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Making More: The Podcast
17. Kishan Patel, Prit Patel, & Nidhi Patel – Roots2Results
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In this special episode of Making More, Billy Fischer is joined by three high school entrepreneurs — Prit Patel, Kishan Patel, and Nidhi Patel — the founding team behind Roots2Results.
While most students are focused on getting through the week, these three are building a real business and solving important problems. Their story starts with something personal: helping their families navigate complicated business paperwork, financial decisions, and legal language that can be difficult to interpret. That lived experience turned into a mission — create tools and services that make it easier for small business owners to understand what they’re signing, what they’re paying for, and what their next best step should be.
Along the way, we also talk about what they’ve learned through the student-run retail operation Highlander Outfitters, where they’ve managed inventory, marketing, sales, and operations — getting a crash course in real-world execution before graduation.
In this conversation, we cover:
- How Roots2Results started and what problem they’re solving
- Why legal and financial jargon creates real barriers for business owners
- Their subscription-based concept and how they’re thinking about pricing and value
- What they’ve learned from running Highlander Outfitters behind the scenes
- What it means to lead and build while still balancing school, friends, and extracurriculars
Making More (their answers):
- Kishan: making more time
- Prit: making more connections
- Nidhi: making more impact
Learn more:
Roots2Results feature: https://vace.uky.edu/news/roots2results
LinkedIn (company): https://www.linkedin.com/sales/company/109166927
Find Billy on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/bigeyedfisch/ or visit his website, billyfischer.focalpointcoaching.com.
Welcome to Making More, the podcast where high-performing business owners and visionary executives share how they're building more than just bottom line. I'm your host, Billy Fisher, an engineering leader, turned business and executive coach, and I'm guided by a personal mission to help leaders create clarity, build forward momentum, and make more of what matters most. I'm excited for this one today. It is a first for making more. I have not one but three guests, three high school students from Eastern, DuPont Manual, and Floyd Central in southern Indiana and Louisville. And they are here to tell me all about their entrepreneurial vision for a company they've started while still in high school called Roots to Results. I'll introduce you three. It's Kishon, Freet, and Needy. Welcome to Making More. Excited to be here. Excited to be here. So go around the room real quick and just give me just the briefest of introductions to yourself, where you're where you're currently sitting within the organization that you all have created and how much school you've got left.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I can start out. So my name's Freet Patel. I'm a senior at Eastern High School, so I only have about two months left before graduation. I'm CEO of Roots to Results. My position consists of networking, uh building connections, trying to get outreach for and validation for our platform. Me and Keishon work side by side on this, trying to get our website validated, how to get production out, things like that.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I'm Keisha Battle. I'm a senior at Floyd Central High School down in southern Indiana. I have about two months left, like Breet, and I'm COO of Roots to Results. Like Breet said, I work on validation and networking and really trying to validate this idea.
SPEAKER_06I'm a junior at DuPont Manual High School, and I'm a I'm the CMO. I work on social media outreach and finding other outreach options.
SPEAKER_05Beautiful. So we have the C-suite here in attendance. I love that. I love that you all can create these opportunities for yourself. And so what led you, each of you, to um seek out this opportunity while still finishing up your high school studies? That's a little ambitious, I think.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, so I joined the University of Kentucky boot camp um August of last year. And I originally went in with an idea for a lithium battery uh removal. So removes the pollutants in lithium batteries. Uh, but I quickly pivoted my idea because I felt that this problem was much larger and more important, like more passionate to me. Uh, so the problem is that a lot of immigrant business owners lack access to financial literacy. So they don't understand the documents or professional advice that they've been given because it's in hard legal jargon that they don't understand. And so my parents have experienced this a lot, um, going back and forth at our accountant, looking through franchise documents, uh, understanding that if it's right or wrong for them, things like that. So I've had to step up and try and learn it all myself as a high schooler, which can be really difficult. So that's why I felt I needed to pivot and decided to solve this problem.
SPEAKER_00And that's also where Pre uh brought me along on to roots results. My parents are also immigrant business owners. And me, along with my siblings, have spent countless nights. I'm 17 right now, but going back to when I was maybe 10, we've been helping our parents when they're struggling to understand documents or what to do when getting loans and accessing capital. So that's where my passion for it comes from.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and um it's my brother. So we've gone through the same problems with our parents and we both help out with that. We thought this would be a better way to achieve that.
SPEAKER_05I'm sitting here imagining my five-year-old, who now in maybe five more years will have a command of the English language strong enough to help me with my business paperwork. And I just think that's incredible that your parents are leaning on you at such a young age to help with this because you are in school here in the States and you are learning things that even if it's not business topics, right? It it's it's English language, and you can help with the forms, what the forms say, what they mean, the layout of them, and all of that. It's just such an incredible thing. And I'm also taken back to a story. Uh, I don't know if you all know this or not, but Toyota, the company, formed because the founder wanted to help his parent out, who was uh she made fabric on a loom. And she was trying to he was trying to help make that a better process for her to make her life easier. And so he's he basically developed an automated loom for her. And so the lumen fabric business, big business, but now we know Toyota more for automobiles, right? And so um they they they've done okay for themselves. But I just think it's such a fun parallel to draw to what you all are doing now, wanting to help out your parents and your parents' colleagues and all immigrants that are trying to start businesses in such a way that this is now uh not just a an idea, but it's it's an organization that you have founded.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's a really cool story. I think I've seen that before, but it's great to hear again.
SPEAKER_05So tell me how AI kind of fits into this piece because AI is everywhere. I can't get away from it no matter who the guest is. We end up talking about AI a little bit on this podcast because it is just so prevalent right now. So, where are you all leveraging that technology to create what you are with this company?
SPEAKER_00So the AI part of it comes in from where immigrant entrepreneurs upload documents into our website. And so what we want to do is fine-tune an already pre-existing LLM and have it controlled to certain cities so it's accurate for each entrepreneur. Because Chat GBT and all these large language models pull data from all around the world. It's not city specific, and so that's what we want to fix. We want to make it so it's accurate for each individual city.
SPEAKER_05Local, locally sourced information and locally applicable, probably laws and guidelines. So that's good. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01And recently we just spoke about last week with a uh startup founder who is an immigrant from India, but because of his visa expiring soon, he had to shut down his startup. So he had to stop for now and then he got a job at a different company. But he's not allowed to keep doing his um startup, and he's trying, so he suggested to us to find a way for visa holders to also be able to understand business documents because currently we were just focusing on citizens, but it would be even more of an impact if we could figure out how to be able to help visa holders to also start their own businesses through this and give them advice on how to proceed with complicated aspects of why their visa could reject them from having their business or things like that.
SPEAKER_05I don't know the laws well enough with immigration to know is that a is that a pretty big barrier? I'm guessing maybe if you have a visa, it's for specific work and doesn't necessarily allow you the uh flexibility to go and start your own business sometimes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It can there's a lot of restrictions on it. So you would have to go around those um restrictions to be able to start it, but a lot of them get confused because of the language barrier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's different types of visas itself, but also if a company brings you on and gives you the visa to work at their company, they can also add their own custom restrictions, which many immigrants don't understand.
SPEAKER_05I see. The deck is stacked against them in so many ways. Yeah. I think that would be something to touch on a little bit here is kind of to tell your own stories from what your parents have done as business owners and entrepreneurs and what you have seen through that lens of just growing up in their households. What has that been like?
SPEAKER_01Uh so yeah, so it's been difficult at times, you know, but you know, learning at a young age what um grant forgiveness is through COVID-19, um, and trying to fill out all the paperwork for that, and then going back and forth with the accountant, trying to figure out if um when the tax return uh filing is due and stuff like that, going back and forth about that um has been difficult, but it's definitely taught me a lot. Um, I wouldn't be where I am today without that uh effort I put in for that and the perseverance that I gained through that.
SPEAKER_00I think it for me, it's taught me a lot about responsibility and like Freed said, perseverance. Um, I can't take all the credit for helping my parents. My elder brother's definitely done more of that. Um but going out throughout throughout high school and even middle school, it's put a lot of stress on me, combining with extracurriculars and sports, but it's taught me time management, how to help certain people when I need to and how to move on. Um, I've spent countless nights up past 12, especially with during COVID, trying to figure out how to work loans, how to talk to our accountant in order to get the right tax information they need to file. And it's just been a great responsibility put on me, but something that I'm proud of.
SPEAKER_06And I feel like it really gave me an early exposure to like business owning and all that goes into it and the hard work that goes into it and all obstacles you have to get over. Really taught me a lot about more than just business.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Like I said, I think the perseverance, the consistent theme throughout those three answers. So terrific. Thank you all for just sharing a little bit more of that. Kashawn, what sports?
SPEAKER_00So I used to do cross country and track, but right now I play school and club volleyball.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh, terrific. Yeah, I'll actually then got into volleyball.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'll actually be coming up to Columbus, I think next or two weeks from now to play Columbus East.
SPEAKER_04So oh nice, very good. The Olympians, very good.
SPEAKER_01I play tennis at Eastern 2. You do, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay, pretty good?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the season's just starting up, so it's been a little time consuming, but big aspirations for your senior season here? Uh hopefully. All right, well, congratulations. Good luck. Thank you.
SPEAKER_06I play lacrosse at my school.
SPEAKER_05Whoa, lacrosse. I didn't even know lacrosse when I was in high school. It wasn't so prevalent as it was in uh in Louisville, but in I went to Providence High School. So kind of like Kishon's arch rival. Um but yeah, we didn't have lacrosse, and I I still don't think they do today. Uh, does Floyd Central have lacrosse? Floyd Central, no, we don't have lacrosse yet. That's terrific.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, lacrosse is very big in Louisville.
SPEAKER_05Yes. I uh you can get a good college scholarship playing lacrosse. I saw some some kids in Florida when I went to school in Florida um playing and oh my gosh, what a it's just such an intense sport. Yeah, it's uh fast-paced and just intense. So congratulations. All three of you playing sports and completing your studies. Any college aspirations or does college take a backseat for business startup? What what kind of becomes the next step for you all?
SPEAKER_00So um right now I'm it really doesn't take a back seat. Yeah, I'm just trying to do everything at once, which might be a smart idea. But I've I've been admitted into IU Kelly, which is probably well ago. Yes, Ivy League Day is on the 26th this this month. So we'll see what happens there.
SPEAKER_05But oh yeah, you said Ivy League Day? Yes. Are there some applications in for Ivy League schools? Yeah, seven out of eight Ivy's. Oh my goodness. Well, that's terrific. That's gotta be a little bit of a stressful time waiting to hear that in the next few weeks, isn't it? Definitely, yeah. But I'm hopeful so congratulations. Did a part of the application involve sharing the story of Rooster Results? Oh, for sure. All right, leverage that, absolutely. That's great. Breet, how about for you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so uh I got in early decision to University of Pennsylvania Wharton um business. So I'm planning to go there um in the fall for business and finance. Okay.
SPEAKER_05The Wharton School. I I've I've definitely seen your year of the Wharton School. It's one of the best around. So congratulations for that. Thank you. And Needy, what year are you?
SPEAKER_06Um, I'm a junior right now, so I haven't started applying it.
SPEAKER_05That's okay. That's all right. You got some chief marketing stuff to work on, so that's quite all right. Terrific. This is exciting times. So, um, how do you think that the college experience, regardless of where it ends up being, will shape the continuing foundation of this company that you started?
SPEAKER_00I think I think colleges will only boost us even more. As we're high schoolers right now, we're really limited on what we can do and who we have access to. Going into college, especially at Kelly and Wharton, um, two major finance and business schools and just colleges overall, we'll definitely be able to leverage the network we get from them, but as well as like the academic skills we learn.
SPEAKER_05And then help help help me remember, because I think you've told me before, but like is the is the website, is the tool currently live where people can use it and experience the um being being customers of research results today, or is it still in beta?
SPEAKER_01Uh it's still in beta testing. Um, we plan to get out a validation page within the next couple of weeks uh to have a demo on there and get people's to sign up and like prove the validation for our product. Um we've proven validation in our local community, but we want to get further outreach.
SPEAKER_04Fantastic.
SPEAKER_05Will it be a subscription model?
SPEAKER_01Uh yes, we plan to have a subscription model. Uh prices are still in testing, but uh once a lower features come out, pricing will adjust.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Good.
SPEAKER_05I think the value that it provides to a potential recurring customer where they can almost take your company on as like an advisor or a a coach, right? And have that relationship that they're building. Not only are they getting access to the model that you all have created, but then they are starting to, you know, get their own traction with it. They're they're teaching it all about their own business and all about their needs, and then it grows, right? That that's how all of these language models work. The more you use them, the the greater a narrative it has to build around. Yeah. What have you learned about researching markets and kind of finding your niche in in this this space so far?
SPEAKER_00So uh you want key. Yeah, I can take this. So when we first started Roots Results, we knew we wanted to target immigrant entrepreneurs. Um, so I mean it's a wide, wide market, of course. But as we talk to people, as we researched more and more, we learned that when you start a business, you can't capture a whole market. You have to start small and progressively go from there. And so we wanted to work with our direct community, the Indian immigrants in Louisville, but also in the tri-state area. And so that's kind of how we closed it down into a more smaller market, especially with hotels, because that's what our parents are in the hot uh business of. But I think a major thing we also learned is from the UK boot camp we're part of, we've gotten access to a lot of different startup entrepreneurs, a lot of CPAs, accountants, and whatnot. And they've really been helpful in our research.
SPEAKER_01And just to add on to that, um, so we've been trying to connect with Ahoa board members, the Asian American Hotel Owners Association. Um, and since their members own about 62% of all hotels in America, um, we really want to build a strong relationship with them to see uh the validation of our product and how need how the need for our product is, because a lot of immigrant entrepreneurs are within that um convention and community center.
SPEAKER_05That is an incredible statistic. You said 62%, 68%? 62 62% of all hotels fall into this population. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_05What do you think is the kind of the ultimate five-year plan for the organization for the business? Are you you wanting to hire? Are you wanting to build your tool to greater capabilities? What are kind of the things that you want to accomplish in the next five years while you all are in college?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I'll start off. Um, Break and go on from here, but right now we just want to have our AI platform out there. We want to start basic, we want to start small, we want to validate our solution because we're we fell in love with the problem. That's a saying I've heard. Fall in love with your problem, not the solution. And so that's that's what we want to do. We want to start by just testing the solution, testing the waters, see how it goes. But I think in five years, we really want to have a more national presence. We want to work with not just the Indian community, but other immigrant groups because there's businesses everywhere. I mean, everywhere you go. And I think another plan for us is to work with CPAs and lawyers, because they can, if they can only speak English, that's their community, that's the target market they have. But if they can use roots results and work with other communities, they have a much greater market that they can tap into, but also help the migrant entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER_01And just to add on to that, um so we want to build builder connect uh connections like with Ahoa, um other conventions uh that happen, other community groups within the across the United States, in other uh metropolitan cities, um, get the full product out, maybe get around 100,000 users, uh try and uh hire more employees um to work on our web development uh for beta testing, get the full product out.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Good actual, tangible next steps. I like it. It may be perception on my part. I'm not an immigrant, um, but it just seems that there is a greater percentage, a greater ratio of business owners amongst the immigrant community. Is that something that you all have experienced? Do you think that is like is that defendable with data? Or is that just a misconception that I think that more immigrants go into business ownership versus just W-2 employment at some large corporation?
SPEAKER_00I think from our research, we've seen that I think one in five new businesses are immigrant-owned. Um, so it's definitely a growing population. But thinking just about like the the idea, like the ideas of immigrants, they come here for the greater opportunity to become successful. And I think they were instilled at a young age that they need to own their own career, and that's where a lot of businesses come from.
SPEAKER_01And especially um and especially in the indie community, um, it's typically seen that they own businesses instead of uh working a regular nine to five job as it gives they feel it gives them more freedom over their own finances.
SPEAKER_05More ownership and more freedom. I think that's that's a great way to put it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What do you think has been the hardest part about starting this business while you're all in separate high schools?
SPEAKER_00Um I think communication that's definitely been the Biggest thing. We all have our own schedules. He has an internship at a real estate company right now, which takes up a lot of time. We're all doing sports, like we said earlier. And so communication is the biggest thing. And I say our limited knowledge as well, because it's, I mean, we're always learning, but we don't have the biggest knowledge base in business itself, but also in software development and aspects like that.
SPEAKER_01I feel like the biggest problem for us has been also is that our goal is to be able to give the American dream for our immigrant entrepreneurs. And so just trying to make sure that we're achieving our goals and trying to provide the best service for them has also been difficult because of our lack of knowledge on the web development areas and trying to build connections with the web developers to get the best product out there.
SPEAKER_05Very good. Is that a good segue to give a shout out to your other co-founder that's not able to join us today? Is he perhaps the one that is doing some of that web development? Or is that falling on your old shoulders?
SPEAKER_01We've been working on it mainly. Um he's been having, he's been pretty busy recently, so he hasn't been able to um focus on this recently. So it's mainly been us three.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05That's fair. And so do you all do the web development yourself? Are you finding partners to support that with? Or is it is it just kind of a grassroots effort, roots pun intended there?
SPEAKER_01Uh so recently we've been working with um multiple web developers and we're cross-shopping right now, um, trying to find which product uh which who who which developer could provide us the best product and um just working with that right now.
SPEAKER_05Very good. Okay. So not uh not someone that holds a a chief seat in the organization yet, no chief developer. No, not yet, not yet. All right, that's all right. In time, you will have where you've found support, uh whether it's through mentorship, your your student faculty, or in in community with your fellow immigrants, where where are you finding that that ability to just lean on these uh people that are a little bit older and have a little bit more experience to share with you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think I would say we have a lot of mentors. We with the UK boot camp, we've gotten so many people we've been able to talk to, but one from AHOA, um, the organization we talked about earlier, the board member on them on one of the regions has talked to us constantly about our idea. And he's given us some harsh feedback that we needed. That's definitely that's definitely big because that's something we we're not really experienced with. We're not experienced in this making a startup, and I think it's really been helpful. Um, if Free wants to talk about the UK boot camp.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so the in the boot camp, um, we also get like legal advice. Um, our professor for the class has also been very helpful. Um, she guides us through our weekly meetings on uh budgeting, um, how to do web development, things like that. So we've been working on that from the lessons we get. Uh we meet a lot of guest speakers, so we've been connecting with them on LinkedIn. Um, I just spoke to one of them. Um he's a web developer who built his own startup, so that's where uh I was getting ideas for our validation page from him too.
SPEAKER_05Needy, anybody that you've leaned on for support throughout this?
SPEAKER_06I think we've also gotten a lot of good feedback from the web developers we've talked to about how to actually go about the process and tweaks that we should make to our design.
SPEAKER_05Terrific. And what do your parents think of of this endeavor? Are they supportive? Are they are they skeptical? Or is it is it just a nothing but support kind of a model they're taking with you?
SPEAKER_00I think I think it would just be a mix of everything. They're supportive of us making our own business because they've been through the same thing. They're supportive of us, of her trying. But I think what we've seen in the immigrant community, a little bit with our parents, they're always hesitant. So about the I about the idea, they're always hesitant about trying it. Um years have gone past where my parents have tried to do everything themselves and not reach out to get other help, and that's kind of where this comes in too, which I think is a struggle we're gonna have trying to grow roots results, but I think it's something we can overcome.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01I agree for sure. Um same with my parents. Uh, they are supportive of the idea because they came here with nothing and started their businesses from scratch. Um, so they definitely believe that hard work pays off. It's just um they're a bit hesitant when it comes to us.
SPEAKER_05That's fair. If I can share one bit of advice from my own parent, my mom, her her favorite saying was, he who hesitates is lost. And so I just encourage you, you all, as you continue to build this, trust yourself and and don't hesitate. Just lean into what you're doing and take those steps very confidently because you're you're doing great.
SPEAKER_00I love that advice.
SPEAKER_05What do you think? You see, you know, young entrepreneurs aren't so rare in this day and age. They are very prevalent. A lot of entrepreneurs are young, maybe not in high school, but young. So, what do you what do you think are some misconceptions people have about young entrepreneurs?
SPEAKER_01Um, so I think the main problem is that they may not think we're experienced enough or lack the knowledge um to be able to launch a product like this. So they're hesitant on how we structure our team or how we delegate our tasks or how we're going about developing our product. Um, so like a couple of the people I've spoken to um have commented on that, like how our team may not be the most um like structured that well, which in some cases they are, right? But I feel like we are also just starting out, so there are bound to be some problems, but I feel like we still have the knowledge to be able to um grow and be able to start this project ourselves.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think that's a perfect um comment about your question. And I would also say, I know we're not going to talk about too much, but the Highlander Outfitter store. I think something like that has also done wonders for students to just learn about starting a business. Because what we do is we handle everything from inventory to marketing to sales and everything in between. And that really teaches students how to handle stuff by themselves, which is something that most people are concerned with, like saying that if students can even handle a business or if they can even go network outside. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Needy, anything to add there?
SPEAKER_06I feel like some people may think that younger people are less dedicated to the task, like it's just something they're doing on the side. But I feel like we're really putting like main of our main focus on this.
SPEAKER_05I think that's such a big piece and it's overlooked. I think uh, and especially as my generation looks down upon those that are in school now, um, like you know, we kind of came through school just at the start of the internet age, right? Where we didn't have access to that necessarily in grade school, in elementary school. Um, but now everything, my my son in kindergarten has a tablet and knows how to use it and gives it on YouTube. And so we try and monitor this, right, and just focus on what is appropriate for his age group to consume. But still, it is like just a vast resource of information that's out there and available. And so, again, that you get that kind of miss misnomer that your generation maybe isn't able to focus as well or can't be as dedicated to any one thing because they are just so easily distracted, right? I think that's the that's the misnomer. But you're saying that you all are kind of able to overcome that. What are you doing to overcome that right now? I'm so curious.
SPEAKER_06I feel like we have like weekly meetings to like regroup every like Sunday or so, just to like make sure we're on track and make a plan for the next week just to be consistent.
SPEAKER_00And I would say just internally as well, um, every student or most students I've talked to, most students I've known are just driven. I feel like people don't see that, but they're motivated by themselves, they want to have success, and that's something that really pushes them.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I love that, and I love that it's still there. I think you always have those individuals that are driven, and I love to hear that it's possible to come out okay and even as a student right now, right? Like you you three are an example of it, but I think as parents, we worry that it is it possible even to learn to become motivated to do something greater in this day and age. And I think you're proving that absolutely yes, with the right education and the right support system, it is. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01For sure.
SPEAKER_05All right, the title question of the podcast. You all can answer this collectively, or you can answer it individually. I will leave it up to you. But the question is making more blank is most important to you at this point in your life and career.
SPEAKER_00I would say that's a hard question, of course, and I guess that's why you're asking it. But making more time has been the most important thing of this year, just because, especially because we're high school students, everything that's been going on this year from schoolwork to the seats results, the extracurriculars, to just spending time with friends, especially since it's my priest's senior year, that's been the most important thing. Because that just gives us access to all the opportunities we need instead of being closed off and stuck doing homework or closed off and stuck doing just roots to results. And so I think Tom.
SPEAKER_01Uh for me, I think it's been making more connections has been most important to me this year. Um my parents are worried that I'm moving like 12 hours away for college, but I feel like award and education would give me the connections I need to be able to grow this business. Um, connections would be the most important thing to be able to validate our idea, um, grow our idea, see the future of our idea. So I just think uh making more connections would be the most important for us currently.
SPEAKER_06I think it'd be making more impact, like making sure I'm spending my time on something that actually matters, like working towards something, making progress on anything.
SPEAKER_05Three terrific answers, three exceptional students and three incredible business owners. Thank you all so much. Do you have any final just advice for the entrepreneur out there that's watching this that needs a little bit of a pick-me-up to take some of what you all are driving and use it for themselves? Any advice?
SPEAKER_01Uh just make sure what the business you're working on is what you're passionate about. If you don't have any passion in it, there's no point in doing it. But if you really know there's a problem and you're striving to do your best to be able to help others, um, I think that's the most important part.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I would say just give it your all. I mean, there's been times where certainly all of us have tried to put this in the backseat, but that's not going to work out. You really have to like reach that, be passionate about what you're doing and give it your time and effort, and you'll see progress.
SPEAKER_06I feel like you should like make a plan, make sure like you know your next steps so you're always moving forward.
SPEAKER_05Perfect. We will end it on that. Kishan, Preet, and Needy, thank you so much for your time. It's been a pleasure to have you on this episode of Making More. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for listening to Making More. If today's conversation sparks something in you, let's connect. You can find me on LinkedIn and threads at coachfisherfpt or by visiting Billyfisher.focalpointcoaching.com to learn more about how I help leaders create clarity, build momentum, and make more of what matters. This recording is copyrighted by Engineers Consulting Incorporated. Until next time, take care.