The Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kēfla and Cree

From Calm Kits To Concert Nights: Marriage, Mental Health, And Manners

• Kefla and Crecia • Season 1 • Episode 15

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The week starts with small comforts—a heavy hoodie, calm kits for families, rain on the windshield—and quickly widens into the bigger work of care. We swap stories from busy school trainings, a slow nail salon day, and the kind of teacher compliment that fills a bucket at just the right time. Then we open up about a real health scare, the stats around Black men and preventive care, and what it feels like to navigate screenings, sciatica pain, and surprise medical bills without losing momentum or hope.

Joy shows up loud under stadium lights. We break down a Brandy and Monica tour that delivered nostalgia and new moments, from Maya’s precision to Kelly Rowland’s command to surprise guests that kept the crowd buzzing. We also keep it real about tiny wings and $25 cocktails, and why simple planning like prepaid parking can rescue a night. The throughline is community—thousands of voices singing, the DJ stitching decades, and that shared hush before a chorus hits.

We get candid about standards in a world that prizes comfort. A viral Zoom fail turns into a reminder to dress like you might need to stand. In schools, we push back on blankets and pajama pants in class, not to be harsh, but to prepare kids for the rooms they’ll enter later—interviews, restaurants, shared spaces that demand presence. Relationships make redirection easier; consistency makes it stick. And our “Believe It, Sista” segment lands heavy with a heartbreaking child abandonment case that underlines why policies, reporting, and foster supports matter.

If you love warm honesty, a little concert glow, and practical steps for healthier habits and higher standards, you’re in the right place. Hit follow, share this with a friend who needs a nudge to book that screening, and tell us: where do you draw the line between comfort and respect? Your stories help shape the next conversation.

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The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.

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Welcome back, you guys. Thank you for tuning in to the Refreshly Normal Podcast. I am Kifla.

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I am Lucretia.

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And we are a married couple of 22 glorious years.

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22.

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Yes. And we're only going to get better each year. She stays around. So um let's get on to it. Okay. You see, I got my sweatshirt on today. This is a, even though we're not sponsored, I'm gonna put it out there. This is a comfort sweatshirt. And you know, comfort sweatshirts are thick sweatshirts. They're um thicker and heavier than usual. Uh-huh. Than normal, you know, uh sweatshirts. And the reason being is because they are to provide extra comfort for those that may be going through anxiety or whatever. Not necessarily saying I'm going through anxiety, but I am a mental health professional. Um and I uh love wearing things like this. I love hoodies, I love sweatshirts. And my wife says I'm going through anxiety, and you probably are right. And there is a root cause to my anxiety, and a lot of uh things grow due to the roots being close to them. And roots have to be alive in order for things to grow. So I guess that my root cause is alive and close to me, which is why my anxiety is growing.

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Well, just like he said in that 22, I guess I better not stick around.

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I didn't say not stick around, did I?

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Yeah, you said she's still gonna stick with me or something. You say it.

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See, listening skills. That's our next topic of discussion. How to improve your spouse's listening skills. Um, but no, how uh has your week been?

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Um my week has been busy.

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Yeah. And uh lots of trainings and stuff, right? Yeah. High school, elementary, well, middle school in the elementary this week this week.

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Nope. No elementary, um, I think mainly middle and teachers. So I have that's the toughest one sometimes. So that, and then um creating calm kits for parents for families, and creating, I'm trying not to do because I noticed in the last time I did that a lot.

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What? Yeah, you yeah.

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So I'm very now aware, and I'm not gonna do so much of that.

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I'm gonna say it now. One day we're gonna be able to provide comfort sweatshirts as prizes for your calm kits when you're training.

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Ooh, that was a good one.

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I'm putting it out in the world in the atmosphere because one day comfort is gonna rock with us.

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All right. I almost did it. That is gonna be that is gonna be hard not to do.

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It is, but hey.

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Anyways, um, so I did calm kits for families. Um, then I had to make quite a bit of calm kits for classrooms, so it was a busy week um doing all the things that are part of my J O B. And it was cold and rainy.

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Yeah.

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So going in and out and traveling through from schools to schools, it was just a yucky yucky um week.

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So it sucks for you this week because this is actually the kind of weather that we do like. You know, when it's called, you know how you will say, Oh, this is, you know, I can come home and relax weather or you know, but you know, I thought about that when I had to help you like load your stuff up. And I was like, Oh, she don't even really get to enjoy this because she got to go out in this.

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Yes, I had to go out in it, packing up my car with my all my stuff that goes in my wagon. So yeah, it was kind of yucky yucky to be in and out of all the elements this week. But I got everything done. And um one of my trainings, a teacher came to me and she said What she said.

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I know what she said.

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She said, I'm so grateful for you coming and giving us this content because it's like so needed for kids, and I'm so happy about that. She said, but I just have to tell you what she said. She said the C word. You are just so classy. I'm so classy. She said, You're you are very good at what you do, but I mean, you are just so classy. I said, Okay, girl, thank you. So, anyways, um that her coming over and kind of feeling my bucket um was the highlight of my week.

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Now, another highlight, reveal your uh why your nail color.

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Um, I like my nail color. So last week I got, or not last week, but last time I got my nails done. Right. I got the cat eye, but this time I got a red cat eye.

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Keep them still one time, just in case somebody wants to zoom in on their phones or whatever.

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So my nail nail.

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If you were to describe it for those driving, what would you describe it as well?

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I would describe it as it's married, it looks like a marble nail. Like, you know how marbles look, and you kind of turn them. It looks 3D-ish, and then you can see the when the light hits it, you can see the design in it. So my nail lady, Miss Kimmy, did that for me. She likes to, she's very creative.

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Yeah.

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So when she they make the design, like whatever's in the nail polish, they take a little magnet, and then the magnet moves the lighting thing in the nail polish.

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So it has some kind of metallic stuff to it.

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Yeah, and she can make the designs with the little magnet thing, and then you stick it in the uh UV light thing, and you have to yeah, it's like it's not like a dry light.

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I was like, I always wonder what do what are y'all sticking in.

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It's a UV light that sets the polish.

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Okay.

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So it it dries it, but however, whatever is yeah, and so you have to directly put it in there after because if not, it loses its uh the metallic.

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Oh, so then they start probably going back to whatever. Uh yeah.

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So you got it. So she does nail by nail. So she'll do this one, and I gotta stick it in. So she goes to the other hand and do it, and then so you have to do it that way.

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I wonder how many people don't.

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Don't what?

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Like, I I are there anybody that is there anyone that does it and it's like, oh, now put your hand in my uh, it ain't working out right.

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I don't know maybe I don't know.

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Because you know how some people try to date a garage nail text, you know what I mean? And they say, I could do that, you know, and they probably not realizing that hey, if you do one, you know, at a time, it sets it.

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Yeah, though that's how she does hers. And so it was really um when I went to the nail shop this week, I was the only one, maybe one other lady. They were so slow.

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Was this Thursday or Wednesday?

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I went on Thursday.

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Thursday, it wasn't raining.

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It was just cloudy and cold.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But there wasn't any rain. It was just cloudy and cold. And I said, My goodness, I said, has it been a slow week? And they said it would have been a slow week. And um, I asked, do they get paid like an hourly rate? And she says, No, they get paid by the number of customers they see. So um, yeah, so anywho, if you notice that you're a nail lady, it's been a slow week for them. I don't know if you really like them, give them a little bit a little more love, huh? A little better tip or something, just um because they get paid by the number of clients, not hourly rate. I didn't know that.

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Because I'm sure it wasn't just the sh the shop, you know what I mean? If you know, if it was that empty.

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And I mean That was really weird to me.

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But, you know, I will admit too, like even the grocery store the other day was kind of empty. Um, but everybody's kind of, you know, afraid, not knowing what's happening. Do I need to, you know, s hold on to my coins a little longer than I normally would.

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And you and then people are putting myths out there. Like my mama told me, she said, Oh, you be careful going to the grocery store because this uh one of my customers came in and said that um you when um you go out and put your groceries in your car, is people following you to your house or to take your groceries? To take your groceries. I said, now mama.

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That ain't the groceries she's talking about. I said, I don't think that's stealing those groceries in sticks.

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No, I said, I don't think that's so. I said people are just making up things because of what's currently happening, depending on where you at, though. But I was I would think that I think that that could possibly be a possibility. Definitely, I'm not quite sure if that's happening now right now. Because for me personally, if I didn't have food, I mean I'd rather I don't know if I want somebody else's groceries. No matter. I guess if you're hungry, you take a few.

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You're hungry, you're hungry, right?

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But she said, um, she says to me, I go, Mama, uh, somebody that made that up. But anyways, um, I don't think that is not a possibility, but I I'm not quite sure.

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Pray that it doesn't get to that point.

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Yes, that it's happening like the way she described it to me.

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They bring neighborhoods to this house trying to take some groceries. They're gonna get some groceries, all right.

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Well, the one thing for us is we don't do like a big grocery haul because we uh decide every couple of days what we're gonna do. But yeah, anywho, I just thought that was funny that she said that to me. I was like, I don't know about that.

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They'll put our groceries back. It's just too healthy.

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What a treat's that broccoli and and chicken thighs. What a treat. What a sweets. Yeah, they would be disappointed in ours. So, anyways, that's how my week was. How was your week?

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My week was good. Um as far as the job. Um, knocked out another IEP. Um, you know, I'm getting I'm there. Um didn't go to the gym at all because my sciatic, you know, is acting up uh very, very bad. I can only stand for about man, less than five minutes before it starts hurting. And so I have to sit down and uh I want to go to the gym. I went to the doctor and the doctor said everything was health-wise was good, you know, um, besides uh, you know, just the sciatica. And I had a uh, you know, I was scared, had a scare. Um and I'll share it uh because I had uh I saw some blood in my stool. And the reason why I'm sharing this is because uh black males, um, we have this and it's statistics, you know, we and it's a fear that black men have about going to the doctor um and getting the important checks such as the prostate checks and the uh uh colon, you know, rectal uh testing screenings. Um but I know that uh polyps and things like that runs in my family. Um so you know, I've had digestive issues forever. Like I'm not your average go poop everyday person, you know. I'm uh once every three, four days and sometimes longer than that person. And so, you know, and recently my stomach has been uh upset, um just real bloated. And so uh that day, you know, we noticed and and it scared me. And the crazy thing about it, I was so scared in the uh bathroom that I was trying to gather my thoughts on how to tell you. Because I was like, I can't say nothing, but I have to say something. It would be selfish if I just go to the doc and don't say anything. You know, and so um I stayed in there. You did, you did. I and I and I knew you would because of the fact that it was and I think and I know that you know that it's serious if I say something and you look at me to see how you should react.

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And I can tell you were worried.

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Yeah, and so um, you know, so I went to the doctor for that, and um they said that it it, you know, several things that they it could be. Um we went and did I did blood work and things like that. All my blood work came back stellar. Um my blood pressure was up a little bit, but that was because I was in the doctor's office because before then it was like real, you know, real good. Um but she said that's just because you're in here right now. Um so don't stress it. Um but I mean, just you know, go get tested, get checked. I mean, I had my annual early, it was in June. So, you know, I was like, let me get my blood work again. And she this this new doctor uh very, very thorough. Um, you know, and to my knowledge, everything's good. So now we're just working on the sciatical pain. Um to see how we can fix that, and that's physical therapy and pain management that I have to go to. Um it's expensive, you know, when you go into like neurosurgeons, because I had to go to neurosurgery before, and it was so much more. And now what we're realizing is that what our insurance used to pay, they're not paying for as far as you know, x-rays and stuff like that.

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But I want to check in on that because sometimes people could file things wrong.

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Yeah, they wrong billing codes.

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Yeah, if that is what's going on. So I'll But it's happening too often.

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You know what I mean? Yeah. But we're seeing it, yeah. We're seeing it all throughout. Like it's like, oh, what? Facial x-rays, uh back x-rays, you know, just different things. All this money is coming back, you know, regular visit, you know, not regular visits, copay, but anything we're going to adopt for that normally we didn't ever see a bill, we're not seeing bills for.

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So And our insurance hasn't changed.

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Yeah, our insurance hasn't changed at all. So that was my weekly scare. Um Like I say, I can't ex you know, express it enough, gentlemen, please go, because I do know um people, you know, I'm 51, uh, but I am a I would say I'm a healthy 51. Um and I work at being healthy. Not just the oh, it's my genes, no, you know, I work at being healthy trying to do right. Um so just make sure. And ladies out there, encourage the person you love to go and get, you know, tested and checkups and all that kind of stuff. Um you know. But uh other than that, my week was like I said, good. It's just this sciatic pain is tough. It it I never, never had it like this before. Never, never. Slept in the recliner two nights. I didn't want to. You know, I like, you know, sleeping by my cold footed uh partner. I was gonna say something else, but we ain't gonna say that. But uh but I wonder what he was thinking. But uh it helped sitting in that recliner and you know, putting ice on it, and they said put ice and then heat and stuff like that. But when I I don't ooh, if y'all had the pain, you know. It's and this is crazy. Like, and I'm I have to stand on my feet and I had to go like to the copy machine, I have to I have to go from my office to the classroom and another classroom, go upstairs to this classroom and go, and I'm walking now like dragging my leg, and it's just it's crazy. When I see students, I'm like, I try to walk without pain. And but other than that, man, you know, my week was okay. But what about last night to cap off our week?

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Last night.

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Where did we go?

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We went to the Boy's Mine tour. Um, that the Can I talk to you for a minute? Yeah.

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You know how to go.

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Yes. You need to have anything. So we went to Brandy and Monica.

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That's right.

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Their show. And uh I'm who was our guest with us? Oh, Anfuga, which is Nicole, our cousin. She came with us to um where were we at? State Farm Arena. State Farm Arena. And um, it was an amazing concert.

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So everything, just the parking was cool, yeah, getting in was cool.

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Yes, I seats were cool.

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It was really cool.

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Thanks to the planner.

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Good job, planner. I'm not a planner.

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So um I got right on. We were able to get great seats. This person was like, You sure we supposed to be going this way to sit down? Yes.

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Yeah.

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So our seats are really good. We had a good view of the stage, and I did the he he reminded me about the parking though, but um, to get the parking pass. And so I got the parking pass um prior to the concert. Um, we got there enough time to um well, because you wouldn't got our food though, but we got our cocktails and everything.

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Um, and so But I didn't the only act that I missed was the guy from American Idol, the one that just won American Idol. He was a he's a PE teacher from Mississippi.

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Yeah, so he sang. He was pretty good. Um, I um I felt a little bad for him, but not really like bad because any exposure for a new artist is great, and there were thousands and thousands of people in there. But when he was on, people were still coming and sitting down and so the shuffle of it all, but he did get an opportunity to do what he needed to do.

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Because there's chops practicing, you know, getting your stage in a stadium.

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I mean, and he was in a stadium, so and he travels with them. Yep, so that's that's a great opportunity. They also had Maya. Um so um she looked good.

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She did. And she's what, 46?

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46, yeah. She looks good, she did well performing, her voice sounded great.

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Yeah, good.

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Um, I was impressed with Miss Maya.

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Great stage presence.

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Yep, great stage presence.

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Not as good as who? Kelly Rowling. You think that's no Maya was good because Maya's used to performing by herself.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? But Kelly just it's just Kelly. Yeah. Yeah. She just had a different, you know, she was confident. Yeah, on well, I ain't even gonna say confident.

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Because Maya was confident. Maya was just a different I think it's because Kelly's with Des been with Destiny's Child and Kelly's It's just different.

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Kelly's stage presence was she was exuding sexiness on the stage with her performance. That's more what it was. Okay. How she would because how she would take the stage and walk and do things and look at folks. Maya was uh had a sexy state, but she was her her performance was like is the performance.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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Well, I think that just comes from the many years Kelly's been with Destiny's Child. I mean, of course she's she's had the opportunity to have the the best, I guess, training, experience, and all that. But so, anywho, so that was the next one. So after Maya, then was Kelly, and Kelly did a good job. And Kelly I'm sorry, rewind.

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I did not know you knew all of those Maya songs.

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Yes, I love Maya.

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I did not know that. Like, I was like, she knows every I'm talking about word for word.

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I love Maya. So that's why when I started going TikTok and I started seeing her, and I was like, wait, is she gonna be with him? So then I even got more excited because I've always liked Maya.

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Yeah, you knew all the stuff.

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Yeah, she's a great dancer, performer. I've always liked her.

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Yeah, I was so mad. Remember when she was on Dancing with the Stars that she didn't get to.

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Yeah, Mario people didn't know her.

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It wasn't that. Oh, you think it's because other people? Right, because Mario was top. He should have won. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, so yeah, she was so good on dancing with the stars. She was a champion. She's just awesome. So that was her, so yeah, I did I did you know all the songs. And then Kelly did great, and she brought out Summer Walker for because Summer Walker used Say My Name in one of her songs.

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Just say my name. Say my name.

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And she came out kind of in a costume. She was a bunny rabbit.

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Yeah, she was a bunny rabbit.

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Sure enough.

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Yeah.

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Or what would they be? Not a bunny rabbit. What were that? What were those two ladies called? Oh, like playmate. Like a playmate.

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Jack Rabbit. You know Jack Rabbit got them big old hind legs.

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She uh, yeah, she came out.

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She had them hind legs on her.

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She came out part of Kelly's thing.

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So that I thought she had background singers with her. That was her hips and booty. That was her hips and booty that she bought. Oh, that ain't no background. There ain't no background dancers. Mm-mm. Ain't nobody moving. I thought somebody background chicken like this. I said, Oh, that's her booty.

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Y'all, she did not even do that much movement. She was just walking around. Slipping singing that song.

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Won't you say my name? Say my name.

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She did not do all that. But it was really good. That was a good surprise. Yeah. And then after Kelly, of course, the ladies, Brandy and Monica, they started the show together. And they did a thing where they both was on the stage, and then one person did they part. And but they had great, like um a video before where they met up like in this corporate building and then took an elevator. And then this elevator actually came up from the floor. The simp that was the same elevator in the video. But they started the show together. So one would sing and do their thing, then the other one would do their thing. What up? The other one would do their thing. And then they went back down. And then they individually came out on the stage.

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And then did a few songs. And uh Brandy had Ray J.

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Yeah, that was her special person with Ray J.

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Y'all give it up for Ray J. She hugged him and then they went down.

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Yeah, but that was a big deal because I remember Ray J was on whose talk whose show was that?

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I forgot who it was.

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He was on somebody's show and they asked him had he um how was his relationship with his sister? And he said they weren't talking about it.

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Yeah, because the question was like, would your sister do something? Oh no, my sister, we ain't even talking right now.

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Uh-huh. So he and his sister. So that's nice to see that they were um were on the stage last night together.

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And then Monica.

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Uh-huh.

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Her first guest was who?

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Who was her first guest?

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Uh, was it her daughter? Oh, her daughter. Her daughter came up and danced with her a little bit.

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Maybe it was her daughter.

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And then Ludacris. Yeah, I didn't think it was Jermaine Dupree.

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He had on this little wig thing.

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It was an unkept uh haircut wig.

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Yeah.

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It like had a little thickness on the side and then like some little curved.

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I wonder what he who he was supposed to be.

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I don't know. A miss. A miss. And he succeeded.

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Mr. A Miss.

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Yeah. First initial uh miss. Last name miss.

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That's what he looks. A miss.

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And so uh he was they did, they did good, of course. Yeah. Because he was talking about y'all know him from Atlanta. And when you from Atlanta, we gotta welcome you properly.

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And then everybody went crazy and he came up and did that thing.

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And then uh Tank came out shirtless and everybody was going crazy. Um I said, boy, let me take my shirt off. Because I remember back in the day when I used to do them little auctions and stuff, and I used to get all that money for everybody. I was a high dollar back there. And but I said, you know what, I let him have his chance. Yeah, let Tank do his thing. Yeah, but his microphone wasn't working right. No. Um, so you could, it was like just out the whole time, pretty much. And after Tank.

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Thank God he had a shirt off.

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Yeah, he can play for something. You know, he did his thing though. Who came up after Tank?

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Uh Missy.

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Yeah, Missy Ellis. She didn't sing, she just walked on the stage.

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Oh, by you. So that was good. She didn't do anything. She just came out and just danced a little bit. She didn't dance. Well, show me she swayed.

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Oh, yeah. Um, and that was it. That was all the guests, huh?

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I think so. And her daughter. Yeah.

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Oh, Brandy had another guest at the beginning. Ortho. The uh the shoes she had. Orthopedic. Uh, I was like, why does she wear these shoes with her fit?

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They probably were some kind of uh brand and style that we are aware of. Somebody knows they had red. Because Monica had on Timberlands on one of those things.

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But they wouldn't look like I zoomed in on Brandy's shoes. I tried to figure out what they were. And they look like they look like uh restaurant shoes. Like the no slick bottle. They might have been, so she didn't fall or nothing. And um, they were, I just felt, you know, hey. No offense.

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But I mean, it wasn't because she needed those kind of shoes. So it must have been some kind of stuff. No, because she had on heels and boots.

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She did, but them, she might have had, they were probably naturalizers. You know, naturalizers now have stylish boots and stuff. Yeah, no, that don't they?

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They do. They do.

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Naturalizers have stylish boots. They too. Naturalizer and sass.

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They do, they too have some sasses.

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Yeah, that's probably what she had. She's older. She said she was older. They had probably had some sasses on.

SPEAKER_01:

They're in their forms.

SPEAKER_03:

To y'all out there, y'all women with naturalizers and sasses on. But she was performing.

SPEAKER_01:

But it yeah, it was a great concert. I sang the night of the city.

SPEAKER_03:

You sure did, child. And the DJ halftime was great too. Uh, you know, when they hyped the crowd up. In between the different instant intermissions and stuff. That was pretty cool. Um, I just love going to a concert with us, man. It's just, we're, you know. And I'm saying us like collectively.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, black folks.

SPEAKER_03:

Cause just when singing the songs and all.

SPEAKER_01:

Everybody knowing that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it's just, it's just, it's crazy. So uh and I'm sure they probably do their other concerts too, you know, the songs. But uh, you know, it's just different. It's so so different. Um it was Pat Hunning. And then they showed this man in the crowd. And he had, I seen this one other time somewhere. I can't remember where I seen it. So he had a mustache. And this man, he looked like uh He looked like it was a woman. I mean he Well, yeah, but that was the guy with uh Is it Earth, Wind, and Fire? The you know I'm talking about the guy with the long perm. He kind of looked like him, Verd Verdeen, I think that's his name. But he had like picture of it.

SPEAKER_01:

He looked like they worm to me.

SPEAKER_03:

And it goes all the way around, like just the lip itself. So it just goes just like this, drawing a circle. It looked like he put his mouth on a uh uh, what I call a do-da-da. D-da-da is, or do, is uh when you get a paper towel roll, and once the paper towel roll is empty, you know what kids you give it to him, they're gonna say, or they hit it on your head and go, do, that's what I call it. So it's a do or a do-da-do. It looked like he put that on his mouth and it and took it off, and it just had a black ring around his mouth.

SPEAKER_01:

No, he looked like to me, not like the Earth Way and the Fireman. He looked like Big Worm if Big Worm's hair was like a wet and wavy bob. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

But he it looked at a m- it looked a mess. What it looked like, y'all might want to cover your ears. It looked like a booty hole. It just had hair right there. And he just looking like that.

SPEAKER_01:

And he looked, and yeah, whoever the cameraman was last night at the concert was was messy. Because he was on purpose trying to find people that a little touched.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that was extra.

SPEAKER_01:

Because uh the he found two red blazers. There were two men that had these blazers on, and I mean they were doing the most, I'm sure they were Monica and Brandy's biggest fans. They probably go to everybody. So they knew every song on everybody's and they they knew the routines and everything.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, they did, they did.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, but yeah, he found the um the most eclectic characters he could find. The camera man did, but he knew exactly what he was doing. It was very comic. It was very comical.

SPEAKER_03:

He got him. Yeah, but we enjoyed it. We enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01:

It was really good.

SPEAKER_03:

But I didn't like we didn't like the wings that J.R. Cricket had some little bitty.

SPEAKER_01:

Are all are J.R. Cricket Crickets wings just that little? I mean, they look like they came off of a Cornish hen.

SPEAKER_03:

Cornish hen is bigger than that, uh-huh. You would say? Look like they came off of a wing part. They came off a Cornish quail. That's what they look like.

SPEAKER_01:

So little.

SPEAKER_03:

Or a hummingbird.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I'm literally like like the flat was like like that.

SPEAKER_03:

And then they're gonna try to say, I bought a catfish. It was$16 for those wings. And then I bought the catfish and fries was uh two fillets of catfish, and it was not catfish.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it was white.

SPEAKER_03:

It was whiten. And I don't it would though you can tell by the the the uh texture and the flavor. Why we do this to us?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I mean? Catfish. It's not catfish. So I wish you well in your endeavors, but I also wish that something makes you do right. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't and then I also don't understand this. I know, well, I do understand because when you go to um Disney World or to uh sporting or concerts, I just don't understand the price of the cocktails. It doesn't, well, I literally have to be able to I got um a whiskey sour double, which means two shots, twenty-five dollars for for that.

SPEAKER_03:

You gotta make money for that, pay for that bill or nothing.

SPEAKER_01:

No, uh yeah, it ain't about making money.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, no, because the taxpayer we already paid for.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, the thing about it, yeah, is it's just that because they can.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And they know you're gonna be there and they know you're gonna want to drink.

SPEAKER_03:

Just like with anything, prices are up for no reason.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But I think personally, if the prices were lower, they would make more money because people would buy more than just one. After you see$25, like my drink for the night. I mean, that's what that's what people will do.

SPEAKER_03:

Because, yeah, if you think about it, if you if it let's say if they were people would go, oh, I'm gonna give me a drink. Because there's a middle. Then once you get about two or three drinks, you say you can get three, because I can get three, you know, for still less than on what I'm getting two.

SPEAKER_01:

And then by that time, you feeling real good. You might go for more. You might go get some more and not realize you didn't spend$100. Yep, because you didn't forget. And now you won't get something to eat.

SPEAKER_03:

I need something to eat because I'ma buy me some souvenirs now. Then they buy some souvenirs, and then they get into like, I shouldn't have bought none of that. So yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So anyway.

SPEAKER_03:

But yeah, they are they are pricey. But uh, well, that was our week.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that was our week. It was really good. I was trying to think of anything else, but yeah, that's about it.

SPEAKER_03:

That's about it, Chick. That's it. The leaves are starting to change and fall, so that's good.

SPEAKER_01:

The one thing I wanted to do in the fall that we didn't get to do because we missed it, I did want to try to do the um we missed the fainting goat. I wanted to do that.

SPEAKER_03:

But we did the picnic on in the vines at the fainting goat.

SPEAKER_01:

Because it took the leaves a little while longer to turn this time because to me they're just turning down, but the last time for the picnic is like the the last weekend in October. And so e either way, you wouldn't have got it wouldn't have been like it was that time we went because it took the leaves a while to turn. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

No. So I just saw something today. What was it today? No, last night, this guy, this is young black dude, and he he talks about like agriculture and stuff, and he was like, when y'all raking your leaves and um you're you're doing your trees a disservice because while they're green, they're developing nutrients. So when they fall to the ground, and those nutrients are broken down into the ground to allow for the grass. And you said it about leaves?

SPEAKER_01:

Keep going. Yeah, when you said that. And you told me that wasn't so. Because they kill your grass. That's what you told me.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, they do kill your grass.

SPEAKER_01:

But now, if the tree needed for nutrients, it's just the tree, but not the grass.

SPEAKER_03:

The tree needed for nutrients.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So what I'm saying is, I'm gonna start raking my leaves up to the tree. Oh, okay. Yeah, instead of just leaving them on the grass. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because I know plenty of places like you go and people don't rake their leaves up, and that grass be brown. Oh, okay. Yeah, under there. And it die out. Oh, okay. And they ain't got time for that. Too expensive.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And that may, that may keep our roots from crumbing up more because the roots probably coming up higher because they're enough nutrients in the soil.

SPEAKER_01:

That might be something.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I'm saying? And it'll cut it'll cost, it'll be coverage and follow it.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

But all right, let's get down to it. Um, so I love our little uh question segment. Do you want to do question segment or you want to do some stories in the news?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, what we have been doing is doing the stories in the news and then the questions.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, go ahead. Um, I got uh brain fall, ADHD, post-COVID. Yeah, everything is sciatica. You know, let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, okay, so we have several stories that we're doing.

SPEAKER_03:

Which one you want to do first? Um you wanna want me to play the little clip about the officer?

SPEAKER_01:

Are you ready? Is the clip ready?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, I could get it ready.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

You know, while we're doing this.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, so we have a clip of an officer. Mm-hmm. Tell me what he did. I to my understanding, you could tell me if I'm wrong. You're wrong. Uh he had to go before a judge because he had a drunk driving thing.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know what he had to go for. I didn't even pay attention.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so I believe he had like a drunk driving thing.

SPEAKER_03:

Reckless driving, and yeah, in public intoxication case.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and so he had to go to court.

SPEAKER_03:

Detroit he was an officer.

SPEAKER_01:

Detroit police officer, I think last name Jackson.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, and so he had to go to court via Zoom.

SPEAKER_03:

So here it is. Uh a Detroit police officer left a judge speechless when he showed up for a Zoom hearing wearing his uniform top and badge, but no pants. Officer Matthew Jackson from the Detroit Police Department appeared in a 36th district court via Zoom on Monday for a reckless driving and public intoxication case, according to a video of the hearing posted to YouTube. However, when Mr. Jackson appeared on camera, he was wearing his official police button-up uniform shirt, badge, and boxers, but no pants. So let's hear a clipping of that. A snip.

SPEAKER_00:

Jackson, good morning to you. Can you put your appearance on the record, please?

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, Officer Jackson, bath number 3919. All right.

SPEAKER_00:

You got you got some hands on sure. No, sir. Officer Jackson. Um okay, Miss Lee.

SPEAKER_01:

So Officer Jackson didn't realize he had his camera down too low.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he didn't.

SPEAKER_01:

But I don't understand why he didn't know because if he was looking and looking at himself, he would see. Wait, I can see my drones.

SPEAKER_03:

Let me tell you why.

SPEAKER_01:

Why he why didn't he use drawing?

SPEAKER_03:

Come on now. Officer Jackson was still intoxicated. Officer Jackson intoxicated.

SPEAKER_01:

And he had on his police officer uniform at the top and sitting there in his box.

SPEAKER_03:

Sitting like this here, like wide open, like he was ready to get in the game.

SPEAKER_01:

Then once he realized they knew, then he moved.

SPEAKER_03:

That one lady, the video, that lady looking like.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that his drum?

SPEAKER_03:

I think she's like the court reporter or whatever. She's looking like. And then that's when the uh the uh judge he been looking at this is it. Wait, and it's not like he was about to say, what cuz? Yeah, cuz you got I mean, Jackson, you got some uh you got pants off. So on top of that, leads me into a question for you. Yes. Um, you know, the world has changed with Zoom, and and and and uh we heard that story originally on The Breakfast Club. We listen to it every morning. Um have there ever been a time with all these Zooms and whatever there is, well, even like when because you know you was doing um Oh, my lessons.

SPEAKER_01:

Counseling lessons.

SPEAKER_03:

Counseling lessons, and you you was doing a uh appearing uh you you you helped Sharita at classrooms. Oh, yeah. Stuff when Sharita teaches at uh US University of Southern California, she uh you are her guest speaker a lot of times.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

And you were doing therapy sessions. Um remember from with her in Jersey therapy sessions. And a lot of those were evening times after you know your exercise and you took a shower real quick. So has there ever been a moment where you were business at the top and party at the bottom or business at the top and relax at the bottom?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, no, uh I don't know because I always think if you get up unexpectedly, um especially well when I did my counseling lessons, I was up and moving because I want that was like my way of keeping the students engaged in the lessons because it was tough for them at home. Yeah so no, I always got fully like together and dressed for my things. I don't do the the top and bottom separate things. Yeah. Um with the clients, um now sometimes for them it didn't really matter. Yeah, you didn't have to be dressed up, so that wasn't a big deal. So I could have on a t-shirt and sweats or something like that. That wasn't like um a big deal in regards to that. Yeah. Now, the one thing I will say with some of my clients, when they would log on, they would be laying in the bed.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And so I'm like, are you laying in the bed?

SPEAKER_03:

I noticed that in my class when we were doing the um um not my group therapy sessions, but you know, a group therapy class. But like some we would have um, like we had to do, I think it was a suicide class. I mean not suicide class, a suicide course, um, like a 45-minute course, and then something else. And it was like a lot of people. And then they asked you questions and stuff. So you have people in the dark, you know, you have people, dogs and cats laying right there on their shoulder, and like one person out there on the patio, his and you could see his whole thing, his flip flops and feet kicked up, and stuff like that. And so I was like, you know what, to each his own, I guess. You know?

SPEAKER_01:

I guess.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I never did the party. Even when I did my dissertation, uh, my defense, uh uh, when I did my defense for my doctorate, uh, I had on a whole suit.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

A whole suit. But all they could see was right here.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03:

But I had on a whole suit, and um I was, you know, just trying to make sure that I was ready for whatever too.

SPEAKER_01:

Um But I think you you you to me, yes, it is virtual, but to me, you should be prepared as if you were in that setting. Yeah. I I just think it should be that way. If you are a client in my office. Yeah, it's your child and his girlfriend.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so um, if you have a client and my client is in my office, you're not gonna be laying down under the covers.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So that part, we're not um doing that.

SPEAKER_03:

But you let me let me tell you this. Let me go back. I guarantee you you're gonna see more of it if we ever have to do more virtual. Because what do you see when you walk around? I don't know if you see it when you walk around.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I see it when I come to the high schools. They they have covers.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, blankets.

SPEAKER_01:

They will have blankets with them, some of the um no real shoes, like house shoes, slippers. They might be the Ug slippers. Um, I see pajama pants.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Pajama pants.

SPEAKER_03:

So they'll be in it, they'll be in the classroom, head on the desk, covered like this. And I and you know, I'll be like, hey, get up, get up, get up. Take your hood off, take your, you know, take your bonnet off, take your blanket off. You know, sit up. And uh they upset that you tell them to do that. But some teachers don't want to.

SPEAKER_01:

They just don't want to cause an issue. They're fighting their battles.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, they don't want the confrontation. That's not a battle they want to find out. It's not a bad no, but it's regardless, you It's not, it should be an expectation. Exactly. So if you do it often enough, and they now they know this is the expectation coming in, and there's no wavering from it. I don't care what everybody else in their classes do, they know this is the way it's done here.

SPEAKER_01:

And I think to me, it's about I I know y'all have heard me talk about building relationships, but when you build relationships with students, then you can have those conversations with them and say, listen, yeah, you are coming to school. If you want to wear something comfy, get some sweatpants. But this whole blanket thing, we are not doing a blanket.

SPEAKER_03:

So should okay, so I know you're saying building a relationship. I know we kind of jumping off a little bit, but outside of the relationship, it still should be, it still should be happening, right? You don't have time to build a relationship.

SPEAKER_01:

What do you mean? Like, if I tell you, hey, our policy says no blankets here, um, so you don't have a relationship with that kid, and so what what are you know I mean you could I mean you still say the things, but that's why I say it makes it easier, it it it will be less um, I don't say it's not controversial, but when when they're afraid of what the less back and forth back and forth is gonna be. Let's back and forth if you have a relationship. Yes, that's what that's what I'm saying. But if no, a policy, a policy is a policy. But first, let's not even get to the school part. Let's get to the coming out the house part.

SPEAKER_03:

Why you coming out of the house like that?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, who dropped you off? Who saw you walk out the house with pajama pants, slippers, and a blanket? Because if you were in my car and I was dropping you off at school, oh you can leave that blanket.

SPEAKER_00:

Leave that blanket here.

SPEAKER_01:

You you can leave that blanket right here. Um, if you were coming out of my house in the morning, going to school, and if you let's say, because I know for our boys, we were going to work at high school and then they they got themselves ready, you know, to go to school, drive themselves to school, or but then some before they could drive, they rode with you. But anywho, if I came home, and then you walk in the door, and I'm like, that's what you wear at school.

SPEAKER_03:

We gotta talk, yeah. We gotta talk.

SPEAKER_01:

So I just think that's just we have to um teach them those things. Cause I think for me, it's okay with being comfortable. I get that. I mean, the sweatpants, tennis shoes, you know, that's fine.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's just not appropriate to wear bed clothes. Um blame period. No, you that that's that's just unacceptable.

SPEAKER_03:

And and and most people, you know, are tripping. Why? Because we're trying to teach a standard. Because and and why I'm saying that to say this is because at the the and I've seen that in these kids, they get comfortable doing so, and then when it's time for us to have a banquet or have whatever, and and I don't want to pe hear people say, what if they can't afford it? Listen. And I'm not counting nobody's pockets. Okay, so stop asking for pajamas and ask for maybe some sweatpants.

SPEAKER_01:

Leggings. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, there are inexpensive shoes that you can get. You know, there are things. There, you know, um, so if you can't afford it, what if your job requires you to wear some kind of business attire? I'm just saying. Okay? So you you know, you don't get your check paid immediately. So if we kind of teach these kids how to dress and how to uh, you know, come to an interview, you're gonna come to an interview in your uh pajamas.

SPEAKER_01:

And a bonnet.

SPEAKER_03:

But what happens is, listen to this, they actually do come unprepared. They actually do go out in these uh casual or business casual environments or business uh formal environments dressed inappropriately because not necessarily they weren't taught, but because they weren't um held accountable to do better. They were told so, but they chose to do this because this is what I want to do. And then, you know, when it's a a certain setting, they actually try to come there, and then they say, Oh, they just tripping. So I'm just saying, you know, um, if you are in the power, have the power to do so with kids and inform them, look, you know, let's make sure we dress appropriately and teach them why you're doing this so they won't just think you're bullying, you know, or you're just trying to show your flex your parental muscle or you know, and part of it to me, what happens also at schools why you do get the back and forth is because there isn't consistency.

SPEAKER_01:

I can go to Miss Jones' class and she doesn't say anything to me about it. Then I go to Dr. Hare's class and he's like uh But let me And so with with that that's when you end up getting the back and forth because they feel like well Dr. Hare just picking on me because I done went all day with these with this and nobody said a thing.

SPEAKER_03:

But and this is what I tell them. I say, okay, what's the speed limit on the interstate? They'll say 60. What's the speed limit in front of the school? 35? Exactly. What goes on one spot may not go on in the other spot. So if in my classroom, this is what we do in their classroom, it's probably what they do. So understand where you're going and understand the rules are accordingly. So I don't want to hear that. Well, they don't. Okay, you take your butt in front of this school, drive 65, or when the um police right there and the um school zone. See what happened.

SPEAKER_01:

That reminds me of this principal that was on TikTok and he was having uh kind of like a parent workshop, I think is what it was. And he was saying that parents do their children a disservice when you don't um prepare them for being able to behave in multiple spaces, not just your home. You have to think about when you're parenting them what would what what kind of behavior do they need at school, what kind of behavior do they need out in a restaurant, what kind of behavior do they need in the movies? What kind of behavior do they need if they go into the shopping at a grocery store? Um, and so parents need to think about um when they are raising and doing all the things for their children, how to prepare them to be able to behave and um and appropriate in more places than just your home. So when they come to school and there are rules and there and they have to be, and expectations because there are 24 kids in a classroom or however many kids in a classroom. So you have to have some type of order and expectation so that those um that you're that as parents, you have to understand that so that when your child can't meet the expectation, and we've expressed it to you, and we we're working with your child, but there is no change or shift, then we have to go with policy. Right. And if policy means your child has to go home, then see you later, Pleo. Yes, and so I love that he said that just the part about raising your children and thinking about their behavior, not just in your home. Right. If you took them from your home and you went other places, would they be all right?

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Would they be appropriate? So I just love that he shared that with parents because that's just such a great tip for parents to think about.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, let's move on to the next. And we didn't even get to the part that I wanted to talk about. About uh have we experienced because I've experienced some crazy stuff online, but we'll talk that another day, another time. What is the the other story we wanted to talk about?

SPEAKER_01:

Was it about the this was the um new segment? Yes, he has a new segment that he's created, but it's in honor of Colitha Johnson.

SPEAKER_03:

Colitha Johnson, Colete.

SPEAKER_01:

Colleet, that's one of my best friends. Um she um I always will, if she and I are talking, and I said, I just can't believe it, Colleen. And she said, believe it, sister.

SPEAKER_03:

So So this segment is called Believe It System. All right, believe it, sister, and believe it, sister is uh will be stories that we will hear from time to time that people will be like, I can't believe that. And then when you say I can't believe that, what you gonna say?

SPEAKER_01:

Believe it, sister.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, so shout out to Khalit.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, so there um are these parents, they are par two parents to a 12-year-old son.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um the son went to school, yeah. Um came home and realized, came home, they lived in an apartment. The parents had packed up.

SPEAKER_03:

You're reading the summary, you're just gonna tell it. Oh, I'm just gonna go. No, you can always say you can go ahead.

SPEAKER_01:

The parents had packed up and moved.

SPEAKER_03:

My buddy was in school.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm talking about packed up the whole apartment, moved out, and left him. But here is the crazy part. The baby knew when I first read it, and it said he went to school, back to school, um, went straight to his principal, all this. I was like, hey, I wonder how he knew, like, that's what I was supposed to do. Yo, you want to know why this baby knew to do that? Because this is not the first time they done packed up and left him. Yeah. So that's why he knew what to do. And so um, they this is repeated behavior for them. They trying to find, I guess, a time where he won't find them and nobody will find them. And so they lied and told the police or the school they had told the their her brother. The mom said her brother, his uncle was supposed to pick him up, but when they called the uncle and aunt, they were like, No, this is the first we've heard of it. This is the first we've heard about this.

SPEAKER_03:

Picking them up from school.

SPEAKER_01:

So they got um CPS involved. Of course, CPS filed um charges of neglect and all of that.

SPEAKER_03:

But they released them, him to them. The boyfriend. Yeah, the boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, the bo okay. Yes. Like if you read it, it says But he was the one who also, but he's not the parent, so I guess that's why.

SPEAKER_03:

The reason, but I'm saying the reason why they release him, the little boy, to the dad. I mean, the dad, though. The stepdad kind of. Yeah, the stepdad. The stepdad went to pick him up. They released him to him because he has, they're living with him and who else? They who is Is it his sister they're leaving with now? Because uh they they got another place, and they said that he's not no, yeah, he got another place. The man's stepdad, he's not at his house. So the boy's not welcome there.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so it's maybe on the full story. Okay, and the floor. So the boy's not welcome there. So he's like, where is he gonna stay? He said, Well, he can stay here for now, but we're gonna have to figure something out.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

So the little boy has nowhere to stay.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and and the stepdad is the one that picked him up from the police station. It's like, why would you release them too if you know he already left them and he's already saying he can stay now, but he got to find somewhere else to go. And not once did they say the little boy was delinquent or all kinds of things like that in the story at all. They didn't say that. They normally would say that he was, you know, in trouble all the time and they didn't say that. It just said that he, the stepdad, does not want kids right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And so just thinking for the for the son, I'm just thinking, I if this is done multiple times, like this is not the first time they done packed up and moved um without him, yeah, why haven't they just taken him out of the home?

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe nobody else got involved before.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I mean? Maybe authorities and whatever not have didn't get involved in the world.

SPEAKER_01:

And maybe this is the first time CPS has been involved.

SPEAKER_03:

Somebody else, because the principal didn't say this is not the first time it's happened. You know? But but also, this goes back to what we said uh maybe two episodes ago. How soon is it? Should you introduce your person to your kids? Because this joker here, he, you know, did he was he faking the funk when he met the little boy? Or, you know, did he not know? Or he's like, I don't want no kids.

SPEAKER_01:

Now let me tell you about some of these mamas.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Some people just want the companionship in a man so bad that they are willing. Now if you know that. If you are willing to pack up and move and leave a 12-year-old behind.

SPEAKER_03:

12-year-old, not no adult.

SPEAKER_01:

No, a 12-year-old behind, then certainly you really didn't care if that person or partner or man or woman you met liked your child or not, because you're willing to leave your abandon your child.

SPEAKER_03:

That's that is a show. Her punish, she should be, they should punish her by having her stand in front something and just ram into her Achilles with a grocery basket. Like five times.

SPEAKER_01:

Five times.

SPEAKER_03:

Like when she ain't expecting it.

SPEAKER_01:

I and and I think I feel so sad.

SPEAKER_03:

Right there we hit that little heel bone, too.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel so sad for the baby because just imagine nobody wanting you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And and and to know that my family actually packed up and left me because they didn't want me.

SPEAKER_03:

How bad did they not want him? Because moving anywhere is takes something. Moving makes you uh think your life. I mean they Whether you're packing up an apartment or anything, you'd be like, oh, I hate moving. And they move. Move, moved. They moved. So they did something that the whole world hates to do.

SPEAKER_01:

Land. Yes. Because they did it.

SPEAKER_03:

In secrecy.

SPEAKER_01:

In secrecy before just during the school day.

SPEAKER_03:

They probably didn't have no furniture.

SPEAKER_01:

No, they might have had no furniture.

SPEAKER_03:

They probably, they probably had, they probably had.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, they didn't have much.

SPEAKER_03:

Nope. They probably had uh didn't have no dinner table. They ate at the uh apartment countertop, and they probably had one sofa. Or there was probably a food ton, you know, folded food ton that was in the living room. And then the bedroom, they probably had a bed with the little collapsible uh metal frames, and then towels, and they may have probably about three towels that were black, um a couple pots of paint, because, you know, nasty, because if they that kind of people, they nasty, they don't really wash like they supposed to wash. So they didn't have much. They put everything they had in the uh in a uh 98, 99 suburban.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

They put it in there.

SPEAKER_01:

Now here's something else I was thinking about. Like um.

SPEAKER_03:

They didn't get no deposit back because I know the carpet was nasty.

SPEAKER_01:

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Horrible carpet.

SPEAKER_01:

I forgot the thing I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_03:

And all the stains on the stove, refrigerator was probably nasty.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, here's the thing I was thinking of. Okay. You know how people could drop babies off at the fire station. Can you drop a 12-year-old off?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm sure you can.

SPEAKER_01:

They should have just if you don't want them, just drop the baby off at the um.

SPEAKER_03:

They weren't trying to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

I thought any person, and I don't know if this is the law in every state, but I thought if you feel like you cannot take care of your child or whatever, you don't even have to give a reason.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I don't know either, but I'm sure you can.

SPEAKER_01:

You don't even have to give a reason you can drop them off at the fire, I thought, like fire police station, and you can do it without a reason.

SPEAKER_03:

I thought that was filed.

SPEAKER_01:

That is, and I think for a baby, I mean a baby wouldn't even know, but for a poor 12-year-old, my goodness. Yeah, I feel so sorry for him, but that was trifling.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And um, so she her charges were third-degree felony charge for intentionally abandoning a child under 15 without intent to return. Yep. That was. So okay, so can you abandon a 15 year old? I mean, like if they were sixteen. Oh yeah, because it's sixteen.

SPEAKER_03:

You can abandon anybody.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, but I mean without without it being um a charge. So if they feel if they're 15 and older.

SPEAKER_03:

It depends on that state's age of what it's considered to be, you know, an adult. But I know in most states at 15 you can do um what is it called when you want to get away from your parents? What do they file for?

SPEAKER_01:

Emancipation.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, emancipation.

SPEAKER_01:

So this poll, I mean, I just feel so sorry for me, me. Literally, in three years, they gone, gone. So I don't know the baby's name.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. They ain't gonna put the baby name in the city. No, because it's a minor. But I'm glad they arrested them.

SPEAKER_01:

In three years, he's gonna be on his own.

SPEAKER_03:

Hell, but it might be the husband, the boy, whatever he is, might be gone.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

May every day she go to the grocery store, she be hit in the back of the hill with a shopping cart. For the rest of her life. That is a repurgatory.

SPEAKER_01:

I hope they remove him from the home and he is able to be displaced with some foster parents and end up adopting him and loving on him.

SPEAKER_03:

And he ends up financially secure. Yeah. And they come back to the house. Hey son, remember remember us?

SPEAKER_01:

And then he's like, I've been waiting for you. Hold on one second. Let me go to my garage. And he got a shopping cart in there.

SPEAKER_03:

And hit in the back of the meal. Bah. Yep. Get him. And the old knucklehead. And you know how the old man take out their head. Yeah, so I've seen you've been doing good at school and everything. Uh, won't you help your old man out? I'ma help you out. Get out of my house.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

Smelling like burnt motor oil. Go with it and fix a$5, 15-minute lube. That's what he need to do.

unknown:

A what?

SPEAKER_03:

15-minute lube, because that's what he's doing. He just uh he probably working at the oil lube place and not even a real worker. He one of them people that's doing like two hours just something.

SPEAKER_01:

I believe it.

SPEAKER_03:

Shady, just not no good.

SPEAKER_01:

Making your oil got changed and it did.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Just no good trifling. No offense to anybody working at the oil lube place. But you working there legitimately. He ain't working there legitimately. Trifling woman. Oh, trifling.

SPEAKER_01:

Look at him. They look trifling, don't they?

SPEAKER_03:

They look trifling.

SPEAKER_01:

Look at her. And look at him.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. Oh, bust. Bust. Let me see one more time. Look at him. Oh, half-eye. His eye, one of his eyes ain't even working right. Look like them old uh Toyota. Remember Toyota Cella? Because probably like a uh 8S7. When he used to have them lights used to flash like that, one of his lights flashes like that. That's what he looked like.

SPEAKER_01:

We can talk about him because he's trifling.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he's trifling.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, raggedy self.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, Buster. Buster Brown. Alright, so let's get on so we can do what we gotta do for the rest of the day. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we've been talking for quite a while now, and we're gonna split this episode up into two parts. So, for part one, we really appreciate you for sticking with us. Stay tuned for part two. This is Kefla. This is Greek. And this is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast. Part two soon come.