Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon
Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.
Each week, Eric — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.
From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.
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Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon
Ep. 28 Power, Precedent, and Accountability: Why Power Must Explain
Precedent is set by what we excuse, not what we celebrate.
When power acts first and explains later, accountability erodes—and precedent takes hold. In this episode, Sue and Eric examine recent events in Minnesota, federal enforcement surges, and global reactions from Davos to assess what really matters beyond any single incident. The danger, they argue, isn’t one decision or one tragedy—it’s the pattern forming beneath them: pressure without restraint, authority without explanation, and leadership that mistakes justification for legitimacy.
Looking outward, they explore how allies and adversaries interpret America’s internal signals, why trust cannot be surged in a crisis, and how precedent—once normalized—outlives any administration. The conversation returns to first principles: accountability is not optional, oversight is not political, and power must be defensible regardless of who benefits.
Timestamps:
00:25 Welcome to Understandable Insights
01:44 Navy Women's Basketball
03:46 Episode Introduction
04:46 Minnesota Intelligence Analysis
07:41 Information Operations and Adversaries
10:01 Leadership Failures and Accountability
22:05 Respect for ICE and CBP Individuals
29:03 Combatting Selective Information
34:20 Precedent and 4 Unravelings
42:59 Davos and NATO Reactions
50:57 Episode Walk Away Beliefs
51:43 What We're Watching
About the show:
Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon is the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.
Each week, Eric Koepp — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.
From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.
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