Making More: The Podcast
Making More is hosted by engineering leader turned business and executive coach Billy Fischer and features innovative business leaders and visionary corporate executives in conversation about what's made them successful, how they've overcome challenges to be where they are today, and what "Making More" means to them.
Making More: The Podcast
10. Sabrina Shafer
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In this episode of Making More, Billy is joined by Sabrina Shafer—behavioral analyst, entrepreneur, attorney, and keynote speaker known for helping leaders turn complexity into competitive advantage. Drawing from her “Fear Forward” philosophy, Sabrina breaks down why the outcome doesn’t matter nearly as much as the willingness to show up scared and take action anyway.
Together, they explore what authentic leadership actually looks like inside high-pressure environments: how to reframe setbacks, build cultures of collaboration and psychological safety, and lead teams who don’t just perform—they think better under uncertainty. If you’re a business owner, sales leader, or executive navigating rapid change, this conversation is a masterclass in courage, character, and building momentum when the world won’t slow down.
Find out more about Sabrina on her website or on LinkedIn and Instagram.
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