Be Still and Live

#04: Redefining "Good": What if success is presence, not hustle? with Laura Sinclair

• Gillian Gabryluk • Season 1 • Episode 4

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What if success isn’t about doing more, but choosing better?

In this conversation with entrepreneur and community builder Laura Sinclair, we rethink what “good” looks like across motherhood, meaningful work, and modern life. Laura shares the story of a late-night text, an early class, and the version of herself who believed she had no choice, until one reframe changed everything: you can have it all, you just don’t have to do it all.

Together, we unpack the quiet scripts that push women toward overwhelm at home and hustle at work, replacing them with a personal definition of “good” rooted in presence, regulation, and joy. Laura offers practical boundary tools - like “hard stop” openings, phone-protecting communication channels, and onboarding expectations that bring ease to every relationship.

We also name the invisible race so many of us run against strangers on the internet, learning to trade comparison for pace and to see others’ wins as proof of possibility - not proof that we’re behind.

If your days are full but your heart is hungry for meaning, this episode invites you to slow down, simplify, and choose what matters most. Expect honest stories, gentle permission to get help without guilt, and a reminder that nobody has it perfectly figured out behind the scenes.

Press play for grounded tools, a calmer mindset, and the courage to let “someday” become today. 

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Laura:

So, for so long in my life, I absolutely subscribed to what was prescribed to me. I was told this is what this is supposed to look like. Motherhood looks like this. Being a good woman looks like this, being a good sister, a good daughter. Like you we go through our lives being told how things are supposed to be.

Gillian:

If your days feel full, but your heart longs for more meaning, you're not alone. Between the screens, the schedules, and the never-ending noise, it's easy to lose your sense of peace. But what if the way forward isn't found in doing more, but in learning to slow down, to simplify, to be still. Welcome to Be Still and Live, a podcast for individuals, couples, and families longing for calm, connection, and a more meaningful way to live. I'm Gillian, speaker, coach, and founder of Sileo Health and Wellness. And I'm here to help you create space for stillness and step into a life that feels whole and good again. Today I'm joined by Laura Sinclair, entrepreneur, speaker, and founder of This Mother Means Business. Laura's work sits right where so many of us live: the intersection of parenthood and a meaningful professional life. In this conversation, Laura shares a freeing reframe. You can have it all, you just don't have to do it all. We talk about rewriting what good looks like on your terms, setting boundaries as doors, not walls, and stepping off the invisible rat race that no one else even knows you're running. Laura also tells a pivotal story from her early postpartum days that reminds us that we always have a choice and that choosing well protects our energy, our families, and what matters most. If you're craving more presence, permission, and practical language for your boundaries, you're in the right place. Let's dive in. Laura, I'm so glad to have you here today. Welcome to Be Still and Live. Thank you so much for having me.

Laura:

I'm so excited for our conversation today.

Gillian:

Me as well. I've been looking forward to this conversation because your work speaks so deeply to the intersection of motherhood, professional life, and living with balance and intention, which aligns so much with the heart of this podcast. I'd love to start at the beginning, Laura. For those just meeting you, can you share a little bit about yourself, your story, and what brought you to what you do today?

Laura:

Yeah, absolutely. So my name is Laura Sinclair. I'm Canadian. I am the founder of This Mother Means Business, which is a platform designed to elevate and encourage and inspire entrepreneurial mothers as they navigate the intersection of motherhood and entrepreneurship. I have a corporate marketing background. I started my career in PR. I've run a brick and mortar gym, a nutrition coaching company. I had a social media marketing agency. And now I'm building this Mother Means business, which is a membership platform. We have a podcast, we do retreats and events. And it's really about creating a space where women who are ambitious and also navigating motherhood and wanting to show up in powerful ways in that space too can come together and lean on each other and receive real support. And so much of this came out of my own experience of having my first daughter, who is my first daughter is if I have two, I only have one. Um, who's gonna who's eight and my son is almost five. And uh, you know, I had my daughter when I was running a brick and mortar business, and I didn't know any other entrepreneurial moms. The examples of what I had seen of what motherhood were was supposed to look like did not align with the examples that I had seen of what entrepreneurship was supposed to look like. And so I found myself really struggling between these two definitions. And then somewhere in there, I was supposed to be Laura at the same time and make space for myself. And so I really fumbled a lot along the way. And this mother means business is, I don't want to say it's the completion of that because I'm still very much doing so many things for the first time as a mom, but it's really came from the mess that was my first couple of years postpartum trying to figure out motherhood and entrepreneurship and realizing that, oh, I'm actually not the only person having this experience, but there's not a lot of people having the conversation about this experience in a way that is raw and honest and um not pink and MLM focused, which is then that's fine if that's your thing. It's just a lot of the women that are in my world are women who are full-time in their jobs and um have a lot of ambition, but are also trying to show up as devoted mothers as well.

Gillian:

I love that, Laura. It sounds like you've done a little bit of everything. And I feel like I could learn a lot from you. And I know our audience can learn a lot from the wisdom that you've gained through through all of these different experiences. I love that you talk about empowering women to be able to do it all. We all want to do it all. So many women are just very inspired and they want to be able to balance out all the things that they enjoy. And that includes motherhood, that includes pursuing their gifts and talents in their career and having a little fun on the side for themselves as well. So that's why we're here. This is the message that I want to share with people and the conversation that I would love to have is just understanding how to do it all and striking a balance by living with intention. So, Laura, you have so much wisdom to share, but I'd love to discuss the blog post you wrote back in May titled My Keynote Reflections. This stopped me in my tracks. I love the message that you shared here. I felt so aligned and I loved how you said we always have a choice. This is something that I often speak about with my clients as well. And I would just love for you to share a little bit more about how we get caught in this trap of thinking what life should look like and forget that we can choose differently.

Laura:

Can you speak a little bit about that? Yeah, of course. So I think, you know, before I do that, I think it's important that I really believe that we can have it all. I actually don't think we need to do it all. I think there is a really important nuance there in that language when we think about our roles as moms and and the titles that we wear, right? Like we can have all the things that we desire. We don't have to be the one that does it all. So and that's a little bit about that, that um, that blog post too. So that came on the back end of my hosted my first event in April, and I delivered a keynote at that event, which is not something I'll ever do again. I love speaking, I love keynoting, but I will never host and keynote my own event ever again. I will a lot of pressure. I will do a welcome address, I will facilitate panels, I will be on stage, but I will not deliver a keynote again at my own event. Um, but what this really came from for me, this idea of, you know, you always have a choice. For me, I I always think back to when I was um postpartum with my daughter and ran a came to her gym. And I have this really vivid memory of it being Sunday at 9 p.m. And my phone goes off. You know, I'm I'm sure at that point I was like covered in breast milk. I was, you know, just really, really excited to going for going to bed, like just ready to pack it in. And my text message, the text message that I received was from a my 5:45 a.m. coach. So the person that was supposed to coach the 5 45 a.m. class at my gym the next morning, Monday morning. Right. The message says, hey, I can't make it to class at 5.45. And so here I am at home. My husband's a shift worker, he's gone. The only person, the only option that there is to coach this class is me at this point. So I had 12 staff and all of them said no, none of them were available, you know, for all the reasons stuck at night. Of course, no one's available for 5:45 a.m. class. And so I call my mom, my parents who live about an hour away, and essentially beg them to get in the car to drive to where I live, to stay overnight with my daughter so that I can go and coach this 5:45 a.m. class. And so I get up at 4 a.m., I pump so that there's milk for my daughter when she wakes up. I think at that point, thankfully, she was mostly sleeping through the night. Pump, get in the car, drive the 25 minutes to the gym, run the class, get back in the car, drive all the way back, or leave my parents, send them on their way. Also, I didn't disappoint 12 people. Right. 12 people that were in this 545 a.m. class. The version of me now would have just sent a lovely little email that said, hey guys, so sorry for the short notice. 545 a.m. class is canceled today, tomorrow. But I didn't do that. Right. I was the person that was like, okay, I gotta, I got these clients, I don't want to disappoint anybody. And I I need to, I need to do this and I'm gonna show up. And because I truly didn't think I had a choice, right? Right. I felt like I don't have a choice. I have to go. I'm the only person. I don't have a choice. But the reality is I I always had a choice. I just didn't know that I could make a different choice. I didn't think that it was okay to say no to things. I didn't know that there was a different way to run my business, to protect my own energy. It was like I was gonna do whatever it took to make that business run and serve my clients, even if it meant completely sacrificing everything that actually mattered to me and disappointing myself and you know, asking all these things of many, of far too many people just to simply not send an email that disappointed the 12 clients that would have been there on Tuesday morning anyway, you know? So that for me was a really big lesson in entrepreneurship and motherhood and sort of when I look back on it now, I want to give that version of myself a great big hug. But that was just where I was at the time.

Gillian:

Right. And so many people would see that as dedication, right, to your job, to your career, to your passion. But I think we're talking to a lot of women who move from either motherhood and try to give it back into a career, or they move from a career to motherhood. And it's hard to make that transition, isn't it? Because your values change when you become a parent.

Laura:

Totally. It's actually one of my favorite things, Jillian, is when I meet someone who is either an entrepreneur or has a career and they're pregnant for the first time. And entrepreneurship for sure is it's always I always sort of like giggle to myself lovingly, of course, because you never, you have no idea what's coming when you become a mom for the first time. But I always love when somebody is pregnant and is sort of making these grand plans about what they think it's gonna be, right? Because they just you have no idea. Like, oh, it should be fine. I'm gonna take this time off MAT leave and then I'll go back to work and blah, blah, blah. And you're like, uh-huh. Yes. You know, you're like, okay, we'll see how it works for you. Yes. There's just so much that changes, and all the plans go out the window because you become a different person. You the things that that matter to you change where you prioritize your time changes, like it all changes and in in so many ways that are like earth-shattering. These are not minor changes, right? These are huge changes that you would have never probably not seen coming before your baby was here on Earth. So it's um, yeah, it's quite the rocket ship.

Gillian:

Right. Absolutely. And and if you were to say no that day and send that email out, your clients would know that your dedication is now first towards your family, which is a good thing and something to be proud of, and something that we need to give each other permission to be dedicated to and celebrate, right? So that's a great segue into my next question. You spoke in that blog post about rewriting the definition of good and what that means, whether you're a good mom, good business business owner, or even just a good woman. How did you begin to redefine good for yourself?

Laura:

Yeah. So for so long in my life, I absolutely subscribed to what was prescribed to me. Right. I was told this is what this is supposed to look like. Motherhood looks like this, being a good woman looks like this, being a good sister, a good daughter. Like you we go through our lives being told how things are supposed to be. And I mentioned sort of earlier that I struggled with the definitions of what it meant to be a good mom, what it meant to be an entrepreneur. You know, you think about what social media tells us or society tells us. We're just focusing on those two titles. Being a good mom usually means martyring yourself, right? Putting yourself last, sacrificing for other people. Doing a good entrepreneur also means hustling, martyring yourself. I saw a video yesterday that was like, if you're not week working on the weekends, you're not, your goals aren't big enough, or something like that. And I was just like, put those two things together. And it's no wonder we're all exhausted. Yeah. How can you possibly, how can you possibly do that? And so I really did try for a while to fit myself into both of those labels. But then I really had to give myself the permission to actually redefine what that even meant. What does it mean to be a good mom? Because certainly the version of myself I became when I was trying to be the martyr, hustle, do all the things was not good. Just wasn't. It wasn't my definition of good. And so I started to release myself of some of these external expectations of what it meant to wear any of the titles that we sort of own in our lives. And oftentimes these are external stories or external pressures of how we're supposed to show up. And I hear this with my clients all the time. They'll say, Oh, you know, my mom, you know, even if they're a fully grown adult woman with children, it's like my mom said my mom came over and she told me my house is messy and I feel, and now I feel like shit. And you're like, okay, like, why? Did you feel bad before? Or you just feel bad because your mom came over and told you that it's bad, right? And so for me, it really just started coming home to myself, coming home to what I actually believe is good. What do my children need? What do I need? And really creating my own singular definition. And it started with hiring a nanny. I had to hire a nanny when my daughter was, um, I think she was about six or seven months old because I lost a team member at my gym. So fast forward gym ownership. Now I'm hiring this nanny, which I felt terrible about, by the way, because here in Canada, most of my peers were having a year, a year and some of 18 months at home maternity leave. Going back to work with a six-month-old baby was like pretty rare here. And so I already felt kind of bad about it. And then I had this nanny who was watching my daughter for me, and I loved it. I loved being able to have this space. And I loved being able to tap back into who I was. And I was realizing that I was actually more present with her because I had the space with my daughter. When I was with her, I was able to be more relaxed and more present rather than sticking her in the jolly jumper and working on my laptop behind her and trying to be in two places at once, which was really impossible. So for me, it's been really this, these like little examples of things that maybe weren't traditionally under the layer of what I thought was good. Because at the time, hiring a nanny and letting someone else raise my children or raise my child a little bit of the time wasn't under the definition of what it meant to be good, right? It meant being a good mom, meant being with your kids all the time. But when I started sort of giving myself some of those permissions, I realized that actually I'm so much better for them in my version of good, which is means I'm present, I'm regulated, I'm fun, I get to be sort of my favorite self with them. I can't do that if I don't have space. And so I actually can't do that under the other definition, this external definition that I had sort of looked at. And I, that sort of realization had me starting to look at all of the roles that I play and where I need to have boundary, be better boundaried so that I can show up as you know, my favorite version of myself the way that I want to in those spaces. And it's something that I've, as I've talked to more women and as I've built this mother means business, realized that my definition of good motherhood and your definition of good motherhood are probably different. And that's okay. And so when we sort of release these expectations, things just become so much more joyful and so much easier.

Gillian:

I couldn't agree more. And thank you so much for sharing that real story with us and that progression that you made from being completely um burnt out and overwhelmed with what you've taken on and learning to listen to yourself, which is what Sileo is all about, is taking a step back and really embracing that stillness so you can understand what you truly value. That uh story you told about your client who was talking about her mom who came over and, you know, was making comments about the household. We can't compare ourselves to the last generations. Motherhood a generation ago was so different than what it is today. There's so many fine details that are put on our plate that aren't really seen by generations that came before us. Just put our access to the internet and always needing to be on to respond to emails and text messages and communication with sports activities and schools. There's so much more on our plate today. So to compare ourselves to the last generation isn't all that helpful when it comes to understanding what we value and what we believe good looks like. So I feel like that's such a powerful message to really redefine what success looks like and redefine what good looks like, not to anybody else, but to you and your household. So thank you for sharing that, Laura. Of course. That brings us into the uh the next topic that you spoke about in your blog is the importance of boundaries. The importance of boundaries when it comes to being able to create a life that you love. Because we can't serve two bastards. We can do it all or have it all, as you said, but we can't do it all. So, how do you learn to delegate? How do you learn to stay true to the things that matter most to you without being completely overwhelmed, burnt out, or offending everybody around you? Or maybe that's what you're allowed to do if it's okay.

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Laura:

I mean, I'm a big believer that you shouldn't disappoint yourself, right? If you're looking at a list of people that you're gonna disappoint, you should be last on that list, right? We should never disappoint ourselves. We try not to disappoint our children, although that does happen. I mean, how many times do you go to the store with your kids and they're like, I want, I want this kinder egg? I'm like, no, you can't have that, right? That's you're gonna disappoint them. So we have to, we really have to protect ourselves because we carry so much. And I think what's interesting about boundaries is a lot of people think of them as walls, right? I'm putting up these walls around relationships, around people. But I like to think about boundaries as doors that only you have the keys to. Okay. I love this analogy. Doors can be open, but like you get to decide when that door is going to open. You're not sure, you're not building a wall, but what you are doing is you're creating safety for yourself, for your family, for what actually matters for your energy a lot of the time. And I believe that boundaries is a way to love yourself. Because when you are a mom and you're building business or you have a career, you're carrying so much. Most of us are doing like three people's worth of work. If you're talking about past generations, we're inundated with information. You know, I sometimes joke that I need an EA, like an executive assistant to just manage the emails that come home from school. Like there's there's so many things, right? It's school, it's work, it's ourselves. Somewhere in there, we're supposed to also be regulated and exercise and eat well. Like it's just too much. And so for me, creating boundaries around relationships, around my time, around my energy has been really important. And it's something that I model with my clients so that they can model it with their families too. Um, and sometimes it's just starting small, right? It's saying, hey, you know what? I'm gonna keep this boundary with myself where I'm gonna stop working at 3 p.m. and put my phone away. Sometimes it's setting a boundary with a client early and saying, hey, this is how we're gonna work together. You know, none of my clients have my phone number. None of them. Right? Like my cell phone for me, it's too, it's too much. If I start getting text messages, I feel anxious about that. So I know that about myself. But they can message me on Slack, they can send me an email, they can message me and they can get a hold of me in other ways, but nobody has my phone number because I don't need anybody to have my phone number, right? It's just too much. And so for anybody listening, I would just really encourage you to think about like, where are you disappointing yourself? Where are you saying yes to things you really want to say no to? Where are things spilling in that you're kind of just doing because you feel like you're supposed to? And then how do we set a boundary with a person? Right. It's always easiest to set boundaries from the beginning. It can be hard to establish a new boundary, especially with somebody that you feel like is constantly overstepping, but it's so and it's so essential because at the end of the day, like you have to protect your energy, your relationships, and yourself so, so much.

Gillian:

I couldn't agree more, Laura. And I really do believe it's more important than ever with everything that we have on our plate. You gave some really great examples about having a time clocked in that you finish work for the day. It could be three o'clock. What happens if you have a call that's going long or you have a project that you need to be finishing, but then it's gonna be leading into your family time, or maybe it's just you time that you have to go for a walk before your kids get home. It's really understanding the importance of having those boundaries because they keep you focused on the things that you've already thought through. You know that they matter, they you know that they're gonna keep you on track, and you just have to stick with those boundaries to make sure everything continues to stay balanced.

Laura:

Yeah, you and you can do it with kindness too, right? Like there are little things that I will say throughout my day to establish a boundary. So, you know, if I get on a call and I know that it, hey, actually, this isn't gonna go over, or like let's say you and I are having a chat, and I know that you have a tendency to want to go over, we have an hour booked, and I know I know Jillian likes to chat. So sometimes, you know, on the past, maybe our calls have gone longer. I can hop on and be like, hey, Jillian, I have a hard stop at 12 today. And that's not me being like, Jillian, I need you to not stop. It's like, hey, our I got a hard stop at 12. I have a 12 o'clock. Let's dive right in. Right. And so I'm setting that clear boundary for you from the beginning that like I have until 12. And then this call, this conversation is over, right? From the jump. Similarly, when I'm onboarding a client for the first time or I'm entering a relationship with somebody, it's like, hey, here you'll say, Oh, can I get your phone number? Hey, actually, no, I don't share my phone number because um that's a boundary for me. I also would prefer it if you don't message me on Instagram. Stories is the boundary that I have with my clients. If you want to DM me on Instagram, do it because you want to celebrate something or something's funny that you want to send me. Please don't ask me coaching questions in Instagram DMs because they will get lost. And by the way, here's when you here's when and how to ask me a question on what platform, and here's when and how I'm going to reply to you, right? So so much of it is setting up those relationships. And then certainly at home, if you need support from your partner that you're not getting, you need to speak that, right? For me, I have an office with doors. If my doors are closed, it means don't come in, right? If my door is open, it means you can come in. Even my kids know, right? If mommy's doors to the office are closed, and frankly, I work most of the time from during their school hours, but there's a little glass window and they'll stand there and they'll stick their faces on the window and wait for it to get my attention because they know that, hey, if mommy's in there and the doors are closed, like that's a boundary for her. She needs to stay in there. And so there's just little things, right? And some of it is just being able to have like clear, honest, concise conversations with folks that from the from the jump, so that you can continue to have relationships that are supportive for everybody.

Gillian:

And that's the end goal, isn't it? For your family, for your for your friends, for your clients, let your yes be yes and your no be no. This is something that I try to share with my clients. And when you do that, people actually respect you more for it. They see that you have boundaries, they see that you thought this through. And I I often find that this gives people permission to do it themselves. When you are modeling it, like you're saying you're doing for your clients, you're giving them permission to do the same thing in their personal life, in their career. And these are the things that keep us on track. I like that if you look at it as you are supporting other people by modeling this because it's giving them permission to do it as well. And for living, living with boundaries in their own life, then you can spin it in a different way and actually feel good about it and feel like you're serving somebody else by having boundaries yourself.

Laura:

Yeah, it's it's definitely not about being rude, right? It's not about, I think sometimes people think if I set too many boundaries, then like I'm gonna be cold, but it's not about that at all. It's not about being cold, it's not about being rude. It's just like, how do we move together on this very multifaceted journey and keep each other comfortable? That's what it's about. Exactly.

Gillian:

And it's okay if they think you're rude because you know that you're not being rude.

Laura:

Also that. Yes. Yes.

Gillian:

So you also talk about getting out of the rat race. Often a rat race, no one else even knows we're running. I love that you said that. We put so much pressure on ourselves. Could you talk about that a little bit?

Laura:

Yes. We're live in a world where everybody wants everything yesterday. And I work with a lot of entrepreneurs, but I think also in career, this shows up too, where you're like, oh, I'm but waiting for that promotion. It's not here yet, or in entrepreneurship, it's I haven't made enough money yet. And gosh, you know, I'm seeing all these other people that are successful. Why aren't I? Why aren't they there? And we put ourselves literally in races against people that don't even know that they signed up for it. You know, we're competing with people that didn't realize that we were competing, that they're competing with you. And so we create these imaginary competitions that we put ourselves in, these races that just don't serve anybody. And so we I really feel that we need to move ourselves into a place where we can just go at our own pace. Right? We all, that old, that like we all have the same 24 hours as Beyonce adage that went around for a while. Like, that's not true. We don't all have the same 24 hours. We aren't all dealing with the same things. We have different supports, different values, different beliefs, different ways that we want to function. And we can't compare ourselves to anybody else but ourselves, the own journey that we're on. I really like to look at other people that are successful as proof of what's possible rather than feeling like I'm racing anybody. But we just put so much unnecessary pressure on ourselves. And like, I think in entrepreneurship and in life, we have to be willing to just take a minute and look around, you know, and learn to enjoy the journey and not focus so much on the destination all the time.

Gillian:

And celebrate the small wins along the way. I mean, I I will admit, when I looked at your website, Laura, I was so impressed. I was so impressed with how well you presented yourself, how it looks like you're you're running a well-oiled machine and you're doing it with a sense of integrity. You can see that. Just jumping on your website, I was able to see that. And me as an entrepreneur, I can look at that and be so intimidated and feel like I'm behind. But when I hear the story, your story that matters so much about how you got there, how many, you know, barriers that you had to break through to get to where you are today, and the fact that you've been an entrepreneur for 10 years, there's a lot that's baked into the final product that you're offering people today. So when we get to know people and understand who they are, where they're coming from, and where their experience took them along their life and brought them to where they are today, then we don't look at them the same. But social media does that, right? We see the end product, we don't see the journey, we don't see the highs and the lows. All we see is that polished product. So that's a really important thing to remember. Thank you for sharing that.

Laura:

Of course, of course. You know what, Jillian? I know some really, really successful people. And the truth is that nobody knows what they're doing. Truly. Nobody knows. Everybody is figuring out stuff for the first time, winging it. Like, I've seen some things. I've seen the back end of some really successful businesses. And there are times where you're like, How, how have you gotten this far on this train wreck? Right. Like, nobody knows what they're doing. Everybody's very good. And I appreciate your compliments about my site. And and, you know, I'm really proud of all the things that I'm doing and I'm proud of the work that I do. And I'm I'm great at it. But there's nothing about my business that I'm like, yeah, that's perfect. That's never gonna change. I'm doing so many things, even right now, as we speak for the first time, and that's okay, that's part of it. So I think it's also important to just like keep that in mind is that anybody that you're looking at, like, don't put anybody on a pedestal. Everybody is figuring this out, and you can use them as proof of what's possible, like a why not me. Like if they can do it, of course I can do it sort of sort of way. But gosh, like nobody, nobody knows what they're doing.

Gillian:

Nobody. The truth is nobody knows what they're doing. And uh really when you get to know people, the person, and not just the persona, you realize that's true. And when you can celebrate that in each other, when you have relationships and such, and you can celebrate the journey, it makes life so much more enjoyable and more fun. Yeah, for sure. Laura, this has been such a rich conversation. And I know our listeners are taking so much from your honesty and wisdom. And I appreciate that so much too. If you could leave them with just one reminder or invitation today about the power of choice, what would it be?

Laura:

Yeah, you can do anything you want with your life. And I think that this is something that we forget sometimes, right? Is like you have the choice to change, to pivot, to try something new. If what you're doing isn't serving you, doesn't feel fulfilling, you're playing small, whatever it is, right? Like you can choose that to make a change. You can do whatever it is that you want with your life. And I think so many people say, oh, you know, like someday, someday I'll do that. But like, why not today? Just choose today. Someday can be today. But you have to make that choice.

Gillian:

And I'll use your words, Laura. You can have it all, but you don't have to do it all.

Laura:

No, you do not have to do it all. Have it all though. You can do that.

Gillian:

Wonderful. Thank you so much, Laura. I'm deeply grateful for your voice and your message. So before we wrap up, where can listeners connect with you online and follow along with your work?

Laura:

Yeah. So you can learn more about everything we're doing, the events, the membership, the podcast at this mothermeans business.com. You can also connect with me on Instagram at it's Laura Sinclair or This Mother at This Mother Means Business. You can check out the podcast, also called This Mother Means Business anywhere that you listen to podcasts. And if you made it this far in the show, we're officially friends. So I would love it if you would send me a DM and say hello. Absolutely.

Gillian:

I will definitely be recommending a lot of people to you, Laura. And I look forward to listening to more of your podcasts and reading more of your blogs because they've been nothing short of an inspiration for me. So I'm happy to share. Thank you so much for being here, Laura. Thank you for having me. This has been great. I've I've enjoyed it myself. Take care, Laura.

Laura:

Bye now.

Gillian:

Bye. That was Laura Sinclair, founder of This Mother Means Business. I hope this conversation resonated with you. One takeaway to carry with you: you always have a choice, even in the small moments. If it did, share it with a friend and check out the show notes to connect with Laura. Remember, you were created to thrive, not just survive. Until next time, take a breath and be still. Thank you so much for listening to Be Still and Live. If today's episode brought you a breath of peace or a moment of clarity, I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, or share it with someone who might need it too. For more resources to support your journey toward a slower, simpler, more connected life, visit SoleiloCoaching.com or connect with me on Instagram at Soleil Coaching. Until next time, be still and live.