Stop Puffer Fishing

Somebody gets too close and suddenly you “don’t feel like talking”? That pattern has a name, and learning it can save your relationships. We’re Kefla and Cree, and we start with the real-world catch up, including pollen fatigue, allergy survival, and a traffic court story that ends with a ticket getting dismissed.

Then we get into “puffer fishing,” a new term for the way some of us protect ourselves when vulnerability kicks in. Instead of communicating, we spike up by shutting down, overthinking, or ghosting. We talk about how past experiences and fear can hijack good connections, plus a simple reframe that sticks: protect yourself with a fence you can see through, not a wall that blocks everything.

The second half goes deep on adultification bias and implicit bias in schools, where Black children are often seen as older, less innocent, and more “problematic” for the same behavior other kids get grace for. We share what this looks like in real classrooms, how it impacts confidence and identity, and why parent advocacy matters when your child is the minority in a space. And yes, we end with a headline that sounds like a movie: sharks in the Bahamas testing positive for cocaine, caffeine, and painkillers, and what that says about environmental pollution and wastewater.

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Transcript

Welcome And Couple Catch Up

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The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.

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Welcome back, family. Thank you for tuning in to the Refreshingly Normal Podcast. I am Kefla.

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I am Cree.

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And we are the dynamic duo of a couple, married couple.

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Married.

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Who are bringing who are. We are. Who are. We are.

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We are.

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Yeah, who are is both, right? Yeah, that's what I thought. We are bringing to you a lot of refreshingly normal advice, stories, laughter, personality, and just looks. You know what I'm saying? What a good couple could look like. You know, and not saying aesthetically, but just you know, look at you. Just saying, you know, hey, you know, we can look like regular people.

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Regular.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Regular, degula.

Weather Talk And Pollen Problems

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Regular, degular, smegular. So let's jump into it. It's a beautiful day outside today.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's like uh 60 something degrees. Yeah.

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It was chilly this morning.

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Yeah, it was 80 something yesterday.

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Was it?

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Yes. Yeah, it was 80 something yesterday. So uh it felt like it too. But that pollen was doing its thing. And then at the end, the pollen started flowing heavily because the wind picked up. What'd you smell something?

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Yeah.

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I know what it is.

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I don't know either.

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Okay.

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Okay, sorry.

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I just reminded me to edit it out. Saying like, ooh, they hostate.

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Oh no.

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So uh all right.

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Um I think it's these plants. Did you put some fertilizer in it?

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I did some spray, but it I don't smell it.

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That might be what it is.

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It was some um the uh bug like spray.

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Mm-hmm. That's what I thought.

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You think that's what it is? Go over there and smell that that jar right now. I'm not getting up. That probably ain't what it is, then. All right, back to it.

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Okay.

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So yesterday, you know, it was kind of cool, and then the wind started picking up in the evening, which was blowing all that pollen around. And that's when we went to eat. And it was like, I was feeling good before I went, but then while we were waiting, it started.

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It was terrible.

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Yeah, it had me super congested. Yes. So, but that was crazy. Yeah. But enough of just yesterday. How was your week?

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Yeah. My week was fantastic.

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Great.

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Had a great week. Um, spent my week um doing a parent workshop this week.

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Okay, that's good stuff.

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And that went well. Um, got lots of compliments of it being great information, and that they feeling like I was a great presenter.

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Where are you now?

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Yeah, they said, I don't know. It's just you're just such a great presenter. It's like, I don't know if it's the cadence in your voice.

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That could have been it.

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I was like, I don't know. Very cadency. I'm now. So, anywho, that um is what uh I had um this week. And of course, y'all know I saw my clients, and it was a great, productive week with them, celebrated their successes, and everybody has success this week. I mean, it was just a great, fantabulous week.

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Um, and oh just call me top dog law.

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I had to go to court this night because they had the nerve to send me a ticket talking about I ran a red light. Now I frequent this intersection. I thought you were gonna say I frequent red lights above and I do not run red lights, especially if I see a camera.

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All right then.

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So they come sending me a ticket. And on the ticket, you couldn't even see the red light.

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No, you couldn't.

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So I told this one over here, I'm not paying this ticket. I am going to turn this back in and tell them I would like to fight it. So sure enough, I did. He's like, You really gonna fight that ticket? Yes, I'm keeping my$75. So they sent me a court date. Let me tell you about the enormous amount of favor I had. So, first you have to, it was like a little bit of a line to get into traffic court. Then I was in line, and then I didn't know if the line would keep going or not, but then I had to use the restroom. I was like, man, I'm gonna get out of line. Then I have to get back in line. I was like, just go use the restroom. So I went on to use the restroom, came back out, the line was clear. Favor. Then I went to go sit down. And then the judge before, well, before, before when I was in the line, the the police officer that you have to go through the metal detector and all the stuff, um uh reminded me of what was Andy Griffith's sidekick?

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Um Andy and uh uh oh shoot. Grady, not Grady.

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Grady was the drunk in the cell.

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No. His name was. Grady was.

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That was it.

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His name was Grady?

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I thought, yeah, he was the one.

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It's a black name. They never had nothing black.

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I'm gonna look it up when it's your turn to talk. The one that used to come and let his own self in the cell.

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I don't know if his name was. Barney Feith. That's Barney's though. Barney Fife. Barney Fife is psychic. Yeah.

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But Grady is the one who would come let himself into the cell. Look it up. Anyways, he was going on and on about, just so you know, this ain't this, and he had a little bit of a lisp. This ain't gonna be no two, three hours, two, one quick thing. You got to say, you got to. So he had that list.

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You gonna mess around.

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Okay. He had that list.

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Ernest. His name was Ernest.

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Oh, it's Ernest. Okay. Yeah. Oh, Grady is on um on Fred Sanford. Fred Sanford. Okay, my bad. Um, so anywho, he was giving us all the rundown that isn't it's not gonna be quick. If you thought you were gonna come in and out today, you might want to start calling your people, your job, or whomever. Let them know it could be two to four hours. Da da da da. Giving the rundown. So we got into court. Same thing they were saying. It's not gonna be quick. You see all these people in here, it's gonna take da-da-da amount of time. Well, guess who was the fourth person to be called? Uh so I went up and the man said, Yeah, I didn't see a red light. I watched the video, so we're just gonna dismiss it. I said, I I didn't see a red light either. I frequent that that path and uh I know how the light works. And he goes, Yeah, I'm just gonna dismiss it. You're free to go, Mrs. Hare. And I was like, Thank you so much. Went on about my way in and out of court, 8:30, was out by nine.

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All right, because Favorie, Fabio showed his fabulous. I thought it was good enough.

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Fabulous, child. You don't even much know.

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I don't. It's too, you know, too new. Old songs.

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That made for a great uh week.

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Yeah, it was.

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So I won that case. Y'all need me to help you out with your case is just called Top Dog Law.

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Is your car being towed? Are you afraid of getting a ticket for running a red light? We're called Top Dog Creature Law. She'll get you dismissed.

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And you know it.

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That's it. Y'all like that commercial?

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So, anywho, that's how the week went. It was just a pretty good week. Now, the pollen did beat me up.

Pollen Fatigue And Allergy Fixes

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Yeah.

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And one thing, if y'all don't know, I was just like, all this week. So, first this one did say, Hey, you want to take you some allergy medicine? And I was like, No, I don't, the pollen doesn't bother me. And come Monday night, I was like, Where is the allergy medicine?

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Yep.

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Because it's some super pollen out there. And um, and then all this week, I'm telling it it was on track every day about 1.45-ish. I'm talking about at my desk at work, like I could go to sleep. It was, I was so tired. Um, and so I was like But what did you discover? That pollen, there's a such thing as pollen fatigue. Um, and so if you find yourself tired um with the pollen and you have allergies, there is a such thing as pollen fatigue.

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I said I was gonna look it up.

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Um, yeah, and so I was like, oh, that explains it. So um what I've noticed is so I started taking that Monday night, I took the Benadryl in the morning, I took the everyday, like 24-hour allergy pill, and then I kept doing like the benadry at night, the allergy pill through the day. And so I think today I feel much better than what I felt uh when Monday came or the rest of the week. But yeah, it was a that holland child, that it won. TKO.

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Looks like another pollen. TKO.

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Yeah.

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Oh That's what it was. It was. I know it.

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So anywho, that was my week. What about Well you made it? I made it.

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You survived it.

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I made it. So how about you?

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Um my week was nothing exciting. Like really nothing exciting, nothing fun. As far as the kids was concerned, um, they were struggling. They are struggling. A lot of absences.

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Could have been the pollen.

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Yeah, it definitely was that too, because it was all major. Had a lot of people wearing masks. Um, because you know, when you going in and out of the buildings, you know, doors are open and pollen's everywhere, and we got an old school building no telling what kind of leaks in there.

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, it was they were hurting.

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I think what got me that even though I ran on the pet.

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Pet Pedriel.

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Petriel. It's the treadmill, Peloton treadmill. It's in the garage. And I think pollen was in there. And I did um an hour run and so six miles, and I did a little bit over six miles that day. And I think just the heavy breathing and the palm that was in the garage, I think that also is what hurt me.

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Yeah, I need to clean it out so I can get all that dusting particles and big materials away out of there. Um, yeah. But no, nothing for me, man. Um You know, just the routine, like really routine. I felt groundhoggish this week.

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Did you?

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Yeah. Get up, take a shower.

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You acted groundhog is too.

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Yeah.

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I mean groundhog.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. You acted groundhogish too this week.

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Because I didn't go in no holes this week. So most groundhogs, then they bury themselves in a hole. That's what it was. That had a lot to do with it. Hey. Um, so but um, it was just everything was so mundane. The only thing that was different was my gym. You know, I I had to I purposely tried different kind of different workouts, same, same efforts, you know. Um I'm going heavy for the next three weeks. Um, and then it's just, I don't know, it's just I I need to make some changes. I feel muscle definition in places, but my weight and the body fat are staying the same. So that's kind of trippy trying to figure that out. Um, but that was it, you know. Nothing, nothing too too big. I'm trying to, you know, bottle my excitement for this week, you know, but we'll get to that in the looking forward to section.

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Oh, okay. All right.

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So let's talk about something. I sent you a few things.

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I did. I read both of those things you sent.

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Great. And I know you're always talking about uh the second story we're gonna talk about.

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Yeah, I'm always talking about that.

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And I've never talked about it, but I've experienced it. Because it always happens for little boys.

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Uh-huh. You know. Yeah.

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Little girls if it's in a certain situation. But we'll talk about it.

Puffer Fishing And Relationship Self-Sabotage

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Okay.

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So let's talk about there's a new thing out there in the world called puffer fish. You know, like we always try to bring y'all different kinds of uh terms. Yeah. Terms based off of parenting or dating or whatever it is. So this one is like it's they mention it in a relationship article in Self Magazine Online. Um, but this person also exists in not just dating world. They exist in their everyday world. But they was the title of it is Meet the Puffer Fish, the worst kind of person to date. But I think, well, maybe to date, yeah, but they this person exists, so how can we if we're not dating a puffer fish, but how can you um discover or acknowledge uh, you know what I'm saying, um someone is a puffer fish in your everyday life. Whether it's your boss, your friend, your because if you on this one part, when you're calling somebody and they say they they kind of like ghost. So you want to know, oh, oh, they're a puffer fish. So you don't take it personal, don't take anything personal, but still you kind of uh, you know, understand where they're coming from. So what is a puffer fish? All right, so let's get to it. Let me read this right here. So this has come from self on yahoo.com, but in the self magazine section. So uh where is oh did I miss it? Sorry, y'all. I had my life together earlier, but then he lost it. Then I lost it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Alright, so what is puffer fishing?

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Yes.

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Okay. Puffer fishing, well, first of all, do you know what a puffer fish is?

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Yes.

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It is the I was trying to listen to them first. Okay. Go ahead. The one that always answers. I know what she was in class. Look, look, Crisha, can you let someone else answer, please? Oh, but I know it, but I know it. She thinks she's smart. Jim Car, Jill call her daddy.

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Y'all want to know a little story real fast before we get to the pupperfish?

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Yeah, go ahead.

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When I was pledging Delta and we were learning all the history about Delta, I was super excited about Pledge of Delta. I mean, I was reading my book frontwards, backwards, sideways, and always. And I we got to our um pledge session, and our big sisters was asking us questions, and I was the one who knew all the answers. Then they all got mad with me. But then the um big sisters got said, I should know all things. I need to share all my knowledge with them. And I was like, Well, then that was I reading. So then guess what I did after that?

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Puffer fish.

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Pufferfish. I stopped reading, and if I knew the answer, I didn't say it because I was like, I'm penalized on both sides. So yes, I did become the puffer fish.

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All right. So what is a puffer fish?

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So the pufferfish is the fish that when it's in danger or feels threatened or feels scared or has any kind of fearful emotion, then it will go into protective mode and it puffs out and it has these little spikes. And then that way it wards off anything that could harm or hurt them.

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And sometimes like I like when you said that you said scared or kind of, I think it was like uncomfortable or something like that. So it wasn't like I have to defend myself. It's just of situations I think I gotta do something to make myself not feel so uncomfortable. Uncomfortable, yeah. So that's what uh some people are. Those are the ones who self-sabotage relationships when a person gets too close. Um they they uh do the new term of ghosting now. So let's say they're in a relationship, just a friendship with people and they love the communication, but then they they're afraid that the communication between the friends or friend group is going to stop. Uh just their crazy mind saying, Oh, this is not gonna last forever. Nothing lasts good lasts forever. So you try to protect yourself from protect yourself from from ever having to be let down. So you just ghost everybody and then you just leave the group completely. So are you a puffer fish? And they're saying that this one lady, she pretty much said it as therapist told this lady, um, she kept calling it quits uh every time in you know, short-lived relationships, every time she got close, every time the emotions got strong. She said, You're a puffer fish, puffer fish, because anytime you start to feel vulnerable vulnerable, you stick your spines out instead of communicating. Very, very important.

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I was thinking also for puffer fish, it also could be contributed to their previous experiences. Um so they they they carry that with them, um, and that could be a result of them being a puffer fish or maybe not being hurt and maybe not even their own personal experience, but the experiences of others in their lives.

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But that is still part of their experience. I'm just saying. No, I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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But they didn't actually go through it. No. But they heard about it, saw a specific person, maybe they cared about go through it. Mm-hmm. So that's why.

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The one thing here is said, um, and I like this, it's I was just there. But oh well, I guess I can't find it. But it was saying about us. Oh, Kree.

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Don't be saying me, because I ain't do nothing.

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I had, and then you said something else, and then I lost it again.

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Why you move your finger?

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I didn't. I because you know, this don't do it like that. All right, here it is.

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Oh.

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It says puffer fishing is really just protecting ourselves. It's a primal instinct to make sure we're okay. So we all puffer fish at some time.

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I'm a puffer fish.

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I'm trying to think when have I puffer fish. I can't say that I'm a puffer fish. I can't say that I am. Maybe if I'd done it once, you know, or twice, but never like where it's the same situation for me to realize, oh yeah, I puffer fish on this. I I I think I'm kind of odd in that regard because I'm always trying to see things through to the end. Yeah. Even uh I'm like, oh wait, wait, just wait, just wait, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. We can always get out, but let's just see.

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I think on that with like new friendships. I just I don't know, maybe it's not a puffer fish. I don't know. It I I'm gonna say puffer fish because I just think meeting new people, getting to know them, they're ins, they're outs, they're they're good and the bad. But is that burning somebody we don't want to? I don't know. I just don't even feel like it. I don't think know if it's a protective factor either, but I don't know. I just sometimes I think of puffer fish because you know, I just if it's if it turns out that it's not, I feel like I wasted my time of trying to know somebody and then it's not. And I feel like in most things, I I don't know, I won't say I outgrew people. Maybe I just don't have a high tolerance. I don't know. I don't know if that's the pufferfish piece or not.

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I don't think that's a puffer fish. That's not a puffer fish. That's a uh trying to think of fish that don't care.

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Well, I believe in protecting my peace.

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Yeah.

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And so when things just get kind of complicated, I'm okay with saying child. And then I just go on my merry way. And I also think sometimes I'm so happy with home that it's just kind of like I don't desire for. I don't desire for more.

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That's what I'm saying. So what is that? You a uh I don't know.

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What you wanna call me?

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I'm gonna call you a catfish, but I said Oh my God. Not a cat, but I'll say because catfish just chill in the in the water at the bottom, and they just At the bottom, they eat scavengers. Yeah, I don't call it that. Every fish is a scavenger because they always like the other ones, eat eat shrimp. That's a scavenger eating stuff.

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Well, we eat shrimp.

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I know. We're scavengers too.

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Oh, we are a scavenger, so we eat.

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Multiple things. Yeah, we eat a I'll say you probably a and I don't want to say a sponge because you're not necessarily it's almost like you're cor and I coral reef.

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You know what it is?

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That's what you are.

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What why would you say that?

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You are a coral reef.

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What does that mean?

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Because you just there and you're like, look, I coral reefs don't uh necessarily have the mobility to move around. Like, you know, if they're broken off, then they're visually, you know, connected and attached. But that's because nature took them that way, not because they did whatever. So it's like, look, I'm here. But if nature takes me and and these situations and events take me to being this in this person's presence multiple times, we may become friends.

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Yeah.

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And coral reefs also they are necessary for the environment because if you broke a coral reef, start, let's because you start bottom, I mean top down. You break a coral reef off. Now the smaller fish do not have uh hiding grounds in order to be able to breed. And when they have hiding grounds to be able to breed, those fish then find other locations, which is what make them feed or, you know, the bigger fish looking for them to come out. Well, if those bigger fish didn't have those smaller fish, of course, they would die. And then the fish that rely on them would die. So the coral reef is the base and the premise of sometimes keeping people together, not necessarily trying, but offering space of refuge. Maybe. Is what you did for the like the coral reefs did for the fish. So you're offering a place of refuge if a person wants to be your friend or a person wants to be a few. Oh, yeah, I'm accepting of that. Over um just anything. But I just don't.

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I'm not out searching.

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Yes, I don't have the capacity to actually go out there and either be you know.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

I'm not searching. If a friendship naturally happens, that's usually for me how it goes. I'm not searching. I I'm fine with or without. Yeah. I should say.

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Like you don't do and say, I need to find a new friend group. I joined a book study just so I can be with like-minded ladies like that is not cream. Yeah. I joined a run club just so I can be with people.

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That's not me.

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Not just your run, but I wanted to also meet friends to run with.

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That's not me.

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Yeah.

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I'm okay with running by myself. I'm okay with uh Your Corey's not a puffer fish. No, yep, that's me. That's me too.

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Who do you know that's a puff? I think my mama's a puffer fish.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Oh, for sure. But I think that comes from her.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

It it some of it comes from the past, but some of it also comes from my mom is not truly open-minded. You know what I mean? She don't, she she's and I think some of that comes from fear, and some of that comes from inexperience of seeing it happen before. You know, um, because like when I wanted to do TV, they they told me I that nope, that's a bad decision, bad idea. And then once I got on TV and got on TV again, and then got on TV again, anytime I say, I'm in, I want getting ready to try this, ooh, what will you be doing now? You see what I'm saying? So the experience of not ever seeing it happen is what made them puffer fish. Because she is a huge puffer fish. You know, when it comes to, like I said, like things that she just don't relate to, or um she self-sabotage herself when being asked to do something. I'm just not gonna have enough time to do that and don't even know yet.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Well, but still she overcommits.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

She does, but when in instead of her just getting to it and grinding because she does, the reason why she overcommits is because she knows she can do it. She does it well, and people, they're not gonna allow somebody to overcommit that they don't want in that position, right?

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And so And she's gonna do the job, she's gonna do it well.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

But she puffer fishes herself, one, because she's stressing about that perfectionism of the job. You know what I mean? So she'll she'll talk herself out of, or she won't do something um right offhand because she's trying to protect the film. But of course, the deadline comes and she gotta do it anyway. Or she'll call Kree and say, Hey, I was trying thinking of this. I can't find it anywhere. You seen any red bowls in the bright box? Sometimes they have them on YouTube on um Amazon.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

And she can already look Amazon. But she didn't already look.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

That's why she said sometimes they have them on there.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

She does that to me. And I have been that she just did that to me for something for the church anniversary. And I have had, I have so much going, as y'all know. Um, and so literally, I spoke to her on my way to the hairdresser, and I told her, I look when I got to the hairdresser. I sat down in that hairdresser chair. And I remember it was it was literally like 15 minutes that I had spoken to her about that and did not remember anything that she said when I sat in the chair. I just said, I'm gonna take a nap. And I just took a nap, and that's what I did. And then she got texted me the next day, and I said, Oh Lord, I forgot all about that. Because that's the night we went to uh the Luna.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Eclipse the Luna.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

And then we went to Eclipse Luna, and we had the cocktails, and then, you know, child, I wasn't thinking about anything. So it was just like a nice, like, I got my hair done, took a nap, got my hair done, we went to the mall, went to local Luna, came home. I did not even think about it at all. But yeah, she will call me and say, Crazy, you know what I can get. Um, and I think just to have somebody to feel like she's doing a job with that she trusts that will, and then I feel like I let her down. I told her I was so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

That should be all right.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

You think our boys are puffer fish? I do.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

I don't know about Kahari, but Kimani for sure.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

What does Kahari does it himself?

SPEAKER_02 27:58

What does he do?

SPEAKER_01 27:58

When he gets nervous or afraid of commitment, he shuts it down and he just won't do it.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Give me an example.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

His spindles, like, okay, uh, with school. You know, he gets uncomfortable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Oh, you're right. So he just and he makes up an excuse why it won't work. And I'll be looking at him like that.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Or he shuts his shuts down. When he shuts down, that's his spikes.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

That's his spikes coming out. Like, you know what? I'm not of I'm not allowing the hard work to come in. I'm just gonna quit the work.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yeah, I feel uncomfortable. Yes, I'm gonna quit the work. And then Kim Money does that, I feel like, not with achievements, because he's gonna achieve all day, but in personal relationships where people try to grow to me things with him, but I don't know if he's so caught up in achievement or if it's his own confidence. Yeah, because I was just gonna say not comfortable with himself.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

What is the true reason?

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Is it that, like you said, because they always been, come on and speak to him. They the guy said, Hey, you didn't know y'all from school. And they was always, I don't know what to say. So I think that is part of it too, because he didn't really have any deep friendships besides what's outside of his brother. How do you speak to, how do you make new friends?

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Yeah, and I always wonder, and and I know things happen the way they're supposed to, because when they were in elementary and they were in school with me, they had their little crew of people that they would hang out with, come, you know, and and do. And I wonder, would it be different if they would have kept in the same place as far as it's like, it probably would have, you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

But I mean, you look at time changes. Well, no, I think it's not just with their friends, it's it's the but see also I think meeting, I think sometimes that comes because that's what like he and Kahari, they're comfortable.

SPEAKER_05 29:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

So they don't have to have new friends.

SPEAKER_05 29:46

That's true. So I think yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

So let's say, what if they got a group of five friends and one move away, one falls out, that's only one more dude.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

You know what I mean? And so that comfortableness of just still being in a group like that is eventually when new groups come in, you be like.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Yeah. And and I've heard that a lot from twin parents, that that's sometimes a thing with twins that they have.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

They don't need anybody because they got each other.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

They're they're puffer fish in different ways, more with uh Kahari's more with the achievement piece, like change.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

And then Kimani's more so with the personal life piece, thinking um, I don't know, there's a uncomfortable in both of those for for them.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

This the article says that um how do you get over puffer fishing tendencies?

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Oh, what does it say?

SPEAKER_01 30:35

It says uh eliminating the behavior completely isn't the goal. In fact, it's okay to have your spikes out sometimes, especially around new people. Um and then uh the writer said, but if you want to build close relationships, you know, whether that's you know, romantic relationships or whatever friendships, it's ultimately best to repair your mindset. And that's to understand past experiences.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

How it's how it's impacting. Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Past experiences do not have to affect new experiences. They can actually be two different things.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Um and then some people don't even have past experiences, they just overthinkers. I think of some of my clients that are that way, and they're puffer fish.

SPEAKER_05 31:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Um, because they are just overthinkers and they tend to think more in the negative. So they go to what if this person And they hold on to it. Yeah. What if this person turns out to be a terrible friend, and then I tell them my secrets, and then they go tell my secrets to other people, and then other people start talking about me, and and then they just go through this whole whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

That's what I'm gonna say. What you did just then just now is exactly what the problem is. Because you went, you just went, you could have, you could always, like you said, it's always good to protect yourself. So you could have just stopped at your first thought, which is great because you always want to be like, well, if I don't, then this is how I need to pivot. So that you can notice if that happens to be like and so, but like you said, they stack that. And then they have another reason and another reason and another reason and another reason. And by doing that, you're never gonna really get over it because it's always a what if, a but if, and it, you know, maybe if, you know. So all right, so let's see what else they say about um puffer fishing. Okay. Um, it one thing said knowing your emotions, knowing what draws, you know, whatever you puff for fishing on is important. And it's important to actually lean in on what it is that's uh pushing somebody away or pushing you away. Yeah. So that you can really say, oh, is it that serious? Do I need to push myself away? Do you know why am I doing this?

SPEAKER_02 32:53

Start to it allows you to be reflective. And then you can say, be able to think with a reasonable mind.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Okay, let me be logical. Has this person done any of the things? Let me go back and think of my interactions with this person.

SPEAKER_05 33:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Have they done this thing to make me think this way? Have they done that thing? Have they given me a suspicion of that? Have they been unkind to me? And so then once you kind of reflect and go, wait, it's a no to all of that. Then why are why am I puffing?

SPEAKER_07 33:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Okay, let me unpuff and let me continue building this friendship or relationship. Um, and then if this these thoughts come back, then I'll take that moment to reflect again.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

On what you just said, they were saying don't do it as a, don't be protecting yourself as a wall. Because you're supposed to protect yourself. He said, but protect yourself in the um metaphor of a fence. You rhyme with sense. He said, because a fence allows you to have a separation between you and that uncomfortable feeling, but it also allows you to be able to see through the other side and what's making you feel that way, and how is it that I can stop feeling that way. But when we put it up as a fence, we just say, This is why every time I see this, I shut down. Okay, here I am. As opposed to why am I shutting down? Is it really that scared? Because you know, if you got a fence, a picket fence, you can kind of look through and say, Oh, that's a little dog that was barking, not a big dog. Yeah. Okay, I can go over there, as opposed to you just hearing that bark and oh, in your mind, oh man, it's a big rabbit dog that's probably already killed two humans, as opposed to just going over there. So we need to change our mindset and not be a puffer fish.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Yeah, because you'll find yourself going through the same cycle over and over again. And I think with that, if you feel like for anything, if you keep losing a job, if you keep getting in and out of relationships, if you keep losing friends, at some point you've got to sit and be evaluate and be honest with your problem and really go through and look. And then if you find that you are attracting specifically, that's all right. Specifically, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

I get animated.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Oh God. And then if you find that you keep attracting the same kind of uh uh partners or friends, then you may need to shift and say, I need to start choosing better people.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Yeah, or I need to work on myself.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Work on myself.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Yeah, I think that that's just gonna be myself.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

That's all I got in the end. That's what I found out.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

And it ain't no puffer fishing. But for now on, I'm a not puffer fish. Oh my god. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

So, anyways, yeah, I think puffer fishing. That is. I I I like the puffer fish.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

Yeah, I like it. I like it too. That's a good article. We had a puffer fish, we had a what was that other one? Lomb, no helicopter, lawnmower. And I saw another one, but I'll I'll I'll look it up next week and we'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

It was, it was, this one was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Don't be a puffer fish.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

No, don't do it. Don't do it, girl. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

I ain't gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Don't do it, girl. I ain't gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I ain't gonna do it.

Adultification Bias Against Black Children

SPEAKER_01 36:22

All right, so let's get back to the next story at hand.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

The next story at hand says Oh, this really. You can't read it all because it's pretty long. It is, but um, yeah, it was it was um a very good article.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

So this article here, uh, it's it's the article title, Yahoo.com, is well, why black children are often untreated. I mean, why why black children are often unfairly treated. Okay, and they're talking about treating them as or seeing them and their behavior as adult-like. Okay. So this article explores how black children are frequently treated more harshly than their peers, especially in schools and disciplinary settings, due to the implicit bias and system and systemic inequality. I don't know why I can't read today. And systemic inequality, all right? And as Kree and I said, of seeing these individuals as adults, seeing their behavior as adult-like.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Um one of those examples in that article was saying the mom who had adopted a black girl and she had a daughter, they're the same age, um, and they wore the same similar skirt, but they sent the black girl to the office to change her skirt because they said it was too much. And I want to say it was like first grade or kindergarten, it was a primary grade. They were like, why? This is a primary grade, why is that not? But they didn't send the other. Um, and and they're already sexualizing her as a six-year-old.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Yeah. But systemically, that's why I'm glad to say systemic inequality, because um, you know, and we well, we know back in the days, um they always, out of fear of the black man or the black woman, they pictured us as being overly aggressive, mean, um black women overly sexual. Over sexual, over sexualized. Um, and the same thing for the males, you know, they was, oh my God, that's strong mending go, strong book, you know, for breeding. And so that was always a fear, you know, and and so that has carried over years and generations down. Um, and you know, many people wouldn't understand it, but the people that lived it or the people that are in touch with it, they do understand and they have seen it or have been a victim or of it, you know. And so I know growing up, I seen um the mistreatment of little black boys, uh, you know, wrestling or um play fighting, and it's seen deemed as violence, you know, as opposed to somebody else and say, hey, stop horsing around. You know, um, or my passion on the field is deemed differently than somebody else's passion saying, yeah, and me saying, let's go, let's go, you know, jumping up and down like they say, you need to act like you've been there before. You know, um, and like you said, in the classroom, we see that with I know I'll go into the ISS room, and we're not the minority on campus, but it's just like in prison, we're not the minority in society, but we're the majority in the um correctional institutions. And we're not the minority on campus, but we are the majority in ISS. We are the majority when it comes to write-ups. Um and I sit in the classroom, so I hear it all the time. And the kids are comparing, so I had those same kind of clothes on, and they let me walk straight by. You know, and so it's there. So I do understand. Um, it's called adultification biases. One of the biggest issues highlighted is something called adultrification bias. This means black children, especially boys, but also girls, are often seen as older than they actually are, less innocent, more responsible for their behavior. Because of this, adults may respond to them with less patience, less empathy, and harsher consequences. Um, give me a little something on that, and then we'll go into the other points.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

I'm just thinking about um how unaware people are about it. I mean, that's where the bias comes from, right? That how they're so unaware of it. Um, but I think in order for things to change, is that you have to people have to say. Um, I think it does people feel like they don't shouldn't have to be the spokesperson for black children if you're in a school and maybe there aren't as many black uh uh representatives as far as teachers or that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

But you better speak up if you notice it.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

But you do. When I was a school counselor, I did. Um, because I also find we're talking about black children, but I also found it with Hispanic children that they have the same sort of treatment as well. Um, and I just could not allow it. That's just part of who I am. Yeah, me too. You're not going to mistreat um innocent people. And if it's not fair and I feel like there is some bias that you aren't aware of, then I'm gonna make sure you know that that's what it is. Even in classrooms where I had to observe and you send me out for a specific uh student that happens to be a black male, but then I look in your classroom, I'm like, wait, there's some behavior standing out more than that. Like, let's talk about like why are we highlighting this, but we're not highlighting that.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

That's exactly what they say. They say the disproportionate discipline black students are more likely to be suspended or expelled, more likely likely to be labeled as disruptive or defiant, less likely to be given grace for normal childhood behavior. The same behavior that might be seen as kids being kids in others is often viewed as a serious problem when it comes from the black children.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

Yes. And some of those things, that's exactly what I see. I think about when I was as a teacher, what you're telling me to come out and look at and see, I'd be like, that's not a problem for me. That's we can that that's that's manageable, right? And but we are are setting it up and and making it as if it's something that um is um defiance.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Yeah, and I think teachers are but just people. People don't see their biases because they bias don't exist where truth lies in their mind.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

Well, bias doesn't exist in a world where you, whoever the culture is or race you have a bias towards, is a part of that. So you uh can't be um understand your bias when that's not your circle.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

But I'm saying, so what what like so let's say So you don't nobody can kind of call you out because they're not even a part of it.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Yeah, but so like this, and I'm saying this is where this is where the bias, it's not a bias, it's it's in their mind. I'm telling you where, you know, just where it comes from. So let's say, let's say I'm biased, like towards these kids. And I'm saying they're grown, they're aggressive, and all that stuff. And they say, why do you do it? I said, Well, I was always taught and I've always seen, you know what I'm saying? So they're they're saying like facts. And we're saying facts of what, but you it's right, it's the facts of what you've probably seen in your clothes world and your interpretation of what is really facts. But that's what because a bias they like really they don't they don't think bias is is not true.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

And you know what's unfortunate? What's unfortunate is I'm gonna say the thing that there are many black parents who want their children to get the best education. Correct. And so they end up going to schools that are high performing where there aren't a lot of black children in that school. There aren't a lot of black teachers in that school. And so there's bias everywhere because their experience with black children is very limited. And so they go into these spaces and they are getting a great education because there's not the distractions there's not the all of the things that are more resources.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Because a lot of times we do know that the the in especially like in populations that are not like the chocolate city populations the black population is more um they're heavily populated in the areas that are not as affluent. Yeah. And I hate to say that about it but you know even in our own county.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

But that's how things were built and made yeah of course right and so you know this it's just what it's just what these are the cars that we were dealt are able now financially and and other you know rules like you know school of choice like that allows them to be able to go to those better performing schools.

Advocating For Your Child At School

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Yeah and and not even that just the exposure of the who they get to interact with and the exposure that they experience because their parents are in careers and jobs that allow them to have this exposure that also contributes to where they are academically and all that. But however I just their experiences I just imagine are quite challenging. We saw it with our boys. Yeah um so it's specifically with Kimani being in an advanced class and being in a class that there are only two other black children in that classroom and for a teacher whenever an answer is wrong or she wants to show the wrong way to do it using him as the example we had no clue this was going on for him. And then he and I was like hey I'm going on a walk you want to go on a walk with me and so he's like yeah I'll go with you so he and I walk in and we just I'm like hey what okay what how's school going? What's your favorite class? And he said my favorite class this why is that your favorite class and just getting him to talk about what's going on I said well what's your least favorite class and he said he told me it's least favorite class and I said why is that your least favorite class he said well the teacher always used me as an example of the answer that's wrong. I said what and so I couldn't wait for this one to get home from coaching. I was like oh no I didn't know that part no something's got to be done yeah I didn't know that part it was the the main part for us was when she moved his seat but that's what happened after that's what made me go to uh because if I would have known thank God I didn't know he was the example part I would have left oh yes yeah and so I went ahead and and so I said okay as teachers like let me go I I'm not gonna go to the principal first let me go on and email her let me take a sip because I didn't know that I didn't you never knew that I did not know that I emailed her and you know tried to be very appropriate um in my message to her um and she wrote something back and then um the so I asked Kimani maybe a couple a week or so later how's it going in that class and he says oh she moved me to the back of the class I said the back of the class why did she move you to the back of the class and she said she said because she just wanted to make sure I didn't feel um uncomfortable or under the spotlight I said okay this is how this is how we're doing things so then that's when we reached out and to the principal and they weren't gonna move his classes right then soon after that's when Kimani did the thing. Yeah but okay yeah good so then soon after is when Kimani did the thing so we got a call and the thing was he was supposed to have wrote something on his paper and he was calling her funky bitch.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

He called her racist racist bitch a funky racist bitch or racist bitch. I don't know I don't know about the race maybe that's just me thinking about her being a funky bitch but he called her he said Miss Such and such is a Lord thank you for not letting me know said Miss Such and such is a racist bitch.

SPEAKER_02 49:07

And so um we didn't know they just said they wanted um us to come up I couldn't he went up and so Kimani came to the office with them and they left and um and he were just explaining that yeah there have been a little bit of issues in that classroom you know and so they said we'll be right back Mr. Hare and so he said son now for these folks come back it's something you need to tell me and he said I said he had wrote it on a piece of paper. He wrote it on the back of his worksheet because he didn't know that there was something they were going to have to turn in and then she said turn in he forgot he wrote it on the back of it and turn the paper in so he says he might have done on purpose but yeah that's not like him because he does not like conflicts.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

And I was like my son don't even talk like that at home so I can I doubt he said it so he said oh we'll be right back. And they brought that and they brought the paper back and I looked at it I said you did this he said yeah I said why and he said because I just I hate it in there I'm I'm uncomfortable I hate this class and I said I understand why you hate the class and uh we've already tried to talk to and I was yeah the principal and I said this is why and so you know I understand son I said so but I apologize for him speaking that way we don't teach him to speak that way let alone a man calling a woman that um but of course I am I I called because she was that way. And so uh I'm just now but then I said let's um I said so you know I think it's it's best because she's already shown that she doesn't like my son for whatever reason I'm not gonna call it racism because I don't know I can't speak for the way other kids being taught in that class. But I do know that there is a single out for an adult to be acting petty like this. And I told the guy that I said so he needs to have his class move. Well Mr Hare we can't move him it's in the middle I said excuse me I am I'm in the education system. I teach right down the street Kennesaw Mountain High School I have had several kids have situations where they were removed I don't care two weeks into the classroom because it was not a conducive environment for the teacher or the student.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

And then I remember you saying we did email her first and we asked him how were things going and you told her what he said that she moved him she moved him to the back of the class and she said oh yeah and things were changed.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Because she didn't tell all of her stuff she didn't send emails and stuff like that and I said I said well and I did through I threw around I said look I know that because Dr. Daniels had just left and I said I said you know what don't worry I said I'll talk to Dr. Daniels I said because he knows and he is a a a uh close friend of ours and he would not tolerate this kind of treatment I said but I guarantee you my either my son is going to have his class change I said today or tomorrow or we're gonna have some problems and I said and I don't know what the problems look like I said does it mean me getting the news up here does it mean causing a ruckus I said but whatever it looks like I'm not gonna let my son be mistreated up in here.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

We bought a house for these schools input you know uh specifically and you best believe that we are going to enjoy these schools we are at and next thing you know they did then that morning they gave him a new schedule they did they gave him a new schedule um and so in that way we did have to advocate and so that's why I always tell parents it's so important for you to talk to your children especially when you know they are the real minority in that space that you need to ask them how was your school day what was the best part of the day what was the worst part of the day like you need to have those conversations because I know for my boys when we're at home and they're talking I say crazy things at home. So sometimes they think I will go to their school and say the same things but I tell them I'm completely professional when I'm dealing with things at your school um I'm your advocate if you can't do it that is my job as your parent too but when we are putting our children in schools where they are the minority um you have to check on them you need to ask questions how was your day what was good what was the best part what was the worst part of the day to ensure that they aren't suffering through adults biases that will ruin their spirit just blow out their little light right and that is what happened for Kimani his little light was blown out. Yep this is what it said it said and he is just now to me getting it back.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

Yeah the long-term impact one of these things these patterns don't just affect the kids in the moment they shape their self-esteem and identity the trust in authority figures academic outcomes and future opportunities repeated negative experiences can lead to disengagement frustration and feeling misunderstood and what this looks like in school or I mean everyday life so in school a black child this is what it looks like in school a black child talking in class gets labeled disruptive while others another child is seen as chatty a chatterbox uh on the playground rough housing might be called aggressive for one child but playing around for another with emotions a black child expressing frustration may be seen as angry or threatening instead of just upset with mistakes instead of being corrected and guided they're more likely to be punished quickly and in public spaces a black child being loud or energetic may draw suspicion instead of understanding so in its core you know um and representation matters it does in spaces where where where populations are changing um then the representatives in that building need to change yeah um so that you either their mindset needs to reflect or their experiences or even trainings trainings that train about certain things of different cultures that's what I'm saying that's gonna that's gonna affect their mind so either either the mindset needs to be present or the social experience needs to be present and the social experience is actually going to have the mindset too you know so yeah definitely definitely needs to because it changes with anything else yeah you know if if the demographics change to um handicapped people then the business is going to make sure that they have handicapped accessible things things for that you know correct if it if it changes to uh language yeah language they start offering language you know um companies went to uh digital payments because other companies didn't it's like well it's changing so we got to change with the times true we got to change with the times and that should be the same but when it comes to I think you know deeper the racial the same racial stuff we've always dealt with there is no changing there's no changing for the times.

SPEAKER_02 56:22

Yeah and that just goes through a lot of things it's just the the inequalities right that that's just really what it is and and the fear of of the success of specific cultures. Yeah so you know um that that really is where a lot of it um stems from so I just think um as parents just be aware um check on your babies and make sure they're in a safe space um to grow and learn you just have to make sure of that um and that um you can't I mean we do our best to make sure to I to um encourage our boys and make sure that their light isn't dimmed or or not but sometimes the power of other people and those interactions are stronger than what we can they are they often are yeah you know um really what you know we we say this when we're talking about our students we see or when you as a classroom teacher you saw your kids more than their parents did because if they went to think about when you were in elementary and it was they stay with you the whole day right so and then they go to ASP for maybe two hours.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

Yeah then you pick them up yeah pick them up and some of them have gymnastics or something after that after that so let's say that's another hour. So right now they got out at three four five six so they get home at seven dinner homework bed and that's nine o'clock they got three hours with you. Yeah so they're so three hours with the pen as opposed to eight nine with someone else so many things that can impact them. And and the the crazy part is that some people aren't even aware that they can dim or ruin the spirit of a child I did a training with some staff um and and someone asked me that question you really believe that um a teacher could um ruin the spirit or dim the light of a child I said absolutely and I I share the story of and this is unknowingly right yeah and I share the story and they just are like in awe and yeah you definitely can low frequency pretty much gives low frequency sound you see what I'm saying so they don't really necessarily know they're dimming their light because their light is already dim too yeah that's why they didn't understand yeah that's you know they didn't know that not motivating him was you know or so I say uh oh I can be a football player well you know not that many people it's it's like I didn't I was just really telling him that he you know I was yeah showing him a plan B but you weren't encouraging no you know and so that's I think a way that that that dim that low frequency gives off that low light so that kid is not seeing the brighter side of the because the idea of if an answer it don't matter whose answer is wrong why you using anybody as an example of the wrong you don't went back over there I'm sorry but why you do you know what I mean she knew but this lady knew what she was saying I know so this ain't got nothing to the light demand no it don't and I'll tell y'all something about that I called because I volunteered and did all the things at the school I called my PTA person I knew and I said tell me more about Miss Such and such and she was like oh oh and I got all the tea and from there things started happening.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

It started making sense and stuff like that started making sense the whole school and then the whole little group was like oh she no see that the soap creek should have told them about me yeah they should have told about me they should have told let me tell you this one mess with me when the boys were there um we dropped him off at school they have projects so he drove them because wait no no no no they took the bus and you realized that what Kimani was the one who had forgotten his project and they were presenting that day and and he was like oh no he's not gonna be the little black boy who doesn't present. So he tried to go drop off his project and they're like oh we are so sorry we have a school policy we don't allow parents to drop off projects because we have over a thousand something students if we do that then we would be doing this all day and he said okay well at first I said I'm looking I said now that would work if it was happening all the time.

Sharks Testing Positive For Drugs

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Yeah but it's not happening all the time I said I'm the only one here right now trying to drop off my child's work. Well we still don't allow that Mr Hare I said I've never done anything you know I had to drain any work back or any you know drop anything off so it's you it's obviously not going to I said look I work in the in this in the school after I throw that when I was at the another school I said I'm a teacher so I would love for a parent to be able to drop off their child's work if they you know spent hard earned time and all that effort and put that effort into it they didn't buy it so I said okay tell them what I did so what he did was he said well you know what I need to check Kimani out I checked them both out yeah I was I I need to check them both out they have an appointment and then they went he said yes I need to check them both out he checked both of them little jokers out they went and got some breakfast came back and then if Kimani probably knew what happened he would have never walked in there because Kimani does not like conflict if there is a rule he's following it he's following it and he did not tell Kimani what the rule was oh they came back from breakfast he dropped him off that project and I said good luck with your project right there you know in the lobby good luck with your project and they were like the audacity and so that project got got turned in that day let me go and presented. Let me go to my job with my students he is so quick with it because I just would have been frustrated I would have never thought of that I just would have been so frustrated and been fussing and cussing all day I said I got a surprise for y'all he was good with that and when the boys came say what what I said I got a surprise let's go to breakfast and they were like yeah I'm breaking yep so on on food around me okay um so that was that's that little deal there all right so let's talk about the last thing yes the book Leave It Sister story baby of the week and this story oh I saw this one too how did the crap how did the crack hold on hold on hold on okay so that was this movie that I know me and Kamani watched it cocaine bear yeah where the bear got a hold to some cocaine that had in the plane that had crashed and the bear went crazy which happened in Georgia right yeah it happened in Georgia yeah the guy was flying from Tennessee to I think Savannah somewhere on a passenger plane with a plane full of cocaine and so it was like a private plane and he uh crashed in one of the Georgia mountains and the cocaine um you know was in the mountains now they didn't find a cocaine bear nothing like that but they were just saying um that what would how cool would it be if a bear actually ate the cocaine well now in the Bahamas oh so a bear never did but that was yeah that's just the story of it yeah the the So it was not a true it was a true story of the cocaine being there but the bear didn't yeah because people was like man is all these animals we'd probably get that was the running joke okay okay all right and so in the Bahamas there have been sharks that have tested positive for cocaine caffeine and painkillers where are they getting it from I repeat sharks in the Bahamas have tested positive for cocaine caffeine and painkillers a new study found. And so researchers did they analyzed blood samples from like 85 sharks captured around one of the most remote islands in the Bahamas of those sharks 28 had drugs of some kind in their system and so the findings show that the widespread pollution that can spread even the places seen as pristine that's why they tell you like even now put the drugs in the toilet don't flush your old expired medications in the toilet because why would you do that it filters because they don't want to also throw it in the trash and it could go into the land the landfills. Landfills too but they don't people they don't want to necessarily throw it away because if somebody you know our folks they don't want nobody digging in their trash stuff like that. But it's just like male too but like male like you know people digging your trash for mail they might be oh found some drugs. Now they in there for drugs and they're a drug addict and they come and they beat down your doe and now you gotta shoot him because he's a crackhead trying to steal something.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:47

That is a girl you know what I mean? I hear you.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

And so we're talking about cocaine tigers I mean lions bear sharks around here and so um the caffeine was mostly found was the most Found substance in the sharks tested. But only two tested positive for cocaine. But that's another thing about a cocaine shark. They already ferocious.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

You got a shark high on cocaine. I mean he's fast, fast. Oh man. Energy, he's jittery, he's biting everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:14

Biting legs off.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:15

Everything. Ship boats getting holes in them. He's over there biting cracking. Just crazy shark.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

Just a crack shark.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

So yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:24

So I mean a crack shark.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

And with caffeine, they really don't get tired.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:28

Okay, it might counteract.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

That's what the painkillers do. That's the counteraction.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:33

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:34

The the painkillers. Because painkillers like and then I got all the cocaine.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

So it's gonna be that if they're gonna fight each other and it's gonna put you in that just like I'm up, but I'm they might be they if the combo of it together, they might just be chilling.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

They might. Oh, it depends on what they had the most that day. The painkillers.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:55

They had a lot of painkillers. But you know, painkillers, opioid drugs. Because stuff like that. Because that's how they trap, you know, trapping.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

Probably overdosing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

That's what they said. They probably uh um one thing said.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:05

Because you get opioid, crack, and caffeine. Yep, you're dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

Yep. Now um they said that the scientists suspect that like from getting the co cocaine and stuff and the painkillers, they may have bitten into packets of drugs that have fell into the water.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

Oh, from the ships that are transporting.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:24

Uh-huh. And then uh they said that many of these sharks were captured near popular diving and cruise spots, suggesting that wastewater from like the cruise, you know, when they had the flush could be contributing to the results along with increased wastewater from the people on the cruises, they just cocaine out.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

They just cocaine.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:42

Yeah, they they they they they gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:44

Dang.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

That's why they was cutting up. Remember on right after COVID when everybody could finally travel, people that was like, well, I'm getting on me a boat. Because they ain't never done people thought that they can never do whatever they could have done before. Oh, yeah, they be high.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:01

They be high as a cake, especially now with the with the Laparty drug.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

And they probably feel like they on the they're on the boat. They don't have to drive anywhere. Let's get lit.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:08

You can get as lit as you want to.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

Don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

Mm-mm. But they get too lit.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Don't do it. Don't get too lit.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:14

Yep. Mm-mm. Yeah. So it's the first time caffeine has been found in sharks, and the first time cocaine has been found in sharks in the Bahamas. Though it has been found in sharks in other locations. So the painkillers were acetamedaphen, which is a generic name for Tylenol, and dichlofinate, that's also a pain medication, uh, which is also sold on the brand names like Volterin and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

But if you think about caffeine could be from so many places. When we were young, it was just no dose. But now you get caffeine and anything, all the different kinds of caffeine drinks, the mint, the um everything gum, um, your coffee with an espresso. I mean, there's so many different places to get caffeine. So I'm thinking if you're drinking all these things and you're using the restroom, um, that stuff is flushing through. You're also pouring out what you're not. Like there's, I bet if we thought about the increase of the percent of caffeine found in urine and in the water, I mean, it's it has to be at an astronomical amount because when I go to these different middle and high schools, everybody got a caffeine drink in their hand. They all got a monster or um um what's the one with the C? Um Celsius. Celsius. Yeah, they got the Celsius, the monster.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

Uh what's that one? Aluna, Aleya.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

Yeah, they're somebody that all of them have that, or they got a Starbucks drink in their hand. But they all do.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

Um they still fall asleep in class.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:57

Yeah, and they and they drink, and I mean they drink them like water. They drink multiple ones a day. You are not supposed to do that. Um, so yeah, that that's why that's why the sharks are getting it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

Yeah. Old old catch. That may be a crack shark.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:15

I know we have um global warming and everything, but if the crack if the sharks got crack, painkillers, and caffeine, plus global warming, y'all go on the ocean if you want to. I think not. I'm not doing it. Mm-mm. Because that no, that sounds scary to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:36

Oh crack, I can't wait to see a crack shark. They're gonna have one. Because you know, when they have shark week, they need to have they need to have cocaine shark.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:43

They're gonna have cocaine song week.

Side Eye Of The Week

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

Let me be the host for shark week cocaine shark. Cocaine shark. That'll be hilarious. For sure. Okay. All right. So let's uh let's get on up out of here. But before we get up out of here, we gotta get at as I do it. Side eye of the week.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

What's your side eye?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:04

My side eye is pollen. Also known when I came to Georgia, people say, also known as tree sperm. Tree cone. That's what I heard. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:15

I've never heard such a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:17

I did. I I heard that. So uh, yeah, it's everywhere. Um, and you know, I take my glasses off and then put my contacts in when I go work out. And oh, just that little just I mean, I of course, you know, my I don't have nothing on my, but you know, that contact is kind of after a while, they kind of get under it. And it's my eyes be feeling heavy and slow. Slow. Like I be like, oh, I can't, I gotta they gotta focus. And they finally focus. Cause you know, my contacts got the little stigmatism thing in it. Stigmatism unite. But um pollen is uh I can't even work um drive with my top off on the Jeep, you know, because no, it ain't the time. It ain't the time. And every time I um like lean up against something, I got a yellow print. Yeah, a green print on my body. So, and it got all the kids snotting, coughing, um eyes red. I'm walking to the clinic taking kids. Uh I want you to be my proof that it's pollen, not pink eye.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:23

Cause they don't want to go home.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:25

No, they don't want the kids to say they got pink eye. Oh, okay. Everybody's like, ah, they all miss me. They call you nasty. Oh, God. Because you know they say pink eyes give me somebody farted in your face. And so the kids then they gonna say you've been eating booty.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:37

When I was in ninth grade, I had a bad case of pink eye.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

They say you've been eating booted with you in ninth grade. And somebody farting you've got my mama took me to this doctor.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

I don't know what uh century he came from. He gave me a pink, he tried to get pink eye medicine that was a cream. You had to rub in your eye. I said, Oh, what the hell doing this? Ain't nobody doing this. So she had to take me somewhere else so I can get some medicine I can just burn in my eye. I was like, ain't nobody doing this.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

It probably was the eye doctor mama took us to to give us some glasses. Same man.

The Worst Eye Doctor Story

SPEAKER_02 1:13:10

Oh my gosh. Tell us your story about them glasses.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:15

So my mom, we had some insurance that my dad, my dad, you know, started working for the Corps of Engineers. Great government job. And so we we get the insurance, and but you know, the doctors were locally in Mobile. So we go to Mobile, we you know, we got our little appointment, and it's like right off the road, too, like off of Government Street. I'm talking about when I say right off, it's like when you walk out of the door, you're looking at Government Street. Like right there, you're looking at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:43

So it's like they thought they was doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:45

And it looked like it was in a house, though. Like real talk, it was like in an old house that they had uh converted into an office. So we're going through the whole eye exam. We excited, you know, because you know, glasses was a thing, people wearing just fake glasses or whatever. And I, you know, we was just excited to be getting a real eye test. I really can't remember another eye test before then.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:05

Okay, before then, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:07

And so we go and he said, Yeah, yeah, I see a little. And me and my brother probably was bullshitting with the uh test.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:14

Trying to get glasses. I did the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

Trying to, you know, and so he said, All right, and um he he gave us some glass.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:24

I'm trying to think, did he No, he dilated y'all.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

Yeah, he dilated our eyes first. He dilated our eyes. But I'm seeing, I I want to say, did we have to order the glasses and come back, or did he just give us something that I think he gave us something that same day?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

And then when y'all went home.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

Yeah, so but before we even got home. So we dilated our eyes, and we never had that. So that's why we missed the test. That's why we failed the test. So he dilated our eyes and then put us through the vision test. And that's the wrong, wrong order. Wrong order. And so we can't see shit. And so we look in and we I hear, I hear Kirk. We said we both at the same time. I can't see nothing. Blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blind or blind. We both crying up. We blind, we can't see. Yo, shut up, shut up, sit in there, take that test, shut up, and we go there and cry. I can't see, I think I about six. So Kirk about ten. Yeah. No, a little older than that. So let's say, let's say ten and oh, no. Yeah, about eight. We're about eight. Okay. So about eight and twelve. And we couldn't see nothing. I'm talking about nothing. And so then we got these glasses. That's what we had some glasses. They were the same glass. In the military, they call them BCs, which are birth control um glasses. They say, because if you if you want nobody wants you to know those glasses. And the glasses are similar to uh like tortoise shell version of like the Dahmer, Jeffrey Dahmer glasses. Like that. What the old like Magum P.I. and all them, you know, used to wear back in the days. And that's what they look like. And they were so thick. The lens was so thick. So we're driving back through the tunnel, and we couldn't see nothing. Normally, like we looking at the tunnel, and it looked like we finna go into the wall because everything was white. So we just saw the whole little magnification of the tunnel. And we get home and we like, we cannot wear these glasses at school. We can't wear nowhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:16

Well, your daddy came home. Yeah, we okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:19

We get home and we had them glasses on. We talked, Daddy, we can't see this. Get them damn glasses out their face. No, that's what he told me when he told Curry.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:28

He said, What has happened to my family? What is it? What is going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Cause we up in there like this.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

Like Stevie Wanda. We looking around.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:41

Our eyes, we can't see nothing. And you know, dilation medication back then was like for oh, you feel like your eye was dilated for a day. Yeah. A whole week. And so we sitting there looking around. Because you know how when you try to look at something, you like, and we looking at TV.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

And Calvin Harris like, what is happening to my family? What is going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:00

We all looking crazy. I I was definitely like, because Kurt was looking like, and then anybody coming, he goes, I bet your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:07

I bet your mouth's like, ain't nothing right with them, Calvin.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

They just act, they just because you hear, you hear, but you ain't you don't know, it's like in the dark.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

So what should the person again?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

You hear somebody come in the door, you know, sitting on where the couch is at.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

Oh my god. I'm telling you, they must have gave us all bad insurance. Cause I remember when I went to my eyeglass place, they gave me like it seemed like 100 tests. Yeah. So by the time I got to the test with the doctor, yeah, I couldn't see.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:40

I'm telling you, that my eye, I was gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

I feel like I'm walking on mountains.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

We had to come down them stairs.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:49

I promise y'all, ain't nobody but black folks got that kind of insurance.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:53

We had to come down the stairs outside. We was tripping. We couldn't see the nuts.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

Well, nobody but black folks got bad insurance like that. I'm telling you, it was just us.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

So happy to go to the doctor too and get blind. I was, I probably wouldn't even need glass to this day.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:09

I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Had he not messed me up.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:11

I was like, what? Something's wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:14

My pupil still dilated.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

That's why he got stigmatized, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:19

Right. He done stigmat up. Stigmatized. He done stigmatized, man. God dang. Mess me up. Oh my God. I'm talking we didn't. Huh? I'm trying to look at the TV. Straight like that. Oh Kurt. Oh my god. Trying to see who at the door.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:41

Lord, have mercy.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

We couldn't see nothing. That's hilarious. My mama tried to kill us, boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

She did. And this girl acts like the wrong with y'all. Ain't nothing wrong with y'all.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:51

Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with it. Y'all can see.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

Y'all can fake.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:53

Y'all can fake. We all there. We we had prescription readers. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:59

Lord Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:01

So uh I don't even know how we got on there from pollen to the eyes. The pollen in the eyes. But anyhow, that's my side eye.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:12

Oh my gosh. I don't really have a side eye this week. I was trying to think of something, but um, yeah, I don't know. The pollen was really my side eye this week because it was just terrible. I didn't think I had allergies, but it's some super pollen out there. So some of super sperm.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

That's a song. You play that tree sperm.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:34

Anyways, that pollen got me this week. So I'm side eye on the pollen as well.

Gratefulness And Staying Unbothered

SPEAKER_01 1:19:39

Yeah. Okay. So gratefulness. What are you grateful for?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

Ooh, wee. What am I grateful for? Um, you know what I'm grateful for? The cadence in my voice.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:56

Oh, that's what that lady told you.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:58

I've you know what, I'm grateful for that because for so many years, and I know I've said this before, y'all say, here she go again. Um, but I am grateful for that because for so many years, when I was in high school, I was told, and I heard through the grapevine and through many people that my voice was annoying. And look at me with this voice that people want to hear um and enjoy when I am presenting. My job is presenting, that's what I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:30

What the devil meant for wrong, God said, give it to me and make it for good. Yes, hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. That's what he did.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:40

So, anywho, I'm grateful for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:42

Good gratefulness.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:44

Yep, that I didn't let it dim my light.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:46

Don't let it. He said, You know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

I'm gonna show, but I've always been that. You say that, listen, I'ma show you boo-boo. And I'm showing. I don't know whoever said it. What are you grateful for?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:00

Um let's see. I'm grateful that uh I'm unbothered.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:10

Don't be unbothered. Don't be unbothered.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:13

I am unbothered. You know, like um, I don't know if that was this week or last week when you know we were talking about the trend and my transfer. Yeah. And the admin find when the admin finally came and talked to me.

unknown 1:21:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:23

I said, they say you're in good spirits.

unknown 1:21:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:26

I was like, how should I be about you being transferred? I said, yeah, I said, and it's not the prime situation, it's not what I would have picked, chosen.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:35

I said, but, you know, hey, I still got a job. And I said, and it looks like I'm needed at the school that I'm going to. That's uh I'm getting ready to enjoy this. And Miss T said, oh, he's getting ready to kick the dough down for you. He's gonna kick his foot on that dough and the whole dough gonna fall off.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Say it, T. Say it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:52

No, and I said that's true. So um, you know, I'm I'm grateful that uh that I'm unbothered.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:58

And you know what? That goes with what I posted on my Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

What you posted.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:02

I'm convinced that showing up every single day with a good attitude puts you ahead of 95% of people.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:08

Yep. So And so I'm I'm grateful for that. I can I'm I I can do that. That's one thing about me. In any situation or position, I can get in there and smile and be, you know, as friendly as I need to be in the heat of competition or whatever to my enemy. Speaking to them as if they are for me. Uh, I'm grateful I can do that. Anytime, any place.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:35

That's a blessing.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:36

So, what are you looking forward to?

Spring Break Plans And New Opportunities

SPEAKER_02 1:22:38

Child, spring break, baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:40

Um, I'm just looking forward to uh some time to do what I want to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:46

What's that?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

Um, I don't know. That's what they asked. We had a team meeting all day Friday and planning. We're planning things. And they said, Well, Craig, what are you doing this weekend? I said, working. And I don't know. Whatever happens, happens. And so, um, yeah, I don't have any plans. Um, just living the life.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:08

Yep. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:09

That's it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

Yeah, I'm looking forward to a spring break for sure. Um, like you said, we uh right now we don't plan on going nowhere or doing nothing.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:20

Yeah. Well certainly we got time.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:22

I mean, we'll do something. We'll do something. We don't know if we're going nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:25

But we're not going on it right now, it don't seem like we're going to a vacation. Possibly.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

So.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:30

But yeah, right now it looks like the hotel will be our Yeah, it looks like it's our room.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:36

Maybe we'd figure out a staycation, a n a nice hotel one day that that does early check-in and late checkout. Yeah. To have a full data benefited.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:44

That'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

You know, something. Yeah. But who knows? Um, but that's what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to spring break. It's gonna be great. Um just relaxing, getting some things done around the house that I'm definitely gonna get done.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:57

And after spring break, it's almost over.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:01

I'm looking forward to uh about what, six weeks of school left after that?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:05

Yeah. I'm looking forward to uh after I talked to Claude doing some more hip hop hairy stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:11

Definitely looking forward to doing that.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:13

Y'all.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:14

Um so I'll be doing some more hip hop hairy uh appearances. Um, you know, I'll pop up on social media uh doing some stuff there. Mm-hmm. So uh and I get paid to do it, so that's what's awesome. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:29

Blessing opportunities, which we prayed for.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:32

But that's what, you know, that's coming up next month.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:35

So Favor ain't favorite. Show feels fabulous.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

Fabulous. I can say good enough again, but it is good enough. And that's and it's more than good. No, yeah, it is. It's it's fantabulous.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:49

Um, but that's it. I might try to watch a movie today. Um, I wish I can't wait to watch that one movie. That killing movie, what I said, and they kill us, or I don't know. What's the name of that movie?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:02

I feel like the whole time I have not looked at the camera, I've looked at that board.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:05

Yeah, and I was looking at the speaker.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:07

I think you need to put it behind me.

Ginger Honey Tea Tip And Goodbye

SPEAKER_01 1:25:08

I don't know what happened. I was I was looking at the speaker in the plant the whole time. That's crazy. Okay, but anyway, uh let's go. Let's get up out of here. Got some good tea from the market.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:23

Oh, yeah, we went to Nam Dam.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:25

Yeah, the um Asian International Market.

unknown 1:25:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:28

Yeah. And y'all need to try this stuff. It's a it's in a jar is ginger, honey, and sometimes either lemon or whatever. We bought uh some kind of pear, and I bought some more the ginger honey. And you just you can scoop it up and put it in a cup and just like put your hot water and drink that, or you can put it with your tea. It's great, you know, for it is so good. Yeah, it's so good. It's it helps um has a lot of vitamin C in it, so it boosts your uh immune system in you know, times of pollen, uh, has you know, B vitamins from, of course, the honey and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

I can't even believe that's like not at a tea shop.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:05

We're meant to we're meant to have a tea conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:07

That's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:09

Slash shoe store. That's something Keemani, I don't know about a shoe store.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:12

I always wanted to own a women's shoe store.

unknown 1:26:14

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:15

Okay. So um Kimani is, you know, you the best baker. But I just think that'd be really cool. Like that would, I've not seen that. There probably is somewhere that does it, but man, that would put you a step above.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:29

And let's call it. Oh, I can't say it on here. Oh, don't say it. Somebody steal it.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:33

Don't say it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:33

Don't say it. Almost gave y'all some free game. But don't do it. Almost said, Don't do it. Almost sick. We got play. Yeah, let's get off of here because we about to go out.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:47

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:48

Yeah. Um, be quiet. Be quiet.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:51

God dang.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:52

Be quiet. That's what I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:54

Okay, come on, come on, let's wrap it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:55

All right. So, y'all, we gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:58

This is the Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kifla and the crew. And we enjoy y'all, and we'll see you when we see peace.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:18

The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.