Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon
Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.
Each week, Eric — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.
From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.
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Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon
Ep. 29 Power Without Permission: Who Decides When Technology Governs Us All
When technology companies operate as economic engines, civic spaces, and geopolitical actors without the obligations that traditionally accompany that level of power, sovereignty itself begins to redistribute. In this episode, Sue and Eric examine the dangerous mismatch between capability and accountability as AI reaches what Anthropic's CEO calls "technological adolescence" and Sue calls powerful but not yet wise. From Russia poisoning AI training data to South Korea pioneering governance frameworks, they trace how decisions made at machine speed by private actors are reshaping markets, speech, security, and even war. The question, they argue, isn't whether technology is good or bad—it's whether the system producing it reflects the values and risks we're willing to accept.
Timestamps:
01:18 Super Bowl Picks
02:42 Previous Episode Updates
06:36 Episode 29 Introduction
08:29 "The Adolescence of Technology"
15:15 AI Poisoning
24:25 GIGO: Garbage In, Garbage Out
26:23 South Korea AI Policy
29:10 Tech Companies and Government Accountability
35:00 Redistribution of Sovereign Authority
39:17 Iran, Starlink, and Foreign Policy
43:03 Episode Walk Away Beliefs
45:45 What We’re Watching
About the show:
Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon is the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.
Each week, Eric Koepp — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.
From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.
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