30 years of wisdom

What every Leader Needs to Face to Truly Transform Organisations

Jacky De Forté Season 2 Episode 10

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True organisational transformation doesn’t start with strategy, KPIs or performance metrics. It starts with awareness.

In this episode of 30 Years of Wisdom, I’m joined by Dr Arokia Antonysamy — award-winning psychiatrist, senior executive and transformational leader — for a conversation that goes far beyond leadership styles and management techniques.

This is a conversation about the part of leadership most people avoid looking at:
 the dark side.

The unconscious patterns, blind spots and inherited behaviours that quietly shape how leaders show up — and how, when left unexamined, they can slowly erode trust, creativity and psychological safety.
 Or, when brought into awareness, become a powerful source of transformation.

Drawing from over 20 years of experience as a psychiatrist, board-level leader and executive coach, Arokia shares real-life examples of how highly driven leaders — CEOs, managers, entrepreneurs — often don’t lose people because they expect too much, but because they don’t realise how their behaviour is experienced by others.

We talk about:

  • Why every leader has a “dark side” — and why that matters more at the top
  • How subconscious patterns influence leadership behaviour without us noticing
  • Why awareness, not authority, is the real leadership lever
  • How unaddressed blind spots can quietly destroy teams and cultures
  • What happens when leaders learn to read the room, not just the numbers

This episode isn’t about blame.
 It’s about responsibility.
 And about the courage it takes to look inward — especially when you lead others.

If you are a CEO, a manager, an entrepreneur, or anyone who leads people, this conversation will invite you to pause and ask one powerful question:

What is my dark side — and how is it impacting the people around me?

Coaching & Mentorship

Arokia Antonysamy LinkedIn: 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/arokia-antonysamy-b6701127/

Arokia also speaks openly about the importance of coaching and mentorship at every stage of leadership.
She shares insights from working with her own coach, John Lee — internationally known speaker and coach — whose work focuses on values, purpose, identity and the deeper “why” behind leadership and success.

Books mentioned in this episode

📘 Good to Great — Jim Collins
A foundational leadership book exploring why only a small number of organisations truly make the leap from good to exceptional. 

📘 The Diary of a CEO — Steven Bartlett
Araw, honest reflections on leadership, growth and self-awareness. 

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With gratitude,

Jacky – Founder, 30 Years of Wisdom