Interview with Mike Paterson - June 25, 2026

CONTACT TV is thrilled to welcome back to the programme, MIKE PATERSON - renowned Director/Founder of SASQUATCH ONTARIO (www.sasquatchontario.com), SASQUATCH researcher and author of the compelling new book, INVISIBLE GIANT (Amazon.com/Amazon.ca). 

In this interview, Mike shares his most current observations about Sasquatch, including his most recent research into their inter/ultra dimensional nature.  

Mike also shares a number of fascinating and profound past and current interactions with a specific family of Ontario Sasquatch with whom he has been interacting for more than twenty-five years.  

Not to be missed!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:36

We are not alone. You are watching Contact TV with your host, Leslie Mitchell Clark, exploring upology, metaphysics, and beyond with the world's foremost experts. Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode of Contact TV. Now in our 14th year, I can hardly believe it. My God, I have shoes that are that old. Anyway, uh I am so pleased that you're here. I am, as always, Leslie Mitchell Clark, and we are welcoming back to the program not only one of my very favorite guests, but uh a great friend of Contact TV. Uh, we're welcoming Mike Patterson. And Mike, if you have not heard of him already, he is an exceptional researcher into Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, whatever. Uh, and we'll discuss the differences, if there are any between those beings. But uh it's my great honor to welcome back to the program Mike Patterson, and we'll be discussing his new book and uh other wonderful extreme strangeness. Mike, welcome back to the program. It's so wonderful to see you. You're looking great as always, and uh I know there have been all kinds of new adventures and insights during the time that we haven't been in touch. And um, but just for a moment, in case some of our uh subscribers or viewers are not familiar with you, how long have you been conducting your research into Bigfoot? And was there a single event that triggered this at any time in your life?

SPEAKER_07 2:23

Um thanks, first of all, for having me back on here, Leslie. And it's now I'm in my 18th year, so you know, close to two decades of doing this. Um it was back in 2008 when uh it was it was basically 2007 when I took an interest, but 2008, October 25th, was the moment that really you know put me on this journey, and and I had a close vocal encounter that showed me their existence. That you don't have to actually see them to know it's them, when it's as powerful as an experience that was given to me with these giant guttural whoops that um were very close and uh just it changed my life instantly, right? So put me on this journey, and and now 18 years later, and since 2012, I was invited into uh a situation to investigate a property up in the Corta Lakes region, and um we've been documenting there ever since, myself and the property owner. Um, so uh you know, the last I think we're about 14 years roughly now. And and that's been uh ongoing um with activity on 100% of the visits since day one.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Oh my goodness, that is amazing. And what I also found, well, also heartwarming for one thing, is that this isn't just a randomized uh really uh communication with whatever uh Sasquatch is passing through. You have really um become gotten to know and become almost a part of an actual family or clan. Um and uh would you like to tell us a a little bit about that and and how that kind of happened? How did they become personally involved with you?

SPEAKER_07 4:54

When you first I think most people when they first start in this, they're putting up trail cams, banging on trees. Everybody tends to have that that approach until you start to see firsthand that you're dealing with uh something that is quite intelligent and likes to toy with us, and you know it's something that their approach is it's a baby step approach, basically. You know, they don't throw everything at you all at once, although they may test you to see what you're made of, see if you're you know up to uh continuing uh ongoing interactions. Um so when I went in, I at first I didn't know what I was dealing with, but uh I think at this point um it was four years plus maybe um before I was given that situation. And to me at this point, it seems like I was being trained those previous four years to get some experience before going into to what I'm involved in now, which is uh, you know, basically developing a relationship with the family of them, right? And what I have learned since it's uh is absolutely astounding. It has shown me another layer of reality that is 100% there. You know, I bet the farm in a second that we're dealing with uh an ancient human type uh species that uh has a greater understanding, um definitely much greater than uh the collective human consciousness. They have a such an understanding of human consciousness and and energies that has allowed them to remain hidden by choice from us for their own safety, basically, right?

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Aaron Ross Powell, Jr. Well, indeed, that's true. And you know, I think it's uh I I think it's also interesting. I remember one of the other times that you have been in the program, I think I asked the question about the evolution of of the Sasquatch or if they had been brought here or transported here by another alien intelligence, and I think that they answered, always been here. Always been here.

SPEAKER_07 7:11

Yeah, um it's uh it started off with uh some questions um you know, uh trying to find out the origin of humans. And and I had asked them, you know, who created humans, and they didn't respond to that. And this is um through developed written communication. You know, we have a certain way we uh uh uh interactions happen, you know, on location. Things are developed to a point where you know there's there's written communication going on, all gifting is done indoors at this point, you know, that sort of thing. But um I had asked them who created humans, they didn't respond. So I changed my question to did the Anunnaki create humans? And they said yes. And then I asked, um, do we have the same creator? You know, as they do, and they said no. And while I've not been able to get um the answer to, you know, their uh progenitor, I guess if you call it that, or their creator. Um I did ask where their people come from, where do you come from, and they they wrote home here always.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I see. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_07 8:23

And that they're also here before us, before uh before humans. Whether that's all humans, I don't know. Homo sapiens, um, and whatever, you know, lineage before that, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

But Dennis Sovens or whatever was here. Um Well, that's that's very interesting. Do you think that we do you think that we share any DNA with them?

SPEAKER_07 8:45

Yes. Uh not necessarily all of us. Um, and I say that because I've asked uh uh personal things about myself, and um I don't have their DNA, but some humans do.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Aaron Ross Powell Some humans do. So there has been some tinkering or some type of evolution uh that occurred. I know there is an Anunnaki story about um uh I think it's Enki and his close friend, who unfortunately passed because he was physical. Uh but uh every description that I have read from the Sumerian translations, it points to a being like the Sasquatch or or or Bigfoot. And so I'm wondering if they were in some kind of collaboration. Uh Inky Doo was the name of the being, by the way. Um I I'm very fascinated as you were about our origins. And um and also and I'd love to talk about this a bit because I wonder if the uh Sasquatch experience and all of this sensitivity that you have to them. Have you also experienced any types of uncount encounters with with other um I will call them elemental beings?

SPEAKER_07 10:17

There's uh you know, like the the whole thing with the Fey and Um there was an experience that happened to me, I think I was about 17 years old, and I thought it was a dragonfly. And it uh I saw this thing from far away, and I don't know, I connected with it. It ended up flying and landing right on the end of my nose, and I kind of freaked out, right? And um, and I was telling this story to uh to Duane, you know, one night this past winter while we were sitting at the table, and and suddenly uh there was a telepathic message given, and and it was said that that was that was one of the fae, that was not a dragonfly. And I remember it was huge too. Yeah, I kind of freaked out with this.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Oh, I've seen them, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:06

You know, I thought it was a dragonfly, but but a really big one, and you know, I I just kind of freaked out a bit because it landed on the end of my nose and tried to swat it away. But uh wow. Yeah, so there was uh that information that came through when we were um in the having a discussion about that.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

So there is quite a bit of uh telepathic communication going on, which is which is common with evolved species, I understand. And say if, well, Neff, let's talk about Neff. He he is your maybe your primary contact with this family that you that you know now.

SPEAKER_07 11:46

He's been the main character, basically, yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Main character for a long time. When you hear his voice in in your head, does it sound like a the voice of a living person?

SPEAKER_07 11:59

Sound just like Neff.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

It's like Neff.

SPEAKER_07 12:01

His voice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

He he completely is able to transmit his voice the way it sounds, the way it expresses telepathically.

SPEAKER_07 12:09

Yeah, I I remember um a friend of mine, Sonia, who, you know, she passed uh years back, and um I had taken her into the location and we were in this cottage. This was back in 2015, um, and at one point Neff uh vocalized my name, you know, telepathically to her. And she thought I played like an audio file or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Oh wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 12:32

And I just laughed. I said, no, I didn't, you know, that they were there.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

They were there, they were there. Now this ability to do all these very esoteric things, you know, tel telepathy and um the way that they can either appear uh uh physically so we can see them, or not, uh would you classify them as um interdimensional beings or ultra-dimensional?

SPEAKER_07 13:02

Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. Th there are no walls with them. Um so when we're on location, uh the activities indoors and outdoors, they're with us the the whole time, right? Um sometimes the activities happened inside my vehicle. Um that's uh that's happened on numerous occasions, and one of them um I just uh put out a recent video showing some uh dash cam footage when uh we were up on location and Dwayne and I went for a little drive down the back roads and we're having a chat and uh suddenly there's this uh you know funny little vocal in the car, and uh you know, some seconds pass, and I I said to Duane, I go, Did you just make this sound? And I did the sound. And he and he laughs, he goes, No, I thought that was you. I said, No, it wasn't me, that wasn't me. And it's like, well, we have company, and that is it's common. You know, we'll we'll go for a drive and sometimes we'll get out and things happen right around us, right? Showing that we have their presence with us. So especially when we're on location, they're they're on us the whole time. They're there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah, they're they're omnipresent, as it were. And uh before we started recording, I I was just mentioning to you that uh, as you know, I do a lot of work with experiencers, and um what I find interesting now is there seems to be quite a bit of evidence pointing to um a relationship between the Sasquatch and other ultraterrestrial beings, particularly in the ET category. There have been experiencers who have seen uh uh Sasquatch going up in a tractor beam. Um there are um incidents where experiencers have seen Sasquatch acting as members of a mixed E.T crew doing some kind of tasking. So these are highly intelligent beings. These are not apes or or anything, it's not gigantic gigantic. No. Absolutely not. And the people that state that are not getting even a part of the picture, in my opinion. They're just they've got their blinders on, they're committed to this uh now past a belief, I would have to say. You know, I don't think that the Sasquatch is at is a missing link per se, but they may be the um the most evolved bipedal being on the planet currently.

SPEAKER_07 15:47

Yeah, from my experience there are no secrets with them. Um so they would be labeled a threat to national security because the bad guys can't hide anything from them. So I've you know I get into controversial questions sometimes with them. You know, I'm a I'm a conspiracy guy, and so far they've all come true, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah. Um The strangest things that you could never have imagined have come have come through, like an international network of pedophilia propelling billionaires and therefore propelling governments. It's all out there. It's fact, it's obvious, and and who could have ever believed that?

SPEAKER_07 16:26

And and what's you know, I think mixed in with that, you know, I don't want to get too controversial with that.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Get as controversial as you want.

SPEAKER_07 16:34

But yeah, the whole reptilian uh thing too, right? Because, you know, I've I've seen enough on videos uh where you know stills are captured, you know, a blink of an eye or you know, the flick of a tongue or you know, something going on in their neck. Uh you know, it's like that's not human.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

You think this it's possible that there could be, like in the television show V so many years ago, that there could be reptilian beings that are in some type of metamorphic disguise?

SPEAKER_07 17:05

Yeah, uh human disguise that are um and they're they're in the media, they're on in political, uh, you know, on political platforms. Um they, you know, we have non-human intelligence walking among us and not necessarily just reptilians, right? Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Oh, there's a huge if if what I if I am to believe my clients, and I do, there is a huge variety of ET presence and elemental presence on on this is a I think maybe one of the things that makes our earth uh so unique is that we do have so many uh stratuses, strata or layers of existence going on simultaneously.

SPEAKER_07 17:54

Um I just we we seem to be the last ones to find out everything.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Yeah, we're the last ones. We're duh we're walking around just, you know. Well, we're we're in our little meat suits in in the third density. We're on a narrow bandwidth, essentially, compared to everybody else.

SPEAKER_07 18:11

Aaron Powell Manipulated to believe a certain narrative. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Of course. Uh even even, you know, the God spell, if you wish to call it that, the the the belief in an anthropomorphic kind of god is not natural to us. It comes from uh the Anunnaki presenting themselves that way. It's not really an uh we we can celebrate the creative nature, the great creative spirit, or whatever you want to say, but uh that kind of anthropomorphic thing that I think the the the uh right wing, the Christian right believes is is a it's a fantasy.

SPEAKER_07 18:51

I I have had my own experience showing me there is a uh all knowing, um unconditional, loving greater um whatever anybody wants to call that. And I was given an experience back when I was, I think it was about 30. And it lasted about a week. I woke up from a series of three dreams, and the third dream um I had I I was washed with this pure unconditional love. And and I could tell it was from uh, you know, uh I think that uh a dark presence could uh uh apparently also give that, but the way I could tell that it was not of any dark presence. First it was, you know, that just that pure feeling of unconditional love, but the way it was taken away from me, so it lasts about a week and it slow I could feel it slowly tapering off, you know, just kind of letting go. It it wasn't like uh give it to you and then take it away like that and leave you feeling empty, it just slowly, you know, let go and and it was about yeah, about seven days it lasted.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Well that sounds like a gentle and beautiful kind of thing. And I I I accept that. You know, it's beyond our comprehension right now.

SPEAKER_07 20:17

But yeah, I don't know what that was.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

I don't know that, but um do you think this is an odd question, but uh do you think that the um the Bigfoot, the Yeti experiences reincarnation? Are they on the wheel of incarnation or is it not necessary for them because like animals they are well they are perfect in the way that they are, or are they evolving?

SPEAKER_07 20:47

I think um well, I don't want to get into details about it, but just from experience with Nest family, I think that uh perhaps some of their people uh even can come back as human, want you know, want to uh have a human experience. Yes. You know, I'm not saying that's a fact, but uh it's a strong belief that I have.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I think I think it's entirely possible. Well, I will tell you that, you know, sometimes as opposed to past life regression, I do something called an interlife regression that talks about uh what happens after we leave our bodies, right? And there are a lot of commonalities that people experience, but one of them is the uh a council, if you will. And sometimes um individuals have reported to me that they have seen uh Yeti on their council. And we appear to be in a soul group with many types of beings, and even as humans, um we can choose to incarnate on different planets where there is life. It's nothing too far out. You know, usually people our soul group tends to want to be in something bipedal, and you know, but it can be.

SPEAKER_07 22:09

Star Wars bar scene.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

It's a Star Wars bar. That's where we are. One of the signals or one of the phenomena that happens with Neff and his family is that for you, it's a signal, marbles appear. You've seen them come right out of the atmosphere like a porting.

SPEAKER_07 22:28

It's a basically every visit.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Every visit.

SPEAKER_07 22:31

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

And this morning, you know, you were on my mind. I was thinking about what we were going to do, and I happened to look down at my makeup case where there had been nothing previously, and there was a giant marble. A big one just sitting there.

SPEAKER_07 22:47

So that would be a pleasant surprise.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

I think that was our man Neff saying hello. And and um tell us a little bit more about the fa uh the family unit of of Neff. And also are there are there differences between the Yeti, the um the skunk ape, the uh uh what is it they call in Australia, the um Yary? Yeah. Any are there differences between or are they s sort of the same ethnicity, if you would like, for lack of a better term?

SPEAKER_07 23:29

There's a a couple things I want to mention. First, uh the marble thing. I'll save that. Um first I'll answer your your second question. And so when the pictures of Neff happened, you know, behind the fence there that that Duane took in 2019, yes. Sat on them for almost three and a half years. And they even knew the timing and when to put them out before the AI took off, right? So that way it couldn't be used, even though people still tried to do that after the fact. Yeah. But um the that uh the unique shape of Neff's nose in comparison to every other picture I've seen out there, it's you know, there's nothing else like that. So that brought up the question um, do your people have different races like humans do? And they said yes. So that would explain, you know, the Yowie, the Yaren, the Yeti, the you know, the Almus, all of them, just all different, um different uh types, different, uh not necessarily types, but different races of them. Um, you know, some people think that, oh, there's there's uh these ones are good ones, these are bad. Uh I see a lot of speculation out there like that, and I just think, well, how do you know? You don't know that, right? Um, you don't you you have to learn or or understand on an individual basis, basically. You know, they're people, right? So they all have their different personalities, and I'm sure some uh love humans and some might not like them at all. Um, so as far as that goes, yes, uh you know, there's the whole different race thing. And then um uh I digress. So there was a marble incident that happened this past winter that really brought something to light. And I, as I mentioned earlier, I gift indoors. Everything's done at the kitchen, end of the kitchen counter, right? That's where we're at. We've been there for, I don't know, a few years now, anyways. Um sometimes they're gone like that within some even 30 seconds, you know, turn your back and suddenly boom, everything's gone. Um sometimes it's within half an hour, sometimes they sit there for hours, but they always take the stuff. So um I was standing in the kitchen in Duane's cottage, uh, this one visit, and I just said out loud, I said, um, hey, can I, you know, because I hadn't gotten a marble yet. I said, hey guys, can I get something, you know, a gift in exchange for what I left you? And instantly, when my sentence finished, it was instant. Um, I saw it come out of nowhere. Yeah, this big marble looking thing hit the ground and rolled across the ground. I went and picked it up, and it was um it looks like a it at first I was like, is this a stone? You know, it kind of has the weight of a stone, it's a large marble. What was interesting was I weighed it against the marble, basically the same size, and they were the exact same weight, the two of them. So when I'm look uh I got home, I'm looking closer at it, and I think, is this a handmade marble by them? Because then I saw dermal ridge lines on it from Preston. So I think it was maybe a clay that had hardened, right? So I had um gone back the next visit and I'd asked these questions. I said, you know, did your people make this marble? And are your people the original makers of marbles in the game of marbles? And they said yes. And I thought, well, that's not gonna be in any historic record, right? And um, and then I asked uh how old this piece was, right? And they wrote, it looked like the number 700, like 700 years. Uh I guess I go back to about the 1300s. So I thought, okay, maybe they're messing with me, they like to do that. So the next visit I asked uh again and tried to get a response, were you guys just messing with me? Because sometimes, often enough, if they are, they'll write ha ha, right? It's like, yeah, we're just joking, Mike. But they didn't do that, they just left it alone. So, you know, I don't know 100%, but it seems that um, you know, I may have this 700-year-old Sasquatch marble of antiquity, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Why not?

SPEAKER_07 27:42

But there was there's one other thing I want to uh share though, that um Dwayne and I are sitting at the table having a conversation, and I'm listening to to uh you know what he's saying, and suddenly I get my thought interrupted with a marble. And in immediately, simultaneously, there a marble comes out of thin air. And Dwayne's like, he's thinking that's a confirmation for what he was just talking about, um, because that happens, right? That's happened numerous times. But I said, no, no, not this time. No, they just put a thought of a marble in my head and made one appear at the exact same time. And then that had me revert back to 2013. I was sitting in a chair outside, you know, I had my hands clasped in my lap, and and I had this thought of a marble dropping into my hands, and like a picture in my head, and I thought it was me. And and suddenly a marble drops into my hands, exact same time. And Dwayne and I are trying to figure this out. And uh at first, you know, for the longest time, I thought, did they see my or know my thought before it even reached my conscious mind? Like it had to be that quick, right? Until this recent incident that I just mentioned, um, showed me that ah, they put the thought there. That like the second time, yeah, which had me go back to that first time, say, uh no, they put the thought there, and that makes it easy for them to do a marble at the exact same time, right? If they're creating both. So that showed me that, oh, they can they can plant thoughts in our mind, and you know, you you know damn well that if they can do that, so can the bad guys, you know, demons, all that stuff, right? So um it was just very interesting, and sometimes it takes a long time to figure certain things out. Like that was uh 14 years to put that together, you know, to to come to that solid conclusion that, oh, they can plant thoughts, you know, and then use a marble simultaneously to show that, hey, we did that.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Yes. Well, I'd say it's very uh compassionate, you know, almost like a Buddhist sensibility in a way, because they're they're they don't seem to really do anything to frighten you, or maybe some of the things are startling that have happened. But would you say that generally speaking, um it's a compassionate kind of caring relationship that you have with the beings?

SPEAKER_07 30:22

100%. And there's been things happen along the way, you know, that are personal to me that I could have made a better choice. And it's I've seen Neff's reaction to it, and I've pissed him off a couple times, and I've had to, you know, make up for that and change that to uh you know continue the relationship, basically, right? It just exposes who they are. Um so even if I make a bad choice, it it's still a teaching moment, you know, seeing his reaction, and then they're very forgiving as well, right? So as long as you make the uh make amends or you know, rectify the situation, you know, they're willing to forgive that. And you know, I've had nothing but benevolence shown to me in multiple locations since day one of getting involved in this subject.

SPEAKER_08 31:19

It's um it's December 2019. This just showed up. This is Neff. We know this is Neff. That's a um he's grown in a few years. What?

SPEAKER_05 31:42

Show how hard the snow is. Try to make an imprint with your boot. Show the weight that it would take to make that. Stop that.

SPEAKER_08 31:48

Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_05 31:56

Yeah. Not even close.

SPEAKER_08 31:59

No. That's about a 14-inch print now, and it it's about five uh close to five and a half inches wide. Yeah, no, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 32:12

They don't do anything to interrupt or interject our our human free will. So they there's no manipulation from them. Uh no nothing like uh them, hey, you gotta worship us or you know, like a dark.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

They're the manipulators.

SPEAKER_07 32:30

Basically, not them. Which you can't with them.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_07 32:34

No, it's impossible. They, you know, they're they know. So they're uh, you know, they're almost angelic-like, basically, in in their disposition, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Do you think that um, you know, they have the ability to manifest, to physicalize, and to really physicalize uh in uh totally in our in our third density, in our 3D world. Um do you think they have something like an internal step-up or step-down transformer where they can alter how their their molecules vibrate? Is that it's a it's a choice. So they can say, we're not gonna show ourselves now, let's go into the let's go into the higher realm right now. And and so it's a conscious thing that they can or cannot do. They can either decide to physicalize or choose to go into the other realm where they also, I guess, live equally.

SPEAKER_07 33:42

They are for the most part in that other dimension, other realm because it keeps them safe. And they gave us a drawing one time that um basically showed a a demon with horns with a unhappy look on its face. And then they had drawn um, you know, something like the earth and then a line to it and another thing, basically showing a dimension. So they were saying, you know, we hide here and the demons can't get us. So I think that's probably a higher frequency that a demonic entity can't-they can't enter there, they just can't access it. They can't go there, so the so they're pissed off, they can't access them, right? Um, and I've also learned I don't think Sasquatch mess with the dark realm. Like I mean, as in confrontation, I think they completely avoid um just things I've learned along the way, but they're they're well aware of any, you know, demonic presence or anything like that. And I I strongly don't think there's any technology being used by them. I think it's all inherent. There, I think they they have complete control over their ability to uh shift their frequency. So and and also and travel great distance, um, just like that, basically.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

By thought or whatever.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

However that's however that works.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Oh, that's uh, you know, even you know, even ETs that are evolved have to use sometimes technology to achieve that state. And you know, met a lot of times when people are um I'm not gonna use abducted, but when they're visited during the night, they're always talking about their bodies being floated out through the through a window or up through the thing, you know. So it but that again requires techno there's technology involved with that. But this is a natural process of an evolved being that we're talking about here.

SPEAKER_07 35:39

Yeah, I think so. They are basically they told me they are the original earth people.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 35:45

So they are connected to to this earth like you know, they are one with Earth at another level.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Yeah, absolutely. I remember I told I asked you one time, I was very, I guess we were having some terrible weather, so I was very worried about them. I said, how do they, are they gonna be okay in this blizzard? How do they how do they manage? Where do they go? What do they do? And um at that time you said, well, I don't really know, you know, I don't know if I really want to talk about that. I have my own ideas about it, but I don't know if I want to talk about it. Do you are they always able to be safe when they switch into their ethereal mode?

SPEAKER_07 36:28

So I think, like I said, for the most part, they are in that invisible state, and and sometimes they'll come into the physical state. But I think I think they also have an understanding that they'll be safe, you know, brief briefly uh in that state because they are hunted by by military, and we don't know um what uh they probably know, but we don't know what kind of technology the the military is using to uh locate them. And I think this is also a part of why um I haven't had a uh a close visual with Neff yet. I've had physical contact countless times and you know, prints showing up beside me, the you know, turn your head and oh, you know, just suddenly there, and you know, their presence is with us. They're safe in that other uh dimensional state, right? But um yeah, I don't think they're physical very often. Yeah. But in these times, they are showing more and more to more and more people, right? Because we are we are in the midst of a reveal. Um you know, as far as my own experience of having a close visual, I'm still waiting on that, and you know, and I and I hope so. And I think I missed out on one at one point um about a year ago, but uh, you know, not not to say that it's it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

So well, it may happen at the convention that we're both going to attend, the Bigfoot Will Heal Us uh convention, uh, with so many like-minded people and so much love and safety, and it it something profound may happen. Well, there have been photographs taken, and obviously you you have photographs that you sat on for a while, as you mentioned before, that are really profound.

unknown 38:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

I mean, the the the most profound thing I have ever seen in this area.

SPEAKER_07 38:35

And there was the ones I showed you today, too.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_07 38:39

Yeah, those are not out there yet. Um, I have to get permission on that first. But uh yeah, the ones uh with Neff that that Dwayne actually took back in December 2019, and he didn't see him. Um he he heard him, he heard a childlike heard a childlike giggle. It was almost midnight, right? He had stepped outside and he hears this childlike giggle. So he knew something was up because we'd been doing this for a while. Pointed his phone, uh, took a photograph, didn't really see anything, and then um didn't hear the shutter sound go off that he typically hears on his phone. So he took another photograph. So that uh there was two photos taken basically seconds apart, showing difference in facial expressions.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Well, I know you used to call him Laughing Boy because he was he called him Mr. Funny. It was Mr. Funny, yeah. And and the photo that you showed me, the one we're discussing over the fence, he's smiling big. And um i i it it was so heartwarming, you know. So he's so they're able to also like and discarnate entities can do this. I guess digitally. And was was Duane using a digital camera for that or was it a just a that was his phone his phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:03

Oh, his phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Well, I tell you, it's amazing. Do you think the um do you think that these beings are are very long-lived individually?

SPEAKER_07 40:12

I I had asked at one point um how long do your people live in human years? They didn't give me an answer. So I changed my question. Do your people live at least 200 human years? And they wrote yes. So then I tried to up that. Um I said, I uh I wrote after that 500 years. I got no response. And I wrote 300 years and no response. So they didn't write anything else, but they did say at least 200 years.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

At least 200 years.

SPEAKER_07 40:42

For all I know, that could be a thousand years. It could be. I don't know, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:45

It could be, and they and they have the strong bonds. Tell us a little bit about Neff's family. Now, and and I know that uh he has Neff has siblings and I think even children.

SPEAKER_07 40:58

Yeah, I I don't have any details on on that. You know, I do know that he has a significant other and um he has shown, you know, what she looks like. Um there's the younger, also younger, uh I don't know if it's a younger brother Neff's. Uh his name's Ninjanin. So he's been very involved for, I don't know, maybe the last five or six years, and his foot's now at 14 inches, so he's probably about seven feet tall, maybe. Neff's foot is now at 16 and a half inches. Um I he gave uh one footprint this winter to let me measure it basically because he knows I'm documenting the growth, right? Um there was another family member this winter with that just massive 20-inch footprint.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

This winter you found that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:51

That was this past winter. Um just you know, incredible. Dwayne and I both took our boots off and put our feet beside it. Just like he's he's gonna be like that. And then there was some smaller prints beside that one that we didn't even really pay that much attention to, right? It's like, hey, there's other little family members here too, but you know, we were so in awe of this massive 20-inch footprint, right? So when and when you see that too, you know that um, you know, they're standing right there watching you document, and you know, they could be standing basically right over top of you. They're not in the woods, they're right there, and it's you know, it's humbling. And it it's also a good feeling too seeing that because you know that you know they're they're happy with you if they're if they're giving you that footprint, you know, it's like meh, you guys are you guys are doing all right.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

Yeah. Oh, well, that's really uh this is so so phenomenal. Um, and let's see, oh you know something I wanted to ask. When when the beings are around, when they're around you, do you I don't know if this is true, but I have a feeling that it is, that you've had also psychic experiences with what we would call spirits or discarnate entities. Do you get the same kind of feeling? Does the hair stand up on your arms or that kind of thing? Or do you have uh does your spidey sense tingle when they're around? Do you see orbs when they come around or before or after?

SPEAKER_07 43:29

I've had incidents where I have felt like an electrical charge, um, you know, and and my you know, hair on my arms stood up and that. But that's been very rare. So there's been a lot of times I've been given physical contact, and I don't know they're right there beside me. You know, I can't tell. Um one night, I think this was two winters ago now. I I asked them, I said, Hey, can I get a hug? And I was standing outside um when I happened, I got hugged. From behind it, it was you know it was quick, but it was firm. And uh I didn't, you know, I didn't feel anything prior to that, right? So yeah, so sometimes you know I might feel the energy. Most of the time I don't think I do. And then there is orb activity, you know, that has happened both indoors and out. And also there was a uh an incident that happened twice. Dwayne and I are sitting inside his cottage, he's in his chair, you know, I'm sitting right beside him basically on a couch right there, and and suddenly these three lights show up in a triangle on his arm, and it it's happened twice. And he uh m managed to take a picture the one time and and get it on camera. And there was no, you know, there was no source of where this was coming from, right? But I've learned three dots in a triangle are very there's a extreme significance um with regards to that, and it it has to do with stepping into another dimension. So we I I know for a fact we are able to do it. Yes. There's been an incident way back, you know, it's it's in it's in my book actually, um, which I wrote about, and you know, we didn't understand it at the time, um, but years later, you know, the like I said, it's written in there, so the story's in there. But um the the three dots in a triangle, I've tried over and over throughout the years to try and get more insight on this. And even at one point, they the one of my sketch pads, they put the three dots, you know, black sharpie. It's thick paper, it'll go through one page, maybe start to go through a second page, but not 12 pages. And they look so lined up that they look like it went through all the pages that that they're completely lined up right on top of one another. And it seems to me that you know they're saying, you know, these are the levels of the layers of of of existence. Yeah, layers of frequency or you know, whatever that um well, you know, Tesla said if we understood the power of three, we'd understand everything. And three six nine, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Yep, that's right. And I can also tell you that a triangle is a very common mark that people who are having, I would say, positive ET contact. Let's make sure that that's we're talking about fair-minded good beings that they're enacting with, like people from the Liran system or whatever. But the the triangle is uh, you know, our our friend uh Wes Roberts woke up one morning and uh he sent me a photograph. He had a triangle right on his chest, and it didn't hurt. It was red in color, like as if it was burned, but it wasn't a burn. So this is this is something that we see, and it it it has to be incredibly significant, as you say. It has to be.

SPEAKER_07 47:02

Um there there was a um sorry to interrupt. No, go ahead. Just uh it brought up this this memory of um at one point I had this this inkling or this push to look up that old movie Stargate, you know. I think it's from that movie James Spader, Kurt Russell, yeah, yeah. And so they they use all these symbols to get through this Stargate, which shows up in this other place, you know, Egyptian like um, and then to get back, there's a symbol missing.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Yeah, the third symbol.

SPEAKER_07 47:41

It the the the one symbol that they needed ended up being three dots in a triangle.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 47:48

Which I found very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

I do find that interesting too. And they also talked about every every location has to be defined by three directions, too, you know, so which is why it was so significant that they had to have each symbol in place. But something is something is going on, that's for sure. Now, I did want to mention your beautiful book, and I want to show this right here. Here it is. This is Mike's book, and it is called Invisible Giant, the true story of Sasquatch Contact. Beautiful cover, by the way, by Mark Patterson and Mike Patterson, and um I love the way you say this is not just a story of discovery, it is an invitation to reconsider, reconsider the boundaries of our existence, to open what to open your mind. And do you find if you are more in a process of meditation, and I don't know if you have any regular disciplines like that, but if you do, or just sitting quietly, that you're more likely to have contact?

SPEAKER_07 48:56

I find they like that place when we're either almost about to fall asleep or just about to wake up. Yeah. There's uh, you know, those two spots are a special spot that um I've had numerous incidents happen.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

Well, we release chemicals at those times, which put us into the alpha state essentially, into a receptive state. The bot the human body just does that after sundown. It's one of the things that happens.

SPEAKER_07 49:29

Otherwise, you know, our minds tend to be quite busy, right?

SPEAKER_01 49:32

Oh, I know. And they don't like to weed through that probably, or they find it ridiculous. Sorry, who knows, who knows what. But um I'm so happy that you that you put out this book, Mike, and without you know, belaboring the point too long. I i it it's been a long time in coming.

SPEAKER_07 49:51

Yeah, 10 years, right now.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

About 10 years. And is there is there anything else that you'd like to tell me that you discussed in the book that that we haven't really talked about here that that would be you know significant? Uh for instance, um we talked about marbles, the print strange light phenomena. Um and um how about are we being watched? Are they helping us in this dire transition that we're going through?

SPEAKER_07 50:29

Um you know, there's um my experience has shown me that it seems they know any point in my life, but not just to the present. It seems that they know what's coming too in the ahead in the timeline, um, you know, without really diving into uh I guess guesswork or you know, I I don't want anything to sound like it's coming from ego or anything either, right? So um they but they seem to be basically pretty much all knowing. You know, I'm not putting them on a pedestal like a god or something like that, not at all. They're just very very tuned in to consciousness, and but it seems that they know what's coming in the future as well, you know, as in the past. It actually um I tell uh in the it's either in the preface or the uh foreword at the beginning of my book, I tell a little story where um I I was small enough, my my parents had just moved to Toronto from Scotland and and um you know we were back then the the railings weren't so tight. We lived on the eleventh floor and I had gone out on the balcony, you know, this high and crawled between the railings and hung from one arm. And you know, it I've had these thoughts r more recently thinking you know, there there are there's definitely a demonic realm, and those things are everywhere, it seems they're um extremely prevalent, and I think they see they may see our whole lives too and our path in that. And I have a question for Neff's family, you know, if they if they can go back to that point and and I'm I'm wondering, you know, and this is kind of dark too, like did something try to kill me back then, but you know, they didn't succeed, obviously, right? You know, so I I'm curious about that. That's just a recent thing that's come up because of that incident. It's like why would you crawl between the railings and and how do you hang from one arm at, you know, whatever I was, two years old or a year or you know, and and then pull yourself back up.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Is that how you remember it that you pulled yourself back up or or I don't remember it all?

SPEAKER_07 53:02

No, it's a story that my my dad told me. Actually, um I was uh just over his place there the other day, and in that story, you know, I brought that up to him, right? And he goes, uh, which I didn't tell him that, he actually said, um uh thankfully uh uh an apartment came up on the first floor right away. So within a week we're we're on the first floor.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

You had a you had a baby who was trying to climb climb to Mount Everest a little prematurely. That's a that is an amazing story, but you you know what I'm going to pause it here, and and I think it's very probable that that Naf and his family have always been around you. And that it's very possible also that in the interlife you formed some type of agreement that you would do this kind of work because Mike, I'll tell you, you are one of the few people doing the ethical work here. You know, like we have horrible programs on television. I think they're horrible. I can't even stand to watch them, where they're out there with weapons and trail cams, and they want to do this terrible thing and that terrible thing, and they play recordings, and maybe they'll get a little response, but it's just yeah misleading usually. They run they run over here and there's nothing there. But um I think that you are here for many reasons, of course, but this work that you are doing is unique, incredibly unique, it's significant, and there simply are no other researchers doing this who have the kind of contact and l long years of intimacy with these beings. And I don't think that that just happens. I think that there is a predestination that they knew about you, maybe you agreed to be together, and um and you are fulfilling uh your your journey in your in your way.

SPEAKER_07 55:05

Yeah, it's um definitely uh something I think about sometimes. Um with those fo uh especially those photographs of Neff. Yeah. Um I had asked the next visit, do you want those put in a word uh in a video for the world to see? And they wrote, not yet. It was an unexpected answer. Um, so almost three and a half years. And then I get this message, Mike, you show. So they were, you know, when they tell you to show a crystal clear face shot of them to put it out there, there's obviously purpose behind that. You know, that's that's part of disclosure, part of their their disclosure. Um you know, this isn't something that I if you had told me before this journey started that I would be doing this, I would have laughed at you.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

You're crazy. Well, yeah, I mean, yes.

SPEAKER_07 55:58

But um apparently I'm I'm built for it because I tell you, you gotta grow a thick skin uh putting this stuff out.

SPEAKER_01 56:05

Yeah, it's you do, and it's and it's uh you know uh and you're you're plugged into a reality, they're informing you of things, and so you're you have to be hyper-vigilant. And yeah, there's a there's an awful lot to it, and you know, I'm sure there's also an awful lot that you've sacrificed personally to do this work. And because it's uh you know, you got Duane, but it's somewhat of a lonely business. Uh not lonely in the sense that you can you can uh you know in involve yourself with Neff and these other beautiful beings, but lonely in the sense of, you know, can I tell people that I actually do this?

SPEAKER_07 56:47

Or you know, it does alienate you. Um it really it kind of segregates you somewhat, you know, from most of society because uh, you know, most people don't even think of this stuff or they don't believe it, or um you know, there's people like ourselves that you know we get it and that, but uh and then and then the other thing with with myself, I'm very uh I'm very open about it and and I guess courageous or just uh I don't hold back. When I meet somebody for the first time, I'm usually talking about sa interdimensional Sasquatch and ten within ten minutes.

SPEAKER_01 57:30

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_07 57:31

You know, I I have no fear. Good. Like zero fear. Even if you know, if I go get a job working for somebody, I'm telling the boss uh, you know, within the first day or whatever. And I don't care what they think if uh, you know, oh we can't have this crazy guy, gotta you know, fire him or whatever. Um I don't think like that at all. I have no fear about it.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

Well you're operating without fear, and fear is the main tool of the dark side.

SPEAKER_07 57:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

So you're doing you're doing everything right. I think I think I told you if um I had I had a little experience. Nothing like your experience, but I did have an experience. Um I was a teenager and I was working at a summer stock theater, and it was about we had just broken down a set, and I was doing some laundry, of course, and it was about three in the morning, and it was this theater, a lot of it at that time was an old uh CCC camp, WPA camp. You must have had those in Canada, where during the Depression, men needed jobs and they would do forestry jobs, and they built the government built forestry camps. Anyways, one of those old spots from the from uh from uh 1929. And I walked up towards the bathhouse and I saw first I saw to the right a being that was only about as tall as I was, jumping up and down and throwing leaves around. And then I saw that there was a bigger shape behind that little being. And again, like you, I heard a voice in my head. It just sounded like a woman's voice. It said, This is my baby, we're just we're just having a walk, please, please don't be a please don't be afraid. It wasn't don't hurt me, it was please don't be afraid, this is my baby, we're just out walking. And I think I I sent a message back that says, you know, we love you, um, you go right ahead. I'm not going to bother you. And then, and again, no fear. I mean, I saw what I saw. I don't really share this with too many people. This is too far out for some people, but I actually I did. I saw um a very young uh Sasquatch and its mother in the middle of the night in the Black Hills of South Dakota, which is a Native American sacred ground, and I believe it is hugely populated with the Sasquatch because the the Native people, the Lakota people, have a relationship, a deep relationship with the beings. They leave them big salmon. They catch salmon and they leave a certain percentage in a place by the river. I mean, it's it's uh it's a centuries-old, millennia-old relationship. So, you know, I know what I saw, and I felt when I when when the mother being spoke to me, it just felt like um um this is this is just this is just another being. You know, I didn't s feel any distinction between those beings and myself. As strange as that sounds.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:46

Not really.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

But yeah. Not to you?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:50

Pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:51

Oh God. Well, it's influenced my life because I you can never take that awareness, uh, awareness away from me. And um you can, and I'm glad I didn't act irresponsibly and there was no fear, but I am extremely infuriated by the types of hunting Bigfoot programs that are on, and I thank God that they can adjust their visibility so that they're protected. And this is disclosure. This is part of disclosure, as above, so below. This is part of a huge wave of disclosure that we are experiencing now that will cleanse the planet, ultimately, I believe. And uh, you're a midwife of disclosure.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:37

It's it's uh it's painful going through this, you know, with uh just how many people still don't see, right? And and uh those of us that are wide awake, it's it's it's difficult, you know, it's difficult going through this, and um just uh sometimes I just gotta try and shut it all off, right? Because and go take a walk in the woods or something, because um it can be frustrating at uh all the manipulation going on around us. So um, but I am happy to see. We're basically on the precipice of all this being wide open.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

No doubt, no doubt. And uh you will be there at the um Bigfoot Will Heal Us, Healing the Clans uh conference, which is, I believe, August 28th.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:28

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SPEAKER_07 1:03:56

I know there's another one in August too with the the Contacticon.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

So, Mike, I want to thank you so much once again for coming to visit me here on Contact TV, and I'm so looking forward to seeing you at the Bigfoot Conference in the Coarthas uh in August. And uh congratulations on your wonderful book again, Invisible Giant, a true story.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:28

You can uh find that on Amazon. It's on Amazon there.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

Anywhere you Amazon, amazon.com.ca.deutschland, Koala Lumpur, wherever you are, you can get this wonderful book. Thank you, Mike, and uh we will see you again real soon.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:45

Okay, thanks, Leslie. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:47

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