Pickles & Pasta EP34 - Mindset, Momentum & Mental Loops

Episode 34 - Mindset, Momentum & Mental Loops

In Episode 34 of Pickles and Pasta, Jay and Steph begin by reflecting on the close of Steph’s solo show and what it feels like to wrap something meaningful with a sense of peace, pride, and readiness for what comes next.

From there, the conversation turns to mindset, how the way we think shapes the way we work, create, and move through daily life. Steph shares a mindfulness idea that reframed things for her in a powerful way: maybe it is not just a negativity problem, maybe it is an algorithm problem in the brain. That sparks a deeper conversation about overthinking, mental loops, gratitude, and the importance of consciously shifting your focus toward thoughts that energize rather than drain you.

Jay builds on that by connecting mindset to repetition, prayer, meditation, concentration, and the habits that help people stay grounded. Together, they explore how our inner dialogue affects confidence, creativity, and emotional resilience, especially when life and work feel heavy. They also reflect on manifestation, discipline, the value of practice, and why small mental shifts can change the way we experience everything.

The episode closes with a playful rapid fire on AI, adventure, and the things they would and would not want technology to do for them.

Topics Covered:

• Closing a chapter and moving on with peace
• Why mindset matters in work and life
• Overthinking, mental loops, and “algorithm” thinking
• Mindfulness, gratitude, and shifting your focus
• The connection between repetition, belief, and momentum
• How inner dialogue affects creativity and resilience
• Rapid fire: AI, adventure, and personal preferences

Your mindset shapes more than your mood, it shapes your energy, your work, and the way you move through the world.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Hey, and welcome to this week's episode of Pickles and Pasta.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

With Steph and Jay.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Perfectly said, my Steph.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Jay?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Alrighty. There you go. Steph and Jay doing a podcast. Actually, maybe that'll be the jingle. Steph and Jay doing a podcast. No. I don't think so. I really think I would have had a great career as a jingle person. Quite frankly. I really that I missed my calling on that one. Anyway, back in New York. Back in New York, we had a quick little little trip back to PA to take down the amazing show, which is sad and good and happy. It's kind of an it's a weird feeling. Um how did actually just curiosity? I'm sure the audience would love to know. Like, well, how did it feel for you? Because I've had this type of experience in different things before. This is kind of a little I don't know, how did it feel?

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Well, I think the the last year when I had the first solo show a year ago, that felt more strange than this one did.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

This one was, you know, it was very different, obviously. It was my the past 20 years of my work. And I just feel like it was great, and I'm just now ready to to move on. And so it just feels like a closure. But I feel like I got the word out. I've had so many people reach out to me. I mean, I even got a letter in the mail today before we left of a girl I went to high school with thanking me for sharing my work with the community. And like, what a sweet thing to do. So I just I feel very content. I don't feel weird at all.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Yeah, I I thought, look, I mean, I think the show was phenomenal, no question. But I and I think we got a re a lot of great feedback, like a lot of people, like everybody that went, like you know, messaged or said something, or someone said they served from somebody else, whatever. And we have some people very interested in in buying some of the art. So I think it's it's a great experience. It was great. We really, really, I don't know if where everybody is, but I know we have a number of friends and listeners in Pennsylvania and in New York. So yesterday was just not a nice day, weatherwise. I know I always talk about weather, I feel like I'm a closet weatherman, but we were like looking at the weather, 100% chance of rain, tornado watch, gusting wind, whatever. And we got really lucky. Like we got a really good pocket where like we were able, they would they gave us a different entrance that we could go into to unload. We got there, we would dry, we had we bought tarps in the morning, like ready. We were so ready. Like, we have to do this, we have to get back to New York. And we really lucked out, and then we went, we had to drop stem off at World, and then we had to take the rest back to the house, and we had it timed, we organized, and we got in the house, we were like it was really threatening a rain, and then we had to take the last piece, which is the biggest piece, which is on canvas, but it's a big piece. It's not and it's on canvas, like it's not like on a flat piece, for those of you who don't know. It's like it's a piece of wood, and there's like stakes in it, so it's like sitting there, like kind of loose on the canvas. And we get it out of the truck. You were inside, you didn't see this. We get it out of the truck, Amanda and I, and of course, a wind comes, and it literally like started pulling pushing us onto the lawn. Like, I was like, Amanda, where are you going? She's like, I can't stop. And luckily, we like destabilized ourselves, and then we had to kind of get it in and turn it so that the wind was going. I mean, we got it in, but it was like it was just like, of course, the last piece is gonna like give us trouble. So, but um, we got it done, no damages, everything good, everybody survived. So just it's uh yeah, we got we got very, very lucky. We got very, very lucky.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

So um the last moment.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Yeah, really, right up literally up to the last minute. It was like, I mean, because that would have been hilarious if we would have started like flying away, like not, like not, but it would have been pretty funny. So um, anyway, so we made it. The paintings are great, everything is great, good feedback. You know, it gives good momentum to kind of move to the next thing, and it gives us a good story to tell people. Like, we really have something to talk about, which I think is the most important thing. And and anybody in business knows that whenever you do, whenever you try to do something, or it's like, well, what have you done? Well, what can you show me? Like, well, how's it you know, having this, having good feedback, it's something you know, we'll work on that, we'll work on the marketing materials on that. But I think it's a positive thing. So, you know, congratulations, obviously, to you. And you know, it's uh it's great stuff. If you haven't seen any of the clips or anything, they're on they're on Steph's Instagram. You can see you know, some of the the talk that she did at the opening and some really good good some videos and some photos. So, you know, check it out. If you if you didn't get a chance to see the show, check it out. Even if you didn't get to see the show, check it out.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

That went along with it.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Good old Drew came through in the clutch boy. That kid's a rock star. He was a rock star.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah, he was really great. Um, okay, so we're gonna dive right in. Interesting topic we've kind of thought about as it comes into play, and I think not just with us, but I think it, you know, when we think about these things, obviously we're this whole thing started because people told us, you know, you guys should talk about what you guys do, and you know, the fact that you're partners and partners in life, partners in business, you guys live together, all this kind of stuff. Okay, sure, obviously that makes that makes sense, and that's how we started. But we also think about like, okay, is anybody gonna care, you know, outside of that? We try to find that the balance between, yes, we're creatives, but you know, there's people around the world that are not necessarily in the creative space. They may be creative people, but they're not working in art or film or or any of their things. We think about like, okay, is this gonna land properly? And and something that's come up a lot is mindset. And because that's not just something that creatives have, obviously. It's you know, getting into a mindset or adjusting a mindset or all the different things around that, like and how that affects your daily life, how that affects your business life, your family life, whatever. And so we just kind of wanted to chat a little bit about that, like how you know Steph, how how that Steph experiences that, how I experienced that.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

So maybe Yeah, I'll definitely you know, start start it off. And it kind of came to me because I mean basically, I am a person who studies about mindfulness, for example, and how much we do things without really being mindful of how our how our mind is functioning. You know, what if we're focusing too much on something positive or too much on something negative, and how it can really loop you into a space that you is not productive. And you know, as a designer and an artist and an entrepreneur, my mindset is incredibly important. You know, yes, it's great to have the skills to do certain jobs and create certain entities and think through strategy, but you know, it's also important to have a sense of how you're navigating things with your the way you're thinking. And it came to me a couple of weeks ago, my daughter Allegro shared something with me on Instagram, and it was something I saw, but I I wanted to click into it. And it was basically this expert on mindfulness, and he was talking about how if you're a person who overthinks things a lot and maybe goes into a negative mind space, it's not that you have a negativity problem. He posed it that your brain has an algorithm problem. And I thought that that was really, I hadn't heard it that way. You know, because we we hear all these things all the time that are supposed to help us. And sometimes hearing something phrased in a different way with different language kind of clicks. And for some reason, hearing that concept of the algorithm clicked for me. I don't know if you want to add anything here because this is a little bit of a long thing. Anything to add right now?

SPEAKER_00 8:49

No, you're doing great. I just it's I'm just smiling because it I when people talk about the brain and algorithm, and they kind of go back and forth, like, well, did the algorithm affect the brain? Did the brain affect the algorithm? And I just I find that stuff. I just you know I could get into all that philosophy.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Yeah, and and that's why I wanted this pause because you are more scientifically, you just have a brain that handles tech and science a little bit more than a lot more than I do. And so I just thought I'd pause there when the algorithm phrase came up because we were chatting about this in the car, and I think I said to you, Well, I I'm guessing that that's how they came up with algorithms. It must be part of the way the human brain functions, you know, and so it so in turn in terms of what this guy was sharing, he said that there are exercises that you could do, and I I literally did one. So what you do is you mark a minute on your stopwatch or your your phone, and for one minute, you say out loud separate things that you're happy about or you're excited about or positive things, because we want to turn the the mindset, the algorithm in our mind to to give us more positive things instead of oh, I've got instead of all the problems, you know. And I think a lot of people in business tend, because we have to deal with the problems, if you don't deal with the problems, you're gonna have more problems. So, you know, and those of us who are working and creating our own companies and, you know, working hard in the in with our careers, you know, there's a always a lot of things to attend to. And sometimes you can get in this loop of, oh, another problem, another problem. And according to this guy, the more you focus on all the problems, the more problems are gonna appear because your brain is telling itself, oh, these this is important, this this kind of information is important to this person. So then you have all these additional thoughts. And I can totally relate to that. I mean, there are sometimes as I'm going to bed at night, I am thinking of all the things that I have to do the next day, and I literally can't get to bed because after I solve one thing in my brain, it gives me another one. And then it gives me another one. And sometimes I'm like, Jesus, you know, like I need my brain to-you brain's trying to help you, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:18

It's trying to say, well, let's get ahead of the day. Let's get ahead of tomorrow. You got so much to do tomorrow, let's get some of it done tonight.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

It's probably in a way, maybe doing that. So this exercise is to mark a minute and to say out loud. It's not to say it under your breath, it's like literally to say out loud a sentence that you're excited about. So for instance, I did that the other day when I I thought, you know, I'm gonna try this. I'm not just gonna like read or listen to this thing that she sent me. I'm actually gonna do the thing. I mean, how long can it take? You know, a couple minutes. So I did. And I know it's gonna probably sound a little contrived, but as I was saying the sentences and meaning them, like one was, I'm so grateful that, you know, my daughters actually like me and want to reach out to me with with good news. And suddenly I felt this little tiny like like er like a surge of happiness, serotonin. And then I said another one, and it was right after I just read your fabulous business plan for Village, and I literally said out loud, I am so proud that my partner is so brilliant. And I felt like this little surge of I can't describe it exactly, but it felt like happiness or excitement or just feeling like feeling good. And I did that for a minute, and then it said, you know, if you do it for a minute, then do another minute. And when I was done, it I just felt good and I felt like positive, and I felt like, oh, I'm ready to go get to work. So it was just it was a little tiny experiment, but there is something to it.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Yeah, so the reason I'm I smile at this stuff, and I think it's great. I I I I all that stuff is great. I mean, um and I'm thank you, it's very kind of you to you know to say these things about me. And thank you, it's not necessary, but I appreciate it. But none of this is new. I mean, algorithms technically, like computers are new-ish. And okay. And obviously, algorithms and computers are based on what the human brain could do and think, and we can take this, and we take the brain, and we make it do this. It's just like a car is you know, horses, cars, like, you know, soap, planes, trains, automobiles, etc. So we've been told these things literally from the beginning of time. I'll even go back to biblical, I'm not gonna get religious or anything, but like back to biblical stuff about saying something grateful. Like prayers are to be grateful every day. They're not like, can I get a new toy? They're like, I'm grateful that I woke up this morning, I'm grateful for the food that I'm eating, I'm grateful for the clothes on my back. Like it's all this sort of stuff which we're trained, and then beyond that, to psychiatrists and psychologists, and you know, in the 1800s and the early 2000s, in the 60s, in the series of like someone saying this, breathe, do these things, and then what's interesting to me is that we've we know this, we've heard this before, and then we do it, and then we don't, and then somebody else comes up with a slightly different way of saying it, like, ah, that's the thing, and then we go do that. It almost feels a little bit like like cold medicine, you know. Like I don't buy for two seconds that by 2026, all the incredible breakthroughs, it was not possible to come up with a cure for the common cold. Like, stop it, like just stop it. But the money's in the medicine. So it's it's the type of thing, like the people that know this, that are at that higher, higher, higher, higher, higher level, they tell us a little bit, and then it works for a little bit and goes forward. But I will say that for myself almost almost everybody that I know, yourself included, and you've done this before, right? You've manifested, you've done this before, yeah, very, very successfully, that when you're able to get your mind into that place, which doesn't happen the first time, usually, right? Like they tell you you should meditate, meditate five minutes a day, meditate and then whatever. The first time it's tricky. I mean, it just is. But if you really put your mind to it, pun intended, you really can see the difference in your life. You really can see the difference in the work that you're doing, whatever it is, right? It could be your life, like people that want a relationship, people that want to get in better shape, people, whatever it is, if they really just say the thing, however they do it, right? Like they say, you know, you should wind down before you go to sleep, which is easier said than done for both of us. And then you should, as you're going to sleep, say things in your mind, peaceful things, grateful things, positive things, not oh, what am I gonna do tomorrow? You know, which it's the truth it's tricky, right? Because you have a lot of stuff to do. We gotta get up, we gotta do this. It's hard to say, I'm gonna just totally dismiss that and I'll deal with it in the morning. It's it sounds nice. But if you can work on those little things, it's incredible the impact it has. And it's the same thing when you do your art. It's the same thing if you're a computer programmer or or developer and you're working on something, get that in your mind. I'm gonna, I'm gonna crack this code, I'm gonna figure out how to get through this, I'm gonna make this thing work. You say it over and over and over again, all of a sudden something happens. You see something that you didn't see, you feel something you didn't feel. And I think it's I think it's I think anybody that does it, I encourage it. I mean, not the foo-foo stuff, right? Like there's stuff that's just okay, silliness. But the stuff that really is based on science and really because there is that, right? I mean, they look, you know the thing that I do, which I don't I don't, you know, I sometimes I'm not as good as others, but you know, that that five-second thing, you know, of just what it does to your brain and how that helps. Like, there's different things that you do.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Wait, what's the five-second thing? I don't remember what what explains.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

This is a thing that that that our producer asked me afterwards. He's like, How is it? It it apparently is there's an exercise that if you just basically count for four to five seconds, some people say four seconds, some people say five seconds. I do five seconds. You do nothing else, but you just do this counting, it strengthens your brain in some in some way. Like it really, there's there's a it's a specific exercise that if you just do it for a certain amount of time every day, you just you know count like one, two, like and with nothing else. Like you gotta like nothing else. You're just focused on doing that. Your brain goes into this concentration mode around that, and it enables you to kind of concentrate better and focus better beyond the the time that you do it. So it's one of the few little, you know, I do my prayers and I do this and I do that, and that's one of the things I do, I do every day.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Um, well, I'm just finding out about this right now.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Well, it's quiet time, it's in my quiet, like you know, you see me in the morning when I have my coffee and stuff like that, and I just do certain things. I sit there, I do, I do other things, which interestingly I've done. It's very interesting to me how I've done this since I was a child. I will I will count backwards from a certain number. And I can't explain, I don't remember exactly when it started, but I'll just do it. And I remember, like, you know, when I was, let's say, doing bad things and I thought like my father was gonna come by or something's gonna happen, I would count down from this number expecting that that's when it's gonna happen. Uh or something else. And I would do that. And I and I do it to this day. Like I do it to this day. It's one of those things I do every morning.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

What is the number that you count down from?

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Give away all my secrets on air.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Um it's it's usually 30 um when I'm counting down. I've done 30 and I've done 10. Um, and when I count up, I'm I'll count usually to 60.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Oh, okay. Do you ever count down around anything with me? Like, oh, she's coming in the room, and I'm yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

No, because I can feel when it's coming. Uh, you don't have I don't have to count. When something's coming, I know it's coming. Um no, but that so okay, so the counting thing, now that you want to talk about it, I think. Uh let me explain this a little bit deeper. Because I was really, really good at it, I was really, really, really good at this for a while, like really good. And I'm just I'm not as good at it, right? I have to work on that a little bit. So I did this thing where I would count to a certain number. It was could be 18, it could be 36, could even be to 60, which was tricky. And all I would think about, or when I did it when I was in Miami for a while, I would look for the number, which was really intense, like in a positive, intense way. So I would count one, and all I could well I would focus on was literally the number one. So I'd see the number one, only one. And then when I said two, I would only think of the number two. I wouldn't think of anything but literally the number two, and then three, and then on. That's it. That's all you think about. You don't think about three eggs, you don't think about five hens, you don't think about eight cars, think about eight, and you just say you count to eight, so like one, two, three, eight, and all you're seeing is the number eight. And it puts you in like a fairly deep meditation without being like if someone comes up on you, you'll know that. But it's it's a deep concentration thing. I'm sure someone else has thought about this and has a name for it and is probably charging billions of dollars to teach people about it. I just came up on it on my own. I don't know where I came up on it. I just started doing it. I was like one, and I just kept doing it. And it was a very healthy thing because it took me away for that amount of time. Like nothing, you know, no phone, no nothing. And you know, but again, what's it for? It's to get my mind to be in a certain place. It's to get my mind get me to calm now so that when it's go time or when I have to okay now I have to get back to work, or I have to work on that thing, or I have to get that proposal done, or I have to figure out the solution to this issue. It it's it it gets you sharper. That's the idea. It's it's really to get you sharper. So

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Well, I know that I often will do box breathing or other types of deep, deep breathing to maybe it's you know, maybe it's a very short meditative situation where I want to kind of just clear myself or I want to calm down, or when I want to calm down to the level of being able to fall asleep, I have been using these different breathing techniques. And you know, to your point that none of this is new, yeah, I totally agree with you. Like honestly, I don't know, maybe like 15 years ago, I went to a yoga retreat, but like an intense yoga retreat with Isha Yoga out in LA, and it was with um Sadhguru, who is a very famous international guru. And you know, we sat on our on the floor all weekend long and were learning meditative instruction from him, and a lot of the things that he talked about were so simple, and there's stuff that just you know, he could be speaking to a child, yet he was speaking to a room filled with you know business people and you know, a lot of really smart people were at this retreat, which was and he was saying the most the most uh you know simplistic things, yet it all made so much sense. So I agree, none of this is new, but for some reason, like we need to be reminded.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Yeah, it's it's like everything, right? It's like spring cleaning, it's like the stuff like this is you know, we've talked in the past about having routines. Like there's something about kind of reminding ourselves, rewiring ourselves, because it's natural that we go off course. It's very it's really easy to say stick to this routine every day, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, whatever. Look, when I uh when I do my prayers and I do every day, which I did as a child and then I didn't, and then I did have done again recently. And I'm not concentrating 100% every day and every time. I'm not. My mind's going in a million different places. I'm not, I happen to know what I'm saying for the most part. So I mean, I understand the translation. The most part I know what I'm saying, and I feel it, and I'm grateful, and I do all the things I do, and I ask for forgiveness and all the stuff that I do, but there are times that my mind is just in a million other places, like it's just not there. And I somehow have this feeling that it doesn't matter. And what I mean by like, it doesn't matter, like like obviously I have a certain belief that I'm I'm I'm praying to some per thing, and that it's okay. Like I almost hear, I hear the words being like, I know you're not totally here right now, but you did this, and so it counts. And and I think there's something to that. Like, there's something about even with the stuff that we do, you stick to it, right? Like, so if you say you're gonna meditate every day for five minutes, you meditate every day for five minutes. And if you didn't do a good job today, so what? You go back and do it again tomorrow. Like I think that's I think that's the trick. If you can do that, no matter the same thing with working out, like sometimes a great workout, sometimes not every work, but do it. Just do it anyway. You're tired, you're it's okay. It's okay. So you wanted to lift, you want to do five reps, ten reps, okay. You did three reps, okay, whatever. But but you did it. You kept yourself going, you learned from that, then you want to do better the next day. Like, I think there's that, and I think that is that is just really challenging. Like, it just is challenging, and I think that's why we have to hear it from somebody else another time because we get so used to hearing it the same way we heard it. When someone else says it a different way, cling, you know, then it's like okay, now it clicks because you got used to that one. You're like, I think it's also part of it that you you feel like I did and it didn't work, so you need to hear a different way. I I don't know. I don't know, I don't have 100% of the answer, but I think there's something there.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Yeah, so I guess basically it just comes down to the fact that look, our our mindset is incredibly important, and we can't always maintain this equilibrium, you know. Just have a look around you. Like there's all kinds of stuff happening at the same time in this world today, and sometimes you just need a reminder, you need it phrased in a different way that kind of clicks, you know, and um there was something about hearing that algorithm analogy that made me pause and think, yeah, I get that, and let me try that, you know?

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Yeah, I wonder if because we always not not always, always, but like it's very it's spoken often about oh, the algorithm, you know, like oh, that came in my feed because of the algorithm, this because of the algorithm. So like when someone tells you algorithm in a positive way, it kind of almost like, oh, it's not all bad. Like, I don't know, that might be part of it too.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah, maybe, maybe that was part of it. Look, I can easily go down a rabbit hole of things I need to deal with. It's like I'm always trying to fix everything. I don't know if it's the mom in me, the woman in me. I don't I don't know really what it is, my type A personality. But, you know, once you get going with that and you're not conscious that your mind is just freely, your algorithm is freely just grabbing at everything that needs to be fixed, you know, you don't definitely need to see how how do I pause this and shift it so that I'm being fed things that are energizing and are helping me get the job done.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Yeah. Yeah, I I can tell you pretty much anybody I know that we've had these kind of conversations. I know for myself, I've done certain things that have gotten me to either feel better or do something or whatever, because I've I've worked my brain, like I've I just really worked it. And almost anybody I've spoken to that been like, you know, I did this thing and I just kept, I just kept at it, I kept at it, I kept saying this thing, I kept doing that. And I hardly ever hear anybody say, you know, yeah, I did it, and I really did it, I really did it, you know, I really concentrated whatever, and it did nothing for me. It's very, very rare that you hear that. You almost always hear you almost always hear that, you know, okay, it's not like I want a million dollars, I want a million dollars, I want okay, that's just you know, you're being silly, but like whatever thing you can think of that you know clearly you know, you know, that it's within your power, it could be anything from like I'm gonna feel better, I'm gonna feel better, I'm gonna feel better, like you know, I'm not gonna get this cold, I'm not gonna get this cold, you know. And if you do it in a positive way, like I feel good, you know, I feel good, I am healthy. It it changes things where you say things to yourself like, oh, I'm getting sick again. Yeah, well, now you're sick. You're not getting sick, you are sick.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, it's interesting even if you just like say a goal out loud. Yeah, you know, I mean, I and I have to say that I do do that. I do say my goals out loud. You know, a couple years ago I said to myself, I'm really gonna try with my art and I'm gonna get a solo show. And I've literally gotten two solo shows in the past two years. So in New York City this time.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Well, but that look, that's what it is, right? And it might not be the solo show you think, but you can, I mean, I mean, that's more manifestation, right, than mindset. Like there's this is it's all kind of aligned, right? It's all kind of stuff together, like mindset manifestation. Like it's a little, it's all a little different, but connected. But yeah, look, I I I feel you. I I I absolutely get that. Um, yeah, there's there's no question.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

And honestly, look, no one's you're not gonna become successful if you're going around bashing yourself all the time. That's just not gonna lead, that's not gonna lead you to where you want to go. So if you take one piece of this podcast today, it is really think about how your mindset is and think about the way you're articulating how you feel about yourself. I think that's really important.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Well, that's a that's a big one we've heard many, many times. Is like, you know, if you talk badly about yourself to yourself, you you're kind of dead in the water right there. Like you and and it's again, I think it's one of the things that's easy to say. It's a lot of these things are easy to say. Like, you know, yeah, I think it's I think it's a tricky one, but I I agree. If you're constantly being hard on yourself, bashing yourself, telling yourself that you're bad, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be hard to kind of crack through and have positive things happen in your life.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Yeah, and you clearly, if you're doing that, you clearly have a negative mindset. So, you know, worth worthy topic to discuss.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Yeah, no, I I I agree. I think look, I think we all could learn from that, you know, and I think we're constantly doing our best to learn every day from everything, from attitudes, from mindset, from all that stuff. And I think, yeah, I think it's I think it's an important thing for everybody. I think I think you know, if everybody did that, everybody thought about you know positivity more than negativity, you know, a lot of things would probably be a lot better in the universe. So that's what I think.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Have some fun today.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

That's a hell of a plug.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

But yeah, that's well, I mean, I'm just saying that that's where my my dad had the most positive.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Oh, 100%. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

And that is literally something that he said every single day.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

So it's like 100%. And listen, we have both experienced that. We have experienced that with when you know I'm wearing the sweatshirt, you have the bag, and people that don't know us see it, and they're like, you know what? I am, I'm going to, I am gonna have some fun today. So for sure, for sure that stuff helps, for sure. So well, look, I hope it helps every anybody who's listening today. So that's that was our butt we just yeah, it just kind of made sense to kind of talk about that. So already then. I think it's time for uh look at it, look at she's getting excited. She's wondering what's he gonna do today? How's he gonna do it? Yeah, I will be it's rapid fire time, rapid, rapid fire time, rapid, rapid fire time.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

You just have no shame. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Zero, zero, yeah. I mean I keep as long as I can keep my clothes on, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Okay. Well, would you like me to ask you first? Since I think I've been the person that was asked first the past few times.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

Whatever makes you happy.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Okay, so here we go, Jay. One thing you wish AI could take care of right away.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

For you. Just one? Just one? You wish. Just one thing? I don't think it does a lot more than one thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

No, one specific thing that you AI to take care of.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Um like reading your words.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

So I got it. I got it. I promise you I got it the first time. I'm never mind.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

You're just trying to torture me.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

No, basically torturing myself. Yeah, it's uh it's a very good question. I mean, obviously, I use AI for a lot of different things. So it yeah, it's a hard question for me to answer because we are in the process of working on a lot of those things, like that one thing. Like if I could make this happen and I don't have to do it. I'm over overall organization of because there are a lot of tools you can use, but obviously we're we're we're dancing around that to find something ideal. Truly organizing so that a lot of things I do, I don't I wouldn't have to do, that I could focus my energy better and that I could rest better, like I don't get to sleep early enough because there's one more thing I have to do, like something an AI that could really help guide me through that process on a daily basis to take the things away, which is coming. And there are tools out there, but they're just not right. So I'd say if it could do that, that would be great.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Yeah, that'd be awesome. What is one thing that you would never want AI to do for you?

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Um, eat my bagel.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

I mean, don't take away my bagel. Like, don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Okay, so one thing you haven't done in a long time, but you'd really like to do again.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Go down a slide.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's cool. I'll go down a slide with you.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

There's a playground near the house in Pennsylvania. We'll go there and we'll go down the slide. And I'll I'll videotape you going down the slide.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Well, I really walked, I really walked right into that one, didn't I? I was like, there's no way she's gonna have a comeback for this. I don't know why that came into my head. When I when I read that, that was the only thing that popped into my head. Oh, there's a thousand things that I've done that I'd love to do again.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

But that one somehow something just pops into your head like I mean I that's like because I can remember what the feeling was like. Yeah, a lot of things I can remember what it felt like emotionally to do. And I can because you get that little that little flutter in your your own that's exactly what happened.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

But you can't you can't re-feel pain physical. It's impossible. The brain is not capable of doing it.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Think about it.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

That's cool. Think about the last time you can re-feel emotional pain.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Yes, but not physical pain.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

Yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Yeah, so you could be like, oh, that was so terrible. Oh, remember that time when I arm and that this and I couldn't, and remember that? Like, yeah, okay. And do you feel it right now? I'm telling you about it. I'm putting you right in that moment. It's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

That's very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Yeah, cool. You're welcome. Okay, you ready?

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

What's one thing you wish AI could take care of right now?

SPEAKER_01 36:29

I would love it if AI could navigate, like, and I know I'm sure it can, paying my bills and doing all the things that I I don't enjoy doing that I just have to do.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

It it it can.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

I'm sure it can do all those things.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

It does.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

It's not using it in that way, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

But but you have you have you have and and you're not alone. You're I'm not this is not picking on you at all, but you have certain like that. This is how I do things. I'm comfortable doing this, I've done it this way, I'm comfortable. I d uh, this is how I do things, and you're very clear on that. So I get that.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Well, I'm sure all of this is gonna change very in the next it'll come to a point where you won't have a choice. The way we do this kind of stuff is gonna be very different.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

Well, things won't be a choice. That's gonna be a choice somewhere. Right now you have a choice. Right now you have a choice to open your mail, you have a choice to do this manually, you have a choice, you won't have the choice at some point, so you'll yeah. So um, okay, and one thing that you don't ever want AI to do for you paint my paintings. So you wouldn't ever want to come up with the vision and get the AI to actually do it exactly the way it is in your brain.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

No, because that's just it's such a physical physicality of it is what part of it is. Yeah, so like I'm so honestly, I feel so blessed that I get to do that. Okay, like it's really one of the most amazing feelings.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Makes sense. One thing you haven't done in a long time that you'd like to do again.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

I would love to go on an adventure someplace foreign and have have an adventure, like not plan it out and take it day by day. I think.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

What do you mean by adventure? Like go someplace I've never been and so I just mean like you don't when you say adventure, when you say adventure, you don't necessarily mean going to the jungle or going up a mountain. It could be going to Paris and with no plans.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

So it's just going, doing anything like an adventure can be.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Something out of my norm that I've never, I mean, I've been to Paris, but I haven't been there in a while. Um, yeah. So I'd want to.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

Something like that with no with no schedule, with no plan, with no, oh, I can't do that today because I'm not sending it out like it would be an adventure.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Like, well, let's do that. Oh, okay. You know, like that kind of a thing. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 39:07

That's fun. That sounds that sounds good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Wanna come?

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Yes, I would love to come. Just put me in put me in your suitcase. Okay. Um, I'll probably get through faster than going through the airport right now. Um anyway. Yeah, I heard it's a total shitshow, by the way. Like, everybody, I mean, I know your mom made it through easy peasy. Any other I've heard so many horror stories, what it's like at the airports now.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Yeah, I'm such a bummer. I would love to go to London so badly right now.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

So well, yeah, you will. Um, all right. Well, that was fun. Good. I'm glad you had a good time. Thanks for thanks for coming by this week. You should we should do this more often. You should come by every week.

unknown 39:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

Okay.

unknown 39:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

I'll make sure I have a different hairdo next week.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

As that's that's the way it is. Um, we and we love that. We love that about you. Um, cool. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you, everybody, for listening or watching, or however you partake. And uh, we look forward to seeing you next week. Have a great week.