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Working Together without Drifting Apart with Charisse & Jibby Tinio | Marriage Is a Marathon S2 Ep. 12

Anthony and Maricel Laxa-Pangilinan Season 2 Episode 12

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Charisse and Jibby Tinio explores how shared values, choosing each other daily, and making your relationship a priority can strengthen your marriage through every season of life.

Even in the midst of busy schedules, investing in one another is what helps couples finish the marathon well.

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Sometimes you would wish na sana na intid daddy that you know don't sweat on the small stuff. Sometimes they argue about the littlest things about the wedding in some just just one day. The real thing happens the day after the wedding. So forever.

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So better to invite yung talagan close because we're going to be able to do it. Sometimes it's presence or heart in wedding.

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Hi, I'm Atheni Pangilin. And welcome to Marriage is a Marathon.

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The podcast season 2.

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So season 1, Kami Mariselle ngaousa sharing everything with you. Wow, bhutinalang season 2 maka. Because in a marathon, you never run alone. You run with a community. People have run before you. Those who are trying to run with you, your coaches, the crowd. So season two, me mgahinila kaming makaibigan, ng matagal narg sasama, and we would love to learn from them.

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Yes, this time we want to learn from them. But before that, we want to thank people who've supported us throughout our episodes. And that's Kabalin.

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Yes! Salamat Kabalin! You know, Laksa is from the Linan is from Santo Tomas. So Kabalin, perfect long days and nights of taping. You've been with us all the way. Salamat.

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Having meals that are comforting and of course close to our hearts is really something that's a blessing for all of us. Thank you so much for your support in Marriages and Marathon, the podcast season two.

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So the episode with The Power Couple!

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I love these two. I'm so happy. So let's welcome Max. Jimmy and Cherise Dino.

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Yes, from Niceprint. Salama. Thank you for being with us.

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Um our pleasure all the time to be invited by Anthony and Mariselle. Thanks, guys.

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They're also part of our book. First question. Anytime. Anytime.

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Heavenly Nanda ting. Ng wedding.

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Of course, heavenly na mm parati.

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Wow, good answer, good answer.

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But baket ndi ganun yung halik natin. Bahat iba yung yakap natin. But ni yung wala banganon. Pressure.

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You know, in anything, I always say, wala ng perfect. Wa lang perfect na wedding day. Wa lang perfect na marriage. In that same manner, no? So heavenly shampre, we only hope and pray na ganon lage. Pero shampre, sa toto ongbuha day to day. Aba eta lagana o minsa na ka inisan. Part of life. Diva.

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Kasma sa yang?

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Oh, yeah. Pano yun na overcome mg inisan. Osa na gagali yung ka yung yung inis sa isat isa.

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Well actually, sa amin da lao is more of work. Yeah, of course. More of work. Of course. Because you work together. Yeah, correct. As a couple, as in okay.

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No problem. How do you how do you deal with it? Pagdan jana. That's a trabalho, ngaka inisan.

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I mean, we have this anulangi parang division lang na pagun nya me yu step backa. Yeah. So you understand? You like.

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I am step back. Han, step back.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah, we're learning for a bit.

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Kameh, it's it's hard, you know, to be married to the same person you work with every day. It's really it's not a joke, it's a challenge. But what we've learned through 23 years being married and 20 years doing nice print is my boundaries everything. Parang min san, talagang we try not to talk about business pag nasakwarto nasana, or pag nagdi dinner. Kasi kung hind wananang stop time. But but yeah, pagwagh.

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You're trying to do that. Consciously, very, very intentional yon.

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Na hindi kame, mag usa plalin na pagarap yungabata, um na ceasefire.

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Kungba. Usu pak vacation mode kami. Oh. Or anything, dikilaan out of the country, but dito lang sam Philippines. Paka sa mag kids, ta lang we try na. Tigil muna.

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Binang kasun dua, nyu bayan, or it's just fell into place. So what? Did you talk about this? Me rab ground rules na na pa kasun dua.

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Yo, nyo, well, rules tamin is si jib me hard stop with pakik pa chika chika kosa telepo no sa gape. Aha. Kasi datate, let's face it, no nung earlier on in the marriage, ni bung pa na mang alam yung mg dos and tones. So it's more of like a request from my husband na. Um, sa events kase di ba guys hindi sha tummitigel. Of course. Until two phone. Oh lung hard stop shon. May mahaka usa pa hung. Event stylist, na coordinator, they're all up and about at midnight. So that was one rule that um that stuck in my head. Na aya o ni jib na sana char pag 11 pm, 10 p.m.gap ng tawa. Kasi kuinde wala na rang magikiing stop time. Everybody.

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Because mahirap ma ignore pag request. Uh oh. Request command pa request And you tend you tend to think more.

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Oh. Yeah, I'm sure.

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That is, or maybe even now, na ka hit na meron na kayang hard stop or boundaries. Meron thing times na big la kayang magigi sing kas my concept ka yung na iseb. Oh, yeah.

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Um brilliant ideas na man. Shangra, it's spontaneous. Uh uh. We talk about it in the plane, is it? You know, there are no hard rules na man in these things. But I guess you mg things na poedin namang itele muna bugas. Um work time na la office hours. So bang weekend we we try not to, you know, talk about the hard stuff.

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Okay, nothing nothing is uh such a great teacher like experience. And events. I mean, how can I sure naka yung instinct? What tells you from the very start? Okay, too, this will succeed. What tells you na i naho me problem?

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Aha sa mga, well meetings, meetings, palango. Siguru pag na ki kita mwa na um non stop yung awai. Ah, naga awai dun palang so meetings preparation. And sometimes I just wanna say, shabre walaga na mg supposition no advise right there and then. But sometimes you would wish na sana na intend di anila that um you know don't sweat on the small stuff. Sometimes you argue about the littlest things about the wedding itself. Which is just one day. And they always say, but um the the the real thing happens the day after the wedding. I love what she said.

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I love I did you hear her term? It's it's a level of closeness that you develop with your partners, your clients when you can speak, you know, from the heart.

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Timing, timing.

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Oh, ho, you know.

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Just, you know.

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Oh, it's a lang, it's a I want more. So you saying paratinagawa. Science.

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Sama grooms aw sa bingo mga groom Haya anan nyo sa bride yun ni yung party na yun. That's derp ano. Dream y la yon.

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Good yon. Good yon when the groom just is so picky and says. It's for the bride. Oh, wow. Coordinator. Wow.

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Which is the best, kasi wala hong alam jan.

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So so, so sam nya red flag. Otoa, bong taim wala. Red flag paratinagawai. Green flag when the groom is willing to, you know, not sweat the small stuff. Give it to the wife. Merun pa, merun pay.

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Red flag, min sa na kikita ko yung yung guy, yung groom, sobra siguru yung. Which is not really wrong entirely. Yung pa giging mama's boy, no? Very anayan, very common yung sa Filipino, um sa mga Pamiliang Filipino. And there's nothing wrong with it. Siguro nagiging red flag lang yung yung partena hindi na makapag decision. Isang groom.

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About things.

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Because the bride will always have to, you know, take a step back.

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Walang leadership.

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Walang wa lang salita kasilaad, mom. What do you think, mom? Oh no. Wow. Mangpa pa kasalka naba. And na y intend di muba na bagnag pa kasal ka e you will leave your parents.

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Every time naga tang red flag, wali nya.

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Isi mga? Antoni mara sa me bago.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

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Watu wa ka in isip mo.

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So na kikita muna talaga early on.

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Well, these are these are in indications. Diagnostics in niba.

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Yeah.

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Nahikita muna shai.

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We always hope and pray nasa na bokta kaldiba.

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Me pagasa pa na man. Mep nama you know, while there is life, there is hope.

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Maybe another green flag para na mala balance.

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Oh sake. Ana pa isang green flag. Wow. Para red flag. In fact, in fact, it's inspiring. Tell us one situation where.

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No, no, for green flaguru, uh, maybe sigoro pag makita mata lagin koppel natalagang in harmony sila when they when they plan the wedding. Okay. Yung union nah. Yun yun na kakinaby e too. Ah, yes, okay tamayan. Okay. Yeah. So it's it's something uh, no, yung yung they have the same values.

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They value the same things. Yeah. Wa lang small awe awe on the side just because uh me isang partner gustung gawedi bride na highlight, yung ganon ba. Those little things, it matters. Kcause it means kung dito palang sa onset ng yung yung wedding planning in a kahasun dun nahayo. Um talagang sa marriage, makigita mona magla laston. Shaka sigoro uh to to add no lastly is makigita mutala yung green flag is a lifelong uh pag sasama nila. Yung hindi boy ka mataya n yung wedding day lay. Yeah, yeah na paran. They they also think about practical things like okay, hindi body uboosing yung beranatin sa isang ara, kase kailangan may ba hai patayo, diba and uh um excited in say this a honeymoon, kasi that's the time that they spend time together as a couple for the first time, supposed to be. And you know, these things it it makes me smile because they see the bigger picture, not just one day.

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Well, well, connected question at all. Starting couple. What is that one advice you will give them?

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Um practical side no. Yung yung dila. Ka ilang sundan. Lahat nung na kakita nila sa trends. You know this this society this generation, na boy talaga silana, lahat na sa social media. Everything they see. Everything that they see online. And and I feel like um your wedding is you. So you do you, right? And that's what I always ask our brides and groom, na. What is it that you really like? What is your dream wedding? Not because you saw it somewhere. Or gusu mungigaya. But tapat yung um sapusumo, it's something that you really like. And when you look back to it. Hindi na uso. Rhyming. When you look back to it 10 years later, yung alamung yung yung ginus tung wedding. Hindi because nakita mo sa idol mo lang.

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Wag lang yung trending. Choosing your visitors.

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Ah, na oh, controversial yan. That's you.

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Better to invite yung talagang close, cause the case. Right.

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Invite even your friends.

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Status quo, dependi. Principal sponsor.

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Sama ananglo, ng dina invita. But you know that that part that Jibi saying na reset yan because of the pandemic. Extended family. Wow. Same words. So na uso yung intimate. And I think the couples these days, they like it that way. And you know what? One thing we noticed, usually yung ngba bayad. Ng weddings. Yeah. That was a norm. In the 90s. Yeah. Right? Um, even early 2000s. But now, um dail mas matana ng papa kasal yung generation ato. And they've um earned, you know, um something and saved up, so sila nangaso sa wedding nila.

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Yeah.

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Therefore, hindi na nila kailangizama. Ah. Dailin dina magula nga nakbaba. So that's that's one thing I I really noticed.

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Yes.

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Hang wedding mga marriage counsellors.

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20 years bana mg nakita na ni la binyak. Naha. First birthday, seventh birthday, ta pos na karu nagdebu. 50th wedding anniversary di bappa tion. Saka y na inspire.

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I'm sure meon kait isa. Na kayu mismo yina inspire. Could have been maybe uh a wedding anniversary. Ikao, meyang ka bang natatan da na a moment where, wow, this this couples.

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Wow. Because I'm not going to be able to do that. Yeah. When they have their vows, talagma mean pure heart nila together. How about you, Charis?

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Um, one wedding na sikoro very, very inspiring. Was the wedding of Tita Boots and Son Rowan. Oh my gosh. And uh Rodrigo. Yeah.

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That was 69 yung.

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Except, yes, they were like in their late 60s. So Tito was like 70s, and they chose to get married. No. First marriage led to each other. So I I realized it's not about age. It's not about just what the society dictates. It's what these two people feel at that moment and they wanted to, you know, to be blessed by the Lord. Um that was amazing.

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And I was amazed at the fact you, mother of the groom na guak 105 years ago.

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Exactly, exactly. Wow.

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That was touching.

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That was touching. Um and then recently we covered the the 10th anniversary wedding of Pauline Soto and you know, bossing. That was also super kiling na keliga koka se imagine. He's not na man super young na deba when pina kasalanya si poline. Tapas umabut si da ng 10 years anniversary. And you know na akalako date, ng unang na koplan no ka me polin. Akalako si polinga megusto. Kosiam pre bride, of cour young, diva, memga um dreams in her head and all that. Si bosingusto. And I think the inspiration there was um they wanted to have this 10th year anniversary because the kids are already there to see it. So, you know, Tali is there and Mochi is there to witness it. And they weren't there in the first wedding, of course. So, kaya yung yung magiging nagiging inspiration dinnu mga koppos ging yon magrinwal ka se yung mga anaknila partina.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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We'll be back after this short break. I wanna know why it's called Midnight Treaty.

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For creativity, basically, you know, so people can come here and be creative, they can shoot photos, they can do video shoot, podcasts, workshops.

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Like this before I got the photo.

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What did I before the focus? We have 40 plus studio spaces. So we call it dream sets. So anything that you dream of and I to be and uh dream to uh create, it's uh we do have it here. So we have this Korean space here. Korean set. So right across is uh Korean costume uh random so people can actually rent their costumes when they come here and then they take pictures.

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You're here almost all the time. Yes, every day. What is it about this place that makes you come alive?

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Every time I come here, I just you know creativity just really bursts, and you know, you you think of new things and new ideas. Yeah. Yes, ever since. 25 years. What's the biggest challenge when you when you have something like this? Apart from the place being so big, you know, there's the need to continually think of something new because we just can't be the same.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna expect okay I don't bang one set. Okay, okay.

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So which is why we do have some uh seasonal sets like this Imperial Room, which we launched last uh Chinese New Year. So back up to the last time I think you visited the last one. So this is a set that comes with costumes. So people who would avail the other shoot here can also ask the costume. To be honest, this is what this was one of my dreams. I only I only jumped up something smaller. And then when the opportunity came, I thought my friend, I'm not sure if I can take on this opportunity, but my friends said, you know what? If the universe gives you something this way, you have to be ready!

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Yes, this is what was available.

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Yes, this was money, and this is more than what I asked for, so yeah, and and it's such a fulfillment to see people's dreams come true.

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Absolutely.

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No, I've always been a dream enabler, so I like that. Yeah, so I always tell people if your dreams hasn't been happening yet for you, make other people's dreams come true.

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Thank you.

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Let's get practical again. So so you work together, okay. You're you you say you have boundaries, that's one thing we're picking up from you. That's right. As a couple who work together on the same projects almost every day. We also work together.

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So usually we start our day midday because that's events ying na. So an time manager, she goes, she goes to other events. Because uh I do most of the operations. Yeah. So shin telegram, PR, and marketing. Yeah. So dividing data. Yeah.

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Exactly. Um, ng things to do.

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Da ting da.

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That is. night or sabai na sa vacation. Yeah pupun ta let sa yang Europe for a wedding, ng isang client. So chambre maga extend kami na mga one more week. So you know we can be together. Um yang yung mga practical tips.

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Chain mg wine nights na min.

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Ayang yanya. Ayyan date nights. Lat ng possible time. Ka no ka bisi.

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Wine nights. Yes.

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Mita yuna makabi.

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Any type of wine. Any time.

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What's the wine? That's the magic word, ka Anthony. Oh wow. So we're talking about marriage in a marathon. As in, you know, the marathon of life. So para sainyo, anung stage na kayo. Ng inyoung marathon. Oh wow. Are you in the beginning? Are you midpoint? Have you hit the wall?

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42 kilometers. 42 kilometers. So 42 na sa nagayo. Alahatin naba 30 mm 30 plus na tayo. 21. Half time kapala.

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I think halfway. Because that's really where we are. We're like on the 22 23 years of marriage. And um so there's a a long way to go. We still have uh an eight year old daughter. Malayu patalaga yung yung annu yung yung el this naam they help.

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Yeah like anak na minha mm what are the gaps again?

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It's like we have a 19 year old a 14 year old and an 8.

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Yeah wow grade school high school college literally oh perfect perfect parenting have you ever hit the wall or we have many times that's when you want to quit because it's a tough risk 30th kilometer usually is when people in the marathon hit a wall the parang sa sa bini la butthuliku pa or magarun shen nang second win to finish well. Oh wow y na pay sip na pa isip about that yung na so time wal na yong well when you say wall like that end no it's just like a place of reckoning like you question or you decide or then is this worth it to continue it's a reckoning several times really hopefully you get stronger after that together it's not a negative thing it's just you hit a wall that allows you to reassess your strategy your situation.

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Not very major like not like um unforgettable moment in our lives but you know there are days you know or some nights that we ask ourselves oh are we still doing the right thing? Are we still on the same page about you know things?

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So I'm going to go what do you think is one reason why you have not reached that point na kunisunyo kundapat pain miksama open communication I tell her I tell her it I don't feel insecure. So that's quality movement. You check the quality at the end and then you reject or you accept quality movement. Every step you check so that before it gets really bad.

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I tell her itinafili ko he's very expressive it doesn't make me less of a man but I tell her that's great. And that's it.

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Maga ajust kanaman that's so nice to hear yeah but you know to be very honest gaming dalawa I feel like sometimes girl the feminine side in terms of you know the the usuals like yung sasabini la yung mahana nghoyon I'm like go with the flow or yung manga um di ako n ngaka pa all girls trip kasa la giahoy nahanap tito cingy ng usually twice or dibu usually lila yung gimmick talaga osa night out with you know my high school bar ka da ito yung day hung bati wedding sa bahailang one so like um in that sense sometimes Jib would you know ask me to sit down and then sabinya this this is something I didn't appreciate last week blah blah blah or yesterday or today so he's very vocal for a guy I appreciate it kasinga na pa ka open no communication na minya obusa naka usa guys pick up a lesson or two come on it's okay bring out the feminine side is ng quarto, range and furniture, pagawa pagrigerator sa.

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And it and it's perfectly fine. Reverse that's fine.

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Yeah tung ana walang insecurity about those things.

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Sometimes I go to the market in the next day.

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Enjoy pause the level of excellence that I see in Nice print is the same level of excellence I see here now because there is assessment, there's evaluation there's evolution and I've seen Niceprint through all these years na na start kayo and then nag evolve improve kayo ng quality and I see this before my eyes right now. So it's a message to also a lot of people na hindi moeding is separate yung personal and professional life definitely you can't fake it and I always say the company is a reflection of who the owners are and in the same way your c you would be the reflection of that company.

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Because it you know it starts with the head of the company. Integrity wise deals is also how you would deal with your business.

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So yung bagay nayung yun yung papa and so be lung even inside our house, even with the yayas that's also how we want to run the business and how we want our clients to feel well every marathon has a last few miles no imaginar minute we run okay how's the finish line gonna look like how you want the last few miles to look like you know how how is this marathon marriage your marriage how do you want it to climax you know towards the end faith langs uh you have to have faith and then let go and let God you just have to pray every day every Sunday you go to mass and then pray and then guide through out so keep the faith of course through and through the thing.

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Because if you'll be guided well faith crooked lines so oh god that's that's how simple life for you and I forget what is behind and I strain towards what is ahead you know how about you see it waiting video I would think it's gonna be a little bit more relaxed.

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Yes it's been intense intense not our marriage but our lives as a married couple it's been so busy been so um you know it's been practically everywhere. So you know when I look at the last you know the Sabim Pafenish line I would want to enjoy the the fruit of our labour. Yes must relax must serene reflective prepare for that guys and um you know to just really be in the moment and just about so many things in life. And um I also wanted to say na sabinila mg invest kasa marriage moon kasinga in the end kayo paran magasama I I used to hear that from my mom and my dad and it's true. I see couples sometimes na sa bro invested nila sa mg ana and there's no problem na mantalaga muna yung spouse mo. You know at the expense of your marriage. Ang mg yare pa na na kayo pa g sa yungg anak mo na sila nga sa rili ngua i me sariling ana sa nga goin muion you nung gaga go in rin dila exactly exactly so kame talaga number one is isat isa Shampra da Lord kaming dalawa isat isa and I feel like it finish line we would still be very happy because we're really best friends. We are best friends anapo dao yi yak ng todoto kosi wa na o la nahu ana nahi wa na ko with you nah I was just so happy because we're we're really best friends.

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That's great that's great to hear and thank you so much for being among our best friends. You have journeyed with us the pangilin family I love we love love love the Pangilin family. We love love you mga wedding ng pangilina and just go Anthony nano punta ho la ng pamangke as a couple nice print salami thank you and marriage is a marathon and thank you for journeying with us yes our pleasure so you have watched Jimmy and Cherice here at Marriage is a marathon the podcast season two.

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God bless guys thank you for joining us for another episode of North season two for our outfits for today this episode of Sharp Midnight Dream Studio feedback suggestions please comment below and don't forget to follow us