Cocoon After Dark
There’s a certain kind of story we only tell in the dark.
The kind that lingers. The kind we’ve carried in silence. The kind that needs soft lighting, no interruptions, and someone who won’t flinch.
Welcome to Cocoon After Dark—I’mQuincy Tessaverne, and this is a space for truth-telling that’s tender, textured, and unapologetically queer.
Each week, we sit with voices—mostly Black, brown, LGBTQ+—who’ve lived through things that don’t always fit into polite conversation.
We talk identity, pleasure, boundaries, grief, reinvention, and the moments that changed everything.
This isn’t small talk. It’s soul talk.
So take what you need. Leave what you don’t. And listen with your whole body.
Cocoon After Dark
Queer, Black, Social Media Influencer, and Tech Sargent in the Army: Carlneesha
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Carlneesha Robinson: Building Community & Breaking Boundaries
In this episode, Quincy, sits down with Carlneeha Robinson, an Air Force tech sergeant and proud queer black content creator. Carlneesha shares her journey of balancing a high-pressure military career with a vibrant online presence, emphasizing humor, honesty, and authenticity. She opens up about her personal milestones, the joy of community-building, and the search for intentional love. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on visibility, resistance, and the courage to choose yourself, all wrapped up with candid anecdotes and future aspirations!
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:42 Finding Love and Intentional Relationships
02:08 Building an Online Community
05:54 Navigating Identity and Public Perception
09:20 Military Service and Personal Journey
12:33 Discovering Sexuality and Personal Experiences
18:14 Balancing Online Presence and Military Life
21:16 Exploring Power Dynamics in Relationships
21:54 Height Preferences and Dating
22:33 Navigating Queerness in the Military
23:46 Military Dating Rules and DEI Changes
26:48 Life as an Optometry Assistant in the Military
29:32 Balancing Military Life and Social Media
38:19 Future Aspirations and Personal Growth
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Hello everyone. Today I'm sitting with Carl Nisha Robinson, air Force tech sergeant, creator, and proud queer black woman who has built a community by simply being herself out loud. She served in high pressure military roles while also growing a vibrant online presence where humor, honesty, and identity lives side by side. I wanted to talk to her about what it means to feel seen, to wrestle with hesitation and fear, and to navigate two worlds that don't always understand each other. This conversation is about service visibility.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)resistance, and the
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)to choose yourself. So your warmup question is, I know you're on the hunt for a girlfriend.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)What
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)What are you looking for? And what kind of girls are you attracted to?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)tell? Oh my goodness. Well, first, thank you so much for having me on. That was the sweetest to welcome. Oh my gosh, that was so beautiful.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I am glad you like it.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)oh, that was beautiful. Man, I feel like this question has come up with me and my friends so much, and I feel like this year I'm really like focused on intention and intentional love. So I would love to just find a woman who is herself knows how to communicate, knows how to love, knows how to be patient. Those are things that are really important to me. So I hope they're really important to her. And, you know, if she just happens to play basketball or, you know, she just happens to be extra funny, that works too. So, you know, I would love that.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Sorry. You're right. I was taking a drink of my coffee,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)coffee.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)out. Uh, but today my girlfriend and I.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)and I, we,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I really wanna watch football, but we're also gonna go see the UCLA Bruins women's basketball
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Nice.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I will definitely be posting photos from that.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes. Oh, that's so exciting. That's so exciting.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Well, I am hoping that you get everything you want this year and lots of love. And let's go ahead and get started. Are you
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Are you ready? I am
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay, here we go. Carl Nisha, before we talk about anything else, how are you walking in today? Honestly.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Honestly, today, I feel like the last couple days, honestly, maybe since January 1st I realize that my platform is becoming bigger than me. My goal for. New Year's was to hit 20 K on Instagram, and I was so close. I think I was like a 19.8 or something like that, and then it happened on January 3rd, and I said, wow, like it didn't take as long as I thought it was going to. People really are engaging in the comments with me. It doesn't feel like there's people who show up and they're talking to other people in the comments because they're in there all the time and I'm like, wow, it's not just me. They're coming for, they're coming for this community. They're coming for this. Love this support being seen in the world. And that really means a lot to me. So I think coming into where I'm at now is just to keep growing this beautiful place, this beautiful community, and really, I don't know what the sky looks like. So I'm open and I'm just ready to take the world by storm.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That is so perfect. What made you decide to show up? So. Amazingly and like out the gate. When did you first start and when did you decide that you were going to have sort of this side by side? Because some of your videos, you're in uniform, some of them you're not. Some of them you're hanging out the shower, like there's just so many different Carl niches on there.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)For sure. So my first video started on TikTok. I posted my first like TikTok video in May of 25. Right. And so it was just like a, oh, I'm just here to just yap to my friends. Who the heck am I? And then I think it was one video where I was talking about my future wife, what did I want to give to her? And it just randomly blew up. And I said, oh. Okay, interesting. And then there was another video and I was like, oh, you know, I would love to have a stay at home wife while I go to work and it's unconventional for a fem feminine presenting woman. And then that one blew up and I said, okay. And then it was, people were like wanting to hear me talk and I said me like, that's never, it's never even been, it wasn't a thought that I had when I started making videos that I was gonna be like a content creator or I was gonna make these videos to make a following. It just happened. And then I think once I hit about 10 K on TikTok, I said, you know, I do have stuff to say. I do feel like I can speak for people who don't maybe feel as comfortable to speak for themselves. I love to talk. So I think as it's progressed and now that I'm getting to where I am, to even being offered to come on a, you know, an amazing podcast of course it's just mind boggling still. But it's, it was never something that I intended to do, but now that it's here I just pray that I can do the best in building a community and building this platform to be seen for other people.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I love that
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that. Because
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)the same way I feel about my podcast, right?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right?
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)You know, you have something to say and you start it out. And when people just engage with it and the followers and the downloads and things like that, you're just sort of overwhelmed because my goal and will continue to be, my goal is to get everyone's else voice out there. Not mine. It's everyone else's. What is your
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I platform. Right. I had went to your, your website and I seen like the sleep stuff and I said, wow. Like not only does she do podcasting, but she also is in this room. It was like something I had never even thought of like kids and sleeping and I said, Ugh, women are just, uh, queer women are just so amazing. But yes, I completely agree. Cute.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Cute. I love that. So what's the difference between who you are online and when the phone is down?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)phone is down? That one I think I'm still struggling with. I try to show up as authentic as I can online. Very unfiltered, really. I really do try to say what is on my mind. I think sometimes I do have to, I don't wanna say filter, but maybe be mindful of what I say because like you said, like this, there's some videos where I do have a uniform and there's certain things. That probably aren't the most appropriate thing to say in uniform. So I try to keep those two separate. But then also as someone who struggles with anxiety and OCD, sometimes it does become a lot. So like I do like to go live on TikTok, but then there'll be some days where I'll go live and I just feel so mentally drained and I'm like, oh, this person that you may see online. It's now struggling behind the scenes. I may have had a panic attack or something going on afterwards because I'm trying to show up, but sometimes it can be a lot. So I think I'm still trying to navigate that space, but I always do try to show up intentional, authentic when I can.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right. So when it hit 20,000, did you feel more confident or more responsibility?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That's a good question. I think more confident, having the support system that I had, my friends have been really like just 10 toes down behind me about you know, just being there and, 'cause I do, I think I do doubt myself and one of my best friends Ashton, she said I'm really worried sometimes when, you know, you look in the comments and maybe there's this one negative comment versus the other a hundred, you know, positive comments. And I do take that to heart 'cause I want. I want people to feel seen. I do want people to feel hurt, so when it doesn't resonate with someone, I do get a little like in my head about it, but knowing that there's 20,000 people here, it may be just that one, and then there's, you know, maybe 19,000 others who are resonating with it. So I think I'm becoming more confident of what I'm saying and just being who I am. And if people don't agree, that's okay. Right, right.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Because we're not for everybody, as they say. Right. So as a queer black woman in public spaces, do you think people need to understand you in a different way that they usually miss, Or do you feel like. The way you are showing up is exactly the way you want people to see you.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)see you? I think a little bit of both. I think because I am so loud about being black, I'm so loud about being queer that people. It's easier for people to take who I am at face value just because that's how I exude myself, or I introduce myself as. But I think there's still spaces, especially as a feminine presenting lesbian where it's like, oh, you know, I maybe wouldn't think that she is queer. So when people do try to talk to me about something or they say something, not homophobic, but maybe a little controversial, I'm like, uh, wrong crowd. Not too much. Not too much. Relax. And
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)You're saying that to yourself? You're saying that to
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that to them? To them. Like, they'll say something, they'll say I had there was a coworker and he was saying something about his son really just needing to act like a man. And I said that's a little problematic. But you know, maybe because you don't know your crowd you know, they're just showing up as who they wanna show up as. But for me it's like, ah, that's very important to me to stand on that. To make sure that's not like a thing.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)right. Well, let's go
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)go back to your
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)right? So you are in the Air Force.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Force
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)And on our conversation we had a few weeks ago, you mentioned that you are working in optometry. Is that correct? Yeah. So take me back. What made you first enlist in the Air Force?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Force? So I am third generation military on actually both sides of my family. So it goes back to my grandparents on both sides and everyone in the mil, uh, everyone in my family, they're in the Army. But if you, I don't know if you know much about the army, but it's very like. Let's go to the field. And my mom was like, absolutely not. That's not gonna, and I said, you know what, you're so right. So I, it definitely was the Air Force for me. When I first started. I've been in about almost 12 years now. I was at, I don't know, understand how the time passed. Thank you.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Before I was doing emergency management, that was my first. Job in the Air Force. I was doing that for about eight years. It was definitely mentally taxing. I struggled a lot with wanting to stay in the military. And then about four years ago now I was given the opportunity to retrain into a new career field, and I always knew that I wanted to like, help people. And as someone who wears glasses, I was like, oh, optometry just seems perfect. Ever since then, my life has had like a literal 360. I've been so happy in this space. And now it's been amazing.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Wow, that is so, so interesting. So. I don't know that much about the military. One of my grandpas or was in the.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)was in the
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Marines and he was like a gunnery sergeant. So he was, you know, driving tanks in the wars and all those kinds of things. My dad was in the army, but he was a heavy equipment operator. So he was like, again, out in the field, like you said, like that really like deep sort of
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)of
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)battle all the time. So is the Air Force more of the regal part of our armed
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)people? People would definitely say they do call us the chair force, or, yes. Or they're like, oh, like when we go out to the field, like we're staying in a hotel versus being in a tent and, you know, maybe they're not wrong. They may not be wrong but it is important, you know, to have this cyber power, this air power. So I think it's still, we do, we just do it a little bit differently. You know, there are people for the field work. I am not one of those,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I am not for the military at all. 'cause
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)at all.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)time they yelled at me, I would cry or I would back talk and they would slap me
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)right.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)be like, yeah, I would
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right. See, and that, that part, like through basic training, getting yelled at to me, I thought was, that was like the smallest stuff. Like I, my mom yelled at me all the time, well, I don't wanna say she yelled at me, sorry, mom. But growing up, like her being Army, it was like normal for her. So that piece and structure is very normal for me. But the going out and setting up Tim, I was like, ah, you know, I don't know if that part's for me, but the Air Force has been so amazing to me these past 12 years. So. It's brought so many opportunities, travel, meeting people, my amazing friends. You know, I definitely wouldn't be where I am without that piece of my life. For sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That is so cool. So when you started Basic, did you know you were a lesbian then, or queer then, or did it.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)did it sort of
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)manifest during
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)growing up.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I, all of my first have been with women from like very young. My first kiss, my first crush. Am I allowed to tell like a longish story
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)All of what you want is
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay. Beautiful. So, when I was in middle school, that was the first time I had seen a masculine presenting woman and she played basketball and I said, wow. That right there, that's what I've been looking for. That's exactly what I've been looking for.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I love that.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)and I was I was living with one of my volleyball teammates while my mom was deployed and she also played basketball with her. And I said, Hey, like that girl right there. I think she's beautiful. I need her. And I think she ended up telling our volleyball team and all of the volleyball team just stopped talking to me. And I was like, oh. Okay, cool. But I didn't really think any too much of it. It was just like, uh, you know, I, it wasn't a big deal to me. Right, right. So it wasn't really a big, I didn't see it as like this big thing that they were talking to me because they found out I like women. It was just like, oh, they're not talking to me because. I like this person. So I was like, okay, you know, weird but whatever. And then there was a guy that I guess liked me and I was like, oh okay, cool. Like, this isn't really the same, but you know, everyone was like, oh, you should do it. And I was like, yeah, sure. Didn't last very long. And then skipped to high school. I, the only boyfriend that I had. He went to a different school and I was like, oh my God, this is perfect. He's a great guy, but I don't have to see him every day. I don't have to. Like, I was like, I don't have to hold hands every day. Like, this is perfect, this is great. We could talk about sports together, we could laugh, but like surface level. And I was like, this is great. And then when I found out that I was joining the military, I was like, you know what, maybe we shouldn't like continue this. You know, I'm about to go into the military. It's fine. And then before I left, I was like, but I really don't wanna go to the military or virgin. So I was like, you know what, let's just get this over with. So after I graduated high school, I was like, let's just do this one time. And I was like, Ugh. Again, this is not what the people are saying. This is like, I'm not really enjoying this the way you guys are, I don't think. But you know, I was like, experiences. Cool. Then I joined the military, had another boyfriend and then he also lived far away. So I was like, again, this is. Fantastic. We can talk on the phone, but we don't have to be like physical. This is so great.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I don't have
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)course. Exactly. Of course. That didn't pan out. And then I did something so military, so crazy. Like I ended up getting married.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Wow.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)yeah. I married this guy. We were both cowboys fans. It was great. We never held hands. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm just not a physical touch person. Maybe that's what this is. And that's okay because we got along really well. But for other crazy reasons, it didn't work out great. And then I started talking to a woman and I had my first like, full sexual experience with a woman, and I said, uh oh. Yes, I am. I actually love physical touch. It's like actually needed. And so, here we're, so that was the last man I was ever with. And yeah. And I said, okay I'm here. I'm sad.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh, that is so cute. I love the part where you're like, oh, I am.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)yeah,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh, I'm,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I actually love physical touch. What do you mean? Yeah. Oh.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)God. So tell me about the experience. You're telling me surface level stuff, but like really, tell me about that
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)man. Okay. So it wasn't really anything big, but it was just the beauty I think first off of women. Like it's not just a physical aspect, it was like a mental connection and this like, it felt. Like, everyone's like, oh, you know, your first lesbian experience. It's so euphoric. And it was, I was like, wow. Like this is what actual pleasure feels like in exploring my body and really like exploring what I actually like. I don't think I ever got to experience that and someone who took time with me and, man, it was just Right. Right. It was just, I think it was more so of just like the, it was more of just a physical connection. It was the first time, like my mind got stimulated from an experience with someone. And ever since then, I think it's just grown and grown with each woman that I've been with for
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right, right. I'm sure the first time it was like an awakening
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)it will happen again as you get closer and closer to the one.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)the one.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)It literally is a reawakening even after all the women that I've been with. Like when you finally find that person, you will know
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That's
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)way different than anything else. And I just have recently discovered
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I'm talking
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)to you and your girlfriend.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Thank you. Thank you. Yes. And it has been absolutely mind blowing, like.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)You. Beautiful.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)blowing. So when you said you were getting ready and centered, I was working out my mouth.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Good for you.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)my body.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Good for you. I love this.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)shown up to a podcast freshly
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)So here I am.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)And if you guys could see her face now, this is perfect.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah, you're so funny. Anyway
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)so.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)there's a couple more things I wanna ask you about military service. How are your, like
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)like
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)counterparts or your coworkers feeling about your online presence, do they
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)do they know
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)or is it a secret?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)At first, I was like, oh my goodness, I do not want them to hear me talk about, you know, how I love to strap masculine women. You know, that's probably not the best place for, you know, people who are under me to hear me talk about this. And then like, as the weeks or months went by, uh, my coworker's like, oh, I, uh, seen you on, uh, on TikTok. And I said, oh, sorry I don't know. And so now I think. Everyone knows. I just came back from Miami to go see the basketball game and I had a coworker. She said how was your trip? I said what do you mean? She's like, oh, I've seen your video. It looked like you had fun. I said, oh, all right, cool. Cool, cool. So it's definitely becoming more of like, most people know. And at first it was a little, I don't wanna say embarrassing, but I was like more shy about it. But again, I'm so loud about being a lesbian and, uh, being black that it's now I'm just like, yeah. And what about it? Did, are you interested because your for you page is trying to tell you something? I think so. You, so now it's more of a joke for sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)So are you going to basketball games looking for more basketball players to
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my goodness. Your lady. Oh my God. I would love, you know, if anyone out there is listening. When we went to the Unrivaled game we were court side and for the first two games and I said, wow, like not only are these women like super. Just amazing athletes, but they are beautiful women, like inside and out and just like listening to their, like after game speeches and interviews, I was like, oh my God, how does, how is everyone not gay? I just don't understand.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)right.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my God, I love it. So let's go back to the strapping masculine
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)masculine women.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Tell me.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Love. Just, I the stigma behind feminine women having to just be like the bottom or the receiver. It's just like, ah, that's so like outdated. Like, let's do something else. Like, I enjoy this. There's a reason why I enjoy this. We have the same anatomy. You'll probably enjoy this. So I think the masculine presenting woman that I've been with. When it's like presented to them, they're like, oh, never. I've never done that. I don't know if I really like that. And then they try and they're like, oh, this is great. Exactly. So I just think maybe people aren't, as, people still maybe not, are not as open to trying it or maybe afraid to try it. Maybe I should say. But great time. Love it. It's like, ugh, it's such an experience.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Do you like it done to
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)done to you? Absolutely. I think I'm freaked out in all the ways. For sure. For sure. So
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)when someone does it
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)does it to you, do you
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)them to be
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)like,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)you want them to have like top energy masculine, or do you want like a feminine, dainty kind of girl, like
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I love
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)her groove on?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)off for sure. So I definitely think I give very burst switch energy. So I think it really just depends on the move. Sometimes I like to be a power bottom, like, yes, you can strap me, but also like I'm gonna tell you how I want to be strapped. And then there's other times where I want to turn my brain completely off and, you know, do whatever you want to me. Great times, and if I'm on top, sometimes I just want to do what I feel like you need and sometimes I wanna be told exactly what you need. So I think it just really depends on the person, situation, the vibe. But I love a good like power dynamic for sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)And how much taller than you do you want them to be?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I'm sure. I'm five two, so it doesn't really take much, are you? Yeah. It doesn't take much I, I know it doesn't take much, but like I would say like five, seven and up would be great, but being taller than me is so easy these days I'm just like, nah, it's fine. Okay.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that's so funny because I'm like imagining that you're like a little bit taller and you want like this really tall basketball
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)energy and
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)for sure. For sure. I love all the energies. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my God. That's great. I love it. So let's go back to, when the military celebrates a force, how do you, how are you able to fit in that knowing that we're not really supposed to be out in the military? Are we supposed to be out like, I'm confused right now, even where the don't ask, don't tell.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)for sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)anymore.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)This one, I. A little tricky, so don't ask, don't tell. I was never around for that and it's not a thing anymore. But recently, I don't know, I think it's service wide, military wide. DEI has went away. So celebrating those di things is not a thing anymore. Which can be a little hard to deal with at times. I'll leave it there, I think. Okay. That one's a little tough to kind of Yeah. Answer, but
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)yeah.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I will never no. For sure. I will never hide who I am. I can definitely still show up. As a woman, I am as a queer woman. I am. But I think celebrating it in all the ways is a little bit harder. Currently,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Are you guys allowed to date each other and
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)For sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh, okay. So it's not like some other things where you
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)right
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)date somebody in your rank or
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)It's just mostly, well, we can't date like directly in your chain of command, but you can date like another queer person in the military. That's fine. It's just more so of. Like the celebrating pride months and things that aren't we can't do that anymore.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)And
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)And
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)what sorts of things did they tell you, like as things were changing or when you went in 12 years ago? Was it. Were they, was that part of like the rules that you signed or anything? I mean, educate me 'cause I'm very uneducated
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Are you talking about like the queer spaces?
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah. Like did they say, you know, we can't, you know, wear pride flags in your bunk or whatever. Was there like all these sets of rules?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)so that, I think that was mostly a don't ask, don't tell era. And I wanna say that ended in 2012. Don't quote me. I'm not too sure. But before then, you weren't allowed to like expressively outwardly be queer date same sex. Definitely not a thing. Now it's, you know, do what you want. There's definitely, I would say, some people that maybe aren't experienced or haven't come across people who are queer, especially when you have people coming from, you know, all over the country who may have lived in a very different lifestyle who've never been accustomed to it. Maybe have more questions or maybe give you like a certain like, oh, I didn't know, or, you know, it may just take a little bit longer to understand, but with the DEI going away, we now cannot display flags. So no on that aspect. But we can still be who we are. We can still show up as queer women, which is very important to me. So I'm still being able to be who I am.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay. So
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)So
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)queer people shouldn't be afraid to still join the military if that's what they want.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that's what they want, right? Absolutely not. My best friend is queer very loudly queer. I will never shy away from who I am, and I think that would be something that I would have to like, think about if I wasn't able to be authentically me about being in the military. For sure.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)So what about Officer Rankings? Can you
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)it's the
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)going? Okay.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)It's just that we can't date officers. That would be like our hard, can't do that one.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay. Are you aspiring to be an officer?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I think beforehand I was. I'm very type A, I like to be in charge all the time, very bossy. So it definitely seemed very fitting for me. But I think where I'm at now, I just love being able to help. My peers, my airmen around me to where I just really love what I do. I don't think that's really something that I want to do anymore. So no, not anymore.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Do you wanna tell people what you do in the military?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah, so I am an a optometry assistant. So we do pretty much eye exams, a lot for like readiness purposes. Getting people out the door, making sure their vision's okay, if they have any ocular issues glaucoma, stuff like that. I think the, my favorite part of it is definitely like the acute care of being medical of like someone comes in and they got hit in the eye now, like their whole back of the eye is bleeding.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh wow.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)or you know, they got jet fuel. In their eye and we're having to, you know, treat that. And so stuff like that, I'm like, wow. Like it's more than just, oh, let me get you some new glasses, you know, before you leave for deployment. It's really making sure that people are okay, especially with life limb and eyesight. It's such a big thing because once that goes, especially for like our pilots, that's their whole career right there. So I really enjoy what I do now, but mostly now I'm, uh, doing admin work since I am an E six now. So it's a lot of like scheduling and appointments and stuff like that, but still love the career field.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Do you have your eye on a lady pilot?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)pregnant? Oh, well that would be an officer. So no, I cannot do that. But I think dating other, I think before I was so like gung ho on dating someone else in the military because I'm like, oh, it's so easy, you know, I don't have to like explain what I do or. All the things. Now I'm just like, uh, it's like weird, like we're just talking about the military all day Like, uh, so it's yeah, but you know, I'm not opposed to, you know, if that, uh, ladies out there call me, so I don't, yeah, I don't know, but probably not. Nah. But
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)What percentage of women or women identifying people are in the Air Force, do you know?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Force? I do not know, but I do know that the military makes up 1% of the US population. So I definitely, in the, where I work, I maybe know five, maybe 10 max. 10 max out of, I think there's about 300 something of us. So it's not a lot for sure. Not a lot for sure. And but I think being queer and being in the military, finding distance, love and like another base is definitely always gonna happen. For
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah. Oh, that's so much fun. So much fun. I want you to come with us to the basketball game
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my goodness. I would love.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)So when you decided to go. Into the military and you decided to launch this incredible part of your TikTok. I don't have talk TikTok. But when you decided to switch over to Instagram, what parts of you did you hope? People could still really see the military part of you and your service and honor for our country, which thank you so much for that because like I said before, it's not something I could do. 'cause I'm too big of a pussy, even though I love pussy. I am a pussy, so, but I'm really strong at the same time too. I'm
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Of course.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I don't like to be told what to do by people that think they can like just destroy me. So that's probably where it comes from. But what part of that like made you get to that point where you're like, no, I have to keep getting this out
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)out there,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Even if you thought it might change something with your career, how did you like get out of your head and go, no, this is equally as important.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes. I think it was the first time someone in the comments had said something about, man, I really needed to hear this today, or This is exactly how I feel. I just didn't know like the words to say it. I said, wow. Like, that's so. Crazy for me to think that something I said just had this big, like, epiphany for someone else. And then it was more so of the first time I started thinking about things outside of the military and being able to be me, show up and be monetized for. For doing that. So, and a lot of people were saying, oh, you know, like if you go to Instagram, it's easier to make like a platform and a community. And I started my, I think I put my first video on Instagram in October and I said, wow, like the growth on Instagram was crazy. It just blew my mind. And to have like, now I think the community that I have over there, I'm like, this is just so beautiful. So I think these past couple months, especially. Was the first time where I thought about like, man, maybe there is something outside of the military that I've never even thought of. So I think it's still hard to balance those two because 12 years is so long. I'm only eight years away from retirement. But then there's this thing over here where it's like, I have this community, I have this platform, I have things I want to say. So it's, I don't know. That one is still a little bit tricky for me right now and it's, I'm trying to really put my all into both and show up authentically into both. But it's definitely still a challenge to, to really figure out where both are going for me right now.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right. Well, and I must have found you like shortly after you launched on Instagram because, and that's what I try to do. I try to find people really fresh that I.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)It's
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Obviously they don't seem tired yet. They're not like canned, which, 'cause I hate canned responses when I'm asking questions, I'm like, don't tell me the same thing you've told everyone else. I want to hear like something new and different and have it spark with a different audience because we all have different audiences obviously. But I love that you. Popped into my feed and I just start like looking at all of your things and I'm like, oh my God. And I obviously cold DMed you. I love you. Can you come on my show? Like, 'cause it was so powerful and it's like. What you said totally spoke to me, right? The way you said it, being black spoke to me. I have two half black grandchildren, so it's very close to my heart. Everything that you guys go through we're Native American on my side, so things that. Other Native American people go through and I really love that you popped in that quick and now I've been like, you know, following you along and watching you. And when you said you wanted to come on the show and we had our chat and you wanted to come on, I just really feel like. You're gonna be even huger than you are, like way huger. And the stories that you're sharing and the people that you're saving, right? Because that's what I look at when I do this, is we're saving other people from trauma drama. Sometimes people not even wanna be
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)want to be
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)on this earth anymore, right? Because they can go, okay, I'll just go on Carl Niche's, you know, feed and she'll talk me out of it. You know, those kinds of things. And it's such a.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right. It's such
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)A heavy place to be in for us, but it's so, I'm so grateful for it to have that voice to talk to people. Yeah.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)to people. Well, one, thank you for saying that. That was. Uh, stuff like that is where I'm like, man, it is just bigger than like me hitting record and just yapping my life away. And it's so to even think that this is like a place that, that I can be in is amazing. And when you sent me that first request about being on the podcast, I said I had, I think I had to, like, when you sent me the email, I think I had to click just to make sure it wasn't like a, at Gmail. 'cause I was like, there's no way someone wants to just hear me. Like, yep. I was so like. I showed all my friends, I was like, oh my God, guys, I think I made it. I'm gonna be on a podcast. But it was just so, I was just so thankful and grateful, even now, like being in a space of people are looking forward, I think. I posted a video last night and someone said, everyone shush. My show was on. And I was like, Ugh. Like, those comments are always my favorite. It's just so beautiful to know that people are looking forward to listening and showing up with me and wanting to go on this journey with me. Yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes, it is why people like you and I do it.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)it.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)We do it because.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)it because
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)When you know you can change someone's life for the better or wake up someone who doesn't think they like people like you and I, and they're like, wait a minute, they're not so bad. They're actually really great people. That is why I do this. Absolutely. That is why I do this. And I love meeting you guys. I mean, I have met over the last 30 ish episodes that I've met. I have like 30 new friends, right? Even if they were already my friend, I know things about them now that I didn't know about them before. 'cause we don't usually interview our friends. And in this sort of way where.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)where
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Their story's can be shared with everyone else. 'cause usually we're shooting this shit, right? And I might say, oh my God, my friend said this funny thing, but only that friend heard it. Right? But now we're just amplifying your voice here and everything that you can do for everyone, and I'm so proud of you and so happy for you. So,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I do wanna put like in a shameless little plug for you because I'm so thankful for all of the words that you're saying to me. But I, you were telling me that you're now going into season two
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes. Season
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)just, oh my goodness. Like you were saying that a lot of people don't even make it here. And I was listening to another, I was listening to another episode and I'm like. There's no way she wouldn't have, like, you couldn't have even thought that you're, you weren't gonna be in season two. Like that's just so amazing. So congratulations to you as well.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh, thank you. That's so sweet.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Of
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That is so sweet. Because when I started it.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)it,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)You don't think that you're gonna have the say I Amina to start with Because it is a lot, right? Like every week I show up in a long format, right? There's editing even though it's crappy, there's still editing. Uh, 'cause I'm still learning,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)learning. Right?
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)but it's still like getting the questions together and getting people on your calendar and making sure, you know. All of the devices work and things like that. So I can see why a lot of people do drop out of this. 'cause most people don't even make it to five episodes. So I knew when I started, the way that the months worked out, I wanted to start September 1st, which was a Wednesday and I want to go through the Wednesdays. And it just happened that it ended on New Year's Eve. So it was like, I just kept thinking about it. Like my finale, you know, it's gonna be New Year's Eve. Then am I gonna pick up for season two? And I couldn't not because I had people that were stacked from the fall that I couldn't get on the show before. So I was like, I have to do a season two. 'cause there's people waiting to come on the show. So thank you. I
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I love that for you. Of course. Of course.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Thank you. I think that you are. Going to just keep blowing up and I know it's gonna be tiresome, and when you can't do it, it's okay. Maybe send a little blurb to everyone. You guys am okay. I just need a break for a week. I'm going on vacation. Especially girl, once you get your girlfriend. Right. You are not going to be wanting to be online. You're gonna wanna be in bed on the counter, in the shower,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)oh, this.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)in the basketball workout
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Right, right.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That's who you're gonna wanna be. So, I know we sort of touched on this, but after the military, where do you see your life going?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)That is a great question and I do not know. For the longest time. Everyone's like, what's your passion? What's your passion? I have no clue. I love to yap. That is my passion. Talking about absolutely nothing and everything. So I think now being in this space, hopefully social media, that would be amazing to just continue to yap and people wanting to hear me up and somehow getting paid for it. I that would be amazing.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)be great for
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)but I also think you should take it on a tour. Like start. Yes. Legitimately you should take it on a tour. You should start showing up at like.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)up at like
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Lesbian events, like there's so many events around the country and I know if it's okay if I share where you're moving to.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes, absolutely.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Okay, so she's moving to Hawaii, you guys, I'm introducing her to some of my friends. 'cause as you guys know, I used to live in Hawaii. But you can start there and just show up at these events and talk to people and just build that momentum of being like a. A visible out queer black, incredibly strong and beautiful woman that has a voice and brains and can talk and really just relate to people.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)to people. I just,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I just,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I would love that.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I just think
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)sounds great.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)best way to get going. You know, reach out to the lesbian promoters and just say, Hey, you guys, I have this many followers and I'd love to come and like, be a presence and share a story for people, like some in between sets or something
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)something like that.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah. I think it would be really great for you.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)I'm gonna have to look into that. 'cause I was like, that's something I've never even thought of. But yeah, I would love that.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yes. 'cause you're so funny. When you get into your on online presence person, can you drop into that right now? Is it possible?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah. Let me see what I can cook up for you. I actually, I made a little the next video I was gonna actually do. Once I find my girl, I know that I'm just gonna be like. My page is gonna become her fan page and it doesn't really even matter about anything else. And I'm just such a, I'm such a lover girl. Like, and I think the persona of like the, I think of like extra umph when I'm saying things, it's just like, because I just love so hard and when I find her, I am gonna thump her on her head for making me wait so long. But I'm going to love her so loudly and I'm just so excited.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my God, I love that For you,
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)tree. Thank you.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)you have to share it with me. I want to have you and your person back on the show when you get there. 'cause I would love to like hear the story. The meet cute, the whole
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)like first experiencing that would be. So
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Cool.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)cool. Yeah. I tell everybody you're never just a guess once on here, because I have to do follow up.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)love it. I love it.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)have to follow up. So if someone truly wanted to know you, what's the first question they should ask you?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)you? Maybe why? I feel like the something I get a lot when people meet me is you are always smiling and I think it's why I am always so happy or I seem so happy. I just started going to therapy three years ago and I just started getting like treated for anxiety and OCD and coming out of that space. Thank you. Coming out of that space where I was so down and I would wake up just not really wanting to, you know, do life today and now getting to a point where I wake up and I'm like, man, it's raining outside, but. I have, I'm about to go see my best friends. I'm about to go yap. I'm about to go make these videos that people are gonna laugh about. I'm gonna go look at some pretty girls online. It's just now, it's just like when people are like, oh my God, why are you always smiling? I'm like, why not? At this point in my life, why not? I am so happy about the people that are around me. Of course there's low days, but now it's just like, I'm just so blessed with the people in my life. Things going on in my life. I have to be.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Yeah, I'm a huge proponent of therapy and I'm so proud of you for that too.
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)too. Thank you. So it takes,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)that takes a lot of energy to get in there, do the work, keep doing the work, and keep all the. Bad energies and bad people away from you so that you can grow. And your partner is gonna be so grateful for you for doing this too, right? Because you're gonna show up like so much better than you would've three and a half years ago, and you can share that with her, right? Like, this is how I was, and this is where I'm at, and this is how we can still grow together because. If you don't grow together right, it sort of dies out. Everyone has to keep growing, so that is just so amazing. Can you tell everybody where we can find you?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)of course, on Instagram, TikTok at carneisha, C-A-R-L-N-E-E-S-H-A. And I just started a YouTube. I would love to do like long form blogs, so it's also the same over there at carneisha. And uh, yeah, I hope you come to see me up. Oh,
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh my God, I can't wait. Yes. I wanna have you back on the show for sure, but let's just keep in touch and is there anything else you'd want us to know or say or plug before we go?
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)go? I don't have anything right now, but catch me at a local basketball game near you, finding my future wife. And thank you. Thank you again, Quincy, for bringing me on. I am just so, so thankful and so grateful to be here and this was just such an amazing session. I loved it.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)Oh, thank you so much for coming on. I'm honored, especially once I saw your hit your 20,000. I'm like, oh my God. This
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)yes. We have to talk about Yes.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)for you. I'm so
carlneesha-robinswon--she-her-_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)thank you.
quincy_1_01-18-2026_090702 (1)you.
