From, Setbacks to Comebacks with Chris & Sheryl Tan | Marriage Is a Marathon S2 Ep. 11

Every marriage faces seasons of uncertainty. In this conversation, Chris & Sheryl Tan reflect on how financial challenges became opportunities for growth, revealing how faith, perseverance, reinvention, and a committed partnership can help couples emerge stronger together.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Love. You have to love your wife, you have to love your kids. If may na smoking It's easier to give up. It's easier to say no bala kada.

SPEAKER_03 0:19

Okay, be kind. It doesn't mean you have to say yes all the time. You can say no in a nice way and be firm, yet still be kind of.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Hi, I'm Anthony Pangilina.

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And I'm Mariselle Laksa Pangilina.

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And welcome to Marriage is a Marathon.

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The podcast season two.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Season two, kasenu season one kamilang. But we realized when you run a marathon, dikana mg. It's a community. It's one big family. So we decided season two, mag inbita na mang kaminang ibang couples. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:07

Through all the triumphs, the challenges, and the good, the bad, the ugly with other people who share the journey.

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So let's run. Let's race. Let's have fun together. Here in this marathon, together we run one step at a time.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

Okay, now at guest. I na pa ka special sa amin kase. Nakita namin silamula. Ang khanilang storya ay merong. Love, loss, and rising up again. Tat ng bese sila ng pa kasal.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Me pak napat pa na ting.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Naskam sila na 37 milli.

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Pero I don't know how anybody can recover from that.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

My goodness. Matin de ang kam back nitong dalabana toka yagusuna tin matuto sakanila. So let's welcome Chris and Shaitan. Yo!

SPEAKER_03 2:06

Sang. But thank you for making us part of your season too.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

It's our honor. It's mutual, mutual honor, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Alamko ano yung hani. Kasi nulat kama y mung invitations.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Anta wagon Palmer handwriting. Say sang lasalista.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

So you write the same.

SPEAKER_04 2:39

Yo!

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Archer kapala. Kayana mg palo. No matter what the challenge. 37. 37.

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Oh, 37. 37.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Ma rango nag quit. 37 kilometers. 42. 42.

SPEAKER_04 2:58

37 kilometers a Sydney marathon nag quit tako.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Hindi nya makayana. Yes. Less than five to go. Five to two.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Uh-huh. Mumag sak na yung blood levels ko. Kasi hindi ako na drain properly.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Asama ng lobko. Kase. Kasi last five. Oh, I paste her. Sabayang kita.

SPEAKER_04 3:21

Kasi abiko mma o na kana.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Ori palang kata pos magisa. But you didn't join. Are you joined just to paste? Just to paste her.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

Yes. Come on, hanga yang. Itong na ka lung kot. Sabi kudun sa medic, dalina ako ng ambulancha sa hotel. Sabi nila, you have to walk to your hotel. So kayaka mi super impressiv in yo kase, ka hit main ng yari sa nyo na big, big challenge. You rose up again and like a roaring lion, yato kayo na mama yang bag.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Sometimes ko yaha, we ask ourselves, or sabin y tohani ni si puba, pa no tayo, pa na natin na lang pasa nongano. If people ask, when people ask, pa.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

So was there a moment of decision when you said, Sigina go in na natin too? Or what? What?

SPEAKER_00 4:13

No, from the start, kasi this the person went to our house. Ah, po we're going to be able to do that. I was asleep. So, sina big na saganya, si gara two weeks or three weeks prior. Because I wasn't involved in the transaction. Okay. So three weeks prior to that, I told her already sa nana kita koin townagil. Sabigo maka na exposure mo. At first in a we pay. A week after. So gumenalang hota. I just exposed to her idea. So that day I was asleep. This girl comes to the house. Send her up now. I didn't have that anymore. So she told us she told her story. We listened. We tried to recover. Pero someone came in. And no alan.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

DK ng. DK yung sabi magiwale na tayo. Dail dito. We're talking about 37 million here, no? Yeah. So actually 37 million of not our stuff.

SPEAKER_05 5:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Yeah. So it's okay, or we lost it together to cover. Eto this some of it or most of it, we had to cover it. It wasn't ours. So yun. So she said, no male sabia panuna. She doesn't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Samo na pick up yun. Yung ganung classing pagi isit na. No choice. Sabaski.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Sabaska. We're a small family, it's just us. No way but up to no choice. So parang sabiko. How ba lapos when it taught me? I told her the truth. Sabiko, after you me telling you that.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Breakdown. Oh my gosh. You have to be strong for her.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah. Even my kids, I see Anya was still six.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

How did you feel when he said?

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Shame, shame kuya.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Yung here, hana. He had to think. Okay. I can't imagine.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Uh huh. Or ka usapola na pa's.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Stress na talaga. Super stress. Anxiety and all combined.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

That's why I answered that way. Kasi I knew. Bibi gay shy. That's why I had to answer that way.

SPEAKER_04 7:54

Maganda rin yung training na sa PBA. Kasi di ba grace under pressure. Kayung pailangal muna ng mata po siung game. Kailang.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Basketball bang tapus ng game tapus ng na. It took us four years. Four years to really recover.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Actually, nga nak din yun ka si. The pandemic, we had to borrow money also. So loan sharks. Woo! Dun talaga, dun kami mezzo anaba.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Well, you know, I want I want this to be a quick learning uh opening for people watching. So when you're down that way, talagang naskam ka. Give us three things that you should remember. Kasi sabinyo four years. Within that four years, what are three things that you as a couple did to overcome? Kcause You have to pray and pray.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Love. You have to love your wife, you have to love your kids. If mahina you just walk away. It's easier to give up. It's easier to say no bala khan. And no kasi saaken. There's no. If I blame her, it's really not gonna do anything anymore. First question is how much do I love her? Pero how much do I love her? I mean, I'm not trying to be righteous, pero mahal ku talage. That's something that I I I cannot say na it tested the relationship, cause it wasn't even in the equation. She didn't do it to improve her life. She tried to do it to improve the family's life. Yeah. So you intention ya was really good.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

No, you intention ya was good, but it's the process. So so Sabina ten habi ninyo dasal pao mahal, anything.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Firm me, don't fight each other. Fight together.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

Oh, okay. Partnership. Yeah. Partnership. Anay pa'ala nung coach na no ng bulls, Albert? Phil Jackson? Yeah. Sabinya recovery, not regret. Yeah. I love it. No choice.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

If you regret one.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

You already got married three times by that time. Oh yeah. Okay, okay. I'm going on.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

No, I'll announce it nanang here. Uh-oh. It's her 25th year this August.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

Okay, 25th from the first or from the third? From the first. From the first. From the very first day I met her in Itbunaga. And you will 25 years old. Okay. Karunatana. First was quiet. The second was civil. The third was the church wedding.

SPEAKER_04 11:11

Then the fourth.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Well, it's everywhere we go, I'm gonna marry you.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Mahira pala y'a.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Punta mi hongkong. Simple lang. I mean simple. Just process. I had a friend before in hongkong. Sabigo, I use in mung. Anu lang church lang process lang. You get the priest to marry gunulang. Sabingo yang hirap. Anghirap maga nuti you're not a resident also there. So pa ng pang it na man kung parang make makeshift lang nasarap kami nasimba and tasgun. So hindi natal.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

As a twing pina pa salang musha legal na pak pa pa kasal. No my papeles and everything. Walanghaila da bayaa ta taka.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

All bali the process. The process.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Well, I suppose I asked this question, but you already answered it. Nun wala lahat anun natirah. You mentioned three things. Yung faith and dung paren. Yung pak mahala alung tumata yung partnership thing.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

Basically kamin na lang yung natara.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Actually kuya sa kin yung faith. Nggarun.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Naggarun. It wasn't like it was there already.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Yeah, before it was okay, I'm a Christian, I'm a Katholic Christian, I go to church every Sunday, okay, I pray. Pero it was very guys, guys, guys.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

It's time for you to reignite your faith, whatever you're going through.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

Um just one testimony. There's one day we we stay in the Katipunan area. So marketplace is on Katipunan and we live at the back of marketplace. So we have to do that. So I got into Dakar, started cursing at God. You say you're strong, you say you're powerful, you say you're all we need, you say we ask and we shall receive, blah, blah, blah. All everything that you can say and all the profanities that you can say. Five minute run. Then I went to marketplace. So I go down. I buy grocery, pak paso, oh, same thing. Blah, blah, blah. Pak babachosa house. They didn't know I was home already. Sabiko. I felt the heaviest burden feeling. I thought I was gonna die. So I went up. Our place was four floors before. I stayed in the second floor. Sabiko I asked for you to prove to me that you're powerful. Now you're there, that you can listen. So voila. So at night, we were at the office fourth floor. I was going through. I don't believe postings. Tapu says, say amen. Okay. Please forward. Okay, okay, okay. Na parang nga gamit. Pero bingang pag ganunya. I was reading something. Footprints in the sand.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Yoon, I was carrying you. Breakdown now, sorry. After that. No la. Sorry, pero maramiya hontiting na kosa amiraya. Guys, it's okay to complain. David complained morning, noon, and night. Yes. Kase when you complain, that means somebody's listening. So you recognize it. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

But like what I said it doesn't answer the way we want to. I guess footprints in the sand. He answered. Ever since if I like now, we're talking to friends, that's kasi nyung biggest proofs.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Footprints in the sand. It too yun na complain chan. Bak at my difficult times isalang footprints kaba sa bayan moko. God, is that's when I was carrying you. I was carrying you. Toto. Well, meaning pang isanghan, nanatira. Talent, nisi.

SPEAKER_04 15:31

Oh, talent.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Ah, grabinaman. Pandemia no na no no the ho. Sina tu sumana sayo naito hila pa bom familia. Dina si mula anan.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

Dinaxi mula.

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Yung yung sayao sayo na yung na no.

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Suma sala nan mum. Sina sayo.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Feeling. Bakat panang dinabaga y sa maha.

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But shuma pay tum.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Sa iba. So kapasuna pandemic na andan sina bigosa mga anako. Why don't you ano inspire? Inspire ho because yung iba mara na yung blue chuck. So verified na. Verify. Ma kat se lal lang so talagang. I worked on the following. Yungga naga. Bagsi na big maggri research naha. What's the best time to post on TikTok? Dana. Mg papa alarm na two a.m. post mara na ka draft. Zi ba parang trend yung anamag viral yung post ko. And then I told the kids, na treat it na parang trabaho nyo. Kasi wula nam tangi nagawa e. Pandemik e di. That's weird.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

You know, reinvention is what we would like to bring up here. Reinventing yourself, your career. Pero pag ni reinvent po palang sarilimo in your career. Importante. Gamiti mo no merong ka.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Like, like you had that talent. You had a family. You had a courageous husband willing to have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 17:07

Hindi mona man ini sip na kikita kato. Hindi pa ate.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

So lang ying ba verify hong. Swan people recognize oisi ano na sa home along yan pa. Yungga nineties people, pa na ang sarap sa pa kirabdang, because wala kana mg wula kambi kamila mkaka usa pola kang paang yatun lang yungga bagung friends mo.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Ya yun yang nagang. Ana na ging styht yon.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

Kelan nag simula na na realize mo o TikTok na verify na akon eventually. Yeah. Ano yung next na ng yun.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

So nag grow shampre yung followers ko and then TikTok messaged me. This girl from TikTok na man came from shoppy. Na um kino harang before for live selling like years ago through Facebook pa gan yan sa mi shade di wan na live sell on TikTok kasi mg papa live sell na dao si y na nga celebriti saiko, a ya si gi si gi para sa toto o lang kuya yato na ta ako dana na kong. Kasi shampre iba yung ting nanga osa live seller. Biba parang they look down on you. I just said yes because na hiya.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Glamorous, you know, like the other roles. Wan de say it's parang a kasi laus kana.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

Lifeseller. Ming bangan so. I said yes. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Three months. Three months sabbi parang. After three months, so sabiya do you think I should do it or not? Sabi go, I don't see anything wrong. Two months after what?

SPEAKER_03 18:37

After saying yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Ah, okay. Offered ng sign to sila they're waiting for it to say game na. So ngkami parang sabi, I don't see it. Actually, because Jamie offered her a show. That show kasi goes against our principles. Okay. Okay. My wife, my bed scene, my own. So, we need this. Sabi yan. Han, etu na, we need this. Sabi, I don't care. Kasi principles, when you sacrifice that principle. Well, Ian. Values drive decisions. Yes, it's harder.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

I drag my family into this kind of situation. There's this thing na role na never kongina wata s nayon, parang gawing kun na bak.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

But the production ng meeting yung director. So from PB before. Sabi no director. Sabi. So I was explaining our side. Yeah. Sabi ko uh sabin. Sir Chris? I think marami panamang shows eto does not go does not really resonate with your family principles. We're not trying to be clean or what. Pero sa'min ka se we have kids. So malahi sabik sa nya. Hindi mo pa ng explain ka anya. Siguri ndalawa nalahi poi. Depending ka a nya na six years old. They explain. Context to yo iba. Yes, iba shan timing iba na.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Sa tata o lang. Iba iba yung. Hindi kwa ta lagasha kayangga win. So actually you said yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Yeah, so you went back to life sell.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

So that's when we talk.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Yuning sparang sabbi kusaka nyan naparang. For me, it's not degrading. It's a good work. Established. Kazin duning online TV. Walla ni TV, everything's online nainkshi shift na la.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

How was it? How's your first live sell experience? Angsa ya, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

Oh my gosh, an sa yapalan nito, oh ng billion, dabihanyo pa deba.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

Halong pagin di tra bao sa yo, diva pag masaya. Isay yang indication of a career, you know, direction that you should embrace.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

Imagine I can do 11 hours straight. Straight? Yes. Sabi mwaka, nka etong sa bi kumang ka. Baga garit pa to pa gindi akonag bi break, or for example, like before, it wasn't our um di pa n' agency. So, alaming o, you have 15 minutes break per hour, okay lang di kogunin yun. Pang si na bing pa no kaka kaka yen, uhalin ba, mwinag ta nong pa na mg checkout, o how to checkout, so yung admin, oh, this is how you check out. Pizza nyan yung kenang lang.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

I kao ang involvement mo, pa no, pa na po masa.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Before is to strategize. I sat with her also before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

There was a time. Tapu sangus TikTok, so tinoloi, na ka iso yung parang director ni la kasi parang na ad echa poy rana na sha. So I stopped. So because hey goo. That went for ten months, then we stopped, then brands went directly na to us. So khami ng si seta, king tas.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Yes. Agency. Now we're an agency measure.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

We're with shopping now. And you don't carry your own products.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

We do, because we have two products.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

You have your own products. No, but you also carry other products. Mostly other products. Yes, yes, yes. Now mainstream na. Oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Like from Sony, Samsung.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

So for four years, you nung nakapag pa bawi say nio.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

And more. Sahen, there's a couple that saved us. Na ng patapus nagame natalegang tagilidna. 2023, March, we only had less than 200,000 in our bank. And we had one point something check that we have to fund. And there's a couple that saved us. Actually, and telegang the one the first one is not even a friend. One time she just messaged and said, uh, I know you guys are going through something. Uh maglo loan kame. They're building uh building. Meaning they're gonna take out a loan for us. Yeah, yeah. So it's pending 1.3.4 na check next month. They let us the next day, sent the money. Angels. That other couple finished it.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

In a good way. That was not there before this crisis happened.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

I think strength kasi never tested yung strength naming before. Am I really committed to you? Are you committed to me?

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Everything in a more deeper level. Like communication also.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Not one check bounce.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

So how did you stay true to your promise? You committed and you delivered. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

I called them the suppliers. Sabigo di ganiti ng yare. Yeah. All of them na man said si gay.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

So extension yung stack. Okay, so.

unknown 24:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

So anon sa palagay. Anos sa palagay mo ikau mismo. If this habits na natutunal mo gaga win mung ayun para hindi kana malo.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

What are you habits in your marriage? A no aha.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

Aho shina bin na ba nya talaga.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Oh, it's nagush, mga date wala. It's too nice. Sobre sang mb. Okay. Na paxina bi sa kanyang wag na gando. She's too trusting. Esa sabi ksa nya. That was the time kasa was employed by Meralko as an assistant coach. So ngare, I gave her money na o saiko baala. Maggin mag negocio ka. So ngdika me, first time kami olit na my individualism. Na se, you do your thing, I do your thing. But normally, the decision making really comes from me. Yeah. Sabiangan, me gana to gan. That was her discernment na. Nung ng yar yon. So I that's why I said she just meant well. She meant well. She just wanted better for the family.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

You have to be wise as a serpent. Gentle as dogs.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

What I discovered about myself. Parang walang grey area sa na when it comes to following the rules, supposedly. Or ko any yung tama naparang, okay, be kind o. It doesn't mean you have to say yes all the time. You can say no in a nice way and be firm, yet still be kind. Deba naparang. That is what I'm trying to learn now. It's hard to say no. Alamang ayo kwa na ka offend. Ganita baka pina la kayang maguna. Kapa hindiri na man. Parang ako na yon. Wa ba it kalang talaga na ta. Oh. Urg eng lang dai.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Alo min san min san people pleasing can be selfish also hahan. You know, we we've learned that. You know. Now when you wanna please people, it's because I am payaka, aam mung sira ang ka. I am sira yung reputation mo. So actually, it's still you.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

But but you have learned to set boundaries to say no. Yes. What I've discovered then or siguro proven proven to myself. I cannot decide without asking for his point of view because pagana talaga tas shampe paga. Oh my gosh. At least decision mo na hong and mgaayos. That's what he's always.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Well, the two become one. So at least we na practice yung. Kinakala.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Alpha din kasi ako aate. That's what I give. Inam yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

But that's why you anoint. But sometimes when you're proven to not make the right decision, sometimes you have to now go down and say, Sigehan, echo na man na mg.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Sama mungga my pagsubo. Oh, sabina ten magaka runa pagsubo. Not of you learned. A noong in yung tips. Because it's not an easy time. Right? It's a challenging time for the entire world. Negocio. Ekonomia. Anong suggestion yung sa mga married couples chan. Kung mga karun ng ganung classing economic material challenge or crisis. Yung bumpinagda ananinyo. I mean what what would your advice be?

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Okay, for me kuya, parang dapat ka se okay, I've known some couples na na kiwalaiden because of that.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

You don't marry someone who's going to be with you to have fun with you. Only to have fun with you. Because life and marriage is not all bed of roses. Oh. Even if it doesn't the challenges don't come from both of you per se. Meron nya nae from the outside day. Natalagang susubu ka natusu bo kan kayu. So da paktyon, no matter what. You stick together. And choose each other every day. I think that's what we're doing. Every single day we choose to love each other. Even on those days now. Naho, benin kama sa isat isa.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Atista katalaga, pero ram dam na me naho ya dare.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

I believe that.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

In choice is really important. Choice. Yes. Choice kita.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

So you still choose you choose the higher ground. Choice is one. Actually, it will really depend on the love. Love talaga. And the li guminba. And the lead to choose to just look away.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Love conquers all.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

That's why I think yung iba numa na kihi walay. Maybe my lamat na. Tapos that gave that one person the reason. Ah, okay. Tapu sa talagah se yon.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

As if there's love, there's respect, there's understanding. Parang everything kam ano na ye follow se. Kung mahal mo like pagin di muna mahalag ta' o. Wala na ma like, walang perfect. Sama couples. But pagin di muna mahal yung i sang ta' okay na ma magnify na lahat nag imperfections. Pag nagi wala laika yo. Ekasig nito shaga gana sa, eba kat ng mahal mga sha hindi mo hindi mo mg kina complain yon. Or nata tang moti ba so.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Day one, I told her. Sabigohan, when the time comes that you don't love me anymore, let me know. Then weo kasi yung maglolo hoka. Tell me na lang na. Aaa. Derecho hil mu.

SPEAKER_04 30:40

Lo ko hidi kao.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

Same. Laginya si na sabi ako I know myself, ga nya ginyya so kwa.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

She'may na soulmate. Honestly. I believe that. Na parang Anghirapi. Kumpan komipinga saama. Dibba liking her for seven years from afar. Tapas we came from both. Yes. I admit I was a fan. Admire na langhoya. Wag fan. Admire. Admire. From afar.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Hangang.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

Oh div. Sabigang sang.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

Wang yang kwito ch change yung Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

TikTok asing me, ano yang me bagu si lang trend. What did my mom or my dad look in the nineties? Yes, yes, yes, yes. So ng post cha. Sabig one, I don't understand. Kasino kung mein la boss. Mas magan ta kasi sang yin for me. Ban den.

SPEAKER_05 31:35

Last points according y.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

So yun lang yun. So I think soulmate, that's why I stayed.

SPEAKER_05 31:41

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Well, we always talk about marathons and the journey. And we ask our guests. Kuna says marathon kayo. Nasa anong kilometru na bakayo.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

You asked me that, kuya. Nunga wee. Apinos piang book.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

For me. I just told her the other day that in 25 years parang kahaapun lang.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

Wow. Parang so parang starting to go.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Paran was telling her I would like another 20 years at least. Kasi were 50, so 70. I want 20 years that I feel. Kasi feeling ko yung 25 years. Parangbilis. Kisa yung next 20 years, my mg milestone kana ma feel talagana yung 20 years. Parangan. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

I think because now we are.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Masta se sava box.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

May planning. Before kasi parang crisis management kayo.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Mas na isip ka naalim na, mas tohoto wana, mas matanda na tayo.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

So what do you think will it take to experience that? Kasi yung iba, or you survive the crisis.

SPEAKER_05 32:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

What do you think is crisis? Pero kayo, uh now that you have overcome at least the biggest part of the crisis, what do you think will keep you going so that you finish your marathon strong? What do you think is important so that you will see a great finish to this marathon that you are running at the moment?

SPEAKER_00 33:26

Which this is my question in life. Or we always dress up dress up before we meet. As proper as we can. So saakin, I would really want to still put the best foot that I can for her. And for my kids also. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

Which gana mancha.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

Ganu disa marathon, just to reinforce. You will not finish the marathon if you take your form for granted. Your form has to be with you all the way till the end. Same tempo, same everything. In fact, the best way to finish it is a consistent pace. Ogma go bago. How about you? What do you think will keep you strong till the end?

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Yun yung.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Say consistent.

unknown 34:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:20

Okay lang consistent. Especially on my part.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Which is.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Fighting together, so there are times when, for example, I'd say yes to you, pero hindi na mang anosa ka nya social.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

I'm unlearning and mama sa TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

It's very humbling what happened to us. It's very humbling.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

But inspiring. It is inspiring.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

And it points to the Lord. That's why there's so much.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

There's so much to share. Kase, and discover, like, me, kaila kosi God. Pero, my God, hindi kapala shakailala.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Lumaalim pa.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

Lul maalimku ya.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

No, literally, kasi, we are taught skin dip lang ng relationship with God. It's up to the person actually. Kung talagang gusung umilali. Some use it as a show, some use it as parang proof lang of oh my god da hoa. But in reality, sining God who is God to you, an purpose mo I God. So yundinang dele ma huna when I watch. That's why I seldom watch TV people now. Sakin mostly ko anon limahabi sang pin na pain. Because I think it's misused. So brang misused yung pa lan in all aspects. In all uh sectors parang mashadung abused. Kna pa misan sarapta nungin. Sinobeng sina yung mungad. I'm na I'm not ndi ako holy. I mean um I I have anukase, I have a different mindset in terms of strategic.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Yung wisdom nya huya is sinti ate hindi conventional. Along yung yung parang? Is it hard to be married to him? Knowing na di na conventional yung wisdom. Parang out of 100 people, iba yung intin diny nya sa gani tung intindin nating na 99. Sabiko, well sabi nya mahirap, sabi nya ganon, sabiko, we just find a common ground ka se, and then respect respect each other's views and then like for example, sa kids. Oh, ato yung view ni dad, ato yung view ko at this ganyan. Kongindi kami naka ka nitindi yan at um this aspect, and then it's up to you kong sino na lang ifa alo nyo.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

So insight lung. I just give my insight, but I always tell them it's still your choice. They're old nanoman, 27-23. Yung girl in the 27-23. Still your choice.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Well, you know what? You you went deep with us. And Tomatakyon, Mala Limion. Thank you so much for going deep with us when it comes to your marriage, your crisis, how you overcome. And for giving him glory in our show. You wanna say anything else today, man?

SPEAKER_04 37:38

I just wanna say that I love to see the dynamics of respecting each other and sticking to one another. And sinabi nyung, you fight together, not each other. And that was that has been our motto as well. It's not easy.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Fight together, not each other.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

Sometimes someone meet each other then. But like I said nay, do you fight? Kasi yung fight, mejung malali mung word na yun. It's more of um yung points. We have different points of views. So it turns out to be an argument na parang healthier in a man.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

But min san ha, like before no pandemic, so maka iba naga deba yung perspective about faith and all. Convict ma ho si no bang tama sa amin. And then my answer kagad. Grabe. Asa ka mga nda sakanya. Ina amin ya. Apologize. Uh-oh sabinya. Oh, tama yung sabini mama ngany to gandan. So I don't apologize.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

You don't.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

You wait. You wait. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris and Jesus. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We wish you the very best in the next 25 years, though. Or so of your marathon marriage. God bless you guys. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

This has been Marriage is a marathon.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

The podcast season two. God bless guys. Marathon, the podcast, season two.

SPEAKER_04 40:05

Thank you so much, Mango, for our outfits for today. This episode was shot at Midnight Dream Studio.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

For feedback, suggestions, questions, please comment below. And don't forget to follow us on our socials at Creep Miniman and Mummy Muddy Sand.

SPEAKER_04 40:21

Run it one step at a time. See you in our next podcast. And God bless you.