What Does the Bible Say About Space Exploration and UFOs? — What Does the Bible Say About That?

Is settling Mars a biblical idea? Does God want us building colonies on other planets? Kevin, Josh, and Danny investigate the secular and humanistic motives behind space exploration, and what exactly Scripture says we are given dominion over. Then they switch to uncovering the truth about UFOs – and the scriptural, historical, and current evidence that they are spiritual, not physical.

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SPEAKER_02 0:05

Welcome friends to Generations. Now uh we're doing another segment of What Does the Bible Say About That with Joshua Suiso, also Danny Craig in studio with me today. And uh and why is it important for us to know what the Bible says about this or that? The answer is that uh well, we live in a brave new world. We live in a world that is constantly coming up with ideas that are dangerous, that uh do not reflect a biblical world and life view at its foundation. And I think if there's ever been a time where God's people need to be equipped to every good work and be able to give an answer and to be able to know how to uh address issues, uh wow, it's got to be the present day. You talk about all of the brave new science and the crazy ideas that are coming out of some of those powerful scientists, corporate leaders, politicians of the present day. Josh, it seems to me that we need to know what is biblical and what is not biblical. What does the Bible say about things like space exploration, UFO, space settlements, even the paranormal? These things are extremely popular. Young men are taken by these things increasingly. I think they always have been, uh, taken by diversions, satanic diversions. And I think we as Christian leaders, as Christian pastors, as fathers, as mothers need to be able to answer these things. Now, fresh on my mind is this question of space exploration UFOs and space settlements, largely because I've spent the last year of my life working on seventh-grade science. And as part of my astronomy section, I've included a section on Elon Musk, uh settlement on Mars UFOs and extraterrestrial life. And as you know, a majority of Americans now believe in extraterrestrial life. And many believe that there are extraterrestrial life forms on Earth today. In fact, a U.S. senator, congressman, et cetera, have come forward and said, we believe these things. Uh these are huge documentaries just recently released, uh, in which these leading people in American governance acknowledge the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life. There's been four congressional hearings thus far since 2021 on the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life. These are serious congressional hearings in which congressmen and congresswomen are believers in these things. And of course, as I said, the majority of Americans now believe in it. And uh and there are more paranormal shows, more shows on UFOs, the extraterrestrial thing, than we've seen in the history of this country. That being the case, it seems like we have to give an answer.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

We need to know what the Bible says about these things, Josh. Amen, Kevin. Yeah, and I it really shouldn't surprise us that this is happening as we think about how the secular worldview is becoming dominant in our culture. People naturally have a longing for purpose. They have a longing for relationship, and to think that we are in a purposeless, random universe and there's no relationship with anybody else outside of ourselves as human beings, it's rather cold and lonely and frightening. And so it makes sense that in the secular context and a kind of a scientism context, that UFOs, extraterrestrials are going to become popular because it appeals to our scientific and sci-fi kind of mindset in the modern day, but it can become a new religion functionally.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Yeah, and it's escaping the reality that is defined and described by Scripture. This certainly requires a solid perspective of a biblical worldview as related to reality. What is real? What is real is God's creation. What's real are animals, humans, demons, angels, and God. That's real. That's the real world. Now, you can run around pretending other things, and that's what, of course, fantasy and science fiction is forcing our young people into a pseudo-reality. And many, many want to run into a pseudo-reality because they really don't want to accept God's reality. So this ties into worldview issues, especially when you bring up issues like Elon Musk, who wants to expand the consciousness of the universe by planting colonies all over the universe. Obviously, the idea of a space research center on Mars is a multi-trillion dollar endeavor. Even to put a hundred people on Mars would cost something like $50 to $100 trillion, which is the gross world product for any given year. Yeah, we just don't have the resources to do that, and that would only support.00001% of the Earth's population anyway. And um, the closest, most habitable planet discovered thus far would be KOI 45604. And this planet is 55 million years away by rocket ship traveling at 38,000 miles per hour. So the idea that Elon Musk is going to get his first settlement on a planet 55 million years away. You know what? You know what I'd like to do right now, Josh? I'd like to put most of my savings into SpaceX. That I think is my next goal.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Well, the stock market seemed to respond pretty well.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

I mean, this guy has such a wonderful vision. It's so it's so good. It's it's so solid, it has such a good world view. I need to run out there with all the other lemmings and put, you know, all of my life savings into SpaceX. That's what I need to be doing right now. Aaron Powell Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Well, and so if we think about how our culture lacks a sense of history, future history, and future hope, it's not a surprise that they're gonna try to put their resources into some other vision, right? Something big and excited and glorious uh that that they can see out in the future. But as you said, it's not gonna be a likely vision to come to pass. It sounds like an act of desperation, yeah. The way you put that.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

Right. We need something to do with the any way to avoid God and his definition of reality that we get from his word. But let's say, what does the word of God say about space exploration and space settlements? Well, the the the verse that came to my mind, and I have it in my seventh grade science book on astronomy the heaven, even the heavens are the Lord's, but the earth he has given to the children of men. That's Psalm 115 and 16 pretty much solidifies the case. We get the earth. Yeah, and we have been challenged to take dominion of it.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

That's I think in Genesis 1. Yeah, it's noteworthy too in Psalm 8, which does mention the heavens. You know, it actually brings this out. It says, Um, when I look at the heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon, and the stars that you've set in place, what is man that you're mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? So one of the purposes of the heavens is to humble us, to show us the majesty of God. Uh, but then what does the Psalm go on to? Yet you've made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor, you've given him dominion over the work of your hands, and then it talks about the birds and the ocean and the beasts.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

In other words, it gives the domain and aliens on planet X45.012. No, I didn't catch that there at all. Uh so that so our responsibility is to take dominion of this earth. And I I have to say, as I read Psalm 115, verse 16, I don't think that God has assigned the moon or asteroids where we need to be mining other planets. I don't see it. Now, I'm not opposed to discovering something about the stars so that we can give him the glory for the creation of it, but not to take the minion of them. Do you see the distinction I make there? Because I don't see that in Genesis 1, Psalm 8, or here in Psalm 115, 16.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Yeah, but if you have a secular worldview where we're concerned that the earth is gonna run down or we're gonna end up just destroying it through our own irresponsibility, you can see why people are thinking about escape hatches, literal escape hatches, where can we go? But the Christian view of history and a Christian view of eschatology uh pushes us away from that because we believe history is going somewhere. We believe the Noeic covenant that creation will be preserved, and we believe in the Christian hope of last things that Jesus is coming back, he's gonna raise the dead, he's gonna bring in the new heavens and the new earth, and so we don't have this worldview of abandon the earth and everything's gonna run down, right? It's quite a bit different.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

And I think also in terms of worldview, we know that God is in control. That's right. And so we we have here man and scientific man, technological man, is presenting himself as in control of his own destiny. And this is again a basic worldview difference. And does world do worldviews mat in other words, we don't have to just simply ask the question Um, does God want us building colonies on planets that are 55 million years away by spaceship? I don't think we need to be answering those questions as much as we are to be answering the question, is man in control of his own destiny? Uh man cannot guarantee his own survival, and technology attempted without the fear of God will only end in futility and self-destruction. So, so God is in control of every atom in this universe, he's in control of every asteroid that could swing into the orbit of this earth. And by the way, the odds of a five-kilometer asteroid hitting this earth is once in every million years. The odds of a 50-kilometer wide asteroid hitting the earth is somewhere around one in every hundred million years, uh, meaning that we don't really have to be too concerned about it. By the way, I'll also check out how many years would we have to estimate when it would be hit the earth? And you know, there's quite some time. You still have quite some time to make that decision. But even if we were considering that sort of thing, we have to ask ourselves is the asteroid going to destroy the earth apart from the sovereign control of Almighty God? And and we certainly can have great confidence that God is preserving this earth because of his promise to Noah. That's right. And then I I think also Isaiah 13, 9 and 10 ties in. Behold, the day of the Lord comes, cruel with both wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate. He will destroy the sinners from it, for the stars of heaven and their constellations will not give their light, the sun will be darkened in its going forth, and the moon will not cause its light to shine. So who's doing this? My question is, who's doing it? Is the sun doing this? Are the asteroids doing it on their own? No, God is in control of maintaining the earth and destroying the earth, both and uh Job 9, 7, he commands the sun, it does not rise, he seals off the stars. And then again, Job 38, can you bind the cluster of Pliades or loose the belt of Orion? So those are some of the verses that came to my mind. I'm throwing it back on the table for you, Josh.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Any other verses that tie into this question? Well, in uh Colossians 1 speaks about Christ and how all things are held together in him. It says, For by him all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through him and for him, and he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And this speaks again to the way that we view history. Christ is in control, Christ is holding everything together. We don't need to fear what's going to take place. He's reigning, and he's going to return and fix everything that's broken. We're not gonna we're not we're not gonna have to fix these things ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Today we're asking the question uh what does the Bible say about space development, space exploration, space uh stations, and uh establishing uh some sort of space colonies? And uh I'm gonna shift direction of the UFOs in just a moment, but is there anything else to say about this? And uh Josh, I don't know what your position is, but I I I believe our focal point does need to be to take dominion of our Earth. We're responsible for this globe, not for anything else in the solar system or beyond. Aaron Powell Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Well, of course, we also have the question of Earth's orbit, which we've seen has come to be very important if you think of all the satellites, if you think about how warfare could be changing. And in my mind, I'm thinking the orbit of this earth is part of that dominion task as well. There's sort of an interrelationship of these things, it seems, increasingly. So I'm not sure what your thoughts are on the orbit question.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

I'm okay with within the orbit of the globe itself. Yeah. Because it's still the gravitational pole. You're still dealing with the forces that are provided for the globe itself. But once you get beyond that, I question the purpose of spending trillions upon trillions of dollars for what?

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, unless there was some resource that could be leveraged for the purpose of dominion taking on the Earth. I can't think of anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

What would they you know, find um an optamium? There's nothing really close available. An optamium? You know, something uh some kind of amazing other element. Yeah, what is it, Krypton or whatever that could come from some distant planet. Yeah. Um I can't think of any reason to be going to any other planet, I think, to this point. Uh the reason for it, and I guess this is why worldview ties in so much to all that's being done in science. If there's no fear of God in the scientist, then they're going to be barking up the wrong trees and funding the wrong projects and developing a brave new science that is going to be counterproductive to mankind. And that's, I think, what is going on here. Because of the bad worldview, because of a refusal to fear God, the end result is going to be counterproductive to true science. They're they're seeking to prove evolution. I think that's probably number one. Number two, they're seeking uh an escape hatch uh in case an asteroid might uh a wayward asteroid hits the the earth sometime in the future. So uh so let's move on to UFOs and extraterrestrial life just for a second. Um the biblical stuff on this is is very important as I see it. You know, it's interesting that so much of the UFO genre includes this thing called orbs. Have you heard of orbs? They're bright lights, huge bright lights, and they they're they they they say that the orbs that these fighter pilots and others are seeing uh ties into the same thing. They fly information, they have been known to shut down nuclear missile sites. Apparently, they also appear during periods of meditation. Uh one man testifying before Congress said this we don't know what we saw, but what we saw changed our lives in what we think about everything. It was incredibly profound. We noticed the object. This is the pattern across all encounters. Someone sees a light. Okay, now follow this. They pay attention to the light, then the object performs for you. The object comes down to investigate you. Why does it come after we notice it? Now, this is common among the eyewitness accounts of the UFOs. And by the way, we have 19th century persons reported this very same thing occurring in seances, floating balls of light, light responding to participants, of apparitions appearing as spheres before forming shapes. The ancient Indian Veda texts also refer to the same thing. Also, 18th century science journals speak of people witnessing self-propelled, luminous globes demonstrating a purposeful motion, quote, unquote. Now, I've done a fair amount of research on these orbs that uh so this is not the first time that it's been witnessed by these fighter pilots, and you know, of course, Donald Trump has just review re uh released all this material for us to get all excited about. But uh, I think Isaiah 8 was one passage that came to my mind, and I I want to turn this over to you, Josh, in just a moment. When they say to you, seek those who are mediums and wizards who whisper and mutter, should not a people seek their God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the living? To the law and to the testimony, if they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. And I think what happens is these there's this witness stuff that's happening. The only way to interpret is by God's word.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

That's right. Yeah, and interestingly, a lot of these um uh testimonies, they have, again, this sci-fi element to them because that's sort of our modernist scientific worldview that we're working from. And yet uh demonic apparitions is a very reasonable explanation for a lot of these experiences. Not that it would explain every experience, there could be some that have other natural explanations, but uh the presence of demons that could either appear in the garb of what would make sense to a 15th century person or in the garb of the modern sci-fi feel uh makes quite a bit of sense. I'm reminded of 2 Corinthians 11 that Satan him, Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Uh, and there is this light component that you mentioned in many of those testimonies as well. In terms of a biblical theory of reality, what exists?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

We talk about metaphysics, right? Metaphysics is just simply the the study of reality. What is real? And what is real is given to us by God's word. And I don't believe we should go anywhere else for it. I don't believe we we should go anywhere else for it. When defining the categories of what is real, we have to rely on God's word. What do we have? We have plants, animals, humans, angels, demons, and God Himself. That's right. Nothing else. No other categories. And to introduce other categories is is I think a distraction at best and demonic at worst. I guess that's the way I would look at it. By the way, the demons are very interested in distraction diversion. Think of Acts 16, 18, Matthew 13, 19, Luke 4, 33. You know, instances in which demons are going, hey, look at this over here, hey, look at this over here, hey, look at this over here. And Jesus and Paul and the apostles are like, no, you know, please shut up. You know, we're gonna get on with what we need to be doing here. So this distraction-diversion thing is very strong with the demonic uh presence. So so either what we're seeing is human technology, angels or or demons.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

It's gotta be one of the others. Can you unpack the theology of that a little bit more? Because what I hear you saying is all that is real is what is specifically revealed. And there's a there's a broader theological foundation that you're invoking there to sort of box that in. Can you unpack that a little bit more?

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Well, I mean, I I I think what I'm saying is that we have to go to God's word first and foremost for truth, for absolute truth, to the law and to the testimony. If it's not according to the law and the testimony, it's because there is no truth in it. So so when we're talking about fundamental uh realities, what constitutes reality, we have to go to God's word. Fundamentally, what what who what and who are we going to believe when it comes to answering the most fundamental uh questions in life, and that is what are the things that exist? What are the categories of existences? We have to go to God's word. So I would stay there, but in terms of a biblical view of extraterrestrial life, which is the question before us right now, here are some of the verses that come to my mind. And um uh Romans 8 20 to 22 speaks of the creation subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it in hope, because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now, which, as I see it, means that the fall of man into sin occurred on planet earth about six thousand years ago, and yet the effects have have impacted the entire creation. The curse has fallen upon the moon, the sun, the rest of the heavenly bodies as well, and the heavens are included in this promise of judgment found in 2 Peter chapter 3, that the heavens and the earth, which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. Evidently, God's judgment that comes upon the earth for man's sin has affected the heavens as well as the earth. So that would be, I think, some of the biblical uh background I would provide for this. Any other thoughts on this?

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Yeah, well, maybe a way to put it is that the cosmic view of history at a cosmic scale that the Bible gives us has at its center what's happening on the earth in terms of God's redemptive purposes, in terms of the angels and demons, in terms of Satan, in terms of the saints and Christ. It's there's an earth-centric working out of God's purposes. And it's not just like he's doing this on multiple planets, you know, there's Earth, and then there's this other planet with these aliens, and he's repeating it, but that cosmic history is defined by this book. And so the scope of the scriptures themselves reinforce the fact that they're they're giving us this comprehensive perspective.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

It was also interesting to me that uh science fiction novelists and and believers in this extraterrestrial religion, they don't escape the reality of the world of death. You think about Spielberg's E.T., where E.T. is about to die. I think he does die. If I'm not mistaken, he dies. Um also Rocky in Hail Mary. There's a new movie out called Project Hail Mary. That's right. Project Hail Mary. And there's this character named Rocky, and he is the last survivor of his crew. Evidently, Adam's fall into sin affected Rocky and his population on this foreign planet. I just make that point simply because the the the science fiction authors can hardly avoid the effects of Adam's fall in affecting not just the earth, but the heavens as well. It's interesting. It's just a takeaway. Um but because Adam and his posterity fell under the curse of death and judgment, God sent his son to take upon himself human nature. It's very important. Not any other alien nature out there, but human nature in order to bring about the salvation of men. And there's no biblical account that he's done it for any others. But here's the other thing Christ also once died for all and only once. And he will not die again. So there's no further need for him to incarnate himself into some other creature and die one more time. Does that make sense? I take that from Hebrews 9.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Yeah, and the new heavens and the new earth, of course, are all reconciled through the work of Christ when we come to Revelation 21, 22. That it leads to a cosmic resolution for all the all that exists physically in this new heavens and new earth. Good point. Which is another part of the goal of history. Because he will reconcile all things to himself. Exactly. Good point.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Any other scripture that comes to mind? Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.: Kevin, I had a question which is, you know, you've kind of articulated why unbelievers might be taken with this, but I think we've seen that a fair number of professing Christians and believers are taken with these matters as well. What what what's that root of that fascination and proclivity towards these topics for believers, you think?

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Well, I mean, I think sometimes it's for young people it's just and diversion. It's uh uh the fun, shiny object. You know, hey, we live in a world where people are taken by circus sideshows. It's a big deal. And uh and yet I think there's also a fan fascination with the occult, which is a huge risk. The occult is not necessarily uh just a word for the demonic. The occult is the idea of a fascination with the unknown, that which is unknown, or that which is only known by a few. And this this is what draws people into Bigfoot or the Loch Dance monster. Uh Josh, I uh Danny, I think it's it's it's a dangerous thing uh because you become part of this small group of people. In fact, I ran into a guy in a coffee shop in Oregon about two weeks ago, and he said, I saw Bigfoot. I was out hunting with my buddies and I saw him, but my buddies who were standing right next to me could not see him. Now, this is typical for the occult because in the occult what happens is you get the experience, you get the knowledge of it, but others are exempted from that. And so there's a secret knowledge that is attractive to us. Maybe it's a little bit of power involved with it. Um, but yeah, but also it could be a fascination with that which is demonic as well.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Yeah, it's interesting in the Colossians that Paul is dealing with a something of a secret religion and false worship and colossae. And uh he talks about some of these matters and he connects it to the realm of the spiritual, uh, such as Colossians uh 2, verse 18. He says, Let no one disqualify you insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind. And then elsewhere in Colossians, he's dealing with the principalities and powers. So I think what's happening in Colossee is people are they were interested in these spiritual beings and what's happening with them, and can we get secret knowledge from them? And Paul keeps hammering home Christ is central, Christ is supreme. Uh Colossians 2, verse 15, he disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame. And so over and over again, Paul keeps bringing them back to hold fast to the head. Don't don't focus on these other things, don't focus on these false religions. And so I even think that we we see something of the curiosity that continues to replicate itself throughout uh history here.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Today the question: what does the Bible say about space exploration, UFOs, space settlements? Honestly, brothers, I think these are absolutely critical questions, must be addressed for our young people, for all of us. Very important we apply the right worldview to this. And that's why the seventh grade science course, I felt, had to include a segment on this in the astronomy sections that we're going to bring about. We want a distinctively biblical worldview that's that our young people not be led astray by these strange ideas that have pretty much captured the minds and the hearts of the majority of Americans in the day in which we live.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

And I think it's getting to be the a dangerous thing. Yeah. Kevin, I think one of the questions that's probably coming up here for the for the parents that are listening is okay, but my children have been caught up in this diversion. I have one son who's very taken with video games that play with the occult. I've got another son that's, you know, building his own, you know, universes in another video game, and and it just seems like they're disconnecting from reality and from us relationally. What should we do?

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Well, you can't replace something with nothing, and I I really believe what you want to do is bring in a uh uh uh God's reality. And ultimately God's reality is better than the f fraudulent fake realities that we construct for ourselves. Let's go out into the real world, discover what God is doing. Let's read the real stories of what people have done for the cause of Jesus. Let's let's let's get back into real reality, go experience real reality together as a family on a missions trip. Or let's let's you know, you you know, you've got to break the spell somewhat. Right. But I don't think you can do it by purely a fast, although I recommend that, you know, fasting from these forms of media or what have you. But I think replacing it with something far more engaging and uh far more important and significant, in which our children are reconnecting with God's reality and God's kingdom. Josh, thoughts on this?

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Yeah, absolutely. And that means you know, do it alongside of them. It's not going to be as simple as pull the plug, get rid of it, don't talk about it anymore, go out and do something with them, invite them into an opportunity, go somewhere and do something for somebody else. Uh, and also, yeah, if it's like uh if it's literature, you know, replace it with better literature, read it together, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:51

I think sometimes these things can be an indication of relational breakdown in the home. And I'm not sure, you know, if it is sort of a chicken and egg thing, but I think maybe taking some relational inventory, you know, what what's going on in our family relationships such that uh a son or a daughter would rather spend three hours on their computer in their room instead of being in fellowship. Maybe there's some some relational breakdowns we need to address.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Restore relationships, ask for forgiveness, and then do fun things together. Yeah. And and do the build the family economy, you know, something fun and uh and go on field trips, go on this, you know, go across America and just see the great things that have occurred in this country and history. You know, there are things we can do together that would be really make memories. Go camping, go hike Everest.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

And I think something of a vision for what could be accomplished in a young man's life. Absolutely, right? What could you do with the three hours that you spend every night doing things that might not amount to much? Well, you could you could prepare for the future, you could build a business, you could prepare yourself for marriage, you could learn child training, you could learn how to edify people in the body. I mean, so many real things that would actually be rewarding. And that's how God designed it for these relationships and these ministries and these work efforts to produce us a sense of satisfaction as we give ourselves to his kingdom.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

And friends, this is why we want to come back to these worldview issues on this program. Uh one percent of American Gen Zers hold to a biblical worldview. Now, 56% think they're Christians, only 1% think like Christians. They just don't have this worldview. And uh so we're we're putting our energies together with this radio program and all of our media in order to root and ground this generation of young people on a biblical worldview perspective and and really trying to bring this into a daily radio program that comes at it from all these different facets in these directions. I'm guessing there are people listening to the program who are going, what? These guys are taking this position uh on on space exploration, et cetera. Why should we even be addressing these issues? I think we need to address all issues to equip the men and women of God to every good work. And as you know, Danny, as you know, Josh, we are in the midst of a one-month fundraising campaign, which we we're hoping that uh others you know agree with us and say, yes, we need to equip this generation of young people. We need to equip parents as well as young people to a distinctively biblical worldview. And and hopefully that we be discipling our children, we understand how to think so that we can disciple others in how to think as we sit in the house, as we walk by the way, as we rise up, as we lie down. Obviously, family discipleship is is really, really an essential element of our our program. Also, uh, we're putting together this curriculum, and and so much of it has been um uh done by uh homeschool graduates as well as uh homeschool parents who really have a commitment to this. And uh so, friends, if you would like this to reach tens of thousands of families, not just in this country, but also around the world, and you want to get behind the program, please uh consider uh funding the program for us. Just go to generations.org slash give, and uh you can choose the Worldview program, this Generations Radio program, or the international outreach. Uh just say, hey, I want to get behind this aspect of the Generations Ministry, and uh we would appreciate any kind of support you could provide for our ministry. Danny, uh we are uh hoping that uh we can join arms with others. You know what's it's really a blessing when we realize we're not the only ones who are committed to to this ministry, to this work of discipling the nation, so to speak, one family at a time. And just to join arms with hundreds of other parents. Obviously, they don't have time to put into this, but if they had resources, they can be just as important as we are to the task.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Yeah, Kevin, I think uh the encouraging stories that we hear of how these programs, these resources have transformed families, conversions by God's grace have been reported to us through these materials, and this is a sort of thing that we want to see expand across the globe.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Yeah. Um young children in our homes converted and really passing on the faith, that you know, there not be this interruption, this generational glitch where somehow our children are leaving the faith. Uh, this is our prayer. This is the burden of the ministry, is to pass on the faith by family discipleship and the distribution of solid biblical materials through the generations ministry. If you'd like to support, please. Generations.org slash gift. And this is Kevin Swans, as well as Joshua Suishow and Danny Craig, inviting you back again next time as we continue to lay down a vision for the next generation. This has been a production of the Generations Media Network. For more information, go to generations.org slash media.