Should We Vote for Hypocrites Who Hide Their Hypocrisy, or Celebrate It?

Texan US Senate candidate Ken Paxton is the best conservative candidate on the roster, with a string of solid policy work to his name — including against abortion and homosexuality. He only has a slight history of adulterous affairs. But as he says, “Imagine if we impeached everyone in Austin who had an affair — we’d be impeaching people for the next hundred years!” So should a Texan Christian not vote for him, when the alternative is a Democrat?

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SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello folks, Kevin Swanson here with Generations, and today I want to tell you the tale of two Texas politicians. Two kinds of good Christians. People vying for the U.S. Senate seat for the state of Texas in the 2026 elections. You got the Republican Ken Paxton, and then the Democrat, James Tallerico. Well, David French just loves Taller Rico. Now, David French is a big anti-Trumper, Christian commentator guy for Christianity to Today and National Review. He's a Presbyterian Church of America guy until a few years ago. So French wrote some stuff on Talarico in a recent opinion piece, and he says this Tallerico is one of the few openly Christian politicians in the United States who acts like a Christian. And by acting like a Christian, he reveals a profound contrast with so many members of the MAGA Christian movement that dominated American political life for 10 years. James Tallerico wears his Christianity on his sleeve. He's good on Jesus. He loves the Sermon on the Mount, except for that little piece in Matthew 5.19. He's good with the Good Samaritan, but he's not quite as hot on Matthew 15.4. And he's not a big John 14.6 guy, or not really in favor of Mark 9.48. He's not going to go for 1 Corinthians 6.9 or Leviticus 20, 13. But then again, neither do most evangelicals. And that brings up Ken Paxton. Ken Paxton, the Republican candidate, or one of the Republican candidates for the U.S. Senate position, would be also uncomfortable with Leviticus 2010, which occurs three verses prior to Leviticus 2013. You can look this up when you get time. Associated Press reports that Ken Paxton had the affair with a woman who worked for local developer Nate Paul, whose relationship with one of Texas's most powerful figures, Ken Paxton, was significant and central to Paxton's impeachment trial in 2023. Well, the Texas Tribune covered the questioning at the impeachment trial. This is one I want to focus in upon. So Paxton's attorney, Tony Busby, questioned Paxton's office manager on the witness stand, where she pointed out that Paxton had confessed to the whole staff concerning the affair with Mrs. Olsen in September of 2018. But some months later, the chief of staff said Paxton told her the affair was continuing and that he was still loving Mrs. Olson and that he wanted his chief of staff to be more accommodating to that. Then the attorney, cross-examining Paxton's chief of staff, quoted the Bible. Well, kind of. He said, all have sinned and fallen short of the grace of God, right? Sometimes people make stupid mistakes. Right? Then he asked the critical question just because somebody has an affair doesn't mean they're a quote criminal, does it? Yeah, as if to say, let's just not pay any attention to Leviticus 2010 for the moment. Well, then Paxton's attorney makes this comment, quote, imagine if we impeached everyone in Austin who had an affair. We'd be impeaching people for the next hundred years. I mean, it's no big deal. A capital crime in God's OT law, but really, come on, come on. It's not that big of a deal, guys. Or is it? Paxton's wife just divorced him on, quote, biblical grounds last summer. And this comes after reports of another alleged affair with a married woman, 57-year-old author and mother of seven, a big Christian influencer, including overseas jaunts together without their spouse's knowledge back in 2024, la-tidad-da. So now you've got to understand, Kim Paxton's a good conservative guy. I mean, he's among the very best. He's defended the Texas trigger law that bans most abortions once Roe is overturned a couple of years ago. He's warned that abortion providers could face civil criminal penalties under Texas law. He's launched legal challenges to federal policies allowing male distribution of abortion pills. He's investigated organizations accused of sending abortion drugs across state lines. He's for states' rights, opposes federal tyranny, advocates for religious liberty. He argued that county clerks with religious objections should not be forced to issue same-sex licenses after Obergefeld came down the pike. Now, Michael Emerson, director of the religion and public policy program at Rice University's Baker Institute for Public Policy, puts it this way. He says, since Trump, there seems to be ways for some people to maneuver around infidelity allegations, to explain it away to say what I do personally and what I actually fight for and advocate for are different things here. And here's also another interesting comment from the former chairman of the Republican Party of Texas, Matt Rinaldi. He endorsed Paxton over the other Republican. And here's what he said. I'm a Catholic and I don't believe in divorce. But I think the political climate we're in right now is one where Christians, conservatives believe that they're in an existential battle for the country. And I think in this battle they're choosing the candidates, time and time again that will help them with this fight for the values of America. I mean, come on, guys. We're saving a country here. Personal morality doesn't matter anymore. Everybody knows that. All right. So there's a few lessons to learn here in this tale of two Texans. One, if you live in Texas, I guess the obvious question is this: who am I going to vote for of these two good Christian fellows? Paxton or Talarico? Tallerico is a card-carrying Presbyterian seminary guy. And Ken Paxton is apparently a member in good standing down at Preston Wood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, as of the last report. It's all good here. And by the way, as far as me and my house goes, okay, as far as I'm concerned, I'm still sticking with Exodus 1820 for God's requirements of a magistrate. Moreover, you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness, and place such over them to be rulers of thousands. Let them judge the people at all times. In the long run, I think you're going to find that you're going to do better with men who fear God, men of truth, men who hate covetousness, as the best solution. But here, number two, the predominant line in all of this is personal morality doesn't really matter that much. We just got to save the Republic. I mean, we're in the existential battle for the country, guys. It does didn't matter for the Democrats in the 1960s, 1990s, this morality thing. It sure doesn't matter for the Republicans in the 2020s. The message is clear. Forget the moral foundations of the country. They're cracked beyond repair. We just need to duct tape the facades and pretend we have a healthy republic, okay? The message is clear. Forget the fact the family's messed up beyond all recognition. Who cares about the family? We're trying to save a nation here. Whatever that is. Forget the faith. We're battling for Christendom here. Forget God's law. We're battling for ethnic purity. Forget morality. We need to save the republic. Forget the fact that we're enslaved to sin. Let's fight for freedom from Rome and other tyrants. Now I know this is extremely unpopular with the conservatives in Jesus' day. You get stoned for saying things like this. But the Pharisees were saying, hey, we've never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say you will be made free? Jesus answered them, Most assuredly I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore, if the son makes you free, you shall be free indeed. So let's wrap this thing up. Let's not equate the kingdom of God to Rome or to America for that matter. Rome falls, America falls, the kingdom of God will do just fine. Thank you very much. And one more thing. Jesus wasn't really all that big on hypocrisy. In fact, this seems to be the larger concern in his ministry. Check out Matthew 23. You know, God is concerned about all sin. But hypocrisy is pretty scary. Now I think what's happening here, we're dealing with two kinds of hypocrisies. First, there's the hypocrite that opposes sexual perversion on the legal front while committing the most egregious sexual sins on the side himself. Then there's the hypocrite that takes on the name Christian, tells the world you follow Jesus, but only receives five percent of his words while outrightly and explicitly rejecting the other 95% of his words. In some respects, friends, we're all hypocrites. But here's another breakdown. I want to give you one more breakdown. There are three kinds of hypocrites. There's the hypocrite that confesses his hypocrisy and publicly asks for forgiveness. Okay, that's number one. Secondly, there's the hypocrite that hides his hypocrisy, that's the Republican. Then there's the hypocrite that celebrates his hypocrisy, that's the Democrat. I'm still not sure which hypocrite's doing better, the hypocrite that hides his hypocrisy or the hypocrite that revels in his hypocrisy. This modern American Jesus religion seems increasingly to look a lot like what I read in my personal devotions this morning from 2 Kings 17, where quote, you know, this was Israel at the end. This is the Samaritan area of Israel. They feared the Lord yet served their own gods according to the rituals of the nations from among whom they were carried away. To this day, they continue practicing the former rituals. They do not fear the Lord, nor do they follow their statutes or their ordinances, or the law and the commandment which the Lord had commanded the children of Jacob, whom he named Israel. So they feared the Lord and they feared the other gods, and then they didn't fear the Lord. So which was it? Did they fear the Lord or they did not fear the Lord while they were fearing the other gods and submitting to the statutes of the nations around them? So which was it? Well, today, Bill Jack with me on this one. How do we raise sons of character for leadership on generations? So, Bill, interesting race heating up down there in Texas way. And of course, we're North Texas here in Colorado, but I'm talking about southern Texas.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Well, Texans think we're North Texas. On the old map, it shows Colorado as being part of Texas.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

We're part of Texas, we're northern Texas, but a little bit more liberal.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

I tend to view it as Texas's southern Colorado. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

That's one way to put it as well. Well, this fellow Telarico, James Telarico, a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-everything Jesus isn't, but he loves his neighbor, at least if his neighbor's homosexual. And perhaps even his neighbor's wife. Given that he's not big on God's law, he probably begins with loving his neighbor and ends with loving his neighbor's wife. You follow me here? Meaning that I'm okay that James Tallarico is interpreting loving his neighbor and loving God as keeping the commandments of God. I don't think he brings that piece together.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, come on now. Come on. I mean, is it is it North Texas or is it southern Colorado? It's all in the way you look at things here. It's just in the way you see, it's your perspective. After all, after all, I'm thinking of a of what do you do with a Baptist pastor? A Baptist pastor. A Baptist pastor.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

So this is this is a who has been This is a Jesus follower, Baptist pastor. He's got the right amount of water dialed in for the baptisms. So he's got all that straightened out.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

He he is he was actively involved in in speaking for the downtrodden. He was pro-life. He was active in politics to and he was not he was not shy about his his position as a Christian in politics. And then he fell.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Well, yes, he did.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

And and he not only fell, but he had a child out of wedlock. He admitted to all this. He he refused to uh step down from his pastorate. He continued his political involvement and he changed his position on the issue of abortion.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

It sounds like you're talking about Jesse Jackson here.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Now good Baptist pastor guy.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Now, here there's you're you're talking about the hypocrisy that we we see. Yeah, that's one more version of this. It is one of the three versions. Okay. Number one, he wasn't repentant. He he was boastful about his sin. Yeah, he was. Okay, and that's Tallerico. Um but he he changed his position in order to garner popularity in order to gain power. For what purpose did he want to gain power so he could make a difference? That is the seduction that you have been dancing around in your analysis talking about this, and that is that's what drives this. It is the idea that if I can get in power, I will make a difference. And if I have to compromise on all my principles, no, just no. I still love Jesus. I still love Jesus. Okay. And I want to share his love with everybody. But to get to that point, we've got to compromise. The whole way. A few things. The whole way. No, just a few things.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

The whole way.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Eventually.

unknown 13:44

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

That's the problem. Now, Jesse Jackson's not the only one. Oh, I know. Okay. This is nothing new. When we talk about the the state of Texas, the tale of two Texas politicians here, you you can go back to Arkansas. Oh, yeah. Back in those days, right? Yeah. That's another good Baptist. Yes, another good Baptist. Yeah, there are a lot of good Baptists coming from the South. And touted his faith, talked about his faith openly. And after he was impeached.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

And we're not talking about Jimmy Carter here. We're talking about he was a good Baptist, too. Don't forget. Yeah, we got a lot of good Baptists. After Bill Clinton was impeached, every every Baptist president was a Democrat. Yeah. Just FYI. Yeah. But just something to tuck away. Okay. We're not saying anything more than that right now. Go ahead. Keep going.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Up said. But after he was impeached and ran for his second term, who put him back in office? Did his vote among evangelical Christians go down after he was exposed in his hypocrisy? It actually improved, I think.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

It improved by 94 and 98, or excuse me, 92 and 98. Yeah. 92 and 96. Right. It improved a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

So 20% of people voted for Clinton who claimed to be evangelicals, white evangelicals. And then on his second term, his second run, it was 22% who voted for him. And yet they knew of his hypocrisy. It is not that leadership reflects the culture. Who we put in positions of leadership reflect our values. What we really hold dear. And as you pointed out, we're here to save the country, so don't worry about his personal failings. We're here to establish conservatism, not to conserve the faith. So yes, this is not new. It's been around a while. We've seen it over and over and over. We just have short-term memory loss as Christians and as voters.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Do you still hang on to the point that character matters and that in the long run, we are not going to establish this nation upon good principles unless there are men of character who step in with those principles.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Yes. Now that's gotta be But here's the problem. What you've pointed out, and what we are experiencing is the sacred secular dichotomy. That, oh, this is sacred Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

I'm a pretty nice guy. I'm my personal Preston Baptist Church. And and but but the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday thing doesn't matter as well.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Now they won't say it that way, but they'll say, I've had people tell me, you've had people tell you, don't bring religion into politics. Right. Don't bring religion to politics. Well, if your religious beliefs do not inform your politics, if your world view does not inform your politics, if your faith does not inform your politics, you have no faith. Not a biblical faith.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

The impression that Tallerico is giving us, and that David French is giving us concerning what a Christian, what a follower of Jesus looks like, is different than what we find in the Word of God. Now I think an argument can be made that whatever Ken Paxton looks like doesn't look much like a Jesus follower either. But let's take a good hard look at James Tallerico, because he's the guy who wears his Christianity on his shoulder. I'd say far more than Ken Paxton or almost any other politician running for office today. He's very much out front about labeled as faith forward. Faith forward, and David French is impressed with him, et cetera, et cetera.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Are you impressed with David French? I'm not less less impressed. I'm not impressed with him.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

What's wrong with these guys? Here's what I'm asking. What's wrong with these guys? I question his faith. I do. Yeah. I question the faith of James Calarico, and I question the faith of Christianity.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Yeah. I think he may have put his trust in Christ, but he's not he's not he's not thinking like a Christian. He's not thinking as a Christian. He's not he's not taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

I'm I'm wondering. Now you know what repentance is, don't you? Repentance is a change of mind. Right. I'm wondering if David French has repented, that he he has had a fundamental change of mind concerning God's law, the nature of sin, what Jesus did on the cross to pay for our sins, etc. I wonder if he has fundamentally compromised all of that because he refuses to repent and have a metone, a change of mind, a fundamental change of mind in terms of his understanding of God's word, understanding of the definition of sin and all the rest of it. To the extent that he apparently is reading James Talerico wrongly. The idea that James Tallarico represents anything of a Christian, I don't get that from any of his talks. No. No. He's so far away, so far removed from what the gospel really teaches, which is what? Which is that we have broken God's law. We have transgressed the laws of God, as revealed in the Old and New Testaments, including the law that ref reflects the issue of adultery, homosexuality, and these other sins against God's law, abortion with the same category. We're not to murder, and to murder a child in the mother's womb is another violation of the sixth commandment, but that he will continually uh compromise on the commandments of God indicates to me that he takes sin as no big deal or sin not as sin. And therefore, uh whatever Jesus was doing on the cross is of no value whatsoever. Evidently he didn't die on the cross for sin because there is no sin as defined by God's law anyway.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

The death on the cross was not just not efficacious, it was a mockery. If Tallereko is right. Now, here's a guy who openly talks about Jesus and faith, but his actions do not support his talk. He doesn't walk the walk. On the other hand, you have Ken Paxton whose actions appear to be in line with God's law.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

His political actions appear to be in line with God's law, while his private actions appear to contradict.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

And he is unrepentant. At least thus far, as far as we can tell. So he has not talked his faith out. So both of these are misrepresentations of a biblical worldview. And as we've pointed out, everybody has feet of clay. That's why we have a table so nobody sees our feet. That's why I wear shoes a lot, because I don't want people looking at my feet of clay. But you don't have to vote for these guys. No.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Now, here's here's the last question here before we get into where I really want to go, and that is the character of a godly leader. Does character matter? And and would you would you prefer a man with character, a man who's consistent to principles, uh, and and to some degree biblical principles, to some, I would say significant degree biblical principles. You mean like a hundred percent. Consistent to those biblical principles. No, there's nobody who's gonna be perfect. Right. But that's my point. But somebody who's substantially a man of character, a man who fears God. I mean, I can imagine there are people in politics that have a a fair amount of character and commitment to biblical principles, and yet they may not be true Christians. And I can see that could happen. Uh but what would you prefer? What would you like to see with a candidate?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Bottom line, bottom line. And that that's the problem here is because we're dealing with with people who are fallen. Right. We're dealing with systems that are set up by God. The jurisdiction of government is set up by God. It's a minister of God, but it's run by people who are fallen. And people's pride, and that's what this is all about here, whether it's Jesse Jackson refusing to repent of his illicit affair and changing his view on the R.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Would you vote for Jesse Jackson if he ran for president in 2004?

SPEAKER_00 22:31

And here's the here's the reason. People are are flawed. Okay, both sides of the aisle. You got flawed people. So how do we decide how we're going to vote? What's your critical mass issue? The critical mass issue is you go back to the party platforms and examine what the party says we hold to be true, what we hold to be integrity, what we hold to be candidates who have character, because they have to line up with our party platform.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

What if they don't? What if they run on that party? But you know they contradict their platform with the city. That happens all the time.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

That happens, that happens both sides of the eye. Oh, sure it does. Then what you do is you hold the candidate. It is our job as citizens to be well informed and hold our candidates to the principles that we say we hold dear. Just as Christians, as brothers in Christ, we hold each other accountable to God's word. Just as when we see somebody like a Jesse Jackson fall or a Ken Paxton or a Talarico proclaims something that is untrue as far as doctrine, that we go to them and we say, here's what God's Word says. Bring yourself in line with God's word. We have to have an outside objective standard by which we judge not just what they say they believe, but how they act.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Well, and the outside standard has got to be the word of God. And I'm sticking with Exodus 1820, men who fear God, hate covetousness, and love the truth. Those are essentials for me. And that's why it's a judgment call. It's always a judgment call. That's why coveted at all.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

Every time I train students in the political process and they have an opportunity to interview elected officials, I demand that students during the QA time ask the question that you gave me years ago, and that is, do you fear God? Because that is that is right there in Exodus 18. It is, do you fear God? Now, from that flows everything else, because will they make mistakes? Will they vote wrong, at least? Yes, will they have moral feelings? More than likely, because the pressure cooker of power it it creates the call to compromise. It magnifies the call to compromise. You Christians, just give a little. You're too rigid on this issue of pro-life. But you need to be elected because you can accomplish great things. So a Jesse Jackson, for example, does what? He moves from pro-life to pro-death. Just so he can gain power, so he can do good. But who decides what is good? Who defines what is good? It is not man that defines what is good. Micah 6.8 says, He has told you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God. You can't do justice unless you define it properly. You can't love kindness unless you define that properly, and God defines those. The only way you can do those things is if you first walk humbly with your God. If you fear God, and then as a person who's in elected office, then as a person who rises in industry or business or in entertainment, then you can have a standard for doing justice and loving kindness, but you first have to humble yourself before God, get yourself out of the way. It's not it's not about Ken Paxton, it's about him serving the true God. It's not about about Jesse Jackson, it's about whom he serves. And that's the problem. Whether it's Bill Clinton, George Bush, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, they need to fall on their faces before a holy God and humble themselves, and then and only then can they administer justice properly? And then and only then can they love their neighbor as themselves.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

I think of a common denominator between Paxton and Taller Rico as I'm thinking through this, and I think it really is the common denominator between the liberal denominations and the evangelical churches today, and that effectively is a squishy view of Jesus, a squishy view of grace, a squishy view of the gospel, a squishy view of the church and church discipline, a squishy view of the law of God, the judgment of God, heaven and hell, and all of that. Um, you know, the lawyer saying, you know what, all sin come short of the grace of God, supposed to be the glory of God, but you missed that part. I know. Uh, I mean, come on, nobody's perfect here. You know, only God is perfect, right? And they used that on the defense stand as he defended his Ken Paxton guy who apparently had had this affair, and this attorney is now defending him using his own doctrine. But at the end of the day, I think what's going on here is that these politicians have the wrong Jesus. They have the wrong gospel, they have the wrong God. They they don't respect the word of God, they don't respect the law of God, they blow it off. It's no big deal to them. There is no fear of God before their eyes, either Talleric or Paxton. Neither of them fear God. Otherwise, they their hypocrisy would come out, they would admit it, they would confess it, and they would repent.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Here's here's we're not seeing that. Yeah. Here's what 2 Timothy 3, 5 through 7 says. English Standard Version. Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Is that not Tallerico? Avoid such people, for among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women burdened with sins and led astray by various passions. Isn't that not Ken Paxton? Okay. Always learning. Here's the key thing. They're always learning and never able to arrive at the knowledge of the truth. Chief issue, chief sin, pride, not humility. Chief problem, they rely on their own reason, they rely on the doctrines of men, and they teach them, okay? They teach this, teach the precepts of men as the doctrines of God. They rely on their own reason rather than God's revelation. And that's the bottom line. They're forever learning. I'm not saying that these men are not accomplished in their fields. I'm not saying that they're stupid. I'm not saying that they are that they are unaccomplished in any way. I'm saying that they're forever learning, but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Do not elect men such as that. Do not, do not, do not do that unless they fear God. They don't take bribes, they love the truth.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

I put together a chapter in my book, Under God, on preparing our sons, specifically, to be future leaders in the civil magistrate, in the political realm. And I came down to 10 points, and I'm sure there's more to share, but here's 10 points that I landed on in uh chapter 10 of my book. Good leaders fear God and not men. They are not subject to the whims of the parties, the populists, or the popular media. They do not fear the electorate on election day, for they know that their political future is always in the hand of God. Number two, good leaders are faithful in small things, governing themselves and their families well. Number three, good leaders are guided by God's laws and they will judge righteously. Number four, good leaders are peacemakers. They do not pick unnecessary fights. Number five, good leaders are competent to lead, to communicate, to motivate, to organize, and to strategize. Number six, good leaders know where the organization has been, where the organization presently exists, and where the organization needs to go. Number seven, good leaders have the courage to speak the truth, to stand for truth, and to follow through on the commandments of God, Joshua 1.7. Number eight, good leaders love the people they serve and they hate tyranny. They are not motivated by power and money, nor do they feel the need to centralize control over the nation and economy. Number nine, good leaders hate covetousness and love the truth. They do not exaggerate their own accomplishments. Number ten, one more thing, good leaders are usually forgotten in the annals of world history. Now there was found in the city a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city, yet no one remembered that same poor man.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Should we not all aspire to be like that man? I think so. Because we will not be forgotten in the eyes of our Lord Jesus Christ. Exactly right. Who will say, Well done, good and faithful servant.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

And there's so much more to say, but that comes in my next book, Under God. My guest today in studio, co-host today, is Bill Jack from Worldview Academy. Thank you, my friend. It's been a good discussion. And I hope this has been edifying for you. Again, our goal is to be, of course, a repentant ourselves, believing in Jesus, washed in the blood of the Lamb, living a life of principle, following Jesus. Yes, the life of repentance because nobody's perfect here. Humility, the fear of God. Let's inculcate these first in ourselves, and then in our children as we raise them in our homes and teach them as they sit in the house, as they walk by the way, as they rise up and as they lie down. That's the vision for the next generation. And this is Kevin Swanson inviting you back again next time as we continue to lay down a vision for the next generation. This has been a production of the Generations Media Network. For more information, go to generations.org/slash media.