S2 Ep 11: From Hard Hats to Flats | Carla Truitt | Bench to Bold

Carla Truitt, founder of Eight Royale, joins Marnie and Alisa to share how sore feet, a music career, and a lot of hustle led her to design a line of stylish, packable flats and why year eight is the year she's finally found her voice.

EPISODE NAVIGATION:
00:00:07 — Marnie and Alisa introduce Carla Truitt
00:02:09 — Carla traces her path from communications student to marketing, marriage, motherhood, and the entrepreneurial vision that grew from it all.
00:05:10 — The origin of Eight Royale
00:07:30 — Alisa shares her own painful Super Bowl heel story
00:11:50 — Carla on what makes Eight Royale different
00:14:00 — Marnie coins the new slogan: "Healing without heeling"
00:15:11 — Carla reveals she's celebrating Eight Royale's eighth anniversary in 2026 — the lucky number that inspired the name
00:18:30 — The bold moments
00:23:45 — Carla on her son's football journey at the University of Iowa

ABOUT OUR GUEST:
Carla Truitt is a Washington, D.C.-based entrepreneur, founder of Eight Royale, and a woman who has never been afraid to build — whether that's in the music industry, construction, or footwear. Raised in a family of Guyanese immigrants with an entrepreneurial spirit woven through generations, Carla studied communications and marketing before charting her own course. She spent years working behind the scenes in music (including time affiliated with Bad Boy Records), running a construction cleaning service, and raising a son who went on to play Big Ten football at the University of Iowa. Eight Royale — her line of stylish, packable, cushioned flats — was born out of a real need: beautiful shoes that don't cost you your comfort or your dignity at the end of a long night. Now celebrating the brand's eighth year, Carla has stepped fully into the spotlight, traveling, telling her story, and building what she calls a lifestyle brand for women who walk in power and step into purpose.

CONNECT WITH CARLA & EIGHT ROYALE:
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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Bench to Bold. I'm Elisa and I'm Marnie. And we're so excited to be here today. It's podcast day, and we have a great lineup today, starting with Carla with A Roy Al. She has a new company and she's going to tell us all about her her story and how this got started. Good morning, Carla. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Good morning. Good morning. Well, such a pleasure to be here. And thank you for having me on this amazing platform. Just wanted to just start off and, you know, just say thanks. I'm so grateful to be here. And again, my name is Carla Truitt. Yeah, right here in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Well, hey, Carla. So, all right, I'm really excited to get to know you and also all these wonderful entrepreneurial endeavors that you're doing. So we could uh we can start at the beginning. How did you like what is the the the Carla story? Give us a little taste of the Carla story, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Oh wow, that's a great question. That's a good why. Who is Carla? Carla is um self-made entrepreneur, come from a family of immigrants that came over from Guyana. So I'm from that's in South America. And my parents worked really, really, really hard. My dad is a doctor. Um, my mom is a businesswoman as well. I come from a strong threshold of women in my family. Um grew up, you know, very well and attended amazing schools, fabulous schools, from an all-girls school to an all-girl college, been in college there in Greensboro, North Carolina. And from there, I just had a thirst of business. And I, you know, sought that out. I did communications. I thought I wanted to be, you know, Jane Kennedy back in the day. Well, you know, the beautiful Jane Kennedy. I'm like, I'm gonna be Jane Kennedy. And then, you know, my mentor there said, No, I think you're gonna be more marketing and business. And I said, Okay, she's like, I see something in you. And then from there, you know, of course, I wanted the white, white pig fence and the dog, and the and I got married, um, met my husband in Washington, D.C. As you all know, I'm a big sports girl with our our talks and discussion, and and married him. And then from there, I knew I still wanted to be an entrepreneur, and you know, I had my son, and and then it just started, you know, building there. The vision just started building from there.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Fantastic. Well, I love it. I mean, that's really how, and I love certainly, you know, entrepreneurs, men and women entrepreneurs, but I have a a soft spot for female entrepreneurs being one, Alisa being one, my mother being one as well. All right, so like let's let's hear about what you know what 8 Royale is. What are you doing now, Carla, that is entrepreneurial, that uh makes you love it and hate it at sometimes and enjoy it and know that you're on to something that's that's great, and uh, and we're excited to hear about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Thank you. Well, I feel with uh 8 Royale, it it's magical to me now. Um, it started with an idea. I was in the music business, I was hopping from meetings and then leaving meetings and then jet setting to my son's football games, going to football games, jet setting back to meetings in New York. I was back and forth and I said, there has to be a better way. There has to be a solution. My feet are killing me. And I said, Well, not just talk about it, let's be about it, right? So I'm like, I gotta come up with an idea. So I thought about slippers. Um I'm looking at people, you know, women taking their shoes off underneath their desk, you know. I mean, we've all been there or, you know, walking with no shoes at all, you know, leaving an event. And I said, there has to be a better way. So I did a lot of research. I started sketching, you know, how can I make a comfortable but stylish flat to match your clothes? So I thought about color blocking. That's when color blocking was really big back then. Everybody, you know, so I said, oh, what about a color block shoe to go with your outfit? And I found my own manufacturers, went over there, did what I had to do, and came up with um eight royale. It didn't start off with eight royale. Um it had I had a totally different name, and I didn't feel like that name represented who I really was. And so when I was going through the transition of building the line, I said, eight, why not eight? Eight is new beginnings, it's rebuilding, it's rebuilding for women. I'm rebuilding. And then Royale, why not? I love Paris, and Royale is just who we are, we are royal women. So that's how the name came to be eight Royale, the new beginning.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

I love it. I mean, I can so identify with you. Marnie, do you remember Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_02 5:25

I know. I was just thinking about okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

So let me tell you this quick story. Marnie had me at this fabulous event. You know, you gotta look good, right? So, what do we all think looking good on our feet is Christian Louis Vuitton, right? So I go buy a pair of black Christian Louis Batons. I only own one pair my entire life because they're the most uncomfortable shoes I've ever put on my feet. Um, but I thought, you know what? They have this new, I think it's the 86, they call it. I'm not really sure. However, I go buy it and I thought, you know what, it's gonna look cute with these Veronica beard crystal jeans I have, you know. Okay, so all the things, right? We show up at this party. I literally was able to stay only for an hour. I had such pain in my feet from standing in these shoes. But it gets worse because I get in the Uber and they had all the streets blocked off in San Francisco for Super Bowl this year. Um, and my hotel that I was staying at happened to be the hotel for the the NFL or sponsoring something there. So of course it's the hotel that's blocked off. So guess what? I had to get dropped off almost a mile from my hotel to walk in these damn shoes. By the time I got there, I was crying, literally crying. Tears were coming out of my you know, not boohooing, but tears were coming out of my eyes. Had I had eight Royale, I could have because that you know, they fold up. I've researched these. These are fabulous, Carla. And I could have had those in my little purse and I could have pulled those damn shoes out and had a a little bit more joyful walk back to my hotel.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Yeah, and less dirty.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

And less dirty, but you know, you can't take your shoes off and walk barefooted, especially not in San Francisco with all the things they got they have going on on the streets there. You never know what you're gonna step on. I know.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

We've all had experiences that our feet are, I'm just like, that's it. I'm gonna crawl. I'm just gonna crawl because and you know, we want to look good. So the trade-off is like, okay, I know what I'm in for. And I sometimes, you know, will say, I'm just gonna make a deal with myself right now. This is gonna be, you're you're in for it because there's no turning back now. And the minute, like if you're at a hotel and you shut the door in the hotel, you're like, and you're at the elevator, you're like, Yeah, what have I done?

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Yeah, what have I done? And the same thing happened to me. I was in medical sales most of my career, 30 years. Um, I was in and out of hospitals. I was in Carolina Medical Center up in Chapel Hill. I'll remember it vividly, uh, walking floor to floor, um, going in and out of ICUs, and the pain on those ceramic tile floors was so intense. I literally had to walk back to the parking deck, which is not a short walk from the medical center in Chapel Hill, go to R uh the outdoor at the outlet stores out in Raleigh um near Chapel Hill, South Point, and go into Belks and buy some naturalizers. I believe that's the way you said it.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Shoes. Now, however, did I look as good as I did with the other shoes on? No. But did it, you know, help me to get back in that medical center and do what I needed to do and complete my job and be comfortable? But I literally had shooting pains. In fact, I got on the elevator. And you remember when the crocs came out that they had the individual um, I don't even think they were crocs. They were some shoes that had individual um, your toes went into each individual um, it separated your toes. It was some kind of shoe. I get into the elevator with a surgeon because he had his his operating cap on, and I I literally wanted to say, Can I borrow your shoes? I'm like, Can I? Because uh, you know, they wear comfortable shoes in the in the operating room or in the hospital where they have to walk and stand on that ceramic top floor. Eight Royale would be great for you know healthcare people.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Listen, we have all been through it. I'm telling you, I have war stories too with heels, and I'm not saying get rid of your heels, ditch it, because I love it. I mean, you know, my saying now is walk in power, but step into purpose, right? So you take your heels off, you are stepping into purpose. And I just made something so purposeful for us that it has cushion, it has all the things, but it is still cute, fashionable, stylish. I mean, I look, we talk about being on the bench, being beyond. When I started, it didn't start out that way. I went through two manufacturers to get it right. And I feel like I'm I'm I'm there. Like I got it. Like the, you know, the soul, you know, it's more durable that you can wear now all the time. So you don't have to take it off just to switch into your, you know, into the flats, but you can wear them all day if you need to. So I'm I've I figured it out. I figured out what feels good and looks good.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Well, that's that's it too. All right, so I think I might have a new slogan for you. You ready? I'm ready. Healing with an H E A L I N G without healing, H E E L I N G.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

I love that. Marnie always has these great ideas. I mean, she's full of ideas.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Uh healing without healing. There you go. I like it. You know, because then you don't have to put your heels on, but you're still, you know, healing yourself, healing whatever it is. Uh, you know, you're not gonna be in pain. So that's a good thing. So healing without healing.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

You know, the other good thing about these shoes, Marty, is her shoes will pack well in a suitcase. Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

That's great. I mean, and and I think that being flexible, you know, Carla, another thing that I love about you and your shoes is the idea that people can be flexible. Because I, you know, I I always say, and my mom would always say this to me, like the most flexible people, obviously physically flexible, like do yoga and those things, but emotionally flexible, flexibility gives you opportunity. And so your shoes provide flexibility for the the wearer because now they can be flexible. They can put on their heels, but they have an option to put on you know uh eight royale, and that is flexibility, and to give them the opportunity to kind of go between both the heels and the flats is a great thing. And then you're flexible in your uh in your outfit, and also you're not stressed out that when I leave my house or apartment or or hotel that I'm gonna be crying and crawling to get back there.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

I see it all the time. I see I I go out and I see women and they're leaving an event or a red carpet event, and I'm just saying, wow, they we have options, right? Like my I'm I they're out here. You know, flats are out here, but I made them, I don't know, something special about I think my flats, that you feel good when you put them on. It's just not, oh, I'm just putting on a pair of flats and and you know, I don't like them and then I want to take them off. You almost want to keep them on all the time because they really are cute. I mean, they're adorable. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

You see it a lot more being a big city in DC. I see it all the time. I don't spend a lot of time in DC, but I spend a lot of time in New York City and I see it all the time because my husband and I leave the hotel during rush hour or morning, you know, commutes and they're coming home in the afternoon commutes, and you see these woman women carrying their tote bags with their heels because they work at you know, Deloitte or or you know, the Ernst and Young's or whatever financial stuff or the lawyers, um, and they're walking in their tennis shoes. Um yeah. Now you do go out at I do go out at night and I I see these young ladies, even some middle-aged women walking in, you know, four or five inch or taller stiletto heels, and I'm like, How in the hell are you doing that? Especially on this sidewalk. You know, how are your heels not getting in the little cracks and you breaking your ankle or twisting your ankle?

SPEAKER_01 13:59

I have lost a lot of shoes walking in those cracks in New York. And I said, Oh my goodness, I needed a pair of flats. I mean, I got a call during the Oscars, and someone uh called me and said, Oh my gosh, we need your flats here so bad. Every woman was taking off of their shoes once they left off the red carpet at the Oscars. And I'm like, you know, maybe I could be the official shoe for the Oscar night.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

That would be fabulous. It's a great transition shoe, you know? It's such a great transition shoe.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Yes, it is, it is, and the comfort inside, because I made pressure points like pain points, um, inside the soul. So it's on the heel, it's you know, it it's in the middle. It's really cute. I mean, Carla, where do people find your shoes? So they can go online. Um, you know, I'm uh I sell online, I'm not in a brick and mortar. I am in a hotel suite here in DC, but they can go to ww8royale or 8royale.com. Right now I'm doing pre-orders. The new uh shipment is coming in June. So yeah, I'm excited. And and not only the excitement about the new shipment coming in and the new styles coming in, but I realized this year that I am celebrating eight years to this year. I launched in 2018 and I was riding and I'm like, wait, it's 2026. And I've just kind of been slow walking this brand, and I found my voice in it now. Like I finally found my voice in 8 Royale to talk about it. And that's I think that's why I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Well, it's your lucky eight number year. Eight Royale, eight years. This is your birthday year.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

This is you gotta celebrate. I know how many colorways do you have, Carla?

SPEAKER_01 15:54

So I have 12 right now.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Wow. Do you have any bling on any of them? You know, I'm a bling girl, right? Yes, you can put some bling on it. You gotta put some Sraska crystals on these.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

We gotta talk about that. That might be a cute collaboration. They will, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Yeah, yeah. Well, I've also seen um, I don't know if they make them anymore, but they used to make these like kind of clip-on bows that my mom, you know, my mom wore a lot of um flats or like, you know, heels that were more comfortable because she was walking a lot when she was, you know, in her younger work days. And they had these accessories, and you could clip on a bow either on the toe part or on the heel part, and it would just, you know, make the shoe just a little bit unique.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Yeah, just a little more sparkle. It's coming. I have them. So I'm like, you're gonna weigh all the secrets, yes. Oh my gosh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

All right, that's so exciting. Well, I think that yeah, so all right, the name of our show is Bench to Bold, and we kind of touched on it a little bit, but so now it seems like, you know, rather than talking about the bench moments, what are some of the bold moments in your life, Carla? Because we want to celebrate those.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

The I think one of the bold moments is what I'm doing now, hopefully being an inspiration to other women, that it's never too late. I know that's such a cliche, but it's really real. I mean, the real is it starts even with the idea. And once you have the idea, you're halfway there. And I think I took a bold step doing what I'm doing. You know, I was sharing with Alisa that during the day I wear a helmet. I'm in construction. I do, I have a janitorial service that does construction clean. So I wear hard hats and vests during the day, and then at night I wear flats, I wear flats from heels to flats. So um just stepping out, stepping out on purpose and finally figuring out what it is and hopefully helping someone because this is not being an entrepreneur is not weak at heart. I mean, no, it's a lot of tears sometimes, a lot of sleepless nights. Um I'm constantly, you know, what's the next? What's the next in this? And I think me just jumping out doing this and showing people like, wow, I mean, women are calling me like, you're inspiring us. I need to get out more, I need to do it more. It could be done. You could do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

You could especially at our age, you know. I think the 50s for women is reinvent yourself. It's really the most exciting. Yeah, I think 50s and obviously beyond beyond, because I'm I'm in my 50s, so I'm not just gonna stop it there. But I think that it's really a very exciting time and age for women because if you've had children, the kids are kind of, you know, self-reliant, and you know, you now are at a place where you've had a career and maybe something else, and you want to do something, and you have a lot of experience and a lot of wisdom. And I think that the other part about being a woman in business in your 50s is that you actually have more confidence in yourself, maybe, than you ever have had. And that's something that is exciting. So I love watching women entrepreneur, I mean entrepreneur, entrepreneurs of any, you know, men and women, but certainly, like I said earlier, I uh, you know, certainly appreciate because I am a woman and my mom, you know, was an entrepreneur and we're cheering that our friends on, that's like the best thing. I love promoting my friends' stuff because that's what is exciting to me. It is it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

But you know, I think uh a second part to that question, the bold step is being bold and stepping out there because I was always behind the scenes in the music business. Because yes, I was in the music business too, so I was always behind the scenes, but now putting yourself up front, there's so much vulnerability that comes with that, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Because now you're exposed, you're letting people in, you know, tons of exposure on the internet, and you have that you have to do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Yes, and we talked about that, yes, and so that was another bold step of during COVID. Like, I didn't have the models. I I was the model, I was the face to the brand, and now I'm I love it. I love, I love, love, love, love, love it. Telling my story because I think more women need to hear it. We need to hear that these types of stories in this, you know, this platform that you have.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

So again, it builds other women up, right? You know, some women may still be sitting on the bench not really understanding or you know, have the forethought to know how to get off the bench. Uh, and your story may help one or you know, many people and you know, and say, if Carla can do it, I can do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Look, I have the stories. Been, you know, been there, done that relationships, not, you know, trying to find myself. Who am I in this process? Who am I in this? Because you know, when you have a child that's in sports, your your name is not Carla. You're oh such and such mom. You know, we don't have names for a while. And uh and now, like I said, I've I have found my voice.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

You have your own identity now.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

My own identity. Thank you. I have my own identity in this. Yeah, I'm the founder of 8 Royale.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

I mean and that's a that's huge. You know, more and more women are running empires, you know. We have two females here, you know, one running the Panthers and one running the Charlotte Hornets. You know, you have a woman in power running Duke Power, um, which is you know huge. Um so women are doing doing big things these days.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

I I think so. And I it's funny, you know, when you were talking about that image of you and Randy being in New York and the women and their tennis shoes, I feel like I remember like that's like I remember seeing that like on the cover of a magazine, like women are starting to uh and you know, get involved in businesses and now they're going from day to night and that transition. And but truly finding things that are maybe a little bit more fashion forward, like Eight Royale, is something that we've all been craving, but we don't know how, but you know, where do you start? Yeah. And so, Carla, I think you're delivering a uh a really great product for people out there, for women out there that want to continue to present themselves well. And and you know, while tennis shoes are great and I wear them all the time, there is something nicer. You know, my grandfather would always say presentation is everything. I don't I don't necessarily know if I follow those rules all the time. I wear a hoodie and and pajama pants most of the time. Yeah, but I feel like you can dress tennis shoes up. Yeah. So I think that like finding ways to present yourself and so that you know because you do feel better when you look good. I mean, you just do. And and so I I think that uh that those are great things. All right, so let's talk about your son and football for a second. Okay, so is he playing football? Is he in college? Is he in the pros? Like what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Oh, he's done. I he's look, I I hope I still look in my 30s and 40s. Yes, definitely. Very youthful. Thank you. No, I have a 30-year-old now, so he is he's he's done his thing, he's graduated from college. Um, you know, he he went a different path after University of Iowa. So he did go to big Big Ten. Um, very proud of him with that. And now he's he's coaching, he's he's a teacher, he loves it. He got injured while he was at University of Iowa, and I think that kind of changed his focus. That uh he wanted to give back a little bit more than being injured and short term, and now it's long term for him. So he's coaching kids, and I I go and watch him coach, and I'm just he just reminds me of sometimes his dad when he's out there, his movements, and I'm like, wow, this is deja vu all over again. So I'm proud of him.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

That's wonderful. Well, coaches, I mean, uh getting for the youth out there to have a great coach, that is the best gift. So, as a uh, you know, I I think that's something to be really proud of, knowing that your son is out there mentoring and coaching and advising other other people's to be kind to other people's kids, I think is the best thing that anybody can do, because oftentimes they don't have somebody around them that's kind to them. So I think when coaches or other people are nice to other people's children, it really is a beautiful uh gift of love. So obviously, you have done many great things, Carla. In addition to being an entrepreneur and and working in construction, which I'm sure uh is uh a really fascinating. We'll have to have you back on to talk about the construction business.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Well, we have to talk about the music business. Her and I talked about that on the phone last night. She used to be affiliated with a little bit with Bad Boy Records, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Yeah, I was huge. Yeah. Oh, I had great stories with that. I manage an artist, so you're gonna have to have me back to talk about that other part. But um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Well, I'm so fortunate that Memory and Tara introduced us and put us, you know, in in the in this in the right path and and entered and did this introduction. And it's gonna turn out into a fabulous friendship.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yes, yes. And you know, just for the future of 8 Royale and where it's going, you know, it's a lifestyle brand, and that's what we and my team are trying to create, a lifestyle brand. So this is just the beginning of of 8 Royale. We're we're getting into accessories and all the cute things that go with with flats and shoes, and and a different style of shoes coming out too. So I'm really excited about that. So yeah, we may have to come back just to show it in June. Oh, definitely. All right.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Again, tell everybody if uh how to find you, whether it's social media, obviously mention your website again, and uh let everyone know how they can buy their shoes.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Oh, hi, okay. Yes, yes, yes. I'm Carla with 8 Royale, the founder of 8 Royale. You can check us out. You can check 8 Royale on all platforms with 8 Royale spelled out. E-I-G-H-T, R O Y A L E, um, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook. But uh, yeah, you could just go on my site, on the site itself and purchase. We are taking pre-orders. There are shoes on there for sale now, but we are selling out quickly. So go to 8 Royale again, E-I-G-H-T-R-O-Y-L-A-L-E.com, 8royale.com.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

I think we're gonna be busy after after we hang up with you, Carla. Looks like we gotta go check out, you know, some some 8 Royale shoes. I'm excited to see your new collection and we'll have you back on to uh showcase that. Yeah, and to talk about about your Philadelphia connection, because I understand there's a little bit of Philly in you. Same here.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah, it is. I love ooh, I love a Philly. I when I tell people that's my second team, they're like, what? And I'm like, okay, okay, it's the commanders. It's I grew up in Philly, you know, with back school there and yeah, yeah, good time.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

I love it. I love Philadelphia. I, you know, I mean, I'm a Philly girl, I don't live there anymore, but but I'm glad that I grew up there. I think that our our Philly grit is uh is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

It's a grit. It's a grit. And the person, there is a very good friend of mine that's from Philly, and he is actually the one that gave me the brainchild the idea of starting this flat line. He is the one that said, What do women need? And I'm like, who doesn't know what a woman needs but a man sometimes? Like, what do women need? Especially a Philly guy.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

I mean, of all people, we need a cheesesteak for sure.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

But those are good. Those are good.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Yes. And then we could walk it off with our eight royale shoes. If you're wearing high heels and you eat a cheesesteak, it's you can't walk very far. So the calories.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Yes. So yeah, so you know, I'm excited. I mean, I could talk and talk about so many different things and so many things, but you know, I just want women and men and people to understand that if you have the idea, you have the idea. Just do it. It's already started with the idea, and that's anything. So, you know, I want everybody out there to to live their best life and to live out their dream, you know, and and find their purpose in it.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

So well, that is beautiful, Carla. Thank you for joining us on another episode of Bench to Bold. I'm Marnie. And I'm Alisa. And uh we'll see everybody back here really soon.