SHE SHREDS with Rasan: Metal Music, Backstage Riffs & More

Diminished 5th talks lyrics and inspiration with Rasan on their new EP- Check One, Check Two

Rasan Loray - Ohio Chica who lives and breathes hard rock, with a passion for metal culture and the 80s–90s–2000s era

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SPEAKER_00

What's up, Ohio? She trains with her stand. And this episode, brief as it was, was with Diminish. Just talked with them recently before they went live at the show at the Mother Shift in Mansfield on Saturday. And I get to talk about uh what goes into their songwriting and their inspiration for their new EP called Check One Check 2. But um I really want you to give them a listen, give them a like. Uh these guys have some really good talent that it just meshes so well. You will hear it when you listen to their music. So take a listen. And while you're at it, if you hit like and subscribe to help me grow, also, so I can keep bringing you these really cool kick-ass musicians and bands that we've got local here to Ohio. All right, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01

All right, what's up, Ohio? She Shreds with Rassanne, and I am here with these cool guys from Diminish Fifth, and they're playing tonight here at the mothership located in Mancefield. So we're just gonna go around real quick and everybody introduce yourselves.

SPEAKER_02

Matt. Marty Riley. I'm Carl.

SPEAKER_01

All right. So tell me what I guess I always start off asking what was behind the name that you came up with for Diminish Fifth.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we have a past of uh Matt and I were in another band together, and we found a love for whiskey. And um so we diminished a lot of fifths. So and then we got thinking of the musical theory behind it, and plus the dimensional concept of the fifth dimension, and it just all kind of fit, you know, uh where our mindset was at when we formed this gotcha crazy act.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. How long have you guys known each other?

SPEAKER_03

Forever.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I know you're all you're all local m musicians. I've known Carl for a long time.

SPEAKER_03

So I've known Riley since he was this big. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Both of these guys. Yeah, yeah. Carl's grandstown for our first show or my first show that I was ever involved in as a musician.

SPEAKER_04

So you know, for Mark, it's it's been what 26 years somewhere in that vicinity, and I've known everybody at least that, if not more.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. All right, and you guys have played in local bands? Yeah. Okay. All right, Mark. What about you? You played in local bands too?

SPEAKER_02

Years ago, probably back in the 90s, and I gave it up for a bit. Okay. Started farting around, retired, and met Riley and uh rest is history. So you're in what, deja vu and stuff? Yeah, oh, deja vu, yeah, that was back in the 90s.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. All right, good times. All right, and then Riley, I know that you've had a musical career that you started out, you know, pretty young. Yes, baby. Yes, as a baby. Yeah. Is that before you started uh falling off of skateboards?

SPEAKER_03

Oh actually, now we're on the same time, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna bring you a box of band-aids tonight to give it to you too. But I didn't get around, yeah, I didn't hit the store yet.

SPEAKER_02

It's all good.

SPEAKER_01

So uh tonight, this is kind of like the uh the opening um event for your new EP that you released, right? Yep. So tell us a little bit about this. I was listening to some of the songs today, and you guys, I the way everything comes together for you guys, it just seems so natural.

SPEAKER_03

Um it's uh for us, it's how music is always kind of supposed to have been, if that makes any sense. The ease that we've this is our second album in in basically a year that we've released it. It's almost a year to the day that we're doing this album release. So for our first album, it was it was here in March last year. Now it's the third week of March for this one. So it's we we're already six deep into the third.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_03

So that the for whatever reason, how everything is meshed and came together, and I think it is because we've known each other for so long and everything else, and and again, music, love, relationship, everything else. It's all kind of like a symbiance of what I think with everything that we've all been through as human beings, that this is kind of like the culmination of that. You know what I mean? Where it just it's been, I don't know, we we we none of us know how to describe it.

SPEAKER_04

It's been it's been really easy and really awesome uh just to sit out with these guys and have what I like to say is it's the most organic band that I've ever been in in my life. That makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Do any of you guys have a favorite off of uh the new albums?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's like picking children. Yeah, it's like picking children.

SPEAKER_04

For me, it's on a troy. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I just love the bass line in it. I like Jack Von Hyde probably the most. That's cool too.

SPEAKER_01

I do like Jekyll and Hyde. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

My favorite lyrics are is is the Eye of the Beholder.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's a beautiful song. I like that. And I also like the uh reservation for one. Reservation, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so that's our hate song. Yeah, I think it's a very good thing.

SPEAKER_01

So what got you, what is behind the lyrics with reservation for one?

SPEAKER_03

So I again, what what we try to do is we're either telling the story or right from the heart. We've all been through fucked up relationships or bad relationships, and I and I think they're all pretty much the same. It's just a different name that goes along with them and a different level of crazy. So that's kind of like all the relationships, all all bad relationships, all kind of meshed into one. And the whole reservation for one thing is where you're just finally, we all get to that point where you're just like, dude, I don't even want to hear anymore. So, you know what I mean? So it's just you know, it's just time for reservation for one and you gotta go. So pretty much.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, very true.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

What about Jekyll and Hyde? Who I guess what goes into the songwriting?

SPEAKER_03

Do all of you guys contribute to the song, the lyrics, or is there so how how this has been, which for however for whatever reason, how this has worked out, is I've done all the lyrics for all the songs. Now is what I do is like if I'll or how we do this in practices, I'll be like, what do you guys think this should be about? This is what I think, or this, you know what I mean? So what we kind of like first we think of what the melody and harmonies of the songs are and everything else, and then it comes up with the story behind it. So some of them where I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh, I got this one, you know what I mean? But for the most part, it's it's all of us kind of putting our heads together, and then I just write the lyrics that will kind of go along with that story. Okay. So the lyrics for me are I love lyrics. I love, I mean, for me, the power of words is it's it's really cool, you know what I mean? So it goes right along. You gotta have both if you're gonna have the music. So it's one of those things to where we all work together with how we're doing it, what we're doing, and everything else. And then when everything gets done, as far as the lyrics-wise, I show these guys and like, what do you guys think? So, and if they don't like it, I'll be like, Oh, I could change that line or do this or go a whole different direction. It'll definitely molded by everyone in one way or right. For sure, for sure. Right.

SPEAKER_01

And I felt like um, you know, just hearing the songs and the lyrics too, it seemed like um there's there's a certain part of anybody that those songs could touch because of based on your own circumstances, you know. But it it could it could reach just trying to be relatable, so many, yeah. We've all been so many, right, right. And those songs definitely speak to it. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that was one of the things you brought up in practice the other day about Jeff and High is we all have that inner demon, you know, in us. So that's kind of what I gather from that song is the you wake up and you make a choice whether you're going to be Dr. Jack or Mr.

SPEAKER_03

Hyde. You know, that's what the whole song is about. It's it's about the yin and yang of the universe. Right. So sometimes we actually choose to be both, sometimes we choose to be one or the other, sometimes we're in between. You know what he means.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and um, yeah, so some of the lyrics too, it talked about kind of like uh you're talking about being Jack Balan Hyde, but um, like who are you gonna be? I think it was um I can't remember the exact lyrics, it was uh something to the effect of, you know, you're just gonna go inside.

SPEAKER_03

Right. So So and again, it's one of those things we all react to things differently. So we all, I mean, there's people that would rather be sheltered, there's people that want to come out and puff their chest, there's people, and that's I tried to throw every little bit of all of that in. You know what I mean? So, and again, I I've been there. I've been I've been where I was so pissed off, or I didn't want to be around people, you know what I mean, or hurt, or and then I also I've been all those same things and I needed to be around people. So, and then there's times where you're just you know I mean, you're pounding your chest and you gotta get whatever you gotta get out, you know. So it that again, that's what that song, it's it's literally the battle for all of us that we all go through with life, period.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely, yeah, and I think too that's true. It's not always just you know, like the crazy person and then the same person, you know. And if we think of Jeff Lynn Hyde, it's people have they and even these days, people that live these lives that you never knew until you find out that you know they're uh a serial killer that, you know. So um, so tonight can you tell us like what songs you are gonna be playing?

SPEAKER_03

So we're playing the first eight off of the the new album. Okay. So we're trying to what we're doing tonight is is trying to mix in a little bit from the first, most of the second, and then we're actually we have a surprise when we're throwing in one of the brand new tunes as our last song. Yeah, it's it's gonna be on the third album. Okay. So that's what we're gonna end with tonight.

SPEAKER_01

All right. So with the third album, do you have a planned date for when that will be finished?

SPEAKER_03

No, just whatever whatever life brings us and what the music does. That's how it's been for the most part. Yeah, that's how it's been.

SPEAKER_01

It's just yeah, you need to enjoy the the current one, right? Yeah, or that wave.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, my buddy told me a long time ago, he said, What did the mouse say to the elephant? If it don't fit, don't force it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

You don't force it.

SPEAKER_01

I was waiting, I'm waiting for the punchline.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we just we just let it be what it is. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

So what is he gonna say?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the music brings us what the it the music has brought us what I mean. That's the timeline, that's whatever the music is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh God, if you could have seen my eyes could have been. Oh goodness. Okay, so with since you're working currently on the third album, you've got this, the new release that's out right now. What is something that you want your audience to walk away with? Let's say from current fans, what do you want them to walk away with?

SPEAKER_03

Love. Love, definitely. And the love of music. I think just the just the feeling of it being an organic album, a little bit different from our first album for me personally. I mean, that's that's what I get from it. So I hope that it resonates with other people. Yeah, from start to finish that it's relatable. Yeah. It is, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

From from if you notice what the 10 songs that we have, the diversity of those 10 songs. I mean, we've really we we cross genres and everything else, and it's one of those things to where again we've just allowed the music to be what it is and bring us what it's brought us. So I don't, I I hate the whole genre thing. I know we have to have it and everything else, but again, whatever the feeling is at the moment, that's what we've done, and that's what I love about both of these albums.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So it's that it that it just it is what it is, you know what I mean? It's it's relatable, it's it's about life, it's about love, it's about hate, it's about all these different things that we all experience. On any any given day, we could drop a reggae track. Right, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, something that's that's one of the things I think there's a big growth as a band. Right. You can tell that we're starting to understand one another and so many different factors, and our songwriting just freaking popped on this one, and the new songs I think are in just another growth jump. I I you you can definitely hear it from first album to second. And that's so cool. I think you'll hear it on the third, too. Right. That we're growing as musicians together. Both produced by Carl Perry, by the way. Right.

SPEAKER_01

I was that was yeah, I was gonna ask, you know, how what goes into the production. So you're producing wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we we sat and sit in the man.

SPEAKER_01

They're they're like, yeah, that degree is going a long way.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we just it it's so fun that we all have voices when it comes down to the fun, well, I want this to happen, or I want to try this. And that's what's wonderful about having your own studio, is we don't have to worry about the clock ticking or money involved. It's like I already own the gear, let's just have fun with this. Let's just do the best that we possibly can, and there's no time resting either. You know, like you're asking for the the third release. We don't have, yeah, you don't have a recording. We want it to be the best we can possibly make. And we're always trying new things and and trying to make a better album, you know.

SPEAKER_01

How long have you been producing?

SPEAKER_04

Well, off and on and doing live, you know, live for 30.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't find that every day. You know, it's talking somebody, you know, old school.

SPEAKER_04

Right, you know. Well, I learned from some of the best around here, you know. You have Gino and Smedley, and yeah, you know, Gary, Gary, little Gary helped me at times, Mike Todd, you know, all these guys gave me pointers that I grew as in the live sound situation. And it it just I have a love for music and what it takes to make sound, the best possible sound that you can get, whether it's live or in the studio. And I I just thrive off of that. And I just try to make it better and easy for everyone and have a good time.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that's pretty cool because um, I mean, you're you're describing a job. You know, most people would see that as a job, but you love it, and for you, you it's just something that you love doing. You're good at doing it, so it it's just more of a I haven't worked a day in my life.

SPEAKER_04

What would you call it? It just a passion. Yeah, it truly is. It's it's a form of life. I live, breathe it, think it all the time. I'm always studying, trying to figure out new ways of doing things. GT, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Too too bad not like not everybody can have that passion about their jobs. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It would be nice, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, definitely. So, what would you say to a new fan who would be hearing you guys tonight? What would you say that uh you want them to uh walk away with compared to somebody that's familiar with your music?

SPEAKER_03

That's one thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, all right. So you're on all streaming platforms, I'm guessing. Okay. All right, sweet.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And it's under diminished fifth with the number five, not spelled out fifth.

SPEAKER_04

Right, correct.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

She just spelled it out.

SPEAKER_01

Seriously, who came up who did come up with when we were drinking? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, again, the whole it's like the triple nonchondra. It's just one of those states to where it's just us.

SPEAKER_01

Or you just kept saying it or something.

SPEAKER_03

Well, no, it's just I was trying, I was going through like what I thought would be cool, and we all like put in put through names into the hat and everything else and whatever, and for some reason, diminished fit. We all agreed it just seemed to fit, you know. And if you saw our practice area, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

If you would see the whistle, yeah. Yeah. I got two mini fridges and the whole top, and then I've got a cabinet full of bottles because I'm gonna make a wall out of them. Okay, yeah, make some art. Yeah, we usually go through.

SPEAKER_01

Recycle, guys. Come on, recycle. Yeah, all right. Okay, so um you're working on your upcoming third album, and I guess we'll just have to pay attention and go out and stream all of your music. And um, I did see on YouTube too, where you recorded uh, you know, some live sets.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we got some live on YouTube has a little bit of live stuff. It's it's got a bunch of different videos and everything else. It's got some acoustic stuff, it's got a little bit of everything.

SPEAKER_01

So that's cool, you know. Fans can go and check it out, right? You know, kind of see what's going on, you know, behind the scenes. So all right. Well, guys are gonna be going on pretty soon. So just the technical difficulties. It was great finally having you on with Jenny. Thank you. And yeah, thank you so much. So, Ohio, you can't see me, but you know, it's she sharks with Russand. And until then, keep it loud.