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SPEAKER_03 0:11

We are in the Mercury retrograde shadow, and for me, for me, I was born in a retrograde, so retrograde is amazing with me. The new is amazing, but the shadow the two weeks before, two weeks after, that's my Mercury retrograde.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

So the shadow, I get the shadow. So I got four weeks, everybody gets three weeks.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Oh no, that's oh, yay, okay. Well, we are live, but not like that. Yes. Let me. Yeah, I have a friend who has that too, and she loves the Mercury retrogrades because then she's like, it's relaxing, it's like peaceful, and the rest of the time it's like chaos.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Yes. Okay, well, welcome everyone. We are like, we are live. We are live by what I'm saying. And we have the wonderful Renna George here. Rena, how are you? Rena, how's your book going? How is uh how are you?

SPEAKER_03 1:06

It's wonderful. I'm getting uh so much good feedback that is really, really heartwarming. I am so like it feels like oh my god, it's really worth it. The feedback that I'm getting, the messages, the email, so many people. It's it's good. It's good. It's good. I'm I it's a blessing.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Are are these are these people who know your your your grades, older work, or or do you also have a lot of new people, new young people coming into the position in particular?

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Yes, there is there is there is both. There is new and then there is old and there is yeah, it's like yeah, it's it's kind of it, it's it's super cool like to see uh to see it all. It's good. It's good. It just makes it worse, all the hard work, and you know, everything that you put in and and all these years, and uh, you know, it's it's good. And I'm so happy that I have a tool, you know, to put in in people's hands, the the all the diviners, so they can help themselves. And and the cool thing is in in my book, The Essential Le Normand, the second edition, I don't, it's not it is about Le Normand, but really if you like really read it and and really go, you you're gonna see that it's actually more. It's like teaching you more on how for you to do stuff for yourself, and and it's like you know, like for you how to be basically more in touch with yourself on how to to everything, you know, it's like you know, how you pick up on things, how you your perception, how how you can like feel things, how you can understand or know the answers to certain situations, even without using cards, because you know, when you practice the cards a lot, you really at the end, you know, you're practicing that that that muscle. So we we don't need to uh use use like cards and everything. I'm like, ah, I need to know what's going on here, you know. But in day-to-day life, you know, when you're on the phone or when you're driving on when you're you know, you you you you get this fast, how do you call it? This this fast spark of oh, I need to do that, you know, like it comes like that intuition that really comes in like fast and strong. And then you start you start recognizing that this is this is my intu. You know, you start recognizing the difference between anxiety and intuition. And this is so huge, I think, when you start recognizing the difference between the intuition, the actual like, you know, that little voice back of your head, and your own fears and and anxiety, and like going, you know.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Yeah, and and you you you you tackle this problem by with with with the to be learnable more cards, Rana, or do uh do you give people something to to really elaborate on and with with that concept or how you go about with that? Because this is I always say this because people say, Okay, but you should trust your gut feeling, but then they always say, Okay, yeah, I'm totally agree with that, but it's often difficult to feel okay, is this like my gut feeling or is this like fear? And often people also listen to their fears. I I I think.

SPEAKER_03 4:25

So the thing is, is the more you practice your Le Normand or any tool, any kind of divination tool, like the more you do it like on a daily basis and it's part of your life, it's not something you do, it's something this is you, this is what who you are. The more you do that, the more you know you become more in tune. And when you're more in tune with yourself, this is when you find that difference. And it took me like years for me to to to get to that point. It took me, took me, took me years to get to the point of of trusting and believing and knowing, oh yes, this is my intuition. And no, I mean, this is you know, like this is the connection. So it's the intuition. Oh no, this is my fear, you know. So and it takes it takes practice, it takes practice at the beginning. And I talk, I talk about uh all this in in my book. I talk about like how to to to practice with yourself and how to feel, like to actually feel how and the difference of if it's high, if it's low, if it's feeling close, if it's feeling open. So I I talk about like so many different techniques and also how you really you ask yourself, is this where is this coming from? Is this coming like if you're making like a strong decision and then you know, like, oh, red or white? You know, uh am I choosing red because I'm I'm scared, I'm gonna lose the red, or am I choosing red because the white, or you know, and how how like you actually tend like how to tune in to yourself, and that does take practice, it's not a button. It you have you have to practice, you have to practice, you know, over and over and over. You can start practicing with dishes and restaurants and and and and and that's things, you know, and then yeah, so slowly, slowly, slowly, yeah, it it takes time. This is like the Le Normand in my book, really. It's more much more than just learning on how to use a divination tool. Because really, if you this you can use this on any tool, you can use these techniques on tarot, you can use these techniques on dousing, you can use these techniques on charms, any, any, any really, yeah, because everything is symbols around us, literally, and this is like the the art of symbols, really, the art of reading symbols. This is what this is, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

That's amazing. So, and that should also be a comforting word for someone like you, Rana, of your caliber, that you also have like to practice a lot. So you just said, Okay, I have to really find my way to it by trial and error in order to get here. So, people should not be disappointed, I assume, if something goes wrong, like in the beginning, because it's like learning forever, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Yes, exactly. I think until the day you know you're done, you're you're the the whole goal is to keep learning, and the more you learn, the more you evolve, and it's always like you're working everything because whatever you don't use, it gets atrophied, right? It gets like it just it's not bad anymore. So it's very important, I I believe. Like, this is why I really, I really like feel like wish that everybody like goes in it, relax, everybody goes in it to have fun. Everybody like they want to learn something, they wanna they you know, just just enjoy it, have fun, take it easy. Because if you're going in it and oh, I need to work, this is a class that I need to finish, and how can I study, I need to memorize. This is this is this is part of you. This should be part of your your your like technique of how you take a shower, how you breathe, how you eat, how you so you keep forcing it will will make it worse. You get more frustrated because you're not getting what you want fast. That's number one is that frustration, and then you get like after after what you get frustrated. When you get frustrated, then you get like the the how do you say that's like you know, you feel like uh yeah, I don't I don't want to do this anymore, this is too much. Then you get overwhelmed, and then you get like, okay, now I'm done with this. So that's why I feel I tell everybody, all my students, whenever you feel stressed or about to burn, put it aside, just put it aside and have fun. Just stop doing it because you're you're hurting yourself, you're pushing it, and it's doing you more harm than good. So that's why it's so so important. Number one thing is have fun, relax, enjoy. Because this is how you believe within yourself, you know. Because the whole the whole practice of this is teaching you to believe in who you are, believe in your own abilities and growing your abilities and opening and unlocking new abilities. This this is what this is about is really unlocking your your your next step, unlocking what you can do because you can. We all can do so many things, and we have it all on lockdown.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Uh, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. We we were we were talking about you previous week. I assume that your ears burnt, but we really talked good about you. Yeah, yeah. And I I was I was explaining in our practice groups that uh I still can remember from the interview we did with you, whilst you were explaining to the people and to us that whilst there was in war times when you were still like a little girl in like in Lebanon, that you were somehow reading the cards for people at that time that you were just reading it very playful just by the rules, whilst you not even really knew or understood what these grown-up problems were. And then I was saying, and that's like interesting, I don't know if you know that, but it was like in the 1970s from a previous century, had like this very first coaching ideas of the inner game of tennis, and then they somehow zoomed in on housewives who never were like sportive and they learned to tennis in like the sh the shortest amount of time by being very playful, and while your mind is playful, you pick up everything which is not said so much more than you someone micromanages on top of people. So I know we're like taking a sideways, but what you were saying there is with this playful mind, we already were talking about like previous weeks. Assume you still remember this, Morgan. But indeed, and I I think here we can take definition next level if we zoom in on the psychology and the ontology of it all, and also to give you more body as a reader, so figure with the uh to stand closer with yourself and also have like a playful mind, uh, and I think we can upgrade what we already do by that, and I think it's somehow evolving with people, yeah, especially in the terrible, and then I'm off front. I hear you saying this, I'm saying this for a while. So I think we go next level to have like a brother's perspective on this. What do you think about that idea? Or is this something strange?

SPEAKER_03 11:08

You can you can say no, it is no, you're right, you're right, you're right. When I was uh Yes, yes, when I was a child, it was very unbridled, it was very raw, it was very chaotic at times because I didn't have any I I was just reading and I would blurt thing out and and and I didn't have any filters, I didn't have any, you know, I would just tell people like immediately and and and whatever comes easy. Later when when with with the with the experience later, I when I found out that uh you know, with my experience of me blurting out and the effect of me blurting out and what the effect is doing, then I started like, okay, I need to calibrate a little bit, maybe I need to say it in this way, best that in this way. And then so yeah, I I evolved. I mean, I'm I'm still evolving and and and and from but reading as a child, actually, it's there is nothing, there is no baggages, there is no thoughts because you have a like a straight connection. I didn't even know it was called Le Normal. I didn't know what it was called. I was just I had these cards and I was using them. I didn't know, you know, it was it was just like a kind of like an open open uh line to to this mainframe, you know. And I just plug, you know, I just plug uh like uh the name of the person, like uh Google, and then I get like you know the things for that person, but I did get hurt a lot because you know I was just very like not everything you see, it's important to say. Sometimes you see things, you know, is it really important? Is it gonna help my client? Is it gonna help them? If it's not gonna help them, then why? You know, you don't need to. So you know, you learn that with the growth and maturity and and all of that stuff. And uh, I do believe that all it's still like an amazing story.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

You have like an amazing profile, it's it's like still like an amazing story. I often say this behind the scenes with Morgan, you know, and I I I can really have like a very rich imagination that you as a young girl during war times like in Lebanon, were like really constant people. Oh, that's something that's that's something that that must be a really hard time, but that there's also a lot of beauty.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

My neighbors would come. I will I can never forget. My neighbors will come, you know, knock on the door, and they have like cakes. And there is I had a Greek neighbor, and I'll never forget. She would always uh bring me upside down pineapple cake for a reading. It was so good. Upside down pineapple cake. It was so good. So when she gives me it's like, okay, I'll go do the reading.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah, so and you you have you have done that the right way because she would come back every time. So that's like the best, the best proof.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

Yes, yes, yes, I yes. I would I would love it. I'd wait for it. Yes, and then you know, cookies and things, they would really bake things and come up, you know? I was like, yeah, I don't know. You know, they they talk to my mom, and then you know, she's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's back from they wait for me to come back from school. So it was uh it was it was interesting, you know. It was I had I had I had fun, but then I had some neighbors that would that would like every day, like every day they need to know, like, okay, is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? Is it now? And I'm like, okay, fine. My mom would be like, and I'm like, okay, I don't know, but I just did it yesterday. It's the same, it's gonna be the same. I just did it yesterday. What's my change? And my mom was like, okay, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

What would you say now? What would you say now, Rana? If someone uh was if I was like calling you and you did not know me, and I was like calling you every day, Rana, can you please consult the cars? What would you say nowadays?

SPEAKER_03 14:44

No, no, no. For me, I I I have um I have like a rule. So I, you know, after I do a reading, because there's a lot that goes in my reading, a lot, a lot. There's so much things that can't happen. So we need enough time to pass and things to change until the next week. So you need to allow yourself to grow and to actually understand the reading, and and that takes time. It's not like you know, you get a reading and and that's it, you forget. No, no, there is like there's a lot that goes on with my reading. So it depends on every case, but usually eight months to my next reading. I think one person, because I had a certain case and I felt, I felt it's okay. So it was six months, but usually eight months to a year, I need things to develop, I need things to change. And unless I can tell that that person, like so many things have changed in their life, then then you know I can make an exception. But usually, usually I would say like around 90% of the time, eight months to a year for uh the next reading. Definitely, definitely you can. But when you have somebody close to you, like my late husband, for example, if he wants to know about his job, I'm doing that grand tableau every week. I can't say no. That's the thought, you know. He was like, you know, when he when he wanted every every week while I'm doing the Grand Tableau. Okay, oh, let me see. You know, show me the Grand Tableau. Okay, yeah. Special treatment. You know, you don't, yeah, it's because you know, so if you have like, you know, but I don't recommend of course I do not recommend for you to do this. No, no, no, no. Because I did this, I know it's gonna be the same. So I'm you know, it's like wasting the person's energy and my energy, and you know, I mean it's gonna be like small differences, but usually, you know, 98% out of it's like this, it's it will be the same information because it hasn't been dealt with. You know, you need you need we we need like that that lilies, the gestation period of that lilies is so important that time and and things and divine timing and things to mature and grow and and inside of us things to change, you know.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

So time and do you also have certain rules for yourself, Rana? What would you uh for yourself that you just read your your cards one time in a certain time, or do you just take them whenever you feel the necessity to grab them? Or say that again.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Can you repeat that? I didn't I didn't hear you very well.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

So how do you go about for yourself? Do you for yourself have certain rules that you say okay, I should always hold that law or whatever? And I don't know for me anymore, same subject for like also for like a year, or do you do you grab them daily?

SPEAKER_03 17:39

Oh, for me for for no okay. So, like I said in the beginning, when you do this for a for a long time, like a long time, the way the way we've been doing, when you do this for a long time, you can do readings. You you you don't need cards, you don't need cards unless there is you know some specificity, like like when I when I do a grand tableau, I want like things like I'm looking for specific specificity, specific specificity. I'm looking for like details for certain details, but generally it's like you know, I I I read I read signs. I read like if I walked outside and saw a clover, I I I get the message. If I if I see like you know a turtle pass by me, for example, or come to my door, or if it's a frog, or I read the animals, I read, I read like there is so much that the whole everything is talking to you all the time. It's and it's not little talk, there it's not like the universe, it's not like no, it's bombarding you with information. You know, if you pay attention, there's so much information that you're getting on you know, daily basis, hourly basis, you're always getting information all the time. So for me, I am, I would say like I my antenna, it took me a very long time to be able to recognize and see and feel and and and and all of that stuff. So now sometimes you wake up and you're like off and your antenna, nothing is working, and you're just like you feel you're not even on this planet, and you're like, ah, you know what's going on, you know. And if I feel like I need some if if I feel like this, because you know, we're human and it happens, you know, you're not always on. I and if I feel I want to do a grand tableau, I'll do a grand tableau if I want certain certain details, but usually probably like it's very, very rare if I did a grand tableau, let's say two months ago for me to do it again. It's very rare, but maybe I'll do once a year for you know, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Yeah, interesting. It's it's interesting to know your your personal relationship with these cards with your tools, as also what you say that you somehow promote in your book to make that relationship optimal, to optimize.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

But I have I have them always handy, and sometimes I just pull card just for the you know, just for the heck of it. I just want to feel like okay, let me pull card. And uh, you know, so I'm always like they're always in my hand. They're always in my hands. I'll pull cards, I'll feel yeah, I'll do whatever, I'll do whatever. If I have a book in front of me, any type of books, you know, I'll just open it and do bibliomancy, you know, and I'll go like, oh, okay. So I'll I'll do whatever. I keep it fun, I keep it interesting, I keep it, you know. I honestly I don't think about it, you know. I just whatever comes, whatever I feel, I just do. I just follow, I just follow, I learned, I learned. And this is why I say, like with the between grand tableaus, you need you need time to walk down that specific path, and then to see a new path appear on a grand tableau. You need to have finished that other path, you know what I mean? And then unless I say there is something drastic that happened in your life, so when something drastic happened, the the the life path shifts. And this is this is where I found from experience how sometimes the shift can be like so big that the person's life all changed, but this only happened when your routine is nothing like it, like you're a different person now. This is this is gonna be a drastic change, but other than that, usually the path is the same because we are creatures of of of of routine, of patterns. We have the same patterns, we have the same way of like we stick to to a certain pattern because we do it every single day. And when you have a the certain you know pattern going, that path is like clear when you pull the cards or you pull, you know, your your your uh charms or you know, anything that you want to look into it, it's very clear. So it's only when something comes and disrupts that pattern, then then you Skip a lane or you go up a lane or you know, and things change. This is what I've found out so far. And you know, like I said, I'm still learning. So so far, this is what's what's happening. Maybe next uh next time we talk, I'll tell you, oh, I just discovered this. So who knows, you know, because I'm always discovering, and you know, like you, you know, you're always discovering, you're always learning, especially if you are learning path. So you always like have uh light bulbs opening new here and here and here.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

So it's always like you know, there's always that's that's why they always say, yeah, if you have like the aha uh moments, aha moment is like a mystical experience because you feel wonderful, if you feel uh yeah, surprise.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

You couldn't watch a movie and and you're like, and then something and the movie could be nothing about spirituality or something, it would be like one sentence in the movie that triggers something to move the somewhere to open a door to light a light bulb, and then you're like, Oh, you can watch a reel on your Instagram, and then you're like, Oh, you know, so yeah, and then exactly. So that's why when you're more in tune, when you when you do this a lot, you start, you know, feeling and picking up on the on all of that stuff because it becomes of you part of you. It's not, it's not again, it's not I repeat that, it's not something that oh, I'm doing this, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 23:23

They're very clever. So everyone who has not yet bought the book, you know, you definitely should buy it because yeah, it's not just the techniques, but it's also how to go about, you know, these are like big two very important factors to to make the best use of the particular noise.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Yes, and you can use it really for every. I mean, this is I I I love that I see some of my you my students will tell me, you know, I love this technique, and and I'm using it on on tarot, and it's amazing. I'm like, yes, it's on everything, and everything, because you know, every technique is not just for the you know, when you're like rigid rigid, it's helpful to become in tune. And also, also I encourage people to you know, yes, this is this is uh very comprehensive, but at the end of the day, you know, follow this, but then you come up with your own things. This is so important because when you start like you you start practicing, practicing with this, then the more you practice, you know, you're supposed to like jump, you know, become become your own, like your own spirit, you know, your own spiritual person, your own, how do you say, because you're gonna unlock things that it's only for you, like that. I mean, I don't have what you have, you know. And and so I just give you the the the the the how do you say the the foundation, you know, but then you design your own structure, you design your own how things work for you, how things do for you. For example, you know, like and and and the thing keeps evolving, it keeps evolving. For example, you know, I don't think I I have that in my in my book because it's been coming the tower, for example, you know, when you know mentioned that the tower came up as as hoarding the other day, hoarding, and this is like wow, you know, and it makes sense, it does make sense. Is it le Normand? It's not it, it is it is it's whatever you are, you know what I mean? Le Normand is symbols, and it's like you know, just yes, you can use it, it's an amazing tool, you know. But I I do have utmost respect of the tradition of Le Normand because you know I came from the tradition of Le Normand, and it it's uh it's very important, whatever symbol or meaning that the person connects with, and whatever system the person connects with. This is why this is so uh people like really should not take it as a like a school, like you know, that mentality of studying. It should be more of uh, you know, like a flow. It's more of a flow of the of things, and it's okay you let things in. It's okay if if your intuition, you know, when you're doing a reading, and and then you know, I got the tower, and it's like, okay, so it's usually, you know, the tower is the institution, is the school, is uh university, is is is uh, you know, rigidity is is all these red tapes, is all the the um the how do you say uh boundaries that you put. And I always see like the tower, like the the the uh emperor card of of entero. You know, it looks like the emperor card, but uh, you know, when I saw it the other day as the four of uh coin, the guy that's sitting like this, and and then you know, and then you know, holding the coin like this and not letting go. I I don't like wow, you know, like the four, it's it's the the four of the um the emperor, but also it could come like the four of coins, you know, like the uh and all this everything we use it all mirror each other so much, and we always want to separate things and and and put things in categories, and but it doesn't work that way. Everything, you know, everything is on this is one ocean. Yes, yeah. This is because I was late and it wasn't working, and then I was having technical difficulties. I'm like, I oh no, you it's good.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

No, it's kind of like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Yeah, we have to we have to round it up anyway because uh I need to see my patients. Maybe Morgan, you have to uh still like a last question uh for uh for Rana.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Well, there was a a question that someone watching asked. That's what I was trying to interrupt before. They wanted to know like what you're what okay, oh yeah, what you would suggest somebody starting who's never done the system before because this person's never even touched the system before. What would you do to start? Where would like what would you start? How would you start? If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Get my book and get my deck and start playing. That's it. Follow, follow. I have like how you start and and how you can do like your your daily and just having fun, you know, just you know, pulling cards just for the you know, for the heck of it. Like I just pulled here, you know, let's see for for that person. And and here I have the house, you know, and the house is like being comfortable, you know, it's like the stability, but but it's more than you know, it's more like uh than than just be comfortable. Be it's like, you know, being in your house, being comfortable, being like all cool, wearing your you know, sweats, and you know, but uh really it works on whatever that costs to you, whatever, you know, whatever you have to you have to feel it and and and and enjoy. I hope I you know is that is that uh yeah, she said thanks with the smiley face.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Yeah, yeah, great answer. Thank you, thank you very much for your time. I I have to go, thank you very much. I wish you a lot of success with your book. So we'll have to schedule another one.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

You know.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Oh yeah. So I have to go, thank you very much. Thank you for uh for your precious time, really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Thank you. I apologize for the technical difficulty. Thank you for having me. I love you know seeing you guys, and um we go way back, so it's uh it's gonna it's uh it's cool because we we have history, you know. So it's it's it's thank you, and again, I uh apologize for the technical difficulty that's no worries.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

Yeah, no, thank you for being here, and we'll definitely do part two. Yeah, I'm sure we always get questions in the week, so part two.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Thank you so much, and have a wonderful summer. Oh, you shall thank you very much. Thank you so much.