching. There's a birthday party about to happen, and a new toy enters the mix that has all the toys just kind of nervous, particularly our main toy, Woody, voiced by Tom Hanks, and then Buzz Lightyear is voiced by Tim Allen. The cast is actually pretty big for this movie. All the characters that you have, like there's uh Mr. Potato Head, Slinky Dog, Rex, uh, literally Tyrannosaurus Rex. There's a Piggy Bank, his name is Ham, Bo Peep, uh, a Purcelling doll, and there's plenty of plenty of toys. It's a huge cast. But our stars are Tom Hanks and Tim Allen. The movie starts off with Andy playing with Woody, and you're just seeing the draw, you've seen how much fun he's having. He he has Mr. Potato Head set up as the villain, and he does as kids do, you know, just playing out, acting out a scene, and just having the most fun.

Toy Logic Problems And Andy Chaos

SPEAKER_03 11:53

Andy is a dick voice. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 11:59

Here comes the cynicism. I'm sorry. What was the first dick move that Andy did? Tell me.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

The first dick move?

SPEAKER_06 12:07

Yeah. That made you say, well, Andy's addicted toys. What what what happened?

SPEAKER_03 12:12

That entire opening sequence when he's playing with them. Like, he uh he throws, especially to Woody. He throws Woody on the car, smashes him into a building, he knocks off like every piece of the potato head, which I mean it's intense to do that, so fine, whatever. Then he like slides Woody down like the banister, like flings him in the air. Then there's this projectile type. I don't know how his chair is that like springy. Like he just flings him in the air. I'm like, damn. I don't think it is. I'm like, okay, Woody is supposedly alive. Does he feel this? Like, what is the what's the limit here?

SPEAKER_06 12:53

Yeah, so that is something that is inconsistent, like what their pain tolerance and stuff is. Because later on, when he gets like burnt from the the magnifying glass, he felt that shit reacts as if he's getting burnt.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Right.

SPEAKER_06 13:09

But and then another inconsistency that I actually I didn't know that, but what I noted was his strength is inconsistent. Because there's there's times where he can move shit, and there's other times where he's like, Oh, I'm just a helpless toy, I really can't push this thing. So I'm like, dude, like how strong is he? Is this like a situation where like an ant has the strength of 10 men or something? Like if they were human size, or like what is going on here? Yeah, but it doesn't scale well. It's like all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Especially, I think the almost the last scene when he has to pop up the damn back of the moving truck. I'm like, first of all, I've had to lift those before. That's just heavy.

SPEAKER_06 13:45

I think that's when I wrote it. That's when I wrote make my note. I was like, okay, just I'm just throwing this out the window. Like at certain times, Woody has a strength of 10 men, and other times he is, you know, useless. I don't know. But yeah, that opening that door, yeah, those things are not easy to operate. Not at all.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

The laugh by itself and then pulling it up. Like, come on, bro. That was like alright. And he's addicted to toys, but otherwise, well, okay, he's a young child.

SPEAKER_06 14:14

So, how did you play with your toys? Oh my, oh my, oh my gosh. Okay, we're gonna just move along from there, keep the mood up. Everyone's having fun, we're having a great time, guys. Yes. So after Andy leaves, the toys come to life, and the magic begins, and we're like, oh shit, what is happening, right? So Woody's clearly the alpha of the toys. He's the one in charge, he's a sheriff, you know. We get a good scene where we get his personality, and I don't know, like I thought it was supposed to like let us know the affection and respect that all the toys have for him. They turned on Woody.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

But oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 15:03

For some dude, they don't even know, they don't know Buzz from Adam, and they were done with Woody.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

But I mean, I mean, they did watch him push him out the window.

SPEAKER_06 15:13

So I mean they thought they thought he killed him. Yeah, so I guess their sense of justice is very high, like their moral compass.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

They don't give a shit who you were. They're like, Oh, you kill a toy, you're out of here. Like, okay.

SPEAKER_06 15:26

Yeah, but I I got annoyed with them at the end when Woody was trying to save Buzz with RC, and they're like, get him out of here. I'm like, can you guys settle down, please? Like, we're in the middle of something. Yeah, but so the we have the questionable loyalty of the toys. As a movie starts, though, we get one of the greatest just songs in animated film history, and we get the needle drop of You Got a Friend and Me by the great who's still alive, Randy Newman.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

I'm pretty sure he's really impressed right now for Toy Stories 5 playing You Got a Friend Me.

SPEAKER_06 16:04

You know who's doing press for that? Taylor Swift. Yeah, apparently she did a song.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:08

Did you listen to it?

SPEAKER_03 16:09

I I didn't see, I didn't hear her new song, but I saw him and her playing together.

SPEAKER_06 16:16

Okay. Yeah, so I listened to it because on Disney Plus is also at, you know, they're pushing marketing for it as well. And I listened to it before we started Toy Story, and by the time the song was finished, I already forgot the song.

SPEAKER_04 16:30

Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_06 16:31

Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm like, I this is not I'm I mean, I know I'm not supposed to compare it, but I don't know. It's Taylor Swift, though, but I don't listen to Taylor Swift. I shouldn't have said that out loud. Oops. There goes our four followers. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

I mean, no, having Taylor Swift attached to the movie is obviously good marketing because Taylor Swift's fan base is you know pretty keen up a certain colour. They didn't need that though. They didn't need it. No, they didn't need it. But you know people are gonna go just because of that, so I could see it. So like, but like for us, like us at our age, if someone was like, oh, Randy Newman's playing the song, we'd be like, who? Like, but the song by itself carried itself where we're still like singing it or whatever, so for sure.

SPEAKER_06 17:30

For sure. We weren't like riding for Randy Newman in '95 or '96.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

We gotta go stick, like, like no, that's not what happened.

SPEAKER_06 17:39

We get introduced to all the characters, the toys, their personalities, and everything. To me, we get an awesome scene. Well, before we get to the awesome scene, right? A couple things right out the gate. One, I forgot how rude Potato Head is. Oh my god. He's rude as hell. Listen to me. Potato Head called, he called Ham an uncultural swine. I say that all the time. I did not remember that this is what movie it came from. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_03 18:07

Yes, I know you say it all the time. No, I did not know that's what you guys know. I feel like other people I feel like it comes from other places too, but I could see.

SPEAKER_06 18:16

Before 95. I mean, this came on in 95. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm five years old. Like, this is I don't know what came before that. But yeah, Potato Head, there's a gesture when Potato Head takes his lips off and puts it on his butt, telling him to kiss his ass. I'm like, what is going on here?

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Well, he didn't tell him. He's Slinky's like, Slinky's saying, because I think Woody's trying to talk. Okay, he and Slinky's like saying, like, Woody's like awesome. So he calls so he puts his lips in his ass to call him a kiss ass.

SPEAKER_06 18:46

Oh, he called him a kiss ass. Okay, that's still pretty rude.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

Yeah. I have a list of all the insults in the in the movie, but I'll I'll wait a little bit before I drop that.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Okay.

Birthday Recon And Buzz Arrives

SPEAKER_06 18:57

So there's a big realization, there's a birthday party happening today. Woody thought was happening later, it's happening today. We gotta get into action. The the green army men, toy soldiers, the bucket of uh soldiers, they kick in the gear, and we have what is one of the coolest scenes of the movie when the soldiers mobilize and make their way downstairs to go and hide in the plant to relay with the walkie-talkie to the toys upstairs what they're seeing. So the soldiers are able to get into position and you know they they call all the toys or all the gifts, and it's like a board game, it's a lunchbox.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

Didn't somebody give them um bench feats? Why did they give a lunch game? Yeah, no, I don't know how it looks like.

SPEAKER_06 19:45

Did you hear one of the toys say who invited them? Did you hear that?

SPEAKER_03 19:48

I think I got it.

SPEAKER_06 19:50

Yeah, it was like chatter in the background. I I thought it was funny. So they're like, Alright, this is a rap. They cut the walkie, right? And when the mom came out with the surprise gift, right, and the soldier was like, get the thing back on. Like, I I got so hyped because he's like, like the franticness in his voice, and you know, they're telling him that yo, there's a surprise toy, like something big is coming. And that's when we get our reveal of the Space Ranger himself, Mr. Buzz Lightyear. Speaking of Andy being an asshole, he straight up just cleared Woody off the bed.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

He did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:29

He really did. I thought it was a different kid, but Woody kind of admitted that it was Andy that did that to him. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

Yeah, because he rolled in once they cleared the bedroom, they came in. Once they cleared the bedroom, you know, they just toys come to life again. They're like, oh, where's Woody? Woody's like under the bed. First of all, how do you get under the bed? Like, even if you swipe, yeah. Like, how would you get under? But okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 20:52

He had to he had to crawl under the bed once he hit the floor. That's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Maybe. I don't know if you stayed up there. Why? I don't know. Yeah, I'd have just stayed where he landed. Like, okay. I don't know, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

But yeah, so he's up, so he learns, he's under the bed, and the kids, uh, the other toys are like, where's Woody at? Woody pops out, he looks disheveled, all to the sauce on the side. Like, oh. Like, oh, he's been displaced, huh? The kids the the toys already start rubbing it in. Like, they didn't even have no kind of compassion at all. Especially since they were all like concerned about being replaced themselves.

SPEAKER_06 21:24

So it's like exactly. So why were they even concerned to begin with? I guess I don't know. Yeah, maybe they were concerned for Woody or something. I don't know. But then they seem to kind of relish the fact that Woody wasn't in charge anymore. That's why, like, the whole like hierarchy in there, it seems like it was pretty tenuous. Like, yeah, it's just whatever new toy comes in, if Andy says this is toy number one, that's who we follow. You need to fall in line. And Woody was not about that life. Quick note that I forgot to mention I forgot how horny Bo Peep was.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

She was on it, she was ready to get. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

I don't know what. I don't know what Bopete like Anuendo I was trying to say, but she cheered is all I got. I didn't know what to say. She shared is what I got.

SPEAKER_06 22:17

Sure. Okay. Hey man. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

But oh my god. Like again, I love watching these movies, these chill quote unquote children movies as an adult because there's so many things that you see and you're like, ha ha. Like I I feel like I was laughing a lot more now than I was as a kid. Like I think I was just enjoying the visuals and the lights like an idiot. But now I'm actually like understanding and like I don't watch her story the other day. I don't know if I was not paying attention or whatever, but this time I actually watched it and paying attention. And she was like, she says something like I think I was supposed to write it down, but I was just enjoying the movie, so I forgot. But she said something like Meet Me by the Building Blocks or something, and there was like literal Too Woody. Was it Woody? Yeah, too Woody, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

She said something something leading to the blocks, but there's literal building blocks. It's like, ah, ah, those blocks. Life kind of was weird.

SPEAKER_06 23:16

Listen, the it wasn't even subtle though. The bull peep stuff. It was so on the nose. I'm like, what the f like I did not, I know I didn't pick that up as a kid, but damn.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

I mean, I think we picked up on it, but we didn't understand. It was like sex. It was not like, ah, they have a little crush, bro. Kissy. Oh, kissy kissy.

SPEAKER_06 23:34

Yeah, yes. We knew that much. Yeah. No, bull people's trying to fuck 100%.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Yeah, she was alright. Which is that word? You know what? I don't even care.

SPEAKER_06 23:42

Let's not even go there. Let's not even go there.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

You know something else that bothers me about this scene before we move on? Again, the inconsistency with like the toys and what works and what doesn't. So when the army men are like reporting, they're using binoculars. But if their binoculars are blocked off. So I'm like, what the fuck are they seeing through there? Because it's like, it's a plastic, it's not like a hole. Oh, okay. It's a blocked-off binocular. So how are they seeing through it? And if those work, then why doesn't Buzz Lightyear's laser work?

SPEAKER_06 24:19

Jesus. Alright. I was about to explain the binocular thing, and you just, you just Oh, okay, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Cut me off. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 24:25

Cut me off at my legs. I have no, I don't, I I don't, I don't, I don't have an answer for you for that one. Okay. I don't know. Maybe. No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Listen to me, right? What I will not do, what I will not make time for, what I will not stand for, is for us to scrutinize and disparage the toy logic. Okay?

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Okay. That's what we do at real talk and banter.

SPEAKER_06 25:00

I mean, it's been done, it's been said, we're all aware of the things. The biggest thing, why does Buzz freeze if he doesn't believe he's a toy? I know you're coming with it. I know you're coming with it. And you know what? I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Okay. Fair.

SPEAKER_06 25:17

I don't, I don't. I mean, you can still bring it up. I'm not silencing you. But I don't know. It just. Well, you know, so there was another thing where so when the scene moves up, so they they meet and there's the whole shenanigans, right? There's one point when Woody and Buzz are arguing, and Woody like accidentally opens Buzz's helmet and he starts freaking out. And I'm like, you telling me in the week that that Andy's been playing with Buzz, he hasn't opened the helmet once. I thought that was kind of weird.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

It was weird. You know he has. You know he's got that thing open.

SPEAKER_06 25:54

Yeah, he had to have. And then another thing, right? In the so the the movie gives us clear timelines for what's happening, which I love timelines, guys, right? So the party's happening as the movie starts. They're moving in one week. Now, we get a montage of Andy playing with Buzz in what seems like several months, but it's one week because that's that's what it said. In that one week of time, Andy redecorates his fucking room, replaces all his posters, his cowboy posters, changes his bed sheets just to pack them up like a day or two later when they move. I, for the life of me, that bothered me. I could not understand that. I was like, this makes no sense. Yeah, and the mom's aren't very good. No, you're gonna we will set up your new shit at the new house when we make it there. Yeah, we're not doing that for four or five days. Absolutely not. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

So I mean, is this like well, it is summer because they uh when Sid when Sid enters, they're like, oh, he must be back from summer camp. So it is summertime.

SPEAKER_06 27:06

From summer camp, yeah, it's summertime. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So I guess late summer. Well, no, it could be mid, I think it's mid summer because they said back from summer camp early. Like he got kicked out. Yeah, he definitely got kicked out.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Sid needs to be in a prison somewhere, to be very honest.

SPEAKER_06 27:20

Oh, that's interesting. I was wondering if you were gonna be a Sid apologist on the pod here.

SPEAKER_04 27:26

No, no.

SPEAKER_06 27:26

Because I I have a note here about Sid. Well, we're gonna get to Sid in a minute, right?

Woody’s Plan Backfires Badly

SPEAKER_06 27:31

After to post party, we just get the montage of Andy playing. He's like, fuck Woody, I'm all but buzz now. And then now we have the Pizza Planet set where Andy's about to go to Pizza Planet, you know, with his mom for a party, or they're hanging. They did a lot in this week. I'm like, you guys, you guys need to be packing up and focusing on moving. So much happened in this week since the party. Big dog, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Big dog. Big dog. What? Listen, when I know I'm skipping all over the place, but when Woody popped the freaking truck open and we looked in the back, and there was like three boxes back there. I was like, what's not a lot of stuff?

SPEAKER_06 28:12

First of all, first of all, you do not need what was a 30-foot truck? Like you do not need that size truck.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Like moving truck. Woody pops it open, and there's three boxes in there, and two of them are Andy's toys. It's like Toys? There's some shit. I swear to God, I was so pissed off. That's what that's what it is. That's what it went back in because they literally didn't have shit apparently.

SPEAKER_06 28:38

They did not move anything. I guess the furniture came with that.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Maybe there's a free furniture. Okay, we can do that. Sure.

SPEAKER_06 28:46

Maybe. I guess, but then why spend the money on that big ass box truck? I don't know. You just need like a pickup. They just needed a pickup truck for the stuff they had. They could just throw those boxes in the in the bed and that was it.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Shit, mail it at that point. Shit.

SPEAKER_06 29:01

Yeah, that too. Yeah. Which I don't think I think they were just like moving like down the block, or not down the block, but they weren't leaving like the state, you know?

SPEAKER_03 29:12

So yeah, it's always anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So I think they were just going to. She said uh they were just gonna get pizza. And I guess this pizza parlor place also has like a video game set up, you know, kind of like a fun little kid hangout thing.

SPEAKER_06 29:28

It's lit. It's lit. I remember being like as a kid, like, yo, Pizza Planet looks amazing. Like I wish I wish we had a Pizza Planet. So right before this all happens, though, Woody is still plotting how to get back in Andy's well to become Andy's top toy. And he his initial plan, because he overhears that Andy is allowed to bring one toy. So Woody was trying to trap Buzz behind a dresser so that Andy couldn't find him. And instead, a series of unfortunate events happen and Buzz gets knocked out of the window. When that happens, the toys catch on and they accuse Woody of intentionally knocking Buzz out the window and essentially to start calling him like a murderer and whatnot, and they immediately turn on Woody. And all loyalty was gone. They were like, yeah, no, like you're not, we don't, we don't ride with that. That's not cool. Did you catch how devious Woody looked when he was making his plan?

SPEAKER_01 30:38

No. I didn't catch that.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

Yeah. It was real sinister. Yeah, when he was like trying to figure out, okay, what I'm gonna do here.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

I think I still don't see how the plan is gonna work regardless.

SPEAKER_06 30:51

Even if he did travel behind a dresser, like when he just like crawled out under, like not quick enough because Woody, not Woody, but Andy was on his way up, so it would have just bought him time so that Andy would have just had to grab Woody that's the first toy he's seen, you know? So it would have worked. Buzz wouldn't have built to get up right away.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Okay. Um Andy, Andy's mom, and Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_06 31:25

I know what you're about to say. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Nah, tell me what I'm about to say. No. What am I about to say?

SPEAKER_06 31:32

Are you about to talk about their situational awareness?

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Situational awareness. I mean, in a sense.

SPEAKER_06 31:41

Like their intelligence or whatever?

SPEAKER_03 31:43

No, no, no, not intelligent.

SPEAKER_06 31:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

I guess in a sense, but I'm just gonna keep going and then you can talk about what you're gonna talk about. My thing is, I assume that my place is haunted. Because there's no way these toys are going back into the exact same spot that I left them every single time. They're not they're all over the place. Like when we have the the hazard of Annie going through the opening scene where he's like knocking everything over, emptying the pig. What's the pig's name? Is it just Ham? Ham. Emptying it Ham, which is a piggy bank out. When they like get themselves together, they like put themselves back together. So I'm like, are they throwing themselves back apart every time he shows up? And no, they're not. So does he just think he must you know what's happening? His mom must think it's him, and he must think it's his mom. And they're just like, oh, I guess I couldn't.

SPEAKER_06 32:38

That could be it. And but and that's believable because first of all, Sandy's not that young. He's what he's got a like 10 or something, right? So old enough to have a little more awareness, but man, kids, they're not paying attention to shit, man. They don't remember that they left their toy on the table and not on the floor, or on the floor, not on the table. I would definitely remember that.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

Like, I'd be like, I know Chuppy, I'm like, nah, my shit is haunted. Get the shit out of here.

SPEAKER_06 33:08

Yeah, I feel like your toys would know that about you then, and they would be, they will work extra hard to go back exactly where you are. I think they know Andy is not the brightest bulb. You know, like he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's not so they're like, because they they attempted at the very first time to be like places places as in to like resume where you were before, but it later on as the movie progresses, nah, they just stopping in place. Wherever they are, they just dropped.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Andy's coming dropped. I'm like, what the fuck? You were not there before.

SPEAKER_06 33:42

For for but I agree with the whole like haunted thing because Buzz goes missing, and then Woody goes missing, and like he doesn't even notice that Woody's missing until like after the fact. And then when the movie ends and Buzz and Woody just show up, oh and he's like, Oh, they were here all along. No, no, they weren't. Yeah, they were not sitting on top of the box that's right next to you in your eye line the entire time. What are you talking about? And his mom, she's gotta be drunk. Like, I mean, like, she's like self-medicated. She's gotta be self-medicated. She's a single mom, she has two kids, she's doing a move, she's stressed out. When Andy said, Oh, they're here all along, she's like, Oh, yeah, I I know I told you they'll turn up. She didn't give a fuck. Yeah, she really did. She had already moved on.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:30

100% she moved on. Yeah, so that's tough. So Andy does take Woody on his on his way to to Pizza Planet. Buzz hijacks a ride with the, you know, he sees Andy leaving, Woody and Andy leaving. So he hijacks a ride, and then they confront each other, and then they both get left behind at a gas station at a truck stop.

Pizza Planet Aliens And Sid Kidnaps

SPEAKER_06 34:55

So we're at Pizza Planet, right? And Woody convinces Buzz to play ball. They have a ride on a spaceship, which was the Pizza Planet truck. Buzz and Woody make it to Pizza Planet, and that's where we meet one of the more iconic members of the franchise, the little green aliens.

unknown 35:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

I thought you were Sid. I was like, what?

SPEAKER_06 35:17

Oh, no. Yeah, Sid comes up next. Buzz gets stuck in the claw machine where the where the Green Aliens are. Sid goes, pulls out a Green Alien, and is able to get a two-for-one. He pulls out Buzz and Woody and takes them home to terrorize them. Let's talk about Sid.

SPEAKER_03 35:40

It's like the Green Aliens made me laugh so bad. Because so you didn't mention that before he grabbed him, like he was able to, Woody was able to hold on to Buzz and was trying to like pull him. And eventually the clock probably released because it's like probably like a little bit of a touch and like, oh it jammed. So it probably would have released. But the freaking green aliens are like, no, he's chosen, and starts like they suck just too bad. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 36:10

Because they they they have one existence, which is to wait there to be chosen by this claw. And it's like if Buzz could have sneak in there, you guys can just leave, right? And they're just sitting there in the middle of the night, just like their whole their whole existence is to wait to be chosen by the claw. And who are you to get in the way of that? So yeah, well, they're chosen all right. The green alien is immediately decimated by Scud. Scud is his name, the dog?

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Yeah. Actually, I don't know what it is, but yeah, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_06 36:45

Yeah. Listen, man, like I don't we don't have to go into exactly like detail like Sid's thing. We can just talk about Sid in general. Look, Cid apologists are nuts. That boy is a terror. Like people like to say, oh, Cid was just his creative mind that was just playing with his toys, and then the toys terrorize him and scard him for life. Nah, man. In the opening scene, he immediately starts to pick on his sister. He steals her toy, he destroys her toy. Sid is a monster, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_03 37:20

Yeah, I don't know. Oh my god. So as I was watching it, not only is Sid an asshole to his everybody else around him, but he's also an asshole to his own toys. And he has these like weird contractions. So I I thought, and again, it plays into the whole like I must have ghosts, because apparently I thought that Sid, and maybe he is, maybe he is, I don't know. I I I'm kinda iffy about it, but I thought that Sid was putting the toys together in these weird ways. But then when I saw how they fixed up Buzz, I was like, maybe they're like fixing themselves with like parts that they could find, and that's how they end up with these like weird combinations of toys.

SPEAKER_06 38:06

No, I no, I think Sid is doing that. I think they were able to fix Buzz because his parts were still there. And they fixed the the doll because the parts were still there. I think when Sid mixed and matches, he like destroys. There's not there's just remains left, you know? So I just don't think they're able to like fix themselves because there's nothing else, you know, for them to go back to. What really freaked me out about Sid's toys this time around, I mean, as a kid, like that baby man with the spider legs, definitely creepy as hell. But as an adult now, I'm like, why don't any of Sid's toys talk? That was so eerie and unnerving for me. I was like, what the hell? Like they don't even speak. Like all these toys speak. The freaking like we've seen all these toys, all of them are speaking, and none of these speak? I don't know. That was weird. I was like, what did this like he just traumatized these toys?

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Yeah, he did. The other thing I thought is exactly what Woody's plan was. I was like, like, obviously, Sid is a bully to things that cannot protect themselves. So okay. Just freak him out. I would have like already turned on a long time ago. Like, listen, man, stop fucking trying to kill us. And like watch him freak out and like, all right, get away from us. Like, what are you doing? Stop messing with toys.

SPEAKER_06 39:31

Oh, so you're saying that Woody had too much buildup to that?

SPEAKER_01 39:35

No, I'm saying I would have done if I was like six toys, I would have done that a long time ago.

SPEAKER_06 39:40

Just turning him one time. Yeah. I don't I don't think. So that's interesting, right? I I think there's some type of code or something. Like they're not supposed to. I Rudy Wood uh Rudy. Woody broke, like I feel like Woody broke some type of sacred law in revealing himself to someone. He didn't blow up. Yeah, I think. So fuck it. No, well, he didn't, but you don't know that you're not gonna blow up. Like you just know you're not supposed to be seen by humans. Like you're not, you're not supposed to do that. And I feel like I feel like that that was done to like help put Woody in this like liberator kind of mode. Because on rewatches of this movie, Woody doesn't exactly look like the best protagonist of the movie. Like he's he's jealous, he's he's insecure, he's you know, he's mean. So when he like befriends these toys or realizes that you know they they're not a threat and you know it's okay, I think that that moment was him becoming like a savor to help out these toys. And he so he broke that one golden rule, which is do not let humans see you move or talk. So I I think that's why.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

Okay. And then what about him, Buzz, and RC flying down the street, down a neighborhood?

SPEAKER_06 41:01

Oh. What about it? You mean like you don't know if you if you're driving in a car and you see a race car driving with two toys on it, you don't know that some kid isn't nearby operating that car. As you see it, you as you see it, you're gone. You don't have enough time to investigate. You were driving a vehicle.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

Well, why was RC going like 40 miles an hour? How is that possible? That's a good without the fucking rocket going like 40 miles an hour. Like, stop it.

SPEAKER_06 41:35

My thing is, can RC drive without the remote control or not? That was also inconsistent for me. I like stare himself and whatnot. Like, what does he need the remote control or is he good without it? You know, that was not clear to me as well. I don't even know. Like, so Sid, so Sid was trying to blow up Buzz. Where did Sid get this rocket from? Did his mom buy that for him? Did he steal her credit card? Or like what happened here? What do you think happened?

SPEAKER_03 42:08

He had to, and you know what? I think I think she was like, oh, what's that? And he was like, not their mom, or something like that. So maybe he does like just like steal her card or you know, or says, Hey, this is a toy, and she just like, yeah, sure, whatever, not realizing it's like a military grid rocket for some reason that you could just buy on the internet. I mean, it was the nineties in which you know, yeah, yeah. You could you could get anything in the 90s on the internet, like you know, it was very easy to just get things. Like, I don't know how we're not all really messed up from the things that you could look at and do on the internet in the 90s, because it was really bad.

SPEAKER_06 42:49

Anyway, yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, for sure. So the toys don't know that Woody and Buzz have rekindled, they're like best friends now, and Woody's trying to save Buzz, and these toys are not with it. They want nothing to do with the guy, and they throw him out of the truck.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

I could understand, like, we're just gonna ostracize you because I mean, for five years or something, you have been our leader or whatever. Yeah, so I think I'm just gonna like we're gonna ostracize you, not talk to you, trying to give you the cool shoulder. But to literally throw him out the truck, was just throw him out and move into it. Insane, like insane crowd mentality for them to just take on. And it's all like egged on by put Mr. Potato Head. Like, he was yeah, he was bout in.

SPEAKER_06 43:33

He is he's an anarchist. Him and him are they are the worst. They are not, those are not your friends. They are not. Oh my gosh. They're there for the drama. That's all they're there for. Chaos and drama.

Buzz’s Identity Crash And Friendship

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Okay, you know what? Just immediately losing sense of self.

SPEAKER_06 43:53

I know. Having an existential crisis.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

Oh my god. Again, this is like a 10-minute scenario of it, like

SPEAKER_06 44:01

I know the deep end quickly. We focus just on Cid, but yeah, a lot more happened in Stid's house than just Cid terrorizing the toys. So Buzz finally comes to realization that he is not a Space Ranger. He is in fact just a toy. Because when they were trying to escape, they got separated when Scud was chasing them. And Buzz hid in a room where I think Stid's dad or someone was watching TV and a Buzz Lightyear commercial came on. And that shit just broke him. And when he saw the toy and the first of all, that was a terrible commercial.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

Yeah, I wouldn't buy that shit. It looks stupid. Want that. Stupid. That is not a toy I want.

SPEAKER_06 44:48

I just I just think it was poorly shot, man. Like those kids, like, pew, pew, pew. Like the kids in the commercial is what ruined the commercial. They could have done a better job.

SPEAKER_03 44:57

They make me want to get it. I wouldn't buy it.

SPEAKER_06 44:59

Um well Buzz decided to test out because he saw an open window. He climbed up the banister and he decided to try. This is not funny. This is so tragic. He tries to fly out the window. And my guy immediately thwarted by gravity and loses his damn arm in the process. That's not that is not funny, man. Um, I do not remember Sid's sister's name, but she found Buzz and she goes to do tea time with him. So somehow, how did Woody escape the closet that he locked himself in?

SPEAKER_03 45:42

Ooh, great question.

SPEAKER_06 45:45

That was bothering me because when he shut the door, I was like, wait, how is he gonna get out of there?

SPEAKER_03 45:50

I guess he can open doorknobs. I mean, if freaking the left director can, so sure.

SPEAKER_06 45:56

The doorknob is like freaking like the equivalent of like a 30 feet like thing for us. Like, how would he reach that? I don't know. Well, anyway, we find it.

SPEAKER_03 46:07

Maybe he squeezed underneath the door. Maybe he's like a rat? He's funny enough.

SPEAKER_06 46:12

With a collapsible fucking spine? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 46:16

I don't even know what he's made of, but not all of him.

SPEAKER_06 46:18

His head is hard plastic.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Okay, so he just like you know. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 46:25

Okay, that's not what happened. Okay, that's not what it is. What was more plausible?

SPEAKER_03 46:29

He squeezed under the door or he opened the freaking doorknob.

SPEAKER_06 46:32

Him opening the doorknob is more plausible than him squeezing under it. I'm sorry. But okay, moving on. It just is. Like he like knocked over a broom and then he like shimmered. No, there's a fucking broom in there.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 46:42

It was a broom closet. It was like a broom closet.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

My broom closet does not have a broom in it. I swear to God. It has everything but every broom is like in the hall. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 46:55

Holy shit. Yeah, so Buzz has an identity crisis where he briefly believes he is Mrs. Templeton. I don't remember what it was called. But he completely crashes out and he just doesn't know, he has no sense of self. And Woody has to coach him up and bring him back to reality. So this is actually where the heart of the movie is, right? And so sorry for glossing over this because this is actually a big turning point in the film in Buzz and Woody's relationship, their friendship. Which this is what allows them to make more movies after this one. Yeah. You know? And Woody Woody actually gets trapped. Well, he makes a failed attempt to communicate across because Sid and Andy's houses, their neighbors, he tries to communicate with other toys. That goes terribly because they see Buzz's severed arm, and that's that's when they start calling him. That's when they called him a murderer. Yeah. Yeah. That's they were like, nah, we're done with this guy. This guy's off the deep end.

SPEAKER_03 48:10

You're right. They did kind of still like, oh, it's Woody, it's Woody.

SPEAKER_06 48:16

That was just that was just Slink, Slinky. Like, yeah. He he was the only people that were still really pro Woody, I would say, was Slinky and Bolt Peep. Yeah. I think like Rex may have been neutral. And then like most of the toys were like, nah, man, this guy is moving real sus, you know? And then when they saw that arm, they was like, whoa, Woody's gone off the deep end. He's done.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

It was like why would he hiding nothing? And then bring out the freaking arm.

90s Insults And Why It Hits

SPEAKER_06 48:53

Do you want me to tell you all the times Woody insulted Buzz in this?

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Before we do that.

SPEAKER_06 49:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

One of the reasons that Woody and Buzz relationship slash friendship is so relatable is because we see all the time with like children, adults, all whatever. Like you get a new person in the group, a new person in the area, you have the insecurity, you try to feel each other out. You're like, I don't have this person, I don't know this person. Especially if they're quote unquote better than you, right? Because Woody is an older toy. So he doesn't, you know, he has a little voice box that says, There's a snake in my boom. And I'm like, what the fuck? Get the snake out. That's dumb. Dumb catchphrase. You know, it's on the TV show, but it's like I love that Woody's roundup.

SPEAKER_06 49:40

I love that line so much, but yeah, it is completely silly and dangerous. Yeah. Because it's most likely a rattlesnake. You saw a dead.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Get that snake out of there. That's kind of weird. But yeah, but you know, Buzz has more action type things with his uh his uh wings or you know, glide gliders or whatever you want to call them, you know, his little space shoots, pelvic thing moves, his little light thing, and then he also well his laser beam, and then he also speaks, you know, too. It's a really good thing. So yeah, I think most people be like kind of like what's the moment in our friend group where I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah, Buzz and Woody, they figure it out. They realize that Buzz realizes that you know he doesn't have to be a space ranger to actually have value, he's a value by a toy, you know. He would he got Mark Zandies plaything now.

SPEAKER_04 50:31

So it means something.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

It means something. So yeah, so Woody have to remind him of that. Would Buzz have to remind Woody that you know he doesn't have to be the awful dog as far as always, he didn't have to be the leader necessarily. I mean, no, that's not right. He's still a leader, even if he's not the new thing. Yeah, like he's still a person that people look up to, and even though they did turn on him pretty quickly, you know, he's the you know, he's the leader.

SPEAKER_06 51:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

So I think it just shows that, you know, eventually a person that you might see as a rival for various reasons, misunderstanding, or whatever, kind of basically became become your closest like ally and friend, and they they showed that. So but aside from that, tell me all the reasons. No, tell me all the ways in which Woody insults us.

SPEAKER_06 51:28

Yeah, no, it's tough, man. This this show, this movie is rude as hell. It really is. Just Woody alone, he disrespected Buzz twice by calling him the wrong name. First, he called him Mr. Light Bear. Then he said, Listen, Mr. Light Snack. He called Buzz an idiot four times. Once he said, he called just called him an idiot, you're an idiot. Then he said, Shut up, you idiot, later on. Then when they were jumping into the pizza panic car, he said, What an idiot. And then he said, You idiot, you're a toy, use your karate chop action when they were about to get swarmed by Sid's toys. Overall, the word idiot was said five times in this movie. The fifth time was Mr. Potato Head. Yeah, was Mr. Potato Head calling somebody an idiot very early in the movie, like freaking like 10 minutes into the movie. The soldiers call Woody a dirtbag. The toys threatened to hang Woody. Remember the etching sketch drew the noose for him?

SPEAKER_00 52:35

They did.

SPEAKER_06 52:36

You had a good riddance to your loony, and then a stupid dog insult that was in there, I guess, towards Scud. This movie was rude as hell. You know, we talked about like cartoons being like for adults and stuff, too, or whatever. Like, just how much time there was, I don't know. I feel like you're not gonna see in a cartoon right now they're just calling people idiots like left and right, like that. Like this is such a 90s movie. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think they would. Yeah, I I think you can't say that, you can't do that of stuff. And there's there's a special charm about the 90s where you were still able to do and say some inappropriate shit, you know, here and there. And Tor Story was not an exception to this. So I just had to point that out because that shit stood out to me. I was like, you idiot. I was like, damn. I knew if I called my brothers an idiot in my household, I was getting my ass whooped. So that's where that shit made me that stood out to me as well.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

I don't think I ever noticed that.

SPEAKER_06 53:35

Damn. You didn't notice it just now when you watched it either? Damn. Alright, well, hey, I did.

SPEAKER_03 53:43

No, I feel like I feel like I like Toy Story over Toy Story One. No, not over. Toy Story One is like classic, but I like the storyline with Toy Story 2 a lot. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 53:57

I haven't so I haven't seen Toy Story 2 in a while.

SPEAKER_03 54:03

So go down a deep dive and watch one, two, three and see what's right.

SPEAKER_06 54:07

Well, I'm actually about to. I'm gonna rewatch, I'm in the process of re-watching all of them with Malachi leading up to his birthday. Yeah, yeah. So that's work. We're yeah, we're gonna watch two one of these days

Toy Story 5 Box Office Bet

SPEAKER_06 54:20

here. Yeah. So yeah, we're about to go through them because we're gonna see Toy Story 5 for his birthday. I'm going to the movies. Well, he's having his party at the movie theater.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:30

But I was gonna ask you, like, so we just saw Toy Story 2 and no three and four made a billion dollars. Toy Story Five, you think it's a lock for a billion dollars or no?

SPEAKER_03 54:41

No.

SPEAKER_06 54:42

You don't think so?

SPEAKER_03 54:43

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 54:45

I think that's a guaranteed billion.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 54:48

Why not?

SPEAKER_03 54:49

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 54:49

I th I don't think um When did Four come out with four came out in Four came out in 2019?

SPEAKER_03 55:09

I feel like the kids who saw it then are checking for it now. And then I feel like I don't okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 55:23

Seven years ago.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:33

Yeah, no. I don't think so. I don't think they're hitting a billion. I mean, they're gonna make some money. I I'd give them like three or four or four hundred million.

SPEAKER_06 55:42

Three or four hundred million?

SPEAKER_03 55:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:44

You out your goddamn mind? They'll kill themselves if that's all that movie makes.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

How much is it cost to make?

SPEAKER_06 55:50

I just told you, I just told you that movie is is I just told you Pixar films are averaging 589 million.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

You don't even think it's gonna make a nine, six hundred million and it's not making a billion. You are out your billion. You were out your bet whatever you like to bet right now. It's not a good thing. Oh, let's do it.

SPEAKER_06 56:07

Listen, let me explain to you why you're wrong here, right?

SPEAKER_03 56:10

First of all, are you gonna watch Toy Story 5?

SPEAKER_06 56:14

Are you do you plan on watching Toy Story 5?

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yeah, I'm gonna watch Toy Story 5.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

You know what? I can't now because my dollar may push it over the limit. So I'm just gonna have to pull it off.

SPEAKER_06 56:23

Oh 999 million dollars. God damn it, the 40s though.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

But I looked $20 to send it over the time, so I'm gonna have to pull off.

SPEAKER_06 56:35

I know. So you're looking at it all wrong. Like, it's not about who was a fucking kid when Toy Story 4 came out, it's about us. We're the one with the buying powers. The us who were five, six years old when it came out 30 years ago, we're the ones that are going to watch Toy Story 5, and we're the ones with kids that we're taking to go watch Toy Story 5. Also, like Disney is marketing the shit out of this movie, like it's all over the place. It there's first of all, there's no way this movie doesn't make at least 800 million. You saying 600 million is is absurd to me, but I think it's gonna clear a billion. Easy.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

No, it's not making a billion.

SPEAKER_06 57:15

Okay, okay. Well, we'll see. Well, this drops this drops opening weekend of Toy Story 5, so we're gonna get an answer pretty quickly based on this after these opening numbers go. But yeah, I expect it to do very, very well.

SPEAKER_03 57:33

I just Google it so much like Toy Story 5 will make two billion. I'm like, get the f out of here. So bad.

SPEAKER_06 57:40

2 billion is crazy. I'm so mad. We didn't even talk, and that's my fault. I I got overzealous. We didn't even talk about this movie made 363 million worldwide when it opened. It got re-released in '99 again, or when Toy Story 2 came out, it got re-released. So Toy Story has made $401.2 million in nine in the 90s. That's how much this franchise made. It was a $30 million budget back then. And you're telling me it's gonna barely clear what the first movie did? Come on, man.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

It's not making a billion. I'm sorry. Come on, man. Just what it is. It's my prediction.

SPEAKER_06 58:20

All right.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

I'll give it 900 million. It's not making a billion.

SPEAKER_06 58:25

Oh, you can't okay. Well, so you're gonna change your guess from four or six hundred million all up to 900 million. No, no, no. And then say it's not making a billion.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

That's right, that's my that's practically a billion. The the bet was will it make a billion? You say yes, I say no. If it's 999 million, that is not my fault.

SPEAKER_06 58:46

Okay, alright. It'll make it. Do you know how much Super Mario Galaxy made?

SPEAKER_01 58:52

Nah. I was trying to Google it and I don't know why it wouldn't come up.

SPEAKER_06 58:57

Okay, so stop Googling. I'm gonna ask you right now. Right now, do you think that I don't know the number yet either. Do you think that Toy Story 5 will do better than Super Mario Galaxy? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_04 59:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 59:12

Okay. Super Mario Galaxy movie has grossed over $1.001 billion at a Google Box Office.

SPEAKER_03 59:21

Then no.

SPEAKER_06 59:24

How about we rate this thing?

Ratings Breakdown And Final Scores

SPEAKER_06 59:29

For any newcomers, we rate our movies based on five categories: plot and writing, acting, casting, production, cinematography, music and sound, and cultural impact. Everything is rated on a scale of one to ten. Plot and writing, Jill, what do you have? Tor story. Oh, I have a perfect 10.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Oh, it's a gap right there.

SPEAKER_06 59:54

It's a gap right there. It's a gap right there. This is an original movie, original screenplay. Like we we talk about how everything's already been done, or everything is a remake, or a re-thread, or a novel. These guys came together, put together an amazing story. It was even nominated for best original screenplay, which had never ever happened before for animated film. They got a 10 in my book.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

I only dropped it because of the things that we pointed out. Like the toy, the toy, the toy story. Toy Logic is kind of off, but okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:34

I guess. I guess. But I'm here for it. Acting and casting, what do you have there?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

Um, I have a nine for that.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:44

I also have a 10 in this category. Tom Hanks and Tim Allen do an amazing job, but the supporting cast as well, who I did not take the time to mention, but the supporting cast as well did an excellent job. Like it was just a great supporting cast. Your two leads did amazing and are a big part of our childhoods. I give them a 10. Production, cinematography, and visuals. What do you have?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:14

That I actually have a 10.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:16

Okay. No arguments here. I likewise have a 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

Are you about to give this 50 a full 50 here?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:24

We're about to find out. We're about to find out. We're about to find out. Music and sound. What do you have?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

I mean, you can't go wrong with You Got a Friend and Me.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

So I gave an attending go.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:38

Oh shit. Likewise. Iconic score. You got a friend and me is one of the most amazing songs that's been in a movie, not just an animated film. And it did receive the nomination for best original score. Cultural impact. Where did you fall on this one?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

Yeah, I mean, there's literally a five coming out. So you can't go anywhere else but ten with this. So I mean, it's spanning at least two generations at this point. As you just pointed out. So, or I guess three, our parents, us, and then now our children. So, you know, three generations. So, yeah, I don't I would I it'd be I would be lying to say it's not culturally impactful. So, yeah, 10.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

In addition to all of that stuff, you also have the fact that it's the first animated, uh, fully animated movie, that that revolutionized the game and it it helped propel the movie making industry and the technology and everything that was using it. And Pixar, you know, maybe who they are now. And Pixar being a giant, being their first movie. For this to be your first movie, like your first hit, like, come on, man. You know, like this. Talk about a success story. I have given this also a 10 for my first and only perfectly rated movie that we have covered thus far in RTB's history. Oh, yep. You're okay with me giving Toy Story a perfect score, or I am not okay with you giving toy story a perfect score.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

But, you know, this is your childhood thing, so I'm gonna leave it alone. And if this is what you feel, this is what you feel. But okay, I'm not gonna argue off. I'm not gonna argue you off of a childhood memory.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:36

I'm glad And your whole thing is the plot? Like you don't think the plot's good enough?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

Good enough. I just it's holes. So I'm recognizing those holes.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:45

What does it everything has holes though? If you if you're gonna go off of that, nothing will ever get a 10 from you. All these movies have holes, plot holes in them. Every single movie has a plot hole.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:56

And I guess we'll never get a 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

Oh well.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:00

Every single movie has a plot hole. I mean, there's like I guess it depends on the movie. Like, I don't think doubt had a plot hole in it.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:14

I guess not.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:18

I guess not. And I think I gave didn't I give doubt a ten?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:23

No, you did not.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:24

Jesus Christ. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

You're a dick. You give doubt a six. I gave it a nine. I gave it a seven.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

I might give it a six.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:35

Uh sorry, that's it.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:36

You did, yeah. Yeah, you yeah. You were rough on that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:41

You know what?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:42

All right, well, hey, all right. Well, toy story, we're gonna have to have like a movie hall of fame or something for our tens, maybe our nines and tens. I don't know. We gotta figure that out. Final scores, you have a 9.2, which is very high. That's your highest score by a lot as well. And I have, as I said, a perfect 10. Well, that will do it for our Real Talk and Banter on Toy

How To Reach Us And Signoff

SPEAKER_06 1:05:14

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Malachi Talk Toy Story Reactions

SPEAKER_06 1:05:28

Hello and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast, the movie podcast where we discuss and review films that are at least a decade old. I'm Omari Williams.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:40

I'm Malachi Williams.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:42

And that's right, today we have another episode of Malachi Talk. I don't know, we're working on the name. But we just watched, well, you want to introduce the movie? What did we just watch?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:53

Toy Story.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:54

That is correct. We watched Toy Story, the original Toy Story.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:58

Number one. That is correct.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:00

Right. Do you know how old Toy Story is? It is 31 years old.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:07

31?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:08

Yeah, how old are you?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:10

Five. Yeah. I'm five and a half. I'm like five above half.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:16

Yeah, you're about to be six, right? Soon. Very soon. Alright. Toy Story. Thoughts. What did you think about the movie?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:23

I liked it. I loved it. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:26

You liked it, loved it, loved it. Nice. Favorite part about the movie?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:31

When he gets captured on the and the the toys that are put together.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:37

When who gets captured?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:40

Belay and Woody.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:43

So, wait, your favorite part is when they got captured and so when they're in Sid's house with Frankenstein toys?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:51

Oh really?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:52

Where they're put together and they help them.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:55

Okay, so you like that they would help them out?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:58

Those toys didn't scare you out? Scare you a little bit?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:00

No, I they don't scare me.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

They used to scare me, but now I watched it tons of times, so it doesn't scare me anymore.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:09

You know what's funny is that when this movie came out, you know how old I was?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:12

How old?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:13

I was five years old too.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:14

What?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:15

I know. That is just strange. I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:20

Yeah. I think it scared me when I was five. They were a little creepy. Like the one, the doll head with the missing eye and the spider legs. That didn't creep you out?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:29

Well, that's the f what the first time I watched it. I was like Yeah. I drum so high.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:36

My mommy saw me drum.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:38

Okay, so you've seen this before.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:40

Yeah, I think you've seen it a couple times. Because I think we've watched it together before. You watch it with your mom. So it's not your first time. But still a fun watch, yes?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:50

Yes. Would you recommend this to your friends?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:53

Yes. I tell my friends all about this.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:57

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:58

Did you have any parts of the movie that you didn't like?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:04

At first when he when mm, Woody and them were on the rocket.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:10

Okay, you didn't like that part?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:12

Why not?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

Because uh because I was a little scared I was a little scared it really exploded.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:19

Oh, you thought it was gonna explode on them. That was a little bit stressful. I get that.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:23

Any anything you want to say about the movie? Anything else you want to share?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:32

I don't know, but my theme my my really, really, really, really, really best pipe is when when it was when they recorded what they're saying, that was the really funniest pipe.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:48

Who recorded what what?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:49

Which part when the m his the kid's mom got stepped on the soldiers, that whole scene where they try to sneak up.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:58

Oh, in the beginning scene. That is a very cool opening scene. So you have the little toy soldiers, and they're sneaking from the upstairs in the bedroom to go down, and they want to they're using a walkie-talkie to tell Woody and her other toys what Andy got for his birthday, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:15

Right. And they because all of them were really scaled.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:18

Yes, yes. Alright.

Kid Rating Plus Friendship Takeaway

SPEAKER_06 1:09:21

One to ten. What number would you give this movie?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:24

We did that last time, but I'll give it a nine.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:30

A nine? Yeah. So you give Fox and a Hound a ten, but you give Toy Story a nine?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:36

Okay, interesting. Why? So you like Fox and a Hound better than Toy Story?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:39

Well, yeah, it's more interesting.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:42

Which one? Fox and a Hound?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:44

Really?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:45

Yeah, but Toy Story, it's a little bit like rough and bumpy.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:50

Because like there's so many places scenes where it looks like they're gonna be dead, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:57

Yeah, there was some, yeah, there was some str yeah, some parts where it seemed like they were in some real danger.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:02

Yeah, so so that's why. Those are the parts I don't like. That's why I said I hate the rocket.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:09

Because uh Yeah, you didn't want him to get hurt. Okay. What would you say Toy Story was about?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:16

I'm thinking it was about about the friendship.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:21

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:21

Friendship t is about the same thing as the fox and the hound.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:26

Not quite the same, 'cause for Fox and the Hound, they started off as friends, right? And then they grew apart. But for Toy Story, they started off as enemies, and then they grew together to become friends, right? It's still a story about friendship, you're absolutely right. But it's a little different than you know how Fox and the Hound approach.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:45

Well, wait. No.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:47

Okay. Tell me.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:48

The Fox and the Hound started f friends, then they grew as enemies, then they grew as friends again.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:56

Oh okay. Yes, the slight correction is technically at the end you could say that they did become friends again. But they weren't the same type of friends as when they started.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:08

So But they're but they saved us treadle, so that means they're still friends.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:12

Okay, yeah, that's true. That's true. Alright, so Fox and House still gets a 10, and now Toy Story, you give it a 9, right? Yes. All right. All right. Well, that will do it for our real talk, Malachi talk, on Toy Story. Yes, yep. All right. Well, thank you.