Hard Hats & Hair Styles: Inside the Trades Part 1

In this episode of Untangle It All, we step outside the salon and into the world of construction trades.

For the first time ever we’re doing a two part interview series. In Part 1, we sit down with Kayleigh to talk about what it’s really like working in trades like sheet metal, HVAC, and electrical. From getting started in the industry to what the job sites are actually like day to day, she shares the realities most people never hear about.

We talk about training, learning on the job, the challenges of working in a male dominated field, and the surprising things people get wrong about trades work.

Whether you’re curious about the trades, thinking about a career change, or just want to hear what life is like on the other side of the job site, this episode gives you a real look behind the scenes.

Part 2 drops next week.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Emily. And Sam. The podcast where the salon tea is hot. The clients are iconic. And nothing is off limits. Let's dive in. Hi everyone. We're sharing mics tonight, so that's why that sounded a little crazy. Yes. It's been a little, I feel like it's been two or three weeks since we recorded. Oh, it's been a hot minute with sickness and yeah. It really did. It tangled us. It tangled us. That was fine. But yeah, we're gonna get untangled because it's spring almost. Officially a week away, aren't we? Yeah, something like that. It's the 14th, isn't it? Like the 23rd house. Yeah. So that's close. All I know is we had some fake nice days and then snowstorms, and now it just pisses everyone off. Yeah. But that's okay. So today we well, this was inspired because Sam's a little bit under the weather. Sorry. Still is what I mean. The weather in this time of the year, everyone's just sick. Up and down. So it's Sam's turn to be sick, and me and Ella were like, what do we do? What do we do? Do we record? Then I was like, let's bring Kaylee. And then Sam's better. So now we're like, even better. Let's have like a full podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

I just sound a little Oops.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

I oh my god, every time we have somebody, I reveal it like that. That's fine. I don't even mean to, I just casually say it, and then it's like, oh. That's fine. I think I did that with your mom too. Probably. So if you didn't pick up what I was putting down there. Am I not supposed to say hi? Yeah, you can now. Well, I think we were keeping it secret, then that just got right weird, but it's okay. Welcome, Kaylee. Yay! Well, thanks for having me. And who are you, Kaylee? I am who are you for our viewers? I am Emily's fiance, aka wife. Yeah. Hey girl. Wifey. Wifey. Yes. And the reason that we thought that we would bring Kaylee on to tonight, like Ella, do you want to like say why? No, it was your idea. I think you can. And it's your your woman. You take her away. We just thought that it would be cool to bring in another side of trades because if people aren't aware, hair is trades. Exactly. Whether they say it is or not. Exactly. It is. And see, that's perfect. She just said she thinks it is, and Kaylee is in trades. She started, she'll tell you her story. Yeah, we're not gonna tell you what she does. She has a little bit of a background, and she's gonna get into that with our questions, but but she sees the other side of trades. Before we do that, can we have um a little minute to talk about our week since we haven't done that in a while? Yeah. So my week was good, Sam. Your week was good. Emily, what happened the other day at work?

SPEAKER_00 2:46

What the heck? What happened? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

What did happen when you put your hand in your pocket?

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Um Wednesday night, Emily. Put your hand in your pocket while we were working.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

These two are nuts. Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

No, it was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

She called me. I'm on the way to the bank. She's like, Ella? I'm like, Emily? She just stepped back and I lost me. Oh my god. So what happened? So I had on these pair of pants, which I thought were a nice pair of pants, but they're cheap Timu pants. They're nice. But I was walking towards the room, and as I was walking, I put my hand in my pocket. So I think that leg stretching motion contributed, but my pants ripped right down the side. Literally my whole hip was exposed, my nude undies exposed, my thigh like she texted me. And I saw a picture of it as she texted me. I called my manager, I called Ella, I called Sam to the back room. But Sam was the one that because my our manager at first was like, Can you please drive home and come back? Because Sam would have been alone. We would have had to close. And I'm like, that's fine. But then Sam remembered we have smocks.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Yeah. She literally, I'm just out front doing a haircut. And she's like, Sam, can you come back? And I was like, oh God, what happened? And I was like, oh my god. My hands right on the girl.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

She just called me and I just I had no words. It's just instant tears. I started belly laughing. I was like, what happened? She's like, I put my hand in my pocket.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

I told her she needs to not be so aggressive with putting her hands in her pocket.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Honestly. I think it was that walk emotion, but they were a little tight and they're a little cheap.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

So no, it was good. But poor Emily. I was like, okay, let's see what we have because I'm sure we have something to cover for.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

She remembered the smock that's just like a little yown that zips up. It looks like almost a lab coat, but they're black and like the material that hairstyles. They zip right up to your neck. Oh my god. And it was long enough, it was almost to my knees, so it covered that long thigh slit that I had going on. You're also a little bit shorter than are you shorter than her? Is she shorter than you? I don't know. Actually, I think you're shorter than the two of us. And so like on me, it wouldn't have covered, but you're just so little. It covered.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Yeah. I was like, oh yeah, girl, we got this.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

It did, and then we'll rent the rest of the night.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

It was like two hours left, or good thing because like the roads were kind of crappy. It was icy that night. You could have slept going there. Yeah, I was like, oh. And you know what? If you would have left, I wouldn't have even known I was by myself without Miyoko until eight with us all.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Oh yeah, she stayed till seven. But yeah, that was funny. It was funny. Kaylee, this is what you get to experience. This is our brains. This is what happens in our salon. You see that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

She's an aggressive pocket girl, aggressive mopper. Hole in her apron, cutting her fingers.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

I put my back out mopping. Yeah. Getting barberside in our eye. Holy Kaylee. Kaylee had to come and install our eye water washer machine. I did. It was so funny. We were looking for a stud in the wall. Monica was like banging on things. Kaylee comes in, she's like, got it.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

I'm like, and then I walk back and I'm like, wait, I'm too short for that. And we're not gonna reach. I'm like, oh, we don't put our eyes right to the thing. We take the thing to our eye. Which I didn't think either.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

I would have thought that it'd be an like you can have an eye wash station that's like a water fountain. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. We had them in um wood shop. Yes, yeah. And yeah, and so you can have those ones, but that that one just comes off and you kind of like squirt it in your eye. Take a break. Let's just let's just say, okay, so what has Emily almost cost her job at? Oh my god. Barberside in the eye, cutting herself, throwing her back out, ripping her pants. Anything else that you can think of is just yeah, not your head. Not yet, anyway. I mean, being a fucking hot badass bitch every day. Yeah. Yeah, girl, get in. I mean, I have a scar on my knee. I felt I woodzed her going into work one day because it was icy. I have a big scar on my knee. And don't lie, you guys also have lots of scars on your fingers from cutting. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

I have no like wrinkles on my knuckle anymore because I've cut it so much. And our fingerprints suck from bleach. Bleach burns.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

That's fine. You guys can get away with moving. Exactly. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_00 7:11

I actually had a client in like, I don't know, a month or something ago. I don't even know. Anyways, he used to work at the hospital up in Ontario, and he actually told me that from using um hand sanitizer so much on our hands, it literally takes away your fingerprint. I was like, that actually freaks me out a little bit. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

I don't know. Crazy. Apparently. We can plot. Yeah, just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Lady slippers, too.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Oh what?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Lady slippers. It's not a flower. Yes, it's our provincial flower. Yeah. And it's illegal.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

So if you I plant them on a oh yeah, so you can't propagate them or dig them up or anything. I understand now. We can plant them. Yeah. Can you? I don't know. I don't think I can even get seeds from them. My fingerprints won't not won't let anybody know who it is. Oh, I see where this is going. That's what I was referring to. Now that's from PEI. Which one? Every time we record at Ella's house, there's sports on, and she's like squirrel. Sorry. Noah Dawson's from PI. He is from PEI. Who is it? Noah Dawson. He's on Montreal, and that team is my favorite team.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

Didn't he play with the Islanders? Probably.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

He could have, I'm not sure. I don't know where he he got like came up from. Probably his mother. Well, yeah, he came from his mother, but where he played, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Unhinged, unhinged.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Alright, so back to Kaylee. This episode's gonna revolve around you. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, sounds good. We found ways to tie it into hair and trays. So yeah, I'm not much of a hair person. I don't really do much with my hair now. One thing about Kaylee, I will say, is she could make conversation with a plant. It's very true. I could. So I think she's gonna be supernatural and sound really. I will literally talk to No, I think it's gonna be really good. So the first thing is how did you first get into the trades? Um, I was bartending at Sam's for a while and I got sick of bartending, and all of my clients that were bartending were in the trades, and so I used to ask them questions on like what my next step could be because I knew that they also made some good money in the trades and what I wanted to do. And so I originally wanted to go and do um plumbing, but everyone's like, you don't want to do plumbing, it's a dirty trade, especially if you're going into someone's old house and you have to unclog drains and God only knows what's in those drains. Oh, yeah. So I said, Yeah, good point. And then this other gentleman, his name is Ryan Shren, and he owned his own electrical company. He said, if you go to school, do the electrical um construction at Holland College, I will hire you on as soon as you're finished of that. And so that's what I did. I took that route. It's on the air. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I went to Holland College and I did the year program there, the construction electrical. And then once I was done with that, Sreen and Electric was um his company's name, and he's from like out Bluefield Way, so Hampshire. Oh and that's I got on and did that for about a year. Awesome. Did you go away at any point for something? I I feel like we had this conversation, maybe not. No, I think maybe what you're thinking of is how I said if she was to go do her loss. So, what I'm doing now, because I'm not an electrician, I kind of did a different route now working for Greenfoot. Right. I do ventilation, so I'm a ventilation technician. And if I wanted to get my blocks in that, I have to go to Moncton because I don't have them here. Which I wish they did because I really don't want to go to Moncton. It just kind of like listening. That's not like from here, Moncton would be like an hour, hour and a half, and like it'd be a toss-up if she would stay there during the week or if she would drive back home every day there. Yeah. Yeah, I'd have to ask some questions because if it was an online course, then I'd be all game for that, which I don't think it is. I think you have to go in person like you do at Hall and College when you're writing your blocks. Yeah. Because I do have my first block and electrical, and I did do what you need. You need four, no, yeah, four blocks, and then you write your red seal. So technically five tests. That's for electrical, though. I don't know for ventilation, I'm not sure. I think it might be three blocks, and then you write your test. But I was talking to one of the higher-ups, and he doesn't have any blocks or any of that because he doesn't want to go to Moncton as well. Yeah, he's gonna challenge it. He has enough hours. Okay, he took um HVAC and uh refrigeration at Holland College, like he did the HVAC course, and it's kind of like a base, it's a two-year program, but it's just a basic of getting yourself in whatever route you want to go. Yeah, yeah. If you want to do like the heating side of it or the refrigeration side of it, and he's just gonna challenge his block and then he's gonna write his like red seal. Absolutely, and that's just gonna go and challenge it. What you do and like what you want to do is not something that's so small in this island. It's something so many people do that. I'm surprised it's not here automatically. It really should be because I think we will see it within years coming because so many people are starting to get frustrated. Well, that too, and just because we've we're taking out so many old furnaces and putting in like heat pumps, yeah, and stuff like and stuff like that. And I think it should be here because our island is growing so much. Oh my god, yeah, and we are like it's building constantly, and we are and in those new buildings, it's all being electrical stuff that they're putting in. Yeah, so like heat pumps and all that, and I think it should be here.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

So and all the all the stuff's probably like really old now, and all the codes and all that stuff down too.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

There was actually we were in an old farmhouse not that long ago, and their electrical panel is like it was made in the United States. Wow. This uh, like this company. I'm not gonna say which one. Yeah, fair. But it goes against all like fire codes and stuff, so they had to rip it out because it's no longer like it's a fire hazard.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

So they had to like our electricians had to rip out her whole panel and put a whole new panel back in.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

It's scary. That's crazy though. Yeah. Do you know what I actually lived in an old older apartment building? And um, you could tell it was really old because it had like all my electrical outlets, like in order for me to use them. We couldn't figure out why there was no lighting in the building. You had to turn on the switch to use the like that's in our bedroom.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

It's really annoying. And that's like here, but too. I like to go to the backwards. So yeah, it's not old. Closest to the door. Yeah. If that's shut off, that lamp won't turn off. Yeah, and sometimes it's too much of a pain to go in and switch it. Like, I think that was the old school way that they did it back to the room. And then they would just like daisy chain them all together. Well, some people do like that. If you flip a switch, your lights do come on. Like some people still want that in their house, but they only designate that one plug or something to that switch. Yeah. So that can happen. Yeah. And older houses, no. It's like you can have that light switch there, and then all of these be daisy chained to that light switch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

My was on like it was so weird.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Our bathrooms like that. Yeah. It's annoying.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

That was like at our old apartment. Like, we couldn't figure out. We thought our microwave was broken. But it wasn't. It was because we had to turn the light switch on for the outlet to work. Fine. Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

For um microwaves, they designate a switch completely to the microwave now, too, because of fire hazards and stuff like that. Because a microwave does take so much water to plug in. I knew that word. Speaking of electrical, also, what happened at work was Ella plugged something into my plug at work and it freaking crackled. No, it was funny. I got a new flat iron and I plugged it in, it was fine. When I turned it on, it was like I was like, It's almost like it's arcing. Shut it off, plugged it back in. Nothing. It didn't trip the bait. Turned it on. So I was like, oh, okay, no. No, no. So I tried mine because I was like, if this is my flat iron, like seriously, I just bought it and it was fine.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Yeah, you literally just opened it out of the package. Then Monica made it up.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

So right now, if you look at my our all our stations are a four quad plug, like two on top, two on bottom. Yeah. But mine is like capped off, two on the the top and bottom on the left side. It's just so funny. Even our manager said, like, the girl who did electrical for a little bit, it's her receptacles. He had to go out and buy a new receptacle. That's why it's capped off right now. Probably. Might have set our microwave on fire. Yeah, so goodness. I know. These are creepy. It was old. That's yeah. That makes sense. Now we got a new one. I needed help.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

It did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

I'm surprised it didn't blow the breaker because that's like arc flashing and that's what it's supposed to do. So it's a good on him that he's going to go get you some new receptacles. Yeah, too. Because that's a fire. Oh, yeah, definitely. Fire.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Earplugs.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Earplugs.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

That they like the actual.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

If he uses smart words, we're just hairdresses. I'm like, okay. You guys use words, I don't know, like you guys are chemists. That's basically true. You guys are chemists.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

So was it your flat iron or was it the plug? No, it was the plug. Oh. And yours or hers, you need to. Oh, you plugged it. Okay, gotcha. That happened in another station, I feel like, not within the last couple of years.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Yeah, was it not Emily's?

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Could just be the old plugs and they need to be there. We could use a little revamp. Might just need a little updating on the plugs. All right. Sam, what are you? What made you choose electrical when you first started?

SPEAKER_02 17:02

More so because it's everyone kept telling me that it's a clean trade. Fair. Yeah. And it's not dirty. Which it it can be if you go into new houses and stuff. If you're climbing around in people's attics and stuff. We're going under a mini home, yes. Because I've seen so many dead animals up and under attics. Uh like rats and mice and bats. No, thank you. Yeah, absolutely not. Little standing your abyss. The newer houses. Like when you're doing newer homes. Yeah. It's so nice. Yeah. I mean, it the construction site can be messy from other trades, but I can imagine get under this house. My grandfather built this house. Oh, really? He's like not alive anymore. How old do you think the house is? Sorry. Your R I P to your grandfather's. 19, like old. Oh wow. Like this is my mom's childhood home. Oh, that's cool. That's awesome. I didn't know that. Yeah, that makes sense. Wow. Yes. It looks really good. It just looked like it's old.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

They've done some work. The basement still looks good though. Yeah. It does.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Our furnace looks like a it's just an older furnace.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Is it scary? I love these. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Whenever I was younger, I didn't like furnaces. They scary. It wasn't the home alone movie. Yes, exactly. Yes, that's definitely why. Yeah. Alright, well, what does a typical day look like for you? Um just depends on where I'm going on the island. It could take me an hour to get to because you go kind of tip. Yeah, all over. From Tignish to Surrey, wherever we are going. And our island is like four hours tip to tip, I'd say, right? Isn't it don't they say? I think so. Four hours listening all the time. Is it yeah, I think it's like four extensions. If you're driving from tip to and Kaylee and I live kind of in the middle, so she could go either way. And my job, like I'll drive, I'll take I do take my work truck home. Yeah. So I will drive from my house to the shop and I'll get what I need for the day, and then I'll drive to wherever I need to go, whether it's a new build, because I do um actually I'm kind of all over the place doing um retrofitting, which is going into somebody's house and um with retrofitting, I could be in someone's house for a couple of days. If I'm on a new project, could be maybe a week. Um if I go to the apartments, so if I'm doing a commercial, I could be there for months. So it really all depends on where I'm going. And I do both. I do residential and commercial. Like they'll just stick me if I if they need me in commercial, I'll go there and do apartment buildings or like daycares. They're doing the totty tots in town. Um, I was up helping them put in the medical center in Rustico. Um so like for your typical day then, you're not are you usually like a one job sort of day, or is there some days where you're doing more than one? No, like this week I was in the same house all week. Because you had a big job. Big job, yeah. But I could be I'd say give or take. If I do take on a job, it might take two or three days at the same location if it's residential. Yeah. And if it's not a big, massive new house. Because that could take a couple of weeks if it's a and aren't you the only like female who goes out? Yes. Yeah, that's super cool. There's females in the office that are doing like the office um like work, like who does like puts us on jobs and stuff. Like I have an app on my phone and it tells me every day where I'm going. There's a lady who does that. But other than that, no, I'm the only technician. Lady technician. Okay, that's a good achievement. Yay! They're all men. Um, there might be a lady in the spray foaming section of Greenfoot, but I don't see them, they're in a whole other department. That's fair. Yes. You're doing totally different things. Yeah, so I see the HVAC and ventilation and electricians, and they're all male. That's so cool, though.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Yeah, thanks. You dominate them.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

I yeah, I guess I don't know if I want to be dominated. Yeah, I think that's awesome though. So before I ask my next question, I think it's worth noting. Um, before Kaylee got into trades, like quickly give us like a super quick rundown of your background. You said you're already a bartender. Yeah. But before that, like, what's some of the stuff you did before? Um, I worked in a warehouse. Um I worked for Paderno and I used to do the shipping for pots and pans.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

My dad worked. Oh yeah. The warehouse one. The warehouse one. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Like, you know, with Brackley right there. That's not Paderno and your dad.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

That is where my dad worked. He works there for fifty he worked there for 15 years. Really? Yeah, up in the office.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

I probably ran into your father then.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Um, and then I was sorry. Oh, I cleaned I cleaned hotel rooms. Oh Be J found quite a few things doing that. Uh It was disgusting. I from here on out, I always said that if that job was like the only thing, I'd go homeless. Like I will never go back to doing that. That is such a dirty, disgusting job. I'd rather see dead animals, I think. I rather do anything. Thank you. Like literally. I give them props. Like I was telling that to Emily. I was like, I will never do this job again. Like I felt sorry. We went on vacation on the weekend and I felt sorry for them. And they were short staffed too. They were saying they were working their ass off. And no, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, especially when you see someone doing a job that you used to do and you know what it's like. That's when you're like, you have the extra, like, oh my god. Yeah. Exactly. Because I I taught her that like what we did with our towels, and we like she even stripped the whole bed and stuff, is what I told her before. I talked to I actually I had Brady do it. I was like, Brady, this is what you do in a hotel room, and he stripped the beds for the bottom.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

I never do strip our beds in the hotel, but I throw all of our towels and everything.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

Yeah, tough tough. Yeah. I loved when people did that. So I do that now. We do that. Yeah. And I think we unintentionally strip the bed because I might be a little bit like OCB and I strip it anyway when I get there and make sure there's no bugs. Yeah. That's fair. I have to, because then I'm like, oh my god, what if there's something? Like I I'm not in my own space.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Some people take like black lights and everything.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Oh, I don't do that far, but like when I'm not in my own space, I'm like, I want to make sure I know what I'm sleeping on.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

First thing I do is like kick my feet up in the sheets and kick it out from underneath the top of my top. Yeah, you're like, shh, can't. Some people don't know. I don't like that either. No.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Nope. No. I kicked my end out. You kind of don't seem to mind it. Well, you like the like cocoon. Yeah. Feel like a nice warm hug. So the reason I asked that though, I was more so thinking like, because the question is what surprised you about the job site, but also you used to work on a farm. Yes. And oh my goodness, her dog, that's her dog snoring. Everyone is used to Bailey. Let's just stop bullying her. It is Emily. She's snoring. You were in the military. So when you think of Kaylee going on a job site, she's had a whole lot of Did we know she was in the military? Did I know that you were in the military? I was in the Navy. Go for it.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah, but thank you. I wasn't so whenever I was in high school, I did gas. I was gas pumping. Yes. What are there? There's an actual word for those. A gas pumper? A gas work or I don't know. It's full service of calls. Yeah. Yeah. Because you used to pull up and they'd you'd have to run out and get and pump people's gas.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yeah. It was called full service back when we had it. Yeah. They don't do it anywhere. There's some. There's one out by our house. I think they still do it on Setro. Yeah. Not many.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

There's some. Some of the older gas stations still do it too. Like that one that's out in uh like Cavendish, it still does it too. They have a full service right there. But yeah, I used to do that. Yeah. And then I also worked at just a a family farm down the road. Like I considered them family because well my aunt my uncles and worked there. So most local. Yeah. And my grandparents owned a farm and like they always helped them out and vice versa. But they just became bigger, and my family farm shut down just because the way you know economy goes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So how long were you in the navy? Oh. Sorry. No, it's fine. I just didn't know that. How long were you in the navy? Like two and a half years. So when I graduated, they like came to the school and did like I was actually gonna go and do RCMP or policing. Oh, I feel like you would be good at that. Yeah, I'd be like, my cousins. I'd be so anxious, though. Oh no. You want to go be a firefighter. That's no better. Well, you wanted to be a paramedic. That's true. I was looking to go into paramedicine, but I actually wanted to do like 911 operation, like operator, and then I was like, that actually can be super heavy. It can be uh very heavy. You're like the first on call, I guess it would be literally the first on scene, but it's them actually calling you with like whatever. You could be life or death, like if you need to walk someone through CPR until someone gets there, like that is their life in your hands. It is, you're right. Yeah. I know you might not be seeing it, but you're on the phone with them. And then they just hang up and you don't know what happens. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

I mean, like, because you're so soft-hearted, yeah. You'd be crying, you'd be balling on the phone with the booth.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

As we're going to a movie after this, and I already told Sam that I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah, that's alright. I already know that. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Please shut up. Holy fuck, these girls.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Oh she didn't work all day. Her brain's like we're trying to interview her.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

It's okay. I literally could talk all day though, too. I'm I could be bad. I just wanted to know what will surprise you about going on to a job site. Nothing really. Like, I don't think anything just I don't know. Not nothing really came out and surprised me with because I'd been in the military and been on a firm and dominance pretty much so too. So I just yeah, the only thing I was scared is if if I screwed something up. Yeah. But then all my bosses always said, no, do screw up because then if you don't, that's how you work.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, that's what I tell these these girls. Like girls. Me, Tush tells me. Well, no, like anyone. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

You can only make if you don't make mistakes, you don't know what if you're doing it right or whatever. But you know what? Sometimes it's not true because I keep cutting myself.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Well, that's that's okay. I know too. I was just making a joke.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

I have stitches in my hand because I cut myself and I sh I shouldn't have. And I knew not to do what I was doing, and I still did it. Yeah, Kaylee cuts her hands quite a bit. I do like, and I'm every time I'm mean, but every time she does it, anybody else who's dating a man or woman in trades, you can attest. They're stubborn, they're stubborn as hell. And every time she cuts herself, I'm like, Were you wearing your fucking gloves? Nope. Well, she's like that too. You can say it to her too. When she cuts herself, well, did you cut past your second knuckle? She'll say, Yes, I did. I did. I did, dear. They fight and they're like, dear. We are an old married couple. There's an iron. Does it surprise you? Like, how do I make this in an ice bag? Like sometimes how like not common sense like people can have in their homes. Like, not oh yes. Does that surprise because they're not educated? Exactly. Yeah. Like I wouldn't have. And it's not their fault, like it's not their fault. It's no one's fault. No one's educating them, and they probably don't really care or want to. But I've been in some really sketchy houses. Yeah. And I'm just like, the hell is even as an electrician too. You're like what's going on. Going in and doing what I'm doing, I will see literally like junction boxes everywhere, and I'd be like, this is a fucking fire hat fire hassle. It's my land swear. Oh yeah, as she told you, wrong fucking case. Kaylee and I actually went in one, like Kaylee taught I went into electrical. We talked about that before, but Kaylee and I went into a house that was really, really sketchy here in PEI. Like she said, like wires hanging down above the stove caked and grease.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

What do you do in that situation? Like with when there is something that's like you know, such a hazard. Do you have to like call that in or like make a complaint? Or what like what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 29:20

You just tell kind of like your so I always told my boss about it. Yeah, I always took pictures of it because then they could always say, Oh no, like you did that.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Right. Covers your own. Cover your ass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Yes. And that's all I can really do. But yeah, if it goes beyond code and I'm like, this needs to be fixed, it will it will get fixed. That's good. It has to be. But there is there's like a certain way, and I don't really know how to explain it. It's just like if it's been done in a certain era, then it unfortunately it's just that's the way it is. Yeah, unless the the house is getting a whole revamp, then it will come and do what is like code to this year. Yeah, yeah. But they probably change so often too. Oh my goodness, every the code book every three years is when it gets updated. Oh wow, and so new codes come in, new codes. So you just get used to something, and then you got something else. That's all like wildly different, but like they'll update things here and there, yeah. It's a lot to do with like how technology's evolving. That's yeah, and so they need to put that into the code book. Like, yeah, you could have wireless um light switches, wireless plugs. Yeah, and they need to throw that stuff in. Like whenever internet became such a big thing, yeah, uh, there's like a whole code on that. And yeah. And correct me if I'm wrong, but this kind of ties into Sam's question because when I was doing it under you, you guys taught me that if you're like, say we went in and we were upgrading some lights in somebody's basement, if Leon did that light bulb and underneath there some of the wiring was wrong, we'd have to fix that to some extent right there. That makes sense. We're not gonna go rip apart the whole basement. No. To like as she said, you gotta like kind of judge it. Because then you're going into like demolition mode. Anybody who owns a home or is around them, I think you learn right away you're you take off a plug cover or a light. You want you're uncovering a million things. Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, you really are you look for one thing and three or four is gonna pop up. Like and especially were you her like apprentice? Well, yeah, we both were apprentices because you when you have those four blocks like she talked about, you're considered an apprentice. Well, you get journeyman along the way, like a step up, but yeah, but Kaylee was still more experienced. She had at least a year and a half on me. Yeah, I think I did. How long ago did you do? I started it in I think it was August 2024. No, 2023, and then I stopped like February 2024. So I only did it like like six to eight months. Sorry, Emily's giving us a show. Yeah, sorry. Um, it was only like six to eight months that I did it. So you guys were already. But we were on the same team. There was days that we'd be in the same truck. One of us drawing the sauce working together. Oh, I don't think I'd want to. I thought she was gonna kill you when you got here. I'm gonna get real for a minute here. Were you guys engaged by then? Uh yeah. Yes. We were engaged after like a year, and at this point we were together like three. Um, I had to come to Jesus with me and Kaylee and said, like, for the safety of our relationship and our family. Holy shit. Sorry. That's the status. Like, for that would be our relationship. If we continue to work together, it's like a fucking water bottle crashing down standing. I think. Yeah. And it's only there. But also because we're both learning. Yeah, and you can learn things a little different and learning styles and talking, clashing, and also like I think you two would find it the same too. When you're in stressful situations, sometimes we do. We're like, you can kind of yeah, you can because you're so comfortable with each other, you can almost kind of snap. Whereas, and you don't mean to.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

Well, because makeup afterwards. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

We just agreed that if if I had continued on with that prep profession and her, we couldn't work together again until we were both fully like a decade or more down the line. Yeah. Same as in here. Like we're fully okay, we're comfortable, we know everything we can know. Now we could work together because you can actually just bounce each other off. Yeah, you're not like fighting over who said this, the code book, like all confused, you don't even really know. We were fine, we weren't like awkward or anything. We just like found it way too stressful. Like I get that side of it though. Different situations. Because she'd have someone telling her something because someone above her at a different job, I'd have somebody telling me different. That's frustrating. It's like we're supposed to listen to the ones above us, but then it's right. Well, that's why if I need help with a haircut, it's nothing to do with anyone else. But if I go ask Sam and then I still need another, like I still need help, I'm not gonna then go ask Emily because she might tell me something different. Yeah, it's more consistent to listen to the one, and then if we came together and we know we're getting info from two people who were Red Seal, yeah, and it's okay that they did different. It's not that they were wrong. No, we just didn't have enough knowledge to know that those two ways were both right. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

Just how it went about it might be a little different, depending on how you got there in the end, right? Exactly, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So what do people get completely wrong about these trade works? Trades work, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Like what do people like something they think like, oh, this is what trades is, but it's actually not. Like what's something that's like misinformed about trades? Uh dirty. Yeah. Yeah. Drugs. Yeah. In what way that there is or isn't? That there is, or people are doing drugs. There's just all a bunch of drug heads. Yeah, especially depends on what trades like construction. Yes. Or people doing like sheetrock, like putting up um drywall. Drywall, yeah, big potheads. They'll call them all potheads, which they probably actually one of our really good friends works at Acadia Drywall.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Yeah. It's a stereotype. It's just a stereotype. Everyone's like, oh, they're a bunch of potheads. And it's funny because like the guy that I know literally is like far, way far from that. Like with never. Oh, would never? Yeah. Yeah. So that's funny. I've never heard before.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

I have seen yes, but I've also seen no. Yeah. So you probably do literally anyway. We could say the same for hairstylists. We've all seen and heard of hairstylists under the influence or any industry, like it can happen. But it's just it's funny because roofers and drywallers get the worst. You get the worst end of that, especially with drugs. Yeah. Um, depending on what trade you're in, and if you make a lot of money, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Alcohol, gambling. Yeah, I guess I'd come with anything really, but that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Then you get into like the the worst drugs like cocaine and like the more expensive stuff, especially if you make more or at West, yeah. Like a lot of yeah, yeah, just stereotypes of like hairstylists, you just play with hair, like you because you didn't want to go to school, like things like that. Yeah. But we did go to school. Okay, Kaylee. Because you would hear from Emily and you hear from us. Is jobs like gossip as intense as salon gossip? It's different gossip because it's men gossiping. That's true. Where we get some men. I guess you guys get men too, because you guys are you a walk-in one. Like, say if you're strictly a salon, it would just be women gossiping. Yeah, yeah. I but I'm well, yeah, yes, I know. I mean though like between like your coworkers because like when we do it, we just like have a bitch fest, but like the men would be very different. Do you guys spill the tea? I'm sure they do. They do. I see, like, whenever I'm on a job site, I really just put headphones on and like they just tell me what to do when I go and do what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, I don't really want to chit-chat or but if you think about our if you think about our experience when we work. But men drama, yeah. It's probably different. Oh, it is so worse. Wow. So worse. I've said when people ask me, men are like who are more picky. I'm like men.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

Men are yeah, men are definitely more picky for sure.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

And they're gossip on telling them like they come with drama too. The baggage that some of them come with. That's fair. It's crazy. They might if anybody, if anybody's ever gonna be listening to me, they might shoot me, but whatever. But it's not that they're like, it's just men and women gossip differently. Like, you know, like the way the thing that men may find the juicy part of drama, we'd be like, that's not a big deal. And vice versa. Yeah the part because you always see the memes of men and women like the husbands where they don't ask the right questions. Yeah. And to be honest, sometimes that's Kaylee. I'll be like, Kaylee, well, did they do this? Did they do that? Did they I'm not sure. I'm asking trying to get the tea by their coworkers. Yeah, she is, and I'm like, I don't really like well. I'm gonna jump over, Emily. I'm gonna jump over your question just because it's kind of fitting in right now to what we're doing. Yeah. Who complains more about work, hairstylist or tradespeople? Even though we are considered like you guys are in the trades, yeah. So you're a trade-oriented trade. Construction trade or hair trade. Yeah, so say the oh, who complains more? I would say construction. Yeah, fair. Yeah, but they also have a lot to complain about. I feel like my body would be sore. Yeah, I was gonna say more so the soreness because of the physicality, especially if you're just you pr practically live, like I live on a ladder. Yeah, yeah, very fair. I hate ladders all day. I feel like up and down. She complains about her shoulders. She thinks her shoulders are from sleeping, but then when I think about it, I it's probably from your work because you're not above my head too. A lot. So I'm on a ladder. That's true. That's like literally um it's my house. It's literally my home. Like I spend so much time on a ladder. The last time I was on a ladder, I fell down it. My hands were holding, and I sliced my finger open. Like I still have a bit back up on one cent. Oh, that's that's fair. Yeah. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_00 39:28

I actually got asked recently if I was left-handed because I had a I had a body massage done, and I was like so dumbfounded by it, but kind of makes sense because I was like, Oh, that's my hand. I hold the hair up in all day long, and it makes sense. But I was like, no, I'm actually right-handed.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Yeah. So pretty wild. Yeah, that is. And I would say you guys stand all day too, so that it can go hand in hand about complaining. And probably we have our hands up too. Yeah, but not as high, like not over our head. No. They'd have a lot of construction have more heavy lifting too than us. Yeah. Um, well, I'd say the same weight as a drill would be like blow dryers are really heavy. Yeah, you can get blow dryers up really light. And then our new clippers, a couple of us might be clippers in the nice road. Yeah, they're really light. It's almost scary. Like this one guy, I want to get the same drill as he has because it's so light. Yeah. Those they're like little tiny batteries, and it like slips in kind of like a magazine does for a gun, like a small little gun. Uh yeah. And it like kind, is it? It's a Milwaukee. Oh, Milwaukee. But it's like I do know that brand name. It's so small. It's his impact, and it just like kind of like goes in like the Cody that we used to work with. I'm pretty sure he had them. He had them. They're almost rounded. Yes, they are. Yeah, it was and it's so light. Yeah, yeah. My um, I don't really know. He took over my old like general manager. Like they we kind of had a swap out with some people. So I guess he's like our our manager. He owns them, and I think they're pretty cool. They're su it's super light, and I want them because here I am with the big battery in my Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Um what's what similarities exist between salons and construction sites? Or like job sites that you go to.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

Everywhere, everywhere. Um, I would say probably with the day-to-day like physical stuff would be pretty similar. And like like standing a lot and holding stuff. Different, but like us being walk-in, we don't always know what we're doing. Oh, yeah, that's yeah. Different every day. Some days I don't know what I'm doing either. Like if I finished my job on Friday, I don't have anything on my schedule till I know Monday morning, like Monday morning when I get there. Yeah, and probably like you said, like sometimes it changes too. Yeah, that's pretty similar, actually, really. Yeah. Yeah. Same with like you guys have curling rods, irons, yeah, whatever. Whatever you call curling things, curling things and straighteners and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

We have our tools, you have your tools.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Exactly, yes. Actually, I was just playing a video game and I saw this lady because it was like I was my little character. I was taking her to the salon, and this lady had like a pouch on the side. Like, do you know how like I'd have a tool pouch? Yeah. This lady had a tool pouch, but it was for like her clippers and a comb and stuff. So I was like, Oh, Jenny's so cool for a first Jenny's assumption. Yes, she does. Like a little tool pouch. I just throw mine in my pocket, they're never ending. Yeah, me too. And like, why don't you ask these next two? Because they can kind of intertwine with each other. Um, what do you think would shock a hairstylist if they worked on a job site for a day? And then like vice versa. What would vice versa? What do you think? What would shock you if you worked in a site? Yeah. Think about you sitting in the or hearing what I have to say. What would shock your coworkers? Well, actually, that's a good question for you because you are you did this a lot. That's the construction system. Okay, so Emily, what would shock a hairstylist about working on a job site? Yeah. Um, actually, how much is involved in it and how much knowledge you have to have, even right down to the basic how a house is built, bare bones. And I feel like there's a lot of more people doing different things all at once in the same space. Exactly, and to know what each of those trades are doing, because there's so many moving parts and units. So I think that would surprise a hairstylist because in a salon we kind of are all doing the same type of thing. Exactly. We look at it and we know who's doing what. And like if I'm like, Emily, do you see a line in this phase? Yeah, no, I don't. Okay, you'd be like, Can you go nail this on a wall? No, I can't. Where's the stud? Yeah, like I have a Question like so do you guys you guys wouldn't have different so if a person comes in and sits down in your chair, like I'm just thinking of it when I go, I guess you just the person like you wouldn't just do men's cut and you wouldn't do women's cut, you just do and choose they don't in our salon. There's a couple might be like I don't want to do so much color. I'm just trying to think of like how like an electrician would come, a plumber would come, an HVAC would come. In like celebrity world and influencer world, yes, they have them. You'll see it all the time. Someone comes in salon. There's more people who are more blondish and more fashion color, yeah. And then they would take that route, and that's what they would kind of like have. Yeah, some of us don't know. Their trade would be stunned, yeah. So like kind of similar annoying. I still am not super comfortable with like stacked bobs. So if someone sits in my chair, I might be like, I'm actually gonna move you because someone else will do better. Yeah, because yeah, to like a minor extent, but not comparable at all to I feel like at our work, it's just there's some people who prefer to cut rather than cut. But they wouldn't at the like if it came push, whatever that's shot, pushes the show. Yeah, yeah. Yep. We come out of school with all similar base knowledge to do everything. There is, and then there isn't because I was gonna say too, like, as electrician, sometimes I have to build things, which I didn't know that going into it. I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna be running wires and stuff like that. No, like I've literally had to build or extend walls out, and I'm like, I know nothing about carpentry. I've had to learn how to take apart my clippers and put them back together. So I guess so. That's a surprise there because yeah, you guys would have to clean your equipment and stuff too. Yes. So there is a similarity. So would you say that would surprise a tradesperson coming into a salon of how much actual like upkeep we need to do for our things? And probably more like the cleansy clean. Yeah, so clean. Yeah, yeah. On that where like having to know for sanitation wise, yeah, like with diseases, even yeah, yeah, you like all the scalp disorders. It's crazy. I know she was showing me and I was like what you saw in like a hotel room, and then compared to like what you see like under a house, you can see a lot on a scalp. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that if you washed your hair and got out of the shower and put it up, that you could get uh mold. That's like consecutively for a long time. I used to do that all the time though. I used to do that so much and now I'm like scared to and your hair can break easier because it's more fragile.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Which workplace environment feels more dramatic? Day to day.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

Ooh. I would say probably a salon because you don't know who you're getting.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

That's right. Every day.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

You guys are walking, so a walk-in salon, I guess. I don't know what other salons are. I'm just trying to think of the other ones that you used to work in. I don't really have much drama in but I was in another salon that wasn't uh there was a little bit of a crankfest at the started this week. Was there? Yeah. No, not with anything there, just what I mean is like we never know where we're gonna get with clients. Oh on the client side. I was trying to think I'm like not coworker, oh yeah. Yeah, we might get a picky like person in their house, and but it's their house. Like it's at the end of the day, I understand. Like it's your houses is what you want. You're paying for what you want. Like, and it's not like you know, what is the most a haircut can cost? Well, if they got like full shampoo, full blowout head, the longest hair could be like maybe 80 bucks. That would be like if they had long ass thick hair style blowout. Well, like say if you have like a shampoo cotton blow dry, it's what like 50. 50 bucks, I think. Yeah, yeah, or 50. This is like$30,000. Yeah, exactly. So like they have a right to pay. Sometimes I get picky, I get picky clans, but like but we're talking on a job site that's not unheard of for them to put the whole damn thing together, the whole kitchen, and have to take it apart and re put in something because they change their mind on a collar. Or the one I've heard Kaylee complain. I see I I was doing it for a short time. So, but I did see it, and I hear Kayleigh talk about it all the time where one trade comes in and puts something up before another trade and it screws up the blueprint. Yeah, notoriously it's plumbers or electricians messing with the one or the other. Yeah, I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know why. They always pick on each other too. They do, it's just a long-standing like plumbers and electricians pick on each other. I do think we're more dramatic like day-to-day, but I feel like it really is you have more to that can go wrong. I think that's I guess that's true. I can tensions are high, yeah. You see it in the reactions of tradesmen. I'm sorry, it's more acceptable on a job site to holy baby, lose your shit, yeah, lose your shit with each other. Do you know how many times I've heard and seen somebody get reamed up one side, down the other, and then you turn around and you gotta just go back to the city. You gotta go back to work and do your job, like nothing happens. The situation Ella was just talking about, there was an unruly client who was being not nasty to a stylist. That's rare. Yeah. Whereas the job sleep, that's daily. We are pretty good clients, and like well, that's good. When they get cranky, it's crazy because a lot of the time it's because we're asking questions and they don't like that we're asking questions. Yeah, they probably feel like anxious. Yeah, oh, can I not trust you? Why are you asking? Yeah, I was thinking of it more of like bartending, I guess, too, because I used to get some sketchy people in bartending, but that's a whole other ball game because it's then you involved alcohol, they couldn't have drugs, yeah, exactly. They're also we had VLT machines, so they were gambling. So if they lost two, they'd get aggressive. So I was just thinking of kind of like those clients then coming into your guys' shop, but you're not offering that type of service to them. So that was my that was my bad for that.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

I had a lady at 90 in the store, like, I'm two beers in. I was like, I'm like, um, I heard her at the same time she's like, holy fucking fuck this. I chop my motherfucking hair. I chop her like the ones that I'm like, oops, the one that I said I think I cut her.

unknown 50:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

It's awesome. I'm like, oh time doesn't happen. If I ever like needed help, or like if I screwed up and Sam fixed it, she's not gonna bitch me out. No, no. Oh, it's happened. I've seen it. Oh, I've seen it. And like literally sometimes it can be like the higher people to get this like, oh, my dick's bigger than yours. Yeah, I'm gonna fucking ream you out because I think I know more. I and it can't sometimes it's not even the case.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Yeah, wow, but it's just you know, have you ever seen like actual like fist fights on a job site because people have gotten into it over like disagreements of like anything?

SPEAKER_02 51:12

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

No, I've seen it be like pretty close to almost bringing up.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

I've seen two people go nose to nose. Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

I feel like that could be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Because they're two hot-headed individuals, right? And one had one had say thinks that he knew more than the other, even though one was in the trade longer than the other. It just was like they were just nose to nose and yelling at each other. But that's an opinion and like because I know it's hard, like whether it was men or women, but especially men. Like, is there someone even just a neutral party? Like, who breaks that up, or do you just do they just find an argument out and then finish? Like, usually do yeah. I in that situation I didn't want to intervene. No, I didn't because I was like, you know what, these two have been at each other for the last few months. I think they just need to do this and get it over with because they were just talking smack about each other behind each other's backs, so it's just like I think they just needed that.

SPEAKER_00 52:23

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

That's blowing off some steam. Exactly, yes. And I mean it is str yes, it is stressful, like you were saying. It can be very stressful. Well, quite literally, especially like in a house, like this is what someone's gonna live in. You know, especially collapsing under the and like new builds too, because we worked in like like$2.3 million homes.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

Yes,$4.7 million homes. You're working on new medical buildings, yeah. Like people are paying big money, so like that's a yeah, it can be very stressful.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

I know that knowing what I know now, I don't think I'd run my own company because it's so stressful. Absolutely. Because, like, like you said,$2.3 million home where I have my guy who told me he wanted a buzz cut, didn't want a bus cut. Okay, you're at$20 and a little bit of hair for a few months. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So there is a difference that way. Depending on the day to day, I guess. I feel like your your job is more stressful, more dramatic. Yeah, and we just might sometimes have the more dramatic clients like literally being okay, you're a drama queen. Yeah, unless like you guys were, I guess the what I'm thinking is if they were paying like thousands of dollars for that. Yeah, like a colour. And that would be like yeah, extensions, big collars. Collars, I feel like are the most stressful we do. Like I had Monica helping me one time, and she knew, like I said, she's been in a long time. She knew what she was doing, and she grabbed something and did it super quick, and it was one of those like fast acting things, and she kind of just like she wasn't rude about it, but she kind of just was like, Okay, move, and got me out of the way because she had to get it on and had to get it off.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

Yeah, yeah. Like it's a quick situation.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Like she wasn't like, get out of my mouth. Because it can come, I have to step in, I'm doing this, it's on, it's off.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

Yeah, yep, yeah. We've all done that. I feel like we've, you know, I'd be like, Oh, and I'll help you.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

Yeah, yeah, like our tone may come, but it's just in the moment. Like exactly living quick. When we were doing that like untangle, like the detangling thing. Oh, yeah. And I apologize afterwards, like Amanda, she was she's like, don't like because we kept saying, I feel so bad for this little girl. Like, we're like, it's almost done, sweetie. And Amanda's like, don't lie to her. I'm like, I'm not lying to her, we're trying to finish it. It was just he to the moment, and Amanda just kind of walked away. Yeah. And right after, I was like, I am so sorry. She's like, No, not at all. She's like, I shouldn't have stepped in. Like, I know that's stressful. Like, that's kind of the extent of what that was like today.

SPEAKER_00 54:45

We actually kind of had another type situation. And this girl came in with really, really long hair. I don't I was sh I left after her. Okay, yeah, I was gonna say, you were there for that, weren't you? Mm-hmm. Or did you were were you there when she was still yeah, okay. But that was crazy. I'm like, oh well, my husband told me that you could get it out. No, that's not what I said. So then I had to go and I felt bad, but I literally had to go up to her and be like, I'm sorry, but like this is gonna cost you a lot more money than you're gonna want to have to pay. And it was matted right to her scalp. And she had hair like how long to her knees, really that long. Yeah, I felt bad, but like that's the thing. I was like, that's where you should have came in to kind of show us, and then I could have gave you probably a bit better outlook.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

I heard before I left, I heard on the phone like like oh, it depends how long it takes if we can get it all out. No one ever said we can, it was if we can do this, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

And that's a thing where like you're asking for somebody else, and like so um my manager came out and she's like, I need you to talk to her because I kind of was the one that dealed with the situation at first, but then I felt back because I was like, Well, actually, your husband told me it was just like one little spot, so I didn't realize how big it was, but I was like, You're gonna pay a lot of money and you're not gonna want to have to pay that. And it could take hours and hours and days, maybe a couple days, a few sessions, yeah. So I literally was just like, I think you should be done for now, and then go home and get your husband to try to help you get it out if you can. Yeah, and like sometimes there's that situation, you feel bad, but like it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

Like I said with a coworker, like when it's stressed moments like that, and I felt like I snapped, and when I said sorry, she was like, No, like you're good, I'm sorry too. Like, it's just those heat of the moments when someone's like especially if we're doing a color correction, something needs to do this, like hey, don't move, I need to take over, or yeah, this. It's just it can be quick, and then either you apologize or you don't, but they're just things that you don't realize. It could just be the tone of your voice in that moment, and then it's sorry, and then you're done. Like, it's not anything we take to heart, but I feel like your job can be a lot more.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

Yeah, but there was something I actually recently I think I messaged Emily or maybe even both yet I was like, oh my god, thank you for helping me today or something. But like you forget in the moment, but then you're like, oh my god, I like thank you. Like it was a day.

SPEAKER_02 57:06

Like, there's been a few times because like we never want to seem like we're outdoing the other person, but there's been a few times, like I've said to Emily, or Emily will say to me, because our corn are so bad with light, like if we're doing a buzz test. Yes, it really is actually. And like I forget to thank you, and then after I'm like, oh, thank you for this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Well, that's where like I remember when Emily, you just started back to cutting hair and you were a little nervous on doing men. Yeah, and I was like, turn them in your chair. Yeah, because the shadow. Well, and the lighting, like, I'm not in that back corner, I'm up a couple stations up from them. And I had to help them, and I was like, How do you girls see back here? I can't see anything.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

You guys need some new lights. No, literally something. One of our coworkers, she was off. It's dark back there. She was off, and I'm like, I'm gonna set up my like spot at her station because I just want to see what the difference was crazy. It's like she's closed for the day and night. It's day and night. It literally is, yeah, really. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, we thought for the first time ever, because you are such a special guest here. So important. And yes, we're having so much fun yapping with you and learning so much. I think our viewers will like this side of trades and like a strong woman in trades. Yes. So we thought that we would do a two-part series. Yeah. So we're gonna have Kaylee back again. This episode will air March 15th. And then for our next episode, hopefully next week, we will have Kaylee again for our part two. So please stay tuned. We have tons more questions. This just scratched the circle. Honestly, I'm serious. We only are halfway through. We have lots more. Yeah. Kaylee, we hope that you had so much fun. I did, yes. Thank you so much. Like I said, like I've known you now for Emily and stuff, but some of these things, like never knew you were in the Navy, like things like this. It's like usually we have a bitch fest, but I'm actually learning things this time.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

Yeah, and it's super cool. Yeah, but there's a lot of similarities, but there's also a lot of differences.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

And like some of the similarities I never would have thought of.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

Like, oh yeah, you do hold a drill all day. That could be like my blow dryer. Like, yeah, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

It's like you you have your tools, we have our tools. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for coming on, Kaylee. Yeah, so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 59:18

I'm so excited for the second part because I then we'll get into we'll also get into our fun segments because we are holding out on everyone. You have to come back for part two if you want the fun. If you want the funness, it can find this. Well, this was fun, but you know what we mean. When we really put her on the spot, you'll have to come back. Yeah, get me sweating. Yeah. I'm sweating right now. I'm sorry. If you guys saw me, I'm sweating like a pig. I told you, if we shut this door, it's gonna get hot. But we can't complain, it's better than the cold. True.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

But thank you all for hanging out with us and Untangle It All. If you liked today's episode, share it with your stylist bestie.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

And come back next week for more stories, chaos, and salon life. See you next time. Bye.