From a Weekend Campout and G.I. Joe to Camping World: The FlagPole Buddy Story

Beyond the Brand Is Sponsored by FlagPole Buddy

Jennifer sits down with Dave and Christine Jahnz — and their spirited office manager Sasha — the team behind FlagPole Buddy, to uncover the origin story, the innovation, and the community at the heart of this beloved RV brand.

Learn How:

•        A weekend in the desert, a bungee cord, and a G.I. Joe sparked an idea

•        The Hershey RV show landed FlagPole Buddy in Camping World

•        FlagPole Buddy is as useful for remote workers as it is with flag flyers

•        The full product lineup — from ladder mounts to Starlink Mini solutions built for Overlanders — are built to the highest quality standards

•        FlagPole Buddy sets itself apart in a market that’s gotten crowded fast

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

To start off, I'd love for you guys to introduce yourself and give us a 30-second like what is flagpole buddy.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Let's introduce ourselves first. I'm Dave Jans. This is my wife, Christine.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

I'm Christine Jans. I'm the president.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

She's president. And then outside the window over here, we have uh Sasha. There she is right there hanging out.

SPEAKER_04 0:26

She's uh like Sasha and I'm the problem.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Yeah, pretty much she's a problem. Problem child. She's an office manager, manufacturing, not manufacturing uh just marketing and operations.

SPEAKER_04 0:37

So I run like the day-to-day and run our social media, and I wear the hat that's given to me for the day. She does almost everything.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

It's very hard though, because her head's really big, so we have to get some really big hats.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

You know, flagpole buddy suggests that all you do is flags, but it's gonna be so much more than that. So the idea behind Beyond the Brand is getting to know you, the company a little bit, and telling the story behind the story. Beyond the brand is kind of getting beyond just the products, although those are absolutely important and there's some great products out there, but I think so many people don't know what's out there. So the podcast is very dedicated to like talking about you guys, what made you start it, what made you get involved, but then you know, kind of an overview, and then we're gonna deep dive into like what your product line is and that sort of thing. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah, perfect. Yeah. Awesome. So let's take us back to the beginning. When you guys started, where were you? Did you already were you in the RV space?

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Well, I was born in a small town, Laporte, Indiana. Had no idea about RVs. This is we're talking 66 years ago. And I ended up in aerospace after after uh working in a foundry for a long time, and I ended up going to Purdue, Purdue University, yeah, go Boilermakers. Yeah, they're in the basketball suite 16. And so after college, I ended up in Tucson, Arizona as an aerospace engineer for Hughes Aircraft. That company went down. I ended up here in California at a company that made turbine engines for uh aircraft, right? And I think within two years I met you, maybe three years of that. And Christine was uh in um accounting and all over the place. And at one time you were like even my secretary, remember that? That was kind of cool. She was right over the wall for me. So I could hear her flirting with guys on the phone on the phone, you know. And I was on the other side. I would never flirt with anybody. Yeah, it was a great. So we got married 35 years ago, and uh it's been bliss ever since.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

I thought I heard Sasha back there mouthing off.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Um not a word for me.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

I hear you back there, see? Okay. In um 2004, I kind of got tired of the corporate life. You know, you you you go up the ladder and do all that, you have to kind of climb over people and things, and it's not very fun. I was just like, this this sucks. It was just awful. So in 2004, I came up with this idea of how to hold a flagpole on an RV because we would go out to the desert. She she taught me all about the desert. I knew nothing. From Indiana, all there is is cornfields, right? Forever. So I knew a lot about corn and cows and things like that. So we went out to the desert and I just loved it. And we'd race out every weekend and we'd put our bungee our flagpole up to our RV, and then people would find our RV because of the flag we put up, right? And so at the end of the day, uh taking it down, you're cutting and doing all this stuff, and it's like, oh, it's a pain in the butt. So I'm sitting there thinking, okay, so I'm sitting there drinking and thinking, right, having some cocktails.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Hey, some of the best ideas come from that. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

It gets better. So I'm drinking, I'm thinking there's gotta be a way to do this, right? Hold this thing in two spots without having to climb up the ladder and put the pole down into something and hang on to the ladder and zip tie and do all that stuff. So I'm thinking back to my my childhood days, right? And there's this saying, GI Joe. I don't know if you remember G.I. Joe or not. G.I. Joe could hold just about anything, could grip things. It was like, how does this G.I. Joe grip things? And I can't. So I'm sitting there messing around, and I came up with this idea right here of actually taking taking a pole and angling it in and putting it in like that. So it's kind of like what G.I. Joe was doing. And so it's like, oh, okay, cool. So I made some and and I gave them to my friends, and then I said, and she said, uh, we should do something with that. And so I got a patent on it, and we started our little business out of the garage. And within a few years, uh it started going a little somewhere. And then Christine quit her aerospace job 2008 and went into the garage.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

So here's my wife at the garage working. So we had cameras all up and everything because people would come to the house and buy the product. And it was like, this is I don't really like that. So in like 2011, she was at a show with her friend selling, and it was uh Pennsylvania, it was the Hershey show. And she calls me, I'm in a meeting in corporate room. She calls me up, she says, Hey, this guy just came by. I'm like, Yeah, okay. Was he hitting on you? No, no, no. He says he's the owner of Camping World and he wants to get our product into his store. You know, not very trusting. I wasn't. And so I looked him up and I said, Well, what did he look like? And she says, Oh, he looks like this, and like, okay, that's pretty cool. It looks like them. And she said his name, and and it's just like this guy, Marcus Lamonis, owns Camping World. So I he asked me to call him. So I called him and talked to him about it, and he says, I want your product in the store.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

But wait, before he goes on, um, Marcus Lamoni, I asked for a business card, and he actually is like, Well, I don't carry a business card. He's like, Can you give me a piece of paper and I'll just write my name and my phone number down? So right there, I'm like, hmm, okay. I didn't really trust him. That's why I called David and asked him.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah. And I was that makes sense. I mean, I was just an event last week where you know, a lot of the senior executives don't carry business cards, or if they have them, they have less than 10 in their wallet.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

And so, yeah. I must be a senior executive because I only carry one.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

I don't carry any. So you're more senior than so you'd be writing your name down on a piece of paper now, too. I would. I would.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

So the funny so the funny thing is uh he he said, I'll take uh uh I want to put you in the store. Okay, call the call the buyer up. And we've been trying to get in the camping world for years, right? So we knew which buyer to call. So we call the buyer up, and a day later she says, she says, I'm sorry, we can't do that. We're downsizing, we're getting rid of small vendors and things like that. And like, okay, well, thank you. And I sent a nice email to Marcus, thank you very much. You know, the RV industry is great, and blah, blah, blah. And the next day I get a call from the buyer, and she says, Well, I'll take two of everything and put them in our stores. Like, okay, so that's cool. So, so we're doing pretty good there, and then the garage got too big, full of stuff. We had inventory in the house, in the bedroom, and it was just crazy. So the camping world started carrying our products. So then it's like, Christine found this place out in Elkone, California. So then I moved in here, and and we've got some good employees. Sasha's, she's out there. Sasha, turn your ears off. Turn your ears off, Sasha. I don't want to hear this. She's really, a really, really good employee. She's got great personality, she's great with customer. God, you're gonna make me cry. Stop it. We have two out in the shop here. They're they're fantastic also. And then when we when we make uh bigger pallets to go into Amazon, our ejection mold shop, which is not ours, it's next door, they manage to pallet everything for us. So we don't have as many employees because we outsource a lot of the work from that standpoint that we don't have to. You know, employees are are some of the harder things to deal with, right? For sure.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

So, what would you say the problem that you ran into that nobody was solving when you created Flagpull Buddy was? I mean, because it's a pretty unique item, you know, it it holds not just a flagpole now, and we're gonna hop into what else it holds, but it's it's one of those things that you know is a pretty unique item, but there weren't a lot of other competitors out there doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

No, there wasn't. And that's the k that's the problem. Uh it was the zip ties. So if you didn't, if you just put it in a tube down low, the pole would actually bang on the ladder. So at night, it was just crazy. A lot of sound people would go up there and take them down. But what I solved is is having an upper support without having to climb the ladder to get to it. Yeah, to keep keep you off the ladder, because ladders are they're very unsafe. More people get hurt on ladders than any of us really realize, because it's very common. At our extended age, once you fall off a ladder, you're gonna be able to do it. These youngins that work here, they're 30 years old. Yeah, they know nothing. They know nothing about getting hurt. If you fall off a ladder three or four feet high, it it hurts. It can be a life-changing event if you get too high. And then, you know, a lot of these guys are getting stubborn and they say, I'm gonna climb that ladder anyway, and the wife's down there, don't climb the ladder. So that is the problem that we solved. We help people uh basically be safe, uh safer with their RV system, uh, with our flagpole system.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

For sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Started selling.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

All right, so would would you was there ever a moment where you were like, This is it, I'm done?

SPEAKER_01 10:05

That was yesterday. Yeah, that's true. Sasha was mouthing off too much, and I said, That's it, I'm done.

SPEAKER_04 10:13

You gotta keep it light and fun in the workplace. Yeah. Goodness, don't have an HR department. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I am the HR department.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

So well, you know, I mean, being a small business, there's days that you just, you know, it it can feel insurmountable. Like some things just feel like they're against you, you know, show booth increases, all those things. And I mean, we've seen your teams all over the country. And so, you know, getting out there and getting your name out there is one of those things that as a small business owner myself, it's it's got its own set of challenges. When was the first sign you felt like you had something very real on your hands? Like, was it that moment with camping world or was it something else?

SPEAKER_03 10:53

I think it's when we actually got to move out of the garage and into this facility. That was huge.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

And that was all based on camping. Yeah, and that was yeah, it was. That that's when things changed. We did uh, I don't know if you're familiar with Courseite Arizona and the big RV event there.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Yep. I remember, you know, before Kimmy took care of it, you know, I remember we we've been out there for years. Um, we haven't been out there since, well, it's been a bunch of years.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

So Yeah, we've been going to that probably 30 some years before we actually got into this business. We'd all go out with there with our friends and and put up flags and circle the wagons, right? And we could shop and shop and come back and yeah, show everybody what you got and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

But once we did our first show out there, which was pretty awful, it was main event, and we were in a canopy, a 10 by 10.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

So we like went, then we went over to Tyson Wells, and we had our RV, and we sold off of it, and then we actually moved to the big tent.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

And the reason we moved to the big tent, because it was one of those days I'm thinking, I'm done with this, because we're outside and a storm came up, and all the all the the tents, the canopies, they just took off. Everything took off, and we're sitting inside R R V watching the canopies go and it's raining, we're not selling, we're miserable, it's cold, and I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. But we said, okay, let's just try inside the big tent and see how that goes. And that went really well. So we do the big tent every year. We get you know three spots, and uh it's that's turned out really good. Yeah. So we that's fun.

SPEAKER_04 12:31

To think you started in a 10 by 10 outside, and now you're in three spots. Yeah, three whole spots, and you're in like the middle area of the big tent.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

That's awesome. Yeah, prime location in the big tent.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

When did you realize that flagpole buddy could be more than just four flags? I mean, because okay, so maybe you don't know. My background is in RV roofing. We own an RV roofing company, and so I can't tell you how many people mount their Starlink to the top of their roof, and I cringe every time. And so I tell everybody about flagpole buddy because you don't have to do it that way.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Exactly. That's a good point. I think satellite dishes. Remember the the the um tailgators? Yep. I made I made a mount that attached onto our poles, and that was kind of uh like, hey, it's not just for that, for flags. And then when Starlink came out, I mean, as soon as I saw Starlink, I'm like, this is fantastic. So I bought the big first dish and and put that up on a pole, and it's heavy. I'm like, this is I don't like it, but I I knew that being a camper for all these years in RVR, the worst problem is these cell boosters. None of them work. I tried every one of them and I couldn't get them, maybe a little bit of work, but you know, if you don't have a cell signal for coming your direction from somewhere, you're never gonna pick it up anyway. So when I Starlink, I'm like, you can go anywhere. Wow, this is gonna sell.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

This was that a customer-driven idea, or was that something that you were like, no, this is what we have to do next?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

No, that's all that's me. Yeah, I was just just like this this has to do this. We've we've got the system. We this this is a natural for that. And I've tried to put other things up there. I put lights and things like that up there, and uh those are okay, but it's not a big it's not the seller that the Starlink is.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Right. So what would you say makes your Starlink mount different from just like propping the dish up on the ground wherever they are, other than the fact people aren't gonna drive over it?

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Well, that that is I've heard stories. I've heard stories of uh deers taking them off with their horns, right? They get near them and they get caught in the cable and they run off. Kids ride their little ramps right over them. You hear all sorts of stories. And then, you know, the other problem is that if you're parked next to somebody in a campground and you want to put it out, you got to make sure you put it in front or back or somewhere because the side of the RV will get in get in the way. And so it's I don't know, putting it up above the rig just kind of made sense to me.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

For sure. So do you think the Starlink product line has changed how like people think about Flagpole Buddy as a whole, then? Yeah, yeah, I would hope.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Yeah, because there's uh there's times I says, Well, why don't we change the name to Starlink Buddy?

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Well, I mean, I think Flagpole Buddy's well branded, so you know there's that side of it. What do you do you have any other campsite problems that you're looking at that you could, you know, probably solve with a similar item?

SPEAKER_03 15:32

We're always thinking of new issues.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Oh, I come up with all things. Oh my gosh. My latest one, this would this is uh you're familiar with the Starlink Mini? Okay, so this is my I have uh my production, I have 40 3D printers. So I do my own production in-house. So I can design anything, and the next day I can test it out. And if somebody wants something special, I can design it for them. We have like there's uh when we started, there was like one ladder out there, and it was a one-inch diameter ladder. So I hard-tooled for that. And then I'm not saying there's a bigger one, two inch. Now there's square ones, now there's rectangular ones, now there's octagonal ones. There's 14 variations we have. Wow. So I've designed and we print those. So whoever wants something, if somebody calls and says, Hey, I I got this kind of ladder, and I said, Well, measure it, boom, I'll make you amount for it. Not a problem. So things like this is one of the newer, my newest things. This is what uh we call the fist, as you can key. It's uh it's a fist, and it holds a Starlink mini. So what you'll do It's on the suction cup. Not quite all the tight, but it's on the suction cup. And what you'll do is you go rotate it to wherever you want. That's really cool. So now you'll put it on the side of your RB anywhere you want. You can put it on your van, you can put it on the hood of your car and tilt it this way. It goes just about anyway. It's that's one of our one of our big items now is these industrial strength suction cups with our proprietary white material.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Well, and they hold really well. We've been in a windstorm up to 70 miles an hour with them, and I mean we've gone out to check it and it's still holding strong. It is a great suction cup. It really does what it's supposed to do. What would you say surprised you about how the community, like the RV community, responded to your product? Does anything surprise you, Dave?

SPEAKER_01 17:28

What did you say, Sasha?

SPEAKER_04 17:29

Does anything surprise you?

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Uh uh no. Um, I'm surprised that I'm not surprised by much. Some things that don't sell. I am surprised at what doesn't sell. We have some lights that don't sell. Really cool. So like a sparkler, right? It fans out and it's solar powered, and you can crush it down and store it. And it's like make it into all different shapes. Yeah, you can make it into heart shapes, you can make it into a scorpion, all sorts of things. And I'm I'm just like, I don't get it. It doesn't, it's not selling.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

So if it means anything, I don't think I've ever seen one of those, and I've been a full-time RVR for 13 years. So maybe it's that people don't know that it exists.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

That's true. And they did just come out in January of this year. So what? It's only March.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

I know, but it you know so so they could find those on the website? Yes. Okay, gotcha. All right. So what would you say your is your core customer and has that shifted over the years?

SPEAKER_01 18:32

Yes, it has shifted. Uh when we first started out, it was the uh just the RVer that was going on vacation or you know, maybe a couple of weeks on the road, that kind of thing. But what happened was COVID, that pandemic really, really put us on the map, I think. Because at that point, the only place to go where you could be safe without having to wear a mask was your RV. So your whole family's in your RV, they're traveling all over the country. They couldn't make enough RVs. And with RVs, they want accessories. And guess what? You know, one of ours was an accessory. I look at us like a um a golfer, right? You go to the golf club, right, and and the resort, and you're talking to your buddy, and he says, Hey, I got this new titanium bubble. Wow, look at this. This is so cool. Next thing you know, he's got it, and the other guy's got it. And it's the same kind of thing with our product. The guy putting up his flagpole does that like that, and they says, Hey, how'd you do that? That's really cool. And I says, I want that. And so then they get it. It's kind of like that. It's a mentality thing, it's not a necessity item at all. People, you know, it's a nice thing to have. So I kind of'm like, okay, that people, those groups were great. But then after COVID, what happened is everybody wanted to work on the road. And so the Starlink thing just boomed. And so now our market is kind of changing to younger people who are full-timers with their families on the road and using the Starlink. Jeez, um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Well, and I mean, I think to a lot of people, even people that fly a flag, maybe don't fly a flag as much anymore. You know, I think that a lot of that has changed over the years, and you see that at the shows, you know, where there used to be, you know, hundreds of flags up, people don't take the time to do it. But boy, do they set up their Starlink because you can't have it without watching TV or something. So, you know, you know, for us it's a work thing too. So we understand that. For someone that maybe has both the flag mount and the Starlink mount, what does that campsite like setup kind of look like? Because I know for us it's really easy. I think it probably takes us eight, eight or nine minutes to set everything up from start to finish by the time you actually, you know, turn Starlink on and it finds the thing. So like the setup itself is very easy. It's a breakdown for us. We have the three-pole system where they click together. Um, so we have a bigger one, and we don't have the mini mount yet. Um, we have a mini mount for our truck, but not through you guys. And so that's a different type of mount. And it's actually because my husband will go to job sites where he's off-grid a lot of times, and that's sometimes the only way he can keep in touch with us from wherever he is. So we have one on the truck. But I bet that that one that you just showed would be a good mount for that because he could do that wherever he wanted to, so not not only that fist, but there's a few other flat mounting options now.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

So there's the fist, the sidearm, and a flat mount for suction cups on it that has done really well. And we are actually working on we talk about a change of customer. We are starting to dabble in the overland community. So a lot of those off grid or vehicle users that are using the mini, we have quite a few tailored options for that.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

That's awesome. So, is there a sequence like that you'd recommend if someone were looking at, you know, a flag pulp buddy mount for their Starlink? Where would you you'd first probably start by asking what kind of Starlink system do you have? Yes. So walk me through that.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Sasha does Sasha, you take care of this. So go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

If you called me and said that you had a Starlink and you're looking to put it, usually a customer's gonna tell me if they're looking to put it on an RV or what they're looking to put it on. I'd ask you what generation you have. And then if it's going on an RV, my first option to you is gonna be a ladder mount. Because that's our bread and butter. It's what we're known for. And it's the easiest option to set it and forget it, right? Especially if it's part somebody who's an older crowd, who's a full-time RV, or you put it up and you just have to take your pull up and down. Easy peasy. Um, my next option would be on an RV, would be suction cups, because now you can move it around the ladder, right? So if you're somewhere where there's tree coverage or for whatever reason you're not getting good service, um, you can move it around the ladder to wherever's best or move it around the RV to wherever's best for you. Now, if you're somebody who's taking your Jeep out, you have a mini and you need something on the RV and you also need something on a vehicle, you could easily have your ladder mount. Again, that's where I'm gonna tell you to go first. But then we can put a flat mount or the sidearm or the any of the suction cup options onto your car. So I think they're all a good complementary to if you are an RVer who goes out, you'd have like the core item and then you can add something else to it. If you're not a big RVer and you're just an overlined kind of person, you go out, you're a weekend warrior, you're off the grid, or what have you, the flat mounting options are gonna be the best. Nobody really wants to put 13 feet of pole onto a forerunner or a Jeep or what have you.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Right. No, that makes perfect sense. So, what would you say is something that people consistently get wrong about the flagpole buddy? I know it's a tough question. Get wrong. Do they confuse you with other brands?

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Do they Yeah, it's so it's not that they confuse us with other brands. It's going back to when Flagpole Buddy started, it answered a problem that wasn't being answered anywhere else. Now everybody thinks they can answer that problem, and the market is oversaturated with things that are not up to park for the price. So thankfully, Flypole Buddy's been around for the amount of time it's been around, has a proven track record of you get what you pay for. So that price for product discrepancy, because there's so much of it out there, that would probably be one of the bigger issues. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. So if someone was on the fence about getting a Starlink mount specifically, what is one thing that usually like seals the deal for them to get a mount with Flypool Buddy?

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Convenience, customer service, warranty, the fact that you talk to a person and not AI generated human, AI generated, not human being, I guess. We're people and we're not just a business. And usually that all of those things, along with the quality of what you're getting, is why people shop with us.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Well, and mine has lasted forever. I mean, I I would actually have to ask my husband how long we've owned it. I mean, it's it's we've had it since at least 2022 when we got our Starlink mount. It looks brand new, just like we just bought it. So it's not like it's weathered or anything. The quality is 100% there. What would you say the community means to let a brand like yours in the RV world?

SPEAKER_03 25:29

Dave Christine. Oh, community is huge. I mean, we are customer-based and we always want to help the community.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Yeah, being R Vers, we understand what the RV are needs, and so we can try to help them. And the RV, uh I got lucky, I think. Uh, well, one, I got lucky with you, but the other I got lucky. The industry we're in, not knowing, not intentionally being in this industry, but the industry is a happy industry, right? People go RV. We've done some trade shows, uh, we've done some fairs, right? That's awful because people go to fairs and most of a lot of them aren't happy people. And uh so it's like I I don't want to be on round unhappy people. I spent 30 years in corporate life being around unhappy people, and and I don't want to do that anymore. Uh we don't do any other shows but RV shows. We once in a while you'll find this critankerous old man, but usually after you get through it a little bit, he'll laugh, laugh and smile, and and especially at the at the girls. I I'm just kind of there's I don't know, just to be a bother.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Be there. No, not true. All right, so where can our listeners find you? Where's the best place to go shopping for a flagpole buddy or learn what it is?

SPEAKER_01 26:50

One, two, three. Five flagpole.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

And that'll be linked in the show notes. You know, do you guys have socials too that you have? Are you on like Facebook, Instagram?

SPEAKER_04 27:02

Yeah, it's flagpolebuddy on both Instagram and Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

And so it's a great place to follow along. Great, perfect, awesome.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

And I think the last thing I want to say is if if uh anybody wants to donate to my GoFundMe page, I have a GoFundMe for an RV game, phone an app game to play on your phone. Fun. It was it's it's the game is really cool. I just need some funds to get it going. And because I gotta pay somebody because I know how nothing about coding.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

I love the backstory. He has wanted to do this. I've been a part of Flypole Buddy since what 2022. And this was a thing much for much more time before my time here. And um, for one reason or another, right? It's a lot of work to make a game, it hasn't happened, but a little enticing for uh customers with this game comes rewards, promotions, discounts, things for the customer. It's not just a game, although it is a really fun game. It's a win-win for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

So if there's a developer out there right now listing, you know, that you know, yes, call us.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

So that's awesome. Well, thanks for tuning in to this episode of Learn to RV the podcast on our Beyond the Brand series. I just want to thank you guys for joining us. You know, Dave, Christine, and Sasha, you know, Flagpull Buddy is one of those names in the industry that is well known, and we'd like to keep it that way. So we'd like to keep you in business as long as we can. If you do have questions about Flagpull Buddy, how it works, and you happen to be near me, I'm happy to show you my mount, not in a weird way, but it's it's it's a great tool and it stops you from growing into your roof or into the side of your coach, which you really don't want to do in the first place. So flagpolebuddy.com, stop by, see their stuff. I I think you said you're on Amazon too. You can get Flagpull Buddy pretty much wherever. If you are at a RV show or rally, ask the vendors, they'll show you how it works, even if you already own it and you're not using it to its full capacity. Sasha's been great to work with. I've been dealing with her for a couple months now, trying to get this episode recorded, and she is constantly replying back to me right away. And so if that's the type of team that they have, then that's the type of team you're gonna have all the way through. So thanks, guys. Thanks for being on Beyond the Brand, and we'll see you around the campfire.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Sounds great. RV