VAMOS, HERMANO! ARGENTINA VS. SPAIN | EP 36

QUÉ PASA A TODOS?! Welcome to this week's episode of the WaterBros. This week, you better believe we dive into the World Cup preview for Argentina vs Spain for the World Cup! Give a listen as we dive into each team's history in the tournament and against each other. 

We also take some time to get hydrated with some high quality H20 (also World Cup focused), talk about the Open Championship, and give a win record teaser for the UofU to prep for next week's episode. 

We hope you join us on the bench and subscribe, review, and share this episode with your sports-obsessed friends. 

As always, Stay Hydrated! 

Transcript

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What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Water Bros podcast. As always, we're your hosts. I'm Zach. This is my little brother Ben. Grab a drink. Get to the bench. Vamos a la Copa Mundial. Argentina versus Spana. Vamos, boys. I cannot wait, Benny. Vamos. What are we talking about today, dude? Well, today is exciting. We've got the basically the countries that we lived in for a few years represented in the World Cup final, La Copa Mundial, um, in the Meadowlands uh this week. So, or this weekend, I should say. We are coming up close on it. But overall, great episode. We're gonna dive into all things World Cup final. But first, we're gonna fill the jug. What's been happening? How we're how we're doing, how's the week? How's life? And some high quality H2O. We gotta highlight the H2 H2O. And a lot of that is World Cup based. We got a lot of World Cup going on. Um, got to highlight the positives in the sports world. Gotta talk some some golf. I mean, the Open Championship is happening right now, right in the middle of the Copa Mundial. We also have um, you've got NBA, summer league action, free agency. There's NFL news, they're getting into training camp with the rookies. Today was the first day for the Seahawks. There's a lot going on. The SBs were this week. We're getting very close to football season two. I can taste it. I am so excited. But we will give the World Cup its time in the sunshine before too long, it's gonna be all football all the time on here. Yes, we are coming up towards the end of the offseason, getting into regular season football weekly programming. So we're excited about that. So we're gonna talk the final of this week for the World Cup before diving into a little bit of um little college football, a little taste of the Utes they're overunder and where we think they'll land in terms of wins and losses this year. With that being said, Zach, why don't you kick us off with Fill the Jug? What's been Fillin' the Jug this week? Dude, it has been a crazy week, as you know from the group chat, but I'm gonna start out filling the jug. As Ute fans, we're I mean, obviously, Swoop, he's the mascot for the Utes. Absolutely. This week, we rescued a hawk. A full blown, full grown hawk. Well, I mean, it was juvenile, but it was huge, like big as my chest. Like that that hawk was yeah you know, torso size. Yeah, crazy. And uh we we saw it was down, it was in our neighbor's yard. Our sweet neighbor gave us a call. She's a a little old lady widow, and she's like, Zach, there's a hawk in my yard, and he can't seem to fly. I don't know what to do, but I know I gotta do something. And so uh I went over there after I got back from work. Drew's found the hawk because it traveled a little bit down to the next uh yard, and uh Drew found it with his binoculars. So proud shout out Drew. He nailed it. That's awesome. The hawk had a little broken wing. I uh went out with a towel, threw it over the hawk's head, put that hawk in a box, and uh we were able to take it to a rehab center. It was crazy. First of all, did did you research? Did you do some Chat GPT? I need to catch a hawk. What do I do? Um, so I first called the rehab center. Like, hey, uh, I have a giant hawk down. And they're like, Well, are you sure? Like, sometimes if they eat a lot, they can't fly for a while. If it's juvenile, they don't fly very well. That might have just tried to go and it couldn't. And uh, so I took some pictures. Janice, our neighbor, took some pictures, and we texted him. He's like, Oh, it looks fine. And I'm on the phone with like the bird specialist, and I was like, I don't think so. It's hobbling around, it extends one wing when it hops, the other one's stuck, it can't do anything. And so they're like, Oh, well, then uh, you know, we probably need to bring it in. We rely on you to to bring it to us. So then they told me, grab a towel, put a towel in the bottom of a box, toss a towel over the hawk's head, and when you grab it, just grab your fingers around its wings and your thumbs in the middle of its back. And so I love it. Did it thrash at all? No, it it fluttered a little bit. It was on that railing, and it didn't want to get it railing for a second, so I like had to kind of just gently kind of pull until it released its talon grip. Yeah. And uh then once it was in there, I was like, I don't want to suffocate with this towel. So I started to peel the towel back a little bit, and as soon as its head was free, it started to pop. So I had shut shut in that box as fast as I could. And uh it hopped around a little bit, but once I put it in my basement, because we taped the box shut, had holes in the box so it could breathe, and then we put it in the basement where it's nice and cool and dark in this room, actually. And once I did that, it stopped hopping around, it was really chill and just kind of went into a zen state till I dropped it off. Wow, crazy. Add that to my like never have you ever list. I mean, someone can get me pretty easy with with that one. So never have I ever saved a hawk. Yeah, so we we saved a hawk. That was really cool. The kids have been playing catch the hawk this week since we had that experience. And I mean it's been it's been cracking me up. But well, so so from that experience as well, are they going to be able to like give you an update on what's happening with the hawk? Like, are they gonna let you know when it's healthy? Yeah, so they took all my information. I need to text them and be like, hey, Drew named the hawk Horace, so we're gonna call the hawk Horace. Um so I need to text them and ask him, like, hey, when Horace rehabilitates, because they'll either release Horace into the wild if they can, or he'll become an or he or she, I actually don't know, will become an education bird. Um, whether it's at the aviary or at the zoo or wherever makes sense. So if that's the case, like we could go see our hawk, yeah. That's that's insane. It was it confirmed that it was a red-tailed hawk. It was not a red-tailed hawk, like swoop. It I can't remember the name of the hawk that the bird specialist said. It like started with a pee, but it was not a paragraph and falcon. I know, that was the first thing I thought of, too. Because I was trying to think, what's the other like pee for a hawk, though? Yeah, the lady said it, and it I was in the moment of watching the the bird, so I I didn't catch exactly, but she's like, that's like a five-week juvenile hawk. And they just get big really fast. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the picture you took of it was awesome. Right. That's like a barrel. And its eyes just like staring into my soul. I was like, oh gosh. People may say that a hawk is uh maybe like a weak mascot or something. Like, what is a bird gonna do? No, that that thing penetrated. Yeah, just staring me down. I think that's a sweet mascot, if you ask me. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. But so hopefully that bodes well for my bird fandom. You know, I'm an Eagles fan, youths fan, bird mascot. That's true. Bird birds all around. Hopefully, doing the good turn pays off. Yeah, I think so. Some good karma's coming our way. I believe that. It was it was pretty cool. That's awesome. What about you, dude? That that's probably the highlight of my week, but what about you? What's going on? Man, uh I think what's filling the jug is we in this room, and I'm actually very sad because to record we had to take it down, but we put together the coolest fort in this room. Did you for Rudy? Yeah, we put a fort build. Yeah, we we did a fort and we had it up basically all week, um, which has been super awesome. Just a ton of fun to just like come in here, lay down, and like Rudy started to watch like Scooby-Doo. We started showing him some Scooby-Doo shows, and so we'll watch like that in there. We watch like Pirates of the Caribbean in there.

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So funny.

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And it's just been a blast. And Heather and I have even just come down and hung out in in the fort at night, like, because I I love it.

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I'm a I'm a nerd like that.

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It takes me back to when we were first living in the basement apartment, and at Christmas time, we would bring we would bring our mattress out of our bedroom and take it into the living room so I we could sleep by the Christmas tree. I I love that stuff. I think it's fun, man. I love that you guys were hanging out chilling in the fort as well. I mean, forts are fun. It's a good time. And that room is actually really good for a fort because it's got some good things you can support on. Yeah, we basically had so everything was you know supported back behind the couch, so all these sheets, and then the this little ladder thing right behind it sat on the chair, well, was like on top of the chair that I'm sitting on right now, and it sat in the middle of the room, so that was our height. Our height, yeah. And we tied everything to that, and then you know, we have the desk right here, so it connected everything to the desk. And then we took down the art piece on the wall, and there's there's you know some pretty pretty perfect nails that we tied the sheets to and we crisscrossed them. So it was you had a legit fort. I will give I will give Heather a lot of the credit. She's she's good at that stuff. I was trying to think, like, okay, well, how would we do this? And she just moving bringing all the stuff down. It was great. A fort architect. He has I love it. Yeah. So now the next section is we'll have to do a fort up in the loft. I think that would be a sweet spot. That would be perfect because you have that rail, and then I think what we should do is maybe have like an opening by that window and have some of the moonlight just come through the window. I like it. That'd be pretty like it. I like it a lot. So, I mean, that's been filling the jug. It's been it's been a busy week. I mean, we're here in the middle of July. Um, so honestly, not much else. I feel like um just hanging out with family, getting excited for Bear Lake next week. Yeah, it's gonna be an absolute blast. That will be a really good time. Play some more golf. Play some more golf. I gotta see if I can you know, obviously World Cup coming up this weekend, but I gotta see if I can figure out how to play. I don't know if I'll be able to play this weekend, but that's alright. Yeah, it's okay. We'll we'd we'll get we can fit something in to warm up, you know. Yes, that that's that would probably be needed um for me. I need to swing way more than I have been. But overall, yeah, the the jug is full, feeling good about life, um, which brings us into our second longest standing segment of high quality H2O, ladies and gentlemen. And I'll take this first one if you don't mind. No, please do. Now, with the with some high quality H2O, I think there is one particular person on this planet that never, unless he misses a penalty kick, but never puts anything up that's not high quality H2O, and that's Lou Lionel Messi from Argentina, Viva La Patria, Aguante, Argentina, Messi saves Argentina for the second time in a row. Absolute stunning performance. I was thinking Unbelievable, dude. Back to back times where I was like, well, they're probably gonna lose 75 minutes in, but England they decided to park the bus way too soon. You can't park the bus against Argentina. No, they're gonna come at your throat. And Messi has first the assist with the left foot, and we get and we get our first goal on well, passes it over to Enzo Fernandez with an absolute strike to the left corn top corner of the net. Um, and then to continue his lead of all-time assists in the World Cup, Messi with his right foot dribbles all the way down to that end line, the goal line, um, by the goal, launches up the most beautiful volley, little lob pass, and Lautaro Martinez just thinking. Which is maybe one of the most satisfying things to watch in soccer is someone catching a cross that's perfect and just sending it into the to the goal with their head. Like it the header is so cool. I personally think that the header off of a cross is like probably a couple times better than an alley oop in basketball. That's how that's how cool I think a header like if we're talking like scoring highlight, like Mount Rushmore plays. Mm-hmm. A cross to header goal is gotta be up there in the top five. Like it is such a cool play to witness and watch. What makes it so unique, too, is Messi has to account for Dan Byrne, who England has been substituting in very late in each match that they've played in as they've gone defensive heavy, and he's this massive English dude. Yeah, Burns. And yeah, and you can just get it right over the defense, just perfectly for only where Lautaro Martinez is. And I will say one of the players that was playing absolutely incredible was McAllister. McAllister looks like he should be from Europe, but no, he's Argentine. And he was he was this close to two goals where one was a header, barely missed it, hit the other one, and it hit the post. He like Argentina can get their shots on goal. The key is let's let's try and not fall behind in a World Cup final against La Minha Mal and O Yarzabal. Hey, but let's just talk about before we move into my high-quality H2O. H2O. Um, I mean, let's actually, no, we'll get to that. But Argentina has consistently done what they be doing, and it's unbelievable how they keep pulling it out and winning. It's like a magic trick. Um, but mine, Benny, going to the game, Spain versus France. France was favored going in, they were favored throughout the tournament. How can you stop Mbappe and Bele? Well, guess what? The Spaniards can. Like, pretty difficult. Convincingly, but I want to shout out because it, like you just said, England parked the bus. You got a little nervous in the Spain versus France game. I feel like Spain, we were up to they they were in a good spot. France was putting it on, and they were getting a lot of pressure, a lot of shots on goal. But you have Unay Simone standing on his head. I don't know if that's also a soccer term, but that is what he did. My favorite though is he comes out of the box, and in my mind, I'm thinking, oh no, Team USA, they did this, and it did not go well. He comes out of the box pretty far, disrupts the play, but still goes to France possession. He rallies, comes back, and jumps in front of the goal that was guaranteed in, but he bodies it. And it, I mean, just has this sequence of pure athleticism and speed. Simone gets my high quality H2O to make sure that no French ball passed those goalposts, and it was awesome. Yeah. I mean, it it's absolutely incredible. I think being a goalie in soccer is a extremely difficult task. And I mean, he made it look very easy. Uh, and he made Mbappe so mad he came up and clocked him, you know. He just I mean, there might have been some theatrics on Simone's part, but he definitely came in and and got him. Well, I will say, like, we yeah, they're we give soccer a lot of crap for the theatrics, and rightfully so. They're always playing to the stuff that's happening and you know, rolling around, selling it. But the Argentina England game scrappy pretty physical, very scrappy. And in fact, I told Jay that on like that's one thing I've really noticed. This World Cup is uh you're getting a lot of these shots of them just scrapping, especially in the set pieces, right? Like the corners and the the free kicks. I mean, they are shh just full out shoving and trying to get away with it. It's and for for those who don't know, Argentina absolutely hates England. I'm gonna let everyone know that right now. And it was pretty apparent. They are not singing through their national anthem. Oh my word, yes, not fans of England, Inglaterra, as we call them. Um yeah, don't like them. And that that win was like that's what the is so special about the World Cup. If if we know the history of the countries, it makes it even more compelling watching the match because you can see the hatred. They they did not like them. And so to come back and win, I will point this out too some high-quality H2O in the part of a goalie, Pickford, the goalie for England, very good student of the game, and has on his water bottle all of the moves from all the players on Argentina, what they would do in a penalty shootout. And the video of watching the Argentina players reading it, and they're like, damn, good thing we didn't go to penalties. So it's so funny. I I saw that too. It's I love that he's just got it dialed in. Anytime he's taking a drink, it's like, all right, what are we doing? Just remember, yeah, hey, what do we got coming up here? So funny. So I I did love that, but no, incredible to see Argentina-Spain. I mean, I'm excited to see our our two countries that we'll dive into some of the the history here in just a minute, but I'm excited to see what happens uh this Sunday. Yeah, I cannot wait. And Benny, before we do our dive and preview of Argentina versus Spain for the World Cup, we do gotta talk a little bit of uh the golf, the open championship. Also in England. Also, well, in England, World Cup's here in America. That's right. England England out. Speaking of England, yeah. Listening to all the the commentary, the uh British announcers are in my head. But Benny, I got a question. I think the biggest thing to come out of today's round was Bryson, well, maybe not the biggest thing, but most controversial thing to come out of the round is Bryson De Chambeau. Already going into today, being criticized of having no strategy. He made sure to know, let the uh commentators know that he was really thinking about strategy, shooting with some good strategy, and uh really placing the ball with some good strategy. Um, so funny. But today I think on what hole I want to say hole five, but I don't think it's a hole five. It was hole five. It was a whole five. Um on hole five, Bryson has an errant drive that ends up in this rough, which I mean I worry about getting in rough that's like this tall, and it absolutely cripples me when I get in rough that tall. I mean, this rough is up to his chest. Like it is I mean, well out of really the playable area. The commentator is saying he's like, I don't know how he's gonna hit this. As he's positioning and setting up for his ball, he's high stepping, stepping on the grass, hits a good shot. I mean, he gets himself into position, saves par, if I remember right, and uh um despite having a really bad look. Yeah, I think I think he he got bogey. Did he get bogey on that? Yeah, I was gonna say, because I know he selled the cross, he hit it again with his f the ball laying below his feet. And then he ch he put it in from there, but it was actually his only blemish on the scorecard. Yeah, he played really clean today and had gained back a lot of a lot of space to be uh you know contending for the leaderboard. Um but come to find out he gets assessed a two penalty stroke. What do you think, Ben? Was the uh the stomping egregious in a pro improving his lay so that he could get that shot off? Yeah, I think you know, I think uh if you look at it objectively, yes, he he probably was doing it a little bit exaggeratingly um to to improve his potential shot um as much as possible. And you know, if I'm him, I'm frustrated because it seems like the whole golf world is against him right now, which which I don't love. I I like Bryson. I love Bryson. I'm a big Bryson fan. But it seems like all the purists, I should say all the golf purists are against him. I agree, which I mean the c again, the commentator beef, that was already a chip on his shoulder. Yeah, Nick Faldo, who has won the open. Um Nick Faldo is a major champion. Yeah, multiple time major champion. There's a lot of noise around, you know, Bryson kind of getting some flack. Part of me, to be honest with you, hopes he goes and wins the whole thing. I think that would be incredible. So then he would have a couple U.S. opens, then he has an open Claret Jug in his in his trophy case. But the rumor was, and I was trying to follow this as best I could. I I wasn't seeing it all live, but his agent said, We'll see if he plays the weekend. Like he was going to drop out because of it. Then he's like, I won't play tomorrow then. Which is weird to me. I hope not, because I mean he's putting extremely well, he's hitting the ball well. Like he posted on social media, he's like, This just fires me up. He's like, here we go. Chip on the shoulder, Bryson. And if he already didn't have the chip on the shoulder from Nick Faldo in the whole strategic situation, he's like, he doesn't play with any strategy. And he's come out here and he's five under par with a two-stroke penalty. So he would have been solo second, and right now he's tied for fifth. Still very much in the race. Yeah, very much there, especially if he keeps playing the way he's playing. And I mean, honestly, I don't know how, like you said, it might have been a little exaggerated. Honestly, I think the most egregious one was his step back in after he backed up. Like that seemed like he went out of his way to step on that grass. I think that's where he gets him. But otherwise, I mean, if you're in chest deep grass, there's no other way to walk through there. You're going to inadvertently improve your lie if you go through your normal shot routine of trying to line it up and everything else. But that I think that last step is probably where the judges are like, all right. We can for sure. Yeah, I I think that you know, and the RNA, they're just trying to, you know, make a point. Let's point out the rules, let's let's assess the penalty, and and I hope it really does fuel him. You know, I'm I'm looking at a few of the people that are at the leaderboard with you know some names that you really want to see do well. First of all, Sam Burns. Sam Burns has been so close in a lot of tournaments, and he's he is very capable, very close with Scotty Scheffler. And turn like their friends, they um they play very well. And so Sam Burns, seeing him at five under as well, tied for that fifth position with Bryson, would be super awesome. Cam Young, he won a major this year. He won the players, too. Yeah, he won the players, I should say. Uh, and travelers. Or he won travel. Yeah, he's won a couple of them. Yeah, he's having good, he's having good. Cam Young, Cam Young's having a great year. He's had a rough go of it, so to see him bounce back in a major has been pretty awesome. So love seeing the Americans up towards the top. Is Scotty up in there? I actually haven't picked at this. Scotty is tied for eighth. He's four under. So Scotty's playing good. Let's see, especially having missed the cut last week. I'm sure he's really, really trying to make sure he's in there. I mean, true champion. You've got John Rahm at four under, you've got you know, Ludwig Oberg at three under, Shane Lowry, former open champion at three under. Um, you know, there's a lot of players that are in the mix here. Colin Morikawa at two under, and I believe he has won the he's won the PGA championship. Rory McElroy's at one under, so he's still in it. I think anything can happen. There's been some good scoring opportunities. Um, but Bryson DeChambeaux is the story of the weekend. So we'll see if he can continue to shine through or if someone else is gonna take his man. I hope so. Bryson, I feel like is great for golf. He's he's really fun to watch. I feel like he takes exciting shots. He's got the YouTube career going for him, so he's he's connecting with the people, you know? Yeah, a hundred percent. So and I think the the the other aspect of it, so when Pat McAfee was talking about Bryson, he was like, hey, one of the best golfers in the world is just gonna be completely transparent and open about how he plays golf, and I get to watch it. That's great. I love that.

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Like I think I think that's only good for the game. So 100%. I'm happy that he's doing it. And yeah, it's yeah, it's pretty I'm watching it back right now. It's pretty egregious. That last step is really bad. Like he's so he steps back behind, he's got the club, and then he really steps back and really goes out of his way to stomp down that that main brush that's given to give himself a backswing. And it's like, yeah, that one that one's gonna be a bit too much. Yeah. It looks like he's gov gone and given himself a little bit too good of a lie. It looks like he gave himself a little bit too good of a lie there. Can't be stomping around the golf ball before you hit it. What are we doing just stomping around the yard? Scotland Yard here. Isn't that what they call it? Uh Scotland Yard is the prison. Yeah. Yeah, see. All right. Well, they they're basically treating him like he should be in prison. That's how they're treating Bradford. That's not the goal. Speaking of golf purists, they they are doing that. It's funny listening to the commentator today. He's like, it was I can't remember who was hitting off the tee, but it's like, I mean, it's it's so incredible. I remember when I saw my first pro golfer hit off a tee, and I'm just glad to see not everybody's on their phones there. You really gotta just see it with your eyes. So I'm glad to see not everybody's got their phones out and documenting, just watch it, enjoy the moment. It's just he was just so passionate about like put your phones away, please. Yeah, there are some passionate people out there, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm excited to see what Bryson does. Yeah, and the other aspect of the open that I wanted to highlight that is a little bit of a also high-quality H2O moment. There has been a total of seven um rounds of sixty-two in major history. Okay. Okay. Seven rounds of sixty-two in majors history. Yes. And that and two of the six people, because someone has done it twice, and that's Xander Shoffley. Two of the people were today. Sam Burns shot a 62, and Lucas Herbert, who plays on Live, had a sh had a putt, a three-foot putt for 61. He would have shot the lowest round ever. Man. Misses it just barely, but he ties the he ties it, has a fantastic round. The only blemishes that bogey had on 18. Um, but super awesome. I was talking with someone about it today. Some people were like, I like to see majors where the winner is like 10 under. You know, I like to see like not super low scoring. I like to see I like to see people go low. Like, I like to see the scoring, but it has a little bit of that difficulty. They're so good, Ben. They are so incredibly good. It's unbelievable. That's that's what just kept running through my head today. Just watching what they have to manage, the bunkers they have to manage, the the rough they have to manage. Those bunkers are crazy. I mean, it is insane. Like, I was really I mean, me, my very, very amateur, not good at golf at all. I watched Bryson hit into the rough, and I was like, oh, I'm glad Bryson does it sometimes, you know. Oh, but I think they still often yeah, because he takes risks and tries to cut corners, you know. But it's like his his round to get that bogey, and it's like, hey, I play golf like that, but obviously I would not survive on tour conditioned courses, not even close. They're just so good. They still can capitalize and hit these crazy shots. It's it's really impressive. And this is different golf than what all of the Americans are used to. Lynx golf is different, and you know, they're they're playing very impressive. So to give you the list of the players and when they shot a 62. So we have Sam Burns today, round two, Lucas Herbert today, Shane Lowry, 2024 PGA Championship, round three. Um, and then he also carded a nine under 62 at Valhalla during the third round. Basander Shoffley, he shot in the 2024 same PGA Championship, round one, shot a nine under. He also shot a 2023 U.S. Open 8 under 62 at Los Angeles Country Club, which actually that U.S. Open was won by Wyndham Clark, I believe. Brandon Grace, 2017 Open Championship round three, shot an eight under 62 at Royal Burkedell. The same course they're playing right now. That's awesome. So he was the first player to break 63 in a men's major championship. And now look at all these guys that have done over the past few years. It's impressed up. Xander is not playing that same kind of golf um that he was. He had a two-year stretch, so it was pretty incredible. It's it's just crazy too. Speaking of that, Ben, just like seeing the pace at which now they're breaking that that mark. I mean, you have I can't tell you how many highlights I've seen on TikTok and stuff where um they're driving the green at 300 something yards. Like, consistently driving the green. It's like that's they're just they're so good. They're so incredibly good. Sorry, I felt like I looked like a ghost. For those of you who are watching, the lights went out. I was getting, yeah, it was too dark. Um turn on the light. But yeah, I I agree with you. It's it's absolutely nuts the way these guys are able to play golf. Um, and I only hope to ever play just decent. Just I'll take like a some par golf. I'll take a tenth of how they're playing it. I mean, yeah, if I'll take a fifteenth, a twentieth. I'll take a little just a little bit, just a little bit. Just help me be a little bit better ball striker. That's all I just help me break fifty, you know. I'm just trying to get they're breaking 62 or getting 62 on 18. I'm just trying to get under 50 on nine. Can we do that? Yeah, imagine can we just get there? Imagine, yeah, like okay, you shoot a 53 today, right? And nine more strokes, and that's what they shoot on eighteen. That's basically them getting, you know, a hole in one on almost every hole. If if they had your score, and like that's how we play. That's where we're at. That is crazy to me. It is nuts. Um how how good the scoring is by them. So yeah, love the open. I'm excited to I might stay up a little bit tonight. I might see if I can catch some uh some open early in the morning. Let's Yeah, man. Let's watch some golf, some live golf. I love it. It's so it's it's really fun to watch them just smoke the ball. Like it might feel like drink some tea. It's not one where I can watch it and be like, oh, I'm gonna try that. Like it that's not what golf viewership can be. Like you might see something in a basketball game or a football game. It's like, oh, I'm gonna try that. And I feel like that translates a little better. For me at my level of golf, I can't watch them hit and be like, oh, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna like I can maybe see like what's their tempo? What does this look like? It's like, no, I I'm gonna keep it nice and slow and simple because these guys are animals. Yeah. There are uh a couple of players that I want to try and emulate their swings. Jake Knapp has a beautiful swing, and so does Adam Scott. That's what Adam Scott's known for on the tour. He's been you know a pro for years and years and years, and he has a beautiful swing. So trying to emulate the guys that are kind of like the Klay Thompsons in basketball. Because Clay Thompson, if you ask Steph Curry, is like if you want to learn how to shoot, watch Clay's jump shot. Like that's that's what you want to do. Technique, you gotta see good, perfect, executed technique. Same thing with like a Ray Allen, right? Ray Allen was like it's technique, it's fundamentals. And so who are those kind of guys that you're trying to follow? Um, but yeah, it definitely doesn't translate for no, it's so hard. It's so hard for me to like see it and be like, okay, I'm gonna go do that. Like, I just gotta like that's it's crazy. Golf is fun. We love golf. Shout out golf. We do love golf, and uh but there is one thing I love more, and that's watching Lionel Messi tear it up on the pitch. We're diving into it. Argentina It's time to talk World Cup Argentina Espana. Benny, I got some some tales of the pitch, I guess you could say. Some history. Some Yeah, hit me with the with the history of these two. So Argentina and Spain have only met one other time in the FIFA World Cup, and the victor of that matchup was Argentina in 1966. So it has been a long time since these guys have met. And uh however, in international play, Spain has a slight edge, having won six. Argentina has five wins, and uh they have three draws of their total 14 matchups, which it really surprised me. I thought that there would be a lot more history, but there's just there's not because I mean you're thinking every four years for the FIFA World Cup, and uh do you or don't you qualify, and then obviously some other tournaments in play throughout the year. Um or like Olympics. Uh yeah, just not not playing against them. Not a ton uh ton of matchups, and uh despite uh what you might think, Spain has not been uh dis I mean it even though they have one of the most competitive uh pro leagues in the entire world with a Liga and the best of the best, and your very own Leonel Messi played in Spain for a long time, they have not been to that championship very very long. But to get here, they dominate France to advance, they they shut down the best striking team in uh in the entire tournament. Uh yeah. They're led by their superstar. You've said his name a couple times, Lamin Yamal. Lamine Yamal. He is kind of a second coming of Messi, but hasn't quite got to that level. But he plays for Barca. The reason why I say that, he plays for Barca. He's 19, young dude, one of the youngest to be like at this level at this stage. Um well, and have you seen the picture of Messi giving Lamar giving him a bath? A bath 19 years ago? Crazy. Like it's it's it's pretty insane. Pretty wild. Yeah, pretty wild. And and it was, I don't know exactly the story about it, but it's basically a what it was like a ceremonial bath or something. Like Yeah, I think they won it in like a charity thing or something. I don't know. Oh, really? I don't think something like that. They're they're like the Amal family won it as a charity thing, I guess. I I don't know. Kind of weird. But very cool. Obviously, some something rubbed off on uh uh baby Amal when that happened because he's he is Spain's kind of superstar out there, despite only having one goal, he's kind of one of the the main forces for kind of strategy and play, has some great passing, very efficient, 86%. Um has some great crossing capability, like we saw Messi exhibit, where he's spreading out that back line of the defense. Um but we also got a shout out lead scorer Or Yazabal with five in the tourney so far. So we're we're excited to see him light up against Argentina, hopefully. Is that how you you would pronounce that last name? Oyarzabal. I don't know. Oyarzabal. That's my that's what I thought. That's what I thought. Unless he is true Spaniard, then it'd be Oyarzabal. Yeah, yeah. Oyarzabal. Yeah. Makes sense. But I should know. I don't know, but I I would guess that that's how you say it. Yeah, there's uh oh, this is gonna be fun. I'm just I want to point out as well, so in terms of facts, right? So we're looking at you know the match statistics over time.

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We also have the kings of South America against the kings of Europe.

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So Argentina won the Copa America, and then uh Spain won the Euro, whatever the Euro Cup or whatever. Hey, yeah, that's a good fact. They won it last year. That's a great fact. And I think if I heard Thierry Henri correctly, he said that Argentina would be the first country to win back to back to back major tournaments. So World Cup, Copa America, Copa, World Cup, World Cup. Which, I mean, that's something that I really want to highlight. Like I just said, Spain has only been one other time to the championship, beat the Netherlands in 2010. Only other time in the final, the only other time. They went and they won. 2010. They had South Africa. They, yep. They have not had for Africa. Um Shakira crushing Shakira, right? Yeah, I think she sang every World Cup song since ever. Crushing it. That takes me back to or have you heard the yeah, have you heard the other World Cup song?

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Do the school canoe?

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No, I haven't. It's a good one. It's German, and I think it says like you are enough or something. Okay. It's it's great. Yeah, it's a great World Cup song. I love it. Germany coming out. But Argentina on the flip side has been dominant at the world stage. In World Cup appearances, they have gone seven times, including this one, and have won three championships. So three and three right now. Three and three right now, a chance to improve to four and three, but like you just said, chance to go back to back of the World Cup four years. It's not just like NBA finals or a Super Bowl team going back to back in consecutive years. This is sustained success over four-year periods, which is crazy. I'm like getting nervous right now, just thinking about crazy. So and I want to point out, Ben, you should be nervous because you to get here have come back in basically every single game from the dead. Every every stat was like, no, you are not gonna be back in this game. You did it against Egypt, you did it, you had a scare against Cape Verde, you did it uh against England just barely to advance. I mean, every single match. Hey, winners win. Champions know how to make it happen. They've been. And Argentina does. Argentina does. That is 100% true. Is is FIFA maybe on our side? Maybe. Do they want Messi in there just because he is the GOAT? Probably. Probably. I will say, this is actually this is haunting me because I'm going back to our GOAT draft. The fact that we did not draft Messi. We didn't draft, but we didn't, we did an addendum. We did a late entry. We did do an addendum. I will say this though. That was agreed. That was an egregious uh that was bad. That was an egregious omission. Yeah. Right right now, it would have to take Oyard's the ball, basically scoring two goals, or you know, maybe three goals or getting two goals and an assist to beat to beat Messi in the golden boot. Right now, Messi is one in golden boot. Well, Benny, go through his stats. What is uh in the tournament where's Messi? He's had uh an incredible he's incredible at 39 years old. What has he done? Yeah, at 39 years old, he has eight goals and four assists. So in the golden boot race, he is first and Bappe is second with eight goals and three assists. And I love this so much because it explains everything about how this guy plays. Erling Holland is third, seven goals, zero assists, zero assists. Yeah, that is that is so true. All he does is waiting, he's waiting for the assist. He's just in the box waiting to make his mark. That's incredible. And and the poor Englishman, Jude Baylor. Millingham and Harry Kane, both six goals each and one assist, but Messi stands above them all. It's it's quite impressive. So if he gets an assist, if he gets a goal, golden boots his. It's it's ranking up. Now, this is the question. If he wins a back-to-back World Cup in his mid-30s and then late 30s, near 40, he turned 39 during this World Cup. Where does he rank among the greatest across sports? The MJs, the Tom Brady's, uh, the Serena Williams type, like Tiger Woods. Is he the best? Like, is he now? He's a Mount Rushmore athlete of all time. 100%. He is incredible at what he does. He's so efficient. He has so much impact on the game. And at 39, I thought this stat was interesting. At 39, he's he's had just as many def as much defensive impact. At least, I mean, this is what's I was reading about from folks smarter than me. Just as much defensive impact as Lamine at 19.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. At 39. Like he's he's just been unbelievable, Ben. You know what was wild to me is just watching him in that match. And like, yeah, I'm a soccer novice. Like, let's be honest. I I yeah, like I I I love it. I know I know players. Played until I was 10. I know a little something. But yeah, we got I know some of the details, not anything too crazy. I know where to put the shin guards. Yeah, exactly. Hey, we know how to lace them up, lace up them boots, you know, as they say. But it was incredible to watch him strategically where he was standing on the pitch at different times. He's aware of everybody. And when England was like condensing, he would get out a little bit wider, he would come back a little bit more, and then he would go to the left side, then he came back over to the right side. Like he was all over the place. He noticed, like, okay, I can and all of his crosses have an opportunity. No, they're right there. That's what's so crazy to me. He's in the pocket every time he puts a boot. And honestly, he had some really good shots multiple times that his teammates, I feel like, just kind of didn't take advantage of. Like they used to get in the pocket. A couple hit hit posts. I mean, they were close. Like, we need we need somebody to just get in there, you know? Uh sometimes when I was watching it there, too. I'm like, how do they get an opportunity to kick the ball in the net? I I'm like perplexed. I'm like, I don't know how you bodies they have, and especially when everybody's kind of collapsed in, and it's not like a counter where it's three versus two or something like that. Yeah. It's a lot, it's a lot of legs that you're trying to do. It's wild. A lot of bodies that you're trying to navigate. So I I will say I I I do think that uh I mean I've watched Spain play a little bit, you know, throughout this World Cup. I mean, this is gonna be the matchup of of the century. This is this is gonna be tough. I hope that I don't know if you've been seeing the weather up in the Netherlands, in the um northeast, but in the Meadowlands is what I was gonna say. I mixed New York, New Jersey, Meadowlands. I was gonna say Netherlands, not the Netherlands, not the Netherlands, yeah. But coming from all the Canadian fires, the the air quality is very bad air quality. Yeah, I didn't think about that. They're saying they're gonna play, but I'm like, it does not look good up in New York, New Jersey area. To run 90 plus minutes and smoke. And it they basically are saying, like, hey, it's the equivalent of like smoking like 10 cigarettes. Like, you should not go outside. Like it is detrimental to your health. Um and so soccer, that's pretty, it's pretty much all you're doing is running. You need those lungs, so yeah, and just uh gonna be hacking up constantly running like that with smoke. But that's interesting. That'll be a little bit of a ripple bin. Yeah, and I'm assuming that you're you think Spain will win. Yeah, no, I despite Argentina's uncanny ability to find a way, the defensive performance that they just put out against France gave me all the confidence in the world that Spain can get this done. Well, all you need to know is this, is all you need to know. Is this that's it? That's all you need to see. And I'm I'm gonna tell you, Emiliano Martinez, he's gonna be doing one of these again in the goal. I know it. I so the question is so we know you're gonna go for Spain. We know I'm going for Argentina. Yep. What do you think the final score is? Does it end in regular time? Do they end in extra time? Penalties, what's the score? I'm gonna go 2-1 Spain extra time. And I think Lamin gets his number two goal on the tourney. So you think he wins it? Do you think he's gonna win it with the goal in extra time? Yeah. That's gonna be my pick. Oh, I bet you the Argentine player's gonna be all up on that 19-year-old. Oh, letting you know right now. Oh, I know. Hey, I know you're gonna be seeing when they sub in Otamendi, Lynn Lamin Yamal doesn't stand a chance. Otamendi's gonna be on his butt. I'm telling you. Those guys, they know what they're doing. Yeah, but after after a hundred cigarettes, there might be some different feelings about that. Yeah, that's true. I will say Lamin has been playing a little injured. He's his minutes are a little bit managed in that regard, but I'm I'm hoping Well, he said before the tournament he could play 90 minutes. Yeah. So they they have been managing his hamstring. Sounds like he's good to go for obviously the final. So But guess what? 39-year-old Messi doesn't get subbed out. No, no minutes managed for Messi. That man just he walks around, saves his energy, and then he psss bursts. He fingers it out. What do you think, Benny? What's your score pick?

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Oh man, this is gonna be tough.

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I think for for all love, I do not want to go to penalties again. That was nerve-wracking as I'll get out. Last World Cup seeing France and Argentina go into penalties. I do think it will go extra. I oh man, I'm struggling if I want it to be the same but just the opposite. I just am feeling like it might be tough to get it in the goal. I've been hearing the under is the popular pick. And uh Simone has not allowed. He doesn't allow goals. I mean, he just he's been unbelievable in the tournament. I'm gonna look up something real quick because I want to see what the spread is.

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Um because I'm curious because I'm What is it?

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Okay, so Spain is uh half a goal favorite. The overunder is set at two and a half. Okay. Okay, they're thinking it'll be like uh basically one zero if the game just goes in normal time.

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Yeah. Potentially. I think I'm actually gonna go over. I'm gonna go two one, but for for Argentina.

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Does Messi get a goal or is he just saving the day with his unbelievable boot? He'll get a goal. You wanna know why? Because Spain is gonna foul them in the penalty and Messi will score a penalty kick. The FIFA referees are just going to give it. They won't have uh any other recourse but to foul, you think? You're gonna get well. Get in trouble in the box. Okay. Yes. I think Argentina is gonna try and sell that at some point in the game. They will be given a penalty kick. That would be Messi's goal. I like that pick. A penalty kick from Messi. So that's yeah, and then you're picking a Yameen Lamal goal. It doesn't necessarily have to be the winner, but you're picking he will score. I'm picking a goal for Lamin. Yeah. Okay, so goal for Lamin, I've got penalty kick for Messi. Okay. Okay, I like it. There we go. I like it, I like it. I'm nervous. It's gonna be fun. Yeah, I'm way excited. Excited for the watch party, excited to hang out and just be losing our minds as we enjoy that game. It'll be really fun. Yeah, it's it's gonna be cinema. I am pumped about it. The golden boot, I mean, just everything. It's gonna be sweet. But Benny, we are at 53 minutes. So I'd like to propose the following. I say we give a little teaser where we pick our over-under for the Ute's wins, and then next episode we go game by game and do a schedule preview. What do you say? Love it. Let's do it. Okay. Alright, on you, I mean, this is our thing, so you go ahead. Yeah, so let me let me point this out real quick. So the um, I believe Vegas has them right now um at eight and a half as the over-under for wins and losses. Let me confirm. Um wins and losses 2026. Let's just see. What does Vegas say? Okay. Eight and a half wins. Yep, that's correct. Okay. And Utah has plus 700 odds to win the conference. So obviously they are talking about it as a two-horse race. Texas Tech, BYU. BYU. Yep. Then you've got the echelon below that, which is Utah. They're saying Houston is in there. They're saying um, you know, I guess you can throw in like maybe Arizona right below that, TCU potentially. Those are kind of the teams. Um, Oklahoma State, they're saying he's gonna have a resurgence and kind of is up there, and I'm like with Drew Mestemaker. Interesting. Okay. So with that being said, Utah would have to lose three games to be the over, and so be nine and three. Um, we'll do a scheduled preview, but as a teaser, I'm hammering that over. I'm hitting the over. Yeah, 100%. I think it's set that way because I mean, they did lose some pieces. They got more a brand new coach, but it's Morgan Scally. Yeah. Have you listened to this guy talk? Yeah, here's the thing that that I don't love. What I don't love is, you know, everything has been centered around the coaching change. You know, how are they gonna make it happen? It's like, yes, I agree. Kyle Whittingham was the epitome of consistency, and he's fantastic. I love Kyle. Go blue for the Big Ten. Yeah, go do something good. Go, Kyle, go. Like, I'm very excited for him. But how come nobody's saying, like, yes, it is Morgan Scaly's first head coaching job, but he's been in the program for over two decades. And was instrumental in that defense, right? Like a big part of the character of Utah and the reasons why they won games was Morgan Scally. And look at all the players that did stay that did end up staying on the roster, like the minis of the world. We have a lot of return, and we got the firepower in the backfield with Bird Ficklin and uh Dampier coming. In it, Dampier might be, you know, one of the first QBs since Alex Smith to you know get drafted and and be kind of a a guy that goes with a little more attention, a little more love. Um he's exciting to watch. I'm glad he stuck around for another year. But yeah, I think there's a little disrespect on Utah. I feel like in Big 12 world, as you listen to people talk, I feel like he's their youths are getting more love than that, than what that over-under line um kind of hints at. So I'm I mean, I'm feeling uh nine wins for sure, but I mean I'm feeling pretty good about ten, Ben. Yeah, me too. I'm I'm leaning more towards the ten range as well, which is a lot of what I'm hearing from people. So I think eight and a half is a little bit. I feel like that's I guess, yeah, I guess they're you know, they're they're betting on you know potential down. I I the offensive line scares me. O-line is a question mark, but I think one thing that made me feel a lot better about that front is yes, they are new as a configuration, but not all of them are brand new. Like these these are guys who are in the building, in the room with the best O-line in college football last year. Like they it's not like they don't know what's going on. So yeah. And so what we should do next episode is schedule preview. So we'll go game by game, but we also should do a little bit of like a roster preview. And yeah, let's let's look at who we've got. We'll we'll pinpoint the obvious like there's the obvious players. We mentioned a few of them that are gonna be impact players, but we gotta identify the players that will be the reason why they go above nine wins. Um and so we'll the X factors, as it were, you know. So we'll we'll highlight that. I think that will be, and hopefully by our next episode, LeBron has a team as well. I'll be excited about it. We can talk about that again. And I know we teased last time that we were gonna talk Utah football this time, but this time we really mean it. We had to give the World Cup its day in the sun. We'll be on football here real soon. If people know us, they know how much this final really does mean. You you played soccer in the streets of Spain. Um did not because it was uh contra las reglas. Boo So I mean did I kick a did I kick a ball to to some guys? Did I play in Madrid? Yes, I did play in Madrid. I did not play ever when I was in like Barcelona, but I played in Madrid. Yeah, see, see, and I have played in the streets of multiple cities of Argentina. I have put my blood, sweat, and tears into the dirt of Argentina. I actually took I took a soccer ball square to the face in Madrid from uh Jessica Nokes, which I shouldn't probably say her name, but she played for Salt Community College, I think, and she clocked me pretty good with the soccer ball when we were playing one time. That's so that's hilarious. Yeah, she she had a boot for sure. That's funny. Well, I uh yeah, I'm very excited. I am going to potentially you might see me in a new like Messi or Argentina. Oh, yeah, you might see you in a little bit of swag. I was just saying it's like I'll wear I'll wear the cream and and red to kind of bring the essence of that Spain kit that looks so clean as they dismantle France. It it doesn't. I'll be honest with you. I think the Spain colors are just hideous. I think their jerseys are gross. To that take. I'm I I mean I've been a huge fan of other countries. I think like England's clean, I think um Norway's cool, Argentina's Spain. I like Spain's against Argentina's is always good looking that dark blue against uh England and that's what they wore to beat them the last time. So cool. So cool. Oh, I love it. Hey, that does that was a great episode, Benny. What an absolute blast. A little golf, um mon tom de football, and uh some some just exciting times ahead with Utah football coming around the corner. So, like always, dude, I love ya. We love the people who are listening. Um please uh share, subscribe, give us a review if you don't mind. If you actually listen to this point in the podcast, we'd appreciate it. And better what do we tell the people, dude? Hey, stay hydrated, everybody. Stay hydrated with the fresh audios.