The Reframe

The Risk of Playing It Safe with Kellyn Smythe

Douglas Bodin Episode 4

Playing it safe is often the go-to move for guardians trying desperately to protect their kids, but this may prove to be a bigger risk than giving them the tools to cope with life’s inevitable challenges. In today’s episode, Dr. Heather Tracy dons the host’s chair and welcomes Kellyn Smythe, the director of admissions at Pacific Quest, to unpack the risks of playing it safe with the emotional well-being of the children we care for. We begin with how the youth landscape has evolved in recent decades, how to cultivate resilience in our kids but in a gentler way, how to rebuild our collective societal trust, and how to improve mental health treatments and protocols for our youth. Then, Kellyn, who also serves on the boards of the Therapeutic Consulting Association (TCA) and the Young Adult Transition Association (YATA), goes on to unpack the work of Pacific Quest and how the company is playing its part for the emotional wellbeing of its youth, before detailing what parents are most concerned with now compared to 10 and 20 years ago. We also examine the reasons behind youth behavior, how this knowledge helps us to be better guardians, the innate recklessness of youth, and how we can address the negative aspects of American culture and society’s influence on our kids. Finally, we assess how the current insurance landscape places even more pressure on our youth, and Kellyn shares his hopes and dreams for the future of the youth mental health industry.


Key Points From This Episode:

  • Kellyn Smythe describes how the youth landscape has shifted in recent decades. 
  • How to cultivate resilience in kids, but gentler.  
  • Examining today’s general air of mistrust and how to rebuild society’s collective trust. 
  • How to fix mental health treatments and protocols for our youth.
  • The ins and outs of Pacific Quest and how it helps kids with their emotional well-being. 
  • What parents are most concerned with now, compared to the past few years. 
  • Why risky behavior (as an inherent part of adolescence) should be counselled, not shunned.  
  • Understanding why the youth behave the way they do and why this insight matters. 
  • How society and American culture influence youth behavior and how we can address this. 
  • Our guest describes what he’s most looking forward to in the future of youth mental health. 
  • How the insurance landscape compounds current youth pressures.
  • Connect with Kellyn Smythe. 


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Kellyn Smythe on LinkedIn 

Kellyn Smythe on YouTube

Pacific Quest 

Therapeutic Consulting Association 

Young Adult Transition Association 

Brat Camp 

‘Young Adults are in Crisis’ 

Richard Weissbourd

Dr. Heather Tracy on LinkedIn

New Summit Academy 

The Bridge

Douglas Bodin

The Bodin Group