Let Your Kids Go So They Grow

A 13-year-old wants to go to the movies with friends and her mom says yes only if she can sit there and watch them. The friend backs out immediately, and that one text thread opens a bigger question: are we protecting kids, or preventing them from growing? We break down what “gradual release” actually looks like, how to set expectations without smothering, and why trust is built through consistency, not constant surveillance.

Then we zoom out to something we see every day in education and at home: the growing disconnect between adults and kids. When the default answer is “good” and everyone has earbuds in, real communication dies fast. We share practical ways to get teens talking with simple clarifying questions, plus how teachers can build relationships inside the standards instead of treating connection like an extra task. Yes, we even talk about using AI to help plan those moments without derailing instruction.

We also get into mental health and solitude. Being alone for a weekend can be healthy self-regulation, especially when the world feels too loud, too bright, and too constant. But we draw a clear line between restorative solitude and harmful isolation. Finally, we react to a shocking headline about a former pro athlete accused of murder, and we end with our usual real-life check-in, including chaotic HVAC quotes, a Chipotle ordering fail, gratitude, and what we’re looking forward to next.

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Welcome back, everyone. Thank you for tuning in to the Refreshingly Normal podcast. I am Kefla.

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I am Cree.

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And we are your favorite uncle and auntie.

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Yes.

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The one that you love to talk to.

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Mm-hmm. Ask advice from.

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Share tea with.

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Mm-hmm.

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Or anything. So um, thank y'all for tuning in. We are on episode 39.

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This is 39?

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Yeah. 39. Well, you better hurry up. I know. I was kind of waiting for 40 to be the new season. That's the change of the seasons. You know what I'm saying? So we're gonna make it pop. But it should it be 40 and then 41 the new or 40 the new? Because when you start, it's not episode zero. Start as episode one.

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Why are you choosing 40?

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I don't know, because it's like an even break as opposed to just saying episode 37, then second season starts at 36 or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't know. It's just an even break.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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You could do 50.

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I mean you can.

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Because then you could do 50, and then the next 50 would be 100 episodes.

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So yeah, all that good stuff. But um, thank y'all, man. We uh are here. We got a good, a good um plethora. Not a plethora. Well, it actually was some news that I was, you know, sorting through to find great topics for this week.

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Yeah.

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But um some stuff I'm gonna say for the next next episode. It's gonna be a little juicier. Yeah. So tell me about your week.

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Um my week um was somewhat busy. Um I had a lot of clients canceled this week.

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Yeah, it's the getting back from spring break, man. So um yeah. It's tough.

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Listen, it was tough for me too. So I can't say that I was too upset when the cancels came through.

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Yeah.

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Um, but this week I did a couple of walkthroughs in some schools to check out their zones things, how they were doing with that. Okay. And um, I had a parent workshop on zones. Okay. Um that went really well. I was on fire.

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All right. Fire. Fire.

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All right. So anywho, that went where la la la. That went really well. And then today, um, there was the um honor convocation um at Alabama State for our son Kimani.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. State.

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He has actually been an honor student his whole college career.

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That's right. So um unlike his dad.

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Yeah.

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So I was an honorable student. No, uh, no, not my whole college career.

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Yeah.

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My second half of my college career, I was an honorable student.

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Yeah. So, yeah, I made the dean's list a few times.

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No, I made the dean's list later.

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Yeah. But not the beginning.

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No. When I first started, my first semester.

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Yeah.

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Before we got grades, I was on D. I was.

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Whose list was you on?

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I was a straight A student before we before my grades came out.

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Oh, yeah, you were. We all were.

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Yeah, but then them grades came out.

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And then it was reality.

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Yes, indeed.

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So did that, and um that was nice to be able to celebrate him. Um, I called it my mental health day because of my mental health day. Um that filled my cup. Not only that, a few people on campus as we were, we did a photo shoot for his graduation too.

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For invitations.

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Invitations, yeah. So graduation photos for his invitations. So we did a few places on campus, but that also filled my cup and brought me joy because there were other people that were like, oh, Kimani's so nice, we just love him. Um, so um that was really good just to be able to do that today. So um I enjoyed um that. Now I have driven all day. So I got up this morning, still did my workout at five, then got dressed, got on the road, drove three hours, did the thing, was a photographer, did some lunch, did some other things to get him squared away, and drove three hours back. And now I'm live with y'all.

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Good job. Good job. Welcome, welcome to the driving.

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Yeah, so yeah. So, anywho, um, did that today, and I have a couple of clients to see tomorrow. Um, but again, I had a couple that um canceled my earlier ones, so it'll be nice. I won't have to start until 11.

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That's good.

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Um, so yeah, so that means I can sleep in just a wee bit um before seeing anybody. So, other than that, I'm trying to think about the rest of the week. Anything else that was standout-ish, but I don't think so. I think that was about it for the week. Just trying to stay awake all week after spring break. And I was tired. I was like with a client, and I got a bloom like energy drink. That thing did not, it I was like, bloom, are you working? Did not even work. The only thing that my body needed was rest. I'm sure. It's like, girl, please put this down. This is not gonna help you.

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I feel you on that.

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So, um, yeah, so I was really like tired this week, but uh anywho made it through. It is the Friday and tomorrow's the weekend, and so it's the weekend, baby. Weekend, baby. So that's my week. How about your week?

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Mine was tiring too. Um didn't really sleep good this week. Um, I don't know. I know my stress level has been up because my jaw has been clenching a hole all week. Um, I gotta get that checked because it's starting to lock back up. Yeah. But if you're going too, she's uh she'll be there. Yeah.

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I think it's part of your excitement of this weekend too.

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No, it's no, my job is like was locking up a little bit last week too. Oh, okay. Yes, um, serious.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But no, um the stuff, I mean, for this week, yeah, the stuff I gotta do tomorrow is gonna be great, you know. Um I'm gonna be tired a little bit, so I pray that I could sleep on the plane and get enough energy. I know I'll have energy when I get there, plus I'll have some red bullshit.

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You always sleep on the plane.

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Yeah, you're supposed to.

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I don't think you're gonna have a problem.

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No, I mean, yeah, but I'm hoping, well, I guess I should say I hope that the sleep that I get on the plane. Is good sleep. Yes, it's restless, you know. Restful sleep. Um, but um, we'll see. And I'm I'm positive about it. I think it will be. Um but uh those quotes is something else that was getting all those quotes, that was kind of stressful.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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You know, kind of stressful, it's very stressful. Because you gotta make a decision, and decision is not I'm not gonna say it's not in our favor, but it's not ideal.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Ideal would be like you said, you you know, you don't want to stretch out a a loan payment of a getting a twenty, thirty thousand dollar HVAC system.

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Yeah, and what's it's just not ideal because it's just so pricey. And people keep telling us, well, that's too much. And um, but then their square feet for their home is half the size of ours. It's half the size of ours. So then it make when they say how much they paid, if we double what they got for the size of our home, then it is the amount that people are quoting us. Some are a little extreme.

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Yeah, some are.

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But the median is right there.

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If you double, if you double the price of the quote, you know, think about the the what's name is gonna double to the labor. So everything is is sitting where it's kind of is.

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Yeah, it's when people when I've told people like my mom and some of the ladies I work with, they're like, what? But then their homes are not the same size. So, yeah, so it makes sense. It's just something you're like, damn, I want to do that. Yeah, two at two at the same time.

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You know, you your AC and your furnace. So it's like, good Lord. Great. So if anybody out there that uh has an AC or furnace company, and you're looking for a couple of views and uh sponsorships, come on over. Come on over and uh come on over. You know, we'll say your name on this thing every day. We'll wear a little name tag from your company right there, you know. But um that's that part of my week.

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I got something going off. That's part of my week.

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Yeah, come on over, all right. All right and um what else? Everything's else, you know, school was school. And I didn't go to the gym because I had to come home and yeah, dance. Dance, I said. Yeah. And so I had to rehearse for uh uh Bow Wizzle, doing some stuff with some live shows. Uh so you know, my my my peeps that really know me know how I perform when I was the mascot at Alabama State. You know, and then you know, my my tenure as hip hop Harry, and then now uh a new venture, um Bowizel, um for Doggy Land Productions. So I'm like the animated Snoop Dogg or the the the the the costume, Snoop Dogg costume. So I'm in there. And this I had to get all this routine, I mean the all this choreography done and stuff. And I, you know, I got I got it a little bit. I had to do my thing, you know. I didn't get a chance to use my ant vib, you know. But uh uh yeah, so I still exercise, I guess I should say. Yeah, and um that's pretty much it for this week. But uh let's get to some craziness.

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Yeah, if I look tired, guys, it's because I am.

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Because she had to drive.

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Not just the driving, it just was a field day.

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She had to drive, guys.

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I did, and I was and I'm tense, I really need a massage. My shoulders are so tight to everybody because you know there's crazy drivers on the road. Yeah, so it just had me so like tense.

Parenting Freedom And Movie Outings

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All right, so let's talk some stories. So y'all know we're in the business of education. We've all we've both been in the classrooms, um, you know, uh various levels. I've been on every level, and she's been um elementary.

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But I work with middle and high school.

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But I mean, yeah, that's what I meant. Well, yeah, elementary, and then but she now works with everyone, middle, high school, all over, and you know, admin and adults. So she's been there. Um done that. Been there, done that.

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Every day.

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So we're always uh offering advice or seeing perspectives. Um the parent side, the kids' side.

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And the staff.

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And the staff side. And so I found a great story, well, actually, like two good stories today. Um one is about a mom and her kid's friends. Another one's about a mom and her kid, who probably lost her friends because of mom. And then we got a uh or story that I just it's interesting.

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We got a lot of stories today.

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Yeah. We're supposed to. So let's start with this one. Which, well, I'm gonna do your tactic. Any, mini, mining mo, what she always does. Tell them what you always do when you can't change the phone.

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If I can't decide, I do any, mini, mining mo. So if I were trying to decide, are we gonna eat Chick-fil-A or are we gonna eat or have pizza? So I'm saying you pizza, I'm Chick-fil-A. In the minute, Mine Moe, catch, tackle by so if house let him go, in the minimum, my mo. My mother told me to pick the very best one, and you are not it. So he was pizza, so it means we're having Chick-fil-A.

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And she'll do that done with the mango margarita or the regular house margarita.

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Any mining mini mo. And that helps me make my decision.

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Yeah. She could just say, hey, Siri, flip a coin, heads or tails, or hey Siri, pick A or B. Which one is it?

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I could, but my Siri, for one, doesn't work on my phone. Two, I like any mini mini meth.

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I see. All right, mini mining moes. Did y'all ever do when you say put your foot in engine engine number nine?

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Going down the something line if the train jump off the track.

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We say country line. And some people say going down Chicago line. If the train jump the track, do you want your money? Money back. And then say yes. And then what you say?

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Y-E-S spells yes, and you are not in. Uh uh.

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We'll say Y-E-S spells yes and I no, it was yeah, or in O. I know we say N-O spells no and out you may go with the dirty dirty. This is right on your right and left toe.

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I never heard of that. And I believe he made it up right now. Or that's it. All right, all right, here we go. Perfect commentary.

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Ladies and gentlemen, or if you have heard of what I just said, N-O says no and out you may go with the dirty dirty. This is right on your right and left toe. Please uh put a foot in the comment. If you can't put a foot in the comment, just write, yes, I've heard of it. Keefla is right, thumbs up, anything like that.

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Again, all the comments will come from Foley.

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Because we had a great childhood. In Wichita, y'all didn't do nothing. Hide and seek. You know what hide and seek meant? Hey, y'all, we're gonna play hide and seek. Oh, okay. And then they ain't gonna have nowhere to hide. Because they ain't had no infrastructure there. And you can see them everywhere.

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Listen.

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Y'all remember she said they ain't had no doors in the house.

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I did not say that. Remember that? So I did not say that. I said I did not have a door on my bedroom.

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So when but you didn't have no real childhood to play like we did back in Folio.

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But I did have a door when I was in the ninth grade.

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Did y'all do bubblegum bubblegum in the dish?

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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But I don't remember the rhyme.

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Bubblegum, bubblegum in the dish. How many pieces do you wish? And you say ten. You go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And you just go from there. Oh. Yeah. And you out.

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Yeah.

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Uh-huh.

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Mm-hmm.

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See? Y'all wouldn't have known what to do if y'all have came to Foley during the summer to play. Y'all d's y'all mind.

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First of all, also to Foley.

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Just to say that.

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The toe thing, is that really how it goes? Or is he just making up words?

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Isn't that what I just said?

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What?

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I just said that. If that's what I if that's what we did in Foley, say so.

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And yeah. And is he making up words? If he making up words, what symbol should we put? Put a clown. Because he a clown for making up making up little rhymes that wasn't even a thing. If y'all did it, if y'all did it and he right, then you can put a foot. But if y'all were like, what the heck? Nope.

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Even if you're not from Foley, if what if you recognize what I said, and that was right, wherever you from, all over the world, but put a foot.

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If you like, what the hell before?

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If I'm wrong, put a clown.

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Can I finish?

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But if if y'all also agree with me that Wichita, y'all, y'all probably know Wichita ain't never had no kind of infrastructure and outdoor excitement. Put a door right there with a little poof of smoke, like it disappeared.

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No. Don't do that. Put a clown. And if anybody put a door and a poof of smoke, I'm coming for you.

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Y'all know we're telling the truth.

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I'm coming for you. You put a door and some smoke if you want to.

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Y'all ain't had no. Y'all couldn't even hide. What could y'all hide at? Nowhere.

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Child.

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Nowhere. No hiding at all.

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Get with your Lord. All right.

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Let me read this story, man. You over here tripping, man. Alright, so this one here, okay, I'm gonna read this one about the about the mom what she told her daughter.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

What's the title of the story?

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The title of the story is A Mom's Response to Her Teen Going to a Movie Alone went viral. And now it's making everyone question their own childhood.

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A mom. Say it again.

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A mom's response to her teen.

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Who wants to go to the movie by themselves?

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Well, she wanted to go to the movie alone, but not necessarily by herself.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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What does alone mean without her mom alone?

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I'm getting ready to get there.

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Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Okay. You want to just keep asking questions so that it'll get the whole story out. All right. So um there was this parent, okay? She posted the tweet herself, and it was a conversation between her daughter, who is 13 years old, and one well, and her daughter's friends, okay? So the friend was asking if the daughter could go to the movies with her. The mother posted the caption and she said, the mother said, My daughter is now 13. I'm sorry, my daughter's 13 now, and has started to ask to go places with her friends. Am I doing too much by not allowing her to go unless I'm there? And then she asked with a groaning face emoji. I hate to be the strict mom. Okay. So the screenshot.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

She's 13?

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The daughter is 13.

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Okay.

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Okay. She wanted to go with her friends.

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Okay.

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And but like the mom said, you know, she's not allowing her to go unless she's there.

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Okay.

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All right. So here's the screenshot. The screenshot says, Hey Kaylee's mom. I was wondering, will Kaylee be able to go to the movies with me tomorrow? The mom said, Hey, what time? The kid said, 4:30. The mom said, Okay. I'll see if I'm available to be there. I don't just drop her off. I have to stay and watch y'all. So then the kid texts back, it's okay. She doesn't have to go.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Well, she said what she said.

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And so people are saying, yes, you're doing too much. They the people commented on the mom, because mom posted this. So she said, Yes, one lady said, Yes, you're doing too much. Strict parents create sheltered children who sneak around and hide important things from them. It's okay to be worried, but it's not going to end okay if you're keeping her from having necessary experiences with her peers. It's good for her development. Another person said, This is so crazy to me because the cinema is literally the place where 13-year-olds hang out. That's like their main customers.

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Yeah.

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And one person said, drop off and pick off. I would get dropped off at the movies or the mall, set time for pickup, never got in trouble. And my parents were strict. Once I went to college, I went wild because I was finally free, LOL. Too much supervision isn't good either.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

Yeah. And then also nowadays, like you don't need to be there. Like if she has a phone, I mean, most parents now have 360 on the phone, so you know if she left or she's not there.

SPEAKER_05 20:58

Right.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

Um, and you can sit in the parking lot. I mean, like if you're really worried about if she leaves or if somebody can grab her or kidnap her, then you can stay in the parking lot. And then, you know, we have our phones for entertainment or or whatever. You can sit out there and wait, but you don't need to be in the movie with them. That's just a little too much. Um, but remember, remember when the nieces and cousins went to the movies in Foley? And um Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But we went to pick them up. And we they weren't there or they didn't come out.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

It was, yeah, it was some. They were supposed to be they were gone or something, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:41

Somebody was gone. And then the cousins or nieces wouldn't tell on the cousin who wasn't there or was doing something else. And nobody was wanting to be the um snitch. That was a funny night. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Cocoa.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Who else was there? Was it uh Was Jessica there?

SPEAKER_02 22:04

No, no, I think it was Sponky Coco. And uh it was was one of these girls there.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

Maybe. Maybe. I forget how many. I feel like it was like four or four.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Yeah, it was like four of them.

SPEAKER_04 22:17

Uh-huh. And they did not want to see what they're doing.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Or was it that we was at the movies?

SPEAKER_04 22:22

No, we didn't go. We were at the house, and then somebody went to go get them, and they couldn't find them, or they wouldn't say where somebody was. And so somebody else went up there. We was like, Well, put it like this.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

I know I was at the movies. So I don't know if I was one of the ones that would get them. Maybe. I know.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

But we weren't, we weren't.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

I was at the movies because I remember them hanging outside and we was like, well, y'all need to figure out what and they came creeping around.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

Yeah. Because one was missing.

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But I don't know who else it was.

SPEAKER_04 22:50

Yeah. Yes, I remember that. But that's like teenage years. Yeah. And those people who responded are absolutely correct. Like, I feel like there's a gradual, gradual release that we do as parents.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

Yeah, you have to.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

Because at some point you have to prepare them to be out in the world. And so it doesn't mean that you're still not looking over or after them. Yeah. But you have to allow bits of freedom as they go on so that when they do get out, that they're don't get all wild and crazy because they don't know what freedom feels like. So you do have to be like gradually release so that um where it's, I guess, developmentally appropriate. Because there are some who gradually release and they like, wait, like we like, wait, you do it. They're back in. Yeah, rule them back in. You're giving them too much freedom too soon. Um, because sometimes parents will give it and they haven't given them the tools or talk to them about some of the things. Maybe they don't have enough um common sense. And so that needs to grow and become better. Age is it's age is an age, but some kids um maybe 13 but act more like 10 years old. Yeah. So I think it depends also on your child um what they're ready for. But I think this mom specifically is just scared of um of the world for her child, which makes sense because I mean, we do.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

There's a lot of craziness out there.

SPEAKER_04 24:27

There's a lot of craziness out there, but um you can't hide them from it because I think that's what also increases their lack of common sense and their naiveness and that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

And stuff like that's gotta let them build some resilience in it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

Um and talk about what's your expectation. Yeah, what are your what this is what this is my expectations for the movie. This is what I expect. When movie's over, I expect to see you out here at this time. And then if they don't, you know.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

I'm trusting you. What are you gonna do to make sure I can continue to trust you or not?

SPEAKER_04 25:01

You got you have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

The ball's in your court. You know, yeah. But um, I know, and I know some people say, well, it only takes one time for something to happen, and then you know. Well, that's true. But you know, but at yeah, I do believe you do have to give your child um an opportunity. But you also have as a parent have to be um doing the right things. And you can't start when they're 12, you can't start with a 10. Hopefully, you've already started from the beginning of time, you know what I'm saying? From the inception all the way to everything else, and stay consistent. Um, but you know, even if you okay, let's just say you for people who just come into their kids' life or just got it together or just got it right, just figured out, okay, I can't do this, and your child is around 10, or you go from wherever you are and you just be consistent from where you are. You have to. Um The problem a lot of parents have is they stop parenting and start friending kids, or they just stop parenting and they're not even friending and they feel like, okay, it's your time. Uh you're a parent as long as that person is alive. You know, and as a child, because as a I'm speaking for myself, you do have to understand that you're still your parents' child. They're still thinking kind of that, you know, sometimes in certain aspects, they the protective um aspect of it all. And I understand that. Um, you know, even more so as I became, you know, an older parent. Um, but you have to, parents, you have to just let your kids uh experience things, explore, you know. But like like, you know, you said, you know, Chris said, you if you gotta, you know, push back a little bit or or pull over to the corner or know where she is, and not saying you gotta stalk them, but just know, you know, hey, Mama Bear is right here if something pop off, you know, I'm I'm right here. Um and then after a while, you'll be like, you know what, she's handling that.

SPEAKER_04 27:11

Yeah. When you and then eventually she'll get comfortable. Yeah, it's kind of is that that to me is also still because obviously it's difficult for her to do the gradual release. So she's for so for her, it is sitting in my car in a parking lot. And then then maybe she'll go, well, I'll do some things around in the area.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

That's what somebody said. Somebody said, my mom's drop us off and run errands. Yeah. And then we have meetup spots, and every so often she would like at the mall, be like, okay, well, if if I'm at the mall, my mom's at the mall, I meet y'all at food court at 12, you know, then move on. I meet y'all back here at two, you know. Um, our mom used to do that when they we would go to the mall for Christmas shopping.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

When everybody was there, you know. She'd be like, all right, y'all, meet me back here, here. And meet me here at this time. And so we we would do that. Um, but you gotta you gotta do it because you see what happened. That little girl said, Well, she ain't gonna she don't have to go.

SPEAKER_06 28:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

So now she's gonna miss out. She's probably embarrassed.

SPEAKER_06 28:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

Because if the mom didn't share the text with her, she's like, dang, I thought I was gonna go to the movie. Then Kaylee said, Oh no, your mom was tripping. So or she ghosted because she didn't want to embarrass the little girl. So uh you you have a lot more problems on the on that um back end if you don't take care of the stuff in the front.

SPEAKER_04 28:24

Um, and I will say I the part of you saying being consistent, that's so funny because I said that in my parent workshop about being consistent. Um because if you do the hard work on the front end, then you have less work to do on the back end. So consistency is key, but I think it's also like lots of people aren't talking to their kids either. So when your kids are saying, Hey, how was your day? And they're like, It was good, then that's not good enough.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Everybody's in the phones. Yeah, like I mean, being for real, at the dinner table, yeah, people are in their phones and the cars. What do we see when we see kids riding in the cars with their parents? They're in the backseat on their tablets. But what what do you see though? Like you you may not see them on their tablets, but you see Heads down? You or you're gonna see what?

SPEAKER_04 29:15

Oh, their headphones on.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Pretty much all the time.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

But you know what's funny? All the time. I have one of my clients, and she always has her headphones on when we have our sessions. She has one ear on and one off. And I thought maybe she just had them on, uh, but she actually has music playing. Um and so we're doing our session, and there is I didn't realize that until she said something the other day, and I was like, so she actually got music going while we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

And they miss they missing valuable information. Yeah, they're not really paying full attention.

SPEAKER_06 29:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

And I'm telling you, like in class all the time, we said, take your headphones off. And kids now wear thick, thick hair, long, or like you know, a lot of the fellas with the locks and um the girls now they'll have their hair pulled, they rarely wear them back, so they can hide their headphones, their earbuds, I mean earbud pods and stuff, earbuds. And all the time. Yeah, all the time. It was a little girl, she her hair was all in her face so much the whole semester, and then I saw her on Tuesday and I looked, I said, Who is that? Yeah, I live because she had a little ponytail, one of them long ponytail. I said, Who is that? And I looked at the seating chart, I said, I ain't never seen her face. Like literally, all you seen was like right here.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Yeah, because her bangs are.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Yeah, and then you listen, they just looking through the little hair and stuff, and so but they always have earbuds in. And so there's no communication on long drives, nothing.

SPEAKER_04 30:44

So that's that's my thing. Don't just let them answer with the good or whatever. Ask some clarifying questions, like, well, what made it good? Like, what was the best part of the day? What was something that happened that wasn't? I mean, like, ask more questions so that you can know a little bit more. Um, because there are lots of, I don't know, hopefully this is not a trend, but I've noticed lots of kids who um, because of the phones and because of the conversations not happening, that they are um there's a breakdown in parent to child relationships.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

I've heard parents, they email us. Like we was talking, you know, about one of my classes where the parent was, you know, asking us, you said, I don't know what to do with my daughter. And they'll say, like, well, they just don't talk to me. And so they just like they'll say, uh, hey, what how did it was school? And they say, it was fine. And that's all they say to me. I don't know what else to say. I'll say, keep talking, keep asking questions. Keep asking questions, keep, you know, I'm saying, like, just throwing things out there. You know, eventually they're gonna talk. Like, why do you why do why do you not want to talk to me? You know, all that kind of stuff. But you got parents now, man, and they really just like, well, teenagers, they're just difficult and they leave it alone.

SPEAKER_04 32:02

That's not true.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

They leave it alone. And we're we're the same, I'm not gonna say the exact same, but it's just is parents, my parents had the same situation sometime when, well, not with me, because you know, we was like, oh, you ain't gonna talk. All right. You bet not ask for nothing. You're like, can I get some? What are we eating? And then they ignore you because you ignored them earlier. So, but it's we everybody had their own kind of problems, but they were very similar. You know, when you really look look down to it. Um, but I don't know. All right, let's move on. Okay, you got one more?

How To Talk So Kids Talk

SPEAKER_04 32:36

No, no, I was just gonna say, but for parents, that's not an excuse because some of your children are at school make making connections with some of their teachers and people. And if they can go to a therapist and disclose and talk about all the things with the therapist, then they can talk to you too. So yeah, don't just take a good and uh I don't want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

I think I honestly do think it's like being being in the high school setting, I'm seeing a big disconnect between adults and kids. A huge disconnect.

SPEAKER_04 33:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Between adults and kids.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Well, the one thing though, what I've when I've had my trainings and different things, um a lot of teachers, um I don't think they really care about building connect building relationships.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

We said this before, and I'm gonna tell you, like I said, in the classroom now, and and you say you gotta make time, five minutes, but this is the this is the running or this is the consensus coming from teachers. We don't have time. There's so much there's a there's a pacing plan that teachers have now that the state mandates that they're graded on in their TEAKES evaluations and all that stuff where they gotta hit this standard, this standard, this standard, this standard. Like so much they have to do. And and I'm noticing, you know, more so now because I'm actually in those particular uh core classrooms and they're like, we don't even have like it's literally like I'm not taking that on to the next, on to the next, on to the next. Like they really are on to the next, on to the next, on to the next. You know what I'm saying? Okay, what are you saying?

SPEAKER_04 34:30

I hear what you're saying, but I'm not taking that for an excuse. I mean, it's it may not be one, but if you're being like in charge of And if people are saying, I understand, because you gotta get to this and this and this and this and that, then that's so you just mimic me like that. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

You know, team.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

I'm just saying. So when they have all people need is one person, they do, they do, they do need it, but no, these folks are getting threatened.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

I'm just saying that's what they're saying. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

When all they need is one person to co-sign and they're like, Yeah, I just have time, I just can't do it. And you you can be creative in the way that you are able to build connection and relationships through your content. Like it is possible to put a question in there that is um um connected to the content that you teach, but it also allows for a little conversation and personality that you haven't veered away from your content or standard that you have to do. But when you are planning this lesson, you're keeping that in mind. How can I in this lesson build a bit of relationship building within this um for like five minutes or so to build connection? You get that I think like that's what needs to happen.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

It might be.

SPEAKER_04 36:13

So I'm not taking that for an excuse.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

I mean, it that is what needs to happen, but I'm just saying from what I see.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

And I think that if they did that and it's connected to their, if you happen to have uh uh an admin that is like I need you, dah dah dah dah, dah, if you think of that and you're adding your relationship building within your um content and it's not veering far left and you're still pushing along, then you don't have to worry about antiques being um lower or whatever, because you haven't veered away from what you're doing, you've just enhanced it and you've enhanced it in a way that helps students feel connected to school, a whole other belonging to school, a whole connection with you when you do that.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

So it could work.

SPEAKER_04 37:04

It it definitely will work.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

I just I pray that they get some time to do it. So that's all I pray they get time to do it.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

Listen, one thing they could do because we got my boyfriend. You go on to chat and say, hey, here's my standard for the day. Here's my lesson. I would like to build a couple of questions in this um lesson for today that can help some relationship building with my students, but we don't veer away from the academic goal for the day.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:35

Chat will give you something.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

It will.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

And I'm done. You go to the next story.

Solitude Without Isolation

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Oh, if we're gonna end, okay. I'm gonna just go to the next story then. So the next story, we'll go to it. It says if any, I mean, if you can go an entire weekend without talking to anyone and feel fine, it is not necessarily a red flag. It's a form of self-sufficiency. Because being comfortable alone requires a kind of internal stability. Most people haven't developed. And so what's this story is basically saying, like, um sometimes you need a lone time. Yeah, it's it's okay to have alone time. All right. Um there's nothing, of course, we you know, know nothing's wrong with it, but somebody's always gonna find something wrong with everything. It's just life.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Um but especially people who are people people for the people that aren't, um, for the people that are the ones that want to be alone. Okay? Um just so you can feel better, and so people don't guilt trip you into being around folks all the time. Just know that it's okay. And so some things we're saying that you don't need external input to regulate your mood. Um sometimes it takes just you know, balance. Um, I know for me it's it really is like the world is it gets noisy. Um colors are too bright. Um things are just too stimulating.

SPEAKER_04 39:18

Love on the spectrum.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

And so I that's love on the spectrum. So it's uh, you know, it's okay. It's just like for anything. It's it's like just zoning in. That's why I like meditating. You know what I mean? I really like meditating.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

Do you remember when Kahari was little? Um, he would get overstimulated for a lot of people here at the house, and we look around and everybody like, where's Kahari? He'd be in his room by himself. Like there is a there was always like he'd have his he'd had his share of everybody, and then he'd go find his own little space.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Yep. So you sit with the feeling, you let it pass, you figure it out by yourself. Um, those kind of things are what people do. Um not because you're cold, but because you've had enough practice being alone with your feelings to know that it won't kill you, and your feelings won't kill you. All right. Another thing is your mind doesn't need noise to fill the space. Um, your mind isn't empty when you're alone, it's actually full.

SPEAKER_04 40:26

It is.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

Thoughts, daydreams, plans, memories. You have conversations with yourself, you entertain yourself. You don't need external stimulation because you generate your own. Um I know me, you know, my I'm my mind is always something. I I got that's I guess that's why I can do characters and stuff like that all the time, because I have so many people living inside of me.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

Schizophrenic.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Yes, I am schizophrenic. Um but you're never, you know, like you say, you're never alone. You just have all these different thoughts. Uh, you know that lonely and alone aren't the same thing.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

All right. Uh loneliness is the ache of disconnection, and solitude is the pleasure of your own presence. And I would love to know how many people can't enjoy solitude.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

I know. I love solitude.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Some people are afraid of solitude because they are afraid of themselves. Of their thoughts. Yeah, and they know like they have to be around people of um positive people a lot of times, because if not, they'll get into their thoughts and get back into those old ways or or or bad ways or negative ways. Um, I truly understand that for people. You having the experience is enough. You don't need others to see it. You know, so sometimes you can sit like and that's what's crazy to me. I could be the life of the party, but I also like to see the party. I like to experience it and just feel it and just like I don't need to be the one doing the things to entertain everyone. Sometimes I just want to be in it.

SPEAKER_03 42:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

You know, just be in the moment. Um, you faced your own demons and made peace with them. Now I ain't faced none of it. I don't have no demons. I'm saved and sanctified.

SPEAKER_04 42:24

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

I don't have no demons.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

I think everybody, and I I I think the the word the I think it's the word choice when they say demons, because that just seems like That's a deep word. That is a deep word. It's like you think, you know, of something very evil, but I think I I should say things You face your own issues.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

Yeah, like negative things with them.

SPEAKER_04 42:47

Negative things, things that um aren't are are putting you in harm's way or helping you, they're not helping you be your best self. So I don't know if I would necessarily some people may have some that are demons like, but of course, um, but some we all have um something to improve about ourselves or something that veers us off the track, you know, the the the successful track that we would want to be on. So maybe that thing.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

So like you've probably sat with those things, maybe in therapy, maybe on long drives, maybe in the quiet hours of the night.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Um in prayer.

SPEAKER_02 43:28

Yep, you looked at the hard parts of yourself and stopped running, you know. Um so that's one thing how people, you know, can do their alone time. You don't need I'm sorry, you don't see quiet as emptiness.

SPEAKER_06 43:41

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

Yeah, some people see where, oh, they're so quiet, well, they must be going through something.

SPEAKER_04 43:46

You know, sometimes you just want to be quiet.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yeah, quiet. It's just peace. It's the noise, especially now, and it's for me, like I said, the noise is just too loud. It's it's so much going on in the world.

SPEAKER_06 43:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

And it's too loud. Um And I'm an empath. So I take on the feelings of others because I want to try to be the fixer. And when it's so loud and there's nothing I can do about it, you know, and I'm stressed trying to figure out what could be done.

SPEAKER_06 44:14

Excuse me.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

And when I stop trying to fix stuff, I feel like I don't, I don't, and I had to tell myself, stop trying to fix everything. And then that other person on my shoulder is saying, Oh, you're quitting. And it's like, well, sometimes I guess it's not quitting, it's just taking myself out of the game, retiring or playing a new game. You know, so I think that's where just setting a boundary. That presence and stillness come from, yeah. All right, the next one is you don't need anyone else to tell you you're doing it right.

SPEAKER_04 44:47

Oh, yeah. So you're just confident in yourself. So you're not seeking accolades. And if if in order to get accolades, you gotta be around people. Yeah. To hear them say, good job, that's wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

But I think everybody should hear good job at least sometime in their life.

SPEAKER_04 45:04

You should hear it at least once a week.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah, but I'm just saying, you know, I ain't want to say But you know I don't think you should seek it, but I think it should you should Which means if everybody shares it.

SPEAKER_04 45:19

Which means that in order to hear a good job, you your intention should be doing a good job.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

There are some people who But even if your intentions are doing a good job.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

What if they aren't? But I'm saying around here lazy.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

What I'm saying is this What are you lazy? We still collectively it's like each one teach one. Everybody has to have that um presence or that action to say good job, to no notice the good job to someone.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Oh, to notice, yes. Like a compliment.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

Yes, because if everybody's intention is good but nobody's saying it, we never get the good job.

SPEAKER_04 46:03

So now I so I guess that that means part notice, yeah, noticing the good and being able to being able to say good job. Because the one thing I will not say, which I think we do harm in that, and we create enablement when we tell people good job, and they really didn't do a good job. So I don't believe in doing that, but I do like on purpose looking for that, like giving people those compliments and things, so noticing it.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

You saw the uh TikTok video of the little girl at Target.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

At Target Yeah was so good. Going around telling giving people compliments and certain things, yeah, like that. But it's because even with that, you also are you also are taking care of yourself because when you tell somebody good job or give them a compliment, it immediately makes them feel good. And then there the look on their face or how they respond, then you feel good about what you did. So it's like a give and take.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

You often hear that, like even on the on social media when you see people, there's a hey, you want to help me give money away or do something? Like I like I love when kids do that because then they say, Man, that felt so good. So a great deed makes them feel good. And it's it's it's you know, putting a feeling inside of them that makes them want to do it again and then again. And I love when they say that verbally because then somebody else said, Well, I want to feel good. And then they'll go and do something nice for someone.

SPEAKER_06 47:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

And then by a law of attraction, it comes back to you.

SPEAKER_06 47:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

You know, and so, yeah, but I think we have to um purposely, you know, make sure we're telling people, good job, or or just thanking people.

SPEAKER_03 47:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

You know, you know, I appreciate you. You know. What would you well I appreciate? I appreciate you. For what, Dr. Hare? I say, cuz you came in, you just do what you're supposed to do. You maintain your, you know, your uh your grades, you're doing exactly you, you got a great personality. I appreciate you. Oh, thank you. And they're like, I'm being thanked for just doing me. Yes, you are. So I think that's important. All right. Um I do one more.

SPEAKER_04 48:13

Okay. Um this is about being being alone, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Uh-huh. Being alone doesn't feel like something is missing. It doesn't feel like you stop caring. Doesn't feel like you don't um tolerate anyone. It's just you experience it as a form of freedom.

SPEAKER_04 48:35

Yeah. Some people do really feel like they need to have so many people around.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

They need somebody completely different.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

Um, they need it. I think it's yeah, it's like a feeling of like people want that popular feeling. And um, I've always been a person like I don't need a whole lot of people around. I just want um a good set of people around. Um, quality over quantity for me. But I also um think when we talk about this, there is also um it's okay to be alone, but not if it's isolation where you're running from something or avoidance of specific things or people in your life. Um, so I think that is where you gotta figure out to ensure that your alone time um doesn't become um how you live. Because as humans, we need social interactions, we need to interact with other people um for our health, is really for your health. Um, our bodies need that, that social interaction. And when you go into um being more isolated into yourself, that impacts your mental health in a not so good way. So I think there is a balance with that.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

What is your go-to alone space?

SPEAKER_04 50:08

What is my in our house?

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Yeah, house or wherever. Like you you when you get there, you sit in it for me because it's like it's just peace.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

I don't know. It just depends on what my mystery is. Is it tread meals?

SPEAKER_02 50:26

Is it you know, long run? Is it you know, on your drive?

SPEAKER_04 50:31

Yeah, so it might be my drive because sometimes on my I usually try to do my phone calls on my drive home because typically once I walk in the house, I don't want to talk to I don't want any phone calls. Um, so most of the time if I'm doing phone calls, I do it from work to wherever I'm going to. Um, because I don't know. I've gotten to where I don't want to talk on the phone. And I used to talk on the phone, I feel like more, but now I've I've like feeling like once I get in the hands.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

She's messing up your Uno time.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

No, it's not that. I just don't really, I don't know. And I'm it is that's not anything new. Like it's been for a year or so that my phone calls happen from work to home. And then if I called you on my way to work from work and you didn't answer, but then as soon as I step in the house and you call, you had to wait till the next day coming home from work. We'll try again. Um, is what is what I'll do. And then some days, um, depending on how I felt that day, if I'm riding in the car, I won't have anything gone. No music, no nothing. I just sit with my thoughts. Um, and I enjoy that because I feel like that's when some of my discernment and thoughts come through that I need to kind of pay attention to.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

So um so how do you battle that and the road rage? Like this is a real So yeah, this is true.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

I will say on when I'm on purpose, like take driving with no noise, and I just need I like I feel like I need calm. I don't really I don't You don't notice it. I don't notice it and I don't really um Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. So on those when I'm just seeking calm.

unknown 52:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:24

What's what's it makes perfect sense?

SPEAKER_02 52:26

It's a disconnect from that's what I say when things are too loud. When things get too loud, it's like uh it's a start off, you know. Um knee-jerk reaction. But when you're quiet, it's different, you know. So that's why I really wanted to know, because you say you don't, you kind of want peace, but then I know because I'll be on the phone with you, like, oh, what are you doing? What you stopping the break, you know? And like, you ain't helping your peace. That's why I wanted to know.

SPEAKER_04 52:53

Yeah, that's it that but at that point I'm not looking for peace. If I if I'm talking on the phone, I'm not looking for peace.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Which is peace.

SPEAKER_04 53:02

Yeah, I'm not. What is your place of uh solitude?

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Probably like meditation or the toilet.

SPEAKER_04 53:10

I was gonna I knew it was a toilet.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

But a lot of times I don't even be you in the bathroom. I'd be trying to.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

I think I knew my stomach been messed up for years since I've been a little boy.

SPEAKER_04 53:20

I think another one for me would be the shower. Um, because sometimes I'm like, Lord, let me get out this shower.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Cause I'm just Oh, after you after 20 minutes. Yes. Yeah, about the same. Let me get out this shower. After about 20 minutes to be in this show.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

Because I'll just be in it, I'm really like lost in my thoughts in the shower. So um, yeah, I would say the shower is one too.

SPEAKER_02 53:45

Yeah. Um but I d I do, I will say, um meditation. Um sometimes, like I said, yes, I definitely can drive with no music. Or I can I can also have music and be in total peace. It's I don't even hear the music. I don't I couldn't tell you what song was on or anything, but I could be zoned out like in a room just chilling. Um but the the bathroom is probably probably healthy be sitting on the toilet that long.

SPEAKER_04 54:25

No, because they just said on the Ricky Smiley show, it gives you hemorrhoids.

SPEAKER_02 54:27

Oh, well it might be what happened when I was a little boy.

SPEAKER_04 54:30

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

Yep. But that's what but for real, like a lot of times that's the only that's why I like, you know, I don't don't talk to me when I'm on the toilet. Not even don't even ask me a yes or no question. I might be rude, but hey.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Yeah, he might be, because after you've been in there for 45 minutes, folks got to get tissue.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

And we got well, how many bathrooms we got? But some folks don't want to go all the way downstairs. So I'll just, you know. You don't bother nobody when they're on the in the pot.

SPEAKER_04 54:59

Goodness. 45 minutes, I'm thinking he's got to be done.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

Yep. Do do it. But then probably the second one's on its own.

SPEAKER_04 55:08

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_02 55:11

All right, let's uh go ahead and speed it up so we can get out of this can. I still got a pack.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

And um, yeah, we've been on almost an hour.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

I gotta shave and then debate if I'm gonna I just don't want to take no Uber.

SPEAKER_04 55:24

Did you want to get to Believe the Sister?

SPEAKER_02 55:25

I don't want to take no Uber. I want to drive. All right, um Okay, I could say this story for next week, and then we can get to my guy right here. Cause I got two two Believe It Sisters, I guess, next week.

unknown 55:38

Okay.

Viral Crime Story And Dark Humor

SPEAKER_02 55:38

All right, so let's jump to this one. Y'all been hearing about that crazy dude, uh, the the uh quadriplegia, right? That killed that guy.

SPEAKER_04 55:46

I have not heard about him.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

You not heard about him? So he's a former pro athlete. You know what a quadriplegia is, right?

SPEAKER_04 55:57

He don't have arms or legs? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

So meanwhile, you're talking about the lady with the nubs. Yeah. So he killed somebody, shot him. Shot, shot the shot the dude, shot his friend.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Is he in the wheelchair or like he probably he's probably in a motor scooter?

SPEAKER_02 56:14

Mm-mm. They ain't never showed him in nothing like that.

SPEAKER_04 56:17

So what is he in?

SPEAKER_02 56:18

Just scooting around the little things on the little pieces, the little hip bones.

SPEAKER_04 56:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

His little pelvic bone just sliding on the phone.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Well, if he's an athlete, maybe he's fast.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

And then he he'll he's a professional cornhole athlete. Like he's um, and then they got videos on him now shooting guns and stuff. So his friend is not was well, and now he's dead. He was dating his ex-girlfriend.

SPEAKER_04 56:45

The paraplegic.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

So Am I saying that right?

SPEAKER_02 56:48

Yeah, paraplegic.

SPEAKER_04 56:50

Paraplegic.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Yeah, so uh he they were driving in the car.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

They said he got into an argument. He said it was self-defense, but the people in the car and sitting in the back seat said he did it on purpose.

SPEAKER_04 57:03

So the paraplegic paraplegic was in the car with his friend.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

And shot him. Said they were arguing. So he took his gun, shot him, killed him. But he told everybody it was self-defense.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

And the he he asked the friends, hey, help me get him out of the car. They said, uh-uh. So when they stopped, he stopped at a red light, they got out of the car.

SPEAKER_04 57:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

The friends in the back got out of the car.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

So he turned on them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

They got out of the car.

SPEAKER_04 57:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

So they found, then they told the police what happened, and they found him the next day. The paraplegic, they found him the next day and arrested him. So the body, he had taken the body and dumped it somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 57:53

Okay, so the friend must have been driving. That's why he couldn't do anything.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

That's why I didn't say nothing. Because it was the paraplegic that was driving.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

So he's driving.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

No, not like that. Yeah, he probably driving like that.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

He's driving.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

And then put that wound on right here. And click that gun.

SPEAKER_04 58:14

Oh, yeah, well, I forgot.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

And it was like a pistol. Because he got like a piece of that.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

Like that chicken wing.

SPEAKER_02 58:20

You know how when you take that little photo.

SPEAKER_04 58:21

Oh, yeah. So he took that.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Yeah, he just got flats. No, like, well, no, because the flats would be here. So he just got like the thing.

SPEAKER_04 58:28

They gotta learn how to work those nuts because they gotta use them to get dressed and eat and do all the things.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

He got a drum. The end, the end of the drum.

SPEAKER_04 58:35

Listen, he knows how to use it because he is a cornhole champion.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Yeah. And he throw that thing on that cornhole. So he knows how to use it. He killed his friend.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

Man.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

And then so then they got now, they got videos on YouTube and stuff surfacing about him like climbing up a tree. He got climbed up a tree. Yeah. Like at a deer stand. Yeah, I believe it. He can do it. And he got this, and then he got the gun like wrapped around it. He like hula hoop the gun like this. The strap. Hula hoop it and then get it. Hula hoop it down. And then the strap go and he climbed back down the stairs. The tree. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:12

What did he shoot?

SPEAKER_02 59:14

He shoot like an AR, he'll shoot a pistol.

SPEAKER_04 59:16

What is he? He's just at a target or what is the other tree shooting?

SPEAKER_02 59:21

He was hunting, but he was showing his friend, like, watch out fast. He drunk a beer, then went up there. Then there's another video I just saw the other day. He did like a headstand.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

And then while in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

He did a headstand. And I want to say he did cocaine upside down.

SPEAKER_04 59:42

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Snorted cocaine. And then got went to the window. To the window and then shot out the window.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

He had lost his mind.

SPEAKER_02 59:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

So for me, let me tell you something. If I had a friend there was a paraplegic and he was a cornhole champ, but then all of a sudden you start shooting guns and and doing uh cocaine um upside down, that would tell me, listen, he lost his mind. I would not even want to be around him. He just seemed very um irrational.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

Not put together.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

He was missing some parts.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

Yes, he just, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

Seemed like his brain was trying to leave him next.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

He's uh because his arms and and legs left him, and so now like his brain was trying to leave him.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

Yeah, he um but they say man, when you don't have nothing to stand for, you're really no risk at all. So I think that's what it was really was, you know. He was out there, and then like he but see when he goes to court, he can't even go to court and testify. Oh god, because you you're a paraplegic, and then you can't say, so Mr. Paraplegic, what were you doing out with your friends? Oh, we were just out kicking it. You're a liar. You know what I'm saying? He can't even do that. He can't he can't, and he can't say, well, he was dating my girl, you know. Mr. Paraplegic, why'd you shoot him? Well, he was dating my girl, so I had to stand up for what I believe in. Nope.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:14

You can go to hell over there by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

And then he'll never be able to, like, for when he's up for parole, he can't go for parole and be like, Well, yes, Your Honor, I think I'm ready now. I'm I'm gonna change man, I'm gonna put my best foot forward. And you know, it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

It's so crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:34

Well, guess what?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

But she was the one that left him. Yeah, she walked out of his life. But he couldn't because he couldn't. So that's that's a tough situation.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:44

That is tough.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

That's a tough situation.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:47

I mean Paul. Yeah, poor friend.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

Yeah, he's like, get a hold of yourself, dude. It's like I can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

You know? So and it's terrible.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:00

It is terrible, but guess what?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:04

Believe it, sister.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Believe it, sister.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:11

Because this time we got two noobs.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:13

Four nobs.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

Four.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Yeah. And I'm talking about they like real, they like right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

We got four noobs.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

Four nubs. So his little balls.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:24

Oh no, child. He ain't got longs.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

Callus balls.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:27

No, his balls ain't that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Callus balls.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:30

I think the that I think the Lord would give you short ones if you.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

So the nub balls too? Yeah. Like when you like when you eat uh uh what's the other thing? Like uh what's the little the thing, the movie candy that we like in the red and the box is yellow, but it's red on the outside. The sugar babies.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:53

Sugar babies or raisinets.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:55

No, not the raisinets, but like or like a milk dub when sometimes, you know, milk dub is supposed to be augmented, but you get the form one that's real, shrinked up. So that's what it is. So it nub nub nuts.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:04

Nub nuts.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Oh, nub nuts. And guys shrinked up. Shrink nub nuts.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:08

He's going to jail.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:10

I mean prison. Because he didn't kill somebody.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:13

They had to handcuff him with a uh with a uh weightlifting belt. That's what they use. They use a weightlifting belt to handcuff him.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:23

They yeah, well, what did they do with him?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

They couldn't say put your hands up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:27

They should just put him in a potato sack.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

Yeah. Put your hands up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:31

They should put him in a potato sack and then tie a little string around a neck part and just be his little neck in a potato sack, he'd be like this. And they just take one care.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

Carry him like a little uh like a purse.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:42

Yeah. Just like a little tote.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Like a little tote bag.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:46

Little potato tote.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:47

Mm-hmm. Oh, cornhole tote.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:49

Oh, cornhole tote self.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:51

Mm-mm-mm.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:52

Mm-mm-mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

Well, that's how I believe it's Sister for the Week. Um, all right, side eye.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:59

I'm side-eye myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:01

Okay.

Side Eyes Gratitude And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_04 1:04:02

Because yesterday, this one said, Well, let's eat Chipotle. And so I order our Chipotle. At first, I ordered ours, and I was like, oh shoot, let me get Kahari something. So then I did another order for Kahari's food. So we go up to Chipotle, he we go through the little drive-thru and he's like, Yeah, it's for Cree Hair. He said, What's her name again? And he said, Cree. And she's like, I'm gonna have an order for y'all. And I look, I go, oh shoot. I ordered no, um, that's not the first, not yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's the second one. That's you dropped another word.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:36

So then I was like, oh shoot, I order from the Chipotle by my job. So then she's like, so you can call them, they'll refund you, and then just order here. I was like, okay, so I go and I'm like, okay, let me do the order. I do it real fast, pay for it. And I'm like, F-word. I did it again. So now I got three orders that are to the wrong Chipotle. And then I'm trying to call the Chipotle. They got everybody got an AI robot, something is trying to figure it out. And it was just frustrating me to no end. Finally, I did get the order right, picked it up. They did refund me for the three that weren't right, but I just, yesterday was tough, man. Yeah. So, anywho, I'm side-eye myself for a crazy Chipotle order day yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:37

Yeah, I'm just side eyeing all these dang um different quotes for the same kinds of systems. Well, actually, they ain't the same. No. One is one brand, and one is this brand, and one telling me this about the ace vac. Somebody telling me you need ducks, somebody telling me you don't need ducks. Somebody saying you need a whole overhaul system, somebody saying you don't. Somebody saying you need a single stage, somebody saying you don't need a single stage. Need to bypass, no bypass. So it's like, ah, I just want somebody to say, what of them fans that? Just and just hold fans around. I just it's that's that's like my side. I was like, what's the consistency?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

Um yeah, it's like nobody. Yeah. Is there anybody that it's just gonna be honest and integrity?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

Because out of five people, like nobody said the same equipment. Nobody. Everybody, well, I say, well, one person said the same equipment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not the same for the same price. No. Everything was different.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:34

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

I'm talking about nobody came with the exact same thing. This is what we need to do. Yeah, because everybody's being creative in what they could do to repair what we need repairing. So that's my side eye. And then it's like, oh, you can pay with um for$100 for$6,000.$100 a month. Or you could do zero interest for$12,000 a month. Yeah. You're like, man, get out of here. So crazy. So yeah, it's it's ridiculous. So that's my side eye. Um, what are you grateful for?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:11

Um, let's see. I'm grateful for not having to start with my clients until 11 tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

That's good stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

Um, so I'm grateful for a late start tomorrow because everybody knows, as you know, I love a late start. So I get a late start Saturday and Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

That's good.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:35

So I'm grateful for a late start.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:37

Oh, well, I definitely can take the card in and go to the airport.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:41

Well, you can. I'm just I'm just still a little nervous about drop. Hopefully you'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Oh, you'll be fine. She's fine. She's fine. You'll be fine. Um, I'm grateful for um the opportunities that I have, you know, going to LA, hopefully um doing better than I than I expect and better than they expect. Hey, chill out down there. You do it's like doing more than drop ice. Drop you. But anyway, I'm grateful for the opportunities. You know? I am. I am. Yes. And how many hours I got? It'll probably be 12 o'clock by the time I get all right. Um, what are you looking forward to?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:33

Well, May is my month.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

May is an expensive month.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:38

Yes, and it's gonna be extra expensive because we haven't graduated May as well. So I'm looking forward to May because it's my birthday, May 3rd.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Your birthday, then Mother's Day's Day for you, mother-in-law, mama, and then big dog graduation.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:55

Yeah, so I'm looking forward to May. It's gonna be a month of celebrations.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:59

I'm gonna have to give me an OnlyFans account showing something.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:03

It's not that serious. We're not gonna go be spending a lot for Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:08

But if I get an OnlyFans account, we'll be able to spend a little more.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:12

I don't know if your money's gonna come in too soon enough. Um, but we don't have to go all over and beyond. Think about what you want to do now so that you don't have to run when you do last-minute shopping, you end up spending more because you're like, I don't know what they got.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:26

Oh, I always know. I always know.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:30

What about he don't always because one time for Mother's Day Well, not for the other people.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

I know what I'm doing for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:39

I'm talking about for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:39

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:40

One time for Mother's Day, I got a bag of just britches. Just pants, no shirts, a variety. I don't know what happened. Why I got pants of just britches.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

So last time you bought me some underwear, you bought me some t-shirts too. But the thing that's all that's all that doesn't match.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:08

Okay, so that's fine. When you buy somebody. So, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

No, so the next time I buy you something, don't ever wear it with nothing else.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:17

That's not what I'm saying. The britches that were chosen, I did not have, but you thought that I had things, but I did not have things that went, so I had to go and buy things to go with the things.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:34

I I knew you had things that go with it, because what I think matches, she may not. I'm the fashionista. Well, so I thought it would work.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:44

He never did show me that would work.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

That still did not give proof that I didn't think before time.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

Just because I had a bag of uh pants. That's that is so like not valid.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:05

That's like you could you could get a matching outfit last minute. Am I right?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:11

Oh, that's true. Okay, so that's true, you could.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:14

Yeah. The one thing I do do is I think about this month ahead of time. But hey, maybe I'll stop. We'll see. So what am I looking forward to? I don't even know now. I might as well don't don't look forward to nothing. Just wait till today, be spontaneous.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:37

Lord have mercy.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

And go there, like you know, like she she's treating her gifts like crystals. You know, crystals, you get a bag of burgers, she's talking about a bag of bridges. I got you. I'm a crystal guy this time, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:48

Okay, let's just be honest though. Are have there have there been times where you did shop last minute?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:04

Yeah, but not recently.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

Not get it out of the way like rush it, but I I kind of know what I want going in. And sometimes I I like what for example, like when you get your like when I would give gift of your bags, I used to always try to get them way ahead of the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:27

Yeah, I know those are way in advance.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

Way ahead of in in advance. Yeah. Um your clothes, I already have an idea of what I'm trying to get.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:37

And um like never I I tr I try to never do. Of course, like well, no, neah it's never the day of. Always have your stuff at least, you know, set up. I try to do at least two, three days before like the pickup, but I know what I'm getting. So gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:58

Yes. I enjoy all of my gifts. But I will I did the bag of britches. I was like, oh the bag of britches.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:07

But so next time, y'all, I expect to have if I get some socks, I need some shoes too. Cause they go together. If I get some draws, I better get me some t-shirts.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

But what if you asked for uh you ask for socks. You ask for socks. And you ask for underwear. Still give me that matching part. And you asked for underwear.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:30

Still give me that matching part.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

I'm giving you what you said you want. Because you'll say you've never said you've never said you want the matching part.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

You say, ooh, I need some pants. And then so I hear little things like that. I don't never hear say, I need some pants, but gotta have a shirt to go with it. I'll never hear that part. And see how she's laughing, so y'all know I'm telling the truth. So, but it's all good though. It's all good.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:54

I love my gifts and how thoughtful you.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

Now we you see why your pops wear, huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:01

No, I don't act at all like how LMA acts at all.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:04

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That's why Curtis said was get at your damn self.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

No, no, I know, no, no, literally nothing like that. And I'm you always do think of, I know you think about me on my birthday, because even at work, they said, Kree, because we normally celebrate our birthdays at work. Um, and we haven't, we try to celebrate it before or the day of the person's birthday. My birthday lands on a Sunday. So the time for me to celebrate it before um Sarah's gonna be away. And so they're like, Kree, do you want to celebrate it without Sarah? Or we can celebrate it, you know, on the sixth. And I was like, well, I'd like for us all being together. I said, we could celebrate on the sixth. I go, are you sure? I go, yes. I said, I'm sure. I said, I might not be sure if I thought nobody was gonna celebrate me at home. I go, but I'm always well celebrated at home, so we can wait till the sixth for work. That is exactly what I said.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:59

Well, hey, you might want to tell them. You call them back.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:02

Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna be well celebrated.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:06

We'll see. I better be. We'll see.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

If I'm not, y'all will hear about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:11

Oh, I'm gonna do that anyway. That's just how I am.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

So we're gonna get out of here. I gotta uh fold my clothes up, pack my bag, shave, take a shower.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:27

Goodness gracious, he's such a last minute.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:30

And get up out. You I'm gonna take a shower last minute. Well, you want me to take a shower when I first got home?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:35

No, I'm not talking about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:38

I had to wash clothes. I know. So this ain't last minute. Last minute will be gonna get up in the morning and do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:46

You could be last minute left.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

That plane's gonna leave without you.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

No, I'm gonna be there on time. I'm gonna be on time.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:55

All right then.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:56

Ladies and gentlemen, thank y'all for rocking with us.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:58

What are you looking forward to?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:00

Oh, I I said nothing, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

Oh, you better say something.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:04

Somebody over there talking crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:06

What are you looking forward to?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

I'm looking forward to getting me some Jolly Bee's chicken.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:11

In Cali. It's not one close by the hotel I'm staying in, so.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:15

You gotta come back.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:16

But I gotta drive, yeah. I gotta pick up the car from the um rental car.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

I hope it's as good as when you had it before.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:22

Yeah. Um, and that's the only thing I was looking forward to eating.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:26

Jolly Bee?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:26

Yeah, because I think with the way my I don't really know my schedule schedule.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:31

Um, I said it would be good. Like if I didn't have much to do tomorrow, I could go stop at what's name, get me some breakfast. At Jestin's place, the serving spoon.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

I said it'd be good to go to the servant spoon and get some breakfast, but um I know they we probably on a tight schedule.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:46

So if I went back, I would go to Issa Rae's coffee shop.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

I might that I might get me some coffee on the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

That peanut butter toast, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

Oh no, not that.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:57

Ooh, I might pull over there.

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I might I might pull up at Easter Ray's thing and get some coffee.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:02

Yeah. That coffee and that peanut butter toast, I would totally get that again.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

Yeah. So that's it for me, man. Um ladies and gentlemen, thank y'all for everything you've done. Uh, continue to like, comment, and subscribe. Don't forget to uh comment on um if you said engine engine number nine, all that kind of stuff. And uh if you're just picking up part of the episode, go back and watch it. It's a great one. It's this one. So just you probably just like, oh, there they are. Go find it. But this is Kefla.

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And this is Kareem.

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And we are the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.

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Good night.

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Peace. Bye.

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